Trey, this was phenomenal! I always learn so much from your analyses. I’ve been making my own forecasts every day, either for my mundane local weather or for severe weather elsewhere, and I made a forecast for this event. It was so interesting hearing you expand on things that I didn’t know to pay attention to (location of the trough’s exit region), and things that I noticed but ignored (broad temperature gradient of cold front). My forecast, which centered on Memphis, ended up being right for the wrong reasons, but I’m always learning more. Thanks for your hard work on this channel!
The past few weeks really turned out to be a tale of two events, with many of the problems of the first event underperforming being some of the reasons why the second event overperformed. The fact that dry air aloft is so finicky that sometimes it can completely suppress warm sector development while other times it can cap ongoing moderate synoptic scale forcing to allow semi-discrete supercells to live on is a testament to how difficult meteorological forecasting is. I remember checking the SPC website early afternoon that day just to see how things were going and was shocked to see a sudden upgrade to enhanced with a 10% hatched risk. Digging more into it and looking at ongoing tornadoes inside a broken line of spinning supercells really had me scratching my head. I watched the forecast video you did and obviously the wind profile was always going to be there, but for the environment to get so much warmer and more destabilized than expected is crazy. Seriously a forecasted 3CAPE of 40-50 turning into 130-150 is such a massive difference that obviously the SPC would have put out the Enhanced risk earlier if that had been forecasted. It's proof that especially in the off-season, if there's any risk, you've gotta keep your eyes and ears open. Heck look at all those tornadoes in the marginal risk area, too. It was a crazy event, and even crazier that it happened almost exactly 2 years to the day of the infamous December 2021 outbreak. Thanks for the great breakdown, Trey. I was really curious what allowed this event to overperform, and you really broke it down well. One little interesting thing I noticed when you were showing the cold front + shear vector lineup is how much more north-south the cold front was over the northern part of the risk area than was forecasted. The shear vectors weren't all that different than the models, maybe a bit higher of an angle, but the northern quarter of the cold front leading up into the surface low was much less angled than the NAM was forecasting. I think that may have also contributed a bit as the orientation of the cold front allowed the shear vectors to have that higher angle than expected. So much could be learned from this event, but at the same time, is proof that we have to keep working on making computer models better. The massive difference in low-level instability based on surface temperatures and dry air infiltration between the models and reality played such a massive role, and we can only hope things continue to improve over time. Thanks again, Trey!
Thank you! Absolutely; I feel like we have one or two events each year that remind us that we need to be vigilant and consider all outcomes for every event.
Thanks for making this as always Trey! Nothing better than getting surprise events broke down so in depthly like you do! Always learn a TON here. Thanks again 🙏🏽
Caught me off guard too. Because I was driving down I-65 south about 30 min before they hit. But this is sometimes how these wintertime systems can go. Hope all is well with ya Trey, and have a great Christmas!
Ive usually got a pretty good sense of tornado weather,and i remember thinking that a tornado had probably popped up,and dismissing it cause I hadnt seen or heard any real warnings. Was mildly surprised to hear about these.great data break down
Amazing and interesting break down as always. Every video you make is so interesting to me, and I hope you continue this content, because many of your fans absolutely love you 🎉
Excellent breakdown as always. Brandon copic got a good view of one of the cells lowering in benton county. The nashville cell was rotating as it came over my house before it crossed the tn river.
I was stationed at Fort Campbell and lived in Clarksville for six years. I’ve traveled many of these roads I know the area well it is very surreal to me that this area was affected by a moderate, if I can say, so, tornado. It really brings home how capable mother nature can be at dramatically altering lives
Great info, Trey! It's always interesting to hear your breakdown of events, especially when you get specific, such as "check stubs" falling out of the sky🤣. Well done as always, friend.
One thing I notice is that this outbreak would've highly benefited from a 5% hatched area. If I'm not mistaken, I think they used a 5% hatched area in the past once or twice. It would've more accurately displayed the chance for strong tornadoes in the unlikely (but possible) event conditions materialized. It would be an effective way to keep people more informed at a glance. Plus it'd only combine the already existing 5% area and the hatched area, so I feel like it'd be simpler to add than if they were to add an entirely new probability category (like a 20% tornado probability area for example). Of course, they did upgrade the risk later on, but having a 5% hatched area meant they could've displayed that information sooner and to a much wider audience. The audience namely being the weather news agencies who use the SPC's outlooks to inform the public, and the people who look at the SPC's risk maps without reading their forecast discussion. Hopefully the SPC opens up to 5% hatched areas in the future. Also if you end up reading this Trey, I'm interested in what you think about 5% hatched areas. Would you be opposed to them? Maybe there is an obvious reason why the SPC doesn't use them that I'm missing.
I think 2% and 5% hatched areas would be a great addition to the SPC toolbelt. I envision them more being used on days where storm initiation is somewhat in question (perhaps due to capping, subsidence, etc.), but if storms were to fire, they might produce significant tornadoes. A day like April 19, 2023 comes to mind, where models were split on storms actually firing in OK, but if they did, they could easily produce strong tornadoes, which is what came to fruition. December 9 could fall into that category, not necessarily for questions over storm initiation but over storm mode.
Oh when is y'all's fundraiser? I mod for Carly and I haven't heard about there being a fundraiser. I knew she was planning one but not that it was scheduled already lol
Thanks for doing these. Seeing model data and forecasts before and then never seeing what was different which caused the delta in ground reality from expected is always frustrating.
