Pistola PRESSIN: Llama's Sneaky Self-Defense Weapon
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- Опубліковано 17 лис 2024
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Developed in 1978 and produced by Llama until 1995, the Pressin was a two-shot derringer made to be disguised as a pair of glasses. It was intended for use by politicians, military officers, and other potential victims of kidnapping by groups like the ETA. It held two rounds of a special 7.65mm E cartridge, which was .32 ACP with a case cut down to 15mm. A total of about 900 were made, most of which were deactivated and sold on the Spanish civilian market after Llama's bankruptcy.
When you’re trying to shoot your kidnapper and you accidentally just crush your glasses...
😂😂😂💀💀
Good one. ^^
Saber-Toothed Tiger 🤣 here’s your like 👍🏽 and your beer 🍺 my Lord 🤣
@@Hoot 😂😂😂👌😂👌😂🅱️😂👌😂👌😂😔👌😔👋😂👋😂✋😔😂😂👋😂😆😂😔👌
Saber-Toothed Tiger you would want to hope the gun was the right way round in the case 😂
“Yo why this fool pullin out a stapler?!”
😂
Lol had me busting a gut 😂
Where do you get 0.32 cal. staples?
Miguel Angel Vizuet Mata hit the EZ button
Office prank
"The lever is now all the way depressed"
Me too Ian, me too..
@ Plauge Knight66 ,tell me this old **** is bummed . Dont give any of 'em the satisifaction of thinking yore not resilient !
@@randybeeman7823 what?
@@randybeeman7823 bewildering
That Randy guys response is AMAZING!!!!!
@@randybeeman7823 too much alcohol?
This is the Nintendo Execution System
What NES really stood for all along.
For when that damn dog in Duck Hunt laughed at you For the last time.
Nintendo Elimination System
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This looks like something I would use to beat someone with in 2011
Are we absolutely certain this wasn't designed and manufactured by Nintendo?
Woo watch out buddy. You wouldn't want to piss the actual designer and end up getting Batista bombed by a professionnal Wrestler that was part of the army too.
A Nintendo "gunboy micro" hahaha
Nah sex hotels are more of their thing
That dog in Duck Hunt has finally met its maker
bang bang wahoo
"Why are you pulling out a stapler from a glasses case?"
"I think you have more PRESSIN issues right now!"
[BANG!]
Are you my Dad?
@@notgray88 depends did he just shoot a 32 caliber round into you? Then yes. He’s your dad
Austin powers missed a good writer.
[groan!]
@@notgray88 no but I just saw your dad buying smokes.
Finally, a remote for people!
Lol, thats one hell of a mute button
It’s broken only off works, I can’t turn people back on :(
Point it at someone to put them. Press the button to turn him "off."
Love it 😁 ✌️
@@alexmyers3000 that's what I was gonna say
10 years later they made an 8 shot version disguised as a gameboy.
They used the original grey Gameboy and it shot 410 shells
Power switch is the trigger
@@bobby_greene ...and don't forget to blow into the slot before reloading!
What about the knew xbox
@@Jester4460 in the xbox one S there's about 5,703 holes, so it would probably be very lethal, the disc eject button would eject the mag, and the power button would shoot it
This is what Velma was actually looking for every time she "lost" her glasses
Velma: "Call an ambulance!
But not for me"
Velma: Stay strapped or get clapped
@@Sion_Revan genius
Those are some bad a** glasses!
Gotta get them ghost😂
00:10 I make that mistake all the time. It's embarrassing going throughout my day all day then realizing I've have an m1 garand taped to my face instead of glasses.
Indeed. I make that mistake with my .45 USP too. I was sure I got a fork for my cake but I guess not...
I hate when i put on my rpg 7 instead of a hat
God fucking dammit I have that problem too!! I would be walking around in public all day and then realise I accidentally had taped my desert eagle 50 AE to my face ALL DAY
i once eat a whole bowl of of icecream with a SMLE and then it made complete sense why my brother was at the range holding a spoon and shouting BANG!
