The Best F2P Teams for EVERY 5-Star Character | Zenless Zone Zero

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  • Опубліковано 10 лип 2024
  • In this video, Iyo breaks down The Top F2P Teams for 5-Star Characters in Zenless Zone Zero! ZZZ releases July 4th, and a lot of players are starting to ask what's The Best 5-Star Character to Choose & who are the best characters to build on their team. Here's what you need to know about EVERY Standard S-Rank / 5-Star Character in Zenless Zone Zero & their A-Rank teammates. Both for F2Ps who are looking to reroll & low-spenders who just want to know what characters give them their favorite results.
    Some notable mentions in this video include Lycaon, Rina, Grace, Koleda, Nekomata, Soldier 11, Ellen, and their overall value. This is Iyo's Beginner Guide to EVERY Standard 5-Star / S-Rank Character in Zenless Zone Zero.
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    0:00 Intro
    0:38 S-Rank Soldier 11
    4:10 S-Rank Lycaon
    8:20 S-Rank Koleda
    10:38 S-Rank Nekomata
    12:15 S-Rank Rina
    13:55 S-Rank Grace
    16:00 S-Rank Ellen
    19:27 S-Rank Zhu Yuan
    22:20 Final Team Recap
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  • @samya519
    @samya519 8 днів тому +406

    Youre literally carrying zenless zone zero youtube right now, im not debating with anyone. Keep it up good sir, ur DEF making me more excited more zzz than i already was!!

    • @IyoXS
      @IyoXS  8 днів тому +42

      That's a huge compliment! haha Thank you, Samya! I'm trying to carry it full release too. :D

    • @chilly_999
      @chilly_999 8 днів тому +13

      crazy how tectone is saying hes the only cc hype for zzz

    • @jellosoda7203
      @jellosoda7203 7 днів тому

      I agree fr best help on yt

    • @HorizonMediaGaming
      @HorizonMediaGaming 7 днів тому

      No debate will be had on this statement

    • @dylanxo689
      @dylanxo689 6 днів тому +1

      @@chilly_999 yea and yet we keep coming back watching his content

  • @sirscrubaliciousyt5954
    @sirscrubaliciousyt5954 7 днів тому +78

    “Lucy I’m gonna mention a few more times because she’s one of the best supports” Proceeds to recommend Ben for nearly everyone 😂😂 good video tho 🙏🏽

    • @otsdarvafoxxfyre
      @otsdarvafoxxfyre 5 днів тому +1

      I'm using Lucy all the time since I had no clue how Piper worked. (I'm a Nekomata main but I love using Ellen as well) Using Neko, Ellen, and Lucy is a bit overkill for my level, but Lucy is only giving a small attack buff to my team, but having a list of alternatives for when you'll eventually need to make an extra team gives you an idea of who else to pay attention to. The fact that it was Ben for the recommendation is kinda unexpected, but pretty cool that he's got some value outside of his crew.

  • @kanaki7809
    @kanaki7809 8 днів тому +67

    I'm really thankful that there's youtubers that give guides because I'm betting a lot of people are excited to play zzz for weeks and this just tells people how fun this game can be

  • @BeerusCatLitter
    @BeerusCatLitter 8 днів тому +65

    Your consistency is crazy fam, you’ve definitely been getting me more hyped towards this game 💪🏽

    • @IyoXS
      @IyoXS  8 днів тому +12

      I've been at my desk all day or all night. It's rooooouuuggghhh. lmao

  • @deedeesga34
    @deedeesga34 8 днів тому +13

    the fighting game comparisons you make along with consistency of content is really refreshing! im looking forward to your content as the game progresses :)

  • @tsuyuukikurenai
    @tsuyuukikurenai 6 днів тому +6

    oh wow . the explaining aside. those solo / team combo is sick asf . kudo for the helping

  • @mcclendon392
    @mcclendon392 7 днів тому +3

    Hey, I just wanted to say thank you for all of these videos. They have been so informative and helpful as a casual player that is nervous going into more of a fighting game but super excited. Thank you for hyping us up for ZZZ!

  • @ItstheLightBrite
    @ItstheLightBrite 7 днів тому +7

    I needed a good ZZZ youtuber to start watching when I start playing tomorrow and then you popped up. Perfection.

