As the owner of an early 30’s Alvis I can confirm the truth of this statement. She gets extremely grumpy when pressed to do anything other than what she wishes to do, whereas if cajoled a little she’s a great deal more amenable to delivering her occupants, intact and relatively unstirred, to their intended destination. 😁
For mirrors you might want to consider motorcycle mirrors mounted through the hinge replacing the hinge pin. That way you can return to original at any point .
Got to love those flower vases, what a quality touch. The reason you only got 45 MPH is you left the cigar hatch up so it was acting like an air brake.
FYI you shouldn’t have to shut off the fuel, the old carb needs to be rebuilt if it’s leaking by. They are easier to start if you bump the timing and then put it back to normal afterwards. Does it have a choke that you can also turn to adjust the idle speed? The Ford model A had the choke used for adjusting idle by turning the knob. You use it during start up to bump up the idle speed when cold. Beautiful car, Enjoy.
@MrHewes the model A Ford has a enrichment setting for low revs. You turn the choke knob to open an adjustable jet. The Packard are a awesome vintage car. Each one has its own temperance, just like a child! You will have fun learning it's quirks! G'day from Tasmania
You now own a Bentley AND A Packard😍. By modern standards, both are TANKS, so it’s lovely to see you are still “in your wheelhouse” as the saying goes. Lovely bit of kit! What a babe❤
Quote Leno, did not matter in those days, the fuel just ran onto the ground. I have a little experience with updraft carbs and they all do it to some degree.
Just want to say, @Mr.Hewes you’ve become by far my favorite content creator. You’ve not monetized your channel with ads, and you’re not jamming merch down anyones throat. I guarantee the audience notices - you genuinely love what you do. Thank you so much for sharing it with us. Also, just saying I would 100% buy a piece of t - 34 engine from you. Keep up the amazing content work, and don’t change!!!
To Drk Walters Tell me, what do you mean, T 34 engine? My all time favourite car, the second model Karmann-Ghia was called a Type 34. Is THAT what you are referring to?
You CERTAINLY can't avoid having mirrors in today's traffic! BUT make the most of it - I'm sure you could even ENHANCE this beautiful car with some chrome mirrors!
In the early days of motoring, good quality oils were not mineral based but were plant based, such as castor oil. Their big disadvantage is that they generate quite viscous products after heating and cooling. To overcome that, petcocks were installed in the head to introduce fuel to help soften the deposits as well as providing substantial enrichment to aid cold starting. 1923 is close to the end of the need for them, as mineral oils began their ascendancy.
Ah the heady whiff of hot castrol as the revs... mumble mumble (ill fitting false fangs adjusted)... When I wer't a nipper! Nurse! Is my bedbath ready? Anyway isn't it time for my medication?
All I could find online was the following about the wipers..... The vacuum-operated windshield wiper system on a 1923 Packard Six Sedan works as follows: The system utilizes engine vacuum created during the intake stroke of the engine cylinders. Vacuum is drawn from the engine's intake manifold through a small tube connected to the wiper motor. The wiper motor contains two cylinders with leather washers that act as pistons. As vacuum is applied to one cylinder, it pulls that piston, which is connected to a rack gear. The rack gear meshes with a pinion gear attached to the wiper arm shaft, converting the linear motion into rotational motion to move the wiper arm. A slide valve alternates the vacuum between the two cylinders, creating the back-and-forth motion. A small lever is provided to allow manual operation when there is insufficient vacuum. The system typically includes a vacuum storage tank to maintain more consistent wiper operation, especially during acceleration when engine vacuum drops. Drawbacks included the wipers slowing or stopping during hard acceleration when engine vacuum decreased. This vacuum-powered system was an early automatic wiper design, before electric motors became the standard. While ingenious, it had limitations in maintaining consistent wiper speed across different driving conditions. It also says about a Lucas CW1 or CWX wiper motor which i believe were on early series 1 land rovers.
The first indicator was built in 1925, but only around 38 they really became popular. And atleast in germany only in 1967 were car manufacturers obligated to put them on cars. A mirror on the drivers side were required since 1925 afaik. I dont think it would ruin putting mirrors on because at the end of the day it just helps. You could probably get some similar to the Model A which would look period correct
Do the car and yourself a good turn. Add mirrors. Also keep an oilcan with a 25% fresh oil 75% gasoline mix. Use it every morning before starting. A tiny bit is enough. 2-3 drops per cylinder. Also purchase the expensive spark plugs that can be disassembled for cleaning. Keep a set of plugs and wrench ready to use in the vehicle at all times. Also keep a can of pressured oil to use each time before removing spark plugs. Don't forget several very clean rags in double plastic bags. If everything is passing you as you motor your doing it correctly. This does 3 things. 1 it makes up for low tech brakes. 2 more importantly it allows everyone to see the rolling beauty. 3 most important of all it allows everyone else to display proper jealousy over the fact that YOU are a man of LEISURE. NOT constrained or controlled by the schedules of ANYONE. Please remember arriving 4-6 minutes early or late is a status symbol. And NEVER arrive with a crooked bow tie. CONGRATULATIONS on your purchase of the finest engine ever made.
That black, cylinder on the fire wall of your Packard is a vacuum, fuel “pump”. As the gas runs out it makes a vacuum that pulls gas up from the tank. It keeps doing that as you motor down the road. They are very reliable when prepared properly. Some chaps will cut a door in the body of the vac pump and stick an electric pump inside and viola, your all set. Love your chann mate, thank you.
IMO, Packards of the 1920s and 1930s are absolutely beautiful and had very advanced engineering for the time. A few points. Okay, a few more than a few points: That tank on the firewall is called the vacuum tank. Engine vacuum sucks fuel from the tank in the back into the vacuum tank, which then feeds the carb by gravity. Mechanical fuel pumps hadn't been invented yet. Stewart (of Stewart-Warner gauges) made piles of vacuum tanks back in the day. The carburetor has a slightly leaky needle and seat - you should be able to leave it for a few minutes, but be sure to shut off the fuel valve if leaving it for several hours. Those strange thimble things on the head are called priming cups. He's correct about their purpose. Electric starters were introduced on the 1912 Cadillac, and were virtually universal by 1923. Even Henry Ford had given up and offered them - but as an option! The first US car to have turn signals was the 1939 Buick. It only had them on the back, but had front signal lights added in 1940. Most US cars did not have front brakes until the late 1920s. Virtually all of them were mechanically operated (not hydraulic). This brake system was pretty advanced for the time. If you think these brakes are crap, try a Model T Ford! The ignition timing had to be adjusted manually. It had to be fully retarded while starting, and dropped back some on steep hills. Automatic timing advance was still in the future, so you had to advance and retard the spark lever as speed and engine load dictated. The other lever on the steering wheel is a throttle lever, to give you fast idle. There is a key for the ignition, but it simply prevents you from turning the ignition switch to the on position. Apparently the key got lost, but it's in the unlocked position, so no big deal. He had trouble starting it because of not being able to use a choke. The Detroit Lubricator carburetor was typically used on high end cars. It's an updraft carburetor - virtually universal for the era - so fuel has to sucked against gravity to reach the cylinders. That's where the priming cups come in handy for cold starts. Detroit Lubricator patented a "fuelizer", filed in 1921. It appears to be an early version of an automatic cold start enrichment device, though it's not a choke like we think of. Packard references the fuelizer in their 1925 brochure. It appears this carburetor didn't have a choke plate like we think of. So, getting to it to work properly might be a bit tricky. I would have to look up the details (I think I have a book here that describes the carburetor.) patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f0/c6/92/e87df8f1bb77a7/US1470756.pdf oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Packard/1925_Packard/1925_Packard_Single_Six_Brochure/1925%20Packard%20Single%20Six-08.html That starter is actually cranking fairly quickly for the era. Yes, it's a 3 speed unsynchronized transmission. The windshield wiper operates on engine vacuum, and vacuum wiper motors are notoriously temperamental. The target market was wealthy customers, but not all were bootleggers or other gangsters. (Yes, I know you were joking.) 45 mph was plenty fast for 1923. It might do 50 if in top tune. But, 35-40 is a better idea. Packards were solidly engineered, but don't push your luck. All in all, a good video.
