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Brad, we built a 40 by 60 full metal building, with concrete floor, insulation, and a 12 ft porch. (roof 52 x 60) Just big enough for my Tractor and all my attachments ((brush cutter, bucket, forks, grapple, harrow, tooth bar on porch) with rear blade, box blade, land plane, still outside on grass). , plus all the tools for the equipment, and UTV, Farm Truck, yard tractors, etc. Also use this for a welding station and wood storage. This is about the right side and we considered a smaller building and then decided "pay for the pain just one time" and we have not regretted it. I think Deb is right.
This is our 3rd barn on the property and it was built just to store tractor implements. Definitely would have liked it to be 24x48 but we didn't have the space in that area to go bigger. The Mega Shed is 44x55 and the tractor and excavator will stay in there!
To help parent column rot.you can coat them from the bottom to 6” above finish grade with flex seal. We build commercial greenhouses and metal buildings and occasional wood structures. We install pressure treated posts and we coat them from the bottom to 6” above finish grade.
I built a similar pole barn here in Central Texas. We have more organic material in our soil than in Florida, but it is still pretty porous. I used stripped cedar posts for our build out. We burned the bottom 3ft of each poke and then painted them with a mixture if diesel fuel and used motor oil. Bug andvrot proof for decades.
Deb is probably right. I had a buddy that built pole barns and part of his job was going back about a year later to check with the customer. How they liked it, complaints, leaks, or any problems. He said almost everyone of them said they wish they would have made it bigger. Time will tell. Good luck.
As an example to what you are saying about how and why you put your post in the ground. I put in a wood post fence without concrete cause I planned to move the fence in a couple of years. Sure enough the post weren't reusable after only two years because of water rot in the clay soil. I put in all other post later in concrete and was even too lazy to put gravel in the bottom of the hole just dry set the post and put a little water on top and waited for the next day to nail the boards on. I wound up pulling a post several years later to add a gate and when I pulled the post and busted the concrete off, I was surprised to see that the post below ground in the concrete was in better shape than the post above ground. I figure the concrete just does a great job of sealing the post when dry tamped in and letting the concrete absorb the moisture from the ground. This is the only way I have done it over the years (50) I'm 70. with nothing but success. My polebarn was done your way, by myself, 40 years ago and it is still solid and firmly in the ground.
Putting screws in ridge increase the tension on screws (the spring force of steel and metal expanding and contracting) resulting in screws loosening prematurely
I worked for Menards in their building materials department. Menards originally started out as a post frame company before becoming a building materials retailer. I sold all of the components for "Post Frame" buildings. Pole barn is the older term for this type of construction. I'm not sure of whether the soil type makes a difference. At my post frame training, we were taught that installing a concrete pad at the bottom of each post hole, filling around each post with dirt, compacting it as it goes, was better than using concrete. What is your understanding on this issue? I enjoyed your video of the construction process and how quickly those pros worked! Experience is invaluable!
Always so awesome to see a building going up so fast. Great team work. Also being smart about what building method works for your environment makes a lot of sense.
Pole barns and fences here in South Texas with a lot more clay do not rot out. The heet tin was worst for wear not the wood. But old posts were creosote not modern pressure treated.
FYI: There is a product that can be used instead of eavestrough, which will prevent a dripline from happening. Basically, it's a group of 'louvres', mounted at least 5" below the edge of the roof. The water runs off the roof, falls, hits the louvres, which are a series of angled (about 40 degrees from horizontal) narrow slats, and is spread as a 'spray' over the ground below. The device has 3 to 4 slats from the roof edge outward. This allows for water flows of various amounts and runoff at differing speeds.
"When I pulled it out of the ground, it was no rot.." Pressure treated lumber has been changed. The EPA outlawed the normal copper arsenic mixtures about 20 years ago. I do not know for better or worse. Pull a 12 year old post,, compare it to the twenty year old post. Some of the 10 or 12 year old stock is junk.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Your reliance on someone else's tech is admirable. I am not such. Some of the stuff I did 30 years ago is fine, not all. Some of the stuff I did 10 years ago is junk. Again, not all. They changed the formulation and I will not live long enough to tell you they did well, I just have my doubts. Been doing it too long.
