A girl who is into you will make it incredibly easy for things to move ahead. A girl who is not will put up boundaries and make excuses. It's really that simple.
@@Twisted86 what feelings dude he just meet her and he's already acting like a simp. Come on man an alpha male can have women friends . moat of the men that need help are to into there feelings.
Friendzone is a place where you are invited and voluntarily step in. Therefore, the only person who can rescue from the friendzone is yourself. Once you recognize the trap (maybe after falling more than once) you get the skills to avoid enter there.
I recently had a chick try that “My romantic relationships started as friendships first” BS. I walked away immediately...especially because we met from a dating app. 🤦🏾♂️ Know your worth kings! ✊🏾
@@Derwooakasoundboystube Nah. What sounds stupid is playing stupid dating games with a woman who “friend zones” everyone in the beginning with the hopes of being “chosen”. I never said anything about being ready to fall in love after one date. My comment was more so about valuing my time. I know what I want being “friends first” ain’t it, so you can miss me with that BS....dude. ✌🏾
@@progers86 so your saying your not suppose to ne friends first. Clearly this guy had to been forcing a relationship on her. If you just be cool and be friends with a woman she will eventually tell you she wants a relationship. The point is most these men that need help from this coach clearly have there own issues . which is falling to quick for a woman (PERIOD)
@@Derwooakasoundboystube nah. What I’m saying is he should have walked away a long time ago. What they wanted didn’t mesh on a fundamental level. Also, her interest wasn’t high enough, so she put him on ice to see if he could raise her interest high enough or until he just faded into the void. I’ve dated enough to know what high interest looks and feels like and also what low interest feels like. I personally don’t entertain low interest women period. I’m also saying that men in general shouldn’t entertain low interest women. It’s ultimately a waste of time.
@@progers86 well I love a challenge and i got time. Woman who don't have high interest is usually because there not into the man at all. But with his case she wanted to be friends first that should have been respected.. When you have plenty options you don't sweat being a friend.
The most common thing they will try to get from you while in friend zone is attention and validation. It’s easy to pull out of you without getting called out because it’s immaterial. Attention is a currency.
To quote Jordan Peterson.... "It's mother nature in the guise of that woman saying.... Your good for a friend but there is no reason your genetic material should pass into the future".... Yeah any self respecting person should walk away.
Good enough to keep you around for your uses but too shitty to keep making more of... thats all the treatment I get. At least I've learned to walk away.
I got friendzoned because I was too much of a yes man. I now know sometimes it’s better to walk and let her chase. My time is valuable and I want go be with someone who values it.
After a 3 year relationship she tried to FZ me, i walked away and never looked back. Now 45 days later getting Hoovered with random txts. I responded with Who Is this? That had to sting!
@@travis6694 absolutely if she hurt you that bad then i go with what you said but if it was sumn that just ran its course id consider hanging out having fun and hooking up. She giving you validation not the other way around.
She's trying to keep her options open so she'll put you in her gaggle of male orbiters for emotional and financial stability. Time to cut bait and move on.
Spot on, this girl told me she has lots of guy friends on the first date to see if it bothered me, responded with a cheeky "that's ok I have lots of girlfriends". Made a note of it but largely ignored it, coming back to bite me.
This guy think he knows it all. Any one knows you have to be friends first. This guy aa you all call coach Lmao. He makes it like it's all about having fun and sex. What about being friends for a while. Moat men that look to this coach for advise have no clue. To me most of these men fall in love so freaking quick, ready to be in a relationship after she tells you her name. This coach gets paid off of your views and foe buying his mugs. Real men are not desperate for a woman.
Yes men fall in love too easily. But you don’t become friends because you secretly hope that one day she will like you too and want a relationship! That’s a waste of time.
@@Derwooakasoundboystube you are right , I have seen it before. But it's the exception to the rule. Most will use friendship to dangle the carrot and manipulate the man. They know what they're doing. You're going to know very quickly if she genuinely desires you for sex. Otherwise you're being played.
@@StonecutterSC nothing wrong with the lets hook up . men just have to not involve feelings so fast. Most of the videos I watch from this coach ( I notice the men fall so quick, if you build a friendship and focus on your mission and purpose as the coach says woman will be all on you. And the woman who are not, will fall off on there own. You won't have to over pursue them lol
Any man who agrees to be in the friend zone with a woman deserves all the repercussions that follow. Weak and needy men effectively surrender their time and attention to a woman without receiving anything in return. It's a lose/lose situation. You are held back and drained mentally and emotionally by a woman and stops you moving on to achieve better things. If you guys need any help, just ask.
I have one really great friend in our friend group that I grew interested in after like 3 years. She seemed really scared to progress because she was afraid to lose the friendship if we broke up. We spent one night cuddling and kissing and then we didn’t see each other for 2 weeks and all of a sudden she grew more distant and told me that she was sorry but probably only did it for attention. Like wtf, you don’t sleep together and kiss with a guy you find unattractive. She said all this when we talked yesterday and I didn’t know how to respond. I just told her sure if you don’t feel any attraction this is a bad idea. I can’t just distance myself from somebody I have been great friends with for years. Idk what to do.
There’s a whole other level to Simp, which is a man who begs and pleads to be in the friend zone, when you tell him that you aren’t interested and don’t think you should communicate anymore… this kind of guy will literally not take no for an answer, and will beg to be your friend and beg to spend every more minute he can with you and will cry and throw a fit once you ask him what time he wants to go home.
I was with a woman for about 2 years; we were long-distance (international). Things seemed to start going sideways when I decided to get into counseling to deal with some past trauma, which opened up a huge can of emotions for me. I told her what was happening and that I was struggling; as a result she became distant over a few months. Toward the end of the relationship she said "Instead of Skyping every day, let's just do it once or maybe twice a week." (She always initiated Skype calls.) Anyway, I told her I wasn't going to accept that; she gave me an ultimatum (her way or goodbye) and I walked. She offered friend zone as a last resort "because I love you and I want to keep you in my life"; I kept walking.
