I was able to buy this monitor when it was discounted for 729$ plus i had a 175$ gift card with amazon so the monitor before tax cost me only 554$. I knew this was going to have the old gen 1 screen. The text fringe doesnt bother me at all as im the distance to where its barely noticeable. Plus with the 3 year warranty this was a no brainier for me. The X version coming out while has a 2nd/3rd gen did not give me a reason to wait cause its not enough of a difference to justify it more likely costing 200-300$ more if going by speculations. 2/3 gen will still hit true black 400 or peak 1000 like 1st gen so i think this is the best for the price.
I just ordered it, I’m going to use it for multitasking (Adobe, 360-Office, CAD and gaming) how would describe your experience and do you have any maintenance advice?
So the 341CQP indeed has the old subpixel structure. Sad news, was about to jump for one few days ago, glad I refrained myself. Any news about the 341CQPX ? Was supposed to launch at the end of April and its already 25th :))
It is indeed, as we’ve always maintained. The MPG model should be with us soon for review in mid to late May. Not sure on release date/stock but should be soon
@@tftcentral but why there isn't any other brand advertising the new panel like MSI ? Was expecting Alienware and Samsung to advertise it a bit, but well, radio silence everywhere :(
@tg246 yes it is a little odd. Gigabyte have plans to use it too tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-announce-range-of-new-aorus-oled-gaming-monitors-at-ces-2024
Just see this pop up on Amazon for £798 so I thought I'd double check this was definitely the newer model. It's a shame it's the older panel, but for £798 it's pretty tempting
Great review! I just picked up a black friday deal on this from Amazon for $575. It seems all of the competitors using this panel are in the ~$650 range right now so it was a tough choice. The Odyssey G8 was a no-go for me with its compatibility issues using HDR with AMD gpus. The alienware has a fan, which I absolutely hate, that is also supposedly pretty whiny as it ages. So this was the best option- thanks for the review, there really aren't many for this monitor so I'm glad this was a thorough one!
I know a lot of people won’t be running at 60hz but for console gamers it’s a different story. It’s interesting how this model and the 27 inch have such high input lag at 60hz. While the 32” has very little.
I think the LG 39GS95QE is the only one I know so far at this 39" size, and is not yet landed in EU. Also not perfect, since it's WOLED (worse than QD-LED in my opinion) and still 3440x1440 (lower dpi than 34"). I come from an IPS LG 38GN950-B and it was almost perfect (both size and res). I never thought that in 2024 it was not going to have an oled replacement without any sacrifices.
you'll want either 1440 or 2160 for flexibility when watching content.. then whatever size has a ppi low enough that you can tolerate. 1440 is by far better, oleds need high fps to mitigate sample and hold blur, you can't get that at 2160p ultrawide which is 10k pixel count
any noticable difference between the 342C and 341CQP versions? i just recently bought the C version, didnt know there was a "newer" version on this monitor
5:20 Curious to know how did you get to DLDSR resolutions to that value. For my AW3423DW, DLDSR values are at 4587x1920 & 5160x2160 for 1.78x and 2.25x. Did you have multiple monitors connected?
Yes we did at the time actually iirc. Wasn’t focusing on the listed options tbh, just the availability of the section. Often it’s just not there if it’s not supported
Thanks for this and other reviews on this year's new oled. I am currently waiting for the MSI MPG 341CQPX review, will you be able to review it only when it goes on sale (probably in August) or can you possibly do it earlier? Because I noticed that some small MSI partners have already gotten it and have done their reviews on youtube I'm really looking forward to a review from you including. Tired of waiting for this model because 240 hz is really better than 175 hz. And I'm looking at MSI 271QRX periodically because I'm tired of sitting on my slow VA from xiaomi. Though I realize I'm too used to the 21:9 format and am unlikely to buy a standard 16:9. Too bad only MSI long enough to release this model on 240 hz, 21:9 format :(
Can you look at the Philips EVNIA that just released July/Aug? The 2M6500 QD OLED 175hz with Ambiglow? Theres nothing of it anywhere. And rtings etc dont really review philips. Its cheap though, where I live atleast at €800 down from €1100-1200.
I think the file format seems to change with different firmware versions annoyingly. Not sure why, sorry about that. Follow the settings manually from the video instead, same end result 🙂
It's realy nice to see the arrivals of ultrawide 34" monitors with a refreshrate of 175hz plus wide gamut, which I don't have on my Acer Predator 32" and I find pretty disturbing. The refresh rate is high enough to not see any flickering anymore. I have however seen a review of a 540hz screen which is a serious step up in experience, described as looking through a window instead of looking at a monitor. At this refresh rate a human does not see any ghosting anymore. There is no real difference between 175hz, 240hz, 360hz. The magic seem to happen above 500hz. This monitor has still many disadvantages, having a 1080p 24" TN panel. But I guess/hope monitors like the MSI MAG 341CQP with 540hz refresh rate aren't that far away anymore.
This is newer and has more modern features, although the panel is the same underneath. Depends if you need any of the features that are extra, or prefer the design I suppose for one over the other
Are there any QD-OLED panels that dont have VRR flickering? What do I have to look for to get one that doesn't suffer from this. I am using an AMD GPU, if that is relevant.