Good plan there. The posts I put in in 1950 are starting to rot off already. I think you will start to see some rot by 2124. Of course it is windier, average cold is 5 below and 45 to 50 inches of rain on loamy soil.
For post rot n north Florida the best thing I've done is to poly tar 6" above and 6" below grade/ground .post will rot mostly at the surface but in the ground temperature doesn't change and it encapsulated and will preserve
Gee Maude … that gol darn building is still standing after 50 years. God bless those termites! Good thing the Greeks and Roman’s didn’t think that way.
17:46 putting screws in the ridge is silly because you want to get that as tight as possible without wrecking washer.. on the ridge it’ll collapse the ridge you’ll need longer screws and you’ll never get it tight enough.
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What I have seen is water gets between the cement and the pole and just sits there and rots the pole. Some areas they water proof the pole before placing it in the ground.
In the ground for sure that huge wing will take off in the right wind. Anchor that puppy or wish you had! Done correctly good pressure treated posts will outlast you .
I have fence posts that have been in the ground in concrete for 20years and they have zero rot below or above ground . People like believing myths though 😂. Keep building 🎉🎉
I have a two story barn on my property , built in 1930 , 6x6 post and beam all posts in the ground. It is still standing firm. Your building will be standing long after you are gone.
Same way the posts are done in West Tennessee. The soil is sandy and doesn't hold water. Now in parts pf middle Tennessee if you did a hole it will be full of standing water in an hour because of the clay content and water table, so placing the post in the ground would lead to rot in that area. The building methods are definitely area specific.
Built a 24x30 alone, zero help. Dug holes with my backhoe. Used Diamond back metal trusses. Looks like the same ones you used. Poured footers first, then set poles. Backfilled holes. Used rebar pins at slab to tie in poles to concrete slab. Framed exterior walls with 2x4s and sheathed with osb. Roof sheathed with osb also, no metal roof condensation.
I live in a low pitch double wide, and it leaked around the screws in the valley within the first 3-years.So we put the screws in the ridge on the second roof replacement ouch , and 5- years later it hasn’t leaked yet.
when i put up a large shead i had some rhino spay on bed liner from my truck upgrade its basically liquid plastic two part mix spray on just the base. i recently expanded the shed and pulled up the two end 4x4s and there was zero rot so I will keep going that way I put the sray 8 inches above the ground for rain storms etc my back yard floods next project a french drain
I live in the panhandle of Florida also. I just want to know if these companies can put in cement footers and then put the supports above ground level instead of burying the posts?
For your crew. Rod pack the dry mix. Place the post exactly where you want it. Hold it plumb either with a man or a couple of very temporary braces. Pour the dry mix in to above level. Take a piece of no 4 or no 5 rerod 4 or 5 feet long. Larger does not work. Slide that rod all the way to the bottom and slide it to the bottom with repeated motions all the way around,, then go around again,, the rod will not penetrate to the bottom on he second time around,, do it a third or fourth time each pass the rod will penetrate less and less until two things,, One the powder will have settled in the hole,, add another bag or half bag. Second the rod will not penetrate more than an inch or two. Once packed all the way to the top, strip off your temp braces or move your pole man to the next one. The pole will stay there,, you can build your fence or wall immediately. Add water if you like,, but the mix is a moisture sponge it will suck every drop it needs from the surrounding soils. Faster. Stronger. Better.
Why not just pour piers and anchor posts to the piers, easy replacement of a post should it be needed and no wood to even think about in contact with soil.
@@Sailor376also That is how we built ours, the top of the piers were all leveled with the pour, so all the posts could be cut, assembled and lifted onto them as whole units.
Great video and nice narration. I HAVE FOUND THAT I NEVER HAVE ENOUGH SPACE BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS EXPANDING MY TRACTOR COLLECTION. THEREFORE, HAVING A AMPLE SPACE IS ALL I SHOULD EVER HAVE AS IT LIMITS MY COLLECTION TO A MANAGEABLE AMOUNT. More space means more STUFF and how much STUFF do we really need? PS I'D LOVE TO OWN THAT LITTLE MACHINE.