  • @CynicalScribbles
    @CynicalScribbles 2 дні тому

    Love how much passion you have for this game, man. Great info, and it all comes through loud and clear.

  • @flameofanor1415
    @flameofanor1415 8 днів тому +2

    Your videos are great, I love how you go in-depth on things.
    I cant wait for your vids after you do some in game testing tomorrow.

  • @Mtn_Do_Not
    @Mtn_Do_Not 7 днів тому

    Love your analysis of the game so far! I was already pretty hyped because the art, animation, music,etc and was already liking how the combat looked but the way you talk about the systems makes me even more excited! Also a fellow Cammy main, hell yeah.

  • @ZEUSTHEGOD___
    @ZEUSTHEGOD___ 7 днів тому

    Thanks to your content im know hyped for ZZZ, i will play it tomorrow (alr pre downloaded and pre registered) good luck with your pulls :D

  • @Zep2084
    @Zep2084 7 днів тому

    keep up the good content... you doin' it, thank you!

  • @akdrzllol1698
    @akdrzllol1698 8 днів тому +18

    1:07 you mentioned it before but it would be cool if she had some Jack-O type setups. That home run attack could be like Jack-O throwing her minions or she could have a defensive command that lets her time a parry with them.

    • @IyoXS
      @IyoXS  8 днів тому +7

      I want this to be discovered in the game so bad. LOL

  • @Edengoldengardens
    @Edengoldengardens 8 днів тому

    this the pre release vid i was lookin for

  • @DanielSantos-kt3xh
    @DanielSantos-kt3xh 8 днів тому +6

    My man with another banger vid🗿

    • @IyoXS
      @IyoXS  8 днів тому +3

      You already know!

  • @reydez84
    @reydez84 7 днів тому

    insane info bro.. good idea for a video thanks bro.

  • @dyothito
    @dyothito 8 днів тому

    I love your videos man, thanks for always giving information and help on people. I wish i can get Lycaon because is my fav character wont mind if he gets bad in the future. Always waiting for more videos

  • @KiikoVT
    @KiikoVT 2 дні тому

    Your videos are awesome and I've been learning a ton from them, so thank you so much for all the work you put in to making them. I have noticed tho that you haven't gone in to the Bangboos at all, so was wondering if you're planning on putting out a video on them?

  • @tricksterent
    @tricksterent 8 днів тому +1

    Boi u pumpin out these vids🔥🔥🔥

  • @AnnaAttemptsArt
    @AnnaAttemptsArt 6 днів тому

    Your voice is nice to listen to 😊 thanks for the info!

  • @CamiloSeptimo7
    @CamiloSeptimo7 3 дні тому

    You're really good explaining man 🗿 thanks 👍🏻

  • @BCMSunraku
    @BCMSunraku 5 днів тому

    this is so good
    .thanks man

  • @MelodyMusicXD
    @MelodyMusicXD 3 дні тому

    Love the video!! - helped a lot!

  • @Taqley
    @Taqley 8 днів тому

    Thank you, this is very helpful

  • @_choco.chibi_481
    @_choco.chibi_481 5 днів тому

    Starting the game today, gonna check this for sure

  • @fishdaimyo
    @fishdaimyo 6 днів тому

    YOUR HOLDINH ZZZ UP BY ITS SHOULDERSSSS omgg any other recommendations for corin? will you be doing a guide on all the atk/sup/ano type characters or anything like that? Corin is my absolute fav and im so glad shes a dps

  • @bamusalako
    @bamusalako 5 днів тому

    duuude you got my abo, youre a chill guy coming from the fighting scene and now exploiting ZZZ for us, i love it thank you

  • @GameProdigy_
    @GameProdigy_ 8 днів тому +2

    I appreciate this video since i never reroll at all because of rhe annoying process. Im hoping i get Grace and Rina so this guide helps in general for teams i need to build for them. Im obviously going for Zhu Yuan so i know who to start building ahead of time

  • @AIejam
    @AIejam 5 днів тому

    Thanks for the informative guide. I have no idea about the terms zzz uses and can't be bothered to lol

