Should You Pull Ellen or Zhu Yuan? Who's the Best! | Zenless Zone Zero
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- Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
- Zenless Zone Zero releases July 4th, and a lot of players want to know which limited banner Best 5-Star Character is the BEST for them to Choose in Zenless Zone Zero. Ellen is an S-Rank / 5-Star Ice Attack Character who excels at dealing massive ice damage, incredible movement options, and unleashing crazy fast attacks! On the other hand, Zhu Yuan is an S-Rank / 5-Star Ether Attack Agent who deals explosive ether damage with her shotshell stacks. In today's video, Iyo breaks down Ellen and Zhu Yuan's kits, ideal team synergies, and if they are worth pulling for F2P in Zenless Zone Zero.
Some notable mentions in this video include Lycaon, Rina, Grace, Koleda, Nekomata, Soldier 11, and their overall value. This is Iyo's Beginner Guide to EVERY Standard 5-Star / S-Rank Character in Zenless Zone Zero.
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0:00 Intro
0:58 IMPORTANT DISCLAIMER
2:40 Should You Pull Ellen
12:25 Should You Pull Zhu Yuan
21:27 Where I believe the ZZZ Meta is Going
25:20 Final Wrap Up - Ігри
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Aight you earned it this time, bub.
I find it so ironic that Nicole, who's a total troublemaker and part of an odd-job agency, has particularly good synergy with an upstanding, reliable, by-the-books cop lady
I know right 😂😂😂
So Nicole is gintoki from gintama:0
Vi and Caitlyn from arcane/league
Opposites attract
is there ever a closer relationship than an officer and their CI?
Said it once and will say it 100 more times. Zhu Yuan is the hottest fully clothed female character in the entire hoyo games
What does "fully clothed" even mean? 😂
@@tylerkincaid5200Basically she’s very attractive with or without clothes on. It’s a good thing when a woman can pull off a suit or uniform
@@tylerkincaid5200 it means no need for onlyfans
Arlecchino for me
@@user-tw9ot3or7e she's too mommy for me. But i get you
Ellen and Zhu Yuan wanters will be Ellen and Zhu Yuan havers, blessing all of yall 🗣️🗣️🗣️💯💯💯
Good thing my Ellen is guaranteed. Got the Wolf butler in the very first 10 pull of her banner.
thank you i wanted ellen and soldier 11 i lost the 50/50 and got soldier and now due to your blessing i got ellen early on about 30-40 pity and i got lycaon from standard banner
@@Troyo-wk2rn Blessings to you, got my Ellen yesterday, i only got her 4 pulls away from hard pity but it was worth it.
shark 👍 maid 👍 fast 👍
I read that as shark maid feet
@@MegaKabutops777that too
@@MegaKabutops777 that works too.
She is mad fast like damn
I'll pull for whoever is available. No waiting, no saving, just pull pull pull. I'll use who I get.
bro is hakari
Based gambling addict chad
Always bet on Hakari
I always do this in Hoyo games. No skips, just pull, pull and pull
Same
Can I just say how much I appreciate you making actual informative content on the game instead of just shitting on it? Most of my usual go-to channels have put out nothing but hate toward the game, and it's getting more than a little grating. Like damn, man, if you don't like it, don't play it. Ain't no reason you gotta post eleven videos about how much you hate it when the people who are actually searching for ZZZ content are just looking for goddamn gameplay guides. I digress, keep up the good work, man.
Ikr. I try to search for ZZZ content on YT and most of what pops up are just hate videos or toxic drama. It's nice to have a go-to cc that actually has a productive video and not just whine for 10+ minutes. I'm not saying they have to dck ride Hoyo everytime but damn, we get it... they hate the game so they should just move on.
In going for Zhu Yuan for sure! Everything about her is my vibe from gameplay to design cause holy moly shes really beautiful. Also as a fighting game lover and fgc person since i was little her high execution is something i love too.
I love nier and Ellen kinda gives me nier vibes with how she plays. She's also a cute shark maid so I pull.