I like Miss Piney Grove's T-shirt, we all need to be doing that fervently these days! I don't know what the grading rules are down in Florida but in the PNW West Coast lumber bureau rules state whatever dimension is called for (like for your purlins) usually #2 and better grade. A select structural grade, stamped SEL STR or SELECT, 2x6 will have the same structural strength as a #2,2X10. so if all of your purlins were 2x6 SEL STR it would have the same strength as if they were #2 2x10's. easier to handle and less $
@@PineyGroveHomestead Yes, a well oiled team can really move things along. I had five young fellows who do this day-in, day-out to put up the building (I did the interior work) and they just kept going from a 7am start to 3pm when it was done, with only one short break. (I have a time lapse here on the 'Tube if you're interested) Like you, I did the site prep (30 ton of soil out; 60 ton of stone in with my BX22) so they had nothing get in the way of just putting it up quickly.
Great inspiration for me. I plan to build a pole barn in approximately 2 years. I’ll safe this video for a reference. Your wife is definitely well built! It’s only meant as an honest compliment. Thanks for doing this!
for now it may look small but come time it wont be so small when its time to send back the sumit and attachments! unless you guys decide to buy them out right!
They do not install in Escambia County. We wanted them to build my 30 x50 woodshop and asked them a couple of weeks ago about pricing, once I said I was in Century, they said forget it. So I am back again trying to find someone that will take my money.
Right outside Philadelphia in NJ that will be cherry hill, pensauken it's all clay soil you will have to put gravel to keep the water away from the post or it will be sitting in a fish tank. wow you 😮
I don't know the answer, but if the ground is so wet or doesn't drain, what good does a couple of inches of gravel do in the bottom....the water still doesn't have anywhere to go below that???
Great episode and they did an excellent build. Ok guys, I fell for it. Everyone in the room yelled, IT'S NORTHWEST FLORIDA! 😂 So remember, when you're in the Panhandle, you're in Northwest Florida. 😅 Keep up the excellent channel!
@PineyGroveHomestead you guys are doing great! Keep it up. I went through the same thing with the Planning Department so I feel your pain. We're in a rural county too (nearby) that writes everything geared for the beaches and the nonsense carries to the north end acreage.
unless you continue to saturate well after top layer of concrete is cured the bottom half of dry mix will never get enough water to set and meet compaction requirements for psi strength and especially around the rebar....fail
I drill a hole through one end about 3" down and put a loop of rope through it. Makes it easy to carry a few of them at a time and you can yank them out of wherever you jammed them into.
Deb's right. You did not build it big enough. My pole barn is 40X50 and is still not big enough. You will be surprised at how fast a barn fills up. BTW Backyard is coming to my house very soon to add lean-to's on my front and back, thereby enlarging my footprint. I have heard about Backwoods Building and Truss for years and after watching them put up your first barn and getting to see their work firsthand (through your camera lens) sealed the deal for me. Once again, Deb's right! EDIT: My wife and I just watched this video....her first comment was "Too small!".
My philosophy when building a barn or shed is to figure out the absolutely largest size you could ever imagine you might need and then double it if resources etc. allow.
Great video, but do not pan with the camera zoomed in -- ALWAYS zoom out first, then pan, then zoom back in if you want. This keeps viewers from getting motion sickness, and makes your amateur production look VERY smooth and much more nearly professional. (And when possible, talk less, picture more; it's just better!)
Im at 4 minutes 29 seconds and I heard your wife say the pole barn aint big enough. Hold everything, great stopping point to plan a bigger Barn. Does your wife have an unmarried sister? Up until now, I've yet to hear a mans wife say build it bigger, you know they are always right, as it proves out again here.
She's been saying that from the beginning in every video since we cut down the trees!! We've got 2 other buildings...this is just for implements. Thanks for watching.
I love old Pole Barns thats built with all " Poles " post are Great But not Poles ,i watch many videos what the people call ther barns Poles , i like ehen you call them Post thats what they are you got hood video Please call it A Barn , im just Old Fashion , P.S . Never use metal , thats Grauge 😇🇺🇸😊😍🎼.........!!!
I'm not calling you dumb But you didn't take your wife's advice I think you said 20x36 definitely not big enough I don't think you will get you tractor with a attachment on it
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Man this guy loves his voice I wonder how the wife feels
@@craigfrancisy24u She edits all the videos.
