The Greatest Small Forward in NBA History Bird vs James REACTION
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Anyone that is old enough to have seen both players play more often than not would say Larry Joe. EASY!
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So true.
Exactly
A lot of 12 year olds automatically say
- LJ
-KD
all the current players.
Bird had the whole package. No holes in his game. Even made 3 All Defensive teams and has one of the highest Defensive WS all time. A leader on and off the court. Best small forward ever. Great reaction bro.
thanks bro and it was funny when I was talkin bout his defense den it came up that bird is better den bro at defense to lol
glad u said that broski. i said larry legend was the best 3 that ever played the game about a 1 yr ago. damn near had to go into witness protection for it. its not even close
@@akumawani man these people dont kno real skill bro thats why ill always say ill take bird over bron 7 days a week
Lebron is not top 10..Wilt jordan bird magic kobe my top 5
There is no comparison, Larry Bird is the greatest small forward of all time. If the game's on the line there's no doubt who you want to take that last shot. #CLUTCH 🏀
facts his stats accomplishments and championships as well as clutch gene all on a tier above lebron
You might also add that BIRD is a far superior free throw shooter.
I've watched Bird play since college. He would wow you at some point every game. It was just who he was. The game came so easily to him. My top player 5 ever.
Bird is my choice. He had what it took to get his team there in so many ways. Great reaction.
thanks so much more reactions on the way
I love the respect you show for Larry Legend. 👏
man have to cuz its to many people trying to talk down on bird when he literally could of average a triple double
@@cartiaekreacts 👍
☘️ Larry Legend
yesssss
remember when bird first came up and malone was on cover of sports illustrated as chairman of the boards, the next series bird out rebounded him in a seven game series, bird good rebound against anybody if he needs to
facts stats prove it he dam near avg a triple double for his career
Bird had 2 50-40-90 seasons. One of only two players ever. Bird and Nash, and Bird did it at a high volume. People underestimate just how great Larry Bird was for some reason. I think maybe because of how it looks.
One of three, Bird, Nash, and Durant, to achieve it in multiple seasons. Larry was the first. It's a shame that those who played before the 3 point line was implemented can't be known. I have to think that Maravich could have easily put up those numbers. That while playing with the unknown heart defect that took him at such a young age. Pure shooting genius, but not the all-round player Bird was.
Larry’s were back to back IIRC 💥
Crazy
@@NC-Mama-Bear Want to know something interesting, if you take the two prior seasons (84/85 and 85/86) and average them with his two 50/40/90 seasons (86/87 and 87/88), for those four seasons (85-88) Bird averaged 50/40/90, it's insane. Another thing to note is that his career average during the regular season was 49.6/37.6/88.6 absolutely killer.
Bird every time. He was all about putting points on that board however they got there. He was a
team/self when he could have been self/team. So many shots he could have taken but included his teammates a lot more than most great players.
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Even Jordan says Larry is the greatest small forward EVER!!!!
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jordan does not say this very clip you see of someone saying larry is better than lebron is old the one of reggie miller was in 2015 before he won his first ring the quotes from dr j and mj are from 2012 even larry bird himself said that todays league the players are amazing
Also Bird was phenomenal no matter how bad he was hurt. Played with a broken eye socket, broken cheek, infection in a toe they made over a two inch cut in wrapped it up a went to play ball. Surgery on both Achilles tendons. Destroyed a finger playing baseball. Playing his brothers team and his brother hit the ball his way and shattered his finger and had a couple surgeries on it and it's still shaped odd. Amazing. It's cool to see these videos. Back in those days you either watched it, heard about it or read about it because we didn't have videos like this.
true and thats what people dont understand hell he was a complete player with all those injuries
People with an above average IQ are already Larry Bird fans. They don't really need stats to see who's on top. *STATS* only reveal a small part of GOAT. You could throw stats away & still see overall who #1 is. Larry would own any era just as fast as he owned the league his first *"PRACTICE"* There will never ever be another Larry Bird. I don't care how many numbers anybody puts up. It's way deeper than that.
facts its jus laughable to me at. this point that there's still a debate
@@cartiaekreacts Most deniers aren't worth the time of day. Thanks
I’m an old man who watched Larry growing up and Larry is my #1 pick of all time. Larry Legend Basketball Jesus is the GOAT
I honestly think Bird is #2 to Jordan on the GOAT list. It's Jordan and Bird for me, those two are separated from the rest.