You mean 2B from Nier Automata? Yeah, them both are so cool!!
oh wait that's so true, i was thinking about what she reminded me of when i played her!!
@mint_zzz specifically A2, the dash is near identical lmao
I prefer longer videos because your knowledge of games with elements reminiscent of fighting games, and having these ways to change the gameplay that's just shown to you is something I like. Can't wait to hop on and learn these characters gameplay potential. Unfortunately, others aren't providing this depth of insight, but I'm glad to have someone to watch for detailed gameplay info.
Super helpful for understanding the kits, thank you! I’m looking forward to Ellen 🙌🏾
Glad I could help!
Glad you are making content on this game. Used to watch all your star rail content. Great insight and you set players up for success
Killing it with these videos man. Getting me super excited for launch. Need Lycaon and Ellen in first 10 pull 🙏🏼
That’s what I like to hear right there!
Hope you get Ellen, so you don't use Corin in Ellen's team.
Wait I have Lycaon available for me so is Ellen good or should I save for miyabi?
I can make these teams with either
Lycaon,soukaku,Ellen/miyabi
If I go for Ellen I can get the Victoria faction buff
If I go for miyabi I can get the shiyu defense force buff
@@StellaronHunter666Ellen/Lycaon/Sokaku are the current best team in the game. Lycaon will also work really well with Miyabi. Either one would work due to ice/faction bonus for the main DPS.
So pick a fav I guess. Don’t know when Miyabi is coming, and I’d rather get Ellen.
@@DNAbro I think miyabi is coming after the zhu hua? (Idk the name of the cop girl) Banner
As a long time Souls player I really appreciate your take on things and how in depth you go with how you can play around with the mechanics in this game. While the game itself isn't a challenge necessarily, it's the fact that I can no challenge myself to learn these mechanics or little tricks that will make playing characters more fun/engaging. I really look forward to the future of this game and how I can mess around with different playstyles and gimmicks. Really appreciate your content man, only stumbled across you a week before ZZZ launch and you're who I been solely watching outside of build guides and what have you. Keep it up!:
Genuinely don't think you can go wrong with either character, but I'm going for Zhu Yuan because she just looks so fluid to play. I think fast paced characters are a lot more valuable in this game than the slower ones so she seems like she'll probably stay meta for a while just for that reason.
Also great video, nice to see someone cover the game with FGC experience because that brings a welcome perspective to analysis for the game that most other YTers covering ZZZ won't have.
Yo can you PLEASE make a Combo guide video for every character? You're the most knowledgeable CC on this, and it's a kind of content only YOU can do.
Thanks in advance for the awesome videos
This was actually super informative!! I found it super helpful to hear an in-depth explanation between both characters’ kits. I pulled for Ellen already bc I really like her and I also just love Von Lycaon, and got SUPER lucky by pulling him off of standard! No rerolls needed 🎉
I’m going to wait to see on who the next 5* may be for 1.1 BUT I honestly really dig Zhu Yuan’s design and kit. I might pull for her if there isn’t anyone who interests me coming up next!
3:20 between Nicole’s hidden command and this I’m really looking forward to this game🤣
I'm honestly more interested in some of the main roster units more than the limited ones so far, BUT...gotta give the algorithm a nudge.
Good stuff man and keep it up. Also, just an idea, but I think a podcast between u and smack would be a great idea. You both have an extensive FG background and relish in competitive and complex gameplay so I feel like a conversion between yall would be interesting for a lot of people outside of that space that are from the gacha space especially since ur familiar with most combat focused gachas outhere.
Absolutely excited for this as I LIKE how hard HSR is. Genshin has a super low skill floor and WuWa has a super high skill ceiling, but this seems to be a combination of the two and if we have the difficulty of HSR with DEEP character investment, and managing patch buffs, I'm going to have a blast
iyo always bring a unique perspective to the take and im here for it 😊
Hey @Iyo XS, I usually don't play mechanically "difficult" characters but I really like Ellen so I've decided to try and master her combo's for this game like you explained. My question is, will you make a video explaining in detail how to do the optimal inputs for Ellen (and other characters) once the game releases?