  • @superpichu9115
    @superpichu9115 8 днів тому

    My boi iyo alone carrying the ZZZ yt guides

  • @chinesesquidward
    @chinesesquidward 8 днів тому +4

    Aight I'll watch this video when I get a 5 star character

  • @HuH193
    @HuH193 8 днів тому +2

    Already watched this full yesterday 😂

  • @quaz_r
    @quaz_r 3 дні тому

    The death by glamour music while lycaon is kicking the living shit out of the enemies is amazing

  • @Cyberlord_Blaze
    @Cyberlord_Blaze 2 дні тому

    I personally wanted Lycaon or Grace for a couple reasons. But I wanted to have Lycaon more so after I played his demo, his combo with Nicole was actually very satisfying in my opinion. I was kind of in a conflict of finding what team I wanted to go for as I wasn't that interested in the Ellen full freeze team that's been booming recently. So when you mentioned in the end that I could use Zhu Yuan with Nicole and Lycaon my interest was peaked. I'm going to try and pull Zhu Yuan when she's available. Hopefully my luck won't turn on me, but you never know.

  • @JazzBoiiFGC
    @JazzBoiiFGC 8 днів тому

    Bro I love how Koleda plays, but I hate her design
    I'm so confused
    Would love a guide on how to reroll based on what we know from beta and launch rewards.. keep up the good work!

  • @flarpo11
    @flarpo11 4 дні тому +1

    I'm amazed by how good every character in the game is at launch. Like there's not a single weak unit in the entire game, it's nutty. There aren't any 5-stars that I might pull that I would be disappointed to get (no Bailu/Gepard/Yanqing in this Hoyo game). I happened to get Rina as my free 5-star and I was like AW YEAH, ANBY GO BZZZT, but I would've been just as happy with any other member of the roster. What a great lineup of characters right out of the gate, for real.

  • @yinnny1489
    @yinnny1489 4 дні тому

    Hey great video what do you think about you think about zhu nicole and grace as a team? To proc disorder with how fast grace stacks shock?

  • @JovianTon
    @JovianTon 7 днів тому

    good video !

  • @Mariuslorca
    @Mariuslorca 7 днів тому

    I hope you keep this kind of content Iyo and not go to drama route like most hoyo CC does

  • @arceltare
    @arceltare 7 днів тому

    I am so hype to play this later today! Hoping I get Grace early as I want to try running Grace, Anby, Nicole for my team.
    Best of luck to everyone pulling for Ellen. I hope the gacha god smiles upon you.

  • @ikatsuwu
    @ikatsuwu 7 днів тому

    niceee ZZZ channel +1 Iyo good video ;D

  • @itsjefferson4654
    @itsjefferson4654 2 дні тому

    Thanks for the ben rina and Anton team I was lookin for a team to put ben in until I pull koleda

  • @MiAGamerz404
    @MiAGamerz404 6 днів тому

    Good stuff.

  • @dononejeme1528
    @dononejeme1528 7 днів тому

    GET MY BOY TO 10k!!!!

  • @UnoMain
    @UnoMain 8 днів тому

    hey man love your content, i am really curious about how energy works in ZZZ, like i know it regenerates passively over time, but HOW MUCH...

  • @chillax319
    @chillax319 3 дні тому

    I hope I will manage get both Ellen and Nekomata during this banner. Neko is someone I wanted from the start and Ellen gameplay also looks cool. Didnt had much luck with pulls for them though. Got Coleda and Rina tho, especially Rina is fun and her skills range is insanely long. Lucy is pretty nice too her piggies stay on field even with her not being out.

  • @milhousmanastorm7591
    @milhousmanastorm7591 4 дні тому

    Crazy how I was already making the Nekomata and Lycaon teams before watching this lol

  • @raqciti430
    @raqciti430 4 дні тому

    Quick Question: I currently have a new account with Ellen and Rina (Ellen in first 30 summons. Rina from guarantee 5 star)
    Ill keep summoning on the general banner for Lycoan of course. But should i summon for Ellens weapon? Or save for Zhu?

  • @existDFN
    @existDFN 3 дні тому

    You haven’t mentioned. What A rank dps would you suggest to pair with koleda ben/lucy?

  • @ItsOnlySen
    @ItsOnlySen 4 дні тому

    So allegedly I made the best build for rina when I started playing the game and didn't understand anything that was going on. Cool!

