I bought this thinking I could use the usb c to easily switch between my work laptop and MacBook Pro but the usb c cables I tried return an error message on both devices and no input detected on the monitor
None of the preset modes have any impact on input lag, they are just different combinations of brightness, contrast, colour and sharpness settings (etc). You can use whichever you prefer the visual look of
This was an excellent video, I have the same monitor model and your video was the most complete I found, but it was missing the Windows calibration, could you tell me how you calibrated it in Windows?
I think maybe my question may have been a bit vague but like, even though you did all this calibration, if the Windows calibration wasn't done well it's kind of useless, I was left with a lot of doubts, especially about that issue of "SDR brightness" it seems that no matter how much I put it in it's never good enough
@@tftcentral My question was actually quite vague. Sorry 😅, if you go to your Windows settings > system > display > there will be two HDR calibration options where you will have to install a program from the Microsoft Store called: Windows HDR Calibration, it is quite simple, but I was quite confused when I got to the last part, where I had to determine the brightness according to an image of an airplane. And the other setting is the question of "SDR content brightness" this was the part that I had the most doubts about, it seems like it never turns out right. Thank you for your attention in advance.
@herbertsantos3214 you can run the windows HDR calibration tool after you’ve configured the monitor settings. That will make some minor tweaks to tone mapping. We’d recommend only enable HDR mode when viewing actual HDR content so the config for how that mode handles SDR is a bit irrelevant
How strange. Maybe it’s variations in different regions in the firmware. The same settings are covered in the video so hopefully that can be followed instead
I don't know if you intentional left it out or actually missed it, but with HDR active you can change the color profile. I personally find the Display P3 mode the most pleasing to my eyes, but of course I don't know how acurate that is. Unforturnately the OSD is not able to memorize different color settings for different modes, as in sRGB for SDR and Display P3 for HDR. You'd have to change it manually every time. Since I use the monitor mostly for gaming and mostly with HDR (especially nowadays where RTX HDR is available for games that don't support it natively) I left it at Display P3 in general. But I'd like to hear your opinion why the sRGB mode is recommended for HDR. Thanks in advance. PS: On second thought...I could just stick with the "User" mode in HDR, too. Should take everything I set up before over to HDR anyways. And I just had a quick glance, looks great. :)
Yes user mode would operate with the full native gamut in both modes. At the moment you’re right that the same mode applies to both SDR and HDR and so it’s easier to stick with a single mode. If MSI fix that via a FW update later on, you could maybe consider using sRGB then for SDR, but using the User mode is fine too
@@tftcentral Yes and thanks to your video I discovered that after using the monitor since March. So thank you. ^^ Regarding future firmware updates...I can't exactly explain why, but I don't expect any for this model. Last one is from February 2024 and feature-wise this gen1 panel is probably fixed and runs as it should. I don't expect them to add any features.
@GODzillaGSPB they could well roll out the bug fixes (like this colour space issue) which they’ve already done recently on their 27” and 32” MPG models but time will tell
I know it’s been a couple months but did any of the color profiles seem unplayable in your in opinion ? Premium color and both the game and pro user modes look fine, but the fps,racing,RTS profiles look broken on my model
Hello. I have a problem with HDR mode. When I enable it in Windows and I check in MSI monitor settings it's ON; but the colors are all washed out. When I disable it, the colors are so bright my eyes hurt. AM I missing something? Can someone help please?
That’s because with HDR enabled, windows desktop enters an sRGB emulation to handle SDR content and so will look far less saturated than the normal SDR mode where it doesn’t do that. Once you view actual HDR content mastered in a wider colour gamut it will show those colours more saturated again. Only enable windows HDR mode when you’re going to view actual HDR content
Hello, does this monitor support 175hz with 10 bit colour range without any problems? I think we can only provide this with HDMI, right? Or does this monitor only offer 8 bit support?
