When you're out of ammo, you can lay gun on the ground, and the magazine will be swung all the way to China, hitting the leader dead and ending the Communist regime
I bought a Star MB in 1979, my last year in school, and have been using it as my everyday carry since. It is not ideal for the purpose. It is a particularly heavy pistol - considerably heavier than the more common 1911-derived Star B. I've shot many thousands of rounds through it and, apart from those caused by dodgy ammo, never had a stoppage. I live in South Africa and grew up in a mining town. For us the "mine dumps," the huge hills created by sluice dams, was the perfect shooting range. I remember going there accompanied by two friends, one with a Colt .45 ACP customized for what we called combat shooting, the other with a Beretta M92. The Colt and the Beretta each had umpteen stoppages in the swirling dust kicked up by a stiff breeze. The Star never faltered. It ran sweetly the entire day. It is not the perfect gun - it has a really creepy trigger pull that breaks off like a dry bamboo stalk. Shooting it with the shoulder stock is great fun though. The sight picture is compromised due to the rear sight being so close to the eye. There is a lot of daylight either end of the front sight. Still, if you learn how to position it, it is astonishingly accurate. I even did a bit of rabbit hunting with it. The (great) video got one detail wrong: the everyday magazine takes 9 rounds, not 8 and it even has a little indicator tab sticking out of the bottom when fully loaded. I am now retiring the old gun. It is getting to be just too heavy for comfort. I am replacing it with a S&W Model 10-7 .38 Special, but am keeping my eyes open for a Star BM. Now that's a great shooter!
@@adriaanvanwyk662 Better yet, in Spain only the security forces and some people in a specific situation have short firearms. The vast majority of production is for other countries.
You said it. Remember the time they decided a shoestring all by itself was a machinegun? Or the time the rules a Brillo pad was a silencer all by itself? Good times!
completely wrong determinations their definition for a machine gun is any gun that shoots more than one bullet per trigger pull so if a revolver shot two at once thatd be a machine gun in their definition its all lies to get people on their side about banning them cause their audience or people voting for them are people dont know anything about firearms or are scared of them already
Brother, you bet I'm being sarcastic. I wonder sometimes if they act the same way in their personal lives. Like they tell the kid curfew is 11pm, and the kid comes home at 10:55 one night. ATFather: Upon further review of curfew policy, we concluded that our previous finding was in error. Therefore, we have determined that curfew is 9pm. Kid: But I didn't do anything wrong! ATFather: We trust that you have found the foregoing information to be helpful. Kid: FML!
@@gcart7675 don't forget they want us unarmed because we can't over throw the govt with rakes and shovels . I bet as soon as the gov-tards figure out that a crossbow could care less about class 2 body armor they will outlaw them and compound bows. Then we will use popcikle sticks and rocks to kill each other and they will try to outlaw any object that fits in the human hand.
The fireplace collection seems to contain an awful lot of rare semi-automatic pistols. I don't want to miss the last gun in the collection, but at this rate it might be years away!
I have converted $180 9x19mm Star Super B pistols to 9x23mm Winchester. I bored out the recoil spring space and made multi spring assemblies from the Wolff gunsmith spring kit.
I once had the beginnings of a collection of Star's, well 3 pistols, a BK, a BKM and a PD. The PD came missing a front sight insert, so there was a dovetail in the front sight that was empty. I decided to fix that, so I took an old red toothbrush and carved out an insert. I took my time, shaving just a bit at a time when I got close, and when I was done it looked like it came from the factory that way. The PD was a sweet little gun, I really loved it for off duty carry, but eventually my partner (RIP) talked me out of the little guy. Last .45 I picked up was a scaled down M1911A1 that looked a bit like the PD but it is all steel and weighs in a about the same as a full size, unlike the lovely little PD with it's aluminum frame.
I've got a friend who has a late 30's fn hi-power with the stock. It's really cool. It has a leather holster mounted on the right side of the stock with two leather mag pouches for 32 rd. magazines. Left side of the stock toward the butt has a place to attach the stock to your belt or webbing. Pistol has rear tangent sights.