It’s an inherent challenge with OLED technology. But it really is very variable depending on your system, content, frame rates etc MSI have recently updated the firmware on their MPG271QRX and MPG321URX, including supposedly improving this but we’ve yet to test that. Worth reading around from owners to see how it’s helped. Asus also updated the firmware on their PG27AQDM so there def seems to be a focus from manufacturers on improving this area
Officially Samsung call it a 2nd gen panel with all the technologies from that gen. But to make life confusing it was released in 2024 alongside their 3rd gen panels, and it has the pixel structure from their 1st gen panels. Super confusing I know
Thank you very much for this video, I have a question... what is the difference between this one and the MEG 342C QD OLED that we can now found at 700€ on MSI website ? which one do you advise ?
The difference is the build quality of the stand. Meg is abit more premium. The mag is perfectly goof though. In your country if its like a small difference than sure get the Meg but if its large than get the mag
Hello, i received this monitor yesterday however I am noticing some screen flickering? Seems to be doing this through SDR and HDR with virtual sync on. It come and goes, but its really annoying, any advise on this? Thank you
It’s a challenge on all OLEDs unfortunately. You could try capping your VRR frame rate to avoid as many drastic frame rate swings or just simply turn off adaptive sync and play without it
@tftcentral thank you, just seems strangely odd to sell a product with the option for adaptive sync to enable g-sync.. maybe optional MSI drivers or future geforce updates may fix this?
Update on this... I plugged in the included HDMI cable from my graphics card over to the monitor and even with adaptive sync on this issue has gone completely :) very happy, I know for a fact there wasn't an issue with the DP cable I was using!? Very unsure
Hey, how would you say this compares to the Alienware qd oled ultrawides? I have tried this monitor and it looks way better than the Samsung or Philips qd oled's. Idk how it's possible since it's the same tech but somehow the more budget msi beat the comp for me.
Tell me please. I bought this monitor and besides the native 3440x1440p resolution, there is also a 3840x2160p resolution, did you have the same? Because of this, even modern games do not always run in native resolution, but in 16:9 mode
Yes it supports that resolution mainly so consoles can function fully. I assume you’re connected over HDMI instead of DP? Try switching the OSD setting from console to PC mode for HDMI 😀
@@tftcentral The mode is on the PC, but alas, everything is the same. Also, when DLDSR is enabled, the resolution multiplier comes from 4k, and not from the native 3440x1440p
@kauhu4397 are you using HDMI? Try using DP instead, that should solve it. Other option would be to use a tool like CRU and remove the entry for that resolution in windows. It’s just getting confused as it supports that option but you don’t actually want to use it from the pc. Displayport should work fine too
@@tftcentraleventually it came down to the length of my cable 3meter+ I would get artifacts and blackscreens. Now on 1.4dp 3mcable. Maybe you know more about signal loss?
I have a Samsung Odyssey OLED G8 for something about 5 months and recently bought this MSI MAG 341CQP. Have made some side by side tests few days ago. Didn't you mention that in gray and near black scenes sometimes 341CQP has some noise, like heavy filmgrain effect? And in Windows HDR Calibration at black calibration section in 0.005 (one click right from 0.000) point gray image appears soo bright, like more than five clicks on Odyssey G8. And thats why i think in games like Returnal almost none of blacks (overbrighten image).
odyssey g8 oled 34 and MSI MAG 341CQP 34 I think you have both monitors. I plan to buy one of the two and please enlighten me on this issue, which one do you think is better. Which one would you buy?
Hi @tftcentral - I seem to be having some issue with this monitor that I can’t find an answer to. When using hdmi 2.1 and attempting to play games in “full screen”, I’m noticing that the game loads in a smaller window. This problem doesn’t appear in “borderless full screen” and doesn’t appear on other ultrawide dive tested. I’ve made sure that the monitor is set to “pc” mode and have made sure that NVCP is set to “no scaling”. Do you have any feedback on this?
just a simple question, which would you go with MSI MAG341CQP vs AW3423DWF ? I am torn between both. I am a horror perosn, I only watch things that has a lot of dark colours, and blacks. I do a lot of productive thngs like game design, coding, and Visualization so I don't use static elements all teh time. I do game, a lot of horror, but some FPS like Overwatch (Lol OW is dead) and getting to get into Valreant as well
@GothicTech now that one is very different as it’s using a WOLED panel instead of QDOLED. steeper curve, grainier coating but higher refresh rate. We’ve reviewed the Asus equivalent if you want to know more about that panel tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-swift-pg34wcdm
Do you have an opinion on true 10bit versus 8bit + FCR? I'm trying to decide whether to... a) Use the monitor with 144hz + 10bit HDR over DP b) Use the monitor with 175Hz + 8bit (FRC) HDR over DP or maybe even c) Switch to an HDMI 2.1 cable I'd appreciate any advice. :) Thanks in advance.