Thank you Trey for doing this one this is my home state these tornadoes affected my area too as I am in Decatur County in Southwestern Tennessee I remember this day very well
It was a crazy day! I know some people that were very close to where the tornado went through Madison and the church they go to is three streets down from the Madison path. They only lost power but they are okay. As always, I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos, and I learn a lot through them. Keep up the great work!
per usual Trey, i really appreciate your meteorological knowledge to help me learn. i also appreciate you taking the time to do these vids and break it down.
Hey! I lived less than a mile from that Clarksville tornado, that was a fun day. I was working a couple miles south of the path and it took me two hours to get home due to the damage. That night I went driving around and documenting damage and over that day I drew out a path of damage on my own and got really close to the NWS path.
I have been looking forward to this breakdown. Ty so much. Words can not express how much I enjoy your breakdowns. Each one just teaches me more and more.
I used to live in Kentucky and it reminds me of Mayfield Tornadoes of 2021 seems like everytime around December especially in the South we get Sketchy weather instead of Snow ❄️🌨️
@@ConvectiveChronicles 80 degrees at night I knew something was up in December yeah that night was weird and sure enough we had a EF1 Tornado coming granted wasnt that bad Silos dumped over and a Barn was crushed Tractors Flipped Trees knocked over nobody died tho but you could see the damage from the Storm
Was at a funeral in west central TN the day before. Stayed in a hotel overnight and left early morning. My mom wanted to wait out the storm but I had been following the forecasts and knew it was supposed to last all day. So glad we left when we did.
Man, id pay money to get classes from you. Not even kidding. Ever thought about making a masterclass marathon? I want to know everything you know. I saw your hodograph videos, still working on your others.
@@ConvectiveChronicles if you do, make a video about it because I'd be highly interested. I hit you up on your facebook and that's how I got here. I don't have a degree or anything so I'm just backyard learning this stuff. It's good knowledge to have if I ever chase a meteorology career.
Another awesome video breakdown, Trey. I had never heard of those ACARS soundings before; glad they kept planes taking off and landing so close to a tornado so we could get that sweet, sweet data. Don't you have a Patreon in the works? If you don't, you should.
the EML and 7-8 C/km steep lapse rates definitely contributed to the baseball sized hail in Northern mississippi. Over TN and KY, low level flow and SRH were also more tornado favored than what most models were showing. This definitely caught almost everyone off gaurd.
Always enjoy your stuff Trey. I live in Middle TN and this definitely caught everyone off guard in my sphere, myself included. I will say this reminded me a lot of the mini-outbreak of 3/3/20 in Nashville, as both were slight risk days to start with pretty marginal parameters and then the Nashville area ended up getting gut punched. The Madison Tornado passed 1/2 mile north of my bandmate near Madison, but luckily that was so close to the OHX radar that I could see exactly where it was on Radarscope and was able to let him know he was safe, if only just. Definitely made for an interesting Saturday.
Thank you! That region of KY/TN seems to have a lot of events that look innocuous at first glance but end up over-performing (this event and 3-3-20 are great examples). Might take a look into those events to see if there's any common ground. I'm glad your bandmate made it out unscathed!
Our house is less than a mile from significant damage in Hendersonville. We’re new here and Tornadoes in general. What was surprising is the lack of any real wind at all where we are. Still, scary as hell.
Great breakdown as always Tray. As storm chaser here in Poland 🇵🇱(we don't have as much severe weather outbreaks as USA but still active spring to early winter season) I thought I knew how weather works but your forecasts and breakdowns give me a few tons of priceless knowlege. Thank you and keep up great work💪
I live in Clarksville. While we are on the other side of the city, we still had some crazy clouds spinning right over us. But the big one missed my sister by about 1/4 mile.
Great video as always Trey, I personally did see the chance of a long tracked storm cause I had just seen Cameron Nixon’s video on Long tracked hodos and Hodo’s that day did have that long trackiness look to them, I didn’t expect the strongest storms so North though cause the “better” instability was more SW of Nashville but the better Hodos were in the north so I guess Cameron wisdom struck again with “chase the Hodograph” Mantra.
Thank you! Cameron’s stuff is awesome. If there was any part of the risk area that had a chance of seeing sig tors, it was up in TN/KY. The shear (hodographs) is often the most important discriminator for tornadoes in these setups!
i used to live in Martin TN, just north of Sharon and Dresden. i have people i still consider friends there. so to see Dresden get hit two years after the tornado that hit it in Dec 2021 is heartbreaking beyond compare.
I live right on the Cheatham/Davidson County line where the Cumberland River crosses so when watching a radar, I can accurately pinpoint where the worst part of a storm is always heading. Being able to see the debris that was sucking up into the atmosphere was the deciding factor for me and my wife to head underground. Within minutes my ears began to pop and a roar that sounded like a freight train came from the southwest and went right over top of us. Fortunately, we prayed and did not have any damage. My neighbors to each side of us were not so lucky. For at least 300 yards in each direction roofs were blown off, barns were relocated, and giant cedar and oak trees were down everywhere. Thank God no one was hurt. It might be possible that the tornado had started to recycle and was skipping over the ground I don't know but we were very fortunate. This storm eventually made it to Madison and Hendersonville and the rest is history. Definitely a day I will never forget.