Brad, we built a 40 by 60 full metal building, with concrete floor, insulation, and a 12 ft porch. (roof 52 x 60) Just big enough for my Tractor and all my attachments ((brush cutter, bucket, forks, grapple, harrow, tooth bar on porch) with rear blade, box blade, land plane, still outside on grass). , plus all the tools for the equipment, and UTV, Farm Truck, yard tractors, etc. Also use this for a welding station and wood storage. This is about the right side and we considered a smaller building and then decided "pay for the pain just one time" and we have not regretted it. I think Deb is right.
This is our 3rd barn on the property and it was built just to store tractor implements. Definitely would have liked it to be 24x48 but we didn't have the space in that area to go bigger. The Mega Shed is 44x55 and the tractor and excavator will stay in there!
Good afternoon did you compare prices with barn usa and if so what made you use backwoods.
To help parent column rot.you can coat them from the bottom to 6” above finish grade with flex seal. We build commercial greenhouses and metal buildings and occasional wood structures. We install pressure treated posts and we coat them from the bottom to 6” above finish grade.
Good tip!
I built a similar pole barn here in Central Texas. We have more organic material in our soil than in Florida, but it is still pretty porous. I used stripped cedar posts for our build out. We burned the bottom 3ft of each poke and then painted them with a mixture if diesel fuel and used motor oil. Bug andvrot proof for decades.
It will outlive us! Here's the finished product: ua-cam.com/video/BdZvpoqZiJY/v-deo.html
Deb is probably right. I had a buddy that built pole barns and part of his job was going back about a year later to check with the customer. How they liked it, complaints, leaks, or any problems. He said almost everyone of them said they wish they would have made it bigger. Time will tell. Good luck.
They are never big enough! Here is our other barn: ua-cam.com/video/2NNQnPaPG7U/v-deo.html
As an example to what you are saying about how and why you put your post in the ground. I put in a wood post fence without concrete cause I planned to move the fence in a couple of years. Sure enough the post weren't reusable after only two years because of water rot in the clay soil. I put in all other post later in concrete and was even too lazy to put gravel in the bottom of the hole just dry set the post and put a little water on top and waited for the next day to nail the boards on. I wound up pulling a post several years later to add a gate and when I pulled the post and busted the concrete off, I was surprised to see that the post below ground in the concrete was in better shape than the post above ground. I figure the concrete just does a great job of sealing the post when dry tamped in and letting the concrete absorb the moisture from the ground. This is the only way I have done it over the years (50) I'm 70. with nothing but success. My polebarn was done your way, by myself, 40 years ago and it is still solid and firmly in the ground.
I expect the same will be true with this building. Thanks for watching!
Putting screws in ridge increase the tension on screws (the spring force of steel and metal expanding and contracting) resulting in screws loosening prematurely
I worked for Menards in their building materials department. Menards originally started out as a post frame company before becoming a building materials retailer. I sold all of the components for "Post Frame" buildings. Pole barn is the older term for this type of construction. I'm not sure of whether the soil type makes a difference. At my post frame training, we were taught that installing a concrete pad at the bottom of each post hole, filling around each post with dirt, compacting it as it goes, was better than using concrete. What is your understanding on this issue?
I enjoyed your video of the construction process and how quickly those pros worked! Experience is invaluable!
Always so awesome to see a building going up so fast. Great team work. Also being smart about what building method works for your environment makes a lot of sense.
Thanks for watching!
Pole barns and fences here in South Texas with a lot more clay do not rot out. The heet tin was worst for wear not the wood. But old posts were creosote not modern pressure treated.
Modern posts certainly don't have the treatment that the older ones had, that's for sure.
FYI: There is a product that can be used instead of eavestrough, which will prevent a dripline from happening. Basically, it's a group of 'louvres', mounted at least 5" below the edge of the roof. The water runs off the roof, falls, hits the louvres, which are a series of angled (about 40 degrees from horizontal) narrow slats, and is spread as a 'spray' over the ground below. The device has 3 to 4 slats from the roof edge outward. This allows for water flows of various amounts and runoff at differing speeds.
Interesting! We get a lot of heavy rains here in Florida.
