PTO Clutch Replacement
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- In this video I replace the electric PTO clutch that is responsible for engaging the blades on a 2008 Hustler Sport zero turn lawnmower. The process would be similar to many other zero turns as well. A quick, simple, money saving repair.
I cant begin to describe how aesome it is that you skipped the entire part of struggling with removing the old clutch. Thanks for that.
Its cool though. Found some other vids where they use an air tool with blunted chisel to vibrate it loose
@@RobbyMaQdid they hold your hand all the way through?
As everyone else mentioned. Skipping the part of actually removing the clutch is really awesome. Glad you did that for us
I'm with Greg on this one. It was the off camera manipulation that I wanted to see. Not wanting to caveman it and damage something else.
That off camera manipulation is EXACTLY what I needed to see! 🤯
Right? That's EXACTLY what I said when I saw he had it all off. The taking it off part is the MOST IMPORTANT THING!
My thoughts exactly!
If you look at ua-cam.com/video/rDHsECKHIEs/v-deo.html and you'll see the proper alignment.
This helped me. 1.I used an impact to remove the bolt and clutch pulls off easily. 2. You explain how to align the clutch during reassembly. And 3. How to tighten the bolt and using locktite. Your video helped me. Thanks
Thanks T-wood glad the video helped you out.
Didn't show taking the clutch off or putting it on. Those are the key potential difficulties.
U have one of the only videos that show anything about the hydrostatic pto drive belt u search and the only things that come up are people showing how to change deck belts thx didn't think of the impact walked in the house got my 3/4 impact and the rest is history thx man
Thank you for the video, it really helped me a lot and saved a lot of money
So, it's suppose to be how to replace, yet you didn't show taking it off or putting it back on. LOL
No kidding. Lol
WELL SAID
Exact thought I had
Exactly! Mine won't come off and I feel like I'm doing something wrong.
Yeah my thought too
yes no show of replacement, but hey he did pose at the beginning with sun glasses
Thank you for doing a video with proper pto placement, but could you have a little more of the process documented? This was more of an explanation of what it takes to do it, not how to do it
Yeah this was my first how to video and there was a good deal of struggle with camera placement. I am sure I learned more from making that video then anyone will watching it.
one thing you need to remember is that when you remove the old clutch looked to see if there is a spacer because you will need to put that back on with the new one,if you don't you will have problems with the belt lining up properly.
Great tip, thanks for sharing!
It would have been nice to see how u fought off clutch thx bro
FWIW, looking at the surface rust on the shaft, it appears that the old clutch may have been stuck and required a bit of persuasion to get it to slide off, before you slip the new clutch into place, put some Never Seize on the shaft, it'll make it much easier the next time you have to remove it.
As everyone knows, the hard part of any task like this (when you've never done it before) is the actually removal and reinstallation process. You skipped over that part and just said "after lots of off camera manipulation". Well, that's the part I needed to see. I have the bolt out, but it's sized up. I'm sure there's a trick, but it would have been helpful if you had shown that part. Basically, this video just shows a before and after picture of a clutch removal. Sorry, but just not helpful.
Do yourself a favor for the future. Use some anti-seize on the shaft so they don’t rust together and become one.
Thank you for the vid. So my clutch is fine I just need to replace the transmission drive belt. I finally got the bolt out but for the life of me I can't get the clutch to drop off the drive shaft. How did you manage and do you think it's okay to give the thing a few whacks with a rubber mallet to maybe jar it loose. Thanks.
I think if you were careful you would be ok. The worry would be in gap in the clutch, mine was non adjustable so if you were to knock it out of tolerance it may not function properly. Others I have seen have three little adjustment screws, if it is adjustable I would feel a little safer banging on it a bit. You still have to be able to check the gap though to adjust it though and the gaps we are talking about are in the thousandths of an inch like 12,000ths or so.
Why do all the other videos tell you to remove the entire deck??????? Your demo is Badass... Thanks...
.... Thanks for the torque setting.
Top bolt size ?
Pully bolt size ?
What to do if top bolt comes loose ?
Thank you so much bro
Would have liked to see the clutch plug removed and installed
This is a great tutorial, thanks bud
For the screw that goes centered of the pto into the crank was it threaded clockwise or counter clockwise
The clutch on my Cub Cadet 1525 came off easily with an impact wrench - I doubt I could have gotten it with a wrench. And then it just falls right off. Putting it back on was easy until you get to that part about holding the shaft with Chan-nel-locks, because the Cub Cadet shaft is near impossible to reach. It's going to have to be impact for this install.
