Kip Thorne - What is Space-Time?
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How could space and time be literally the same thing? How would spacetime change our understanding of space and time?
congrats to Prof Kip Thorne for winning Nobel prize in Physics - the most prestigious even in Nobel prize categories
@kevin p what, why ?
@kevin p If you ask economists, the most highly self-regarding group in world history
Kip has deserved it for years. But the Nobel people want a specific, measurable thing. Einstein did NOT win his Nobel for Special or General Relativity, He won it for the explaining the photoelectric effect.
Don’t tell the geologists
@@dougmcelroy3780 _"But the Nobel people want a specific, measurable thing. "_
Well they're not measuring my thing. I don't care how much Nobel Laureates win .... 10 MILLION KRONAS ??!! unzips pants
Congratulations to kip thorns for nobel prize
Comes with a free bucket of KFC
Only 60 seconds in & i'm like wow: Space & time are personal. What you see as space, I may see as space & time. Fascinating!
I was mind blown and loved the movie Interstellar.
+Abel Bekele His guidance on the visibility of a wormhole and the appearance of a huge black hole from the outside are groundbreaking in science fiction. "Contact" tried to do it and was better than most, scientifically, but "Interstellar" did a great job in using real physics to create an impressive scene in the movie.
Now, I'm still intrigued by the "tesseract" which, to me, was revealed in Madeline L'Engle's "A Wrinkle In Time".
Abel Bekele Jack Sarfatti How to explain the time losses and disappearances in the “Lake Michigan Triangle” see proof? Any theories anyone? ua-cam.com/video/FAKpBtZmRr0v/v-deo.htmlany ideas.? See video?? Xx
I love when he explains things so simply and easy to comprehend
Every time I hear Professor Thorne or read his work, my mind is blown.
Dear Mr. Kuhn, First, thank you for “Closer to the Truth” my second favorite series of all time behind Mr. Sagans cosmos. Second, I thank you so much for all the amazing content that helps people like me get closer to the truth. No words can encompass the beauty of what’s being done here. Finally, thank you for introducing me to Mr. Thorne here through this video. I knew nothing about him when I first saw this. Now I have done more research and become a great fan of Mr. Thorne. May this beautiful precious cosmos lead us all to where we all began.
"You have a novel, you read it. The whole story is there, its in the book from beginning to end its all there. But you read it through you feel the flow, but its all there in front of you."
Sharif Matar what’s the name of the novel, please
Sharif M / So that's the proof that your brain creates the illusion of a pasage of something that in reality doesn't exist.
"Time" as a real material quantity doesn't exist because you can't fill a bucket with it.
Time is not a real dimension. It is just an artificial effect, an artificial non-existent effect invented by your brain when compare a change of material position.
You don't need "time" in order to explain the world.
Einstein, Keep Torn and many others out there like them are just the perfect examples of human idiots.
@@mikel4879 the idea of time is an idea, as you said. Though you are correct, you are also ignorant and blatantly misrepresenting what science veiws time as. in mathematics, in order to properly describe a system, and predict what that system will do, you must include time into your calculations to show real outcomes. time is an illusion, just like your entire material reality, because it's all made in your brain. in reality, your eyes take in quantized information, converts it, and presents you with this world. if you want to argue semantics, then prove anything you know actually exists. youll soon enough realize the only thing you can prove is that you exist enough to experience and comprehend that experience. you experience time, I assume, therefore, one could use said experience to rationalize, and in a universally understandable way, our existence and beyond. if time is a illusion, then perhaps you could convince it to loosen it's grip on our existence.
Jared O / You're talking stupidities exactly like the scientists you're referring to.
The "eyes" take in the instant information, channel it to the material brain, and the material brain "store" it. The "past" that you remember doesn't exist anymore and the "future" is just an illusion concocted by the same material brain functions.
All the universal material reality exists only as an instant process, as deep as it can exists as an infinitesimal local material iteration.
The rest of it are just theoretical interpretations done by a "biological" or artificial brain-like structure that has the specific material functions.
Etc, etc.
You're all square heads talking nonsense that's coming out straight from your arses because your brains are impotent.
@@mikel4879 however you want to split it to suit your own explanation is fine. truth is you still experience time. like I said if time doesn't exist, tell that to the reaper.
I love Kip, such a humble genius.