@@jannieschluter9670 @Jannie Schlüter That's when I noticed things were different. She has her own issues and refused to get help for them, so maybe she was cranky that I was trying to be better while she's stuck in her own crap? I'll never know.
@@davidp2888 , To her, your need for counseling was a sign of weakness. The Skype calls were her daily source of free validation and attention. That's why women offer the friend zone. Any unearned attention should be sparse.
The friend zone is the space that low-value men accept and willingly reside in. When you set your standards and don't compromise them you elevate your status. Even though several women will ignore that and try to compromise you, high-value women will recognize it and be very turned on by you. When women talk about guys as being sexy and having a certain quality that they find attractive but just can't identify what it is, it almost always is the way a man doesn't compromise his beliefs and values.
Don't end up in the "friendzone" in the first place, have enough self respect to walk away from the rejection and find another person that loves you! Staying "friends" with them will be emotional torture once they start talking about future girls/guys they're interested in! Remaining in the friendzone will lead you to a life of bitterness and anger being spineless enough to allow it. I know because I was foolish enough to do it all through my late teens and 20s and am still recovering! :/ Save yourself the heartache and walk away, it will hurt way less!
Most women tend to friend zone nice guys. And use them to fulfill their emotional needs. To not feel so lonely being single, until they get with the person who they actually want to be with. And then it turns out that the person who they actually want to be with is no good. There's no problem being friends before getting in a relationship with someone. But it's important to be clear with your intentions and not use the person. The same goes for men not just for women. Men who are only interested in a one night stand, and then lose interest.
Same similar situation as me. I flew a girl from the East Coast to here in Cali and let her lived in my home for 3 days. I know too very fast. We had the same chill vibe and enjoyed each other. But the moment that I was displaying weak behaviors, she started subtly disrespecting me and I was just letting it happen, she took advantage of me and became very aggressive/abusive. I thank God that I was just seeing these things happen on an observable point of view and I wasn't fully attached to her. She then madly packed up and left. But the fact that I was allowing this to happen to me, I just can't tolerate it anymore. Time to fully commit in being a 3% Man!
I love your work. when i was younger I delt with lots of girls that were flakey and uninterested. Your advice is really valid and from your advice of.letting the girl come to you works no problem. Only deal with woman who have high interest and treat it like a game of tennis, if she ai'nt biting than cut contact until she shows that she wants you.
On the "all my relationships started off as friendships first" comment, I would've come back with "Oh right, yet you're single right now and not married..."
Just went through this. Went on two dates with this girl recently and she seemed excited and even came back to my place after the second date and still wouldn’t let me kiss her. Had a bad relationship with her dad and just set all these rules on herself for no reason like friends only first. I stopped contacting her. NEXT
@@NemesisX94 absolutely right absolutely right, I was dating a girl for two months two months,!!! we had a trip planned for three days she agreed got the room reserved, a week later she got distant and Flaky , I left her place Friday night Saturday morning she text me I think we should get to know each other better before we do a trip like that WTF,.... her EX came back in the picture, then she tried to friendzone me, I said no friends no platonic romance only never heard from her again😘
If a woman truly wants you she'll break all the rules in the book. She will only use rules for friends and orbiters. But for a guy she fucks she'll literally do anything no matter how embarrassing and self depreciating it is to her.
I dealt with a girl who I thought I was seeing but we had an argument over text and I told her I’m not interested in a platonic relationship and she was like “so basically you can’t be friends with someone before a relationship. I don’t think that’s healthy.” I told her to give me a call if she changes her mind and she pretty much said “so what the fuck is wrong with being friends first and texting? I don’t see the differences between friendship and a relationship”. After that I walked away and meant it.
Have self respect. Get out of there. Look for other women, other goals, other hobbies, etc. Don't waste money and time on someone who doesn't want the same things you want. Never compromise
Cory you're absolutely right, I read the book seven times, this girl I was dating had low-interest about a five, I think an ex was in the picture, + abused by her ex-husband for 17 years and father, so it was damaged goods anyway ..(she said I think we should remain as friends don't expect anything more) that means no punany, I never said anything cuz I was not that interested, just like you said tries to get meals out of you waste your time calls once a month hey that's get together.. just the cheek or a hug ...so I don't even contact her she still reaches out this is been going on for over 2 years I don't even bother her, I should have told her no platonic no friendship ...but I see just where this goes ,, the friend Zone It's The End Zone guaranteed 100% don't ever accept a friend friendship from a woman you will get nowhere why they explore their other options😘
Personally hes wasted to much time on the girl whos not interested. You need a girl who you can click with when you date a girl you want it to be effortless
This was enlightening, thank you so much. I’m a software engineer and relationships is not really my thing. So really wanted to thank you. I’ll be looking for another girl.
Went on a date with this chick that was 2 year sold than me, had a great time but she said "Im taking a break from dating for myself so lets be friends" then I just said "Ok" but only to see her lie about it on her tinder bio. So I just ghosted her and See her at the gym everyday and don't even knowledge that she exits.
When a woman starts testing the hell out of you, it only means one thing: she's NOT into you, period. You better off dropping her cold right there and then, saying perhaps something like: Hey, you know, I'm not having fun with you, good bye! That'll show her some manly posture and frame. She may start chasing you instead, if not, so be it. Next!
Be it known. The nuances of dating varies greatly. I once had a woman fall in love with me, strictly based on my inviting her out on an impromptu breakfast date. She specifically told me, it was one of the nicest things she had done in quite some time. After the date, she expressed to me, that my invitation to take her out, had caused her to want to be with me. I also took a different woman to a restaurant for lunch, and from then on, I couldn’t get rid of her. LOL! So it all just depends on the woman, and timing. Not always a science.