Hello Mr! I really like your work and appreciate it. I ordered this panel and just to make sure - is the panel of the new msi mpg 341CQPX the same as this model? I don't need the extra 65 hz or power delivery of the USB type c :)
It’s a different, newer panel on the MPG model which is why it has a higher refresh rate. There’s no change to the pixel shape though so that’s the same as the older 175Hz panel used in this screen. Other differences are still to be confirmed but visually there doesn’t appear to be anything else beyond the higher refresh rate
@@tftcentral Thanks for answer me. I watched the review and I know that panel is gen 1 and texts are nor perfect but imperfections wich text has are difficult to see. All I want are some images of words in word office (By example) to check by myself the issue of letters on this qdOLED panel. Thanks.
@aitorglez6719 I’m afraid we don’t have any photos of that and I’m not a fan of using them personally to try and demonstrate the appearance. But if you can find any review of a 34” QDOLED panel with pics like that, the panel structure is the same on them all anyway so that should tell you 😀
Hello. I really want to know about the input lag but there is no such article or video on the Internet and unfortunately there is no reviewer from you (in my opinion, the most authoritative in the field of monitors) either. In general, my question is: It is known that CRT monitors have a minimum input lag, unlike other matrices, and thanks to it, the input lag is measured. But we also know that the input lag is directly affected by the refresh rate and technical characteristics of the computer. I also want to find out how much the input lag of CRT monitors changes when using adapters, because video cards with a direct port for vga have not been produced for a long time, and the best of them is 10 times weaker than the same RTX 4060, but as I wrote above, we know that the more powerful the hardware, the less input lag. Given all the above information, I would like to know which matrix will have a lower input lag, the CRT matrix 160 Hz or the OLED 240 Hz?
You can assume CRTs have no input lag, and can be used as a reference. I’m talking here about the delay caused by the display itself, not any other system latency metrics like graphics card, frame rates, refresh rate, mouse etc From there you can measure the lag of an LCD or OLED. Most modern gaming monitors like the 240Hz OLED have basically no lag at their native refresh rate, so both that and the CRT should be very low lag
You basically reviewed all the monitors I was interested in - Dell AW3423DWF, Philips Evnia and this MSI now. But can I ask why did you not review Samsung Odyssey G8? Your overall impression compared to the monitors mentioned above if you had a chance to use it would be much appreciated. They're all the monitors I've considered and was leaning the most to G8 because of the design but after your review of this MSI and this video I'm starting to consider 341CQP more and more.
I cant get this monitor to go higher than 160 nits with my Calibration tools, maxed brightness slider, tried both HDR modes, they have no visual difference. Using 8k ready DP cable, 175hz. What do I need to do?
Disable Windows HDR for normal desktop use and SDR applications. It will then be able to reach around 270 nits max for those uses. You’re measuring SDR within HDR mode which is rarely very good or bright
I just got the monitor yester and the picrure is not extended all the way to the right bezel. Missing like a quarter inch of screen and it is super annoying. Do you know how i fix this?
@calebs2crazy well there is supposed to be a black panel border around all sides. The image will never go right up to the plastic edge if that’s what you’re expecting and wanting?
I'm using a 24" VA panel monitor primarily for office and multimedia purposes, although I also play games occasionally. I'm interested in experiencing an OLED screen, but finding one in my country is very difficult and this model seems to be in stock. I've never used a wide monitor before. Is it really worth buying?
It’s really good and it would be a big upgrade from your current screen for sure. Here’s our review of that particular model The Best 34" OLED Monitor? MSI MAG 341CQP Review ua-cam.com/video/ZAHDv41SeN0/v-deo.html
Hi @tftcentral - I seem to be having some issue with this monitor that I can’t find an answer to. When using hdmi 2.1 and attempting to play games in “full screen”, I’m noticing that the game loads in a smaller window. This problem doesn’t appear in “borderless full screen” and doesn’t appear on other ultrawide dive tested. I’ve made sure that the monitor is set to “pc” mode and have made sure that NVCP is set to “no scaling”. Do you have any feedback on this?
I use DP 1.4 with this monitor and I’ve had the same thing happen, but only with EA games, ie madden or pga tour. Once I click on the window, it goes to full screen. I think it’s more of a game setting trying to recognize the screen size than anything, but what do I know..
