I lived in France for 10 years and was an electrician, at every tip you could dispose of any rubbish free of charge. as long a plasterboard was separate. Even abestos as long it was double bagged. Low and behold no fly tipping, the uk makes me sick if it was free it would be a thing of the past. Councils moan it cost £0000’s to clean up, but won’t let you tip for free, there is just no logic.
In fairness when tipping was free people still fly tipped. They simply couldnt be bothered to go to the tip because the hedge was closer. The same as they throw litter out the car window a meter or two from a bin. Who teaches kids not to drop litter these days?
@@gbwildlifeuk8269 It's the same with dog shit.. Folk pick it up, bag it then launch it! Why even bother picking it up then? I'm a dog owner and my dog's shit is picked up and put in a bin..
@@BestUserNameUK lol....I can't tell you how much that bothers me. The amount of times I've seen full poo bags tied to branches of trees when out for a walk at the weekend. The f@*k is wrong with people?
You guys are so engaging. I had a skip on the street for a rear patio. After about 3 days someone through two white bin bags in of kitchen waste, rotten meat. Obviously they didn't want it in their bin but it meant we had this in the skip for weeks. The contractors doing the job just piled stuff on. Then the flies came. I was tempted to cut it open and find a letter and redeliver the bag but I couldn't bring myself to open a bag of old meat!
On a lighter note if i may! And slightly off topic. About 3 years ago i got a small job to take up an old water damaged floor on a really small terraced house in Edmonton Nth London. I took up the old flooring as it had had it, and the floorboards and joists below had rotted aswell so up they came aswell. Under the floor was an unusually deep space. And it was a goldmine of dumped rubbish from the 1940's. An old pram, boxes of books, newspapers, cutlery, unopened tins of food, rubber childrens gas mask's! All sorts! It was amazing. And all in great condition. We called the Imperials War Museum to see if they would be interested in any of the old artefacts but they said they already had loads. Interesting find. Cheers again guys.
As a builder , I now allocate an amount of skips to a job ie 3 skips , If the client needs 4 skips i give them the receipts and they pay for the additional skips , Im sick of them filling the skips up on my tab . so i never take the hit on the waste anymore
No way any builder should take a hit on skips; it's not your rubbish it's part of the job! Absolutely it's on the client to pay for as many skips as are required.
Really nice vid, love the idea of scrap board in walls never thought of that but it seems so obvious now! Will be using that tip when doing the downstairs of my house
Working on the Western Isles I heard a comment from a local replying too a visitor who had complained about all the crap lying about. " You say you can't see the view for all the crap, but we can't see the crap for the view." Great show, this memory came to me when you discussed other countries attitudes.
Around here, our local council takes actions that encourage it, fly tipping increased locally here. Because they stopped homeowners with vans, trailers and larger cars from using the local waste disposal site, introduced a permit system and setup ANPR cameras, so now loads more waste is being dumped which previously was being disposed of properly.
We've got the opposite here our local tip allows vans and trailers and never questions origin of waste I see lads blatantly been stripping out old terraces in there all the time bit cheeky but saves on fly tipping
I took 2 old tyres to tip the other day and was told it will be £5 each tyre to dispose of them, or I could put them in a black bag and dump them in domestic waste for free. So you try to do the right thing and the system encourages you to dispose of them irresponsibly . I thought that recycle centres actually made money from the recycling so why charge me when they will get paid for it.
I took some old semi-empty paint cans to the tip a while back. Didn't cost me much, but the lady was surprised and asked me "why didn't you just throw them out with domestic waste"
I'm also a real stickler for what I call "skip discipline". It really grinds my gears the way some people just sling the rubbish in a skip. I'm always climbing in and tidying it up. I'm like a broken record - "you'd be a bit more fu**ing careful if you were paying for the fu**ing skips". The young lads look at me like i've been let out for the day.
Yes you are right they don't pay for it so what the hell. I wish I could find some way of disposing of Celotex offcuts, it breaks my heart to see a skip filled up with insulation.
I'm exactly the same Nick. My skips are loaded with precision its the way you have to be. I've seen baths in skips facing downwards so then theres a big void. It might take up a small bit of time but its worth doing correctly.
I SO agree with you Nick. Only HEAVT stuff and rammed into every last part of the skip. Cardboard and plastic can be recycled, clean rubble and soil sold or given away.
Amazing how much useful stuff builders throw in the skip, wood especially, insulation board cutoffs. Any bits of metal, pipes, old taps etc leave out for the scrappie. Not worth weighing in yourself but the scrappie's vanload is and better to recycle than bury. I have to say I can't pass a skip without looking in! When my son's had rewiring, the electrician left all his rubbish under the floors. I cleaned it up when I did work there and actually found some useful stuff, even the odd brand new fitting!
Hi guys all great stuff.just listening to your podcast on rubbish clearance, we are builders and designers and talking about fly tipping, I think the way to help reduce fly tipping is to lower the cost of rubbish clearance if not you will never stop fly tipping and let anyone in with any waste. Good luck lads keep up the great work.kind regards Wow interiors Bedford.
Hello Guys, I now live in Australia, originally from Kent. Yesterday was Good Friday, it was pouring down, so I thought I would look on UA-cam as there was nothing on the TV. I came across some of your videos, 6 hours later I thought I d better have some dinner. After dinner I watched some more. Totally enjoyed seeing both of you, I'm a Chippie, keep the Vids coming. All the best.
Thanks for this video I'm a bathroom and kitchen fitter only been doing it 5 years but never heard of the waste license which really affects us as when a costume can't get a skip on there drive I offer to put it on mine to save them paying to have it on the road which means we're transporting there waste on a weekly basis. Thanks for the heads up 👍🏻
I've just hired a skip to clear waste from a minor bathroom refurb and general de-cluttering of the house - filled it up most of the way as soon as it arrived expecting neighbours to start dumping their crap in there as well. Lo and behold, the next morning it had LESS stuff in it than when I left it in the evening. Upon inspection anything metal had been removed, clearly someone foraging for scrap. Fine by me; they get £2.50 for the scrap and I get 15% of my skip's volume back again, win win!