There is this woman that I have been asking out for two weeks and she always says yes and ends up flaking. When she is with me, she acts interested, but going on dates is always a flake. Today I decided to leave her and let her go live. No pettiness, I'll just never pursue her again.
The EXACT same thing is happening to me, we hung out once but she agrees to get together then flakes or says she's too busy with homework, I'm done with her, I wanna hangout with a girl who is enthusiastic to see me
Invite her to your place. If shes a yes, good. If shes a No, tell her to call you when she changes her mind. In the meantime, move on to the next woman.
Just block her and move on. No need for all this back and forth. U told her u don't want to be friends once. No need to do it again. Show her by leaving and not looking back.
Im a guy..I've always been pretty successful at not really trying at all. They are so used to simps that when they meet a legit dude, its intriguing and throws them off.
After getting back together for the second time, this time 8 months, the first time 6 months with the breakup in between lasting 3 months, she dumped me again two weeks ago over the phone. She asked if we could be friends while crying and stuff. I said I find that disrespectful. In the last two weeks since the break up, she’s reached out three times already. Sharing something about her day, and then two texts asking how I’m doing. I’ve not responded to any of them. Now I’m thinking to either stay NC or send this: « I don’t think it’s appropriate for us to be talking after your decision. After what we had, I can’t talk to/see you non-romantically. Pretending otherwise would be insincere. Good luck in finding what makes you happy. » Thoughts?
Don't join in and play their games. If she really wants to do that, take your ball and go and play somewhere else. I for one, are too old for that shit. If you have to manipulate attraction and constantly construct scenarios to try and get the prize, it is already too unnatural. God, I wish I was gay.
It also seems to me that she was already in a relationship or perhaps in love with someone she wasn't sure felt the same way and was looking to keep this guy as a back up
The worst is when you meet a girl from a dating app that says "no hookups", but you hook up anyway on the first meeting, and then they say let's just be friends. Totally confusing. This girl treats men like shit and then wonders why all men leave her. Go figure.
Bayareablackman here ❗ going in letting her know you're busy even if not show indirect interest in other women while with here ya her that F-ZONE BS thank her in your mind and drop her name to the bottom if you do see her again purposely call her another chicks name at least once IF SHE'S STILL AROUND MAKE ONE LAST ATTEMPT TO HIT IT OTHER THAN THAT " POP SMOKE N GHOST"
Let's be straight a lot of guys put themselves into that zone too by valuing platonic time more than physical time. Feeling guilty and wrong about themselves seeing someone as a sex object. Society also brainwashed this into you as a guy to be ashamed about your male gaze and to ignore your deeper impulses at every turn. I think a lot of guys if they were just honest to themselves about what they wanted they wouldn't be friendzoning themselves so easily.
It seems to me that he must have done something needy earlier that she felt strong enough to give friend zone vibe. If he would have kept her wondering about him etc. she would never think about that in my opinion😉
Just had a girl try doing this to me yesterday after taking a hour drive up to her house. I simply declined walk out her front door blocked her number and deleted it
I always shoot em down for that didn't happen much but I'm glad you said that It always made no sense to me for a woman to be my friend. Why? Guys are into guy things as simple as that. I don't want a hang out buddy for a woman I do that with my boys. Woman are for well romancing. Another thing in this is just my opinion there is far too much B's dealing with the modern woman. Alot of hang ups alot of them think about it sometimes in the wrong way then instead of confrontation to you they just dismiss you and never say why. Unless you ask them and even then it might not be an honest answer. I just came out of a 12 year relationship with kids ECT... I'm back dating now again unexpected but it seems like slot of the potential woman I come across have alot of expectations alot of them it's a joke really. If your a 250 pound 5'5 woman and you think your entitled to a fit guy that's just isn't realistic. Fee weeks back I was using a dating app got a message from a very overweight woman who said I'm perfect for her I'm fit I'm close I'm already a father. Now I never responded but the point being someone in her shoes should either A find someone else that would be into her. B lose the weight first than try to get what you want. It's insulting I don't want a fat chick and I was over weight at some point but I got off my ass and did something about it because there is alot of competition out there I want to be better than the rest.
Don't ever get into friend zone in the first place, tell them i don't want to be your friend. I just told this to a girl 2 days ago, i said it before she said anything about friends. I said it because she said i wont touch her butt when we dance, so i said i don't want to be your friend.
When i got friend zoned, i ignored her text for two days and she ended up visiting my apartment when i was out on a date and said that she missed me and who was i with. Like what
I have found when girls do all of this jacking around with plans it's just best to walk and never look back. Either their interest isn't high enough or they are too chaotic with plans for my taste.
The woman has *_EVERY_* opportunity to Decline his invitation to meet up. He's made himself clear - he wants "romance". She can say, "No thank you"... ... But instead, she wants the friendship - she wants the date. Just not the "Jiggy-Jig" at the end of the night!
Accepting a woman's view on ANYTHING means that you have completely submitted your frame to hers. Remember Tomassi's Iron Rule #1: FRAME IS EVERYTHING.
So almost 2 months ago my fiance left me for another guy behind my back with a few lies on her end and as soon as that happened I got the audio book per advice from my older brother and I've been listening to 3% man about once or twice a week so I've been through it about 6 times more or less and my issue is that i feel extremely anxious around people in general I'm the guy that needs to go to the mall and chop it up with girls i don't find attractive and it's been hard for me to try and apply what I'm learning because of this crippling fear, I even broke 2 dates I made with girls over a dating app and I just told myself I'm gonna give myself time to heal but deep down it was out of fear that I wasn't gonna show up my best or get straight out rejected.. I'm listening to the book alot everyday at work pretty much but without applying it I'm going nowhere!