Thanks! I should have gotten in my truck and went up on River Road because I would have been able to video the funnel perfectly from a safe distance, but my wife was not having it. I did get photo from a lady who took it right as it was hitting this little market on River Road, but you can only see the top of the funnel halfway down to the ground. That storm was a little too close for comfort!@@ConvectiveChronicles
Hey Trey, this is unrelated and I’m not trying to take away any attention from this tragic outbreak from this past weekend, but I have a video idea if you would like to do it. It’s the April 10, 2009 tornado outbreak. It produced the Murfreesboro TN ef4 which touched down a mile from where I lived at the time, which is still the closest I have ever been to a tornado.
TY for the info! I would say it's systems like this that makes meteorology so interesting. The not knowing exactly what happened and trying to puzzle it out.
I woke up to a tornado watch being issued. (that's about the only thing that can wake me up lol) I knew things would get real when i heard Reed T. would be coming to Hernando! (home city) and we got a storm that went tornado warned at 1:25PM. What i find the most interesting part is siren activations and fortunately we got them! Our TOR was only radar indicated and never dropped a tornado. (and yeah I'm just now watching this lol)
Unfortunate situation for Clarksville, the explosion in the tornado is extremely fascinating however. Could a giant heat source be what we use to disrupt the storm to prevent impacting towns? Very interesting
I toured OU for atmospheric sciences back in the day, but decided not to go. Just found your page in Twitter after this outbreak and after watching this video I wish I would’ve gone. Instead I will start watching these videos and try to learn as much as I can!!!! This work is fantastic keep it up!
Thank you so much! I definitely enjoyed my time at OU, but I owe a lot of my meteorological knowledge to my great meteorology professors at Arizona State, where I did my undergrad. They really challenged us by straying from the textbook and giving us real-world meteorology exercises to complete, and that was a game-changer for me.
Strange...i thought I commented on this one. I agree with as you started this video....this caught many off guard...though the SPC did hint....something. I was so surprised how as the event went on just how many tornadoes became long track and destructive. It is weird how these broad 5% days seem to be some of the more impressive events lately. Though that is mainly because this was quite unknown until the afternoon when it became apparent there was a chance all hell was about to break loose. I was so surprised how well these these storms stayed discrete. The Clarksville and Nashville tornadoes were insanely impressive and the supercells that morphed them were quite vigorous and almost spring-like. This will be one of those event I think we will see someone do some even more deep dive research on this, likely at a presentation conference or something. Just seeing this phase together like that into a mostly pure trough was pretty sick. That probably and other factors did like raise the SPC concerns as while the surface was good, it was the upper level conditions that got more favorable for helping these longer track supercell and made this into a really.....bullish event in the end. Also makes sense how most of the videos that got these tornadoes were either home video or webcams....look at where these formed...these would be a mess to chase. Also those ACARS soundings is strangely new to me. I didn't even know it was possible to get those from the airplanes cause I didn't think that was public data and mostly the NWS would be able to get that. I actually tried looking it up and it's still not easy to even access that data so unless you got a subscription or something to Github or stuff, that stuff is probably gonna be damn near impossible to get until a post-event. The low sounding profiles are amazing especially that near full profile one is just.....insane. Unless you are a chaser and launching a balloon literally within 4 miles of a tornado and it gets sucked into the storm, you can't get much better than that. That hodograph is so 🤌🤌🤌. Oh and the Clarksville, double RFD on the velocities is so cool. Actually as you said, these are usually only on the higher or highest tier tornadoes to get these, but that also could be from the lack of super close proximity radar data. I mean I believe the El Reno 2013 and Moore tornadoes had them but it's so uncommon to see these unless these tornadoes are like, right near the radar sites. I do like how you mentioned the Nashville tornado getting behind the RFD but it still continued. I truly was shocked that kept going and I am....actually not to sure how that is still able to do that for so long. I wonder if because the RFD got so far ahead of the tornado that it allowed some inflow to reform and allow it to continue, even if it was slightly cooler air. Hehe also yup, we can't keep bombing tornadoes to kill them off. It's almost as stupid as someone saying, let's spray ice or stuff into a hurricane and shut them down. There's SOOOO much more larger scale stuff going on that a tornado will be like "Ha that's adorable, I mean what was that suppose to do.....I will continue on as I was".
Can you do a case study on the Andover F5 I was at the airforce base when it went thought, before it went completely nuts. After it left the base. It was the day before my birthday. I turn 9 the day after, I was in one of the ready rooms with my dad when it hit.
@@ConvectiveChronicles Thank you, it literally started my passion for weather. I was blown away by the sounds and power of it as it got bigger. Closes I've ever been to an F5 thank God. Biggest I've seen since was the Windsor Colorado F3
I think I might do a video on that at some point soon…but as a guideline, right now central time is Zulu - 6 hours (so for example, 21z - 6 hrs = 1500 hrs = 3pm CST)…during the spring (after the time change for Daylight Savings), it’s Zulu - 5 hours.
Splanin’ to do, that’s freaking hilarious! NTSB has entered the chat. Thanks to their reckless behavior we have unprecedented data from almost within the storm.
I trust Nashville Int'l Airport followed all severe weather safety protocols, and technically the airport wasn't in a tornado warning, but you'd think they'd apply some common sense and not allow planes to take off and land, especially to/from the north, with strongly tornadic supercells approaching rapidly.