  • @Moby313
    @Moby313 4 дні тому

    I got lucky and got Soldier 11 and Rina. Would Anby and stun be the best to place with those two S rank characters I got? I also got the drill arm electric guy and thought about taking out 11 for a full electric team with Rina, Anby, and drill arm man. So basically should I use 11, Rina, and Anby; or should I use drill arm man, Anby, and Rina for the mono electric team.

  • @chenwingsee
    @chenwingsee 5 днів тому

    The way I pulled Ellen with my first limited ten pull and now I'm praying for the wolf boy and her weapon to come home soon 🙏🙇

  • @KevinExoOfficial
    @KevinExoOfficial 7 днів тому

    10:52 that is a wild sentence to hear out of context about Nekomata. 😂

  • @Ray_Kaminari
    @Ray_Kaminari 8 днів тому +1

    This is basically about the 5 star we get from first 5 multi right ? And we still have a free 5 star to choose after that iirc
    So depending on which 5 star we get , what other 5 star should we be choosing because I think that would be most important for the first patch.
    Like if I get Rina I would ideally wanna go for grace ? Or maybe lycon ? For the attribute/faction respectively.

  • @munico6055
    @munico6055 4 дні тому

    Wouldn’t Anby be a better pick for the Rina team? Or did you pick Ben just for his passive ability?

  • @itsdrez6394
    @itsdrez6394 3 дні тому

    For anyone new who watches, partial spoiler got to a point where you trial Zhu Yuan and found in her kit she is not like other characters. Her passive is tied to having another faction teammate or a SUPPORT type teammate meaning she is not tied to only Nicole. Don't know if anyone else has caught this yet and spread the word.

  • @remu002
    @remu002 8 днів тому

    i always hate the day before a game release or big update like wuwa release firefly release or zzz release cuz knowing that tomorrow is the day i wont be able to sleep it feels so bad to go to bed i cant sleep

  • @deniskornja762
    @deniskornja762 6 днів тому

    This helps a lot thank you very much 😊. I got Nekomata and honestly didn't know what team i should run. The game is completely unplayable bytheway it's crushing non stop on my pathetic flagship phone so I'm playing at PC. Honestly idk why is that bad optimized on Android.

  • @Aperson55502
    @Aperson55502 4 дні тому

    Okay this is so off topic but the omori osts on 10:44 and 13:58 AND ESP 15:59 (i love a home for flowers sm) are a huge w

  • @mollykimm
    @mollykimm 8 днів тому +3

    10HRS TO GOOOOO

  • @dr.strange1300
    @dr.strange1300 4 дні тому

    Thankfully now, Qingyi (Zhu Yuans partner) is literally the first character of 1.1. So now Zhu Yuan will be able to fill out that faction AND attribute buff (since Nicole is ether and Qingyi is electric)

  • @Scurrydog
    @Scurrydog 8 днів тому

    Does this take into consideration the new changes (almost all buffs) for 1.0 release ?

  • @cerberus6400
    @cerberus6400 День тому

    Such a good choice in theme for Lycaon, Death by Glamour because.... LEG.

  • @methuselah1005
    @methuselah1005 7 днів тому

    Could you please make a Rina guide (how to play her properly and all). I got her but I can't get around how to get her dolls to stay off field. Ty~

  • @SirLexion
    @SirLexion 5 днів тому

    I just got Rina in a lucky pull and I personally am going all out for Von cause I need! I know the ice Oni is good with him but wouldn’t it also just be a fantastic choice to use Rina with Von and Corin as well?

  • @YokhudoMhixid
    @YokhudoMhixid 6 днів тому

    quality stuff!

  • @Condensed_rock
    @Condensed_rock 7 днів тому +1

    I got nekomata at 20 pulls then her again 40 pulls later.. i dont know if i should be happy or pissed

  • @dapperdude1550
    @dapperdude1550 7 днів тому +1

    I got soldier 11 from my beginner s rank! So hyped to build a fire squad! I even got Lucy from my first 10 pull! Just gotta get Piper🔥

    • @metalunderground2020
      @metalunderground2020 6 днів тому +1

      I also got Soldier 11. I was concerned because I kept hearing she had a high skill level to play her properly, but when I found out it was just having her attacks done in a rhythm, I was ready to let loose. I love rhythm games, so I love her.

