How to remove IHS from PS3 CELL CPU and RSX GPU
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- Опубліковано 22 вер 2024
- Used to remove CELL IHS - Feeler gauge purchased on ebay. Rounded off edges and sanded down the end using dremel very thin to get under IHS
Used to remove RSX IHS - Heatgun set to 1050 degrees farenheit for about 30-45 seconds. Don't recommend over 60 seconds. Then used a thin butter knife to pop it off with a clip from a business card under the knife to protect the BGA. Then used a razor to clean the RAM blocks on the RSX and same for both IHS. But on the CELL to clean off the residue i recommend a small ended blade like the one in the video otherwise you can scratch it. The RAM blocks can also very cleaned be finished using sand paper.
I personally choose not to use glue when putting back the IHS, simply because in case you need to rework again its not a pain to remove and so there isnt more stress on BGA. Also because when put back together carefully it doesnt move.
I also make sure to use a board support when doing this
I do not take credit for this though, through forums and threads ive found many great people sharing their knowledge, im simply making an easy video to help others.
Repaired successfully! I used on the cpu (Cell BE) a "Oil Knife Spatula N°1" (the smallest); now the console doesn't suffer anymore of overheating and auto-shutdown, it's like new! THANKS YOU!
I am also face the same problem
My console is overheating
@@kwabenakwabena7716 take courage, heat the surface of the chip with a hairdryer and enter delicately with the spatula, remaining along the edges. Remove the old thermal paste with alcohol and put a new high viscosity thermal paste on the chip (I used MX-2), reassemble the heatsink making sure that the metal plate remains on the chip. If the shutdown problem isn't solved the Nec tokin capacitors could be exhausted.
@@kwabenakwabena7716hows your playstation?
Thank you for this. This proves one doesn't need the special pry to open these. Now I feel more confident to go about this.
The way you did it made it look like you were cutting through butter. Well done.
Jay W. - Your heating up the IHS mainly, once it gets to about 120F is when i pop it off. I measure this with IR thermometer. This isn't anywhere close to melting the solder, which is the point where you SHOULD NOT move the board.
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YLOD fixed with this on my PS3. Thanks!
Pls how i also have YLOD after u remove what do u do after ? Also is it difficult to remove? What tools to make it easier? Cuz this video scares me
@@kojomensah8036 It is scary. If you are too scared don't do it. I just cleaned all surfaces afterwards and used MX4 sparingly on both sides of the heatspreaders. It was hard to keep the spreaders in place while connecting the heatsink. Theory is the YLOD is overheat and not solder! Like a PC CPU fan not working. This is a dangerous repair and may not work. I had nothing to lose and have fixed 2 this way.
What tool did you use? Did you have to sand it thin?
@@matthewflores3449 Sand what thin? I did use a flat scraper to remove the glue thermal paste and isopropable to clean the regular thermal paste off. No sanding. I also used no1 from Amazon Artist Painting Spatula Craft set of 5. No I didn't sand the tool.
@Jjoonn Are you talking about the surround glue? The silicone glue needs to be cut as close to the heat spreader. None of the deliding needs heat. In fact I doubt heat does anything. These aren't put together with heat glue. Some people just get used to using hair dryers to remove phone screens etc. This isn't my video and isn't the only source that I watched. 1 guy used a razor blade. Be careful not to cut deeper than the 3mm glue wall.
What kind of gum should we use to hold the metals back in place?
2:35 SCREEEEAMER PLZ off sound
I use a .14 feeler gauge and its sanded down very fine with a dremel tool
So you removed the white covers in order to put thermal paste on the chip itself so next time you change the thermal paste it will be easy cleaning the paste from the chip.
For me, the gpu was really easy to pop off, just took a gentle poke with a screwdriver and it popped right off like it was barely hanging on...
The CPU on the other hand, I need a feeler gauge lol
or razor the corners on the very top slowly
AWESOME, straight to the point.
Removing IHS to change thermal paste under it is very important or replacing thermal paste on IHS will be enough? It makes huge differents in temp? I'm bit afraid removing them.
I did it, you gain 20 degrees celsius (minimum) and prevent ylod and auto-shotdown. Heat the cpu with a hair dryer and cut the glue under the cpu with an Oil Knife Spatula N° 1.
@John bro i have Ylod so it solve my problem if i remove the IHS?
a butter knife, dude? i'm stunned! tried to open rsx with heat gun and razorblade, as suggested by a german pro, but i'm to scared to rip anything on the mainboard or the rsx-platine. gonna try your method today. one question: if you heat up rsx for 30-45 secs, isn't it dangerous to apply pressure to it (while plopping it up)? most guides recommend not to move anything right after use of heating gun.
worked wonderful. thanks you very much! i used some sort of credit card as an underlayer.