I live in Denmark... We have to have a skip for each type of building rubbish, wood, masonry, soil etc... If you mix it they charge you for manually sorting it. I had an experience where I had to pay £1800 for someone who put some other rubbish in a skip that was for masonry. As for pallets... We pay £12 per pallet and then get £6 for each pallet we return to the building suppliers. We also have waste disposal centers which are free for the general public and trades people pay a yearly fee of £120 to dispose of rubbish.
An issue for local authorities, is some builders washing down cement and sand etc. into road gullies and causing blockages. This costs them and therefore council taxpayers, 100's of thousands a year to clear from drains. Often, the road has to be excavated to clear the cement that has hardened. It's as 'out of site, out of mind' attitude.
Working on sites for years I noticed how much materials that go to waste that others may benefit from, Part of me wonders how easy it would be to create a company that collects these materials from sites, stores them for the public to buy for theirown projects, I know of people with waste carrying license that still fly tip, people in the rubbish collection industry should be given paperwork from the builder that needs to be signed for at the refuse collection center. Also like normal public recycling perhaps sites can have seperate bins for different rubbish to save getting it mixed
There was a company in Romford that used to buy up the ends of ranges of bathroom suites so, most of the time they could match an obsolete colour. Even charging a premium that was a lot of good storage space being taken up by low value items and they couldn't justify the opportunity costs of tying up all that land.
Well you say "used to be" so I assume they are gone now, I meant mainly timbers, bricks, hardcore, insulation etc. Give robin a nudge tell him I'm still waiting to have a word about this clothing 😉
05:10 Knowing this.. I would like to ask if the mold or water contact and alot of time in humid condition .. Plaster board will be as toxic as not to have it in your house? How is that legal?
Soil and hardcore are £20 a transit size tipper load at my local waste transfer site , woods about £30-£40 greens about £10 a ton bag or £40 a full load . Hardly ever use skips for landscaping now even with billing for my time and fuel still works out cheaper than skip and avoids annoying neighbours and sneakynight time fillers
I had a long email chat with Croydon council trying to reason with them that it must be better making a nominal charge to accept rubbish from small to medium size builders than pay thousands cleaning up. Not Interested Crazy!! John
Down here, in Dorset , we have had a lot of travellers set up in various places and you often see a flat bed truck at the site with the caravans and when they do finally go there are piles of rubble and crap because they have been driving round looking for people to charge for "disposal" .
I go to farm in tarbock area of Merseyside were charged £20 per waste like of green waste where chipper green waste, seive soil and crush the build waste. Which sell the those materials. Build merchants and garden centres.
Got into trouble for fly tipping a few years back. Paid a guy to take it away, next thing I no I am being hauled in front of the council to explain myself. Lesson learned, didn't no anything about waste carrier licenses.
A builder working in London near where i live .Because they come from Doncaster,when they have anough timeber from a loft convertion, they take it back to Doncaster to a timber recycling firm.
John players specials you used to get them in a black plastic oblong sort of tub aswell, remember used to use it to store my colouring in pens when I was younger. I hate the rubbish tipping aswell especially when you see a kid walking along with there parents & just throw it on the pavement and the pare t doesn't even say anything drives me bonkers. Podcasts are great lads all the best 👏👏👏👍
“We “forgot” to regulate the really big polluters like industry, agriculture and shipping, and “forgot” to collect taxes from all those corporations, banks and shareholders, so now all the money went offshore instead of back into the economy. Surely you must understand that fleecing working people under the guise of environmental regulation is the only recourse we have left to fill the coffers, because our labour costs just keep going up (...).”
Hi, I live in the north of England, and we have a tip that will take all rubbish including tires, asbestos, building waste and every other thing you can think of at no cost to the public we even get a skip provided once a month for people who cannot get to the tip. But we still get prats dumping rubbish where it shouldn't be, the latest was about 200 yards (0.18 km) from the tip. I think it is about time we shot fly tippers, you would not need to kill very many before the others got the message.
The downside of putting plasterboard waste inside stud walls is weight - need to ensure that the floor supporting the stud wall doesn't get further overloaded - which is easily forgotten if a whole load of unplanned extra dead load goes in.
No problems in Derbyshire boys. You can go into the local council recycling depot & get rid of all your building waste. The only thing they are strict about is rubble, which is weird as that’s the one thing they can sell!
I'm glad I watched your podcast as I've ordered an 8 yrd skip for next week and was going to put some plasterboard in it it along with a load of household waste. Didn't even consider asking the supplier about restrictions as I told him that it would be mixed waste with rubble, gravel top soil and other household rubbish. I'm up in the North East and I've got an 8yrd skip for £190 which seems to be the going rate here.
Anyone know of any recycling scheme to get rid of polystyrene packaging in a better way? There is so much of this in the kitchen and bathroom fitting business. All the appliances,etc covered in it. Half the skip ends up full of waste polystyrene.