Good debut brother, amazing content keep it up !
Btw, can you drop your music playlist ? This shi is crazy
I gonna need that video on W-engines I hope people dont sleep on them. HSR and Genshin you can get away with not having sig weapons as for HI3rd you can always craft and use alts options.
I'll add it to my list to work on for sure! Might try to collab with someone on some numbers.
Wait you want them to be mandatory for good builds? Why would you willingly want people to spend more? Maybe I'm reading your comment wrong sorry. :S
Seeing that Zhu Yuan gameplay was all I needed. She looks sick!
I can’t wait to pair up that tank cop dude with Zhu
One note for the music , Ellen's demo song has a metal riff at the end and it's amazing
Coming from a fighting game mindset having played some myself has been helpful in explaing which chrachters I should focus on or to commit
Great video. Precisely because of elemental immunity and what not, i'm pulling any and every character I can lol. Can you do a video on team synergy? Ex: different lineup orders, 2 vs 3 characters. Sometimes you can get 4-5 chain attacks just with an dps, support and bangboo. A lot of depth in the combat of this game it's great imo.
Appreciate that beneath the mask backtrack my guy
@IyoXS I've been trusting your takes in HSR so I'm going to trust you here - I'd love to know what you think about Disorder. Is it stronger than, say, a mono-Ice team (Ellen/Lyc/Sup)? If I was going to build a Disorder team right now, I'd go Ellen/Lyc/Rina so I still have one of the strongest elements (ice), plus fast application of second element (shock) to proc Disorder plus have res pen - what's your take?
Coincidentally I have a tier list video releasing tonight and I go over that exact team comparison. lol
TLDR; I agree with you and believe that Ellen/Lyc/Rin team is the strongest version of her team. Hooowever, that's not to say Kaku isn't golden on the team either. Over 1k+ raw ATK boost to the entire team, Ice DMG % boost & Ice RES Red for the entire team + 1 combo freezes? Saokaku is really dang strong for freeze comps at launch. It's super hard to make the argument whether or not single instance Disorder triggers will be stronger than perma-freeze + her omniboosts.
@@IyoXS Can't wait to see it, I'll def be watching for it. So basically we don't know if Disorder is stronger until after release and more testing?
honestly I'm saving for this first patch, I like both characters but I don't love them, there isn't that need like with Seele and Jing Yuan that I had. Honestly, biker chick with the sword and shield and Dark Mode Ayaka from the release trailer are who I'm saving for.
Edit: Yo also great work on these ZZZ videos, I really appreciate you tying this to fighting game stuff just because thats a good personal frame of reference for me. I'd love to see you breakdown some unique mechanics of character kits like you did with Nicole for one of the closed betas.
Ellen is the whole reason I'm excited for this game. I'm getting her. Zhu Yuan would be a nice pickup. I like characters with a kit that requires engagement.
Definitely going Ellen! But if possible gonna try and get her W engine and maybe more copies of her this might the one game I become pay to play on I also loved how you broke down the characters on the video of choosing a 5 star I was waiting for you breakdown on Ellen
by "plinking" u mean prio links? I mean there's not such thing in this game but I would assume u talking about the technique itself of pushing the button u want to use right after another to make it come out faster?
I have rina so should I pull for Ellen to pair with her?
I know I can trust a youtuber when they have persona 5 music in the background
I got Ellen, but should I go for her engine too or is it not necessary?
I'm getting Zhu Yuan cause I like her beeg CAKE and also her fast paced gameplay. I'm horrible on slow and easy to play characters for some reason 😂😂.
fast is good
real shit that shit dummy thicc
I love Ellen gameplay but Zhu Yuan mechanics gives me Hyperreal (PGR) vibes: ordinary bullet, strong bullet stack, some AoE damage, auto dodge, hopping all around the field, and nuke.