I’m still amazed by people who can think at that level
I once knew a physicist that was working on the idea that time is our awareness of the expansion of space. He passed away before publishing anything. I didn't understand his explanations, but I remember him saying that Einsteins space time is incorrect. That in fact it's "expanding space time". Space and time are different sides of the same thing because space is expanding and creates "quantum holes" which must be filled. The holes being filled created by space expanding is what we feel as time because these "quantum holes" allow us to go from point A to point B in space, or some such craziness that I don't understand. I also remember him saying something about if space didn't expand we could not travel through it. It would be like a solid and there could be no motion, energy or time.
Oh my ,this person really speaks to my understanding and stimulating to my thoughts. It is interesting how a lot of space and space time conversations relate to my readings in learning Taoism and Zen Buddhism ,absolutely amazing it is. ...!
his aaeeeh is just the genius equivalent of "know what I'm sayin'
I'm re-watching this for the n-th time knowing what you said and it sounds much better now :D Actually I just understood this mixing property of spacetime. I can't believe it took so long...
i think it's got more of a "ya feel me?" vibe to it.
ASCENSiON1989
Does n-> infinity?
Reminds me of Ali G. Aiiii
I think it means “in other words”
Wonderfully explained with simple analogies in day to day life we experience 🙏🙏🙏
This guy (Kip Thorne) is a genius in explaining. there is lot of knowledge between the 'aaaaegh''s..I rewinded and listened again & again to clear. the idea of spacetime..really a genius.
I like him better when he was doing comedy with the silver wig.
For all those enquiring minds who cannot come to grips with the ' Constancy of Light for All Observers', Kip has just stated that with the Doppler Effect the frequency of light may be different for different observers, but the speed, as measured by those observers, will always be the same. This explanation together with the equation for light speed C = frequency X wavelength, clearly resolves this conundrum for all observers.
Kip Thorne..The brain behind movie Interstellar
Kip you are wonderful
wonderful. Love Kip Thorne
Informative discussion.
It's funny the amount of people watching a video on spacetime who can't over come the childish urge to make fun of someone's speech impediment.
+awkwardvlog haha well I managed to find the video interesting AND not overcome the urge to smile about his tic.
+nunya bidness wow, ur real funny guy
+awkwardvlog thank you for sticking up Frruuugfffppt for people Frruuugfffppt like me and Frruuugfffppt kip :)
+awkwardvlog Welcome to UA-cam.
+nunya bidness I understand physics quite well, I believe...I have taught QM and Relativity at the undergrad and grad levels. Prof. Thorne's insight s into time and space are spot on. WHo are you to question that?
a fantastic interviewer!
Everything is articulated and cemented in events of cause and effect that only I can perceive
Great video and interview! :D
wow -- I enjoyed this -- thank you for sharing
Zac6230 you got one?
Oh those are fancy foreign cigs to us -- don't mind if I do :)
I see time as the rate of change in space. Nothing more. Kip Thorne is one of my science heroes.
That is a brilliant man...such a beautiful mind.
Awesome video!
Kip Thorne: Knock knock
Robert : who's there?
Kip: aaaaeehhh
Robert : aaaaeehhh who?
Kip : aaaaeehhh aaaaeehhh
phahaha been a while since I just burst into laughter from a youtube comment. Well done!
I like the man but this was too funny to pass.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
brentbr00tal =)
You Sir have just won the Internet!
To all those making fun of his speech impediment, get a life!
+Terri Dente fucking A right.
I'm sorry aaeeh
Those of you obsessed with a minor flaw suffer froma much greater impediment....I choose to learn and bettermyself,rather than to remain ignorant and pityful.
ron leblanc its just humor man, doesn’t mean we dont know kip a grade A smarty pants
ron leblanc I bet your fun at parties
When I run fast and have a great pase. I can see things go slow but in reality they really going fast. It's a relaxation mode in the mind.
Thank you
I respect Kip Thorne and applaud his attempt to explain General Relativity and the concept of SpaceTime to an audience that has no background whatsoever in physics or the maths required to correctly grasp the subjects. I also respect and encourage anyone who is truly interested in the subjects to keep on going, watch and learn as much as you can - these are difficult subjects even for professionals in the field, so learn everywhere you can.