The 3 point line wasn't introduced until Larry lengend first year in the NBA 🐐
yes and if he was in this day and age itll been over wit
Another great small forward. George Iceman Gerwin
idk howwww I forgot bout iceman as many times I watched how he played and studied his game to add to my own when I was really bout hooping smh that's my fault
How is this even a question? The legend everyday and twice on Sunday!
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I’m old enough at 63 and I’ve been saying for years those of us who seen them both play usually says it’s bird and not even close. Your younger generation has seen a small sample of how he played the game. Actually may even take Dr J and the iceman over James. Why? We’ve all seen James quit on his team and that is the big factor when someone quits. Bird got mean and carried his team never once quit during a game
You are correct on so many points.
@@bruce7709 I would take anybody in the NBA the top 50 other than LeBron James since he's not a top 50 you're right and I think his game totally sucks so I love your response thanks for responding
Bird is probably the best shooter and passer of all time. And he is definelty the most clutch player. And he rebounds at a high level and made a lot steals. And 3 MVP's. Why is it even a questiion whe the best is? Insane.
mannnn I be tryna tell these people bird was what a complete player truly is
@@cartiaekreacts Yeah, it's crazy people don't want to admit it but I guess they like athletes with less skill but who can fly through the air. I ike both syles but when it comes to physical and mental"skills" he's different.
@@ZONEPRESSLLC facts and like I listed how he even leapfrog over pippen or Baylor hell or James worthy
@@cartiaekreacts Yeah, and Baylor had skills and athletic ability. Loved his game and Connie Hawkins ability and skill at the small forward position. I wish someone would review Connie game. A Dr. J and Baylor mix.
@@ZONEPRESSLLC I might have to do that soon
Larry Bird! If you haven’t seen it, the 1992 Dream Team documentary. A must see. Last time Magic and Larry played. It was a magical time 11 future Hall of Famer’s.
should I react to it
I think he is 6' 10". Look at shots of him standing next to Magic who was listed at 6' 9". Bird always looks a good inch and a half taller than Magic.
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Larry legend 🐐
one of the greatest all time
Bird would dominate the league today.
The Fucking Legend all day everyday
Quite simply, Birds skills translate to any era, against any type of defense and defensive rules. On defense Bird would likely do about as well in this era as it did in the 80s, which, by the way, was very high. Maybe not Jordan elite, but pretty damn good. I'm not sure that can be said about some of today's stars. Lebron, with his speed and power would probably still be a star in the 80s for example, but his scoring numbers would dip a bit due to the allowed contact and his only average free-throw numbers. Still he would be damn good in any era.
bird def would be a threat in any era
It's because of money. Lebron was expected to take the mantle from Jordan and Kobe and make that sweet marketing/merch money. He was overhyped by the media because of that. I'm not saying he isn't great but he never had a chance to become the GOAT himself if the media made him one from the start. Bird the Legend wrote his own story, but James was robbed of that opportunity and was expected to follow a script already written for him.
politics messes everyone up except for "politicians"
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You are correct. Look at Magic and Larry side by side, Larry is noticeably taller. Larry was a TALL 6' 10" Magic was a short 6'9"". However, I believe Larry could have been a very tall 6' 10".
definitely could of been
Larry was the first 50-40-90 player, and he did it twice! Enough said!
the architect
Larry Bird was the best passer in the league in a league that had Magic Johnson.
facts I remember somebody say that larry bird was such a great passer that he would make the simple passes appear difficult
LOTS of ppl say LARRY is 6’10”. He’s listed at 6’9” but he’s clearly taller than Magic who’s also listed as 6’9”….I think Larry is happy to let it stand at 6’9” so he takes his opponents by surprise…
true cause I seen that video of him standing next to Patrick Ewing and I was like wait a minute bird almost as tall as Patrick
I started watching these shows when covid hit. And I have watched hundreds. I love your show 42 reasons. One is you don't miss the fine points I love that. And library bird is my hero. Hes 3 years older than I am. We would call off our games. When it got time for Boston to play back in the day PERIOD I'm from Kentucky. That's all we have to even know I'll admit Indiana is higher up. I think they're at the top
taking my state Indiana over everybody else lol
KG 🐐 anything is Possible 5 ☘️☘️☘️☘️
23:18 this dude’s hilarious, want a link to his full video?