Ive got a women I dated a while ago hitting me up, she is still with guy she left me for and wants to be friends still after all this time haha why doesn't she pick up what I'm laying down,I can walk away and mean it easily with her even tho I'm still attracted to her and she knows it,but i stand my ground but she doesn't take no for an answer, I have control maybe she hates that???........
I know guys don’t mean to put themselves in the friend zone you meet a girl and you start off as friends mutual. But then our manly instincts kick in and you want some booty and when she’s not going for it we get mad
honestly after the 2nd date i would of stopped responding it would of been to much for me if she trying hard to friendzone me constantly i would of told if you don't want to date me that's fine I will find someone else and say goodbye
Some women who do this do not know the true meaning of friendship. Her idea of "friendship' is taking men for granted. Women who do this are not worthy of your friendship let alone to date.
@panthornberry I didn't say anything about women owing any guy they rejected a date. Some women who reject guys are genuinely interested in friendship, some other women do offer friendship as diplomacy; the latter is what I'd be wary of and keep my distance. Nobody owes anyone anything, be a romantic relationship or a friendship.
@panthornberry of course it can't be helped if said women are not attracted to you, but on the same token, them asking you to be friends when you wanted something more is disrespectful. It's just better to decline politely, wish them well and walk away.
@panthornberry find people who celebrate you not tolerate you. That's what the "Friend Zone" is, not friendship. Genuine friendship is not about being manipulative, it is being there for one another; it just happens during the course of a friendship when some people catch feelings for a friend, then those feelings aren't returned for any reason, including not being attracted to said person. Even if the person in question accepts the rejection and the friendship, he knows to set boundaries and not let his/her friendship being taken for granted. No "simping."
Read the book. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again.
IF she broke up with you. Her adding you to Instagram means absolutely nothing. She needs to do 100% of the pressuring. After all you are a man of value. Allow her to contact you via DM or phone call. Give her the opportunity to chase you! Good luck brethren.👍🏼
My ex blocks me on her social media because I told her I’m not accepting being your gay male best friend while you date n sleep with other men sorry but not sorry 🤷🏿♂️
A girl who is into you will make it incredibly easy for things to move ahead. A girl who is not will put up boundaries and make excuses. It's really that simple.
I've done it both ways. I'd never tolerate a woman that says the F word.
yessir!!!!
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There is absolutely nothing wrong with boundaries. Everyone should have them.
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Friendzone : guy is into the girl more than she is into him
Friends with benefits: girl is into the guy, more than he is into her
@@Sumtrip799 be careful fam
@@Sumtrip799 lol we into results only !
what if you are in fwb and she tries to friendzone you we are playing push and pull
@@ben.y9074 fall back when she falls back. If your fwb you shouldn't be focused solely on her. Dont over pursue
@@Sumtrip799 aw i jus seen my comment i meant that for the other guy not you. My bad bro
The easiest way to get out of the friendzone is date other women and have fun... watch the jealousy begin!!
Just make your move. If she says no, just be on your way. Easy.
The way to get out of friendzone is to not care that your in the friend zone. You men be ready to fall on love with a woman over night ..
@@Twisted86 what feelings dude he just meet her and he's already acting like a simp. Come on man an alpha male can have women friends . moat of the men that need help are to into there feelings.
@@LookUpYourRedemptionDrawsNigh thank you
This is very true, or just break off from manipulative women.
Friendzone is a place where you are invited and voluntarily step in.
Therefore, the only person who can rescue from the friendzone is yourself.
Once you recognize the trap (maybe after falling more than once) you get the skills to avoid enter there.
Difficult women aren't typically worth the trouble. Find someone that's interested. There's nothing more fun than a woman that's into you.
I came across a lady that was interested but taken and is a mother
Motorcycles. Motorcycles are more fun.
I recently had a chick try that “My romantic relationships started as friendships first” BS. I walked away immediately...especially because we met from a dating app. 🤦🏾♂️
Know your worth kings! ✊🏾
This sounds so stupid dude. You men be ready to fall in love after one date . your suppose to be friends first
@@Derwooakasoundboystube Nah. What sounds stupid is playing stupid dating games with a woman who “friend zones” everyone in the beginning with the hopes of being “chosen”.
I never said anything about being ready to fall in love after one date. My comment was more so about valuing my time. I know what I want being “friends first” ain’t it, so you can miss me with that BS....dude. ✌🏾
@@progers86 so your saying your not suppose to ne friends first. Clearly this guy had to been forcing a relationship on her. If you just be cool and be friends with a woman she will eventually tell you she wants a relationship. The point is most these men that need help from this coach clearly have there own issues . which is falling to quick for a woman (PERIOD)
@@Derwooakasoundboystube nah. What I’m saying is he should have walked away a long time ago. What they wanted didn’t mesh on a fundamental level. Also, her interest wasn’t high enough, so she put him on ice to see if he could raise her interest high enough or until he just faded into the void. I’ve dated enough to know what high interest looks and feels like and also what low interest feels like. I personally don’t entertain low interest women period. I’m also saying that men in general shouldn’t entertain low interest women. It’s ultimately a waste of time.
@@progers86 well I love a challenge and i got time. Woman who don't have high interest is usually because there not into the man at all. But with his case she wanted to be friends first that should have been respected.. When you have plenty options you don't sweat being a friend.
The most common thing they will try to get from you while in friend zone is attention and validation. It’s easy to pull out of you without getting called out because it’s immaterial. Attention is a currency.
Exactly 💯
To quote Jordan Peterson.... "It's mother nature in the guise of that woman saying.... Your good for a friend but there is no reason your genetic material should pass into the future".... Yeah any self respecting person should walk away.
Love Jordan Peterson. So glad he's back!