+Jay W. Hey guy, do you remove the CELL's IHS also ? I wanna do it but I'm scared. Could you give me some tips ? Thanks.
what will happen if you scratch the floor of the gpu whihle scrapping the old glue
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LOL 2:34
i am still laughing so damn hard lmao
MY EARZZ
I know right lmao
Fool girl
Perfect to the point. No need to take off the IHS from the other chip? (South bridge/North bridge)
Can I use a hair dryer for the RSX? If so, for how long on the ihs plate?
2:33 SAVAGE!
Bez greske..Hvala.
Thanks for the video, no damage
I'm going to attempt this soon. I'm thinking I might try a razor blade to partially cut into the epoxy of the corners of the RSX to weaken it before heating with a powerful hairdryer for a little while. Then pop it off. It was scary the force applied here that sent the knife out of control. That's ripe for accidentally smashing components off the board. CPU looks fairly easy, probably oil knife/painting knife and slide it around slowly. I might leave the glue on the board around the CPU for fear of scratching it, but clean whatever is left on the IHS itself. It should sit low enough to get good contact with the die. I will probably glue both down again, but likely with very small droplets of gel superglue or some such and only on the corners. It'll stay put then for reassembly but be easy enough to slide off again later if needed. I might go with conductonaut metal for the dies, and then standard paste e.g Gelid GC extreme/kryonaut on top of the IHS. Whatever I find lying about. I feel the conductonaut is ok since the IHS should be glued down, but if I wimp out of that and think I'll short something I have enough non conductive silicone paste to do both. I'll inspect the board first and figure out my risk factor....
@Sammy Van Dankstein dont remove anything with a razor, just one scratch on the traces and the ps3 is gone
That glue around the cpu..when closing it back what to replace it with?
I don't get under the Cell IHS. It seems like it's completely made from copper or something. No way to get under it to get it off. Even with the thinnest tool I could find. I have the same model as you (60Gb)
how do you glue the lid back in place?do i have to put the thermal paste on those 4 chips in the left cpu as well?
To glue the lid back you need to use thermal adhesive around the edge of the cell processor and on the 4 RAM chips of the RSX GPU. Use regular thermal paste on the centre chips.
paddy mcg sorry for the possibly stupid question but: would that work if I apply Mx4 thermal paste where you say to apply thermal adhesive instead? I am getting the stuff ready to perform surgery on my Ylod ps3... Thanks
flying frenchman Absoloutley not, do not remove the heat spreaders unless you have thermal adhesive. The adhesive keeps the heat spreaders from sliding off the GPU/CPU. If you don't have thermal adhesive just replace the thermal paste on top of the heat spreader after you've reflowed it and see how it works for you.
Hey paddy, do you know the name of the tool at 4:51? By the way, I've seen someone putting the heat spreaders back (with thermal paste holding on into the cover metal side) without thermal adhesive. What thermal would you recommend though?
Don't know the name of it but any razor blade or flat knife would do the same job.
I'm not saying you can't do it, I just wouldn't recommend it.
I recommend Arctic Silver thermal adhesive.
Taking that silicon off around the chip you could potentially scratch the chip, I made an IHS tool from a nail file I wish they still sold the IHS Buster but they don’t
what is that tool called that your using?
Looks easy but I didnt move a milimeter of the IHS
Have you ever heard of somebody, cooling the PS3 via direct die?
I would be highly interested whether this could work.
It may be somehow beneficial in theory. But it the case of the ps3 I don't believe the die would be able to reach the heatsync without the help of the heat spreader. Plus I think chip dies are pretty fragile so it being able to distribute heat through the spreader and be protected is probably for the best. Then again Im no professional and have no clue what I'm talking about so take it with a grain of salt! Good question!
Do you know how i can determin if i have a bad graphic chip on the ps3
okay, linky please for that awesome rounded thing that you use for the CPU to go around the edges to remove the glue :)
Also, if you HAD to use some kind of glue to set these back in place, just because some of us like to do that, what would you recommend that we use?
Lastly, do you recommend the use of copper shims sold on ebay, or the new thermal pads to replace Sonys thermal pads on the little extra chips in the fat PS3s? Thanks!
+TheNewFakk28
Looks like he is holding a set of feeler guages. I'm not sure which blade he used but shouldn't be too hard to figure it out once you see them.
www.amazon.com/ABN-Piece-Master-Feeler-Measuring/dp/B00T86ADZ4/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1459481661&sr=8-3&keywords=feeler+guages
We keep seeing videos of only the deliding process but never any video of the assembling.
Watch Nsc mods
no todos tienen así la pasta térmica adhesiva
why you remove the glue from the cpu core ?