I had a 9mm parabelum model in the 80s. Lovely bit of kit. Big frame but a stable shooter. It was very reliable and I prefured it to Browning hi power we were issued.
While I can appreciate that modern carbine kits for pistols are more ergonomic, effective and allow for mounting appropriate optics they simply don't look anything as good as these do. There really needs to be a halfway space, something with some of the aesthetics of the old fashioned stocks with the functionality of the new ones.
There's just something about stocked handguns that makes them so darn cool. It's a shame that that they're considered SBR's and that most of us can't easily acquire them in the U.S..... Wait, hold on. These are exempt?!
Still, I wish there were an exemption on the 'stocked pistol' in general, allowing for new production. It's not like they are somehow more deadly thanks to the addition of the stock.
He's referring to the fact that it is not inherently more harmful to be shot by a stocked pistol than a regular pistol, and at the ranges you are liable to be shot at by someone with a pistol (i.e. across the room) you're probably going to be hit anyway. The real joke is that SBRs are meant to be prohibited because they're dangerous and concealable, but the bulky stock is far less concealable than any snub revolver or pocket carry automatic pistol
@@TheFanatical1 You didn't answer his question lol. The OP stated a weapon is not more deadly by adding a stock, which is completely false, hence the existence of stocks. Literally no one is under the assumption that adding a stock somehow makes a cartridge more lethal. It 100% makes a weapon more deadly. If you sneak an SBR into, say, a sporting event, you are going to get significantly more kills than if you were to sneak in a revolver. Limiting a shooting scenario to "across the room" is the real joke. Look at any of the modern mass shootings and you'll see the engagement ranges were far greater than a couple meters.
Have you ever come across a Springfield Omega pistol? Interesting gun built to suit German gun laws at the time which stated 1 pistol per person but it came with interchangeable internals that could use 9x19mm, 10mm Auto, .38 Super, .38 Wadcutter or .45ACP. Uses a 1911 frame with a custom long barrel/slide but with linkless internals like a Sig P-series.
It would be interesting to see a field accuracy test comparing the pistol fired with and without the stock. I wonder how much difference it really made.
@@andrehashimoto8056 smg you already said it right there, ever tried lugging around that weight on a pistol frame? It get to the point of being just to unveildy and unpractical, if this was say an mp5 then go ahead it has the frame to support that added weight an M1911 however or its ilk which are 45acp generally (if not nearly always) is a whole nother beast to add something like a stock and nearly 4kg of weighty mag on. You will litterally destroy the magwell with that much weight due to vibration tearing.
@@RichWhiteUM yeah they are also highly worthless good luck using them practically. Weighs a bunch and magwell between a glock and m1911 are worlds apart. I can add that my service handgun was the glock and yes it doesnt need 4kg plus worth of added weight underneat. And drum mag is pointless to put on any pistol that doesnt support stocks natively suchbas the glock, in this case, (i know there exists stocks but they are moutnted in the same space as the redicolouse mag is adding even more weight)
@@Zretgul_timerunner Never said they were practical, just that they exist. If these Stars were made today, I'd be willing to bet someone would make drums for them.
These kind of extended magazines were quite popular with soldiers during the Civil War, although they were used more as status simbols than anything else. A nationalist officer recalled emptying a full mag on some fleeing republicans, but not hitting a single man because of the distance. The cult status they achieved probably accounts to the late production of these format of pistol
@@AKS-74U think it was season 4, Ada comes over to his house unannounced shortly after he gets the Christmas card from luca and he pulls it right out the back of the stock
@@horrorclose9462 yup... it's stupid how easy it is to break the law.. imo, we should repeal the 1986 portion of the NFA.. hobbyist are going to own new form 1 machine guns, just like short barreld rifles, and we're some of the most law abiding citizens there are.. fuckin stupid
An excellent and informative video (as always). Does adding a stock to a pistol increase accuracy? If so, by how much, and is the improvement worth the trouble of carrying the bulky stock/holster?
They are to an extent worth it, though they tend to be somewhat pointless for more experienced individuals, and tend to be a somewhat pointless when compared to a submachine gun or a short barreled rifle.