But dumbing-down these subjects and completely glossing over concepts that are required to actually begin to understand Spacetime and general relativity(and just as important - how we got to these concepts in the first place) does not do justice to these ideas - and it leaves people with a false understanding that always seems to get jumbled into a quasi-psuedo-spiritual/religious bullshit from the perceived "magic" of their misunderstanding. I guess thats life though, right? /rant
Brian Ashlocke I don't understand what you mean, the view of Kip Thorne and others such as Paul Davies is that Space Time is an absolute entity - They aren't merely metaphorically 'dumbing down' abstract mathematical concepts to reach out to a laymen audience it means exactly what it sounds like it means.
It goes all the way back to the debate between Newton and Leibnez as to whether space and time exist independently (Absolutist View) or just for the matter that resides within (Relationism)
My favorite internet comment of the year. Well said sir
Your comment reeks of elite-ism. UA-cam is not a college classroom. Dumbing down the content is how it becomes accessible to the masses. That's how interested, curious people are moved to seek truth. The hard truth.... CTT 🤔
How does this channel have so view views. These interviews are awesome.
So view views?? Wtf does that even _mean_ ?
@@88_TROUBLE_88 It means typo. Look it up.
@@josephbishara4791 why didn't you reply from the account that made the typo? Are you even the same person? If not, back up and mind your own business and if so then maybe you can explain why you haven't edited your comment from your alternate account to reflect the new information that you are claiming to be here representing..
@@88_TROUBLE_88 I'm not the same person. I was just trying to educate you since you're too stupid to recognise that it's a typo.
It seems that when one visualizes space time in conjunction with the future thinking of it as personal really does work well.
nice interview
There is no time there is now and memory
i'll admit i found the "aaaaeh"'s a bit funny at first, but you then start to realise that this brilliant man is suffering with an uncontrollable affliction. He deserves a bit more respect and is a man who deserves to be listened to. Then after another watching of this video, i started to find it funny again. I tried really hard not to laugh, and i was quite angry with myself.
I'd like to see a discussion of space-time in light of the growing number of voices disputing that time is actually a real thing, i.e., voices that say time is just a measure of change.
Sooo brilliant to watch - I actually understood some stuff that previously I just couldn't.
Many thanks !
A great mind is talking about space-time while some buffoons mock his speech impediment. I am really ashamed to see this.
Einstein:
"Put your hand on a hot stove for a minute, and it seems like an hour. Sit with a pretty girl for an hour, and it seems like a minute. That's relativity.”
Hummmm
It may seem funny, but in fact it is a very "natural" concept, if you think about it. :)
Don't burn your hand, Just wait for that beautiful girl .
Except that it's not. I doubt whether Einstein would have used such an analogy.
@@vinayseth1114 it's completely retarded. near certainly it's a brain dead internet meme people parrot to other npcs for likes, and einstein indeed never said it.
I'm no stranger to relativity. But is a great way to explain spacetime as a mixture of space and time; and the degree of mixture is the relative part.
Thanks. I have many videos to listen. ;)
Physics and spirituality are on their way to merge.
Einstein said he knew two things were infinite, one was the universe, the second was human stupidity, but he was not sure about the universe. The second is illustrated by many of the clueless comments here.
Jack Sarfatti How to explain the time losses and disappearances in the “Lake Michigan Triangle” see proof? Any theories anyone? ua-cam.com/video/FAKpBtZmRr0v/v-deo.htmlany ideas.? See video??
He knew they were stupid because they all swallowed his nonsense.
It’s also illustrated by the number of false quotes ascribed to Einstein... smh...
Good video. Philochrony is the theory that affirms that time is magnitive: objetive, imperceptible (intervals) and measurable (duration).
In my opinion, there are 2 method of how we look at time. One is the mechanical clock. The other is the relativity between 2 objects. If we use clock time as a reference, 1 second means 1 second, whether a person travels at the speed of light or not, the mechanical time will not be affected. so, when he travels 300 thousands KM in 1 second; that mean he is 300thousand KM away from his peer. The mechanical clock will still show 1 second and it movement will not be affected. That means, if this person is wearing a mechanical clock, when he is 300 thousand KM away from his original location, his mechanical clock will still show only 1 second has passed. However, if we look at it relative to 2 persons in the same location. When a person is stationary and the second one is travelling at the speed of light, that can mean, the first person may find his time is slower if he compare it with his peer. So, my view is, we must be able to tell the difference between mechanical time and the relative time. Of course, I think, this is only meaningful if there are 2 objects to compare and 2 locations. I can be wrong. Anyway, I hope to learn my mistake. Similarly, when a planet is sucked into a blackhole, the event horizon will apply when there is no relativity of locations and movement between objects and, there is no way to experience time.