After updating to the latest firmware released this month (FW.025) i started seeing color banding in every game, terrible in HDR but still present in SDR. Have you had the chance to upgrade to the latest firmware? i don't know if something on my end got set up wrong or the firmware is actually broken
@@tftcentral by full screen reset you mean the setting that resets all OSD parameters? Right now as i'm trying to figure this out i'm using dead space remake as the test game, it's really bad around the lights and the fog, just like the reflection of oil in a puddle of water
@@tftcentral one last thing, i would like to try and roll back the firmware to the previous version but i can not find it anywhere, it has been removed even from their website. If you still have it and don't mind sharing it i'd really appreciate it
When i set the HDR to 'True Black 400' using the windows hdr calibration tools the peak brightness seems right at about 750, is setting it at 750 the right thing to do or should i move it to 400/450?
I bought this thinking I could use the usb c to easily switch between my work laptop and MacBook Pro but the usb c cables I tried return an error message on both devices and no input detected on the monitor
thanks for the guide. not gonna get this monitor, but viewing and commenting for the algorithm
Thanks for the settings! The one I ordered arrived today and I'll be applying these straight away.
Perfect , thanks for this , ive just ordered one and will apply these straight away
I bought this monitor. But i cant set 175hz with msi hdmi cable. I have 7900xtx. (i see its ultra speed hdmi cable) Can u help me?
I solved. ı have to change hdmi 2.1 mod Console to PC
@@ahmetbitir6947 i was looking for this, thank you for sharing!
@@ahmetbitir6947 Thank you. I was wondering if its the cable issue. This should be said in the video tbh. or pinned at least.
@@ahmetbitir6947Can you explain more please?
I'd personally use display port
Thanks a lot !!!
I bought this thinking I could use the usb c to easily switch between my work laptop and MacBook Pro but the usb c cables I tried return an error message on both devices and no input detected on the monitor
Is fps a good setting to use for the least ammount of input delay?
None of the preset modes have any impact on input lag, they are just different combinations of brightness, contrast, colour and sharpness settings (etc). You can use whichever you prefer the visual look of
@tftcentral ok thanks I've been trying to figure what setting have the least amount of input delay, but I can't tell a difference. Thanks you!
Does this monitor support hgig ?
This was an excellent video, I have the same monitor model and your video was the most complete I found, but it was missing the Windows calibration, could you tell me how you calibrated it in Windows?
I think maybe my question may have been a bit vague but like, even though you did all this calibration, if the Windows calibration wasn't done well it's kind of useless, I was left with a lot of doubts, especially about that issue of "SDR brightness" it seems that no matter how much I put it in it's never good enough
what "Windows calibration" do you mean specifically?
@@tftcentral My question was actually quite vague. Sorry 😅, if you go to your Windows settings > system > display > there will be two HDR calibration options where you will have to install a program from the Microsoft Store called: Windows HDR Calibration, it is quite simple, but I was quite confused when I got to the last part, where I had to determine the brightness according to an image of an airplane. And the other setting is the question of "SDR content brightness" this was the part that I had the most doubts about, it seems like it never turns out right. Thank you for your attention in advance.
@herbertsantos3214 you can run the windows HDR calibration tool after you’ve configured the monitor settings. That will make some minor tweaks to tone mapping. We’d recommend only enable HDR mode when viewing actual HDR content so the config for how that mode handles SDR is a bit irrelevant
i dont know why but i have the very same monitor and cant import your profile linked in the description
How strange. Maybe it’s variations in different regions in the firmware. The same settings are covered in the video so hopefully that can be followed instead
Are you going to do the settings for the 32gs95ue?
Possibly, once we’ve reviewed it of course 😀
I don't know if you intentional left it out or actually missed it, but with HDR active you can change the color profile. I personally find the Display P3 mode the most pleasing to my eyes, but of course I don't know how acurate that is.
Unforturnately the OSD is not able to memorize different color settings for different modes, as in sRGB for SDR and Display P3 for HDR. You'd have to change it manually every time. Since I use the monitor mostly for gaming and mostly with HDR (especially nowadays where RTX HDR is available for games that don't support it natively) I left it at Display P3 in general.