I came across the stock for the 1911. About to get it but tend to not get it. I was planning to put it on the Colt commando and put the 5" barrel for the extended
Love stars just assembled a bm works just need to bevel the hammer to put it on safe with a chambered round without thumbing back, would love one of these or a model s
The stock looks similar to that of a Hi Power's. I wonder why the stocked Star weren't as popular as the Inglis, not that a Stocked Hi Power was ever that popular to begin with.
We "need" a handgun with a built-in holster, but you keep it in the holster when you fire it, and it's threaded to the barrel to give it a longer barrel
Nice!, i didn't knew about those ones; didn't seen 'em on the street, on the Marine Infantry or in the Guardia Civíl hands. I like the Star B, very comfortable on the hand and easy to shoot as a 9 Para, only downsides the mag capacity and it's sights; sturdy and realiable guns.
These things are genuinely awesome. Thanks for the video. One question: The MB looks like it's a Model B just with a milled out slot for the stock. Does that mean that those extended magazines were also designed around the extended length caused by the Model B magazines being 9mm largo sized or did they update the magazine for 9x19 like they did with the Model BM?
Were these offered to military buyers as PDWs? The 32 round mag capacity is interesting, now you might say "range toy" but the '60s and '70s were a different time. Fascinating guns
Well, that sure looked familiar, just from the thumbnail. (Just for your viewers: The Inglis High Power is exempt from the NFA stamp as a "Short Barreled Rifle." As bass ackwards as that is.)
Ian, would love to see you shoot this carbine/pistol/sbr with the wobbly stock to get your impression. I encountered some similar guns once upon a time in a s#!tty little country and they were not very reliable. They were, however, select fire. I seem to remember they were Egyptian? Maybe? 9mm (9x19) as well.
Nope, they were Spanish. I talked to a friend that remembers them too. They had a selector on the right, rear of the slide. They looked very much like these Star pistol/carbines in the video.
came out as the last original pistol /carbine was being phased out. the east european stechkin which i think had the largest pre glock magazine.around the same time though again not a sucess was the butt attachment for the h and k vp70 another large magazined self loader! i believe the stock had a fire selector switch for three round bursts! neither offered much advantage over the standard weapon or a smg or carbine the fate of most shoulder stocked pistols at the end of ww1.
When you're out of ammo you can lay your magazine on the ground and presto, you have a makeshift bridge.
That really would have come in handy against the black knight. Don't need to cross there.
Mmm more than a bridge I was thinking you could just hit someone in the head with it and then run
When you're out of ammo, you can lay gun on the ground, and the magazine will be swung all the way to China, hitting the leader dead and ending the Communist regime
Better leave the ammo in for structural integrity
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Those 32-rounders could almost double as monopods.
Or a last ditch baton.
Thanks for your detailed descriptions and to bring Spanish weapons to your channel
@@julioverdin7775 wrong reply?
4:28 ...I think you finally found a haunted gun.
I bought a Star MB in 1979, my last year in school, and have been using it as my everyday carry since. It is not ideal for the purpose. It is a particularly heavy pistol - considerably heavier than the more common 1911-derived Star B.
I've shot many thousands of rounds through it and, apart from those caused by dodgy ammo, never had a stoppage.
I live in South Africa and grew up in a mining town. For us the "mine dumps," the huge hills created by sluice dams, was the perfect shooting range. I remember going there accompanied by two friends, one with a Colt .45 ACP customized for what we called combat shooting, the other with a Beretta M92. The Colt and the Beretta each had umpteen stoppages in the swirling dust kicked up by a stiff breeze. The Star never faltered. It ran sweetly the entire day.
It is not the perfect gun - it has a really creepy trigger pull that breaks off like a dry bamboo stalk.
Shooting it with the shoulder stock is great fun though. The sight picture is compromised due to the rear sight being so close to the eye. There is a lot of daylight either end of the front sight. Still, if you learn how to position it, it is astonishingly accurate. I even did a bit of rabbit hunting with it.
The (great) video got one detail wrong: the everyday magazine takes 9 rounds, not 8 and it even has a little indicator tab sticking out of the bottom when fully loaded.