Good enough to keep you around for your uses but too shitty to keep making more of... thats all the treatment I get. At least I've learned to walk away.
I got friendzoned because I was too much of a yes man. I now know sometimes it’s better to walk and let her chase. My time is valuable and I want go be with someone who values it.
The whole mindset here is 'will she like me', rather then 'let's see if I like her'.
After a 3 year relationship she tried to FZ me, i walked away and never looked back. Now 45 days later getting Hoovered with random txts. I responded with Who Is this? That had to sting!
Dont be salty... Hangout, have fun, and hook up
@@travis6694 that depends on how bad she hurt you 😂😂
@@travis6694 absolutely if she hurt you that bad then i go with what you said but if it was sumn that just ran its course id consider hanging out having fun and hooking up. She giving you validation not the other way around.
She's trying to keep her options open so she'll put you in her gaggle of male orbiters for emotional and financial stability. Time to cut bait and move on.
Spot on, this girl told me she has lots of guy friends on the first date to see if it bothered me, responded with a cheeky "that's ok I have lots of girlfriends". Made a note of it but largely ignored it, coming back to bite me.
This guy think he knows it all. Any one knows you have to be friends first. This guy aa you all call coach Lmao. He makes it like it's all about having fun and sex. What about being friends for a while. Moat men that look to this coach for advise have no clue. To me most of these men fall in love so freaking quick, ready to be in a relationship after she tells you her name. This coach gets paid off of your views and foe buying his mugs. Real men are not desperate for a woman.
Yes men fall in love too easily. But you don’t become friends because you secretly hope that one day she will like you too and want a relationship! That’s a waste of time.
@@Derwooakasoundboystube you are right , I have seen it before. But it's the exception to the rule. Most will use friendship to dangle the carrot and manipulate the man. They know what they're doing. You're going to know very quickly if she genuinely desires you for sex. Otherwise you're being played.
@@StonecutterSC nothing wrong with the lets hook up . men just have to not involve feelings so fast. Most of the videos I watch from this coach ( I notice the men fall so quick, if you build a friendship and focus on your mission and purpose as the coach says woman will be all on you. And the woman who are not, will fall off on there own. You won't have to over pursue them lol
Great video!! Being in the friend zone is the lowest level of disrespect!!!
Her low interest is only a glimpse of how a relationship could be with her potentially in the future. How things start, is generally how things end.
^THIS.
Yep, better to move along....
Eventually she would cheat on him anyway
Yesssirr too much work 😴
This girl did this guy a favor by showing him her true colors upfront: TRASH.
Any man who agrees to be in the friend zone with a woman deserves all the repercussions that follow. Weak and needy men effectively surrender their time and attention to a woman without receiving anything in return. It's a lose/lose situation. You are held back and drained mentally and emotionally by a woman and stops you moving on to achieve better things. If you guys need any help, just ask.
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I have one really great friend in our friend group that I grew interested in after like 3 years. She seemed really scared to progress because she was afraid to lose the friendship if we broke up. We spent one night cuddling and kissing and then we didn’t see each other for 2 weeks and all of a sudden she grew more distant and told me that she was sorry but probably only did it for attention. Like wtf, you don’t sleep together and kiss with a guy you find unattractive. She said all this when we talked yesterday and I didn’t know how to respond. I just told her sure if you don’t feel any attraction this is a bad idea. I can’t just distance myself from somebody I have been great friends with for years. Idk what to do.
All facts walk away save your money, energy, and self respect
There’s a whole other level to Simp, which is a man who begs and pleads to be in the friend zone, when you tell him that you aren’t interested and don’t think you should communicate anymore… this kind of guy will literally not take no for an answer, and will beg to be your friend and beg to spend every more minute he can with you and will cry and throw a fit once you ask him what time he wants to go home.
This was me for the last 15 years... it's like getting a strategy guide for a game that's been kicking your butt since the cartridge era.
Great way to describe it.
I was with a woman for about 2 years; we were long-distance (international). Things seemed to start going sideways when I decided to get into counseling to deal with some past trauma, which opened up a huge can of emotions for me. I told her what was happening and that I was struggling; as a result she became distant over a few months. Toward the end of the relationship she said "Instead of Skyping every day, let's just do it once or maybe twice a week." (She always initiated Skype calls.) Anyway, I told her I wasn't going to accept that; she gave me an ultimatum (her way or goodbye) and I walked. She offered friend zone as a last resort "because I love you and I want to keep you in my life"; I kept walking.
Strange woman. She lost interest in you after you told her that you were seeing a psychiatrist?!
Stay strong bro, a woman who does not supports you in hard times, do not deserves your time.
@@aronchas true!
@@jannieschluter9670 @Jannie Schlüter That's when I noticed things were different. She has her own issues and refused to get help for them, so maybe she was cranky that I was trying to be better while she's stuck in her own crap? I'll never know.
@@davidp2888 , To her, your need for counseling was a sign of weakness. The Skype calls were her daily source of free validation and attention. That's why women offer the friend zone. Any unearned attention should be sparse.
Bro Corey I noticed you’re using new terminology... “The Box” “she belongs to the streets” lmaooo. Good shit man, keep it up 😈
@Assman Butt Ams literally was inspired by corey
Other terminology he used around 11:40 "you fucked up there"... now that's the F word / bomb!
The friend zone is the space that low-value men accept and willingly reside in. When you set your standards and don't compromise them you elevate your status. Even though several women will ignore that and try to compromise you, high-value women will recognize it and be very turned on by you. When women talk about guys as being sexy and having a certain quality that they find attractive but just can't identify what it is, it almost always is the way a man doesn't compromise his beliefs and values.
I accepted the friend zone in the past, and it’s hurt me every time. Thanks to these videos and the wisdom here I’ll never make that mistake again.