I suppose it really depends what frame rates you’re reaching in your games. If you’re getting over 144Hz, I’d go with the higher refresh rate as I don’t think you’d notice any real difference on the colour depth side of things. Or just use an HDMI 2.1 connection and get both if your graphics card supports it 😀
@@tftcentral Framerate wise 144 is enough for me. 120 is enough for me, which is what I usually set my RTSS fps limit to. I've been running in 144hz mode for quite a while now to be honest. It's just that your test made me think about your graph with the input lag. Lowest with 175hz, rather terrible with 60hz and me somewhere in between. But I guess I was thinking wrong there. 175hz withouth the proper fps to back it up will not on it's own give me low input lag, or will it?
@GODzillaGSPB yes it would actually. The lag is linked to the refresh rate you have the screen set to, regardless of your achieved frame rate or VRR situation. Perhaps try 175Hz and see if you notice any difference or not. We didn’t measure it at 144Hz but I suspect it’s a very minor difference if any
@@tftcentral I'll give it a thought. I'm using the 144hz ceiling to lower fps for games that use Frame Generation. These can easily hit the 168 fps (which is the natural ceiling, imposed by Nvidia reflex I guess, when running 175hz), which usually also maxes out the graphic card, meaning high power consumption and heat. Setting the monitor to 144hz eases this down a notch. I'm living in a country where air conditioning is uncommon, so saving a bit in terms of heat and power consumption is a plus for me. ^^ Most games running with Frame Generation do not work well when I impose an artificial fps limit (via RTSS for instance), so the "natural" ceiling via monitor frequency is the only way. So, in short: This probably has more benefits for me than the slightly better input lag with 175hz I guess. PS: I did notice that you never actually answered my initial question about 8bit + FRC versus 10bit. So I'd like to ask again, do you have any experience with that? I saw no difference with the naked eye, so in general, apart from the very specific idea with the ceiling for FG, 175hz would be the way to go, even over DP. You see it differently? Thanks in advance.
Could you tell me, by any chance, if the thing about input lag with VRR corresponding to that you'd get with a fixed maximum refresh rate also applies to console gaming with VRR enabled?
@@tftcentral Thank you so very much for answering! So it won't be the monitor's max refresh rate, of course, since consoles don't support that. Will it be set to the maximum refresh rate supported by both source device and the display, which would be 120 Hz in this case, with input latency being roughly equivalent to that at fixed 120 Hz? Did I get that right and is this how all VRR implementations operate? Or does HDMI VRR work differently compared to FreeSync/G-Sync? Or the displays refresh rate follows the source frame rate with input latency changing with it dynamically, so that if the source won't output in >60 FPS there would be no benefits with VRR enabled in terms of input latency? I'm sorry for bothering you with these questions, you don't have to bother really.
@juanblanco7898 the input lag will be tied to what is set as the selected refresh rate, as if you weren’t using VRR. So in your example for a console it would align to 120Hz. I don’t think I’ve ever seen VRR add any meaningful additional lag either
Just picked this monitor up in the Uk for £700. However I have a small issue with it I have hooked up the supplied HDMI cable with it put I can only select a refresh rate of 100hz not 175hz in windows, I should I try a better cable?
@timdance426 yeah it does, and your card should be fine. Should work. Check in NVIDIA control panel in case you’re in the tv section instead of pc section. Also maybe try changing via windows display settings instead
I have this monitor. I can set the maximum to 120hz, but then the screen scales to 4k 16:9. At 100hz everything is ok. Tested on rtx 3090 and rx 7900xt and the same. There is no problem with 360hz on msi 271qrx. What could it be?
how do you test input lag? because Rtings don't have same number in input lag? for example Input lag MSI MAG 341CQP you have 0,2ms, and Rtings has 2ms...
It’s a tool called SMTT which is designed to isolate the lag of the display only, and compare it to a reference CRT. explained here tftcentral.co.uk/articles/input_lag Rtings don’t appear to explain their methodology anywhere that I can see…
Bonjour faut t'il privilégier le hdmi ou le displayport pour atteindre le 175Hz car jai cette ecran que jai branché en displayport mais quand je le met a 175Hz mon affichage saute
If you’re having problems then it will likely be the cable, that’s normally the culprit for signal problems. Try another one if you can. Does your graphics card have HDMI 2.1 output? If so you could use that instead
@@tftcentral j'ai une 4090 et je vais essayer avec le hdmi mes j'aurai aimé pouvoir profiter des avantages du displayport en terme de couleur par rapport au hdmi
@greentwister1 try the MPG 341CQPX model instead if that’s something you need but had settled on the screen otherwise. Very similar overall performance
@@tftcentral Thanks! Having tested it, do you think the OLED panel at 1440p is pixelated at all? I’ll be using mainly for work/coding. I wonder if going for 4K is more futureproof
Disappointing amount of demonstration about topics. One that stood out for me is on about the text clarity comparison, but nit showing us anything to go off.
I do feel that even DP 2.1 is barely keeping up with the raising monitor uncompressed bandwidth needs. HDMI 2.1 is quite slow by now. I would hope the display connection specs to outpace the needs.
I'd say the 15W downgrade is more than "a bit lower" from the MEG's 65W as is stated in the video. I don't even understand what the 15W is for anyway? To charge your phone? It won't power any laptop that could take advantage of DP Alt mode.