After 1:04 I paused the video and looked for some aaaeeehh comments.
Found that its all over.
lol
What we call intuition is learned experience. We expect a ball that is dropped to fall to the ground. Our minds are not designed to know everything or answer the great philosophical questions. The question 'is there a God or is there something after death', is something that we can only speculate about and never answer. All the atheists in the world can give their reasons, but just as a dog can't understand the concept of a prime number, neither can a human being understand the real nature of this existence. See you all on the next level.
Rossini Angelini IT MUST HURT TO BE THAT STUPID
aiight
Change is the mother of time. Division is the mother of space.
Questions that always kept me wondering: How can light move, when time does not go by for light itself.
Or how can black wholes move, if they do not experience time inside?
Does anyone know when the "aaaeeehh" tick started or what caused it? There are videos of Kip from many years ago (well over a decade) and he didn't have it back then.
starfox He probably had different tics then that weren't as noticeable.
He marathoned a dvd box set of Home Improvement and never recovered
Kip Thorne (in this interview here) is the first person to ever clearly explain to me how it can be that a person stationary and a person moving can both see light travelling at velocity c, because embedded into this are the coupled wavelength and the frequency, and if you double one, you halve the other and vice versa, per the equation c = lambda * nu. Essentially what he is implying here is that embedded into wave phenomena is coupled time and space, which is a remarkable concept, and perhaps useful as a pedagogical tool. No one has ever explained it this way (at last not to me).
I have my own short Kip Thorne story. I got a chance to meet him at his office in 1991 when I was at Caltech to present a paper in mathematics (Number Theory). I knew he was at Caltech because his graduate student, the big, bad, scary black hole cosmologist Richard Price, who was an advisor on a paper I had written as an undergraduate (graduate students were terrified of him-which to me meant he was really sharp), was at the University of Utah (at the time). So I asked Kip, with some trepidation (in some closed-minded circles, it is heresy to even broach the subject-even as a footnote in the history of science), about the old aether model, because Einstein's Theory of Relativity is not dependent on the aether existing. Kip said that we still work with the aether model every day-only now we call it spacetime. That's when I knew he was a physicist's physicist. One of the highlights in my short physics 'career'. Lunch with John Archibald Wheeler (incidentally, Kip's graduate advisor) is another.
I was not surprised in the least to hear he won a Nobel Prize. Yawn. I could have told you that almost 30 years ago. What I could not have predicted is that a short story of his would become Chris Nolan's INTERSTELLAR, and that his classmate, Stephen Hawking, would also have a movie (THE THEORY OF EVERYTHING) out the same year.
Jeffrey, you're easily satisfied. Fantasyland is the happiest little kingdom in the world.
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I remember this interview differently. I remember him saying that he doesn’t use the block universe paradigm when he goes home to his family.
What he said about Firecrackers all going off at the same time..but different times to differently spaced observers fits the old joke "Time is to keep everything from happening at once". Makes me wonder how many Universes in the bubbles come and go instantly because they contain no time?
All the comments about Kip Thorne's speech impediment are self-incriminating. Viewers' own defects are being projected onto him. None of his UA-cam critics measure up to Kip Thorne by 1%. He was one of the greatest physicists of the 20th century, and right into the 21st century. He's also a humble man unlike those criticizing him here on UA-cam.
I totally agree with your comments Tomas. I think with all the excellent Physics and Mathematics that Kip Thorne has given us over his long life, he is entitled to a speech impediment. Do they also make fun of Stephen Hawking's speech impediment ? Kip Thorne is a giant in the field of Gravitational Physics, he doesn't just deserve respect - he has earned that respect !
Graeme J2 - Thanks very much for your understanding, one which shows considerable familiarity with Kip Thorne... and thank you for taking the time to post the comment. I'm sure many were puzzled by the superficiality of comments, which is to say, judging someone by a minor speech impediment as opposed to rare creative genius.
AAEEHH to that!
'[Einstein] uses the word "Relative". I prefer "Personal"'' ... Einsteins theories of Special and General Personality :)
I've come to the really amazing smart side of youtube...WOW my mind is blown!!
Don't take it too seriously, everything the guy said is complete and utter BS.