Update to my previous comment: The books I have do not cover this early Detroit carburetor. However, it appears the fuelizer mentioned above was only used briefly before switching back to a traditional choke valve. You should double-check whether the carburetor you have does not have a choke valve (someone may have changed carburetors). Carburetors of this era did not have accelerator pumps. From what I've been able to determine, this is also true of the Detroit Lubricator. Therefore, pumping the accelerator pedal does not accomplish anything in terms of priming the engine. (Obviously, working the accelerator pump via the pedal puts a shot of raw fuel into the manifold.) For the time being - until you get this sorted out, you probably should use the priming cups during cold-engine starts. The best place in the US to find rebuild kits and a wealth of information on these early carburetors is thecarburetorshop.com . John is a walking encyclopedia of carburetion, and knows things about early carburetors you'll not find elsewhere. To network with other Packard owners, you should consider joining packardinfo.com .
I'm from New Zealand but reside in Australia and enjoy every release of you rebuilding tanks and other machines with the help of your friends or workers. Now you own a Packard built in England. I know you will take care of it. Enjoy
Regarding how you check the oil, you may also find that it has no oil filter. My 1941 Chevrolet offered it only as an option so it wasn’t standard until after WWII. You were simply expected to change the oil every 2000 miles and considering the shorter distances generally driven during that time, that was sufficient. Also, I’ve found that the vault-like closing of the doors is fairly common on cars that had the metal over wood body construction. It lends a solidity to it. And lastly, on your vacuum wipers, try running a little Marvel Mystery Oil through them (it). Just allow the engine vacuum to pull it through, it’ll burn in the engine just fine (may even do the engine a bit of good) and will lubricate the seals in the wipers. This was a common maintenance task in the day. Wonderful car!
Where you have no filter system, it is common to use a single grade oil e..g. SAE30. The crud then precipitates out and is (more or less) flushed out with the 2000 mile oil change as mentioned above. Using a multigrade keeps the crud in suspension so that the filter can take it out. Not a good idea to have crud circulating if there is no filter to take it out.
You are going to have a big learning curve with the brakes, it is a vacuum tank type fuel system that is where the rev before shutting down came from, enjoy and use it often they are made to be used
From another random old bloke, you are understating the problem with the brakes. Oh memories of ditches and poor brakes after going through a ford. Vacuum fuel accumulator is my thought. That is a very nice motor and he is fortunate that the lights still have the lenses. Best
Mr Hewes yet again a very good relevant video -now don’t let my comments go to your head but I really enjoyed that bit of history as I do all your videos thank you as always - oh I look forward to receive and winning the W11 Jeep I know no chance regards to old Ted plz Chrs Malc uk 🇬🇧
What a Car ! We have one next to our village. The old Man owns ist since 1968. Still running fine ! His Packard has Mirrors mounted on the axel of the middle Door hinge.👍
Superb. My Aunts had a 1934 Packard Saloon. Straight 8. Looks like a gangster car. Used it for my first marriage vehicle. Just as many whistles and bells. Even the tool kit was complete. Lots of luxury and old musty smell as standard.
You're not alone last year I got a 93 year old Model A Ford 4 door Town Sedan, with similar features although not as posh as a Packard. Gravity fuel supply that has to be turned off when you park it, and remember to turn it on before you start it. My Ford has front brakes too, I keep a long distance to vehicles ahead! My side lights have been converted to indicators, essential in modern traffic! And I see you do have an interior mirror that's all you need! What you do get with Vintage motoring is respect and kindness from fellow drivers, which is a revelation these pushy days. And you have proven Derek Mattewson of Bangers & Cash wrong! Young guys do buy very old cars! Enjoy!
I adore vintage cars, there's something I just love seeing how rudimentary and bare bones pre and post war cars were before many of the laws and regulations we have now were instated, not to mention they just have a very classy look too them. There's only so many left in the world that haven't been cut up into rat/hot rods or scrapped, so it's always nice to still see some vintage cars out and about. Glad this popped up in my recommended, I'm excited to watch more of your videos on this Packard Six
The "generator" is a dynamo, all devices that produce electricity from rotating electromagnetic force are generators. The valves on top of the cylinders are priming cups, this was necessary back then due to the thick and gummy lubricants that were used at the time. The stuff tended to congeal around the rings and stick to the cylinder wall which made starting difficult, particularly at low temperature, made worse with the low compression in use then. Shouldn't be necessary to use them now with modern lubricants. Nice car.
9:10 Modern distributors (at least when cars still had them) have a centrifugal advance mechanism. At the engine revs rise the engine needs more ignition advance and the centrifugal advance supplies it (bob weights and springs). Your car's engine has no such mechanism so as the engine revs rise you need to manually give it more advance on that lever in the middle of the steering wheel.
You have to adjust the timing on the steering wheel control to get best performance. Low revs retard, more avance for higher speeds, full retard for very slow tickover. You have to get an ear for this to set the timing so the engine is happy. On some engines ther is a notcable difference in sound and power if you alter advance at a set throttle position. If you get "pinking", (preignition sound) alter the timing until it goes away. My engine has bobweight auto timing and manual adjustment at the steering wheel ..Yours is a cracking beautiful car. The first 5 years of appreticship are the worst....
You are really going to enjoy owning the Packard Joe. I have owned this type of vehicle all my life. Fuel pump is called an autovac. It is super simple, as the engine turns over it sucks a large diaphragm in the autovac which in turn sucks the fuel from the tank. Thats why you need to turn the fuel off to keep enough fuel in the system to create a vacuum. Panhard had similar problems with dumping fuel onto the road in the 1920s and 1930’s, they never could solve their basic design fault in their carbs, they had made the float level higher than the jet, so it always leaked fuel. They even plumbed in an overflow fuel system, completely bonkers. The little taps for each cylinder are called priming taps. Mirrors, an absolute must, plenty available have a look round. More importantly, if you run over a cyclist they might scratch your paint…. and cyclists aren’t insured!
Did not know Packard built some of their cars in England. But Rolls-Royce briefly built cars in Springfield Massachusetts so there you have it! Also Rolls-Royce selected Packard to build Merlin V12 aircraft engines in America. Another fun fact Enzo Ferrari benchmarked the Colombo V12 on the basic architecture of the Packard V12.
My guess is that 3rd gear is 1:1 or close to it and it has straight cut gears. Straight cut gears get significantly quieter the closer to 1:1 you get ❤ what a lovely old vehicle
@@TurbineResearch That’s interesting. I wouldn’t have thought and never knew the ratio would have been a factor in the noise. I assumed first and second were straight cut to reduce the axial load helical cut puts on the casing when there’s a lot of acceleration happening and the cruising 3rd gear was helical cut as there’s not much acceleration to be had when you get to it 🤣
@@EeekiEThey weren't merely straight cut, they were non-synchro sliding gears as well. Third gear got a LOT of acceleration actually. In those days, most cars couldn't even reach 60 mph. This made 0-60 times rather impossible. Before this, what automakers did was compare how well their vehicles could pull away from idle whilst in top gear. It was quite clever. A shorter top gear mean smoother acceleration, but lower top speed. A higher top gear meant better speed, but required a more powerful engine to accomplish. In this time, fewer gears were desirable since it meant the luxury of less work. So, third gear typically saw the most use by a significant margin, even under varying speeds.
Top gear is direct drive, no gears involved. American cars were built with large, flexible engines that required almost no gear changing once they got going. You can slow down to a walking pace in top and pull away without bucking or stalling, if the engine is in good shape. Only time you need to drop down to second is on a very steep hill .
The fuel pump is vacuum operated ( vacuum transfer ) it's said they are not very good in hilly terrain because going uphill you lose manifold vacuum with open throttle and they don't work. There are different types but very basically it has a float valve system, when empty the air vent is closed and vacuum valve opened , when full vacuum valve closed air vent open, the carb is then gravity fed through a non return valve, some have a built in reservoir so the carb does not run dry while it's filling.
Congratulations on your purchase! The temperature gauge on the radiator is known as a 'Motometer' but that was originally a brand name adopted to all types. The individual petcocks on each cylinder are called 'Priming Cups', there main purpose was, as you stated to prime the cylinders.. The small lights were referred to as "side lamps' and were used when in light built-up areas, the main headlights were only lit where street lighting did not exist. In use learn to become aware of the various sounds made by the vehicle so that you can spot a problem before it becomes major. I have always driven historic cars as every-day transport. I live close to Melbourne in Australia and have done some quite long-distant drives such as all the way across to Perth a round trip of about 5,000 miles and a trip to Cairns, a similar distance- all in a 1928 Model A Ford toeing a trailer and with 2 small children on board. Currently I run a 1950 and a 1959 Rover.