@@tftcentral will the monitor be the same price as this one then (do we have price info at this point)? Seems like it wouldn't make sense for MSI to do that. Do you think its worth waiting a month or a month and a half tops if I'm considering AW3423DWF and Samsung Oddysey G8 right now? (for the new coming monitors)
That’s discussed in the video. We prefer this for several reasons, despite the lower refresh rate. Screen coating, text clarity, curve steepness and price!
Funny how we all draw different conclusions. Anything with a 800R WOLED panel, like that Asus monitor, would be at the very bottom of my OLED shopping list.
@@Vaznazza I struggled to answer your question because a lot of subjective opinions go into defining what counts as a "better monitor". A competitive gamer might say the 240Hz refresh rate on the Asus is better, but the vast majority of humans will never be able to tell a difference. Also, the sort of competitive gamer who cares about that cares nothing about color or viewing angles or anything beyond refresh rates, so they would be looking for a 27" 400Hz monitor. None of them are shopping for 34" ultrawides. WOLED achieves higher brightness, so the Asus would be slightly better for HDR content, but that gets into an area similar to the coating you wanted to disregard. Ultimately, if you like and want the 800R curvature, then none of the QD-OLED monitors matter. None of them can ever be better for you.
I was able to buy this monitor when it was discounted for 729$ plus i had a 175$ gift card with amazon so the monitor before tax cost me only 554$. I knew this was going to have the old gen 1 screen. The text fringe doesnt bother me at all as im the distance to where its barely noticeable. Plus with the 3 year warranty this was a no brainier for me. The X version coming out while has a 2nd/3rd gen did not give me a reason to wait cause its not enough of a difference to justify it more likely costing 200-300$ more if going by speculations. 2/3 gen will still hit true black 400 or peak 1000 like 1st gen so i think this is the best for the price.
Are you able to overclock it?
Are you having any issue with the panel saving pop ups that people are complaining about? Or auto shutoff?
the X version is the exact same monitor only has the 240hz upgrade. its not a new panel.
Congrats
I just ordered it, I’m going to use it for multitasking (Adobe, 360-Office, CAD and gaming) how would describe your experience and do you have any maintenance advice?
So the 341CQP indeed has the old subpixel structure. Sad news, was about to jump for one few days ago, glad I refrained myself. Any news about the 341CQPX ? Was supposed to launch at the end of April and its already 25th :))
It is indeed, as we’ve always maintained. The MPG model should be with us soon for review in mid to late May. Not sure on release date/stock but should be soon
@@tftcentral but why there isn't any other brand advertising the new panel like MSI ? Was expecting Alienware and Samsung to advertise it a bit, but well, radio silence everywhere :(
@tg246 yes it is a little odd. Gigabyte have plans to use it too tftcentral.co.uk/news/gigabyte-announce-range-of-new-aorus-oled-gaming-monitors-at-ces-2024
Don't the CQPX still use the Gen 1 panel?
Think they updated this on their site FYI...
Info here tftcentral.co.uk/news/an-update-and-correction-for-the-new-34-ultrawide-240hz-qd-oled-panel
Just ordered this monitor cant wait to see the oled quality
Ive decided to make my purchase based on this review so thanks. I subbed to the channel
Just see this pop up on Amazon for £798 so I thought I'd double check this was definitely the newer model. It's a shame it's the older panel, but for £798 it's pretty tempting
Sounds about the right price for it. Just check the model name 😀
Great review! I just picked up a black friday deal on this from Amazon for $575. It seems all of the competitors using this panel are in the ~$650 range right now so it was a tough choice. The Odyssey G8 was a no-go for me with its compatibility issues using HDR with AMD gpus. The alienware has a fan, which I absolutely hate, that is also supposedly pretty whiny as it ages. So this was the best option- thanks for the review, there really aren't many for this monitor so I'm glad this was a thorough one!
Sounds like you got a great deal. Enjoy!
I know a lot of people won’t be running at 60hz but for console gamers it’s a different story. It’s interesting how this model and the 27 inch have such high input lag at 60hz. While the 32” has very little.
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Is the oled panel refresh notification issue still a thing?
Waiting for larger ultrawide oleds. 38 inch at 1600 would be welcome. Even larger at 2160 would be ideal.
Yes
Anything bigger than 38 and smaller than 43 would be ideal with something between 1800r- 2300R.
I think the LG 39GS95QE is the only one I know so far at this 39" size, and is not yet landed in EU. Also not perfect, since it's WOLED (worse than QD-LED in my opinion) and still 3440x1440 (lower dpi than 34").
I come from an IPS LG 38GN950-B and it was almost perfect (both size and res). I never thought that in 2024 it was not going to have an oled replacement without any sacrifices.
you'll want either 1440 or 2160 for flexibility when watching content.. then whatever size has a ppi low enough that you can tolerate. 1440 is by far better, oleds need high fps to mitigate sample and hold blur, you can't get that at 2160p ultrawide which is 10k pixel count
@@StevoHDA It's primarily for Gaming and development work. Thanks for your reply
Would love to see your thoughts about the LG 38WR85QC-W or any 34” IPS monitors for office work and casual gaming.