@@williamrunner6718 seek help
At 11:20, I think it will be possible to go back in time soon. Currently there is a working theory for a backwards flowing quantum wave function sending information to are brains forward moving wave function. This would account for our brains impossible reaction time, follow studies on consciousness -- Penrose - Hameroff. Other scientists are working on time travel of atoms first, next molecules, etc.Thanks to one of the best math teachers!
He has the Tim Allen grunt
I like the aaaaeehhh firecracker aaehh analogy used to help visualise the relativity of space and time aaaehhh.
Hahahaha! You're gonna burn in hell, hahahaha! (jk)
Space and time are said to be related, but we are
never told how they met. We can conceive of space
as that which contains everything there is, but what's
time got to do with it? They say time is a fourth
dimension, that space has the other three. No, space
has no dimensions; only the things in space have dimensions.
Anyway, here are some comments on the issue:
If we want to be able to communicate with each other about
the 'size' of things, first we need to invent a tool, such as the
'meter'. And, if we want to be able to communicate with each
other about the 'motion' of things, then we need to invent a
tool that will measure motion; and that tool is the clock.
We did not invent clocks to measure so-called time, but to
measure motion. The word 'time' is merely the term we use
to refer to the measure of motion. Tick-tock.
One of my idols.
😊
What is Space-Time?
A miserable pile of secrets.
+NameNotAlreadyTaken2 But enough talk! Have at you!
Hilarious line, that kinda came out of nowhere. I was getting serious & ready for a nasty fight but this killed me before even getting started.
NameNotAlreadyTaken ,,,, your response implies you are an artist of thought … .. ..
Space is infinite. Time is linear? Not a continuum? It exists irrespective of events?
We just don t know.
Kip astonishing view of warped space time defies conscientiousness which can be wrapped.
Good
you're mocking on of the greatest minds on earth guys. he's not a politician, he's a scientist FGS
I 100000000000 times prefer his way of talking over that of any politician ive ever heard
Spaaaehce
me to, I found it last night two weeks later than you but at the same time in relation to the time defined in the block universe, In a way hes saying time is an illusion experienced from within the story.
I believe he has a vocal tick!! Great!!
Uhhhhhhit
He'd be the smartest pirate, aeeeey!
makes you wonder if mockery drove person with speech impediments towards such roles... or perhaps the children of pirates were more likely to possess speech impediment and more likely to be pirates themselves...
UA-cam comments be crazy
Yup. Much smarter than you will ever will be.
He has a stammer
Space....time.....SPIME!
We need to use this... As a rule
Please download an HD version if possible
The pirat within is strong. What a nice guy!
Do his books include the aeeehs?
+Gianluca Giordimaina Do your book even exist?
+lexgotham Does*
+ChrisGr32 *Do...bookS
Gianluca Giordimaina I wasn't correcting you though,take a look at my comment again...
ChrisGr32 my bad XD
Nothing weird about his "eeuaaaggh" it's his way of saying. " Aight" like knowwhatimsaying... I
Thanks for pointing this out! 🙏
Can we really go somewhere in space and 'come back' again? Have we really come back to the same point? Maybe space, like time, flows in one direction - 'outward' (in the case of an expanding universe).
One never comes back to the same space point. Earth, the solar system and the galaxy moved for hundreds or thousands of km by then.
Q for Kip Thorne : from movie Interstellar ...Cooper and crew went to Edmund's planet where each hour is 7 years on earth due to very high gravity zone (next to black hole) ...so what's the effect of high gravity on our body clock ...it slows down same way or remain the same or speed up considerably ...fact Cooper and Dr. Brant remain same age that there was no change in their body clock ..did we ever confirm that experimentally ...for very high gravity zones ...
So what is spacetime?
Kip Thorne: Aaeehhh
I need to be stoned before I can really understand this...
I've been there, doing it... It really helps to get your head around the subject.
oooor get a degree in physics
We don't need experiments at all.
If you are the type to voluntarily seek this content out, then yes the transfer of raw cognitive processing power for the reduction in mental blocks can be most rewarding. Just be mindful before bringing the results in public of course!
Hopefully not in the islam way....
Swath of firecrackers is a good way to explain photonic mesh theory (e.g. photons never move; they merely pass information towards near-neighboring lowstate photons).
Your cracking me up.