I am now retiring the old gun. It is getting to be just too heavy for comfort. I am replacing it with a S&W Model 10-7 .38 Special, but am keeping my eyes open for a Star BM. Now that's a great shooter!
Cargadores
E X T R A L A R G O S
Asi se llaman los ‘magazines’ en español?
@Robertino Tanos no, paleto
USA: Seven rounds are enough
Spain: E L O N G A T E
Which is interesting because the stereotype is that americans tend to want an over abundance of ammo to shoot.
@@adriaanvanwyk662 Better yet, in Spain only the security forces and some people in a specific situation have short firearms. The vast majority of production is for other countries.
E X P A N D M A G
add sticks to things is our thing
this is just another chupa chups aplication
I think you mean El Ongate
hard to believe that those 30+ round magazines could be reliable. The spring travel is enormous.
Alex N, The 33 round Glocks work great and using an Uplula makes loading easy.
Paul Shayter but the Glock mag is a double stack mag that is half the length.
@@zdub8438 I have loaded 32 rounds in my Star MB's magazine - it was definitely a squeeze, but the pistol shot all 32 without a hitch.
When you run out of ammo you can beat your assailant to death with the magazine.
Or sharpen it, tape the other end, and you've got a makeshift short sword
the ATF makes some odd ball determinations
You said it. Remember the time they decided a shoestring all by itself was a machinegun? Or the time the rules a Brillo pad was a silencer all by itself?
Good times!
completely wrong determinations their definition for a machine gun is any gun that shoots more than one bullet per trigger pull so if a revolver shot two at once thatd be a machine gun in their definition its all lies to get people on their side about banning them cause their audience or people voting for them are people dont know anything about firearms or are scared of them already
Jack Stecker bad times* i know youre probly being sarcastic but some people really are stupid enough to not know tou are
Brother, you bet I'm being sarcastic.
I wonder sometimes if they act the same way in their personal lives. Like they tell the kid curfew is 11pm, and the kid comes home at 10:55 one night.
ATFather: Upon further review of curfew policy, we concluded that our previous finding was in error. Therefore, we have determined that curfew is 9pm.
Kid: But I didn't do anything wrong!
ATFather: We trust that you have found the foregoing information to be helpful.
Kid: FML!
@@gcart7675 don't forget they want us unarmed because we can't over throw the govt with rakes and shovels . I bet as soon as the gov-tards figure out that a crossbow could care less about class 2 body armor they will outlaw them and compound bows. Then we will use popcikle sticks and rocks to kill each other and they will try to outlaw any object that fits in the human hand.
It looks good for Personal Defense Weapon, in my opinion.
PDWs before they were cool.
Next we need a 2 Gun competition comparing a P90 against a Star MMS with stock.
@@AM-hf9kk To make it fair, modify the Star gun to fire full auto and if possible, a fire selector
@@ArcturusOTE I would love to see that. I've seen 1911 format pistols shoot full auto so it's not too crazy to suggest
@@ArcturusOTE Simpler to just use the civilian PS90 (semi-auto) limited to 32 rounds in the mag.
@@ArcturusOTE the star model md is fullauto with a selector.
The fireplace collection seems to contain an awful lot of rare semi-automatic pistols. I don't want to miss the last gun in the collection, but at this rate it might be years away!
this looks like coming straigh outa an old Resident Evil game xD
Tyrant: "Stars..."
The red 9 from resident evil 4 lol
Stars
I do like the look of a stocked pistol.
I have converted $180 9x19mm Star Super B pistols to 9x23mm Winchester. I bored out the recoil spring space and made multi spring assemblies from the Wolff gunsmith spring kit.
Nickel-plated Star Model B was an original "Mr 9mm" as it was referred to by Samuel L. Jackson in Pulp Fiction.
I once had the beginnings of a collection of Star's, well 3 pistols, a BK, a BKM and a PD. The PD came missing a front sight insert, so there was a dovetail in the front sight that was empty. I decided to fix that, so I took an old red toothbrush and carved out an insert. I took my time, shaving just a bit at a time when I got close, and when I was done it looked like it came from the factory that way. The PD was a sweet little gun, I really loved it for off duty carry, but eventually my partner (RIP) talked me out of the little guy. Last .45 I picked up was a scaled down M1911A1 that looked a bit like the PD but it is all steel and weighs in a about the same as a full size, unlike the lovely little PD with it's aluminum frame.