IT IS HARD TO AGREE WITH SKIP BUT THIS TIME YES HE IS CORRECT
yes he is
If Larry's body had held up and had a longer career. Everyone would have the Legend at the top of the list of greatest.
facts I wish he had at least 4 rings
Bird faced MJ 38 times in his career and won 24 of those meetings including sweeping in back to back years in the conference finals, including the game where MJ dropped 63.
bird was jus so different
@@cartiaekreacts to me the way to settle the GOAT debate is like this. Bird is a UNICORN, you can have your debate over a GOAT all you want.
@@christopherbartlett9110 lolll true
A healthy Bird? In his prime? Come on, it's not even a question. Larry terrorized everyone in his era, turned an entire franchise around and made every player around him better. The man sat down when he was millimeters away from a quadruple double, why because he was bored and said he'd done enough. Who does that? I keep hearing that Larry never faced any real defense, today he'd get taken out. If the defense is so great these days why are the untouchables putting up such large numbers. Nope, Larry would thrive in today's game.
bird to me would avg a triple double
Bron has recruited or went to teams that were loaded. Bird stayed with 1 team and made his boys better. I watched his entire career as a Bird fan. For my money he is the greatest all around team basketball player in history. MJ the best individual player. MJ , Bird and Magic wanted to play the best. Bron wanted to play with the best. Bron is overrated
I miss that era so much
Sad part was Bird never reached his full potential. Played half his career with a very bad back
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The thing that separates Larry from LeBron is va ideo called four crazy stories that proved Larry Bird was the toughest player in NBA history.
facts played injured and all
I think you're right about Bird being 6'10.
I truly think he is
@@cartiaekreacts Me too
Bird only averaged 1.9 3's per game;He didn't see a 3 point line til his rookie year!
facts people dont understand that at all
Bird 💯
def bird over Hebron
GOAT BIRD vs # 16 JAMES
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Larry Joe Bird is the greatest SF of all time, followed by Elgin Baylor & Dr.J
ill put pippen on that list as well
The only time Bron is on the floor is when he flops. He would hurt himself if he dove for a ball.
man lolll
dont forget Dom. Wilkins....the human hilite reel
he was my dad favorite player being born and raised in Georgia
I have to go lebron 1 vs 1. But in Terms of building a team around I got to go Bird. Also in my all time starting 5 to actually win a game for my life I have Bird as my Small Forward. All time starting 5 for my life.1 Magic, 2MJ, 3Bird, 4Rodman, 5Shaq. Unbeatable lineup.
lmfaoooooo please stop wit the bs theres no way u jus said youll take lebron over bird 1v1 lmfaooooo wtf do yall be smokin
I hear them saying Le Bron made his teammates better. Bird turned pretty good players into hall of famers. Stay right in Gary.
wait you from the G?
I heard in one interview on Bird that was technically 6ft 9 1/2inches tall. Big guy
i still feel like he 6'10 lol
Bird was the 1st 50 40 90 and did it 3 times
very hard to achieve
@cartiaeketchupreacts actually had a 4 year stretch of 50 40 90 with 28 pt average during those 4 years. The only player to ever achieve this. Won MVPs 3 straight years in that span while finishing 2nd the other. Only had 7 healthy seasons before his 1st back injury. Sad he could not have stayed healthy
@@ricklove8588 he still in my eyes the best sf i ever seen
@@cartiaekreacts facts. 💯
Bird would be trash talking James all night and then,,,,,, all net
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You were saying that Bird was one of the only players to put up these kind of numbers with the assist and rebounds. Just so you will know Bird is the only player in history to have a career average of more than 20 points 10 rebounds and more than 5 assists. Bird=24.3,10 and 6.4
could of easily avg a triple double
@@cartiaekreacts agree. If stats would have meant anything at all to him there is no telling what he could have done
@@clifflawrence7479 facts
There was no 3-point shot until the year he started his NBA career, so of course, he hadn't made that part of his game.