To me:
Pure energy is "space" and the flow of pure energy is "time". Time (the flow of energy) cannot exist without space (energy) existing. Space (energy) without time (the flow of energy) is useless. If space (energy) existed but did not flow, wouldn't we say that "time stood still? Time itself would still exist as long as space existed, it just wouldn't flow. Time is dependent upon space existing in the first place.
Hence, space and time are linked as "spacetime".
For those who might say that pure energy does not exist:
Modern science recognizes the big bang occurring and the laws of nature and matter coming from that big bang. If it wasn't pure energy that banged, (since the current laws of nature and matter didn't exist yet), then what banged?
Modern science recognizes the quantum as a bundle of energy. I propose the following:
The quantum, (bundle of energy), could be seen as a "bundle of sticks". When the sticks are one way, their interaction with themselves and with other pure energy units causes certain laws of nature to occur. When the sticks get rearranged by some means, the new interactions cause different laws of nature to occur. It was a rearrangement of the "sticks" in the quantum which triggered the big bang with a corresponding release of energy.
+Charles Brightman I think the same way as you, that is the nature of what we call space and time. In reality, time is a certain frequency of events that we measure and call them something to separate what happened from what is happening.
+Victor Hugo Thank you. Some people say that the past, present and future don't really exist per se and everything is just an "eternal now".
Personally, an entity can't even think a thought without a time before the thought, a time during the thought, and a time after the thought. What was anticipated in the future, passes through the present, and becomes evident by the past. That thought was in essence an event in "spacetime". It was a part of the flow of energy in the universe of energy.
I've heard some people claim that "time" is the "speed of causality", the speed of events occurring. While I can see their point, I believe them to be wrong due to one vital point. "Speed" is distance over "time". They are utilizing "time" to define "time" without really saying what "time" actually is. In my definition above, I don't make that error. "Time" is purely just the "flow of energy". And if no energy flowed, then "time stood still". It would still exist but just wouldn't flow.
In part why I believe this all matters:
1. The "big bang" theory is the front theory of how the universe and all in it came to be.
2. That would mean that there was probably a very high flow of energy during the "bang".
3. That flow of energy is probably less now then it was then and will most probably be lower still in the future as the universe supposedly keeps expanding and energy that cannot be created nor destroyed would be getting less and less dense, most probably on it's way to a "big freeze".
4. Since modern science recognizes a one to one relationship with space and time, to me then it would at least be possible that "time" itself is slowing down giving us a relative perspective of an expanding universe. Relatively speaking, wouldn't we perceive the same perception, (whether "time" didn't change but "space" did, or whether "space" didn't change but "time" did)? Or maybe both are true, universe expanding and time slowing down? And maybe it's not a one to one relationship but a curved relationship? Hence we perceive the universe speeding up as it expands.
In my analysis I have apparently discerned some things:
1. If an eternally consciously existent entity does not actually factually exist in actual reality, then all things would cease to matter one day as one day there wouldn't be a conscious entity left to care. Life itself is just an illusion as far as eternity is concerned.
2. If such an entity truly exists, but it's not us, then life itself is still just an illusion from the human perspective as far as eternity is concerned. And one thing such an entity could never ever do, (to personally experience a total cessation of conscious existence), just happens to be the one very thing we, (as well as many other species), cannot apparently ever escape. Coincidence? Maybe. Or maybe this entity experiences "death" through entities that consciously exist and then cease to consciously exist. If so, can this entities' connection be discerned and utilized by us while we are yet consciously alive? (Even though it wouldn't matter from the human perspective as far as eternity was concerned).
I am down to only two possibilities, and with Occam's razor have narrowed it down to only one:
We either:
1. Truly do have an eternal conscious existence somehow, someway, somewhere, in some state of existence, (I acknowledge possible as there is much I as well as all of humanity do not know yet);
Or, and more probably it currently appears:
2. We truly do not have an eternal conscious existence. One day we all die from something, a death that will last into a very real eternity. We won't remember anything at all. Our "afterlife" will be like our "beforelife", a state of non-existence. Life itself is just an illusion from the human perspective as far as eternity is concerned.
Of course, if we do truly do have an eternal conscious existence, then we will either be eternally alone or still just an individual in a society of individuals. The same basic choices conscious entities have now, (to help, neutral, hurt, and to whom to help, neutral, hurt), they will probably have then also. We will basically have to deal with assholes for literally eternity. I personally am not so sure I would want that if I had a choice. Maybe I don't, but maybe I do somehow, someway.