Passenger footwell often looks like a skip as I refuse to litter. So every 2-3 days I end up with empty water bottles serviettes sand which packets etc as us self employed are always eating between jobs etc
Here in Japan many things end up dumped over the side of a steep hill on a country road. Not just professionals but the regulations are hard on the average person as well. All trash must be put out in specially labeled trash bags according to type that you need to buy. Certain items must be dropped off at special locations, certain larger items you must pay someone to come and haul it away, other types of items you must go to the city office and purchase seals to affix to the items and have a scheduled pick up. Many people just sneak out in the night (in the middle of the city here) and just dump stuff on the curb to become the problem of someone else. When I see things in the trash that don't have seals I can take it, take it apart, keep parts I can use and throw away the other bits properly. When I have had large items that need to be tossed I go at it with a hammer, saw, whatever it takes to break it down into bits that will fit in the city bags so I can throw it away proper without having to pay for the disposal seals. I have even taken a tele to bits to separate the components to put out in the city bags because those can be quite a cost to throw away. I'm currently taking apart a sofa, using the padding to fix the worn out padding in my bed and will be using the wooden framing bits for other projects. Here is a 4 page PDF outlining how the average citizen must dispose of things in my city, it makes my head spin! www.city.nagoya.jp/en/cmsfiles/contents/0000022/22536/English.pdf
Had my old kitchen in my van, worktops etc. So, went to the tip, permit in the van. Guy goes, "oh is that your kitchen or someone elses"? I didn't bite. I said, "I've got a permit", "doesn't matter he says". I said, "yes I'm it's mine", which it was, it was a van, but I just drive a van. No big deal. "You a tradesman" he said, "no", I said, "oh your vans commercial". I said "yeah", you guys accepted my request for a permit". "Oh ok let you on this time but next time wel turn you away"? What the fuck man you get treated like a fuckin criminal for trying to do the right thing now days. people don't have time for that or ask for abuse am rudeness, specially when you have gone through all the hassle of getting a permit, using it, doing the right thing in the first place, because even when you do now your still wrong somehow. Don't get me started on trailers. The long an short is the vehicles are given to much focus, my Mrs doesn't ask me to use a certain method or tell me to use roller skates to put the bins out. Your at the right place, to put the the right material in the right container, on a fucking Sunday, trying to do the right thing, for people who don't two hoots about us (the local authority/council) taken time out of your limited free time because of having to work, an they wanna know where it's come from an tell you there not happy with your vehicle?? The fuck is wrong with the council. Even when you do it right your wrong. They might as well be an extension of the Police. control driven fucktards
Our local tip, sorry recycling centre, has a fly-tipping issue in the lane right outside. It's in the sticks and there's always buckets, sheets of ply and old bags of cement thrown in the bushes.
I loaded a 8 yard skip with clay and hardcore, to made more space I put the hose on it to wet it down for a couple of hours to make it slump. The skip lorry pulled one of the lugs off the side skip !! 🇬🇧
I had a skip of chalk rubble and concrete so well packed and wetted and layered and trodden down that there was no air left in it. Slight tump but it conformed to the level load only. I wasn’t there when it was picked up and the skip driver was calling me all the cunts under the sun ,but the big hole punched in next doors drive from the support wheel was
I love the latest UA-cam app - it overwrites subtitles on the thumbnail video. This one says Hello, it's Rajat Bisby here! Old Roger's got a tan like but come on!?
Good grief, you say a skip costs £300 now, the last time I hired a skip it was £160. But when I first started in the building WAY back in the late 60's a 6yds skip was £10.00. Those were the days.
Good to see you get furious about the casual littering. The road verges coming up to round a bouts in West London where I live are filled with litter and makes my blood boil. Plastic waste everywhere. :-((
It really needs a cash incentive, not a charge to bring in rubbish and absolutely punitive costs to those who are caught fly tipping. Not just a slap on the wrist. Lorry gone, house gone! Whatever it takes!
@@SkillBuilder I don't think so, I think it had been there for quite some time. Just that thing of people chucking rubbish under the floorboards taken to an extreme. I don't think it was as funny for them as the amount of junk under there was causing the rot. as it stopped the airflow.
I've dug up worse stuff than plasterboard from my garden that someone from years ago buried, thinking that was the end of it!Why don't people put a sign by a skip offering stuff for free before it's skipped?I picked up 2 decent double glazed wooden windows that I used when I built my workshop!Happy days!🙂👍
You can't put plasterboard in a skip with other waste as it produces the toxic gas, hydrogen sulphate if it mixes with organic waste. You can however hire board only skips, or grab bags to keep it seperate. On the subject of fly tipping the title reminds me of a friend who went fly fishing. Last time he went he caught a 2lb blue bottle!
I was working on a renovation in 2018, and a dentist dumped his rubbish in one of our skips, so my boss at the time said to me, take it out and leave it beside the skip, so the council came a few days later, and we said the dentist dumped it in the skip and he had no authority to do so, and the dentist got the fine
Local traders in these parts (Cornwall) tend to do jobs on the proviso the customer gets rid of the waste which is fair enough as I can take an old loo to the tip for free whereas it costs them to do it in a van and they'd have to pass the cost to me anyway. As for the ubiquitous McDonald's waste, until recently we were 25miles from the nearest one but still found bags and cups in the country lanes ...some lazy sod does a 50mile round trip just to dump their crap on the verge. .....and breathe .....
The local skip company I use the price varies by as much as £30.00 depending on who in the yard you speak to. Incidentally my dad was a graphic designer and he used to work for players down in Nottingham the gold JPS logo that went on the cigarette packets and the formula 1 cars was his design.
Hi guys. I can relate to this vid on the rubbish. We come across this problem week in week out. Have you guys done any vids on plunge saws.looking for advice on a new plunge saw. I'm a dewalt man but I'm not sure what the best plunge saw to go for.
What if you park the skip lorry with the skip on board on the street then have everything ready to go if possible. Then there’s no need for a licence and no daily fee. Might be a bit hard to load though up that high. 😋
Saying about cans thrown out the car on the roadside, I've a theory.....young lad driving around with his mates, have a drink in the car-gets home puts the empty cans of beer/red bull whatever(nitro canisters) in the recycling bin...... Mum or dad has a right old go at son for all the beer he's been drinking. Next day he's out - guess where he's getting rid of his cans?
Local authorities have a terribly discriminatory attitude toward "trade waste", charging more and more, while "household waste" is disposed of free. Surely waste is waste and every producer ought to pay their way. After all, what article of waste hasn't originated in a trade of some kind.
@@dorianleakey I guess it depends on your local authority. There is no charge for household waist disposal where I live, over and above the council tax. You can turn up with a Range Rover and the biggest trailer it will tow, no one bats an eye. Appear in a wee van and you are hooked up to a polygraph and thumb screws, before being charged a flat rate, regardless of quantity presented. I do not see the logic in this discrimination.