Hyperreal is my favourite man I can't decide yet
It keeps throwing me off that Electro elemental damage is bright blue colored in this game. Cuz then Ice is a more pale blue. You’d think they would’ve made Electro a yellow color or something.
Yellow would be too similar to Ether damage. Idk actually purple for Lightning would look sick (in a good way ofc)
@@mint_zzzether is purple I think. Physical is yellow and super common though
@@mint_zzz ether is like a byzantine violet and indigo. at least the icon
@@FrostyPeppercorn quite off topic but you sound like my mother explaining colours to me
Question. Which 5 star in standard banner choose for Zhu Yuan???
22:45 imaginary is a actual element in HI3. Im from this game and im about to try ZZZ if what you’re saying is right, it gives me more reason to play (even tho i would’ve tested it anyway) great vids man🔥 like and sub from France🇫🇷
well coming from hi3rd..in my first 5 hours experience it basically a reskin lite hi3rd combat with mini games and colour..and good soudtrack..the combat is..meh i guess..coming to this after playing hi3rd part 2 is not satisfying for me
I have koleda with her sig w engine but I also have ms5 soukaku, who should I go for??
nice video!
Is there a training mode in game? it seem look like it but I didn't find confirmation of it.
see you :)
Welp, that answered all my concerns 😂. Btw what does the "XS" in your channel name mean, is it some kind of iPhone reference? 😂
Iyo what do you think of completely skipping the 1.0 characters and looking towards 1.1? Or would you say picking one of them up would be good to start an account?
Wouldn't recommend unless you absolutely just despise the 1.0 launch. I'm a way bigger fun of enjoy the game now vs not enjoying it, but still playing until something you like rolls around.
When is Zhu Yuan coming out? I thought only Ellen can be pulled right now?
I got so lost in the persona 5 ost that I almost forgot what the video was about lol
I was really considering to pull for Ellen but this shot at 2:36 was absolutely enough to convince me to save for Zhu Yuan. Thanks Iyo.
How many units I should build for endgame content?
Fuck all tht I want to know is this game playable with the backbone controller with your phone. I play hsr and genshin on there so will it also be on there
So what if i got lycaon as my first s rank, who do i pull for?
good review bro
So i pulled Ellen and am going for the weapon, was wonder if anyone knows if its better to try and get a nother copy of Ellen, (her cinema doesnt seem too strong) or go for a copy of the weapon OR just try and get Zhu Yuan since i still got like 2 weeks
Ready for the Iyo takes
Tbh, I started playing today, almost 10 hours in and I'm almost going to chapter 2(I've been doing the side content), and this game is not looking that difficult to begin with, like I'm playing this in the hardest difficulty and my health bar never went below 50%.
Does this game get's more challenging? It's a genuine question. Good video btw
Why did he delete all his previous videos?
For anyone that says combat looks mid or whatnot
Trust me
The visuals is very deceiving
I was also skeptical about the combat
But when i got to actually do it im cbt3
You can REALLY feel the movement of the characters
Zhu yuan for example is very "jumpy" i would say idk how to describe it cuz she feels very tactile in terms of controls
And her pace is at the VERY fast spd
Ellen while looks flashy feels a bit like a great sword user but 50% faster cuz her animation has a lot of charge stages
And tbh my favorite is ben
Why ben?
He is for me at least the most technically interesting and unique out of all the others i've tried
Ben has a LOT of kinda secret moves which you unlcok after doing the active skill for the first time
Some of them are rocket jet pillar punch
My favorite that you can do after doing his active skill once and using half the energy bar
Cool af
Also yes he moves VERY slow
But his attacks is not
You can further enhance this game combat speed by constantly swapping characters and basically idk... How to call it but " animation buffer"?
A bit different from canceling animation since some characters has attacks that carries over even after you switch and ben's dodge attack can help mitigate some enemy action by ramming himself to the enemy after you switch out at his 4-5 combo string
And other cool hidden combo stuff that you'd find in fighting games
The term you're thinking of is switch tech, where a character's longer attack animation can continue after you switch to a different character and still be on screen at the same time as you are controlling the new character until the attack finishes. There are some characters in Wuthering Waves that have moves built around switch tech (looking at you, Encore)
The last bit is similar to Intro/Outro Skills in WuWa, is it not?