Sounds like you got it all wrapped up Todd. 👍Hope you didn't get behind on your mowing.
if you have a manual pto LT42B can you upgrade it to the electric pto? and is that a major undertaking?
Thanks!
I Have a cub cadet rzt that started disengaging and now it wont engage,if I move the right handle bar just right it trys to engage and goes back out.Any ideas where to start troubleshooting?I checked the pto for continuity and it is good so I am thinking it is the pto or safety switches.Any Suggestions will be grateful.
Well you could check for power at the plug on the clutch when it is engaged. If its not getting power when you engage it could be a safety or the switch. If it is getting power but not engaging I would assume the clutch is bad.
Hey boss I have 54 hustler fast track and I disconnect the wire the clutch and the blades still working when I started you know what kind the issue is pls
It is the off camera manipulation I came for... 🤬🤬🤬
The part of camera shoot I needed was missed only half of my clutch came of top part how do I get top half off
Any idea what the bolt holding the pto from spinning is called
Was the torque setting .50 ft pounds or inch pounds ?
I think i needed to see the off camera manipulation because i removed the bolt but it wont come down. What do i do to slide the clutch off the shaft?
If the clutch is bad and being replaced smack it with a hammer, if it is still good try light tapping with a rubber mallet. The danger is hitting too hard and knocking it out of tolerance. Some clutches are adjustable mine was not.
Do you have a video of putting the cable on
Can anybody tell me if that stop can be replaced on a RZT 54” cub cudect
How do you remove the clutch without an impact wrench? It turns the whole drive shaft when you turn the bolt. I'm going crazy. I need to get this fixed.
On my mower there is a area on the shaft that I can hold with a channel lock, that is what I used to torque the nut at the end.
Part number for The PTO Clutch for a GT 1554 Cub Cadet.
Good stuff
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
What good was this? You didn’t show the part people needed to see
Entire drive belt (not deck belt) assembly turns when trying to loosen pulley bolt to take clutch off. Any ideas?
Are you using an impact?
I am not. I’m using a ratchet.
@@jdherring8445 If you are using a ratchet you will need to find a way to hold the crank or the pulley like I did with the channel lock towards the end of the video when I torked the pulley back on.
In my case, I need to take the clutch off to replace the belt, but the bolt won’t budge and the motor just turns over if you put a impact wrench on it what’s your suggestion?
I was able to remove mine with the impact but when I torqued it back on I found a spot on the shaft I could hold with large channel lock. You could try that.
@@MasterofNone2 Thanks for the information however, I was able to get a curved jaw vice grips just below the pulley on top and after that I was able to get thebolt out. 🙂
How do you loosen the bolt that holds the clutch assembly on? My clutch shaft and engine just spin.
A air impact did the job for me, otherwise you will have to find a way to stop the engine from turning. When I torqued the bolt to put it back together I used a large channel lock.
I found a large vice-grip would keep the shaft from spinning and I could then loosen the bolt.
@@cmlyk 👍
Not a bad video but I agree with everyone that ya got to show all parts of removal, i don’t really understand why ya wouldn’t put that on here so all of us that do it ourselves could get past the part ya probably had trouble with, anyhow I got to figure out on my own now how to get that part out at least I see the other pulley stays on, that at least helps, thanks for that at least !!
Working on a clutch replacement on our Dixie Chopper. The clutch looks to be in good condition but when you pull up the PTO switch, the blades do not engage.
Check if the clutch gets power when you engage it, there are a series of safties that have to happen before the clutch will power up too, seat, control handles position ect. Make sure those are working. If there is power to the clutch and it's still not engaging it could be faulty.
What size socket did you use to remove the bolt?
Hi Elise, I believe mine was a 16mm.
What type of ramp do you use? Thanks!
I have it backed on to a pair of car ramps in this video.
@@MasterofNone2 Thanks. I did the same with car ramps. Metered the windings. Good. Bypassed all wiring and connectors with two wires and touched to battery terminals. Clutch Engaged. So all good there. Could not find schematics for a steering wheel model so followed one wire to a relay. Unplugged, cleaned terminals. Worked a few times. Disconnected relay and tapped it on my workbench over and over to free, shake carbon off burnt or stuck reed switches. It's worked fine for 2 weeks. Found a replacement relay on eBay. Due here from China in a week or so. Thanks for this video, it got me started on troubleshooting this clutch issue and saved me money too.
Which way do you turn the bolt to take that off
That was a couple of years back but if memory serves mine was counter clockwise for removal.
