Kip Thorne - Does Physical Reality Go Beyond?
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
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Kip Thorne.....The best !
What a great interview (Good questions from the interviewer too) - Many thanks.
Respect for Kip Thorne, the co-founder of the LIGO Project that proved the existence of gravitational waves and went so far as to estimate that they were produced by the merging of two black holes of 36 and 29 solar masses respectively. The end product was a spinning 62-solar-mass black hole.
+Kostas Ioannou
Incredible. Warped space- time to gravity to quantum gravity to strings.
@Enter the Bragn’ what do you believe?
It lost 3 solar masses as energy output in the merger?! Jesus christ. That's is jaw dropping.
@@onbored9627 Indeed.
I'd like to have a beer with these two and listen.
I'd like to have magic mushrooms with Kip and record the audio.
Aeeeh
Be sure to turn down the volume after watching this video unless you want to be blasted.
thank you
@david wyn-jones
because adjusting the volume is such a tedious task
This is amazingly clear.
Kip needs a week up a mountain with the worlds leading physicists & many psychedelic substances
Excellent, really interesting discussion about physics and science.
General relativity is elegant. E=MC^2 is beautiful.
For me elegance represents 'optimised simplicity'. Let's say you draw a circle on wall, it's bumpy and in general represents the idea of a circle. Now you get a compass and with ease you draw a circle which has no flaws or bumps. This circle would be defined as the more elegant circle it geometrically sound and harmonies ergo elegant.
Newton discovered these laws. Laws were always there. Important point to keep in mind. Reality exists. We just discover it in bits as we progress forward in life. The question is can we find reality as a whole??
I am not being pedantic here, but I think that, although we call them laws, they're basically theories. And all scientific theories are only accepted until they're not, when some counterexample is found, and a better theory is needed. In this sense, one can't really say they are discovered. One can discover oxygen, for example, but not laws/theories.
One good example is Newton's law of universal gravitation which is now superseded by general relativity.
Physics is a language and all languages are as good as they are accurate.
Good little vid!
- When you look at the future what opportunities do you see ?
- I see flat-screen monitors everywhere ...
I can't believe jeff goldblum got to interview this guy!
5:07 Yes, very simple indeed.
Character of extra dimension of Planck's black hole for initial state of proton is when it increase it's volume(A) to proton scale , increasing it's potential energy as spring of string, produce strong force about 10^29 time stronger than gravity(g=6.67*10^-11) by Hawking's holographic black hole S=kA/(2l)^2, S proportional to R^2 for F=gmM/R^2 which still work at quantum scale, it balance all gravity force from all proton in universe by 10^(29+27) equal to 10^(85-29), those Russian nesting doll should stop at Planck's size l=10^-35.
But why denigrate Philosophy?? Philosophy is simply the love of thinking, and runs the whole gamut of thought including theoretical physics!!!
JAIME TAN it’s interesting. But it tends to speculate on things that can’t be proven or disproven. We can speculate on anything, and call it philosophy. What does that have to do with science? We. We’d to set up something that can either be built up or broken down. Philosophical concepts have no real consequences. Look at Zeno/s paradox. We learn it in school, we hear it on You Tube channels, and it’s interesting, but really it has nothing to do with reality. It’s a philosophical concept that we can argue about forever.
I think elegance is the universality of the simplest (i.e. least moving parts) that applies to the most things. e.g. a reduced fraction seems to speak for all other fractions of the same value with different integers while an unreduced fraction seems only to speak for itself. I could write a textbooks full of experiments that approximate the acceleration of objects toward the Earth or I could have a single equation.
Elegance is getting closer and closer to principle. Everything else (theories, equations, etc.) seem to be approximations of a principle. In another video, this principle was referred to as brute fact(s). I think principle is a better term.
By one or more principles, the Universe should behave as X. The principle(s) is/are attempted to be reverse engineered by the observation of the products of the principle, and we get contradictory approximations of the principle(s). Kuhn had suggested that if the Universe (or existence itself) had only one principle, it would be God, and that atheists might necessarily believe in multiple principles (or brute facts, as he put it). I just think it's a very interesting way to think about a very interesting thing.
Mr Throne knows a hell lot of a deep stuff.
Holy crap I learned and put a lot together from this! Damn I love being a moron and listening to genius.
What a great guy!!.. Friends, if you dont love these two guys, see your cardiologist because there is no sign of your heart !!
The elegance then grasps at the quality of how easy it is to know and intuit and think about and work with these things mentally. It’s a quality of the epistemological type. I beleive that when a great sage directly perceived reality they therefor also experience the same elegance in their perception (probably much much greater ... but same idea... ie that it relates to the ease of knowing. Eg in the equation example.. it must be in the ease of ‘reading’ the equation.