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Bird.
greatest sf all time
Bird and scotty is right
The how is hype. Bird first then Scotty and I mean absolutely no disrespect to Scotty. LB is a jump ship, take advantage of player opportunities kind of guy. That is not meant as a negative, it means you don't drive harder, run faster, and push more when the chips are down.
facts bird def first
Yes, Bird in his prime is definitely better than Lebron. WAAAAY better rebounder, better passer, better shooter and a more hard working defender. Their blocks and steals are similar despite being no where near the athletic freak Lebron is.
facts to me Hebron is a athletic magic but he's nowhere near bird as a player
Hye! They left out other important stats! If I had to choose someone who made flopping into an art form, it's no contest: my man LeBron wins, hands down! If I had to choose someone who conserved his energy on the floor by not playing defense or simply gave up coz he knew the game was lost...I ring the bell for LeBron any day! In all honesty, some measure of a player's ability should include what he brings to the team, and in this case, Bird's leadership and will to win inspired the Celtics and made them a better team, as in TEAM.
your right about that to many people be worried bout the wrong shit I never put Hebron over MJ KOBE BIRD OR MAGIC EVEN SHAQ TO
Lb not a contest.
Peanut brain mind 😂😂😂😂😂 i😢 I agree Cartiae 😂😂
lollll
6'10 all day long
that's what im sayin
my friend, your missing listing the Big O and Dr. J on that list.
big O is a pg and its a definite that lebron aint better den dr j everybody kno dat
There's not even a debate. Only Wilt was ever better than Bird.
I might take mj over bird n kobe
I think Bird is closer to 6'10
I do to
Cartiae MJ said Larry lengend is the best small forward ever better than Lebron 🐐🐐
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We all know Mike is the GOAT, but. search "The Best Larry Bird vs Michael Jordan Story Ever Told"
Jordan is NOT the GOAT imo. That narrative was created by Stern & marketing.
I have a video out on that topic
Gotta feel bad for birds teammates that were forgotten by the guy with sideburns. As a young player I never watched the old NBA, but if it was a physical game, lebron with his size today would still be driving the lane, because of how big he is. But yes, lebrons not taking a final shot if a shooter like birds on the court. Both of them are part of the few players that get recognized as the best players and the best to make others around them better.
he will not be driving the lane with the centers and pfs that played in the game back then that is his size and bigger
You know how big malone,mason kemp,and many other defensive players in birds era?lebum even with the rules today is shy going to the lane,you might see him do that once or twice in a game
If lebum is not afraid of today's physicality, he would have dominated but he is the Self-proclaimed GOAT, actor and teammates blaming star,he will be a crybaby if he has played against the 80's, especially the Pistons
Can't believe steven a picked Tattum Omer Bird. To me this is a joke. Tatum can score the basketball but birds passing and rebounding better than Tatum by far.
bird does everything better den Tatum at such a high level and did it against wayyyy better competition
BIRD. Is a better shooter, lefty and righty, better passer, much better clutch player, makes everyone better, look at his rookie season when he took a Celtics team took a 29 win team to 61. This alone, you could argue, would not only make him Rookie of the year, in which he won, but MVP. Let’s do a quick thought experiment. BIRDS best scoring year was 29.9. As of writing this, Jason Tatum, an incredible offensive force, had his best year in 2022 - 23 with an average of 30 PPG. Now let’s factor in that BIRD is the best passer of all time, at the very least, top 2. Think about this… BIRD decided not to take shots he could have likely made, but decided to make a higher percentage play by making a pass, to involve teammates. Because of this, it affected his scoring average. Ok, now factor in that today they don’t allow hand checking on defense. The refs call ticki tack fouls because the league almost penalizes you for great defense. Add in that now offensive players can Eurostep ( a polite way of traveling) Let’s also add in the FACT the league promotes offense, so their is about 10 more offensive possessions a game. Than you add in that a great shooter, like a Tatum, has the green light to take 7 to 10 more 3’s a game then BIRD did (who also didn’t really practice 3’s, but somehow won 3 contests in a row, something no one in todays game has done). Ok now let’s go back and do the math. A great player like JT is .01 percentage point above BIRDS best year. ( a year where BIRD IS BETTER in every other statistical category plus defense. What this tells me is simple, BIRD transcended the game, and is a far superior player than James. Last FACT. BIRD had a greater desire to win, and was WAY better at 50/50 balls, something advanced metrics and pundits never talk about. BIRD IS THE WORD 😊
bird would definitely have destroyed this league in todays game
Larry Joe didn't flop and rely on refs to give him a leg up. None of the greats did. They won on skill and grit. Bron isn't in the goat conversation.
he never will be
You had me with you after you mentioned Worthy, Pippin, Baylor...
shit is nuts how these mfs really tryna leap frog lebron over them
Bird was Better than Jordan in many of the intangibles as well
neck and neck lol
One plays thur injury even with cheek bone broken , and Lechina has to be carried off with a leg cramp ,, Lechina isn’t even in top 10
im using that lechina loll
Wilt was seven two? 310 lbs who wins the collision
lolllll
LeBron is not even half the player that bird was
your right about that
I’ve long said that the the ONLY thing LeBron has going for him is longevity. That inflates his stats in itself but he also benefits from the amount of 3s that todays players take over what was taken in Larry’s time.