You can literally clear the ‘abyss’ of this game with your eyes closed only listening to sound indicator up til 7th floor
I’m 31 and I attempted it with Ellen + Amby + Soukaku, finished in before the 6min S rank benchmark, with my eyes closed only spamming left click and space bar
This game is extremely casual and ceiling is not high either
"The visuals is very deceiving" *proceed to only talk about the visuals*.
Then I guess I was right, the combat IS as boring as it looks
I love the persona OST in the background :D
I was pulling for Ellen but it's a good thing that she didn't come home yet. Zhu Yuan gameplay is super similar to Grace's (my favorite character yet) so I'll save for her, even if I don't really like her design-wise
I thought I was going to main Billie but I got tired of kiting really fast. I’m not sure if I would wanna change from the Ellen play style back to a play style like Billie’s.
bro HAS to mention it every single video 😭😭😭
Sorry I’m a bit confused on what you are trying to say about W-engines, you bring up how they are hard to get compared to genshin… but they just aren’t? It’s the exact same system as genshin and in fact it’s going to be easier to get them compared to genshin as it’s a 75/25 and if you lose you are guaranteed on the next. Plus you have the ability to get rid of already maxed/unwanted engines to buy them at the gadget store. Or do you mean that they are a lot more character specific? Things like Nicole’s W-engine can only be used on her due to it being a support engine for ether… which is only Nicole…
I really like Ellen and her tail but
- Zhu oneesan
- good sinergy with Nicole
Should I skip these for Miyabi?
They both look great, if rerolling doesn't take long, I will probally just go with whatever one I land first.
Design-wise, Zhu Yuan reminds me of a cross between KOF's Leona and Kiyone/Space Police from Tenchi Muyo, and that's all I need to pull
The long format is working for ya. Nice to listen to at work.
Also guys subscribe what is this 3k??
Fav gacha creator of all time
Also for a ZZZ channel personally I think it should have a ZZZ pfp instead of Klee but it’s up to you to change it luv your work, I’ll always have faith in the Iyo take ❤
I wanna change it to Ellen, but Hoyo sucks at making these stickers for any other game besides Genshin. Idk who the artist is they have in the basement, but I need them to make me some ZZZ stickers NOW. lol
I like high execution characters but not if it feels clunky and tedious. Does Zhu Yuan gameplay feel this way? (i.e. Hu Tao, Calcharo)
she looks pretty simple to play
0:04 Ahmmm! actually they are gardening shears !!
jokes apart love the vid keep it up
I'm loving ZZZ ngl it's so fun and the animation is amazing but W vid
How do I get best starting in game
What time game drop?
Some people said that I could get 160 pulls in one day but I almost got 30 only. The game is fun, its art style is amazing and characters are nice(especially Billy);however, I couldn’t get these pulls. Help me plz.
Anyone knows the music starting at 20:03 ?
ZhuYuen's passive, if its the same as the trial version we get in the story, is activated by having an ether character or a support character. It doesnt say faction.
So you can put her on a team with day Rina or Soukaku for instance and you dont need to have Nicole. But nicole is probably the better choice because of nicoles passive.
My favorite characters are both Ice and Ether at the moment, I’ll just see if I get lucky!
Can someone please tell me who i can use with ellen other than lycon cuz I don’t wanna play dat
If you don't wanna play her best partner, then just play whoever you want. It's kinda like... You can't ask for meta results, but not wanna follow proven meta builds, y'know?
Koleda or Anby are your only other stun options in the game, both of which have their unique strengths, but neither of which have anything close to what Lycaon has. Especially for Ellen.