That's a lovely motor - no sensors, no ECU, no bollocks just excellent engineering. It looks the mut's nuts too. Who's going to walk in front with a red flag?
i was going to say the same. thanks. sure it's nice to know where the timing should be for starting and getting going, but "real motorists" should know how to use them ;-)
The brake linkage is like that because back then they didn't actually have effective bowden style cables. You'll see that the rest of the linkage isn't actually cables it's rods.
You have a wonderful automobile! About the smell/humidity; get some shallow bowls, and place a cup of fresh unused coffee-grounds into each. Set them on the floor, one in front and one in back. The coffee-grounds will absorb moisture, and provide a nice aroma. You might consider trying it in some of your more uparmored vehicles as well!
If you get an air ionizer, it will do a good job killing the musty odors if you run it in the car for an hour or two. Might help with Jack's cologne as well.
My Grandad had an old Ford Consul with similar handling problems. It was running on cross ply tyres, we changed them to radials and it improved it quite a bit.
They were originally made here in detroit and fun fact most of the factory is still here and we as kids use to go in and explore it. So many pictures in there. They were and are really nice cars.
Packard started in Indiana, originally, then moved to Detroit. There really isn't much left of the plant besides the physical structure, and it is currently being demolished due to spending decades banded and neglected. Packard was the first to put in their own proving grounds and that still remains. It still gets used for car related events.
I am not particularly mechanically minded but love your videos for their interesting content and entertainment value. Great hearing about that lovely car.
2:05 "this thing here" is called a Vacuum tank, it draws vacuum off the intake and uses it to suck fuel up into its self and then drops it into the carb, my 1927 Chev had one, mine no longer holds vacuum so im going to switch to an electric fuel pump
Well done lad. You must keep that car for the remainder of your life. It is epic and will become an old friend for sure. Love it. By the way gas is short for gasoline. We are not all, well mostly not all daft. Cheers mate.
Fair play to you mr h for keeping your feet on the ground and bringing the older yesteryear vehicles back to life.yes you could do vids on lambos,ferrarris etc but for a young age your so enjoyable and interesting to watch,thankyou 👊❤️
Really great condition Packard six. - hand crank went out i the US after the war 1919 for the Model T. An early 'goddess of Speed' hood ornament. The Thompson machine gun is properly referred to in Packard circles as a 'Chicago typewriter'.
This model is called a 'closed' car because the sides are not open and the roof doesn't collapse. Since it had no side mirrors, you could use reproduction side mirrors from a Model A Ford which would be period and not make it look bad. They are easily obtained, and would mount on the windshield post support or the door. The wiper is vacuum system. Probably have a bad hose or the mechanism might be broken or stuck. Having driven older cars with vacuum wipers, they are always very weak. Packards are nice cars.
My Father and Mother used to drive Packard's in America. Both of them were convinced they were much better and nicer cars than any other car in the world. ( 1950 - 1965 ) You seem to make it look like the perfect ride for a English Bloke on the town! I am proud of you! ( And your other rides as well )
When Packard Speed tested the car. They did just the chassis and running gear. The body would later be put on by a coach builder. So technically they were not lying, they just were not taking in the effects of aerodynamics.
Might be worth asking the national motor museum Beaulieu about mirrors, and English builds etc. A long time ago I did see a Packard there, it did have door mirrors.
What a fantastic vintage car, really enjoyed you telling us about it, just need a violin case with a Thompson 9mm submachine gun in it on the back seat.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
A dynamo is a very different device from a generator or alternator. That is like calling a diesel engine a gasoline one. Similar, but with important distinctions.
Not sure if anyone has commented on the tank in the engine compartment but it is a autovac unit to pump the petrol to the carburettor . The valves on the head are used as you say to get fuel into the engine because the autovac unit works off of vacuum when engine is running for a minute or so . I believe you can put petrol in the autovac unit to prime engine .
the fuel cups on top of the cylinder head is your cold start fuel enrichment. it was not designed for starting a fuel starved carburetor. cool car I have to say.
Don't use Easistart, as it has no lubricative qualities, washes the bore dry and wears out the rings in VERY short order (which is why people say engines get 'addicted' to the wretched stuff).
The radiator cap temperature indicator was quite common in the era; a common brand was the Boyce Motometer. The electric self-starter had actually been around for a fair amount of time in 1924. If memory serves, it was first featured on the 1912 Cadillac. Until the introduction of the electric self-starter, steam, electric and gas-engined cars shared the market. The self-starter rendered steam and electric cars instantly uncompetitive. The foot-pedal starter was a clever device. When depressed, the foot-pedal starter switch both made an electrical contact and moved the starter pinion to engage the flywheel. It was still found on the 1948 Chevy pickup we had when I was small.
Unless you plan on competing in Concours events or putting it in a museum, don't worry about making sensible modifications like adding mirrors. This was from the time of the dawn of popular car culture. Modifying and customizing was as popular then as it is now. People back then did all kinds of crazy stuff. If you plan on using it as a reasonably regular road car, make it as comfortable and safe as suits you.
'Gas' is short for 'gasolene' as 'petrol' is short for petroleum. Called 'gasolene' because it was a refined form of petroleum that easily vapourised for use in carburettors. And now you know!
...have you thought about a 12 volt ionizer for your Packard? They are fairly cheap, and take away any mustiness from the car's interior. They are available from the likes of Supercheap (in Australia), or most car accessory outlets. I have one in my car because of my dogs, and it runs either from the cigarette lighter outlet, or off the built-in solar panel. Hope this helps. Love your show. 🙂
I was a volunteer for the Canadian Historical Aviation Society now Canadian Aviation Museum restoring Lancaster FM212 in Windsor sister to FM213 flying in Hamilton Ontario we had Packard built 225 merlins. There was a Packard assembly plant in Detroit 4 min drive across the bridge or tunnel depending what you took, us Canadians and Americans pronounce it packrrrrrrrdddd not packaaaaddd. Its interesting to me to see the UK pronounceiation of things. Hopefully you're having a great day joe and the crew cheers 🍻
Shit now I feel old. That thing's never 100 years old! It's got windows, inflatable tyres and all sorts! The bloody Benz Patent-Motorwagen, that's what a 100 year old car looks like! Oh wait it's not 1985 any more 😞
The big hurdle with driving something like this is to get over the need to keep it tracking dead straight and true. If you try to keep it absolutely on a steady line you’ll be fighting it all the time and you’ll be exhausted by the time you get where you’re going. If you relax and let it wander a little, you’ll find that it doesn’t actually need much steering input to keep it going in the right direction and you’ll be much more relaxed when you’re driving it. Lovely old thing though. Nice to see it being driven and enjoyed.
Beautiful car and coachwork , we have a 1928 Rolls Phantom 1 limousine in the family 59 years, 1928 with very similar features , bought by my brother when he was 19 .You should find easier changing up if you change into top a little sooner , the engine develops so much torque it will take it with no problem , changing down is a little trickier , but not at fast road speed and blip the throttle to synchronise engine and road speed. to get a silent change .All part of the fun so good to see a young person interested in such a grand old high quality car .You should be able to find good quality period mirrors to fit on the A pillars .The wiper is I assume vaccum operated , check piping to the inlet manifold has no breaks or leaks.
4:20 Those are called priming cups. The way they work is you fill the cup with the valve closed, then open it to let the fuel drop into the cylinder. This ensure that every cylinder has the correct amount of fuel.
Lovely Car. I never knew Packard made cars in the UK. Fascinating. A few helpers if I may. The Ammeter looks broken, this is common. Either the needle has come away from it's seat or a centring spring is broken, it can be taken apart and repaired with care. Checking the electrical system is charging is simple, just rev the engine and check the battery voltage. Be aware though that cars of this era often didn't have voltage regulators, so the battery voltage may not settle. If there is no charge, check for a voltage regulator, failing that checking the dynamo is not hard. Remove from the car and see if it motors when voltage is applied (you'll need to check the internal connections to know how to wire up. There are a lot of people online who give instructions on this). If not it probably needs flashing. This can be done and does not need special tools. The cups on top of the engine are "priming cups". Don't use them as they are notorious for leaking. The carb looks like it has a tickler on the top of the float bowl to assist with cold starting. The tank is a balance tank to ensure the carburettor has a constant head of fuel and therefore runs at its best. the fuel pumps of the day were typically vacuum or air pumps, and not constant pressure.