With the 32-round magazine, it looks like someone tried to make a T-square out of a gun.
I've got a friend who has a late 30's fn hi-power with the stock. It's really cool. It has a leather holster mounted on the right side of the stock with two leather mag pouches for 32 rd. magazines. Left side of the stock toward the butt has a place to attach the stock to your belt or webbing. Pistol has rear tangent sights.
I had a 9mm parabelum model in the 80s. Lovely bit of kit. Big frame but a stable shooter. It was very reliable and I prefured it to Browning hi power we were issued.
I like how it fits into the stock. I just think that is a cool feature.
Always a treat with the fireplace collector
Great video. Love the Star stocked pistols.
Iver Johnson still sells a 1911 Carbine. 16 inch BBL I believe.
I WANT A CARBINE
WITH A SHORT BARREL
AND A LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG
MAGAZINE
*[trumpet solo]*
More Spanish pistols besides the Asta X00 series. One of my favorites and really overlooked is the Star FireStar Plus.
The Star Ultrastar is still one of my favorites. Never could figure out why Star doesn't get much love.
I had the Star Mod B for many years, reliable and accurate!!
I got a BM and Super B, love both of them.
It would be great to see these guns in the range
While I can appreciate that modern carbine kits for pistols are more ergonomic, effective and allow for mounting appropriate optics they simply don't look anything as good as these do. There really needs to be a halfway space, something with some of the aesthetics of the old fashioned stocks with the functionality of the new ones.
i guess this is the headlined 300 round magazine
*Rapid fire assault magazine
There's just something about stocked handguns that makes them so darn cool. It's a shame that that they're considered SBR's and that most of us can't easily acquire them in the U.S..... Wait, hold on. These are exempt?!
Still, I wish there were an exemption on the 'stocked pistol' in general, allowing for new production. It's not like they are somehow more deadly thanks to the addition of the stock.
@@USSEnterpriseA1701 How is a more effective firearm not "more deadly"?
He's referring to the fact that it is not inherently more harmful to be shot by a stocked pistol than a regular pistol, and at the ranges you are liable to be shot at by someone with a pistol (i.e. across the room) you're probably going to be hit anyway. The real joke is that SBRs are meant to be prohibited because they're dangerous and concealable, but the bulky stock is far less concealable than any snub revolver or pocket carry automatic pistol
@@TheFanatical1 Precisely. Couldn't have said it better myself.
@@TheFanatical1 You didn't answer his question lol. The OP stated a weapon is not more deadly by adding a stock, which is completely false, hence the existence of stocks. Literally no one is under the assumption that adding a stock somehow makes a cartridge more lethal. It 100% makes a weapon more deadly. If you sneak an SBR into, say, a sporting event, you are going to get significantly more kills than if you were to sneak in a revolver. Limiting a shooting scenario to "across the room" is the real joke. Look at any of the modern mass shootings and you'll see the engagement ranges were far greater than a couple meters.
As impractical as they probably are, i do like the look of a stocked pistol
"S.T.A.R.S"
I'm glad they stamped the magazine size on there, I can see how it would be easy to confuse them
I’m curious about the reliability of the 32 round magazine. That’s a long spring to rely on, but the Spanish are noted for their steel quality.
I love the Star Super B Pistols as well.
Have you ever come across a Springfield Omega pistol? Interesting gun built to suit German gun laws at the time which stated 1 pistol per person but it came with interchangeable internals that could use 9x19mm, 10mm Auto, .38 Super, .38 Wadcutter or .45ACP. Uses a 1911 frame with a custom long barrel/slide but with linkless internals like a Sig P-series.
yes I would buy one..getting those machines turning while they can
It would be interesting to see a field accuracy test comparing the pistol fired with and without the stock. I wonder how much difference it really made.
Did Star ever try to develop a drum or snail mag for these guns at some point?
No due to how the magazine is feed to the gun a drum mag whould be way to big to be practical.