Don't end up in the "friendzone" in the first place, have enough self respect to walk away from the rejection and find another person that loves you! Staying "friends" with them will be emotional torture once they start talking about future girls/guys they're interested in! Remaining in the friendzone will lead you to a life of bitterness and anger being spineless enough to allow it. I know because I was foolish enough to do it all through my late teens and 20s and am still recovering! :/ Save yourself the heartache and walk away, it will hurt way less!
Corey is the man to listen too when you feel like shit and don’t think you can make it another day. Thank you brother 🙏
Most women tend to friend zone nice guys. And use them to fulfill their emotional needs. To not feel so lonely being single, until they get with the person who they actually want to be with. And then it turns out that the person who they actually want to be with is no good.
There's no problem being friends before getting in a relationship with someone. But it's important to be clear with your intentions and not use the person. The same goes for men not just for women. Men who are only interested in a one night stand, and then lose interest.
Two uploads in two days, you're on fire man. Keep up the good work from the UK!
Same similar situation as me. I flew a girl from the East Coast to here in Cali and let her lived in my home for 3 days. I know too very fast. We had the same chill vibe and enjoyed each other. But the moment that I was displaying weak behaviors, she started subtly disrespecting me and I was just letting it happen, she took advantage of me and became very aggressive/abusive. I thank God that I was just seeing these things happen on an observable point of view and I wasn't fully attached to her. She then madly packed up and left. But the fact that I was allowing this to happen to me, I just can't tolerate it anymore. Time to fully commit in being a 3% Man!
What was she doing to disrespect you???
If she's acting up gotta discipline her
Thanks for the response and ball busting coach! Truth I needed to hear as to not delude myself
Were you the guy who wrote this story in to him?!
@@hellosirimlookingforcrackg776 Indeed
I love your work. when i was younger I delt with lots of girls that were flakey and uninterested. Your advice is really valid and from your advice of.letting the girl come to you works no problem. Only deal with woman who have high interest and treat it like a game of tennis, if she ai'nt biting than cut contact until she shows that she wants you.
On the "all my relationships started off as friendships first" comment, I would've come back with "Oh right, yet you're single right now and not married..."
Just went through this. Went on two dates with this girl recently and she seemed excited and even came back to my place after the second date and still wouldn’t let me kiss her. Had a bad relationship with her dad and just set all these rules on herself for no reason like friends only first. I stopped contacting her. NEXT
Period
Bro maybe it was the same girl! Lol
That friends only beforehand shit is bullshit. You know she's most likely fucking the dudes she's interested in on the first couple dates.
@@NemesisX94 absolutely right absolutely right, I was dating a girl for two months two months,!!! we had a trip planned for three days she agreed got the room reserved, a week later she got distant and Flaky , I left her place Friday night Saturday morning she text me I think we should get to know each other better before we do a trip like that WTF,.... her EX came back in the picture, then she tried to friendzone me, I said no friends no platonic romance only never heard from her again😘
If a woman truly wants you she'll break all the rules in the book. She will only use rules for friends and orbiters. But for a guy she fucks she'll literally do anything no matter how embarrassing and self depreciating it is to her.
I dealt with a girl who I thought I was seeing but we had an argument over text and I told her I’m not interested in a platonic relationship and she was like “so basically you can’t be friends with someone before a relationship. I don’t think that’s healthy.” I told her to give me a call if she changes her mind and she pretty much said “so what the fuck is wrong with being friends first and texting? I don’t see the differences between friendship and a relationship”. After that I walked away and meant it.
id block women like her
Lol the difference is easy.... sex ... good for you bruh
Have self respect. Get out of there. Look for other women, other goals, other hobbies, etc. Don't waste money and time on someone who doesn't want the same things you want. Never compromise
He did better than I did with getting three dates with her. I ASKED for three dates and none of them ended up happening.
Cory you're absolutely right, I read the book seven times, this girl I was dating had low-interest about a five, I think an ex was in the picture, + abused by her ex-husband for 17 years and father, so it was damaged goods anyway ..(she said I think we should remain as friends don't expect anything more) that means no punany, I never said anything cuz I was not that interested, just like you said tries to get meals out of you waste your time calls once a month hey that's get together.. just the cheek or a hug ...so I don't even contact her she still reaches out this is been going on for over 2 years I don't even bother her, I should have told her no platonic no friendship ...but I see just where this goes ,, the friend Zone It's The End Zone guaranteed 100% don't ever accept a friend friendship from a woman you will get nowhere why they explore their other options😘
Time it's precious. You can't buy time. So don't wasted. The right person will want to spent time with you, meet you, chat, texting, it has to flow.
Personally hes wasted to much time on the girl whos not interested. You need a girl who you can click with when you date a girl you want it to be effortless
Im trying to get me a doctor. Out of my league big-time. Haha but who cares
@@captainscentsible1811 no disrepect but with an attitude like that your not going to get anywhere in life bro
@@captainscentsible1811 Strong beta vibes
This was enlightening, thank you so much. I’m a software engineer and relationships is not really my thing. So really wanted to thank you. I’ll be looking for another girl.
Went on a date with this chick that was 2 year sold than me, had a great time but she said "Im taking a break from dating for myself so lets be friends" then I just said "Ok" but only to see her lie about it on her tinder bio. So I just ghosted her and See her at the gym everyday and don't even knowledge that she exits.
When a woman starts testing the hell out of you, it only means one thing: she's NOT into you, period. You better off dropping her cold right there and then, saying perhaps something like: Hey, you know, I'm not having fun with you, good bye! That'll show her some manly posture and frame. She may start chasing you instead, if not, so be it. Next!
She sounds like she‘s pushing him around. Not a personality that I want to deal with.