That’s a nice building, Man! That mini SS is a game changer for that team! I’m impressed!
Those boys can build a barn quick!
"When I pulled it out of the ground, it was no rot.." Pressure treated lumber has been changed. The EPA outlawed the normal copper arsenic mixtures about 20 years ago. I do not know for better or worse. Pull a 12 year old post,, compare it to the twenty year old post. Some of the 10 or 12 year old stock is junk.
It should last our lifetime....it would be a huge mess if it doesn't!
@@PineyGroveHomestead Your reliance on someone else's tech is admirable. I am not such. Some of the stuff I did 30 years ago is fine, not all. Some of the stuff I did 10 years ago is junk. Again, not all. They changed the formulation and I will not live long enough to tell you they did well, I just have my doubts. Been doing it too long.
Good plan there. The posts I put in in 1950 are starting to rot off already. I think you will start to see some rot by 2124. Of course it is windier, average cold is 5 below and 45 to 50 inches of rain on loamy soil.
I have a feeling I won't care by then!!
For post rot n north Florida the best thing I've done is to poly tar 6" above and 6" below grade/ground .post will rot mostly at the surface but in the ground temperature doesn't change and it encapsulated and will preserve
Good tip.
I had a pole barn with poles in the ground that is still standing after being built in 1972 in Minnesota.
Gee Maude … that gol darn building is still standing after 50 years. God bless those termites! Good thing the Greeks and Roman’s didn’t think that way.
Pressure treated lumber is NOT THE SAME today...different chemicals n process
17:46 putting screws in the ridge is silly because you want to get that as tight as possible without wrecking washer.. on the ridge it’ll collapse the ridge you’ll need longer screws and you’ll never get it tight enough.
Agree!
at my old house we had a pole building built with 8x8 in the ground 45 years ago. its doing fine up in N.E. Ohio
Millions of buildings are! Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomesteadtreated lumber is NOT the same as treated lumber 20years ago
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Just had a 30 x 45 with 12' ceiling built. I did concrete floor and it epoxy coated about 2 months ago
We want to expoxy our big shed!
What I have seen is water gets between the cement and the pole and just sits there and rots the pole. Some areas they water proof the pole before placing it in the ground.
In hindsight, we would have shrink wrapped the posts.
In the ground for sure that huge wing will take off in the right wind. Anchor that puppy or wish you had! Done correctly good pressure treated posts will outlast you .
Here's the follow up video: ua-cam.com/video/zWgnTFQeiwI/v-deo.html
Blocks are exciting... whenever i see one on ground, i always pick them up
I have fence posts that have been in the ground in concrete for 20years and they have zero rot below or above ground .
People like believing myths though 😂.
Keep building 🎉🎉
Probably depends a lot on the soil and climate. Thanks for watching!
I have a two story barn on my property , built in 1930 , 6x6 post and beam all posts in the ground. It is still standing firm. Your building will be standing long after you are gone.
That's the plan. Thanks for watching.
Same way the posts are done in West Tennessee. The soil is sandy and doesn't hold water. Now in parts pf middle Tennessee if you did a hole it will be full of standing water in an hour because of the clay content and water table, so placing the post in the ground would lead to rot in that area. The building methods are definitely area specific.
It should last the rest of my time on earth!
I hope your lifetime gives them posts a run for the money😅
Built a 24x30 alone, zero help. Dug holes with my backhoe. Used Diamond back metal trusses. Looks like the same ones you used. Poured footers first, then set poles. Backfilled holes. Used rebar pins at slab to tie in poles to concrete slab. Framed exterior walls with 2x4s and sheathed with osb. Roof sheathed with osb also, no metal roof condensation.
Awesome! We did some ourselves in this video: ua-cam.com/video/zWgnTFQeiwI/v-deo.html
I live in a low pitch double wide, and it leaked around the screws in the valley within the first 3-years.So we put the screws in the ridge on the second roof replacement ouch , and 5- years later it hasn’t leaked yet.
Sounds like a good fix for you!
when i put up a large shead i had some rhino spay on bed liner from my truck upgrade its basically liquid plastic two part mix spray on just the base. i recently expanded the shed and pulled up the two end 4x4s and there was zero rot so I will keep going that way I put the sray 8 inches above the ground for rain storms etc my back yard floods next project a french drain
Thanks for sharing. Good idea!