You can either compare primes, or you cap both their careers at the same number of years. Larry comes out ahead.
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I love how little actual analysis these talking heads do. Case example: Smith says there's "no contest" between Bird and LeBron in terms of clutch play. And yet LeBron has the highest elimination game scoring average in NBA history, the highest Game 7 scoring average in NBA history and has more playoff game-winners than anybody in history. That's before you go deeper into the stats and look at advanced/impact numbers where he sits alongside Mike, Kareem and Wilt. Larry was an awesome, awesome player. One of the all-time great instinctive geniuses. There still hasn't been anybody like him and probably never will be.
But it's incredible to me how many people still sell LeBron woefully short. I mean, JAMES WORTHY!?!?! Even as a die-hard Lakers fan, that's straight-up ignorant.
whats ignorant is u really thinkin lebron should be mentioned in the same breath as bird lol
@@cartiaekreacts I would suggest that if you think a player who averaged 18/5/3 in 900 games (Worthy) is somehow superior to one who has averaged 27/8/7 over 1,400 (LeBron) and is still going, you might not know what you're talking about.
OF COURSE LeBron is in the same breath as Larry. He's in the same breath as anybody who's ever picked up a basketball. His resume speaks for itself. I know most of you guys get into your feelings over this stuff, but at least try to be objective.
@@dan32321 lmfaoooooo what skill does lebron have that james worthy doont like mf lebron is not better den bird not better den worth not better den dr j not better den elgin baylor look up your history and the skills of the most talented sfs before tryna come at me with some bs
There was an article about LeBron's clutch shooting, from memory it was 17%, and the article was making fun of him for it.
I don't think LeBron is as bad as many here thinks he is, I just can't stand him as a person, the constant lies really bother me - but on the court he's made history - though Bird is definitely better when the game is on the line.
Different players…I would say Lebron was a 2 guard
he was a sg but he went to the sf
LaBron over Dr. J?
finesse over bron all day
fuck no dr j over lebon
Top 10 DR J
Vs # 16 James
larry bird is a better rebounder and shooter thats literally it lol all of the stats and Avanced analytics back this up. the idea that this is a debate is laughable and shows people just hate lebron.
hate Hebron is funny af bird came in rookie year and took a team that only had 29 wins to 61 his rookie year no parish no mchale and his career stats are obviously better 24.5ppg 10.0rpg 6.6apg like come on now
I hate when skin color is mentioned. Bird is the best skilled player ever in basketball. I wish Bird was a black basketball player because all people would say he was the goat. No disrespect to MJ.
facts it pissed me off when Isiah and Rodman said what they said the mf can hoop period
He didn’t beat Dr j
but he did dough so what u mean
Larry beat everyone. You didn't see that one game where J and Bird got into a fight because Bird was beating him so bad, and he was mocking him, telling him he should retire? In 1980, Bird's rookie year, the Celtics lost to the 76ers in the Eastern conference finals. The next year they beat them, and then won the finals.
@@jimmyboy131 thank u like what is buddy talking bout lol
We all know the Lakers/Celtics rivalry always takes precedent but we must not let the world forget how great those 76ers squads were. You go back and watch those games and it is wonder they did not end in brawl for all. The whole eastern conference was a gauntlet in playoffs from 80-87. You will notice how they all fell off after 87 from age or injuries. ( Celtics,Bucks,Knicks,Pistons and the Hawks). The pistons finally broke through 88-90. Benard King I truly believe may have been the face of the NBA if not for that horrible leg and knee injury in 85. He showed flashes of greatness 6 years later in 91and 2 but the his knee was shot. So many greats in one era ( Bird beat them all) and I do not think we will ever see it again.
@@ButterbeanThe your sayin all facts
labron is trash he can`t post no one up he can`t shoot free throws he travels all the time..there is no comparison
nun at all
Larry Legend is 6-10
i swear i was thinkin this after the video i seen with him and ewing
@Cartiae Ketchup Reacts Yeah bro and Magic is meant to be 6-9 and you can see Larry is taller