There was a lot of back and forth,back when. Rolls Royce had a US manufacture in Springfield for a number of years. Ohio ? Not sure,but Springfield Rolls are a thing amongst US collectors.
Flashing, many a dynamo scraped because they had lost residual magnetism, only old duffers know of this magic. Regulator, what an oxymoron that is amazing you can still get new old stock and I would advise the CAV not the Lucas.
@@paulmanson253 Springfield Massachusetts . Springfield Ohio is famous for having a diverse cuisine , delicious dishes like feline Fricassee, canine ala Mode and various water fowl dishes such as Ohio fried duck.
The rope in the rear is for actually helping you get out the chair to leave the car especially ladies you pull on it due to the heels and dresser’s. Change that isolation valve On The fuel to electrical and put a switch h in the cab. Put a. Bowl with salt in it that will take all moister out stop black mould
Wonderful. Wiper, just move the slide lever yourself. Speed, adjust timing and fuel there on the wheel. Shifting, unless from a start, remaining shifts won't need the clutch as you can just "float" the gears and they will mesh. Delicate procedure as you don't need to man handle shift lever to do so, 2 finger touch with light pressure puts it into next gear when rpms match the transmission gears. Downshift is same just add rpms between gears to get the mesh. Just like you can do with the foden. Hope you keep this beautiful car forever.
What a coincidence! Yesterday I also bought a vintage car, a Fiat 522C from 1931 sporting a ~2.5l straight 6 developing a neck-breaking ~52BHP(in 1931). Just like you, I got my love for pre-war cars from the Mafia series of games(I had Mafia 2 when I was a wee lad) and being able to finally own one of my very own is a dream come true.
I believe the little cylinder cups with 90 degree valves are simply called "starting cups". If you haven't used the car in a while it will start much faster and save your starter. Those brakes might just need adjustment. When they are out of adjustment the car will pull too. Thanks for sharing this one. It looks to be in nice condition.
Hi Joe, I have been watching your videos with interest because my late brother was a tank driver (Centurion) then you put up your video of your Packard. My father used to be chauffer to Mr Godfrey Leighton hotelier of The Royal George Hotel Knutsford pre 1939 driving a Packard. Post war Mr Leighton paid for. my mother to go into a private nursing home to deliver a son, yours truly, Godfrey Walton.
Far funnier than Clarkson Hammond may. "If you want to look at your feet" The other use for the rear interior hand strap was true Joe subtleness 😂. Nice review.
The vacuum petrol pumps are a nightmare. On the various vintage Bentleys I had, I would always bypass them and use one electric pump on the 4½ litre 4 cylinder cars and two pumps on the Speed Six 6½ litre cars. I would leave the Autovac mounted on the bulkhead but just bypass it. They have a nasty habit of running you out of fuel in the worst possible time, like on a motorway, where there is insufficient vacuum being generated to pump enough fuel. For the generator, it may just need "flashing" to re-magnetise it - make sure you do it with the correct polarity, probably positive earth but some US cars of the period were negative earth - check. . Also the relays on older regulators are notorious for sticking, which may also be part of the problem.
Mr Hewes, you are a good lad, and the Packard is a classic and beautiful automobile. The windshield wiper is probably operated by a vacuum system and only works when the engine is running. So check the lines if you can find out where it is located. As for mirrors, you might consider looking at other models of the Packard to get an idea how to solve the issue. Best success to your ownership of this lovely classic. You have managed to brake in a situation when you know the roads near you, and if you find out an improvement on the brakes then venture out further.
What a great old car. I’m glad you’re not into super cars. There are enough people on UA-cam who do that. It does get boring watching channels with super cars that most people can’t afford. Don’t get me wrong , I like fast cars but your channel by far is my favourite channel. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Packed are wonderful cars, and the Roaring 20's had some real beauties rolling out of the Packard plants. One of the most beautiful autos I've ever seen was a 1928 Packard limousine in all black. I agree, the carburetor needs looking into very soon. Either the float is sinking in the gas, or the needle's seat is gummed up. This will result in a rich mixture, quite possibly rinsing oil iff the cylinder walls. The generator may need the field winding re-flashed, new brushess or the external regulator is not working (open contacts or burnt coil) You probably know this, but in WWII Packard built Merlin engines for the P-51 Mustangs, which escorted Lancaster bombers far into Germany. You may even find Packard made engines resurrected as Meteor motors in tanks! Best regards from across the pond in the land of gators!
I think you got a great deal on this at the auction. Tgey apparently have a worm gear steering box and kingpins like an old 356 or 1st gen beetle both of which are prone to wear. This could be exacerbating your steering issues. So much car . Love the bar
The role of the driver in this sort of cars is to give the vehicle polite suggestions
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As the owner of an early 30’s Alvis I can confirm the truth of this statement.
She gets extremely grumpy when pressed to do anything other than what she wishes to do, whereas if cajoled a little she’s a great deal more amenable to delivering her occupants, intact and relatively unstirred, to their intended destination. 😁
The steering wheel is used purely in an advisory capacity.
....brakes are on negotiable terms.
Could you please slow down? ( car explodes)
For mirrors you might want to consider motorcycle mirrors mounted through the hinge replacing the hinge pin. That way you can return to original at any point .
He could also mount a small mirror off the top mount for the sun visor. There is a bolt there already.
Such a good idea
The upper class never said mirrors - it's a looking glass. (True )
However he mounts the mirrors, he should do his best to make them look period correct.
@@Lindsay1050 good thinking
Got to love those flower vases, what a quality touch. The reason you only got 45 MPH is you left the cigar hatch up so it was acting like an air brake.
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Cigar hatch? I thought it was an aerofoil to stop the car taking off at speed! 😂😂
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The whole car is an airbrake lol
I am glad to see that at such a young age you are a gentleman of taste, what a fantastic machine.
FYI you shouldn’t have to shut off the fuel, the old carb needs to be rebuilt if it’s leaking by. They are easier to start if you bump the timing and then put it back to normal afterwards. Does it have a choke that you can also turn to adjust the idle speed? The Ford model A had the choke used for adjusting idle by turning the knob. You use it during start up to bump up the idle speed when cold. Beautiful car, Enjoy.
Its comments like these I love. Maybe we should investigate the carburettor in a future video and the charging system
@MrHewes the model A Ford has a enrichment setting for low revs. You turn the choke knob to open an adjustable jet. The Packard are a awesome vintage car. Each one has its own temperance, just like a child! You will have fun learning it's quirks! G'day from Tasmania
If it’s an updraft carb then a common thing
You now own a Bentley AND A Packard😍.
By modern standards, both are TANKS, so it’s lovely to see you are still “in your wheelhouse” as the saying goes.
Lovely bit of kit! What a babe❤
Quote Leno, did not matter in those days, the fuel just ran onto the ground. I have a little experience with updraft carbs and they all do it to some degree.
Just want to say, @Mr.Hewes you’ve become by far my favorite content creator. You’ve not monetized your channel with ads, and you’re not jamming merch down anyones throat. I guarantee the audience notices - you genuinely love what you do. Thank you so much for sharing it with us. Also, just saying I would 100% buy a piece of t - 34 engine from you.
Keep up the amazing content work, and don’t change!!!
Well said sir.
And what fabulous vids too
Agreed, the only channel my son will sit and watch with me haha.
Mr Hewes is how UA-cam was at the beginning, just people sharing what they are doing.
To Drk Walters
Tell me, what do you mean, T 34 engine?
My all time favourite car, the second model Karmann-Ghia was called a Type 34. Is THAT what you are referring to?
You CERTAINLY can't avoid having mirrors in today's traffic!
BUT make the most of it - I'm sure you could even ENHANCE this beautiful car with some chrome mirrors!
In the early days of motoring, good quality oils were not mineral based but were plant based, such as castor oil. Their big disadvantage is that they generate quite viscous products after heating and cooling. To overcome that, petcocks were installed in the head to introduce fuel to help soften the deposits as well as providing substantial enrichment to aid cold starting. 1923 is close to the end of the need for them, as mineral oils began their ascendancy.
From CASTOR oil came the company known as Castrol !!! Simples.
Ah the heady whiff of hot castrol as the revs... mumble mumble (ill fitting false fangs adjusted)... When I wer't a nipper!