But I'd like to hear your opinion why the sRGB mode is recommended for HDR. Thanks in advance.
PS: On second thought...I could just stick with the "User" mode in HDR, too. Should take everything I set up before over to HDR anyways. And I just had a quick glance, looks great. :)
Yes user mode would operate with the full native gamut in both modes. At the moment you’re right that the same mode applies to both SDR and HDR and so it’s easier to stick with a single mode. If MSI fix that via a FW update later on, you could maybe consider using sRGB then for SDR, but using the User mode is fine too
@@tftcentral Yes and thanks to your video I discovered that after using the monitor since March. So thank you. ^^
Regarding future firmware updates...I can't exactly explain why, but I don't expect any for this model. Last one is from February 2024 and feature-wise this gen1 panel is probably fixed and runs as it should. I don't expect them to add any features.
@GODzillaGSPB they could well roll out the bug fixes (like this colour space issue) which they’ve already done recently on their 27” and 32” MPG models but time will tell
hello should i use "premium color" in games? I think it looks better than the user settings after your guide
If you prefer it then that’s fine to use, yes
Please do a settings video for G80SD.
How do I change my response rate to the fastest possible like other monitors it will say slow medium or fast on this monitor it doesn’t
That’s not needed on an OLED monitor as the pixel response times are near instant as standard. No need for overdrive modes like on an LCD 😀
I know it’s been a couple months but did any of the color profiles seem unplayable in your in opinion ? Premium color and both the game and pro user modes look fine, but the fps,racing,RTS profiles look broken on my model
Didn’t really use them much but they are just alternatives with different settings changed. Like sharpness etc. no real need to use them I don’t think
Hello. I have a problem with HDR mode. When I enable it in Windows and I check in MSI monitor settings it's ON; but the colors are all washed out. When I disable it, the colors are so bright my eyes hurt. AM I missing something? Can someone help please?
That’s because with HDR enabled, windows desktop enters an sRGB emulation to handle SDR content and so will look far less saturated than the normal SDR mode where it doesn’t do that. Once you view actual HDR content mastered in a wider colour gamut it will show those colours more saturated again. Only enable windows HDR mode when you’re going to view actual HDR content
Can you do a video like this for g95nc?
Hello, does this monitor support 175hz with 10 bit colour range without any problems? I think we can only provide this with HDMI, right? Or does this monitor only offer 8 bit support?
We cover this in our review here: This is the best 34” OLED monitor right now! - MSI MAG 341CQP Review
ua-cam.com/video/ZAHDv41SeN0/v-deo.html
You probably wont read thid but worth a try should i use windows hdr calibration tool?
We did read it 😀 yes, worth running through that in HDR mode too
Hello Mr! I really like your work and appreciate it. I ordered this panel and just to make sure - is the panel of the new msi mpg 341CQPX the same as this model? I don't need the extra 65 hz or power delivery of the USB type c :)
It’s a different, newer panel on the MPG model which is why it has a higher refresh rate. There’s no change to the pixel shape though so that’s the same as the older 175Hz panel used in this screen. Other differences are still to be confirmed but visually there doesn’t appear to be anything else beyond the higher refresh rate
@@tftcentral Thank you very much! :)
Great review
Review the Dell U4025QW 5k monitor
In new zealand this on special for 1600 nz. Can't decide between this or the wide oled g8.
Dove hai trovato quello sfondo che hai all'inizio?
it's a random wallpaper we had, although I don't seem to have it on file any more I'm afraid
@@tftcentral hai qualche consiglio per qualche sito che abbia sfondi che rendano in formato 21:9 oled?
Not really but if you Google “scenery wallpaper 21:9” I’m sure you’ll find plenty
Hello this monitor work great with for nvidia cards gsync ?
Yes it supports NVIDIA Gsync
@@tftcentralbut people says when turn on adaptive sync oled care turns off its right ?
@umutnengin4951 no I don’t believe so. That would be very odd. No longer have the screen to be able to double check but that doesn’t sound right
Is possible able Nvidia g sync?
How is text representation on windows 11 like word Office etc?