Hey guys for the off camera manipulation. Tgat what i was looking for too but all you have to do is smack it with a hammer near one or 2 of the 3 nuts postioned around ot for gap tighness and it it fell right off
Is there a special tool to get this off? I understand in the comments that it was your first video. You could have a niche with successful videos in this genre if you could video the whole process. But...even if you can't redo this video, you might could leave great info in the descriptive box under the video. Thanks.
Mine just essentially fell off, other people who I have talked to just tapped on it with a rubber mallet. Yes I have thought of redecorating the entire video but can't bring myself to tear apart the mower when it is working just fine.
Is there a way to test the clutch. My blades stopped engaging tonight. Maybe it's the clutch.
First thing I would do is test for power at the clutch, it could also be the switch or one of the safeties.
@@MasterofNone2 I fixed it. Found a small section of wire on the harness section worn through with only about 3 strands of wire still intact. Cut at bad spot and added new wire to gjve added length for more flexibility around the mower frame. I have mowed 3 times since without issue.
Thanks for the video! Good content and instruction. I’m trying to remove my clutch to replace the drive belt and do some other maintenance while I’m in there. The problem with mine is I can’t seems to break the bolt loose that holds the clutch in place. Mine has a huge washer behind it with 2 flat sides. I don’t have a wrench big enough to take it off. It’s a really weird configuration. The mower that I have is a Cub Cadet Super LT1050. Any suggestions? Thanks again.
Are you using an impact? If not your going to have to have a way to stop the crank from turning while you loosen the bolt.
Master of None The day after I sent that msg to you I bought and higher torque impact driver and it came off!!!! Never could get that engine pulley off after taking the clutch off. I wanted to put some lubrication on that part of the shaft for future maintenance. Side note. I also removed the two idler pulleys that are clustered close to the “bracket assembly idle arm” located on the drive belt. The pulley in question is the one that is NOT attached to the bracket. It’s the V pulley furthest to the right of you if you are facing the front of the mower with the front end up. I figured since I have it open change those too since the mower is about 13 years old. The problem is I’m trying to figure out should there be a nut on the other end of the through bolt that goes through the V-pulley? When I removed the bolt it was threaded directly into the frame sheetmetal. It is acting as a threaded nut of sorts. Also on the backside of the pulley there was a washer that slipped off of course I can’t find it. The washer was laying flush against the bearing surface on the pulley. I’m not sure if it was a split washer, lock washer but I’m fairly certain it was just a flat washer. Any suggestions? Oh and I also used a telescopic magnet to feel around there for the lost washer but no luck. Thanks again!!!! Wealth of knowledge!!!!
There are large flat washers on top off all the pulleys on my deck, they stop you from tightening the bolt directly on to a bearing. You want those to spin as freely as possible Good job on all the preventive maintenance Clark here's to your mower lasting another 13 years.
Master of None Thank you and may your future mowing task be filled with smooth green grass and no sticks or rocks to ding your blade! Happy mowing sir!
Doing this job now on an electric PTO on a cub...no amount of impact wrenching can budge that bolt..
Is the impact spinning the engine? I know on mine there was a spot on the shaft I could grab with a channel lock, used it to stop it spinning when I tourqed it down.
I'm a cub dealer we use blue lock tight and run the bolt up on 2 with a numatic air impact and then bump it on 3, we also grease the shaft before putting the new one on and that piece of angle iron on this dudes mower isn't for the clutch to bang on he needed it to be in the groove, this guy probably ripped his wires out, if you don't know take it to a dealer
I’m in the same boat. Can’t get the bolt out. Did you get yours out eventually?
Did you skip the most important part of removing the clutch. Or did it just fall off one you removed the bolt?
Sorry I didn't get it. I paused recording to get something to persuade it with, lightly tugged on it and it fell off before I started recording again.
hi. what size bolt is it? mine fell off.
Technically you are supposed to get one from hustler, if I remember right they have a pre applied lock tight on the v bolt.
if i hear off camera" for something i came here to see on camera one more time..
You did not give details as to how to torque the new pto. How did you lock the shaft from spinning to attain 50 lbs foot?
On my mower there is a place on the shaft it could be held with a large wrench , I used a big channel lock.
@@MasterofNone2 I don't have that area that you speak of. So possibly I can pack a cyl head with rope to lock up the shaft revolution
@Robert Goffinett Robert I would try to do a search of how to arrest your make and model of engine from turning so you can tighten the crank bolt. Good luck 👍
I hope you didnt use red threadlocker on that small pulley bolt😂 I would just use new bolt and torque properly, just in case you need to remove that pulley in the future for any reason😂
It's blue thread locker, but you make a good point that the correct thing would be to get a new factory bolt. 👍
Totally missed the assignment dude! We needed to see the "off camera manipulations"!
was the old key on the mower shaft , or was there one on there
If memory serves the shaft was keyed
Yes it was on the shaft and lining it up was about the hardest part of the project.