Nurse! Is my bedbath ready? Anyway isn't it time for my medication?
All I could find online was the following about the wipers.....
The vacuum-operated windshield wiper system on a 1923 Packard Six Sedan works as follows:
The system utilizes engine vacuum created during the intake stroke of the engine cylinders.
Vacuum is drawn from the engine's intake manifold through a small tube connected to the wiper motor.
The wiper motor contains two cylinders with leather washers that act as pistons.
As vacuum is applied to one cylinder, it pulls that piston, which is connected to a rack gear.
The rack gear meshes with a pinion gear attached to the wiper arm shaft, converting the linear motion into rotational motion to move the wiper arm.
A slide valve alternates the vacuum between the two cylinders, creating the back-and-forth motion.
A small lever is provided to allow manual operation when there is insufficient vacuum.
The system typically includes a vacuum storage tank to maintain more consistent wiper operation, especially during acceleration when engine vacuum drops.
Drawbacks included the wipers slowing or stopping during hard acceleration when engine vacuum decreased.
This vacuum-powered system was an early automatic wiper design, before electric motors became the standard. While ingenious, it had limitations in maintaining consistent wiper speed across different driving conditions.
It also says about a Lucas CW1 or CWX wiper motor which i believe were on early series 1 land rovers.
The first indicator was built in 1925, but only around 38 they really became popular. And atleast in germany only in 1967 were car manufacturers obligated to put them on cars. A mirror on the drivers side were required since 1925 afaik. I dont think it would ruin putting mirrors on because at the end of the day it just helps. You could probably get some similar to the Model A which would look period correct
Also about the gas thing, I agree with ya, but gas is just short for gasoline :D
Well, for mirrors, he could put on mirrors from, perhaps, a Packard?
@@danielhomant2832 Fair point lol. Im not so well versed in Packards so didnt know they even offerend any.
Do the car and yourself a good turn.
Add mirrors.
Also keep an oilcan with a 25% fresh oil 75% gasoline mix.
Use it every morning before starting.
A tiny bit is enough. 2-3 drops per cylinder.
Also purchase the expensive spark plugs that can be disassembled for cleaning.
Keep a set of plugs and wrench ready to use in the vehicle at all times.
Also keep a can of pressured oil to use each time before removing spark plugs.
Don't forget several very clean rags in double plastic bags.
If everything is passing you as you motor your doing it correctly.
This does 3 things.
1 it makes up for low tech brakes.
2 more importantly it allows everyone to see the rolling beauty.
3 most important of all it allows everyone else to display proper jealousy over the fact that YOU are a man of LEISURE.
NOT constrained or controlled by the schedules of ANYONE.
Please remember arriving 4-6 minutes early or late is a status symbol.
And NEVER arrive with a crooked bow tie.
CONGRATULATIONS on your purchase of the finest engine ever made.
That black, cylinder on the fire wall of your Packard is a vacuum, fuel “pump”. As the gas runs out it makes a vacuum that pulls gas up from the tank. It keeps doing that as you motor down the road. They are very reliable when prepared properly. Some chaps will cut a door in the body of the vac pump and stick an electric pump inside and viola, your all set. Love your chann mate, thank you.
IMO, Packards of the 1920s and 1930s are absolutely beautiful and had very advanced engineering for the time.
A few points. Okay, a few more than a few points:
That tank on the firewall is called the vacuum tank. Engine vacuum sucks fuel from the tank in the back into the vacuum tank, which then feeds the carb by gravity. Mechanical fuel pumps hadn't been invented yet. Stewart (of Stewart-Warner gauges) made piles of vacuum tanks back in the day.
The carburetor has a slightly leaky needle and seat - you should be able to leave it for a few minutes, but be sure to shut off the fuel valve if leaving it for several hours.
Those strange thimble things on the head are called priming cups. He's correct about their purpose.
Electric starters were introduced on the 1912 Cadillac, and were virtually universal by 1923. Even Henry Ford had given up and offered them - but as an option!
The first US car to have turn signals was the 1939 Buick. It only had them on the back, but had front signal lights added in 1940.
Most US cars did not have front brakes until the late 1920s. Virtually all of them were mechanically operated (not hydraulic). This brake system was pretty advanced for the time. If you think these brakes are crap, try a Model T Ford!
The ignition timing had to be adjusted manually. It had to be fully retarded while starting, and dropped back some on steep hills. Automatic timing advance was still in the future, so you had to advance and retard the spark lever as speed and engine load dictated.
The other lever on the steering wheel is a throttle lever, to give you fast idle.
There is a key for the ignition, but it simply prevents you from turning the ignition switch to the on position. Apparently the key got lost, but it's in the unlocked position, so no big deal.
He had trouble starting it because of not being able to use a choke. The Detroit Lubricator carburetor was typically used on high end cars. It's an updraft carburetor - virtually universal for the era - so fuel has to sucked against gravity to reach the cylinders. That's where the priming cups come in handy for cold starts.
Detroit Lubricator patented a "fuelizer", filed in 1921. It appears to be an early version of an automatic cold start enrichment device, though it's not a choke like we think of. Packard references the fuelizer in their 1925 brochure. It appears this carburetor didn't have a choke plate like we think of. So, getting to it to work properly might be a bit tricky. I would have to look up the details (I think I have a book here that describes the carburetor.)
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oldcarbrochures.com/static/NA/Packard/1925_Packard/1925_Packard_Single_Six_Brochure/1925%20Packard%20Single%20Six-08.html
That starter is actually cranking fairly quickly for the era.
Yes, it's a 3 speed unsynchronized transmission. The windshield wiper operates on engine vacuum, and vacuum wiper motors are notoriously temperamental.
The target market was wealthy customers, but not all were bootleggers or other gangsters. (Yes, I know you were joking.)
45 mph was plenty fast for 1923. It might do 50 if in top tune. But, 35-40 is a better idea. Packards were solidly engineered, but don't push your luck.
All in all, a good video.
Update to my previous comment:
The books I have do not cover this early Detroit carburetor. However, it appears the fuelizer mentioned above was only used briefly before switching back to a traditional choke valve. You should double-check whether the carburetor you have does not have a choke valve (someone may have changed carburetors).
Carburetors of this era did not have accelerator pumps. From what I've been able to determine, this is also true of the Detroit Lubricator. Therefore, pumping the accelerator pedal does not accomplish anything in terms of priming the engine. (Obviously, working the accelerator pump via the pedal puts a shot of raw fuel into the manifold.)
For the time being - until you get this sorted out, you probably should use the priming cups during cold-engine starts.
The best place in the US to find rebuild kits and a wealth of information on these early carburetors is thecarburetorshop.com . John is a walking encyclopedia of carburetion, and knows things about early carburetors you'll not find elsewhere.
To network with other Packard owners, you should consider joining packardinfo.com .
what @TedB-j1l said (man you saved me a lot of typing....)
I'm from New Zealand but reside in Australia and enjoy every release of you rebuilding tanks and other machines with the help of your friends or workers. Now you own a Packard built in England. I know you will take care of it. Enjoy
Regarding how you check the oil, you may also find that it has no oil filter. My 1941 Chevrolet offered it only as an option so it wasn’t standard until after WWII. You were simply expected to change the oil every 2000 miles and considering the shorter distances generally driven during that time, that was sufficient.
Also, I’ve found that the vault-like closing of the doors is fairly common on cars that had the metal over wood body construction. It lends a solidity to it.
And lastly, on your vacuum wipers, try running a little Marvel Mystery Oil through them (it). Just allow the engine vacuum to pull it through, it’ll burn in the engine just fine (may even do the engine a bit of good) and will lubricate the seals in the wipers. This was a common maintenance task in the day.
Wonderful car!
Where you have no filter system, it is common to use a single grade oil e..g. SAE30. The crud then precipitates out and is (more or less) flushed out with the 2000 mile oil change as mentioned above. Using a multigrade keeps the crud in suspension so that the filter can take it out. Not a good idea to have crud circulating if there is no filter to take it out.
You are going to have a big learning curve with the brakes, it is a vacuum tank type fuel system that is where the rev before shutting down came from, enjoy and use it often they are made to be used
Does it have a hand or foot pump to prime the fuel to keep its pressure up
From another random old bloke, you are understating the problem with the brakes. Oh memories of ditches and poor brakes after going through a ford. Vacuum fuel accumulator is my thought. That is a very nice motor and he is fortunate that the lights still have the lenses. Best
@@andrewbooth6447 no the fuel should stay in the vac tank that is why the tap on the outlet side .