@@andrehashimoto8056 smg you already said it right there, ever tried lugging around that weight on a pistol frame? It get to the point of being just to unveildy and unpractical, if this was say an mp5 then go ahead it has the frame to support that added weight an M1911 however or its ilk which are 45acp generally (if not nearly always) is a whole nother beast to add something like a stock and nearly 4kg of weighty mag on. You will litterally destroy the magwell with that much weight due to vibration tearing.
@@Zretgul_timerunner And yet they have drum mags for Glocks...
@@RichWhiteUM yeah they are also highly worthless good luck using them practically. Weighs a bunch and magwell between a glock and m1911 are worlds apart.
I can add that my service handgun was the glock and yes it doesnt need 4kg plus worth of added weight underneat. And drum mag is pointless to put on any pistol that doesnt support stocks natively suchbas the glock, in this case, (i know there exists stocks but they are moutnted in the same space as the redicolouse mag is adding even more weight)
@@Zretgul_timerunner Never said they were practical, just that they exist. If these Stars were made today, I'd be willing to bet someone would make drums for them.
These kind of extended magazines were quite popular with soldiers during the Civil War, although they were used more as status simbols than anything else. A nationalist officer recalled emptying a full mag on some fleeing republicans, but not hitting a single man because of the distance. The cult status they achieved probably accounts to the late production of these format of pistol
On the back where the slide and frame come together you can see the good machining , like the Colt ,some New Remington 1911s have a big Gap
Reminds me of that dude who electric taped a heck ton of glock magazines
Glock brand Glock Clipazine
Mattv2099. How I miss him...
Definitely use a mag as melee weapon when I'm out lol.
America: (looks at wooden stock) tHiS iS a RifLe
5-inch barrel and 9mm Parabelum: Are we a joke to you?
idiot liberals and snowflakes look at a stock on anything:this is a rifle*
They use a Star as a 1911 in one of my favorite movies The Sand Pebbles. I guess the Colt wouldn't run too well with blanks.
In pulp fiction as well
Nice little bit of history there.
Whoever owns this fire place has a hell of a firearms collection.
Yet again demonstrating the superiority of the Model M.
Not only stocked pistols, but Spanish ones at that. Nice. When I'm 21 I think I'll get a Star, I like Spanish guns.
Love these videos with a gun and a reference book for research.
I love my star bm! They make great guns!
My father had the BM, smaller than the B !
My father had a BM, smaller than the B !!
Although the collector community may hate me for this, I fully restored it with cerakote!
With those extended mags & shoulder stocks they just beg for a selective fire switch like some of the original broomhandle Mausers had.
Reminds me of the pistols attachment for Leon in resident evil 2
Why wrong? Thanks again Ian for your job...sure requires lot of work behind. All my support to continue
Thomas shelby had one of these in the show, I've been looking for Ian's review of this gun ever since
He's had stocked C96 pistols. Unless in the newest season he has a stocked 1911
@@AKS-74U think it was season 4, Ada comes over to his house unannounced shortly after he gets the Christmas card from luca and he pulls it right out the back of the stock
Iver Johnson still makes a stocked 1911. 16" barrel but easy enough to swap out for the standard 5"
And easy enough for the atf to take you to prison for 10 years lol
@@stanleykendziorski7964 I know, right? Haha. But seriously, no one should do what I suggested without first getting their stamps from the ATF
@@horrorclose9462 yup... it's stupid how easy it is to break the law.. imo, we should repeal the 1986 portion of the NFA.. hobbyist are going to own new form 1 machine guns, just like short barreld rifles, and we're some of the most law abiding citizens there are.. fuckin stupid
i clicked the video, tabbed away to do something, and came back to ian holding a couple of ridiculously extended pistol mags
Thank you , Ian .
An excellent and informative video (as always).
Does adding a stock to a pistol increase accuracy? If so, by how much, and is the improvement worth the trouble of carrying the bulky stock/holster?
They are to an extent worth it, though they tend to be somewhat pointless for more experienced individuals, and tend to be a somewhat pointless when compared to a submachine gun or a short barreled rifle.
I came across the stock for the 1911. About to get it but tend to not get it. I was planning to put it on the Colt commando and put the 5" barrel for the extended
The 1911 has a capacity problem? What capacity problem?