They are mad for licences here. Licences are licences to commit a crime plus the fees that go with it. All our plastic is sent over seas. We can get the bulk bags at the hardware stores and they come and pick up with a crane truck. Cheers lads
Government regulation causes something to be very expensive and hard to find! Wow that's never happened before. Who's getting rich due to the regulation? That's who is influencing the government.
Has a past flat roofer we used to find old news papers in-between the ceiling and the roof boards this used to give us an idea when it was last reroofed they were a good reading some going back to the early 70S On one job we were doing a full strip and re deck on a office block and found some naughty photos above suspended ceiling in a toilet and we left a little note with them just to say who ever these photographs belong to we know what you are up to haha I bet that took the smile of his face
I’m currently preparing the groundwork for a new 10x8 shed workshop in my back garden. There was a fair amount of rockery stone and soil to remove, plus a Holly tree. So, I hired a 6yd General Waste skip. I was a little disappointed to see on the delivery ticket that ‘No Tree Stumps or Roots over 5cm’ was allowed. 5cm seems a bit stingy...especially when I can take items like this to my local tip and dump it in the green waste bay for free. I despise anyone who fly tips and the penalties should be severe; at least confiscation and crushing of the vehicle used. My local tip charges £3 a bag for soil or rubble and £3 an item, say for a sink or toilet bowl. That said, in Bristol where my daughter lives, most waste disposal at the tip is free but you are restricted to making only one visit per week. Hence Bristol has a particularly bad reputation for building and furniture rubbish lying about the streets. More needs to be done on this issue and councils should work together and harder to find a solution.
Not quite true. While not being a statute law, there can be a local council by law banning it as there is in smokeless zones. The actual law states the burning must take place on open land, not produce excessive smoke and must take place where the waste was produced. So you cant bring waste from a job and burn it in your garden. The acid test is start the bonfire. If a neighbour complains youll see the fire service arrive and put it out and you wont be able to stop them.
I watch a channel "The Handyman", he's in the US and in one video he goes to the tip, everything thrown on one big pile, no sorting stuff and he paid according to the weight.
iam a75your old joiner since iwas 15about bad cliants ive been knocked several times heers 1 teltale other tradsmen have left tools and equepment on site witch the cliant would never buy eg a top qual dewalt drill with no charger
What the bloody hell is in plasterboard. I was told if you soak it right down it can go in the skip. Probably not true. I only use hot lime now. Restoration and conservation work.
Its a panel made of calcium sulfate dehydrate, with or without additives. The plaster is mixed with fiber, usually paper or fibreglass or a combination of both and plastizer, foaming agent, and various additives that can reduce mildew, flammability and water absorption. When mixed with degradable waste it can produce the toxic gas, hydrogen sulphide. When recycled it can be reused to make plasterboard again.
I'd thought plasterboard was separated because it might contain asbestos, and for recycling to make more plasterboard, but no, it makes Hydrogen Sulphide if mixed with organic waste, which in large quantities could poison you or burn - but small quantities in my garden are OK i think. It smells of rotten eggs because that's what the gas in rotten eggs (and farts and added to mains gas) is. A bit of googling told me this. thanks Roger.
You would be amazed at the household waste I rot down on my allotment for compost I have six bins you can never fill the worms do all the work 24 7 365
It can be difficult. Particularly if you're working away from home where you don't know folks. Customers are always shocked learning how much clear up costs too. I let them know before we start of course. Roger, I see you're doing a talk at Exeter tool fair this month. If I see you, be warned, I'm gonna come say hello! ;)
I lived in France for 10 years and was an electrician, at every tip you could dispose of any rubbish free of charge. as long a plasterboard was separate. Even abestos as long it was double bagged. Low and behold no fly tipping, the uk makes me sick if it was free it would be a thing of the past. Councils moan it cost £0000’s to clean up, but won’t let you tip for free, there is just no logic.
My council are selective about recycling too. For example if you have a pizza box in the recycling they won't take the bin..
In fairness when tipping was free people still fly tipped. They simply couldnt be bothered to go
to the tip because the hedge was closer. The same as they throw litter out the car window a meter or two from a bin. Who teaches kids not to drop litter these days?
@@gbwildlifeuk8269 It's the same with dog shit.. Folk pick it up, bag it then launch it! Why even bother picking it up then? I'm a dog owner and my dog's shit is picked up and put in a bin..
@@BestUserNameUK lol....I can't tell you how much that bothers me. The amount of times I've seen full poo bags tied to branches of trees when out for a walk at the weekend. The f@*k is wrong with people?
You guys are so engaging.
I had a skip on the street for a rear patio. After about 3 days someone through two white bin bags in of kitchen waste, rotten meat. Obviously they didn't want it in their bin but it meant we had this in the skip for weeks. The contractors doing the job just piled stuff on. Then the flies came. I was tempted to cut it open and find a letter and redeliver the bag but I couldn't bring myself to open a bag of old meat!
On a lighter note if i may! And slightly off topic. About 3 years ago i got a small job to take up an old water damaged floor on a really small terraced house in Edmonton Nth London. I took up the old flooring as it had had it, and the floorboards and joists below had rotted aswell so up they came aswell. Under the floor was an unusually deep space. And it was a goldmine of dumped rubbish from the 1940's. An old pram, boxes of books, newspapers, cutlery, unopened tins of food, rubber childrens gas mask's! All sorts! It was amazing. And all in great condition. We called the Imperials War Museum to see if they would be interested in any of the old artefacts but they said they already had loads. Interesting find. Cheers again guys.
As a builder , I now allocate an amount of skips to a job ie 3 skips , If the client needs 4 skips i give them the receipts and they pay for the additional skips , Im sick of them filling the skips up on my tab . so i never take the hit on the waste anymore
No way any builder should take a hit on skips; it's not your rubbish it's part of the job! Absolutely it's on the client to pay for as many skips as are required.
Really nice vid, love the idea of scrap board in walls never thought of that but it seems so obvious now! Will be using that tip when doing the downstairs of my house
Good content. Drives my thinking on two counts. One the recyling which Robin spoke to. Then designing to ruthlessly minimise waste. Useful discussing.