I removed the RSX chip and cleaned it, put it back in, and stuff, but now the PS3 won't show an HDMI signal, what could be the issue? Forget the Cell chip, I couldn't even remove that one, even when I put it on high heat low speed. it did not want to come off, so I left it as is.
Most likey you damaged it
Damaged traces or memory chips
Question guys! Im having a black screen I’ve tried reset, hold power button till beeps, removed the hard drive to see if it was the hard drive and nothing, do you guys thing its a GPU problem? Thanks
Maybe a little late but did you check you hdmi port is good sometimes they like to rip off the motherboard
Which is the one on the left? Right? Thanks for the video!
+Brian Ha RSX (or GPU) ;)
hi. I did everything like on video but after assembling it starts and turns off . could you tell me what I did wrong . thanks
SashaTessa Brobably destroyed something. So its a brick now...
Either you scratched the inside mirror looking thing or the ihs not seating right/making contact. Check UltraNSC videos.
You actually trusted him?
Can I play ps3 without the covers of the chips?? Or do i also need put thermal paste underneath
No you cant. Safety is better in this case.
You DAUN!
i destroyed the ps3 I have herr trying yo follow othre video....
NSC MODS has the best videos for removal. A lot of details like marking the Heatsinks before removing the paste so you know exactly where to put them back. How to stick the two IHS to the Heatsink when putting back together. Lots of details & things to do & not to do.He still does this & makes videos so not knocking this guy but there’s more info available & you can destroy your PS3 if you don’t do this correctly
CPU can be moved to the CECHL04 model
No ESD???
2:34 😐🤣 unexpected
I tried the GPU IHS removal trick,but mine was literally glued with epoxy,so the DRAM are ruptured and the whole PS3 is cooked
Since removing only the CPU IHS fixes the problem,so I would recommend not to remove the GPU IHS.
bingo, bish bash bosh. this is how you do it!!!!
great! After u take it off then what you do with it?
Clean off the old thermal paste, add new thermal paste. Reglue the ihs back on and install your heatsink and fan on...
@@astrangeone re-glew with what?
Boom 🤯🤯
Whythe others dont remove it they just apply the new thermal paste then it work
Thermal paste goes under heatspreaders if you dont change it there its still gonna overheat even if you change thermal paste on top
@John lol
Got Yellow light of death after this... :(
@Jjoonn Doing it with a kitchen knife probably wasn't a good idea lol. I dunno of it was the pulling of the IHS on the RSX or the scratching of the top "PCB" part of the CPU
But in any case my ps3 is dead now
I killed a ps3 as well trying to remove my IHS lol
30 sec?! oh shit I killed mine then :'(
can u put this in your pc and run it above 20fps on cod bo2 or payday 2 cuz my pc is shit i want to rip apart my ps3 and upgrade my pc/hp laptop :( no windows 10
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you would have as much luck attempting to upgrade a microwave with the engine from a car as you would have trying to upgrade a PC with console parts
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is it pssible to use the ps3 prosessor on computer
bass boosted no
bass boosted Actually.. Yes, if you have the possibility to make your own motherboard and chipset
Super slim is odd. There's no IHS on the RSX or ram chips. Heat pipe on underside of fan sits right on top of chips....I dislike super slim they cut more design corners to lower cost and you can't jb them.
Yes, they cut costs, but you actually can jailbreak SOME of them (the ones manufactured until the year 2010).
Until now....with ps3 han and ps3 xploit
They removed the IHS because it’s more efficient for cooling to have direct contact with a heat pipe. Also the processors are smaller so they make less heat as it is.
I have several PS3s of different models. The slim and super slim I bough brand new and they still work perfectly and do not overheat. They are also both softmodded.
My FAT PS3’s I’ve had to replace the GPUs
@@anthonysinclair1578 It's not jailbreak it's hen which is different.
How to crash a Sony device in 6 minutes 😂😂😂 GG
How to brick your PS3 like a pro
Does it still work?
Nope. Stopped working after 2020, sadly.
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Can we use that CPU to build another pc?
bad sound effect in camera recording 2:33
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can someone tell what can you do with the cpu of a ps3 can you put in a pc tell me the socket
1. You can't use it in a PC.
2. It uses different architecture than PC's (PowerPC, like old Mac's not x86)
3. It's not on a socket, it's on BGA
NOT THE RIGHT WAY. VERY DANGEROUS. I'M A CERTIFIED ELECTRONIC TECHNICIAN AND IT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY. PLEASE PEOPLE DON'T DO THIS1
pico 740 lol nothing wrong with this method
Very dangerous to take the cap of like this on the chip with 4 memory chips under. They can brake and also the guy can unsolder the balls under the chip.