I live in the panhandle of Florida also. I just want to know if these companies can put in cement footers and then put the supports above ground level instead of burying the posts?
Call up Backwoods on the number on the screen and see what they can do.
For your crew. Rod pack the dry mix. Place the post exactly where you want it. Hold it plumb either with a man or a couple of very temporary braces. Pour the dry mix in to above level. Take a piece of no 4 or no 5 rerod 4 or 5 feet long. Larger does not work. Slide that rod all the way to the bottom and slide it to the bottom with repeated motions all the way around,, then go around again,, the rod will not penetrate to the bottom on he second time around,, do it a third or fourth time each pass the rod will penetrate less and less until two things,, One the powder will have settled in the hole,, add another bag or half bag. Second the rod will not penetrate more than an inch or two. Once packed all the way to the top, strip off your temp braces or move your pole man to the next one. The pole will stay there,, you can build your fence or wall immediately. Add water if you like,, but the mix is a moisture sponge it will suck every drop it needs from the surrounding soils. Faster. Stronger. Better.
Why not just pour piers and anchor posts to the piers, easy replacement of a post should it be needed and no wood to even think about in contact with soil.
@@meghan7547 That is a very valid idea.
@@Sailor376also That is how we built ours, the top of the piers were all leveled with the pour, so all the posts could be cut, assembled and lifted onto them as whole units.
Great video and nice narration. I HAVE FOUND THAT I NEVER HAVE ENOUGH SPACE BECAUSE I AM ALWAYS EXPANDING MY TRACTOR COLLECTION. THEREFORE, HAVING A AMPLE SPACE IS ALL I SHOULD EVER HAVE AS IT LIMITS MY COLLECTION TO A MANAGEABLE AMOUNT. More space means more STUFF and how much STUFF do we really need? PS I'D LOVE TO OWN THAT LITTLE MACHINE.
3:28 I’m seventy and was wondering if you needed any help?
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This would have taken us too long to build on our own....had to bring in the pros!
I like Miss Piney Grove's T-shirt, we all need to be doing that fervently these days! I don't know what the grading rules are down in Florida but in the PNW West Coast lumber bureau rules state whatever dimension is called for (like for your purlins) usually #2 and better grade. A select structural grade, stamped SEL STR or SELECT, 2x6 will have the same structural strength as a #2,2X10. so if all of your purlins were 2x6 SEL STR it would have the same strength as if they were #2 2x10's. easier to handle and less $
I think ours are #2 yellow pine. Here's the next step - framing! : ua-cam.com/video/zWgnTFQeiwI/v-deo.html
the post's will roat though the time frame is more like 60 years in well draining soil. brackets don't add but maybe 1k to the cost
That would make us almost 120 years old!! But yes, there are many ways to build them so they last forever...at least the posts.
Always build as big as you can afford.
Luckily we have other barns! This one is just for implements....maybe!
My 24x36x10 post frame shop went up in a similar time frame....it was an amazing process to watch.
These boys have got their process down! Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomestead Yes, a well oiled team can really move things along. I had five young fellows who do this day-in, day-out to put up the building (I did the interior work) and they just kept going from a 7am start to 3pm when it was done, with only one short break. (I have a time lapse here on the 'Tube if you're interested) Like you, I did the site prep (30 ton of soil out; 60 ton of stone in with my BX22) so they had nothing get in the way of just putting it up quickly.
I'm glad to see you used the same company for the barn. They're good.
Are you going to anchor this barn the same way you did the other one?
Good memory! This one is not as tall as the other one so we are not as fearful that it will catch too much wind and lift up!
Great inspiration for me. I plan to build a pole barn in approximately 2 years. I’ll safe this video for a reference. Your wife is definitely well built! It’s only meant as an honest compliment. Thanks for doing this!
She's a keeper. We framed it in this video: ua-cam.com/video/zWgnTFQeiwI/v-deo.html
I do not know if you know this that the Dingo are made in Brisbane Australia,great little piece of Equiptment.
They love it for their business.
Great looking barn! How much does something like that cost to build these days? Thank you
About $10K.