This is a perfectly example of why Trey is so good at what he does, that being humility. He is able to improve because he is able to recognize when he is incorrect or out-right unaware an event like this is even viable given the conditions. That’s why, with every new weather event, Trey becomes more knowledgeable, honing his skills, becoming more and more accurate and better at what he does. If you look for it, you can see it when viewing his earliest uploads, making your way to his most recent. It’s subtle but it’s there. He is, on average, more accurate in his analysis as well as in his predictions, which, when predicting weather, might be only a slight percentage of improvement. As he explains past, as well as current weather happenings and phenomena, he seems more confident in his analysis, as well as as in his predictions. At least that’s what I see.
@@ConvectiveChronicles Thank you Trey! I cleaned up my original comment so it makes more sense now. That said, it’s why you’re one of the best and who I rely on to find out what happened and what might be coming. As for UA-cam, currently you have no equal my friend. Stay golden and keep doing excellent work and sharing it with us.
Hey, have a small question. What are you guys going to start actually making physical models? Because, as a sculptor and a weather fanatic that lives in North Dallas literally literally if I could sculpt a tornado. It would be interesting to do so. Understanding your method cyclone to Jimmy 3. Yes, it was called that to jackdejectory. But the idea behind it is if you want it to actually make a tornado. You need eyes on the ground to understand exactly the way the tornado looked. And single handily sculpt a direct representatiand I don't think that's ever been done. It's just cutting off an interesting idea of a master's degree from Texas Tech. And I was with the wind department for a lot of my different. Art pieces that directly derived upon not just tornadoes, but also hurricanes. And this is kind of a thing that I deal with. And if I could teach anybody about. Destruction paths or tornado formation, even hurricane formation. Maybe as far as an artist could actually be beneficial to understanding to the public, what is actually happening?
Ive been waiting for this. My aunt was hit by the one in clarksville and the area i grew up in and where my friend lives was in the path of the one just north of nashville. My aunt is ok but i dont know about my friend yet. I havent been able to contact her. This event was horrible and this is one thats very personal for me. Anyway now that ive ranted im going to watch
@@ConvectiveChronicles thank you!! Yeah I am hoping so... I've been sooo anxious and haven't slept well since the morning of the day of the event. I'm hoping we will hear from her soon
With all your expertise, verbiage, speed breakdown at light speed seemingly (impressive though), why, why, aren't you more of a factor in meteorology??? Why only revolved around a "youtube" channel - and sure to think you'll comment back at other source qualifiers but not like you're found on the weather channel or inventively pioneering the next gen weather system analytic. Like I said, impressive though.
I simply got burned out with the professional and academic side of things...it's just not really something I want to be a part of, at least at the moment. I enjoy being my own boss and making my own schedule.
Well, I can tell you that you'll have your hands full into this weekend, especially Saturday night in central Florida considering the perfect ingredients to major storm events moving through into the southeast from this rare weather system in the gulf. I'm surprised more storm chasers haven't set up in Florida at the moment.@@ConvectiveChronicles
It honestly doesn't look that great, as the event will be nocturnal and instability/lapse rates are expected to remain weak despite strong shear.@@lifepro77777
Trey, this was phenomenal! I always learn so much from your analyses.
I’ve been making my own forecasts every day, either for my mundane local weather or for severe weather elsewhere, and I made a forecast for this event. It was so interesting hearing you expand on things that I didn’t know to pay attention to (location of the trough’s exit region), and things that I noticed but ignored (broad temperature gradient of cold front).
My forecast, which centered on Memphis, ended up being right for the wrong reasons, but I’m always learning more. Thanks for your hard work on this channel!
Thank you so much!
Another great analysis, observed data from the airport compared to forecast showed huge difference. Condolences to everyone affected.
The past few weeks really turned out to be a tale of two events, with many of the problems of the first event underperforming being some of the reasons why the second event overperformed. The fact that dry air aloft is so finicky that sometimes it can completely suppress warm sector development while other times it can cap ongoing moderate synoptic scale forcing to allow semi-discrete supercells to live on is a testament to how difficult meteorological forecasting is.
I remember checking the SPC website early afternoon that day just to see how things were going and was shocked to see a sudden upgrade to enhanced with a 10% hatched risk. Digging more into it and looking at ongoing tornadoes inside a broken line of spinning supercells really had me scratching my head. I watched the forecast video you did and obviously the wind profile was always going to be there, but for the environment to get so much warmer and more destabilized than expected is crazy. Seriously a forecasted 3CAPE of 40-50 turning into 130-150 is such a massive difference that obviously the SPC would have put out the Enhanced risk earlier if that had been forecasted.
It's proof that especially in the off-season, if there's any risk, you've gotta keep your eyes and ears open. Heck look at all those tornadoes in the marginal risk area, too. It was a crazy event, and even crazier that it happened almost exactly 2 years to the day of the infamous December 2021 outbreak. Thanks for the great breakdown, Trey. I was really curious what allowed this event to overperform, and you really broke it down well.
One little interesting thing I noticed when you were showing the cold front + shear vector lineup is how much more north-south the cold front was over the northern part of the risk area than was forecasted. The shear vectors weren't all that different than the models, maybe a bit higher of an angle, but the northern quarter of the cold front leading up into the surface low was much less angled than the NAM was forecasting. I think that may have also contributed a bit as the orientation of the cold front allowed the shear vectors to have that higher angle than expected.
So much could be learned from this event, but at the same time, is proof that we have to keep working on making computer models better. The massive difference in low-level instability based on surface temperatures and dry air infiltration between the models and reality played such a massive role, and we can only hope things continue to improve over time. Thanks again, Trey!
Thank you! Absolutely; I feel like we have one or two events each year that remind us that we need to be vigilant and consider all outcomes for every event.