@@WOFFY-qc9te lets just say i have done my time on cable brakes, when you know how to adjust them you know and when you don't it is terrifying
Mr Hewes yet again a very good relevant video -now don’t let my comments go to your head but I really enjoyed that bit of history as I do all your videos thank you as always - oh I look forward to receive and winning the W11 Jeep I know no chance regards to old Ted plz Chrs Malc uk 🇬🇧
What a Car ! We have one next to our village. The old Man owns ist since 1968. Still running fine ! His Packard has Mirrors mounted on the axel of the middle Door hinge.👍
Superb. My Aunts had a 1934 Packard Saloon. Straight 8. Looks like a gangster car. Used it for my first marriage vehicle. Just as many whistles and bells. Even the tool kit was complete. Lots of luxury and old musty smell as standard.
You're not alone last year I got a 93 year old Model A Ford 4 door Town Sedan, with similar features although not as posh as a Packard. Gravity fuel supply that has to be turned off when you park it, and remember to turn it on before you start it. My Ford has front brakes too, I keep a long distance to vehicles ahead! My side lights have been converted to indicators, essential in modern traffic! And I see you do have an interior mirror that's all you need! What you do get with Vintage motoring is respect and kindness from fellow drivers, which is a revelation these pushy days. And you have proven Derek Mattewson of Bangers & Cash wrong! Young guys do buy very old cars! Enjoy!
It is a vacuum operated fuel pump, fairly common around the time of manufacture on all types of engines.
work off manifold vacuum ?or mechanically driven pump
I've worked on a couple of fairly modern motorcycles with vacuum driven fuel pumps, so they are still a thing :)
Thats cool, i thought it might be one of those pumps that works on vibrations/pulses that are used quite a bit on old motorbikes and scooters.
AutoVac I suspect, the Rolls Royce chaps will be along shortly to confirm
My 1930 Austin 16 has the same - autovac - fuel “pump” they dry out if not used regularly.
I adore vintage cars, there's something I just love seeing how rudimentary and bare bones pre and post war cars were before many of the laws and regulations we have now were instated, not to mention they just have a very classy look too them.
There's only so many left in the world that haven't been cut up into rat/hot rods or scrapped, so it's always nice to still see some vintage cars out and about.
Glad this popped up in my recommended, I'm excited to watch more of your videos on this Packard Six
The "generator" is a dynamo, all devices that produce electricity from rotating electromagnetic force are generators. The valves on top of the cylinders are priming cups, this was necessary back then due to the thick and gummy lubricants that were used at the time. The stuff tended to congeal around the rings and stick to the cylinder wall which made starting difficult, particularly at low temperature, made worse with the low compression in use then. Shouldn't be necessary to use them now with modern lubricants. Nice car.
Door hinge/pin mounted mirrors were a common solution as it allowed a mounting point without drilling any new holes.
9:10 Modern distributors (at least when cars still had them) have a centrifugal advance mechanism. At the engine revs rise the engine needs more ignition advance and the centrifugal advance supplies it (bob weights and springs). Your car's engine has no such mechanism so as the engine revs rise you need to manually give it more advance on that lever in the middle of the steering wheel.
Maybe that would help on the next "high speed" attempt?
I am so glad we have ECU controlled engines now 😅
@@scottrabinow2773yes it would.
You have to adjust the timing on the steering wheel control to get best performance. Low revs retard, more avance for higher speeds, full retard for very slow tickover. You have to get an ear for this to set the timing so the engine is happy. On some engines ther is a notcable difference in sound and power if you alter advance at a set throttle position. If you get "pinking", (preignition sound) alter the timing until it goes away. My engine has bobweight auto timing and manual adjustment at the steering wheel ..Yours is a cracking beautiful car. The first 5 years of appreticship are the worst....
You are really going to enjoy owning the Packard Joe.
I have owned this type of vehicle all my life.
Fuel pump is called an autovac. It is super simple, as the engine turns over it sucks a large diaphragm in the autovac which in turn sucks the fuel from the tank. Thats why you need to turn the fuel off to keep enough fuel in the system to create a vacuum. Panhard had similar problems with dumping fuel onto the road in the 1920s and 1930’s, they never could solve their basic design fault in their carbs, they had made the float level higher than the jet, so it always leaked fuel. They even plumbed in an overflow fuel system, completely bonkers.
The little taps for each cylinder are called priming taps.
Mirrors, an absolute must, plenty available have a look round. More importantly, if you run over a cyclist they might scratch your paint…. and cyclists aren’t insured!
Did not know Packard built some of their cars in England. But Rolls-Royce briefly built cars in Springfield Massachusetts so there you have it! Also Rolls-Royce selected Packard to build Merlin V12 aircraft engines in America. Another fun fact Enzo Ferrari benchmarked the Colombo V12 on the basic architecture of the Packard V12.
Also, some Fiats were made in the USA before WW2.
My guess is that 3rd gear is 1:1 or close to it and it has straight cut gears. Straight cut gears get significantly quieter the closer to 1:1 you get ❤ what a lovely old vehicle
@@TurbineResearch That’s interesting. I wouldn’t have thought and never knew the ratio would have been a factor in the noise.
I assumed first and second were straight cut to reduce the axial load helical cut puts on the casing when there’s a lot of acceleration happening and the cruising 3rd gear was helical cut as there’s not much acceleration to be had when you get to it 🤣
Third gear or top gear is probably a straight connection to the prop using no gears at all, this was common even on post war cars pre 5 speed boxes.
@@EeekiEThey weren't merely straight cut, they were non-synchro sliding gears as well.
Third gear got a LOT of acceleration actually.
In those days, most cars couldn't even reach 60 mph. This made 0-60 times rather impossible. Before this, what automakers did was compare how well their vehicles could pull away from idle whilst in top gear.
It was quite clever. A shorter top gear mean smoother acceleration, but lower top speed. A higher top gear meant better speed, but required a more powerful engine to accomplish.
In this time, fewer gears were desirable since it meant the luxury of less work.
So, third gear typically saw the most use by a significant margin, even under varying speeds.
Top gear is direct drive, no gears involved. American cars were built with large, flexible engines that required almost no gear changing once they got going. You can slow down to a walking pace in top and pull away without bucking or stalling, if the engine is in good shape. Only time you need to drop down to second is on a very steep hill .
The fuel pump is vacuum operated ( vacuum transfer ) it's said they are not very good in hilly terrain because going uphill you lose manifold vacuum with open throttle and they don't work. There are different types but very basically it has a float valve system, when empty the air vent is closed and vacuum valve opened , when full vacuum valve closed air vent open, the carb is then gravity fed through a non return valve, some have a built in reservoir so the carb does not run dry while it's filling.
Congratulations on your purchase! The temperature gauge on the radiator is known as a 'Motometer' but that was originally a brand name adopted to all types. The individual petcocks on each cylinder are called 'Priming Cups', there main purpose was, as you stated to prime the cylinders.. The small lights were referred to as "side lamps' and were used when in light built-up areas, the main headlights were only lit where street lighting did not exist. In use learn to become aware of the various sounds made by the vehicle so that you can spot a problem before it becomes major.
I have always driven historic cars as every-day transport. I live close to Melbourne in Australia and have done some quite long-distant drives such as all the way across to Perth a round trip of about 5,000 miles and a trip to Cairns, a similar distance- all in a 1928 Model A Ford toeing a trailer and with 2 small children on board. Currently I run a 1950 and a 1959 Rover.
That's a lovely motor - no sensors, no ECU, no bollocks just excellent engineering. It looks the mut's nuts too. Who's going to walk in front with a red flag?
Exactly!
More to the point if Joe is driving .. who's brave enough !! 😅
That red flag was obsolete 10 years before this car was built...
jack of course
Don’t be silly he’d have to hold his arm fully extended to even see him above the bonnet 😂
What a beauty! Perfect for chauffeuring Ted around in the luxury and comfort he deserves.
He has the Bentley for that!
If you want top speed play with those protractors and advance the ignition on the fly
i was going to say the same. thanks. sure it's nice to know where the timing should be for starting and getting going, but "real motorists" should know how to use them ;-)
Lovely old machine @Mr.Hewes and thanks for sharing it with us.