Here's framing: ua-cam.com/video/zWgnTFQeiwI/v-deo.html
Enclosure: ua-cam.com/video/BdZvpoqZiJY/v-deo.html
All looks Great.
Looking forward to seeing it with the sides up.
You both be safe.
GOD Bless You Both
Thank you! Enclosure video coming soon!
Screws go in the flat certified metal roofer by VP building system,
Agree!
Yes screws go into the flat. But Florida has hurricanes and the ridge seem where the panels overlap needs to be done as well.@@PineyGroveHomestead
for now it may look small but come time it wont be so small when its time to send back the sumit and attachments! unless you guys decide to buy them out right!
Deb thinks I will always have too much stuff! I don't really sell anything....just buy!
They do not install in Escambia County. We wanted them to build my 30 x50 woodshop and asked them a couple of weeks ago about pricing, once I said I was in Century, they said forget it. So I am back again trying to find someone that will take my money.
That’s the same way we build up here in Michigan. I’ll be having one of my own put in pretty soon.
Awesome!
As far as the screw pattern it depends on the type and grade of tin.
foundation is the most important , I would mix the concrete , nice vid thanks
Thanks! Here's the next step: ua-cam.com/video/zWgnTFQeiwI/v-deo.html
Did they forget to soak the "in ground" portion of the 6x6 posts in diesel\oil mix to prevent the posts from rotting away ?
It will last our lifetime or more as it is but there are ways to protect it so it lasts longer.
What? Lol
Recommend drainage system (NDS). Mastic on pole ends.
Lots of experience with them! ua-cam.com/video/AWgNPrqVjH0/v-deo.html
It's not the size that matters, but rather how skillfully it's used. ;)
Agree!
That logic is flawed.
My brothers did an awesome job!
God Bless America
Here's the finished product! ua-cam.com/video/BdZvpoqZiJY/v-deo.html
Right outside Philadelphia in NJ that will be cherry hill, pensauken it's all clay soil you will have to put gravel to keep the water away from the post or it will be sitting in a fish tank. wow you 😮
I don't know the answer, but if the ground is so wet or doesn't drain, what good does a couple of inches of gravel do in the bottom....the water still doesn't have anywhere to go below that???
Well im inspired to start making kits. In Oklahoma we build alot of these.
Everybody needs one or two!
I am building a 40x60... actually having someone build. Not sure on specs for area yet
That sounds like a nice sized barn!
Nice she is correct Js
She is!
Great episode and they did an excellent build. Ok guys, I fell for it. Everyone in the room yelled, IT'S NORTHWEST FLORIDA! 😂 So remember, when you're in the Panhandle, you're in Northwest Florida. 😅 Keep up the excellent channel!
It's hard to get everything correct when in front of the camera!
@PineyGroveHomestead you guys are doing great! Keep it up. I went through the same thing with the Planning Department so I feel your pain. We're in a rural county too (nearby) that writes everything geared for the beaches and the nonsense carries to the north end acreage.
I agree with the Mrs. 24 × 36 would've been nicer.
I totally disagree with dry pour concrete. I also never put wood in the ground or in contact with the ground. You sacrificed speed for quality.
Thanks for watching.
Great Job‼️
Thanks!
Always want it bigger ,my garage 30 by 40 I wish it was 40 by 50, my car port was 18 by 20 needed 20 by 25, never fails
Totally understand! We have several building on the property: ua-cam.com/play/PLG5yS75HLzo2MCmO8M-IQXfvkv-ivvpAU.html
I was told when I was building my shop, add a 1/3 than double that ! He was right!😂. Listen to Debbie
Luckily, I have other spaces! Videos here: ua-cam.com/play/PLG5yS75HLzo2MCmO8M-IQXfvkv-ivvpAU.html
Looks great
Thanks! More to come on this building!
well organized crew!!
We agree!
You're suppose to add water to the concrete before you put it in the hole.
Not on a dry-set
You should put a cement floor in
Would love that but pricey!
unless you continue to saturate well after top layer of concrete is cured the bottom half of dry mix will never get enough water to set and meet compaction requirements for psi strength and especially around the rebar....fail
Have you ever dug up a post after a dry set a couple years later.....good luck getting the concrete off the post!
Hey Brad, New Sub here. Great project looks great.