Understanding the interactions of dark matter and dark energy is the key to understanding the resulting warped space time.. the quantum fields interacting actually results in added local space.. but the dark matter holds objects in place for the most part. Not completely tho. E=mc2 sort of suggests this structure. E = matter(mass) x c2 the c2 is there because both the fields of dark matter and dark energy move relative to eachother at c in both directions.. so you multiply the mass x c x c.. what is mass tho really? It's the exhausted space which warps the local space, and in actuality all space to a diminishing degree.. so let's make sure we are accounting for all the space.. you have dm going at c.. you have de going at c.. then you have the resulting grounded space which creates mass as it leaks into our 3d space we ordinarily consider which drives the cosmological constant and entropy.
The cosmological constant isn't constant tho.. it depends on the local mass and gravity. Basically its gravity that is expanding the universe. Everything's locked in equilibrium.
I’m uncomfortable with how long the blur persists at the beginning of the video.
Too long
Kip could lead the local chapter of Hell's Angels.
If gravity quantum, could gravity be transmitted non-locally in the way Newton conceived it, while containing the fabric of space-time as Einstein thought of it? Maybe time is a quantum fabric for space that can transmit gravity non-locally?
The title of this video should be "Problems with the law of gravity."
I think i also have to start aaaeeiing if i want to be a genius
He keeps giving it away... the future is... aaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiii.......
LMAO!
Every time he days aaaaii you habe to drink 😅👍
I like him.. aaeehh..
Watching actually intelligent people talk makes one feel a bit insignificant. Its cool we get to peek into their findings tho.
I dig the "ah-ight" tick.......Kip is thE man.
Eeeh, aaaeeeh, aaaeeeeh, eeeah.
0:51 “…centrifugal force ‘balancing’ the gravitational force…”
I don’t get it; isn’t the gravitational pull “acting as” the centrifugal force in the case of the Moon and the Earth?! What did he mean by that I’m so confused 😅🤦🏻♂️
I can almost understand what this guy is talking about.
I love listening to this guy just to hear his studder. Aaauua
I just love the "aeeeehhhhhhhhh" .... :-)
+StiloNautica You think it's intentional, a quirk, or a disease?
Could'nt say..i think its like a tick
I thought they were all in my head
@@arby6010 possible tourettes
I love it too. But, seriously I think it's his way of dealing with a speech impediment. To some people this can be devastating. Just read some of the comments on here. Imagine a life of that. That is why I'm amazed Kip has not allowed it to diminish his ability to contribute in any way.
Could you imagine watching Deepak Chopra for 12:04....no, me neither.
Interesting Thorne ideas, as always. Audio sucks.
There can be no simultaneity thought Einstein, but today we have entanglement showing it can happen so perhaps the force idea can be restored somehow ? The idea that there is no force but warped space works well no doubt but still seems like a kind of trick because how can the vacuum be bend? (today we know it's not nothingness but a see of virtual particles which is still no "aether". It's like that answer to the wave nature of light where you can't ask what is waving. If they talk about fields, the answer to what the field is made off, seems to be that there is no " very thin stuff " out there but it's only a way to describe varying values . It's, to say the least, confusing. In Star Trek, they mention often "space time" or "coördinates" but even Einstein would have raised eyebrows since there is no nice 3D grid out there. I even wonder if there is one straight line out there that is not bended by some mass in the vicinity.
@John Phillips Yes, I know even gravity can't spread faster than light and that's why they look out for gravity waves now. But I have trouble with understanding that intuitively. It's easier to think gravitation as a force that doesn't "travel" but is " just there" , permeating space, binding everything together without any time delay. But agreed that this easy picture is abandoned today.
We UNDERSTAND Quantum theory?! We have a mathematical model that seems to work pretty well, but no one really knows why ("Shut up and calculate!").
I would like a beer.
If we know all that’s going on, then please tell me where 99% of the matter of the universe that is ‘missing’ is?
applications of math/physics in seeking a model of covid-19 virus and treatment & vaccine
i wonder why they have seemingly ancient software running on CRT displays?? must have been written by some genius coder decades ago and he died or something..
+Alexander Bollbach I guess it's funded by the government. It won't be replaced/upgraded/improved unless absolutely necessary. It's easy and cheap to hire a couple of students to fix problems with the current setup and long-winded and difficult to get funding for new tech.
Another common problem is that you have old measuring hardware. It works just fine but with old slots/ports. Contracting a company to upgrade a single such card to work with more modern hardware can easily cost as much as a decent car. So you just keep the old PCs and software around until they break.
+Alexander Bollbach Maybe they need color accuracy and change of resolution without losing sharpness. There are some advantages CRT monitors still have over LCD. Maybe they needed a sqare resolution type monitor and couldn't get it as an LCD due to the popularity of widescreens out there. Who knows, LOL. I also wondered about that "heavyweight" there in-between!