The brake linkage is like that because back then they didn't actually have effective bowden style cables. You'll see that the rest of the linkage isn't actually cables it's rods.
You have a wonderful automobile! About the smell/humidity; get some shallow bowls, and place a cup of fresh unused coffee-grounds into each. Set them on the floor, one in front and one in back. The coffee-grounds will absorb moisture, and provide a nice aroma.
You might consider trying it in some of your more uparmored vehicles as well!
Allowing a pan of vinegar to evaporate in the car also reduces odors.
@@Skidderoperator Both techniques are proven to overwhelm farts.
If you get an air ionizer, it will do a good job killing the musty odors if you run it in the car for an hour or two. Might help with Jack's cologne as well.
Ivan Dutton, Shed Racing you need to look up, what Ivan doesn't know about period engines ain't worth knowing! 👍
My Grandad had an old Ford Consul with similar handling problems. It was running on cross ply tyres, we changed them to radials and it improved it quite a bit.
They were originally made here in detroit and fun fact most of the factory is still here and we as kids use to go in and explore it. So many pictures in there. They were and are really nice cars.
Packard started in Indiana, originally, then moved to Detroit.
There really isn't much left of the plant besides the physical structure, and it is currently being demolished due to spending decades banded and neglected.
Packard was the first to put in their own proving grounds and that still remains. It still gets used for car related events.
Joe, thanks for the ride, looked like a bit of fun. It has a very posh interior, hope you two enjoy the heck out of it. Cheers.
15:20...the wipers are vacuum powered with a hand operated alternative...note the air line next to the A pillar terminating in the wiper.
I am not particularly mechanically minded but love your videos for their interesting content and entertainment value. Great hearing about that lovely car.
2:05 "this thing here" is called a Vacuum tank, it draws vacuum off the intake and uses it to suck fuel up into its self and then drops it into the carb, my 1927 Chev had one, mine no longer holds vacuum so im going to switch to an electric fuel pump
My Uncle has the same temperature gauge place on his 1926 Morris Bull Nose. A great video, thank you Mr Hewes.
Well done lad. You must keep that car for the remainder of your life. It is epic and will become an old friend for sure. Love it. By the way gas is short for gasoline. We are not all, well mostly not all daft. Cheers mate.
Fair play to you mr h for keeping your feet on the ground and bringing the older yesteryear vehicles back to life.yes you could do vids on lambos,ferrarris etc but for a young age your so enjoyable and interesting to watch,thankyou 👊❤️
Hi Joe , The Valves as you call on top of the cylinders where you put petrol in are called PETCOCKS NOT VALVES . Cheers
Really great condition Packard six. - hand crank went out i the US after the war 1919 for the Model T. An early 'goddess of Speed' hood ornament. The Thompson machine gun is properly referred to in Packard circles as a 'Chicago typewriter'.
No word of a lie, this video had proper original Top Gear vibes, and I'm all for it. Brilliant video Joe, thoroughly enjoyable watch.
This model is called a 'closed' car because the sides are not open and the roof doesn't collapse. Since it had no side mirrors, you could use reproduction side mirrors from a Model A Ford which would be period and not make it look bad. They are easily obtained, and would mount on the windshield post support or the door. The wiper is vacuum system. Probably have a bad hose or the mechanism might be broken or stuck. Having driven older cars with vacuum wipers, they are always very weak. Packards are nice cars.
Brilliant. Took me back to my childhood, outings at the weekend in dad's old cars.
Love the old girl. Very pleased for you.
Like my land rover, it has map pockets in the back, unlike my land rover, if you don't use it for a couple of weeks, it starts.
That is the coolest engine ever! Amazing! Gear noise is due to straight cut gears in the transmission.
My Father and Mother used to drive Packard's in America.
Both of them were convinced they were much better and nicer cars than any other car in the world. ( 1950 - 1965 )
You seem to make it look like the perfect ride for a English Bloke on the town!
I am proud of you! ( And your other rides as well )
When Packard Speed tested the car. They did just the chassis and running gear. The body would later be put on by a coach builder. So technically they were not lying, they just were not taking in the effects of aerodynamics.
I have a soft spot for a Packard! Very well made cars. Congratulations!! Enjoy it and have fun with it. But...just no mud bogs please! Lol 😂
Might be worth asking the national motor museum Beaulieu about mirrors, and English builds etc. A long time ago I did see a Packard there, it did have door mirrors.
What a fantastic vintage car, really enjoyed you telling us about it, just need a violin case with a Thompson 9mm submachine gun in it on the back seat.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Good job! You got a pot of gold on wheels!!!!,! Love it!
Brilliant, straight cut teeth in 1st and 2nd I expect love the drinks cabinet
What a fabulous motor vehicle. Thanks for sharing your plans with us, it deserves preserving as it's in very good condition 😊
Dynamo is the term I always used for pre alternator generators.
On the plus side, they're very simple to overhaul & repair.
A dynamo is a very different device from a generator or alternator. That is like calling a diesel engine a gasoline one. Similar, but with important distinctions.
@@danielhomant2832 Depending on where you live, dynamos are also called generators.
Not sure if anyone has commented on the tank in the engine compartment but it is a autovac unit to pump the petrol to the carburettor . The valves on the head are used as you say to get fuel into the engine because the autovac unit works off of vacuum when engine is running for a minute or so . I believe you can put petrol in the autovac unit to prime engine .
the fuel cups on top of the cylinder head is your cold start fuel enrichment. it was not designed for starting a fuel starved carburetor. cool car I have to say.
They knew 100 years ago that "Easy Start" would come in can form and would need a direct injection port !! amazing foresight :)
Don't use Easistart, as it has no lubricative qualities, washes the bore dry and wears out the rings in VERY short order (which is why people say engines get 'addicted' to the wretched stuff).
@@eddiestevenson-kaatsch6306 do be facts my man
@@eddiestevenson-kaatsch6306 I have heard easistart referred to as Dope
The radiator cap temperature indicator was quite common in the era; a common brand was the Boyce Motometer. The electric self-starter had actually been around for a fair amount of time in 1924.
If memory serves, it was first featured on the 1912 Cadillac. Until the introduction of the electric self-starter, steam, electric and gas-engined cars shared the market. The self-starter rendered steam and electric cars instantly uncompetitive.
The foot-pedal starter was a clever device. When depressed, the foot-pedal starter switch both made an electrical contact and moved the starter pinion to engage the flywheel. It was still found on the 1948 Chevy pickup we had when I was small.
Windscreen wiper works from the engine vacuum on the inlet manifold
Unless you plan on competing in Concours events or putting it in a museum, don't worry about making sensible modifications like adding mirrors. This was from the time of the dawn of popular car culture. Modifying and customizing was as popular then as it is now. People back then did all kinds of crazy stuff. If you plan on using it as a reasonably regular road car, make it as comfortable and safe as suits you.
'Gas' is short for 'gasolene' as 'petrol' is short for petroleum. Called 'gasolene' because it was a refined form of petroleum that easily vapourised for use in carburettors. And now you know!
I thought it was a corruption of cazeline
Benzin in Germany, Benzene in France and Spain if I remember correctly.
...have you thought about a 12 volt ionizer for your Packard? They are fairly cheap, and take away any mustiness from the car's interior. They are available from the likes of Supercheap (in Australia), or most car accessory outlets. I have one in my car because of my dogs, and it runs either from the cigarette lighter outlet, or off the built-in solar panel. Hope this helps. Love your show. 🙂
You should get a bit more speed out of it with a bit more advance wound in. Cracking car though.
I was a volunteer for the Canadian Historical Aviation Society now Canadian Aviation Museum restoring Lancaster FM212 in Windsor sister to FM213 flying in Hamilton Ontario we had Packard built 225 merlins. There was a Packard assembly plant in Detroit 4 min drive across the bridge or tunnel depending what you took, us Canadians and Americans pronounce it packrrrrrrrdddd not packaaaaddd. Its interesting to me to see the UK pronounceiation of things. Hopefully you're having a great day joe and the crew cheers 🍻
Shit now I feel old. That thing's never 100 years old! It's got windows, inflatable tyres and all sorts! The bloody Benz Patent-Motorwagen, that's what a 100 year old car looks like! Oh wait it's not 1985 any more 😞
The big hurdle with driving something like this is to get over the need to keep it tracking dead straight and true. If you try to keep it absolutely on a steady line you’ll be fighting it all the time and you’ll be exhausted by the time you get where you’re going. If you relax and let it wander a little, you’ll find that it doesn’t actually need much steering input to keep it going in the right direction and you’ll be much more relaxed when you’re driving it.