Working on the Western Isles I heard a comment from a local replying too a visitor who had complained about all the crap lying about. " You say you can't see the view for all the crap, but we can't see the crap for the view." Great show, this memory came to me when you discussed other countries attitudes.
Around here, our local council takes actions that encourage it, fly tipping increased locally here.
Because they stopped homeowners with vans, trailers and larger cars from using the local waste disposal site, introduced a permit system and setup ANPR cameras, so now loads more waste is being dumped which previously was being disposed of properly.
South Wales?
We've got the opposite here our local tip allows vans and trailers and never questions origin of waste I see lads blatantly been stripping out old terraces in there all the time bit cheeky but saves on fly tipping
Agree its everywhere, So I started using an app called 'Fix my street'
you can report fly-tipping etc. with photos & text.
I took 2 old tyres to tip the other day and was told it will be £5 each tyre to dispose of them, or I could put them in a black bag and dump them in domestic waste for free. So you try to do the right thing and the system encourages you to dispose of them irresponsibly . I thought that recycle centres actually made money from the recycling so why charge me when they will get paid for it.
I took some old semi-empty paint cans to the tip a while back. Didn't cost me much, but the lady was surprised and asked me "why didn't you just throw them out with domestic waste"
These podcasts make my commute to Bristol easy!! Keep them coming fellas! Total quality.
Thank you Lee. It is a new venture for us into Podcast Land so it is good to hear they are being heard.
I'm also a real stickler for what I call "skip discipline". It really grinds my gears the way some people just sling the rubbish in a skip. I'm always climbing in and tidying it up.
I'm like a broken record - "you'd be a bit more fu**ing careful if you were paying for the fu**ing skips".
The young lads look at me like i've been let out for the day.
Yes you are right they don't pay for it so what the hell. I wish I could find some way of disposing of Celotex offcuts, it breaks my heart to see a skip filled up with insulation.
I'm exactly the same Nick. My skips are loaded with precision its the way you have to be. I've seen baths in skips facing downwards so then theres a big void.
It might take up a small bit of time but its worth doing correctly.
I SO agree with you Nick. Only HEAVT stuff and rammed into every last part of the skip. Cardboard and plastic can be recycled, clean rubble and soil sold or given away.
Amazing how much useful stuff builders throw in the skip, wood especially, insulation board cutoffs. Any bits of metal, pipes, old taps etc leave out for the scrappie. Not worth weighing in yourself but the scrappie's vanload is and better to recycle than bury. I have to say I can't pass a skip without looking in!
When my son's had rewiring, the electrician left all his rubbish under the floors. I cleaned it up when I did work there and actually found some useful stuff, even the odd brand new fitting!
Hi guys all great stuff.just listening to your podcast on rubbish clearance, we are builders and designers and talking about fly tipping, I think the way to help reduce fly tipping is to lower the cost of rubbish clearance if not you will never stop fly tipping and let anyone in with any waste. Good luck lads keep up the great work.kind regards Wow interiors Bedford.
Over here in Brisbane, the Council installs Covert Cameras in the Fly Tipping Hot Spots & it seems to work as these people get prosecuted quite often.
Hello Guys, I now live in Australia, originally from Kent. Yesterday was Good Friday, it was pouring down, so I thought I would look on UA-cam as there was nothing on the TV. I came across some of your videos, 6 hours later I thought I d better have some dinner. After dinner I watched some more. Totally enjoyed seeing both of you, I'm a Chippie, keep the Vids coming. All the best.
Thanks for this video I'm a bathroom and kitchen fitter only been doing it 5 years but never heard of the waste license which really affects us as when a costume can't get a skip on there drive I offer to put it on mine to save them paying to have it on the road which means we're transporting there waste on a weekly basis. Thanks for the heads up 👍🏻
Love these mother's mettings 🙂👍🏼
I've just hired a skip to clear waste from a minor bathroom refurb and general de-cluttering of the house - filled it up most of the way as soon as it arrived expecting neighbours to start dumping their crap in there as well. Lo and behold, the next morning it had LESS stuff in it than when I left it in the evening. Upon inspection anything metal had been removed, clearly someone foraging for scrap. Fine by me; they get £2.50 for the scrap and I get 15% of my skip's volume back again, win win!
I live in Denmark... We have to have a skip for each type of building rubbish, wood, masonry, soil etc... If you mix it they charge you for manually sorting it. I had an experience where I had to pay £1800 for someone who put some other rubbish in a skip that was for masonry. As for pallets... We pay £12 per pallet and then get £6 for each pallet we return to the building suppliers. We also have waste disposal centers which are free for the general public and trades people pay a yearly fee of £120 to dispose of rubbish.
That seem completely sensible. I have lived in Denmark back in the day and it is way more civilised in all respects.
Brilliant insight guys. Look forward to more podcasts. Thank you.
An issue for local authorities, is some builders washing down cement and sand etc. into road gullies and causing blockages. This costs them and therefore council taxpayers, 100's of thousands a year to clear from drains. Often, the road has to be excavated to clear the cement that has hardened. It's as 'out of site, out of mind' attitude.
Some, show me one that doesn’t … (plasterers included)
Working on sites for years I noticed how much materials that go to waste that others may benefit from,
Part of me wonders how easy it would be to create a company that collects these materials from sites, stores them for the public to buy for theirown projects,
I know of people with waste carrying license that still fly tip, people in the rubbish collection industry should be given paperwork from the builder that needs to be signed for at the refuse collection center.
Also like normal public recycling perhaps sites can have seperate bins for different rubbish to save getting it mixed
There was a company in Romford that used to buy up the ends of ranges of bathroom suites so, most of the time they could match an obsolete colour. Even charging a premium that was a lot of good storage space being taken up by low value items and they couldn't justify the opportunity costs of tying up all that land.
Well you say "used to be" so I assume they are gone now,
I meant mainly timbers, bricks, hardcore, insulation etc.