I’m looking at the 341CQPX but it’s out of stock
any noticable difference between the 342C and 341CQP versions? i just recently bought the C version, didnt know there was a "newer" version on this monitor
Did you ever find out the answer to your question? Would like to know this myself as well.
@@Phoenix_1991 not really.. Only bits of info around the web, most ppl seem to say the C is better on some parts, so im not worried 🙃
5:20 Curious to know how did you get to DLDSR resolutions to that value. For my AW3423DW, DLDSR values are at 4587x1920 & 5160x2160 for 1.78x and 2.25x. Did you have multiple monitors connected?
Yes we did at the time actually iirc. Wasn’t focusing on the listed options tbh, just the availability of the section. Often it’s just not there if it’s not supported
Thank you for your prompt response
I can't wait for 34" 3440x1440 360hz oled :D
Have Alienware 34" 175hz oled now
Would this be suitable for some worl/ quotes 70% of the time and gaming 30% of the other time?
This or the mpg module?
MPG 341CQPX review and full comparison coming very soon 😀
Thanks for this and other reviews on this year's new oled. I am currently waiting for the MSI MPG 341CQPX review, will you be able to review it only when it goes on sale (probably in August) or can you possibly do it earlier? Because I noticed that some small MSI partners have already gotten it and have done their reviews on youtube
I'm really looking forward to a review from you including. Tired of waiting for this model because 240 hz is really better than 175 hz. And I'm looking at MSI 271QRX periodically because I'm tired of sitting on my slow VA from xiaomi. Though I realize I'm too used to the 21:9 format and am unlikely to buy a standard 16:9. Too bad only MSI long enough to release this model on 240 hz, 21:9 format :(
We should have that review finished very soon
@@tftcentral Thanks for the reply, glad to hear that you have a review of this monitor already in progress and it's not too long to wait :)
I would love a gen 3/4 panel refresh with this spec. Here's hoping for next year..
there no differnt between this gen 1 qd oled and MPG 271QRX 360 gen 3 .
@@alibohamad8537 This panel still has the gen 1 subpixel structure and lacks the gen 3 anti-burn in feature as far as I understand
Got the monitor and its brilliant. Were you able to get dldsr to work? In most games the resoultion just doesnt aplear because its so odd
Did you find out? I'm thinking of getting but only if I can use gsync and dldsr
Can you look at the Philips EVNIA that just released July/Aug? The 2M6500 QD OLED 175hz with Ambiglow? Theres nothing of it anywhere. And rtings etc dont really review philips. Its cheap though, where I live atleast at €800 down from €1100-1200.
This or Samsung odyssey g8 ultrawide qd oled? Which is better?
Download these settings to import via MSI Gaming Intelligence app is not working. Error: Invalid file.
I think the file format seems to change with different firmware versions annoyingly. Not sure why, sorry about that. Follow the settings manually from the video instead, same end result 🙂
@@tftcentral Probably with the firmware released in November. No problem. tks vry much.
It's realy nice to see the arrivals of ultrawide 34" monitors with a refreshrate of 175hz plus wide gamut, which I don't have on my Acer Predator 32" and I find pretty disturbing. The refresh rate is high enough to not see any flickering anymore. I have however seen a review of a 540hz screen which is a serious step up in experience, described as looking through a window instead of looking at a monitor. At this refresh rate a human does not see any ghosting anymore. There is no real difference between 175hz, 240hz, 360hz. The magic seem to happen above 500hz. This monitor has still many disadvantages, having a 1080p 24" TN panel. But I guess/hope monitors like the MSI MAG 341CQP with 540hz refresh rate aren't that far away anymore.
Is it a dealbreaker they are using gen 1 screen tech???
HDMI or DP for gaming with this monitor???
If your graphics card supports HDMI 2.1, use that as you can then get 175Hz at 10-bit colour depth
Just impulse bought this for £599. I had an ultrawide a while ago but it was only 1440p 75hz IPS. Hoping this will be my endgame monitor now.
Awesome price, let us know how you get on and don’t forget to check out our best settings guide video 😀
Once you go oled you never want to go back
What about the 49 version?
Review here 😀
The biggest OLED Monitor! - MSI MPG 491CQP review
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@@tftcentraljust saw the will release a 240hz version in October
Yes indeed that’s coming soon too. Check out our video coming tomorrow from MSIs Gamescom event where it’s covered 😀
MSI MAG341CQP vs AW3423DWF vs MO34WQC2 which would you go for ?
MAG 341CQP
Is this 175hz , im a tad confused as I see 120hz being branded on the monitor as well ??
Yes 175Hz for PC. 120Hz is listed for modern console support I expect
@@tftcentral Ahh I see thank you for the reply
Nice review!
May I ask how to choose between MEG 342C and this monitor if the prize is the same ?
This is newer and has more modern features, although the panel is the same underneath. Depends if you need any of the features that are extra, or prefer the design I suppose for one over the other
Are there any QD-OLED panels that dont have VRR flickering? What do I have to look for to get one that doesn't suffer from this.