Lovely old thing though. Nice to see it being driven and enjoyed.
You need to recreate the Titanic scene 😂
with Jack... ofc
With Jack’s mum
EASY GUYS ... EASY !! LOL😊
@@chipking6036with the dog! 😂
How rude 🤔🤣
Beautiful car and coachwork , we have a 1928 Rolls Phantom 1 limousine in the family 59 years, 1928 with very similar features , bought by my brother when he was 19 .You should find easier changing up if you change into top a little sooner , the engine develops so much torque it will take it with no problem , changing down is a little trickier , but not at fast road speed and blip the throttle to synchronise engine and road speed. to get a silent change .All part of the fun so good to see a young person interested in such a grand old high quality car .You should be able to find good quality period mirrors to fit on the A pillars .The wiper is I assume vaccum operated , check piping to the inlet manifold has no breaks or leaks.
That was 45 MPH downhill.🤣 Then of course you cannot stop for anything.🤕 A very nice piece of automotive history!
what an absolute gorgeous piece of old school class!
Cheers for sharing.
I’ve seen those brakes on a trolley bus. I imagine they would tune up to be good. Maybe you need the right lining material? Anyhoo, cool car.
Might be worth sending them off
@@MrHewesthere's a company in Sheffield that refurbishes old brakes back to new standard but using modern materials (not asbestos based)
4:20 Those are called priming cups. The way they work is you fill the cup with the valve closed, then open it to let the fuel drop into the cylinder. This ensure that every cylinder has the correct amount of fuel.
Awesome! 🚗🚘🏎 That Door Clunk reminds me of "Slam Door" Commuter trains from the 1970s. A Proper "Thunk!"
What a lovely old car. Love it. I’m 72 and I good understanding of mechanical engineering so love the old stuff.
Respect to you sir and as a youngster at 60, i love this stuff too 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Lovely Car. I never knew Packard made cars in the UK. Fascinating. A few helpers if I may. The Ammeter looks broken, this is common. Either the needle has come away from it's seat or a centring spring is broken, it can be taken apart and repaired with care. Checking the electrical system is charging is simple, just rev the engine and check the battery voltage. Be aware though that cars of this era often didn't have voltage regulators, so the battery voltage may not settle. If there is no charge, check for a voltage regulator, failing that checking the dynamo is not hard. Remove from the car and see if it motors when voltage is applied (you'll need to check the internal connections to know how to wire up. There are a lot of people online who give instructions on this). If not it probably needs flashing. This can be done and does not need special tools. The cups on top of the engine are "priming cups". Don't use them as they are notorious for leaking. The carb looks like it has a tickler on the top of the float bowl to assist with cold starting. The tank is a balance tank to ensure the carburettor has a constant head of fuel and therefore runs at its best. the fuel pumps of the day were typically vacuum or air pumps, and not constant pressure.
There was a lot of back and forth,back when. Rolls Royce had a US manufacture in Springfield for a number of years. Ohio ? Not sure,but Springfield Rolls are a thing amongst US collectors.
Flashing, many a dynamo scraped because they had lost residual magnetism, only old duffers know of this magic. Regulator, what an oxymoron that is amazing you can still get new old stock and I would advise the CAV not the Lucas.
@@paulmanson253 Springfield Massachusetts .
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I believe the rectangle thing in the door is an ashtray.
Reflective dashboard is nice and shiny almost a mirror
The rope in the rear is for actually helping you get out the chair to leave the car especially ladies you pull on it due to the heels and dresser’s. Change that isolation valve On The fuel to electrical and put a switch h in the cab. Put a. Bowl with salt in it that will take all moister out stop black mould
Lovely car, Joe - I think stopping could be best termed as an emergency slowdown and coming to a standstill
Wonderful.
Wiper, just move the slide lever yourself. Speed, adjust timing and fuel there on the wheel.
Shifting, unless from a start, remaining shifts won't need the clutch as you can just "float" the gears and they will mesh.
Delicate procedure as you don't need to man handle shift lever to do so, 2 finger touch with light pressure puts it into next gear when rpms match the transmission gears. Downshift is same just add rpms between gears to get the mesh. Just like you can do with the foden.
Hope you keep this beautiful car forever.
What a coincidence! Yesterday I also bought a vintage car, a Fiat 522C from 1931 sporting a ~2.5l straight 6 developing a neck-breaking ~52BHP(in 1931). Just like you, I got my love for pre-war cars from the Mafia series of games(I had Mafia 2 when I was a wee lad) and being able to finally own one of my very own is a dream come true.
I never had the patience as a kit to sit and read books. But the story line in mafia 1 was fantastic and would make a good film 🎥
@@MrHewes It has a similar story to Goodfellas, and I've often considered them variations of the same tale.
I believe the little cylinder cups with 90 degree valves are simply called "starting cups". If you haven't used the car in a while it will start much faster and save your starter. Those brakes might just need adjustment. When they are out of adjustment the car will pull too. Thanks for sharing this one. It looks to be in nice condition.
Excellent camera quality. Super upgrade. Did Captain Darling suggest this ?
Brilliant video, thank you for sharing. It is great to see you enjoying the Packard.
As if it has a mirror in the drinks cabinet but not on the wings. Love it.
Ironically
Hi Joe, I have been watching your videos with interest because my late brother was a tank driver (Centurion) then you put up your video of your Packard. My father used to be chauffer to Mr Godfrey Leighton hotelier of The Royal George Hotel Knutsford pre 1939 driving a Packard. Post war Mr Leighton paid for. my mother to go into a private nursing home to deliver a son, yours truly, Godfrey Walton.
Far funnier than Clarkson Hammond may.
"If you want to look at your feet"
The other use for the rear interior hand strap was true Joe subtleness 😂.
Nice review.
Love it a beautiful old classic nice to see you enjoying yourself bit different from tanks
The vacuum petrol pumps are a nightmare. On the various vintage Bentleys I had, I would always bypass them and use one electric pump on the 4½ litre 4 cylinder cars and two pumps on the Speed Six 6½ litre cars. I would leave the Autovac mounted on the bulkhead but just bypass it. They have a nasty habit of running you out of fuel in the worst possible time, like on a motorway, where there is insufficient vacuum being generated to pump enough fuel. For the generator, it may just need "flashing" to re-magnetise it - make sure you do it with the correct polarity, probably positive earth but some US cars of the period were negative earth - check. . Also the relays on older regulators are notorious for sticking, which may also be part of the problem.
Mr Hewes, you are a good lad, and the Packard is a classic and beautiful automobile. The windshield wiper is probably operated by a vacuum system and only works when the engine is running. So check the lines if you can find out where it is located. As for mirrors, you might consider looking at other models of the Packard to get an idea how to solve the issue. Best success to your ownership of this lovely classic. You have managed to brake in a situation when you know the roads near you, and if you find out an improvement on the brakes then venture out further.
What a great old car. I’m glad you’re not into super cars. There are enough people on UA-cam who do that. It does get boring watching channels with super cars that most people can’t afford. Don’t get me wrong , I like fast cars but your channel by far is my favourite channel. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Pre war cars are affordable. It doesn’t have to be worth a fortune to be nice or fun to drive
Packed are wonderful cars, and the Roaring 20's had some real beauties rolling out of the Packard plants. One of the most beautiful autos I've ever seen was a 1928 Packard limousine in all black.
I agree, the carburetor needs looking into very soon. Either the float is sinking in the gas, or the needle's seat is gummed up. This will result in a rich mixture, quite possibly rinsing oil iff the cylinder walls.
The generator may need the field winding re-flashed, new brushess or the external regulator is not working (open contacts or burnt coil)
You probably know this, but in WWII Packard built Merlin engines for the P-51 Mustangs, which escorted Lancaster bombers far into Germany. You may even find Packard made engines resurrected as Meteor motors in tanks!
Best regards from across the pond in the land of gators!
Beautiful Car!
I think you got a great deal on this at the auction. Tgey apparently have a worm gear steering box and kingpins like an old 356 or 1st gen beetle both of which are prone to wear. This could be exacerbating your steering issues. So much car . Love the bar