...you say "not the right way" and don't offer a solution despite being a "certified electrician?" What?
@@Anreii i don t have to tell the right way. Go to electronic school like i did. That s all.
@@sergelavallee913Yh mate sure I'll just dish out a ton of money and somehow make time to go to electrician school to know why this one small thing is wrong because you somehow can't explain sounds reasonable lol
is this a way to repair ylod
prevent it
TrxPz/FLeX-_-TrxPz you the one who actually don't know shit
Replacing the GPU is the only permanent fix.
Reflow or a reball of the same GPU that gave the YLOD, is going to give you a YLOD sooner or later and the more times you reflow/reball, The worse the GPU gets.
If you don’t even have the proper tools to replace the RSX such as an IR rework station (minimum of $500), a soldering station, a CPU jig with stencil for the RSX, flux and of course new solder beads - you’ll never get it done. You will also need to source BRAND NEW RSX GPU and you’ll mostly find them on Alibaba or Aliexpress and buy them from China. Some you can buy them per item, some you have to buy the entire lot of like 10 or 100 RSXs.
Unless you want to invest all the money for the proper tools and parts and want to at least make some money out of it, don’t try it.
I spent over $1000 just getting such tools and parts to reflow a few of my personal PS3’s. They were all the fully backwards compatible 60GB CECHA-01 model so they are precious to me.
Now that they all work and have been cleaned and tested to work 100% without overheating and now loud fan noise, i boxed them all up in their original boxes (except one) and sealed them up in Saran Wrap and then put them in a vacuum bag. They are now in a plastic box in my closet.
the r WHAT
its not as easy as it look like i destroy my PS3 after i done that i scratched my cpu without knowing and iam not noob as i hacked many time my xbox 360 and stuff so dont try it .unless you dont care about your ps3 anymore and you have nothing to lose .
Using someone else's hacks on an Xbox doesn't make you any less of a noob when it comes to something unrelated as removing an ihs
If your careful it can be removed without damage heat it up to about 120 and use very thin fishing line to saw the old thermal adhesive should wiggle out after that
+David wieczkowski when i meant about xbox hack i mean board hack like soldering some wire to the board which my point to show is that the video you can see is not as easy as it look but still very useful for expert people .
N Noni Ah I get you
Also figured out the easiest way to remove the dam thermal epoxy is.....spray on flux remover used it and it just giggled out of place after letting it soften with flux remover for about an hour
why the fuck should you remove that
David Roman yea why??
To replace the thermal paste.
Because the thermal paste beneath the heat spreaders degrades over time, a manufacturing failure made by sony, that could only have revealed itself over time. Of course, now they build them without the heat spreaders, saves money and increases cooling efficiency.
So what's the point of this?
replace the thermal grease under the IHS to bring down the temps
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you are crazy -_-
Does anyone do reballing for the ram chip to replace it with more ram, ps3 ram only 256mb they could easily upgrade now with much more
Thank god i dont let you guys rebuild my ps3 haha. You should never ever use a razor blade to scrap off thermal paste on the vrm or on the die. You are introducing scratches that the thermal paste has to fill in afterwords. Why not just use alcohol or a thermal paste cleaning solution as those wont etch your die and vrm.
That white stuff on the vram isn't paste, it's EPOXY. you HAVE to scrape it off, just wiping it with IPA will do NOTHING.
bluej511 on the die, no, never, but the RAM chips have epoxy on them like the guy above said, which you will never ever get off with alcohol or thermal paste solution
Is it possible to replace the cpu on a ps3 with a better one? Like a duo core?
+adfggffffffddffd No of course not.
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Why do you say of course not?
Because consoles have a system too, like your PC, or phone. That system knows what it is supposed to run on. So even if the PCB/mainboard used a socket, that allowed you to replace the CPU - it would still not work. The only thing you can replace is the HDD/SSD in consoles. (But the PS3/Xbox360 for example would need more ram, instead of SSDs.)
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Okay so they both have systems... Where are they different? Why can i replace a cpu on a computer with a different cpu but not on a console?
Addendum: Sony since then killed this Linux/Cluster possibility on the PS3 with an update. Why? No one knows.
Even with the latest firmware - you can crack a Playstation 3 so it can run an FTP server, run cracked games and such.
So, I don't know.
Oh, and the latest generation of consoles - Xbox One and PS4 both use a generic x86 cheapo AMD CPU/GPU (APU) unit.
They are also weak / offer no extra features like the Cell did.
The only thing they have now is the "bare metal API" which basically let's developers push out some more frames per second.
But this is on the way for OSX/iOS/Windows too (DX12/Mantle).
So yeah, now a new console is basically a pre-packaged PC with a custom OS and locked down set of hardware. (i.e.: you cannot upgrade components)