I am using an AMD GPU, if that is relevant.
It’s an inherent challenge with OLED technology. But it really is very variable depending on your system, content, frame rates etc
MSI have recently updated the firmware on their MPG271QRX and MPG321URX, including supposedly improving this but we’ve yet to test that. Worth reading around from owners to see how it’s helped. Asus also updated the firmware on their PG27AQDM so there def seems to be a focus from manufacturers on improving this area
VA panels have a similar issue, best bet to avoid is to go IPS so pick your poison
Is it 3th Gen?
Officially Samsung call it a 2nd gen panel with all the technologies from that gen. But to make life confusing it was released in 2024 alongside their 3rd gen panels, and it has the pixel structure from their 1st gen panels. Super confusing I know
Thank you very much for this video, I have a question... what is the difference between this one and the MEG 342C QD OLED that we can now found at 700€ on MSI website ? which one do you advise ?
The difference is the build quality of the stand. Meg is abit more premium. The mag is perfectly goof though. In your country if its like a small difference than sure get the Meg but if its large than get the mag
so this is a rebranded MAG 342C?
Same panel but new design, features and extras
Hello, i received this monitor yesterday however I am noticing some screen flickering? Seems to be doing this through SDR and HDR with virtual sync on. It come and goes, but its really annoying, any advise on this? Thank you
It’s a challenge on all OLEDs unfortunately. You could try capping your VRR frame rate to avoid as many drastic frame rate swings or just simply turn off adaptive sync and play without it
@tftcentral thank you, just seems strangely odd to sell a product with the option for adaptive sync to enable g-sync.. maybe optional MSI drivers or future geforce updates may fix this?
Update on this... I plugged in the included HDMI cable from my graphics card over to the monitor and even with adaptive sync on this issue has gone completely :) very happy, I know for a fact there wasn't an issue with the DP cable I was using!? Very unsure
Can this be overclocked?
No officially supported overclock mode on this one
Hey, how would you say this compares to the Alienware qd oled ultrawides? I have tried this monitor and it looks way better than the Samsung or Philips qd oled's. Idk how it's possible since it's the same tech but somehow the more budget msi beat the comp for me.
Tell me please. I bought this monitor and besides the native 3440x1440p resolution, there is also a 3840x2160p resolution, did you have the same? Because of this, even modern games do not always run in native resolution, but in 16:9 mode
Yes it supports that resolution mainly so consoles can function fully. I assume you’re connected over HDMI instead of DP? Try switching the OSD setting from console to PC mode for HDMI 😀
@@tftcentral The mode is on the PC, but alas, everything is the same. Also, when DLDSR is enabled, the resolution multiplier comes from 4k, and not from the native 3440x1440p
@kauhu4397 are you using HDMI? Try using DP instead, that should solve it. Other option would be to use a tool like CRU and remove the entry for that resolution in windows. It’s just getting confused as it supports that option but you don’t actually want to use it from the pc. Displayport should work fine too
so super ultrawides got gen 2 panels, tvs got gen 2 then gen 3. 32" and 27" variantsgot gen 3... while this gets gen 2.5??? what
That’s our naming scheme and it’s explained in this video
The latest exciting OLED panel roadmaps
ua-cam.com/video/vSIEQYMjpQ4/v-deo.html
I bought it but keep getting black screens for a couple of seconds 😢
Try a different cable, or change between DP and HDMI
@@tftcentraleventually it came down to the length of my cable 3meter+ I would get artifacts and blackscreens. Now on 1.4dp 3mcable. Maybe you know more about signal loss?
I have a Samsung Odyssey OLED G8 for something about 5 months and recently bought this MSI MAG 341CQP. Have made some side by side tests few days ago.
Didn't you mention that in gray and near black scenes sometimes 341CQP has some noise, like heavy filmgrain effect? And in Windows HDR Calibration at black calibration section in 0.005 (one click right from 0.000) point gray image appears soo bright, like more than five clicks on Odyssey G8. And thats why i think in games like Returnal almost none of blacks (overbrighten image).
The near black shadow detail is raised on this screen yes which makes them a bit brighter
@@tftcentral What about heavy noise effect on gray?
Not something we noticed during our testing and usage tbh
what did you think of the comparison between the two monitors? Was the Samsung less picture quality-wise?
odyssey g8 oled 34 and MSI MAG 341CQP 34 I think you have both monitors.
I plan to buy one of the two and please enlighten me on this issue, which one do you think is better. Which one would you buy?
Hi @tftcentral - I seem to be having some issue with this monitor that I can’t find an answer to. When using hdmi 2.1 and attempting to play games in “full screen”, I’m noticing that the game loads in a smaller window. This problem doesn’t appear in “borderless full screen” and doesn’t appear on other ultrawide dive tested. I’ve made sure that the monitor is set to “pc” mode and have made sure that NVCP is set to “no scaling”. Do you have any feedback on this?
Hey did you fix this?
@@BDZM69 no sir
Looks like it was updated to 1.4a which has a speed of 32.4gb/s
Also another update was its glossy now not semi glossy.