Check out our review of the screen linked in description for commentary on performance including office use
@@tftcentral Thanks for answer me. I watched the review and I know that panel is gen 1 and texts are nor perfect but imperfections wich text has are difficult to see. All I want are some images of words in word office (By example) to check by myself the issue of letters on this qdOLED panel. Thanks.
@aitorglez6719 I’m afraid we don’t have any photos of that and I’m not a fan of using them personally to try and demonstrate the appearance. But if you can find any review of a 34” QDOLED panel with pics like that, the panel structure is the same on them all anyway so that should tell you 😀
@@tftcentral Ohh it's true. Thank you ^^
Are these settings still valid with the latest FW.028 released in November 2024 ?
yes :)
is it worth dropping down to 144hz refresh rate to get 10 bit color instead of the 8 bit at 175hz?
I don’t think so, no
Hi, i got this monitor today, on Nvidia Panel i have 8 bit colors and i cant set it to 10, i can't find any solutions on internet
You can only use 10-bit up to 144Hz on this model as it doesn’t use DSC. At 175Hz you are limited to 8-bit only I’m afraid
I should add that if you have a graphics card with HDMI 2.1 output you can use that connection to support 175Hz at 10-bit
@@tftcentral that's why, im using DP at 175hz, but do i see the difference betweeen 8bit and 10bit?
@ChaosXIII I doubt you’d be able to spot any meaningful difference tbh
Just ordered this for $579 USD, wish me luck
The download link is dead 😟
Sorry try again later as the website is offline at the moment due to server issues
Should be working again now
Hello. I really want to know about the input lag but there is no such article or video on the Internet and unfortunately there is no reviewer from you (in my opinion, the most authoritative in the field of monitors) either. In general, my question is: It is known that CRT monitors have a minimum input lag, unlike other matrices, and thanks to it, the input lag is measured. But we also know that the input lag is directly affected by the refresh rate and technical characteristics of the computer. I also want to find out how much the input lag of CRT monitors changes when using adapters, because video cards with a direct port for vga have not been produced for a long time, and the best of them is 10 times weaker than the same RTX 4060, but as I wrote above, we know that the more powerful the hardware, the less input lag. Given all the above information, I would like to know which matrix will have a lower input lag, the CRT matrix 160 Hz or the OLED 240 Hz?
You can assume CRTs have no input lag, and can be used as a reference. I’m talking here about the delay caused by the display itself, not any other system latency metrics like graphics card, frame rates, refresh rate, mouse etc
From there you can measure the lag of an LCD or OLED. Most modern gaming monitors like the 240Hz OLED have basically no lag at their native refresh rate, so both that and the CRT should be very low lag
You basically reviewed all the monitors I was interested in - Dell AW3423DWF, Philips Evnia and this MSI now.
But can I ask why did you not review Samsung Odyssey G8?
Your overall impression compared to the monitors mentioned above if you had a chance to use it would be much appreciated.
They're all the monitors I've considered and was leaning the most to G8 because of the design but after your review of this MSI and this video I'm starting to consider 341CQP more and more.
Samsung never wanted to send it to us when it was launched and it’s now pretty old
So you recommend for HDR Pro Mode - sRGB, not User - User, like MEG 342C? This is most accurate color for HDR?
User mode for HDR mode yes, for full native gamut coverage
I cant get this monitor to go higher than 160 nits with my Calibration tools, maxed brightness slider, tried both HDR modes, they have no visual difference. Using 8k ready DP cable, 175hz. What do I need to do?
Disable Windows HDR for normal desktop use and SDR applications. It will then be able to reach around 270 nits max for those uses. You’re measuring SDR within HDR mode which is rarely very good or bright
I just got the monitor yester and the picrure is not extended all the way to the right bezel. Missing like a quarter inch of screen and it is super annoying. Do you know how i fix this?
Likely the pixel shift function, extra room as it shifts around. Disable that in the OLED care menu and see if it levels it off
@@tftcentral it won't allow. Slow is the lowest you can do but it doesn't do anything. Still looks like an extra bezel outside of a bezel.
@calebs2crazy well there is supposed to be a black panel border around all sides. The image will never go right up to the plastic edge if that’s what you’re expecting and wanting?