My sister (who lives in Clarksville TN) had a close call... a pizza place a minute away from her house was completely destroyed
Scary! I’m really glad your sister is ok.
It’s crazy I live as far away as Washington state and I know the exact pizza place that got flattened. So happy everyone was in the cooler and okay.
Dang; glad she made it out ok
It missed me by 1.4 miles I live right up the road from the Luigi’s that got destroyed.
@@Bnt91308Wow, glad you're ok!
Thanks for making this as always Trey! Nothing better than getting surprise events broke down so in depthly like you do! Always learn a TON here. Thanks again 🙏🏽
Thanks so much!
Absolutely brilliant analysis. Cheers Trey.
Thank you!!
Caught me off guard too. Because I was driving down I-65 south about 30 min before they hit. But this is sometimes how these wintertime systems can go. Hope all is well with ya Trey, and have a great Christmas!
Thanks so much; same to you! Merry Christmas!
Ive usually got a pretty good sense of tornado weather,and i remember thinking that a tornado had probably popped up,and dismissing it cause I hadnt seen or heard any real warnings. Was mildly surprised to hear about these.great data break down
Amazing and interesting break down as always. Every video you make is so interesting to me, and I hope you continue this content, because many of your fans absolutely love you 🎉
Thank you so much!
@@ConvectiveChronicles no prob!
Thanks!
Had no idea of the complexity in tornado genesis nor if the tools available to detect and report on it.
Excellent breakdown as always. Brandon copic got a good view of one of the cells lowering in benton county. The nashville cell was rotating as it came over my house before it crossed the tn river.
Thank you!
I was really looking forward to this. Excellent analysis, as always. Thanks!
Thank you!
An excellent overview, Trey.
Thank you!
I was stationed at Fort Campbell and lived in Clarksville for six years. I’ve traveled many of these roads I know the area well it is very surreal to me that this area was affected by a moderate, if I can say, so, tornado. It really brings home how capable mother nature can be at dramatically altering lives
Great info, Trey! It's always interesting to hear your breakdown of events, especially when you get specific, such as "check stubs" falling out of the sky🤣. Well done as always, friend.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate the Super Thanks!
One thing I notice is that this outbreak would've highly benefited from a 5% hatched area. If I'm not mistaken, I think they used a 5% hatched area in the past once or twice. It would've more accurately displayed the chance for strong tornadoes in the unlikely (but possible) event conditions materialized.
It would be an effective way to keep people more informed at a glance. Plus it'd only combine the already existing 5% area and the hatched area, so I feel like it'd be simpler to add than if they were to add an entirely new probability category (like a 20% tornado probability area for example).
Of course, they did upgrade the risk later on, but having a 5% hatched area meant they could've displayed that information sooner and to a much wider audience. The audience namely being the weather news agencies who use the SPC's outlooks to inform the public, and the people who look at the SPC's risk maps without reading their forecast discussion. Hopefully the SPC opens up to 5% hatched areas in the future.
Also if you end up reading this Trey, I'm interested in what you think about 5% hatched areas. Would you be opposed to them? Maybe there is an obvious reason why the SPC doesn't use them that I'm missing.
I thought the same about the 5% hatched area. Nice to see i`m not alone.
I think 2% and 5% hatched areas would be a great addition to the SPC toolbelt. I envision them more being used on days where storm initiation is somewhat in question (perhaps due to capping, subsidence, etc.), but if storms were to fire, they might produce significant tornadoes. A day like April 19, 2023 comes to mind, where models were split on storms actually firing in OK, but if they did, they could easily produce strong tornadoes, which is what came to fruition. December 9 could fall into that category, not necessarily for questions over storm initiation but over storm mode.
Amazing video Trey. Always great to hear your insight into things, and thanks for coming onto me and Carly’s fundraiser with this event!
Thank you; thanks for inviting me to be a part of your fundraiser!
Oh when is y'all's fundraiser? I mod for Carly and I haven't heard about there being a fundraiser. I knew she was planning one but not that it was scheduled already lol
Thanks for doing these. Seeing model data and forecasts before and then never seeing what was different which caused the delta in ground reality from expected is always frustrating.
Those ACARS soundings are sweet! I didn’t realize airplanes provided that kind of data. Really good idea.
Great video as always Trey!
Thank you!
19:16 lmao
Thank you Trey for doing this one this is my home state these tornadoes affected my area too as I am in Decatur County in Southwestern Tennessee I remember this day very well
this outbreak just proves that you should always be prepared and that ef rating doesnt matter as much as the impact they have on lives and property.
Well said!
Excellent video as always. Also love the addition of circles/arrows, they make the video much easier to follow.
Thank you!
Stellar job Trey! I really hope you channel takes off big time because it is one of the best weather-related out there, no doubt in my mind🎉
Thank you very much!
aw man fantastic as always, loved that you brought up the bombing tornadoes discussion LOL. never quit!!!
Haha thank you!
Great synoptic and storm-scale analysis of this fascinating severe weather event as usual, Trey!
Thank you!!
It was a crazy day! I know some people that were very close to where the tornado went through Madison and the church they go to is three streets down from the Madison path. They only lost power but they are okay. As always, I appreciate the time and effort you put into your videos, and I learn a lot through them. Keep up the great work!
Thank you so much! Glad those folks were able to make it through unscathed.
per usual Trey, i really appreciate your meteorological knowledge to help me learn. i also appreciate you taking the time to do these vids and break it down.