Be it known. The nuances of dating varies greatly. I once had a woman fall in love with me, strictly based on my inviting her out on an impromptu breakfast date. She specifically told me, it was one of the nicest things she had done in quite some time. After the date, she expressed to me, that my invitation to take her out, had caused her to want to be with me.
I also took a different woman to a restaurant for lunch, and from then on, I couldn’t get rid of her. LOL! So it all just depends on the woman, and timing. Not always a science.
Guys don't even realize how they come across as desperate.
There is this woman that I have been asking out for two weeks and she always says yes and ends up flaking. When she is with me, she acts interested, but going on dates is always a flake. Today I decided to leave her and let her go live. No pettiness, I'll just never pursue her again.
The EXACT same thing is happening to me, we hung out once but she agrees to get together then flakes or says she's too busy with homework, I'm done with her, I wanna hangout with a girl who is enthusiastic to see me
@@krinkle7695 HELL YES! Great mindset to have! block those low interest women
girls like that usually have deeper issues, not worth
I heard a story of a guy in the 1960s, that talked to multiple women, and the wife initially rejected him and came back around wanting to date him
Maybe this girl just wanted free food and drinks.
"Nichts Gut" Lmao Im German and That was so Hilarious and Random XD
Invite her to your place. If shes a yes, good. If shes a No, tell her to call you when she changes her mind. In the meantime, move on to the next woman.
When a women wants to be FRIENDS kick it to the curb for a simp to pick her up .....FRIENDS 😂🤣🤣🤣 PLEASE
Just block her and move on. No need for all this back and forth. U told her u don't want to be friends once. No need to do it again. Show her by leaving and not looking back.
I have read it 2 times and have made some improvements but I know I got a long way to go.
Im a guy..I've always been pretty successful at not really trying at all.
They are so used to simps that when they meet a legit dude, its intriguing and throws them off.
DON'T DO IT!! LET'S JUST BE FRIENDS! SO WALK AWAY!!
I just say i've got a friend and introduce her to my invisible friend until she pulls a face and walks off
coachhh with the WIN!
After getting back together for the second time, this time 8 months, the first time 6 months with the breakup in between lasting 3 months, she dumped me again two weeks ago over the phone.
She asked if we could be friends while crying and stuff. I said I find that disrespectful.
In the last two weeks since the break up, she’s reached out three times already. Sharing something about her day, and then two texts asking how I’m doing. I’ve not responded to any of them.
Now I’m thinking to either stay NC or send this:
« I don’t think it’s appropriate for us to be talking after your decision. After what we had, I can’t talk to/see you non-romantically. Pretending otherwise would be insincere. Good luck in finding what makes you happy. »
Thoughts?
What's happening corey another great video.. haha you'll never get access to the box ever!!😄
Great job Coach!
Being in the "friendzone" with a guy/girl that you wanted, there isn't a more depressing place to be!
Don't join in and play their games. If she really wants to do that, take your ball and go and play somewhere else. I for one, are too old for that shit. If you have to manipulate attraction and constantly construct scenarios to try and get the prize, it is already too unnatural. God, I wish I was gay.
It also seems to me that she was already in a relationship or perhaps in love with someone she wasn't sure felt the same way and was looking to keep this guy as a back up
What did we do to deserve all the amazing video’s coach?
Walking away and having little to no interaction tends to flip the script. But why try that hard? 😂
The worst is when you meet a girl from a dating app that says "no hookups", but you hook up anyway on the first meeting, and then they say let's just be friends. Totally confusing. This girl treats men like shit and then wonders why all men leave her. Go figure.
Bayareablackman here ❗ going in letting her know you're busy even if not show indirect interest in other women while with here ya her that F-ZONE BS thank her in your mind and drop her name to the bottom if you do see her again purposely call her another chicks name at least once IF SHE'S STILL AROUND MAKE ONE LAST ATTEMPT TO HIT IT OTHER THAN THAT " POP SMOKE N GHOST"
This guy just needs to move on. Plenty of fish in the sea, and read the book more.
Most definitely
Let's be straight a lot of guys put themselves into that zone too by valuing platonic time more than physical time. Feeling guilty and wrong about themselves seeing someone as a sex object. Society also brainwashed this into you as a guy to be ashamed about your male gaze and to ignore your deeper impulses at every turn. I think a lot of guys if they were just honest to themselves about what they wanted they wouldn't be friendzoning themselves so easily.
LOL WTF??!! Video on a Tuesday 😲
It seems to me that he must have done something needy earlier that she felt strong enough to give friend zone vibe. If he would have kept her wondering about him etc. she would never think about that in my opinion😉
She sounds like way to much work. Do yourself a favour and find something better with a more mutual interest.
Just had a girl try doing this to me yesterday after taking a hour drive up to her house. I simply declined walk out her front door blocked her number and deleted it
I always shoot em down for that didn't happen much but I'm glad you said that It always made no sense to me for a woman to be my friend. Why? Guys are into guy things as simple as that. I don't want a hang out buddy for a woman I do that with my boys. Woman are for well romancing. Another thing in this is just my opinion there is far too much B's dealing with the modern woman. Alot of hang ups alot of them think about it sometimes in the wrong way then instead of confrontation to you they just dismiss you and never say why. Unless you ask them and even then it might not be an honest answer. I just came out of a 12 year relationship with kids ECT... I'm back dating now again unexpected but it seems like slot of the potential woman I come across have alot of expectations alot of them it's a joke really. If your a 250 pound 5'5 woman and you think your entitled to a fit guy that's just isn't realistic. Fee weeks back I was using a dating app got a message from a very overweight woman who said I'm perfect for her I'm fit I'm close I'm already a father. Now I never responded but the point being someone in her shoes should either A find someone else that would be into her.
B lose the weight first than try to get what you want. It's insulting I don't want a fat chick and I was over weight at some point but I got off my ass and did something about it because there is alot of competition out there I want to be better than the rest.