+Alexander Bollbach Or they need it to demonstrate Gravity in real physics. Haha
All of the above might be partially right, but essentially you won't get errors in fine simulations that need to never have deviations when running, this is easier achieved on simple computers. You could literally get data warped by an ad in windows 10. If you need something to be accurate down to 12 decimal places across a huge amount of iterations, you need the least noise as possible. Also they need to not crash ever
Pretty sure that's some old labview displays. My guess is it's for controlling/viewing some very expensive experimental equipment, it does what it needs to do, and there's no reason to upgrade. Computers are tools.
It seems to me that too many physicists poo-poo philosophy out of hand. What they fail to realize is that the categories they use to frame the universe are not objective, and this is important. Perhaps a perusal of Kant would inspire physicists to see the ephemeral nature of our categories and spur them on to even greater insights.
You listen to Kip Thorne long enough and he’ll subliminally and somewhat cryptically spells out the entire alphabet during his discourse. The adult version of Sesame Street! But all kidding aside, I applaud his ability to maneuver around and overcome his speech impediment.
That ain’t no speech impediment. That’s what we hear when he lowers his mental acuity down to our level so that we may understand what he is saying.
Kip "Aye" Thorne :D
OMG! LOL!
So Einstein explained gravity. Amazing, why didn't we make flying saucer since then ?
They have, the tr3b aerora
Because it takes so much more than just understanding gravity. It‘s like you would ask why Ørsted and Maxwell didn‘t invent microprocessors.
General relativity is elegent, Quantum mechanics is not beautiful as of yet. I am so glad to hear someone say the same thing as i think.
QM is at a much deeper, more fundamental level. It is going to take a lot of time to really understand it.
I hope we are around for some these natural truths to be rediscovered. In my youngish life I have not yet experienced a ground-breaking discovery.
Recently, mathematics of quantum computing provided a new insight into the elegance of quantum mechanics, while Feynman's quantum field theory will soon lead us to discover how this field simulates consciousness and intelligent design, fine tuning creation of life and human consciousness, with perfection and with probability one. !!!
Kip Thorne: "Knock Knock!"
Interviewer: "Who is it?"
Kip Thorne: "Aaaaahhheeee"
Interviewer: "Aaaaahhheee who?"
Kip Thorne: "Aaaaahhheee aaaaahhheee!"
Omg you made me laugh so hard
😂😂😂🤣
A career and life built upon a misperception can earn you a Nobel Prize.
you can easily see the potential there in kip... motorcycle leather jacket, a huge swastica tattoo on the back of his head... something must of gone wrong when he was a child
Prof. Thorn, I am as 99,9 % of human beings, a huge fan of and admirerer of you and your work. But...:
As you know, a good theory must be able to fail on the experimentel proof. Or must, at least be able to make some predictions.
Non of both the string theory has ever done. And it is rediculasly far away to get in that experementel high-energy-range to confirm stringes or all the, at least, 7 aditional 7 dimentions.
String theory is like a mermaid: She sings to you and, if you follow her, you're doomed.
Such as: "It is too nice to fail!"
Great regards and deapest respect, Prof. Thorn
Christian Vulpescu
For the life of me I don't understand how a theory can be "elegant". I don't want a theory to be "elegant", I'd rather a theory be. . . er. . . correct. A ballerina can be "elegant", but I really don't care what a theory looks like, as long as it makes sense.
Kip's explanations - for me - sound like the audial representation of a Pakapoo ticket.
If you're not Australian you might want to look that one up. . .
james west general and correct theories are usually elegant.
aeeeeee...
aeeeehhhhhhhhh
aggatthaaa
+cyclotane stfu and pay respect
Premed1981 here. aeehhhhaehhhhhh space warp blabla aeeeehhhhhhhhhh bingo!
+cyclotane good one at 5:29
+cyclotane great one at 9:17
Aaaaiiiiiii???
Aaaaaaiiii 😅😅😅
Eh, eh....Canadian?
Is Kip Canadian? Eh eh eh.
the truth of the universe is, AHHHH TEH EHHHH
Kip Thorne is an android. The malfunctioning language module gives it away.
If that's true then we need more androids.
shrimpflea Indeed
Elon Musk needs to update Kip's firmware. Aaaaeehhhhhh.....aeehh..
he remind me of forrest guump..!
I can't listen to Kip Thorne with his irritating and distracting speech impediment. He can easily cure that with training or working with a speech therapist. It's about having mental discipline. He probably thinks he's so high and might in the physics field he doesn't need to change.
Enough of your ignorance
How can he embrace stringtheory nonsense? Very disappointing!