It's my pleasure; thank you so much!
Hey! I lived less than a mile from that Clarksville tornado, that was a fun day. I was working a couple miles south of the path and it took me two hours to get home due to the damage. That night I went driving around and documenting damage and over that day I drew out a path of damage on my own and got really close to the NWS path.
I have been looking forward to this breakdown. Ty so much. Words can not express how much I enjoy your breakdowns. Each one just teaches me more and more.
Thank you so much! That means a lot!
Great analysis Trey! Thank you so much :)
Thank you!!
I used to live in Kentucky and it reminds me of Mayfield Tornadoes of 2021 seems like everytime around December especially in the South we get Sketchy weather instead of Snow ❄️🌨️
It’s certainly been that way the last few years
@@ConvectiveChronicles 80 degrees at night I knew something was up in December yeah that night was weird and sure enough we had a EF1 Tornado coming granted wasnt that bad Silos dumped over and a Barn was crushed Tractors Flipped Trees knocked over nobody died tho but you could see the damage from the Storm
Was at a funeral in west central TN the day before. Stayed in a hotel overnight and left early morning. My mom wanted to wait out the storm but I had been following the forecasts and knew it was supposed to last all day. So glad we left when we did.
Ooo I’m gonna save this to get hyped for my workout tomorrow. Thanks Trey!
Lol “whether or not we can kill them”
Great stuff as always Trey
AYEEEEE you used my photos, big W. great vid explaining all this too!
Thank you! Great shots of the hail; those were some beefy stones
yes indeed they were. destroyed my windshield but ig thats part of chasing lol@@ConvectiveChronicles
Man, id pay money to get classes from you. Not even kidding. Ever thought about making a masterclass marathon? I want to know everything you know. I saw your hodograph videos, still working on your others.
Thank you so much! I actually have thought about it; I've looked into some sites that could possibly foster something like that.
@@ConvectiveChronicles if you do, make a video about it because I'd be highly interested. I hit you up on your facebook and that's how I got here. I don't have a degree or anything so I'm just backyard learning this stuff. It's good knowledge to have if I ever chase a meteorology career.
Another awesome video breakdown, Trey. I had never heard of those ACARS soundings before; glad they kept planes taking off and landing so close to a tornado so we could get that sweet, sweet data. Don't you have a Patreon in the works? If you don't, you should.
Thank you so much! Yes, I have a Patreon in the works…I’ll have more info on that in a few days.
Yo there it is. Been having a crappy day so I’m sure this will take my mind off my circumstances for a bit. Thanks Trey!
I wish you luck with your shit day trust me I've been through it two
Sorry to hear that; hopefully things take a turn for the better for you ASAP.
@@ConvectiveChronicles Thanks bro
the EML and 7-8 C/km steep lapse rates definitely contributed to the baseball sized hail in Northern mississippi. Over TN and KY, low level flow and SRH were also more tornado favored than what most models were showing. This definitely caught almost everyone off gaurd.
In the words of James Spann, "when it comes to Thunderstorms, expect the unexpected"
Amen to that
Always enjoy your stuff Trey. I live in Middle TN and this definitely caught everyone off guard in my sphere, myself included. I will say this reminded me a lot of the mini-outbreak of 3/3/20 in Nashville, as both were slight risk days to start with pretty marginal parameters and then the Nashville area ended up getting gut punched. The Madison Tornado passed 1/2 mile north of my bandmate near Madison, but luckily that was so close to the OHX radar that I could see exactly where it was on Radarscope and was able to let him know he was safe, if only just. Definitely made for an interesting Saturday.
Thank you! That region of KY/TN seems to have a lot of events that look innocuous at first glance but end up over-performing (this event and 3-3-20 are great examples). Might take a look into those events to see if there's any common ground.
I'm glad your bandmate made it out unscathed!
Our house is less than a mile from significant damage in Hendersonville. We’re new here and Tornadoes in general. What was surprising is the lack of any real wind at all where we are. Still, scary as hell.
Glad you came out unscathed
Great breakdown as always Tray. As storm chaser here in Poland 🇵🇱(we don't have as much severe weather outbreaks as USA but still active spring to early winter season) I thought I knew how weather works but your forecasts and breakdowns give me a few tons of priceless knowlege.
Thank you and keep up great work💪
Thank you so much for the kind words!
I live in Clarksville. While we are on the other side of the city, we still had some crazy clouds spinning right over us. But the big one missed my sister by about 1/4 mile.
Glad you and your sister made it out ok
Great video as always Trey, I personally did see the chance of a long tracked storm cause I had just seen Cameron Nixon’s video on Long tracked hodos and Hodo’s that day did have that long trackiness look to them, I didn’t expect the strongest storms so North though cause the “better” instability was more SW of Nashville but the better Hodos were in the north so I guess Cameron wisdom struck again with “chase the Hodograph” Mantra.
Thank you! Cameron’s stuff is awesome. If there was any part of the risk area that had a chance of seeing sig tors, it was up in TN/KY. The shear (hodographs) is often the most important discriminator for tornadoes in these setups!
i used to live in Martin TN, just north of Sharon and Dresden. i have people i still consider friends there. so to see Dresden get hit two years after the tornado that hit it in Dec 2021 is heartbreaking beyond compare.
Definitely feel for the folks out there; it's been a really rough few years weatherwise.