Give robin a nudge tell him I'm still waiting to have a word about this clothing 😉
05:10 Knowing this.. I would like to ask if the mold or water contact and alot of time in humid condition .. Plaster board will be as toxic as not to have it in your house? How is that legal?
Great opinion 👌
Soil and hardcore are £20 a transit size tipper load at my local waste transfer site , woods about £30-£40 greens about £10 a ton bag or £40 a full load . Hardly ever use skips for landscaping now even with billing for my time and fuel still works out cheaper than skip and avoids annoying neighbours and sneakynight time fillers
I had a long email chat with Croydon council trying to reason with them that it must be better making a nominal charge to accept rubbish from small to medium size builders than pay thousands cleaning up. Not Interested Crazy!! John
Down here, in Dorset , we have had a lot of travellers set up in various places and you often see a flat bed truck at the site with the caravans and when they do finally go there are piles of rubble and crap because they have been driving round looking for people to charge for "disposal" .
a funny thing about them is that their caravans are spotless. They understand the concept of being tidy but not where to apply it.
When I was a new age traveller we'd tidy up the rubbish we found on new sites, we got evicted less quickly !
What’s the name of the recycled plastic box that you mentioned but didn’t name?
I go to farm in tarbock area of Merseyside were charged £20 per waste like of green waste where chipper green waste, seive soil and crush the build waste. Which sell the those materials. Build merchants and garden centres.
Got into trouble for fly tipping a few years back. Paid a guy to take it away, next thing I no I am being hauled in front of the council to explain myself. Lesson learned, didn't no anything about waste carrier licenses.
These guys are awesome , keep up these videos
A builder working in London near where i live .Because they come from Doncaster,when they have anough timeber from a loft convertion, they take it back to Doncaster to a timber recycling firm.
I'm in Dundee, really lucky we have 3 or 4 places where you can take any kind of stuff to "recycling" with local council all free .. well handy
John players specials you used to get them in a black plastic oblong sort of tub aswell, remember used to use it to store my colouring in pens when I was younger. I hate the rubbish tipping aswell especially when you see a kid walking along with there parents & just throw it on the pavement and the pare t doesn't even say anything drives me bonkers. Podcasts are great lads all the best 👏👏👏👍
“We “forgot” to regulate the really big polluters like industry, agriculture and shipping, and “forgot” to collect taxes from all those corporations, banks and shareholders, so now all the money went offshore instead of back into the economy. Surely you must understand that fleecing working people under the guise of environmental regulation is the only recourse we have left to fill the coffers, because our labour costs just keep going up (...).”
Hi, I live in the north of England, and we have a tip that will take all rubbish including tires, asbestos, building waste and every other thing you can think of at no cost to the public we even get a skip provided once a month for people who cannot get to the tip. But we still get prats dumping rubbish where it shouldn't be, the latest was about 200 yards (0.18 km) from the tip. I think it is about time we shot fly tippers, you would not need to kill very many before the others got the message.
crush their vans
The downside of putting plasterboard waste inside stud walls is weight - need to ensure that the floor supporting the stud wall doesn't get further overloaded - which is easily forgotten if a whole load of unplanned extra dead load goes in.
No problems in Derbyshire boys. You can go into the local council recycling depot & get rid of all your building waste. The only thing they are strict about is rubble, which is weird as that’s the one thing they can sell!
Great channel. Also like jay puyenbroeck building in Belgium. Different to see how they have to deal with footings below the water table.
I'm glad I watched your podcast as I've ordered an 8 yrd skip for next week and was going to put some plasterboard in it it along with a load of household waste. Didn't even consider asking the supplier about restrictions as I told him that it would be mixed waste with rubble, gravel top soil and other household rubbish. I'm up in the North East and I've got an 8yrd skip for £190 which seems to be the going rate here.
If he didn't tell you about plasterboard just put it at the bottom. The waste transfer station will sort it.
One of the biggest problems in domestic construction along with tool theft, wouldn’t be bad to do a podcast on that either!
Anyone know of any recycling scheme to get rid of polystyrene packaging in a better way? There is so much of this in the kitchen and bathroom fitting business. All the appliances,etc covered in it. Half the skip ends up full of waste polystyrene.
Bo peep
Bit of fuel and it shrinks a lot. Just don't light it
Passenger footwell often looks like a skip as I refuse to litter. So every 2-3 days I end up with empty water bottles serviettes sand which packets etc as us self employed are always eating between jobs etc
Good on you
Here in Japan many things end up dumped over the side of a steep hill on a country road. Not just professionals but the regulations are hard on the average person as well. All trash must be put out in specially labeled trash bags according to type that you need to buy. Certain items must be dropped off at special locations, certain larger items you must pay someone to come and haul it away, other types of items you must go to the city office and purchase seals to affix to the items and have a scheduled pick up. Many people just sneak out in the night (in the middle of the city here) and just dump stuff on the curb to become the problem of someone else. When I see things in the trash that don't have seals I can take it, take it apart, keep parts I can use and throw away the other bits properly. When I have had large items that need to be tossed I go at it with a hammer, saw, whatever it takes to break it down into bits that will fit in the city bags so I can throw it away proper without having to pay for the disposal seals. I have even taken a tele to bits to separate the components to put out in the city bags because those can be quite a cost to throw away. I'm currently taking apart a sofa, using the padding to fix the worn out padding in my bed and will be using the wooden framing bits for other projects. Here is a 4 page PDF outlining how the average citizen must dispose of things in my city, it makes my head spin! www.city.nagoya.jp/en/cmsfiles/contents/0000022/22536/English.pdf
Had my old kitchen in my van, worktops etc. So, went to the tip, permit in the van. Guy goes, "oh is that your kitchen or someone elses"? I didn't bite. I said, "I've got a permit", "doesn't matter he says". I said, "yes I'm it's mine", which it was, it was a van, but I just drive a van. No big deal. "You a tradesman" he said, "no", I said, "oh your vans commercial". I said "yeah", you guys accepted my request for a permit". "Oh ok let you on this time but next time wel turn you away"? What the fuck man you get treated like a fuckin criminal for trying to do the right thing now days. people don't have time for that or ask for abuse am rudeness, specially when you have gone through all the hassle of getting a permit, using it, doing the right thing in the first place, because even when you do now your still wrong somehow. Don't get me started on trailers. The long an short is the vehicles are given to much focus, my Mrs doesn't ask me to use a certain method or tell me to use roller skates to put the bins out. Your at the right place, to put the the right material in the right container, on a fucking Sunday, trying to do the right thing, for people who don't two hoots about us (the local authority/council) taken time out of your limited free time because of having to work, an they wanna know where it's come from an tell you there not happy with your vehicle?? The fuck is wrong with the council. Even when you do it right your wrong. They might as well be an extension of the Police. control driven fucktards
Our local tip, sorry recycling centre, has a fly-tipping issue in the lane right outside. It's in the sticks and there's always buckets, sheets of ply and old bags of cement thrown in the bushes.