    • @dapperdude1550
      @dapperdude1550 4 дні тому

      @@metalunderground2020 Oh nice! I’m fairly into rhythm games (I love Hifi rush) so I think once I figure out the timing for 11’s attacks, I’ll be setting my enemies on fire hahaha

  • @gong-hl7fw
    @gong-hl7fw 5 днів тому

    Thanks man

  • @advendra6078
    @advendra6078 8 днів тому

    This is a really good guide, cause people gonna get random 5 stars char

  • @pixelarian414
    @pixelarian414 8 днів тому +2

    Hey, I actually plan on making Lycaon my main and not using an attack agent like Ellie or Corin. I was thinking on Lycaon, Soukaku and Rina/Lucy. Do you think I'll be able to clear all endgame content on hardest difficulty or is it bonkers to not use a main dps?

    • @haruyanto8085
      @haruyanto8085 8 днів тому +1

      Depends on the endgame if it favours his element then yes, same like genshin and hsr, shiyu defense will promote whatever character is currently on rate up
      For other endgames we'll have to wait and see but it should be clearable

  • @nothin7617
    @nothin7617 5 днів тому

    W music selection

  • @benjaminzapata1921
    @benjaminzapata1921 5 днів тому

    Can I get an opinion on a Neko, Reina, Anby comp? Faction buff for neko with anby and shock buff for the back line characters.

  • @NLANDXP
    @NLANDXP 7 днів тому

    Isn't the game going to be re speced and updated on release day?

  • @PastelNightmare-
    @PastelNightmare- 6 днів тому

    I got Lycaon on my first pull, and I want to pull for Ellen and then rina, since the faction buff and I get a great amount of coverage for Two ice users one stun and one dps, and an electric support, so if I get that team I think I’ll be happy for life. I want to pair them with the Butler boo, and if you couldn’t tell, I love Victoria Housekeeping XD

  • @neelynilly
    @neelynilly 5 днів тому

    If I can get Ellen for Lycaon, would Rina also be a good fit for the team? I'd assume they would be but I just wanna check.

  • @samya519
    @samya519 8 днів тому +4

    What were to happen if I put rina and ellen on one team? I really like all the victoria housekeeping commission characters and will try to get ellen but if i were to get rina, is there a way to use ellen too?

    • @IyoXS
      @IyoXS  8 днів тому +4

      Pure DMG is what happens if you put them together and get really creative with your combos. I think team variety in this game is gonna be huge.

  • @vungocanh3712
    @vungocanh3712 7 днів тому

    Plan on going no 5* or Grace my waifu only run like my HSR's FF one n only. Do you have any suggestion on what to invest?

  • @xHeatStrikex
    @xHeatStrikex 5 днів тому

    Grace and anthon are not good with Anby? Cuz u didnt mention her in grace team

  • @user-bs4vk4dk1y
    @user-bs4vk4dk1y 8 днів тому

    Definitely gonna try to get nekomata

  • @haruyanto8085
    @haruyanto8085 8 днів тому +4

    Lyca is the best choice to reroll for, he will pretty much be mandatory for all ice teams in the future, Soukaku as well to some extent, Grace got some potential, lots of CN tc rating her pretty highly, Rina is like Lyca but for shock teams tho rn no real shock dps, nekomata solid dps but could be powercept a lot faster than the others
    Fire seems the weakest for now, so I'd reroll if i got soldier 11 or koleda unless theyre fun to play

    • @avionu3122
      @avionu3122 7 днів тому

      Should i reroll anyway if i got soldier 11, Lucy, and piper within the pulls given.

  • @CoviYello
    @CoviYello 3 дні тому

    When do you get any of these characters?

  • @huilokoil6419
    @huilokoil6419 7 днів тому

    I had so much luck as a free to play pulled rina and grace.
    They are pretty good in a team rigth?

  • @gub__gub
    @gub__gub 6 днів тому +2

    bruh I can't get a single new a rank character!!! it's ao doomed!!! 😭😭😭 i have nekomata but nothing else!!!!

  • @BoopBedoop-ch4tw
    @BoopBedoop-ch4tw 8 днів тому

    Game comes out 10 tonight! (for na east) remember to download!

  • @Nikorasu737
    @Nikorasu737 7 днів тому

    Pulled Lyacon, not a huge fan of Ellen so pairing him with Corin 🙂‍↕️ but would piper or soukaku be better as the third slot?