Very Cool firearms Ian.
that's one helluva clipazine!
Imagine mag like that in a 80's action movie.
30min. none stop shooting.
Looks way better than the C96.
That's no magazine, its more like a tome 😁
So did the Gy-normous [1:36] 32-round magazine have a deep slot in the stock, too?
I guess Star was the first company to make a P-Mag.
Love stars just assembled a bm works just need to bevel the hammer to put it on safe with a chambered round without thumbing back, would love one of these or a model s
I want a stock and 2km tangent sight on a Baby Browning
Oh man! Another gun to add to my wish list...
Cool examples Ian keep up the good work
It's like one of those old Hyper reload animations where the mag slides out for like 20 seconds.
I'm going to predict that these will get sold with a surprisingly high price at the auction.
So Star introduced the 30+ round Fun Stick. 😁😁😁
Good story and history, Thanks.
The stock looks similar to that of a Hi Power's. I wonder why the stocked Star weren't as popular as the Inglis, not that a Stocked Hi Power was ever that popular to begin with.
We "need" a handgun with a built-in holster, but you keep it in the holster when you fire it, and it's threaded to the barrel to give it a longer barrel
Nice!, i didn't knew about those ones; didn't seen 'em on the street, on the Marine Infantry or in the Guardia Civíl hands. I like the Star B, very comfortable on the hand and easy to shoot as a 9 Para, only downsides the mag capacity and it's sights; sturdy and realiable guns.
clearly they had a solution to the mag capacity issue
These things are genuinely awesome. Thanks for the video. One question: The MB looks like it's a Model B just with a milled out slot for the stock. Does that mean that those extended magazines were also designed around the extended length caused by the Model B magazines being 9mm largo sized or did they update the magazine for 9x19 like they did with the Model BM?
I'd love a 30 round mag for my BM haha
beautiful
They just look so neat. I wosh there was more
You know there are artists who look at that plain, unfinished stock as a blank canvas just begging for adornment.
I want a stocked pistol so bad. Will probably settle for a long slide Glock 10mm with a flux brace.
GLOCK: hey guys check our stendos!
BASQUES: hold my patxaran.
What can I say, just: "Spain is different!"
Yeah. They are highly illegal in Spain itself.
Its not right unless it has a thompson foregrip, 32acp and fully auto.. just ask Lester Gillis
I was of the understanding that was a .38 super.
8:14 wow, that's practical
I've seen that magazine before in a box of random junk mags at dealer decades ago. Where there any other big pistol magazines that look like that?
Were these offered to military buyers as PDWs? The 32 round mag capacity is interesting, now you might say "range toy" but the '60s and '70s were a different time. Fascinating guns
Im realizing why you haven't disassembled these and I'm hurt
Well, that sure looked familiar, just from the thumbnail. (Just for your viewers: The Inglis High Power is exempt from the NFA stamp as a "Short Barreled Rifle." As bass ackwards as that is.)
Ian, would love to see you shoot this carbine/pistol/sbr with the wobbly stock to get your impression. I encountered some similar guns once upon a time in a s#!tty little country and they were not very reliable. They were, however, select fire. I seem to remember they were Egyptian? Maybe? 9mm (9x19) as well.
Nope, they were Spanish. I talked to a friend that remembers them too. They had a selector on the right, rear of the slide. They looked very much like these Star pistol/carbines in the video.
came out as the last original pistol /carbine was being phased out. the east european stechkin which i think had the largest pre glock magazine.around the same time though again not a sucess was the butt attachment for the h and k vp70 another large magazined self loader! i believe the stock had a fire selector switch for three round bursts! neither offered much advantage over the standard weapon or a smg or carbine the fate of most shoulder stocked pistols at the end of ww1.
How the hell did I miss this video. One of the coolest yet. This Is what we needed in WW1 in 9mm
LUV STOCKS ON PISTOLS
Had an Englis w/ 20 rds sticks, back in 80's. Sold it like a dumb ass...never found another I could afford.
I need the 32 round mag for my star model P.
those magazines are the ones they use in movies.