Common problem, tip closed throw it in hedge save coming back.
I have just started a job in Harrogate, the skip was £250 the licence is £120 a week on top,
Hi Rubi
How long are you likely to be up there? I am coming up straight after Easter and it would be great if we could come and see you on the site..
@@SkillBuilder We are there for the next 10 weeks, you can find my contacts on my website backtobasement.com
Loving the videos!
Pay the guy £100 to get rid of it then, once it’s gone, report it stolen. Arse covered, Job done!
Talking about recycling have you ever taken things from a skip that could be reused?
I loaded a 8 yard skip with clay and hardcore, to made more space I put the hose on it to wet it down for a couple of hours to make it slump. The skip lorry pulled one of the lugs off the side skip !! 🇬🇧
next time just get the wacker plate in there, saves on the water bill then :)
I had a skip of chalk rubble and concrete so well packed and wetted and layered and trodden down that there was no air left in it. Slight tump but it conformed to the level load only. I wasn’t there when it was picked up and the skip driver was calling me all the cunts under the sun ,but the big hole punched in next doors drive from the support wheel was
I know a builder that uses a whacker plate on his skips - soil compacts by about 50%
I lived in Germany for a few years in Herford, spotless part of the country!
I love the latest UA-cam app - it overwrites subtitles on the thumbnail video. This one says Hello, it's Rajat Bisby here! Old Roger's got a tan like but come on!?
There is always a bit of comedy in those subtitles
Doing forget "we're robbing clever"
Thanks . Useful info
Good grief, you say a skip costs £300 now, the last time I hired a skip it was £160. But when I first started in the building WAY back in the late 60's a 6yds skip was £10.00. Those were the days.
Is that the same teacher neighbor who used to milk her stress days in the sun with a bottle of wine and all of it? LOL
I was out on my bike the other day , going down a country lane in Berkshire . It was so disheartening to see litter every 5 meters or so .
I agree completely and it seems to be a very British thing, although Italy is a bit of a tip in places
Good to see you get furious about the casual littering. The road verges coming up to round a bouts in West London where I live are filled with litter and makes my blood boil. Plastic waste everywhere. :-((
our building blocks come on pallets, they charge 9 euro extra and give a full refund on the return of the pallets. its great.
Why wouldn't that be the standard way of doing it? Its crazy.
It really needs a cash incentive, not a charge to bring in rubbish and absolutely punitive costs to those who are caught fly tipping. Not just a slap on the wrist. Lorry gone, house gone! Whatever it takes!
Friends found a bike under the floorboards when dealing with dry rot, the whole void was filled with crap.
Was it a good bike? If it was a carbon framed 22 speed racing bike I would forgive them hiding it there.
@@SkillBuilder I don't think so, I think it had been there for quite some time. Just that thing of people chucking rubbish under the floorboards taken to an extreme. I don't think it was as funny for them as the amount of junk under there was causing the rot. as it stopped the airflow.
Treat each trade and the skip man as equal, I've always done that, if nobody wants to work with you then you are screwed on larger project's
I've dug up worse stuff than plasterboard from my garden that someone from years ago buried, thinking that was the end of it!Why don't people put a sign by a skip offering stuff for free before it's skipped?I picked up 2 decent double glazed wooden windows that I used when I built my workshop!Happy days!🙂👍
You can't put plasterboard in a skip with other waste as it produces the toxic gas, hydrogen sulphate if it mixes with organic waste. You can however hire board only skips, or grab bags to keep it seperate.
On the subject of fly tipping the title reminds me of a friend who went fly fishing. Last time he went he caught a 2lb blue bottle!
Hydrogen sulphate is not a gas at room temperature, do you mean hydrogen sulphide?
I was working on a renovation in 2018, and a dentist dumped his rubbish in one of our skips, so my boss at the time said to me, take it out and leave it beside the skip, so the council came a few days later, and we said the dentist dumped it in the skip and he had no authority to do so, and the dentist got the fine
Very interesting. You have me worried now. I have a skip outside my house and I have put my old plasterboard ceilings on it. 😳😰
I normally take stuff out of skips - I got a working toilet cistern last week - does this make me a good guy?
No, it makes you a thief unless you asked permission … 🤔
@@andyxox4168 yes, I asked permission.
Local traders in these parts (Cornwall) tend to do jobs on the proviso the customer gets rid of the waste which is fair enough as I can take an old loo to the tip for free whereas it costs them to do it in a van and they'd have to pass the cost to me anyway. As for the ubiquitous McDonald's waste, until recently we were 25miles from the nearest one but still found bags and cups in the country lanes ...some lazy sod does a 50mile round trip just to dump their crap on the verge. .....and breathe .....
The local skip company I use the price varies by as much as £30.00 depending on who in the yard you speak to. Incidentally my dad was a graphic designer and he used to work for players down in Nottingham the gold JPS logo that went on the cigarette packets and the formula 1 cars was his design.
Hi guys. I can relate to this vid on the rubbish. We come across this problem week in week out. Have you guys done any vids on plunge saws.looking for advice on a new plunge saw. I'm a dewalt man but I'm not sure what the best plunge saw to go for.