Welcome and thanks! It's been a job getting it to this point!
Hurry is only needed when catching fleas :)
And running away from a falling tree!
Nice Chair Force, I mean Air Force shirt.
Imma be honest; when I saw those 6x6 cuttoffs I mumbled "man that's good cribbing right there" before you said you were excited about them.
Right? I use stuff like that all the time.
I drill a hole through one end about 3" down and put a loop of rope through it. Makes it easy to carry a few of them at a time and you can yank them out of wherever you jammed them into.
I am surprised your county code inspector allow you to place post down into ground with concrete
It's how pole barns are built here.
Deb's right. You did not build it big enough. My pole barn is 40X50 and is still not big enough. You will be surprised at how fast a barn fills up. BTW Backyard is coming to my house very soon to add lean-to's on my front and back, thereby enlarging my footprint. I have heard about Backwoods Building and Truss for years and after watching them put up your first barn and getting to see their work firsthand (through your camera lens) sealed the deal for me. Once again, Deb's right!
EDIT: My wife and I just watched this video....her first comment was "Too small!".
Your wife and Deb are not wrong, but it's not our only building! It's just for implements and maybe the Summit.
My philosophy when building a barn or shed is to figure out the absolutely largest size you could ever imagine you might need and then double it if resources etc. allow.
Never big enough!
Pressure treated lumber is NOT rhe same today
True
the height needs 4 feet more 6 feet on the length and width
Never big enough!
The pole barn is not big enough she is right it’s not big enough 😊😢😊😊😅
Never big enough! updated video here: ua-cam.com/video/BdZvpoqZiJY/v-deo.html
No matter how big you build, you will always find that you should have built bigger.
Truth!
Did the guy need lessons on using a hole digger?
Close the handles dig 😇
Cleanup after is big... i hate when i have to clean up after people
Great video, but do not pan with the camera zoomed in -- ALWAYS zoom out first, then pan, then zoom back in if you want. This keeps viewers from getting motion sickness, and makes your amateur production look VERY smooth and much more nearly professional. (And when possible, talk less, picture more; it's just better!)
she's right though,,, once you wall it in that tractor will feel tighter
True!
Im at 4 minutes 29 seconds and I heard your wife say the pole barn aint big enough. Hold everything, great stopping point to plan a bigger Barn. Does your wife have an unmarried sister? Up until now, I've yet to hear a mans wife say build it bigger, you know they are always right, as it proves out again here.
She's been saying that from the beginning in every video since we cut down the trees!! We've got 2 other buildings...this is just for implements. Thanks for watching.
@@PineyGroveHomesteadI was put off by the wife and her unnecessary comments 😢
@@lisamosier9638 Can't please everyone.
4:09 - been saying that all her married life lol
I love old Pole Barns thats built with all " Poles " post are Great But not Poles ,i watch many videos what the people call ther barns Poles , i like ehen you call them Post thats what they are you got hood video Please call it A Barn , im just Old Fashion , P.S . Never use metal , thats Grauge 😇🇺🇸😊😍🎼.........!!!
I grew up with "real" pole barns like that!
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I'm not calling you dumb But you didn't take your wife's advice I think you said 20x36 definitely not big enough I don't think you will get you tractor with a attachment on it
This is our third barn on the property. What we plan for this one will fit just fine.
She doesn't think its big enough.....
Right?!
Have to agree with the wife, To small LOL
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As always she comes to complain LOL
TAKE THE TIME AND TAR THE HECK OUT OF THE BOTTOMS OF YOUR PT POSTS.
I should have sprayed Flex Seal on them!
I want to see the work not the talk.
Watch it again with the volume off.....the whole video is action.
@@PineyGroveHomesteadwhere you bough this metal cross support?
@@VtoGarage The company's name is in the description of the video and also splashed up on the screen several times.
@@PineyGroveHomestead a gonna check thank
Would have been a better video if you showed the work instead of you running your mouth.
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Why do you need to be rude hell I like enthusiasm
I agree with her that it's going to be too small for you
We have other barns: ua-cam.com/video/2NNQnPaPG7U/v-deo.html
I love how your wife thinks!! Think I would love to clone her if I may!!!
She's a keeper!