Hope I never see her again, wish I never agreed to the friend zone!
When you Frendzone a women .... It crushes them, they get very angry more so than a man ! i recomendit highly...Then move on!! Next!!
Don't ever get into friend zone in the first place, tell them i don't want to be your friend.
I just told this to a girl 2 days ago, i said it before she said anything about friends. I said it because she said i wont touch her butt when we dance, so i said i don't want to be your friend.
When i got friend zoned, i ignored her text for two days and she ended up visiting my apartment when i was out on a date and said that she missed me and who was i with.
Like what
I have found when girls do all of this jacking around with plans it's just best to walk and never look back. Either their interest isn't high enough or they are too chaotic with plans for my taste.
If it ain't 1+1, walk away son!
Ahh yes the friend zone worse than the twilight zone.
The woman has *_EVERY_* opportunity to Decline his invitation to meet up. He's made himself clear - he wants "romance". She can say, "No thank you"...
... But instead, she wants the friendship - she wants the date. Just not the "Jiggy-Jig" at the end of the night!
Exactly.
That's what happened to me after 3 months of chasing her. It's been 1 month i said farewell
"Niet goed" that was Dutch. Engels Alstublieft😅
Accepting a woman's view on ANYTHING means that you have completely submitted your frame to hers.
Remember Tomassi's Iron Rule #1: FRAME IS EVERYTHING.
Thanks coach
So almost 2 months ago my fiance left me for another guy behind my back with a few lies on her end and as soon as that happened I got the audio book per advice from my older brother and I've been listening to 3% man about once or twice a week so I've been through it about 6 times more or less and my issue is that i feel extremely anxious around people in general I'm the guy that needs to go to the mall and chop it up with girls i don't find attractive and it's been hard for me to try and apply what I'm learning because of this crippling fear, I even broke 2 dates I made with girls over a dating app and I just told myself I'm gonna give myself time to heal but deep down it was out of fear that I wasn't gonna show up my best or get straight out rejected.. I'm listening to the book alot everyday at work pretty much but without applying it I'm going nowhere!
Get rejected is also part of this thing to be a man .
A true man stand up and don't care about rejection it will just be one more scar .
She got free meal out of this guy.
Worse on me.
Chick manipulates me blatantly. To the point of getting me into a supermarket and fill up her fridge.
Getting nothing in return 🤦🏻
Ive got a women I dated a while ago hitting me up, she is still with guy she left me for and wants to be friends still after all this time haha why doesn't she pick up what I'm laying down,I can walk away and mean it easily with her even tho I'm still attracted to her and she knows it,but i stand my ground but she doesn't take no for an answer, I have control maybe she hates that???........
Move on bro.
Maybe she realised she likes him after going Panera Bread .. At. Least he had a shot master Corey
Matador or doormat .
Which one do u think I will be ?
-Francis in House of CARDS
I know guys don’t mean to put themselves in the friend zone you meet a girl and you start off as friends mutual. But then our manly instincts kick in and you want some booty and when she’s not going for it we get mad
i know someone who's been friendzoned by the same girl for 8 years
8 years!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes but what about men who manipulate women with the friend zone?! That happens too!
Fair call, for that matter apply Corey's advice. Value yourself dear.
At least you get sex out of it, stop complaining. Guys in the friendzone can’t even get a handjob so shut up and quit complaining!
Spat my wine out at 13:53😂😂
Some can be very cruel....many men ignore that....
These emails sound more and more pathetic with each listen of the audio book. I think that's a good thing.
It is.
honestly after the 2nd date i would of stopped responding it would of been to much for me if she trying hard to friendzone me constantly i would of told if you don't want to date me that's fine I will find someone else and say goodbye
if you honestly see yourself being just friends with them why not? but if you want more cut em off
Some women who do this do not know the true meaning of friendship. Her idea of "friendship' is taking men for granted. Women who do this are not worthy of your friendship let alone to date.
@panthornberry I didn't say anything about women owing any guy they rejected a date. Some women who reject guys are genuinely interested in friendship, some other women do offer friendship as diplomacy; the latter is what I'd be wary of and keep my distance. Nobody owes anyone anything, be a romantic relationship or a friendship.
@panthornberry of course it can't be helped if said women are not attracted to you, but on the same token, them asking you to be friends when you wanted something more is disrespectful. It's just better to decline politely, wish them well and walk away.
@panthornberry find people who celebrate you not tolerate you. That's what the "Friend Zone" is, not friendship. Genuine friendship is not about being manipulative, it is being there for one another; it just happens during the course of a friendship when some people catch feelings for a friend, then those feelings aren't returned for any reason, including not being attracted to said person. Even if the person in question accepts the rejection and the friendship, he knows to set boundaries and not let his/her friendship being taken for granted. No "simping."
Read the book. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again. Then read it again.
Some girl I was with added me on Instagram after 4 years out of nowhere. I want to ask her out but idk man.
Dont do it
IF she broke up with you. Her adding you to Instagram means absolutely nothing. She needs to do 100% of the pressuring. After all you are a man of value. Allow her to contact you via DM or phone call. Give her the opportunity to chase you! Good luck brethren.👍🏼
@@jeffrey874 yeah, Ill let her ask first. So weird how she came back after so long.
@@sigmaballs93 🤘👍
She added you to spy on who you’re with and what you’re up to. Ignore her.
This seems like a lot of work for a date with one female.
That's why you should focus on women who are obviously really into you.
If i wasnt experienced, i would have thought that story was fictional …
but oh man these are evil fr
Friendzone is the lonliest place in the planet
My ex blocks me on her social media because I told her I’m not accepting being your gay male best friend while you date n sleep with other men sorry but not sorry 🤷🏿♂️