  • @satansify.
    @satansify. 7 днів тому +1

    Does rerolling means u need new id?

  • @ctrlyoee
    @ctrlyoee 5 днів тому

    I have E1S1 Grace and just got Ellen who is the best 3rd slot for this team if I still don’t have Lycaon cause i want both waifus in one team

  • @bgue-z7e
    @bgue-z7e 3 дні тому

    is ben enough and viable replacement for stun characters?

  • @tiller3777
    @tiller3777 8 днів тому

    man even with the game coming tomorrow I'm still torn on going for either Ellen or Zhu Yuan. Coming from Star Rail Ik how good it is to go for an investment character and reap the rewards later(ended up skipping the first Ruan Mei banner which was a huge mistake). Even though I want both I'm gonna see who my first 5 star is to help make that decision.

  • @l0st1nv0id
    @l0st1nv0id 5 днів тому +2

    Have some questions about Nekomata team building. So, it happens that I got a 5* support weapon Weeping Cradle, which increases the team damage by a pretty substantial amount. Would Nicole be the BiS in Neko + Piper team considering Nicole’s also E2? Also, regarding Anby as the last slot, wouldn’t Billy be technically better than her cuz he’s also physical, so more Assault procs? I also have Lycaon but I don’t think I can effectively fit him into Neko team

    • @BlazeLibra
      @BlazeLibra 4 дні тому +1

      Daze is important so stick to Anby. That weapon can find good use elsewhere.
      Regarding the idea of a mono element team, it can work but triggering Disorder can easily give you more damage. Theres a video by nakfrg showing how Assault + Disorder can straight up oneshot enemies, and compete with the strongest Ellen composition right now

    • @l0st1nv0id
      @l0st1nv0id 4 дні тому

      @@BlazeLibra hmm how about Neko + Piper + Lucy? No stunner, but Lucy apparently is pretty strong at applying burn, so they have pretty good disorder potential?

    • @BlazeLibra
      @BlazeLibra 3 дні тому

      ​@@l0st1nv0id Yeah thats probably stronger, honestly. I think Assault buffs daze anyways so it should work
      an additional note about mono element teams, there are exceptions and that exception is Ellen, Soukaku, and dog

    • @BlazeLibra
      @BlazeLibra 3 дні тому

      AYO JUST IN TIME m.ua-cam.com/video/G21iyusxQdo/v-deo.html (nekomata guide)

  • @hue_m1rr0r47
    @hue_m1rr0r47 6 днів тому

    is Rina also good with Anby? cuz the same element

  • @PixelMin
    @PixelMin 8 днів тому

    My team in thumbnail but that silhouette does not look like shark maid... iyo dont tell me you are from the future

  • @Bllssxfull
    @Bllssxfull 6 днів тому

    Can you use stun caharcters as a dps? Ik its prob not optimal but i got koleda and i think shes so cool. And I have Ben so XD

  • @CharizardIsTheGoat
    @CharizardIsTheGoat 5 днів тому

    13:11 also how cool is Anton? He is literally Kamina from Gurenn Lagen what with his drill bit, his look and his comments about revving it up

  • @etchbekey
    @etchbekey 6 днів тому

    i got grace on the discount banner and not lycan so i pivoted from planning an Ice team to an Electric team

  • @pustocvetie
    @pustocvetie 7 днів тому

    Great, ty

  • @CharizardIsTheGoat
    @CharizardIsTheGoat 5 днів тому

    I’ve been playing Neko with Lucy and now Piper wheel and they are an amazing team setup to play with. Yes you miss out on the cunning hares buff for neko but piper builds anomaly for neko and Lucy’s piggie buffs are great for neko. Before I got piper I was using Ben like you suggested as he is amazingly fun to use and actually a lot faster than I expected him to be

    • @AndergroundG3
      @AndergroundG3 5 днів тому +1

      You dont lose the buff for neko tho, since piper shares the same element, is a great team, just without much daze

  • @Solozocker
    @Solozocker 6 днів тому

    Actually for grace i would recommend not using ben and using anby instead to avoid replacing your shock since grace's whole thing is the shock application and anton can retrigger the original shock proc (think Kafka) you can have grace on high anomaly proficiency to increase the initial shock damage and then repeat that with anton. (Makes it so you need to trigger the shock with grace tho which would need some planning).