I live right on the Cheatham/Davidson County line where the Cumberland River crosses so when watching a radar, I can accurately pinpoint where the worst part of a storm is always heading. Being able to see the debris that was sucking up into the atmosphere was the deciding factor for me and my wife to head underground. Within minutes my ears began to pop and a roar that sounded like a freight train came from the southwest and went right over top of us. Fortunately, we prayed and did not have any damage. My neighbors to each side of us were not so lucky. For at least 300 yards in each direction roofs were blown off, barns were relocated, and giant cedar and oak trees were down everywhere. Thank God no one was hurt. It might be possible that the tornado had started to recycle and was skipping over the ground I don't know but we were very fortunate. This storm eventually made it to Madison and Hendersonville and the rest is history. Definitely a day I will never forget.
Dang; I'm glad you made it out unscathed
Thanks! I should have gotten in my truck and went up on River Road because I would have been able to video the funnel perfectly from a safe distance, but my wife was not having it. I did get photo from a lady who took it right as it was hitting this little market on River Road, but you can only see the top of the funnel halfway down to the ground. That storm was a little too close for comfort!@@ConvectiveChronicles
Great video man. Thanks for the work you put into these to help us all learn.
Thank you so much!
Incredible. Thank you for this video.
Thank you!
Hey Trey, this is unrelated and I’m not trying to take away any attention from this tragic outbreak from this past weekend, but I have a video idea if you would like to do it.
It’s the April 10, 2009 tornado outbreak. It produced the Murfreesboro TN ef4 which touched down a mile from where I lived at the time, which is still the closest I have ever been to a tornado.
It is on my list!
These videos are always great!
Thank you!
TY for the info! I would say it's systems like this that makes meteorology so interesting. The not knowing exactly what happened and trying to puzzle it out.
I completely agree!
Been waiting for this video
Great analysis Trey. What website could I look up those Acars soundings?
Thank you! Here’s a great site for them: wxster.com/acars
I woke up to a tornado watch being issued. (that's about the only thing that can wake me up lol) I knew things would get real when i heard Reed T. would be coming to Hernando! (home city) and we got a storm that went tornado warned at 1:25PM. What i find the most interesting part is siren activations and fortunately we got them! Our TOR was only radar indicated and never dropped a tornado. (and yeah I'm just now watching this lol)
Unfortunate situation for Clarksville, the explosion in the tornado is extremely fascinating however. Could a giant heat source be what we use to disrupt the storm to prevent impacting towns? Very interesting
It would have to be a really large-scale disruption to make any difference.
@@ConvectiveChronicles of course but it’s something I’m interested looking into
I toured OU for atmospheric sciences back in the day, but decided not to go. Just found your page in Twitter after this outbreak and after watching this video I wish I would’ve gone. Instead I will start watching these videos and try to learn as much as I can!!!! This work is fantastic keep it up!
Thank you so much! I definitely enjoyed my time at OU, but I owe a lot of my meteorological knowledge to my great meteorology professors at Arizona State, where I did my undergrad. They really challenged us by straying from the textbook and giving us real-world meteorology exercises to complete, and that was a game-changer for me.
This also happened just 1 day before the anniversary of the 2021 deadly tornado outbreak
Strange...i thought I commented on this one. I agree with as you started this video....this caught many off guard...though the SPC did hint....something. I was so surprised how as the event went on just how many tornadoes became long track and destructive. It is weird how these broad 5% days seem to be some of the more impressive events lately. Though that is mainly because this was quite unknown until the afternoon when it became apparent there was a chance all hell was about to break loose. I was so surprised how well these these storms stayed discrete. The Clarksville and Nashville tornadoes were insanely impressive and the supercells that morphed them were quite vigorous and almost spring-like.
This will be one of those event I think we will see someone do some even more deep dive research on this, likely at a presentation conference or something. Just seeing this phase together like that into a mostly pure trough was pretty sick. That probably and other factors did like raise the SPC concerns as while the surface was good, it was the upper level conditions that got more favorable for helping these longer track supercell and made this into a really.....bullish event in the end. Also makes sense how most of the videos that got these tornadoes were either home video or webcams....look at where these formed...these would be a mess to chase.
Also those ACARS soundings is strangely new to me. I didn't even know it was possible to get those from the airplanes cause I didn't think that was public data and mostly the NWS would be able to get that. I actually tried looking it up and it's still not easy to even access that data so unless you got a subscription or something to Github or stuff, that stuff is probably gonna be damn near impossible to get until a post-event. The low sounding profiles are amazing especially that near full profile one is just.....insane. Unless you are a chaser and launching a balloon literally within 4 miles of a tornado and it gets sucked into the storm, you can't get much better than that. That hodograph is so 🤌🤌🤌.
Oh and the Clarksville, double RFD on the velocities is so cool. Actually as you said, these are usually only on the higher or highest tier tornadoes to get these, but that also could be from the lack of super close proximity radar data. I mean I believe the El Reno 2013 and Moore tornadoes had them but it's so uncommon to see these unless these tornadoes are like, right near the radar sites. I do like how you mentioned the Nashville tornado getting behind the RFD but it still continued. I truly was shocked that kept going and I am....actually not to sure how that is still able to do that for so long. I wonder if because the RFD got so far ahead of the tornado that it allowed some inflow to reform and allow it to continue, even if it was slightly cooler air.
Hehe also yup, we can't keep bombing tornadoes to kill them off. It's almost as stupid as someone saying, let's spray ice or stuff into a hurricane and shut them down. There's SOOOO much more larger scale stuff going on that a tornado will be like "Ha that's adorable, I mean what was that suppose to do.....I will continue on as I was".