Sorry can you elaborate on what you mean or the impact that has?
just a simple question, which would you go with MSI MAG341CQP vs AW3423DWF ?
I am torn between both. I am a horror perosn, I only watch things that has a lot of dark colours, and blacks. I do a lot of productive thngs like game design, coding, and Visualization so I don't use static elements all teh time. I do game, a lot of horror, but some FPS like Overwatch (Lol OW is dead) and getting to get into Valreant as well
Both are built around the same panel so in many ways will be similar. We prefer the feature set of the MSI so would go with that
@@tftcentral Thank you for the reply.
I just as well found the LG 34GS95QE, any thoughts on that one?
@GothicTech now that one is very different as it’s using a WOLED panel instead of QDOLED. steeper curve, grainier coating but higher refresh rate. We’ve reviewed the Asus equivalent if you want to know more about that panel tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/asus-rog-swift-pg34wcdm
Do you have an opinion on true 10bit versus 8bit + FCR? I'm trying to decide whether to...
a) Use the monitor with 144hz + 10bit HDR over DP
b) Use the monitor with 175Hz + 8bit (FRC) HDR over DP
or maybe even
c) Switch to an HDMI 2.1 cable
I'd appreciate any advice. :) Thanks in advance.
I suppose it really depends what frame rates you’re reaching in your games. If you’re getting over 144Hz, I’d go with the higher refresh rate as I don’t think you’d notice any real difference on the colour depth side of things. Or just use an HDMI 2.1 connection and get both if your graphics card supports it 😀
@@tftcentral Framerate wise 144 is enough for me. 120 is enough for me, which is what I usually set my RTSS fps limit to. I've been running in 144hz mode for quite a while now to be honest.
It's just that your test made me think about your graph with the input lag. Lowest with 175hz, rather terrible with 60hz and me somewhere in between.
But I guess I was thinking wrong there. 175hz withouth the proper fps to back it up will not on it's own give me low input lag, or will it?
@GODzillaGSPB yes it would actually. The lag is linked to the refresh rate you have the screen set to, regardless of your achieved frame rate or VRR situation. Perhaps try 175Hz and see if you notice any difference or not. We didn’t measure it at 144Hz but I suspect it’s a very minor difference if any
@@tftcentral I'll give it a thought.
I'm using the 144hz ceiling to lower fps for games that use Frame Generation. These can easily hit the 168 fps (which is the natural ceiling, imposed by Nvidia reflex I guess, when running 175hz), which usually also maxes out the graphic card, meaning high power consumption and heat.
Setting the monitor to 144hz eases this down a notch. I'm living in a country where air conditioning is uncommon, so saving a bit in terms of heat and power consumption is a plus for me. ^^ Most games running with Frame Generation do not work well when I impose an artificial fps limit (via RTSS for instance), so the "natural" ceiling via monitor frequency is the only way.
So, in short: This probably has more benefits for me than the slightly better input lag with 175hz I guess.
PS: I did notice that you never actually answered my initial question about 8bit + FRC versus 10bit. So I'd like to ask again, do you have any experience with that? I saw no difference with the naked eye, so in general, apart from the very specific idea with the ceiling for FG, 175hz would be the way to go, even over DP. You see it differently? Thanks in advance.
@GODzillaGSPB I don’t think any normal user would see any visual difference between the two
Could you tell me, by any chance, if the thing about input lag with VRR corresponding to that you'd get with a fixed maximum refresh rate also applies to console gaming with VRR enabled?
The lag will correspond to the refresh rate set by the device and won’t be impacted in VRR situations when frame rate lowers
@@tftcentral Thank you so very much for answering! So it won't be the monitor's max refresh rate, of course, since consoles don't support that. Will it be set to the maximum refresh rate supported by both source device and the display, which would be 120 Hz in this case, with input latency being roughly equivalent to that at fixed 120 Hz? Did I get that right and is this how all VRR implementations operate? Or does HDMI VRR work differently compared to FreeSync/G-Sync? Or the displays refresh rate follows the source frame rate with input latency changing with it dynamically, so that if the source won't output in >60 FPS there would be no benefits with VRR enabled in terms of input latency?
I'm sorry for bothering you with these questions, you don't have to bother really.
@juanblanco7898 the input lag will be tied to what is set as the selected refresh rate, as if you weren’t using VRR. So in your example for a console it would align to 120Hz. I don’t think I’ve ever seen VRR add any meaningful additional lag either
Just picked this monitor up in the Uk for £700. However I have a small issue with it I have hooked up the supplied HDMI cable with it put I can only select a refresh rate of 100hz not 175hz in windows, I should I try a better cable?
What graphics card do you have? Quite probable you’ve only got HDMI 2.0 which won’t support any higher.
RTX 4070ti super, I would have thought the monitor would ship with a 2.1 cable.
@timdance426 yeah it does, and your card should be fine. Should work. Check in NVIDIA control panel in case you’re in the tv section instead of pc section. Also maybe try changing via windows display settings instead
I have this monitor. I can set the maximum to 120hz, but then the screen scales to 4k 16:9. At 100hz everything is ok. Tested on rtx 3090 and rx 7900xt and the same. There is no problem with 360hz on msi 271qrx. What could it be?
maybe it's a HDMI limitation, did you try displayport?