Where do you order your clutch from
First I found a part # from my mowers documentation, then I looked the clutch up online. If memory serves I actually found mine on Amazon.
WHY THE WIRE DID NOT LINE UP
How to remove a PTO clutch without showing you how to do it...smh!
Took the bolt out of the crank but pulley and clutch won’t come off crank shaft
If you are replacing the clutch and don't have to worry about knocking it out of adjustment go ahead and give it a few wacks with a mallet and it should come off.
Is that on the rear of the mower?
Yes it is below the engine on a lot of zero turns.
I would thumbs up but u didn’t even show the wire part
I don't understand how wet/heavy grass would cause this problem. I just went through this, and yes, this spring has been VERY wet, and my grass is thick. And, yes, my PTO clutch failed. What are we supposed to do? Not mow when its wet and long? I don't "get" how the PTO clutch is susceptible to failure after mowing long/wet grass.
Hi Wayne, sorry you had this problem. Nothing worse than already being behind on the mowing and having a breakdown. When the grass is dry your mower the blades don't just cut the grass but push air around the Inside of the deck blowing the grass out. If the grass is wet it wants to stick to the deck instead. This cloggs things up causing wear and tear on your mower.
@@MasterofNone2 Does the wet, stuck grass, damage the clutch?
@@WayneHarris yes Wayne, the shaft comes out of the engine and has a pully that powers the drive wheels. Below that you have a pto clutch, the clutch allows you have another pully that doesn't have to spin just because the engine is running. It has a break and electric magnets that either engage the pully for the blades or disengage and break the blades. The tolerances in the clutch for it to do this are in the thousands of an inch. The wet grass clogs the deck not allowing the blades to spin freely forcing the blades to slow down. This can cause the belt to slip or can cause the contact areas in the clutch to slip ruining the clutch.
@@MasterofNone2 thank you.
The crappy thing with all these clutches is the fact you can't just press out the bearing.
The bearing fails...you have to replace the whole unit.
Why do they do that 😮
The manual says DO NOT USE the BOLT buy another one.Also says DO NOT USE power tools hand tools only.
You are correct in both regards here G, and while I do reuse the bolt I do use a tourqe wrench to finish off the bolt. Thanks for watching.
Grass still clogged up
Worthless for me
I need to know how to remove the pro clutch which is on the shaft tight
Replace
Ing is easy
Rargh your accent is perfect.?
Thanks I practice it every day.
@@MasterofNone2 letterkenny was my favourite video's last year was that you?
Off camera manipulation is what we wanted to see.
That is a Cub Cadet zero turn
Johnny this is a hustler sport zero turn.
Ha! great! Son of None...
I have since officially changed it to master of son.
Look at ua-cam.com/video/rDHsECKHIEs/v-deo.html for proper alignment.
SMH
Brutal video like 👎 don’t quick your day job
Thanks for watching Jim, don't for get to hit the subscribe button buddy.
You don't say how to lock the shift, all mine does is spin.
Waste of time
Tighting or loosing? If you are taking it off an impact should do the trick without locking the shaft.
Zero help for my zero turn! Not showing the salient parts of the process just leaves everyone in the dark about how to actually remove/install.
Not very helpful when you skip the most important parts of the how to.
Everything difficult was done 'off camera'. No use to me1
This is a BEFORE and AFTER PHOTO it is NOT how to replace the PTO clutch. You did all of that off camera. NO help at all
Worthless information, waste of time. I want my time back. Anything worth seeing wasn’t filmed
So loosening the tension on the belt you don,t show, pulling off the old pto you don,t show, disconnecting the harness you don,t show. What do you show, OH your pretty face! Didn,t hear the click ,cause you were babbling!
Where did your torque spec come from?
Moses gave Hoshea son of Nun the name Joshua (Numbers 13:16) The joke goes: Who in the bible did not have a parents..... Joshua (Hosea) because he was the son of none (Nun).
I have never heard that, I can't wait to share that with the boy. Thanks.
What a waste of time. Nothing to "see" here.
Completely useless video. Skipped the whole installation
Absolutely useless video. Didn't show how to remove or install.
Terrible video. Not showing what we are looking for help with.
Waste of time
Not a good teacher
Useless 😑