Can you do a case study on the Andover F5 I was at the airforce base when it went thought, before it went completely nuts. After it left the base. It was the day before my birthday. I turn 9 the day after, I was in one of the ready rooms with my dad when it hit.
That event is high on my list
@@ConvectiveChronicles Thank you, it literally started my passion for weather. I was blown away by the sounds and power of it as it got bigger. Closes I've ever been to an F5 thank God. Biggest I've seen since was the Windsor Colorado F3
There's a concept I was never able to wrap my head around. Is there any chance you could shed some light on the Zulu Time thing? 😂
I think I might do a video on that at some point soon…but as a guideline, right now central time is Zulu - 6 hours (so for example, 21z - 6 hrs = 1500 hrs = 3pm CST)…during the spring (after the time change for Daylight Savings), it’s Zulu - 5 hours.
Splanin’ to do, that’s freaking hilarious! NTSB has entered the chat. Thanks to their reckless behavior we have unprecedented data from almost within the storm.
I trust Nashville Int'l Airport followed all severe weather safety protocols, and technically the airport wasn't in a tornado warning, but you'd think they'd apply some common sense and not allow planes to take off and land, especially to/from the north, with strongly tornadic supercells approaching rapidly.
This is a perfectly example of why Trey is so good at what he does, that being humility. He is able to improve because he is able to recognize when he is incorrect or out-right unaware an event like this is even viable given the conditions. That’s why, with every new weather event, Trey becomes more knowledgeable, honing his skills, becoming more and more accurate and better at what he does. If you look for it, you can see it when viewing his earliest uploads, making your way to his most recent. It’s subtle but it’s there. He is, on average, more accurate in his analysis as well as in his predictions, which, when predicting weather, might be only a slight percentage of improvement. As he explains past, as well as current weather happenings and phenomena, he seems more confident in his analysis, as well as as in his predictions. At least that’s what I see.
Thank you so much! You’re exactly right; every missed forecast is an opportunity to learn and improve, and I definitely take that seriously.
@@ConvectiveChronicles Thank you Trey! I cleaned up my original comment so it makes more sense now. That said, it’s why you’re one of the best and who I rely on to find out what happened and what might be coming. As for UA-cam, currently you have no equal my friend. Stay golden and keep doing excellent work and sharing it with us.
@@SmokeTheHolyChalice That really means a lot; thank you so much!
where do you get all of the historical weather data and radar?
I use the NOAA Weather and Climate Toolkit: www.ncdc.noaa.gov/wct/
The tornado missed my apartment in Gallatin by 2 blocks. Hit the subdivision behind me.
Dang, glad you’re ok
Hey, have a small question. What are you guys going to start actually making physical models? Because, as a sculptor and a weather fanatic that lives in North Dallas literally literally if I could sculpt a tornado. It would be interesting to do so. Understanding your method cyclone to Jimmy 3. Yes, it was called that to jackdejectory. But the idea behind it is if you want it to actually make a tornado. You need eyes on the ground to understand exactly the way the tornado looked. And single handily sculpt a direct representatiand I don't think that's ever been done.
It's just cutting off an interesting idea of a master's degree from Texas Tech. And I was with the wind department for a lot of my different. Art pieces that directly derived upon not just tornadoes, but also hurricanes. And this is kind of a thing that I deal with.
And if I could teach anybody about. Destruction paths or tornado formation, even hurricane formation. Maybe as far as an artist could actually be beneficial to understanding to the public, what is actually happening?
13 to 14 miles? That’s not abnormal at all. I’ve taken off with storms way closer. It’s actually pretty safe at that distance of 13/14 miles
The likely plane in question came in from the north, cutting across the path of the ongoing tornadic supercell before landing.
Ive been waiting for this. My aunt was hit by the one in clarksville and the area i grew up in and where my friend lives was in the path of the one just north of nashville. My aunt is ok but i dont know about my friend yet. I havent been able to contact her. This event was horrible and this is one thats very personal for me. Anyway now that ive ranted im going to watch
Dang, hopefully your friend is ok! Glad your aunt made it out ok.
@@ConvectiveChronicles thank you!! Yeah I am hoping so... I've been sooo anxious and haven't slept well since the morning of the day of the event. I'm hoping we will hear from her soon
Nice!
This area is a hotspot this time a year almost 2 years to the day
Yeah, this area has a penchant for events that like to overachieve
I always thought NAM tries to downplay events anyway
Actually the opposite; NAM often tends to be overly aggressive
Explosions dont stop them confirmed lol
Another low cape high shear event
With all your expertise, verbiage, speed breakdown at light speed seemingly (impressive though), why, why, aren't you more of a factor in meteorology??? Why only revolved around a "youtube" channel - and sure to think you'll comment back at other source qualifiers but not like you're found on the weather channel or inventively pioneering the next gen weather system analytic. Like I said, impressive though.
I simply got burned out with the professional and academic side of things...it's just not really something I want to be a part of, at least at the moment. I enjoy being my own boss and making my own schedule.
Well, I can tell you that you'll have your hands full into this weekend, especially Saturday night in central Florida considering the perfect ingredients to major storm events moving through into the southeast from this rare weather system in the gulf. I'm surprised more storm chasers haven't set up in Florida at the moment.@@ConvectiveChronicles
It honestly doesn't look that great, as the event will be nocturnal and instability/lapse rates are expected to remain weak despite strong shear.@@lifepro77777