You have to switch the monitor setting from console to pc
Hey sir
I have a problem when playing games I can't play full screen... The games always start with 16:9 not 21:9... Do you have any solution??
Do the games actually support that mode and have you configured those correctly in the game settings?
how do you test input lag? because Rtings don't have same number in input lag? for example Input lag MSI MAG 341CQP you have 0,2ms, and Rtings has 2ms...
It’s a tool called SMTT which is designed to isolate the lag of the display only, and compare it to a reference CRT. explained here
tftcentral.co.uk/articles/input_lag
Rtings don’t appear to explain their methodology anywhere that I can see…
Bonjour faut t'il privilégier le hdmi ou le displayport pour atteindre le 175Hz car jai cette ecran que jai branché en displayport mais quand je le met a 175Hz mon affichage saute
If you’re having problems then it will likely be the cable, that’s normally the culprit for signal problems. Try another one if you can. Does your graphics card have HDMI 2.1 output? If so you could use that instead
@@tftcentral j'ai une 4090 et je vais essayer avec le hdmi mes j'aurai aimé pouvoir profiter des avantages du displayport en terme de couleur par rapport au hdmi
15 watts of charging!? What’s the point
Probably more geared towards tablets and phones I suppose
@@tftcentral Yeah, I ordered this on prime day and assumed it would be 65 watts at minimum. Sadly going to have to cancel
@greentwister1 try the MPG 341CQPX model instead if that’s something you need but had settled on the screen otherwise. Very similar overall performance
@@tftcentral Thanks! Having tested it, do you think the OLED panel at 1440p is pixelated at all? I’ll be using mainly for work/coding. I wonder if going for 4K is more futureproof
@greentwister1 what screen size and res do you have at the moment?
Not one for me, but certainly looks like a reasonable monitor
Disappointing amount of demonstration about topics. One that stood out for me is on about the text clarity comparison, but nit showing us anything to go off.
Mag or Meg :))?
MAG. Or maybe the new MPG 240Hz version 😀
I do feel that even DP 2.1 is barely keeping up with the raising monitor uncompressed bandwidth needs. HDMI 2.1 is quite slow by now. I would hope the display connection specs to outpace the needs.
Why no one worries about burn-in on phones but do on TVs and monitors? Aren't they all OLED?
But most of the time your phone screen will be off. You’re unlikely to use it for 6-7 hours continuously for instance
I'd say the 15W downgrade is more than "a bit lower" from the MEG's 65W as is stated in the video. I don't even understand what the 15W is for anyway? To charge your phone? It won't power any laptop that could take advantage of DP Alt mode.
Yep powering tablets perhaps too. Not everyone needs to use USB-C though but definitely one of those things to look out for if you do
i have 2 of thos but i have problem for oled cear and close my moniter and me on middel the game how i fix that
Can you explain that again please?
wakala, first gen qd-oled, destroys my interest
Keep an eye out for a review of the MPG 341CQPX coming hopefully soon with an updated gen 2.5 250Hz QD-OLED panel 👍
@@tftcentral will the monitor be the same price as this one then (do we have price info at this point)? Seems like it wouldn't make sense for MSI to do that.
Do you think its worth waiting a month or a month and a half tops if I'm considering AW3423DWF and Samsung Oddysey G8 right now? (for the new coming monitors)
It will be more expensive no doubt but final pricing is still TBC
this surely can't be considered the best when the pg34wcdm exists?
That’s discussed in the video. We prefer this for several reasons, despite the lower refresh rate. Screen coating, text clarity, curve steepness and price!
Funny how we all draw different conclusions. Anything with a 800R WOLED panel, like that Asus monitor, would be at the very bottom of my OLED shopping list.
@tftcentral fair call, if you were to disregard the curvature, text clarity and price does that make the pg34wcdm a better choice?
@a5cent yeah I actually preferred the more aggressive curve so that's very true
@@Vaznazza
I struggled to answer your question because a lot of subjective opinions go into defining what counts as a "better monitor".
A competitive gamer might say the 240Hz refresh rate on the Asus is better, but the vast majority of humans will never be able to tell a difference. Also, the sort of competitive gamer who cares about that cares nothing about color or viewing angles or anything beyond refresh rates, so they would be looking for a 27" 400Hz monitor. None of them are shopping for 34" ultrawides.
WOLED achieves higher brightness, so the Asus would be slightly better for HDR content, but that gets into an area similar to the coating you wanted to disregard.
Ultimately, if you like and want the 800R curvature, then none of the QD-OLED monitors matter. None of them can ever be better for you.
I will stick with miniled 2k 180 hz ...cant justify expensive oled
bur vrr flicker is horrendus
I'm sure Samsung oled is better.
Which Samsung OLED do you mean?
@@tftcentral 😆 🤣
🫤
@@tftcentral g8
NEO G9
It’s curved, so by definition it can’t be “the best”
Name me a 34” OLED that isn’t curved 🤔😀
Confusing this with a 32" 16:9 monitor?