@@IyoXS ight cool. Just wanted to know who else i could use
Honestly, I went for Ellen because I really like playing with Corin (her weapon gosh I just LOVE IT) and since I didn't get Rina (another maid) as the first standard 5* , I can only count on Piper and Ellen to be paired with Corin for now. BUT I DO NOT REGRET. I've build up Soukaku as well, so I've got already a right team for Physical (Corin DPS, Piper, Ellen/Lucy), Ice (Ellen DPS, Soukaku, Corin) and Fire (Soldier 11 DPS, Lucy, Ben). I don't think I'll build an electro or an ether team yet, I've got too much already to properly build. Once I'm finished with those, I'll try other comps.
I love Ellen SO much. Zhu Yuan is definitely a possibility but I love Soukaku so much (as a demon lover) so Soukaku and Ellen synergy is just TOO good. Excited for a 5 star demon (boy or girl) at some point!
Now after playing the game, it's not about who should I pull, it's about when can I save enough to start pulling...
i am sooo going to save my pull and WAITTTTT. Meanwhile I'll be building up those prominent 4 stars and 5 star from the standard banner.
I think I'mma pull for Joe. I want Zhu, but I already have teammates built that'll work best with Joe. Though I really do need a character with the same element type thing as Nicole.
Luckily, I got Ellen early so I can save more polychrome for Zhu Yuan. Hopefuly I am not losing 50/50 in Zhu Yuan banner.
As f2p player Im going to reroll for lycaon and get ellen, but could i still try and pull for zhu yuan? I think i like more his gameplay than ellen one yet i still need her for my lycaon team
Do the first one if you’re lucky enough.
Ellen, Lycaon and Sousaku is really strong rn
5:21 That right there is all I need.
I want both and i k ow the resorses is a problem but that is just solved with time
Well man, I now have 3 accounts with guaranteed. Talk about luck, but this vid give me hope man. Maybe me and Zhu Zhun are just meant to be. Or should I just wait for 1.1
Can Ellen's W-engine be equipped on Von Lycaon? The passive seems perfect but I'm not sure about the compatibility
Yup.
No, its for attack types and hes a stun unit. it's just like in hsr, weapons are limited to the "paths"
I think they got rid of the "type" limitations after CBT3, since they added the "faction or element" change instead of the "faction or type" from before. I could be wrong though. Safest to check tomorrow night after release.
Wait confused so if I skip a banner I have a guarantee for the next banner ? Can someone explain ?
lose 50/50 = guaranteed. read the gacha rules. :))
Hoyo games have a 50/50 chance of getting the limited or a standard 5*/S-rank. if you "lose" the 50/50 (getting a standard), your next 5*/S-rank is guaranteed to be the limited one, and it carries over to the next banner if you choose to stop pulling on the current one and wait. if you "win" (getting the limited one), your next 5*/S-rank will still be a 50/50
@@BestKazuhaFan I have its jus the way he explained it I thought there was a new mechanic I’ve played genshin, star rail, and now this
I don't think weapons are going to matter much since most of the buffs are only totaling to 10-20% less than free ones (unless your multi-star it).
HI!! I hope anyone can answer my question, will a full Victoria Housekeeping Company team be good? I mean Ellen with Lycaon and Rina????
you literally form a team with the best DPS in the game, the best Stun in the game and the best Support in the game
so yea, pretty cracked if you ask me
I got Rina on standard at 50...shes very floaty so it takes some getting used to
Ellen for sure, looks good and had the same JP VA as my girl tove in Nikke
Zhu Yuan's playstyle fits me to a T, I love her animations/moveset... however it's hard for me to pass up on an edgy maid. My decision will solely hinge on whether or not I win the 50/50s, and how important the weapons will be for the endgame.
Neither of them have silver hair so im probably skipping them both. The cop chick does look good though
I don't even have to reroll. I got Ellen, her weapon, her pet in 30 pulls total. I thought the first ten pull were designed to always guarantee the S drops, but I was wrong. I also have Grace and Nekomiya from regular banner and I'm thinking about selling my account at this point lol
Ellen have at 2 other ice character you can get, zhu yuan only have 1 other ether and probably one faction character in her banner.