Sorry this is so long, but I currently consider myself as a "truthseeker" just trying to get closer to the real truth.
Charles Brightman Although this is great and makes logical sense, Im a bit lost on a few things and would love to discuss them with you so that we can come into an agreement... so please if youd like to do so email me victorhugomuzi@gmail.com
Also, other intelligent beings can and do interact with humans. I can also guarantee you that if we cannot see the future and connect mentally (which i believe we cant while in a body), these beigs do that for us making it look like we do. Some of their features i have discovered from speaking to people that have experiences with them:
1. In order for them to communicate they almost always have to take over a body, but they also love to take over bodies which meane they could be lying just to do that.
2. For them to make anything happen they need something in return, also once a fellow mason told me that they do this because they can transfer energy long distances and use it(so they follow the rule that energy cannot be created nor destroyed) This is done either by sacrifices or something as simple as lighting a candle.
3. They prefer to be cast and do 'their thing' in the absense of light
I have one question: Do you mean that the the flow of energy from the bang was the beginning of time, and as it flows time will flow? Ive heard a spiritual person say that the spirits he talks to said that time is speeding up.
+Victor Hugo I just received your message now, I've had company all day and was just checking my messages before bed. I would like to discuss anything you would like to discuss in an intelligent manner. I will be emailing you after this. I may not know the answer to your questions, and if so, I will tell you so. My intent is to seek the real "absolute truth" as best as I humanly can in topics that interest me, (full well recognizing my own human limitations and fallibility as well as the fact that I as well as all of humanity truly do not know what we do not know).
To answer your question:
No, I do not believe that the bang was the beginning of "time". Nor will the end of this universe be the end of "time". And yes, the flow of energy is the flow of "time" I currently believe.
As far as some of the other stuff you mentioned, let me put this out there:
How exactly does the human brain think a thought? With billions of brain cells and trillions of brain cell connections, how exactly does the energy signal know where and when to start, what path to take, and where and when to stop to form a coherent thought? Obviously it does, but how exactly does it do it?
An analogy I like to use is:
Spread a brain out like a map. Brain cells are represented by towns and cities. Brain cell connections are represented by roads and highways. A coherent thought is represented by a vehicle traveling between one or more towns and/or cities. How exactly does the vehicle know where and when to start, what path to take, and where and when to stop to form a coherent trip? A higher intelligence has to tell it those things. But, in a way, that is a coherent trip in and of itself, albeit if only in the mind. So, how exactly does our brain think a thought before it thinks that thought? What exactly is the higher intelligence behind our very thoughts? If from within the brain and/or body, how exactly does it do it? If from outside the brain and body, how exactly does it do it and why? Do I even truly have "conscious freewill"? Am I typing this or is the higher intelligence typing this through me?
Also, do we and everything that we perceive exists, actually exist? Before you think I am crazy, let me briefly explain:
1. Modern science says energy cannot be created nor destroyed. (Hence energy is eternally existent, otherwise science is wrong and energy was created at least one time in history);
2. Modern science is seeking an energy singularity that everything in existence gets it's existence from.
Do we and everything that we perceive exists actually exist, OR does only this eternally existent energy singularity exist in the form of all things?
+Victor Hugo Victor, I copied and pasted your email address onto an email and sent it to you yesterday. If you did not receive it, let me know. My email would have been in the address.
The "aaeeeh" is the sound of the gravity waves detected by the LIGO.
How about this question, (since you didn't answer my last) - Has there ever been an experiment where the clock in the "stationary" frame has been observed as slow (from the moving frame)?
My favorite one was 13:18
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Those of you obsessed with a minor flaw suffer from a much greater impediment....I choose to learn and better myself,rather than to remain ignorant and pityful.
I guess I'm just a Bergsonist at heart. While spatializing time may give a useful framework for experimentation, any theory so founded will eventually crumble.
Would you say ‘motion’ has to be a dimension also? Ie the flow we have through space time?
contemporary mathematical interpretation: unified entity.
ancient spiritual interpretation: Brahman.
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the speeds of the source and the receiver relative to the medium are lower than the velocity of waves in the medium is what classical physics says, The equation from wikipedia is pretty valid
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My head hurts now!
Never knew Mike Ehrmantraut was a physicist !