@@tftcentral yeah I see the black border but right next to it is a small extra gray border from the uncovered screen itself
I was told this is a part of pixel refresh by a couple peeps online. I've experienced 2 other QD OLED ultrawides and have never seen it before.
been seeing alot of horror stories about using HDMI and 10bit while gaming having issues. is the panel still great even at 8bit at Display port?
Yes absolutely. I doubt you’d be able to tell any real world difference between 8 and 10-bit tbh anyway
@@tftcentral awesome thank you
I'm using a 24" VA panel monitor primarily for office and multimedia purposes, although I also play games occasionally. I'm interested in experiencing an OLED screen, but finding one in my country is very difficult and this model seems to be in stock. I've never used a wide monitor before. Is it really worth buying?
It’s really good and it would be a big upgrade from your current screen for sure. Here’s our review of that particular model
The Best 34" OLED Monitor? MSI MAG 341CQP Review
ua-cam.com/video/ZAHDv41SeN0/v-deo.html
@@tftcentral Awesome! Thank you for your reply.
Hi @tftcentral - I seem to be having some issue with this monitor that I can’t find an answer to. When using hdmi 2.1 and attempting to play games in “full screen”, I’m noticing that the game loads in a smaller window. This problem doesn’t appear in “borderless full screen” and doesn’t appear on other ultrawide dive tested. I’ve made sure that the monitor is set to “pc” mode and have made sure that NVCP is set to “no scaling”. Do you have any feedback on this?
I use DP 1.4 with this monitor and I’ve had the same thing happen, but only with EA games, ie madden or pga tour. Once I click on the window, it goes to full screen. I think it’s more of a game setting trying to recognize the screen size than anything, but what do I know..
After updating to the latest firmware released this month (FW.025) i started seeing color banding in every game, terrible in HDR but still present in SDR. Have you had the chance to upgrade to the latest firmware? i don't know if something on my end got set up wrong or the firmware is actually broken
Not yet but we will be next week so will look out for this. I’d do a full screen reset after the update to see if that helps
@@tftcentral by full screen reset you mean the setting that resets all OSD parameters?
Right now as i'm trying to figure this out i'm using dead space remake as the test game, it's really bad around the lights and the fog, just like the reflection of oil in a puddle of water
@Akyaris-h3y yes that’s what i meant. Via the menu, a factory reset.
@@tftcentral Yes, i tried that and did nothing.. I'll wait your video to see if it's my monitor or a firmware issue. Thanks!
@@tftcentral one last thing, i would like to try and roll back the firmware to the previous version but i can not find it anywhere, it has been removed even from their website. If you still have it and don't mind sharing it i'd really appreciate it
its some monitor bug ,then you launching game some games reverting to 3840x2160 at 120hz and displaying 16:9 format
When i set the HDR to 'True Black 400' using the windows hdr calibration tools the peak brightness seems right at about 750, is setting it at 750 the right thing to do or should i move it to 400/450?
Just use the slider as guided and ignore the number it lists. It’s often wrong or misaligned
@@tftcentral Thanks for the fast answer!
What about in games? for example in RDR2 where i have to manually set the peak brightness
@lemasespandon again just follow the slider /guidance and ignore the number reported 😀
MSI firmware v017 02/27/2024 mentions: "Optimized HDR EOTF Curve on “Peak 1000 nits” mode." Did this address your stated issue with HDR Peak 1000?
That will be the one used in the review if it was from late Feb
Hey buddy. What about "image enhanced" in the professional tab, what setting should we use? Thanks
I’d recommend leaving it on the default. IIRC that just artificially increases the sharpness
@@tftcentralNice. And HDMI 2.1 mod: Console or PC? What do you recommend?
@ArthurConradi depends on what you’re connecting 😀
@tftcentral My monitor is connected to my laptop. So the PC option is better, right? 😅
Also, I turned Adaptive-Sync option on...
@ArthurConradi yes
I bought this thinking I could use the usb c to easily switch between my work laptop and MacBook Pro but the usb c cables I tried return an error message on both devices and no input detected on the monitor