We have 11 videos on plunge saws. Fill your boots
What if you park the skip lorry with the skip on board on the street then have everything ready to go if possible. Then there’s no need for a licence and no daily fee. Might be a bit hard to load though up that high. 😋
in America.... Skip: Dumpster (30,60 90 yard)... tipping: dumping .... all illegal of course here in the States
It's definitely illegal here too, but that doesn't stop it happening rampantly...
Saying about cans thrown out the car on the roadside, I've a theory.....young lad driving around with his mates, have a drink in the car-gets home puts the empty cans of beer/red bull whatever(nitro canisters) in the recycling bin...... Mum or dad has a right old go at son for all the beer he's been drinking.
Next day he's out - guess where he's getting rid of his cans?
Another good podcast
Classic double act, brilliant.
Local authorities have a terribly discriminatory attitude toward "trade waste", charging more and more, while "household waste" is disposed of free. Surely waste is waste and every producer ought to pay their way. After all, what article of waste hasn't originated in a trade of some kind.
Households do pay to dispose of their waste.
@@dorianleakey I guess it depends on your local authority. There is no charge for household waist disposal where I live, over and above the council tax. You can turn up with a Range Rover and the biggest trailer it will tow, no one bats an eye. Appear in a wee van and you are hooked up to a polygraph and thumb screws, before being charged a flat rate, regardless of quantity presented. I do not see the logic in this discrimination.
Ask for a lockable skip
They are mad for licences here. Licences are licences to commit a crime plus the fees that go with it.
All our plastic is sent over seas. We can get the bulk bags at the hardware stores and they come and pick up with a crane truck. Cheers lads
Seems a skip cost the same in london as it does in the the north east of the country, so effectively they are a lot better value for money down there.
Regardless of the cost of waste disposal , fly tipping is anti social ( in the extreme) and has its roots in pure greed .
Or laziness …
Government regulation causes something to be very expensive and hard to find! Wow that's never happened before. Who's getting rich due to the regulation? That's who is influencing the government.
Has a past flat roofer we used to find old news papers in-between the ceiling and the roof boards this used to give us an idea when it was last reroofed they were a good reading some going back to the early 70S On one job we were doing a full strip and re deck on a office block and found some naughty photos above suspended ceiling in a toilet and we left a little note with them just to say who ever these photographs belong to we know what you are up to haha I bet that took the smile of his face
I’m currently preparing the groundwork for a new 10x8 shed workshop in my back garden. There was a fair amount of rockery stone and soil to remove, plus a Holly tree. So, I hired a 6yd General Waste skip. I was a little disappointed to see on the delivery ticket that ‘No Tree Stumps or Roots over 5cm’ was allowed. 5cm seems a bit stingy...especially when I can take items like this to my local tip and dump it in the green waste bay for free. I despise anyone who fly tips and the penalties should be severe; at least confiscation and crushing of the vehicle used.
My local tip charges £3 a bag for soil or rubble and £3 an item, say for a sink or toilet bowl. That said, in Bristol where my daughter lives, most waste disposal at the tip is free but you are restricted to making only one visit per week. Hence Bristol has a particularly bad reputation for building and furniture rubbish lying about the streets. More needs to be done on this issue and councils should work together and harder to find a solution.
I live in Bristol and have been able to go more than once a week with no issues.
I pay out for upper tier licence and then extras to tip plus diesel time. Customers then moan at me for doing it right.
never knew that about plaster board
you should see the outskirts of Paris, rubbish everywhere
Also worth mentioning that contrary to popular belief, there's no UK law against burning rubbish on your own private land.
Not quite true. While not being a statute law, there can be a local council by law banning it as there is in smokeless zones. The actual law states the burning must take place on open land, not produce excessive smoke and must take place where the waste was produced.
So you cant bring waste from a job and burn it in your garden.
The acid test is start the bonfire. If a neighbour complains youll see the fire service arrive and put it out and you wont be able to stop them.
I watch a channel "The Handyman", he's in the US and in one video he goes to the tip, everything thrown on one big pile, no sorting stuff and he paid according to the weight.
iam a75your old joiner since iwas 15about bad cliants ive been knocked several times heers 1 teltale other tradsmen have left tools and equepment on site witch the cliant would never buy eg a top qual dewalt drill with no charger
Is that a Celtic tatt I see on the arm Robin?
extortion is the name of the game in London,
What the bloody hell is in plasterboard. I was told if you soak it right down it can go in the skip. Probably not true. I only use hot lime now. Restoration and conservation work.
Its a panel made of calcium sulfate dehydrate, with or without additives. The plaster is mixed with fiber, usually paper or fibreglass or a combination of both and plastizer, foaming agent, and various additives that can reduce mildew, flammability and water absorption.
When mixed with degradable waste it can produce the toxic gas, hydrogen sulphide.
When recycled it can be reused to make plasterboard again.
Gypsum!
We never use Greedy Boards, only LIBERTY Boards in skips.
I'd thought plasterboard was separated because it might contain asbestos, and for recycling to make more plasterboard, but no, it makes Hydrogen Sulphide if mixed with organic waste, which in large quantities could poison you or burn - but small quantities in my garden are OK i think. It smells of rotten eggs because that's what the gas in rotten eggs (and farts and added to mains gas) is. A bit of googling told me this. thanks Roger.
But if there’s enough that you can’t smell it you’re already dead …
The subtitles also include the phrase “rubbish tit illegally”. Brilliant.
You would be amazed at the household waste I rot down on my allotment for compost I have six bins you can never fill the worms do all the work 24 7 365
It can be difficult. Particularly if you're working away from home where you don't know folks. Customers are always shocked learning how much clear up costs too. I let them know before we start of course.
Roger, I see you're doing a talk at Exeter tool fair this month. If I see you, be warned, I'm gonna come say hello! ;)
Simple put it in your quote that the customer is responsible for all waste associated fees.
Exactly what i do. I make it very, very clear in my estimates that i will not take any waste at all, nothing, away from the build.
All recent governments would rather levy a new charge or tax than actually fix the problem.