Man I always mistake 9mm for my pills
“Do be careful 007, these sunglasses are bad for your health.” - Q
Boris Müller And they blow your brains out so remember where you put it, especially since the case looks like a glasses holster
UV-protected of course.
It reminds me of the John Wayne comment from one of his western movies, when he's being robbed by bandits. His character is carrying around a derringer disguised in a wallet, much like this nifty little device.
Wayne is about to hand the bandit his wallet, and casually remarks, "Oh, there's a little something extra in there for you..."
Boom. Boom.
I wish I could remember the name of that movie.
@@Nderak ha someone else has read the children's 007 knockoff.🔫=📱💣=📷🔪=💳
@@Nderak I am about to reread them too, its been a while but I've heard he made a new sequel.
"Ah, the old pistol in the glasses case trick." -Maxwell Smart
And assuming the user could actually hit anything with one. “Missed it by that much, chief.” 😋
I love Get Smart
Second time I fell for that this week!
Agent 99 says we'll throw rocks. Pretty sure Barbara Feldon disapproves of the shoe gun.
Tactical stapler
For the hardcore file clerk.
Needs an underslung hole punch to be properly tacticool. Although I suppose a. 32 is pretty good at making holes.
Jonah T. With high velocity brass staples
I believe you have my tactical stapler...
EMcL88 : I guess technically it is the tacticool hole punch. Also with these you really have to be careful of the "they took my stapler" guy at the office.
This the kinda gun you'd bring into the Gamora Casino in New Vegas.
When you have 1 sneak
Noob
Ah a man of culture i see.
Why just this? An antimaterial rifle with explosive rounds does fine.
If you want the low key approach RatSlayer does the trick.
@@acpmasterrace3800 Just take the joke?
“Quick, call an ambulance!!! But not for me!” *crushes glasses*
I hate when I mistake my gun for my glasses.
Or the other way round.
This acting reminded me of some sharks in a bathtub
Why does it say your comment was made 14 hours ago?
I hate it when I mistake my glasses for my gun.
"You wouldn't shoot a guy with glasses, would you?"
*BANG*
"Well played."
Am i the only one who thought this was a folding gun?
firefist211 from the thumbnail, yes. You are not alone.
Nope I was expecting the trigger part to fold back exposing a trigger.
I was kinda hoping it was tbh
I saw the thumbnail and thought, it looks like a hammer stapler. They don't fold btw.
I thought it would be Swiss knife.
This is a last ditch contact gun, it works like syringe (the bullet being the needle). You use this by pressing it (got it?) against your kidnapper body, so you can't miss, than fire. The bullet will make a small hole, but the gasses would blow a huge fireball inside of him (like inflating a balloon). It does much more damage than you imagine by its caliber!
That being said I'd really like to see somebody use clear ballistic jelly to show contact shots of various calibers... I think it's time to contact demolition ranch
Sounds more like an assassination gun than a self defense tool though.
That sounds absolutely brutal
@@Skandalos
Assassination is the murder of a prominent figure, more often than not, a political one.
You could use it to assassinate someone, but that's probably one of the reasons the government and manufacturer kept quiet about them.
So in theory that would be the most effective way to use a NAA mini revolver?
"You want to kidnap me? Sure, wait, just let me get my glasses so i can see you better"
Selmokk pull it out your pocket
😅😅😅 **Kevin Hart has joined the Auction**
You want me to read The Ransom letter into the camera? Alright let me switch to my reading glasses
See you bleed better?
@@socialex "Oh, you want to kidnap me? Let me put my glasses on one last time"
"Hold on, let me get my glasses. I can't see."
*BANG BANG*
"Now I can't hear either."
Hahahhahaa
AND I'm probably bleeding and in pain once the shock wears off :D
it's probably intended to be carried in the hand when you feel threatened
A gun for a glasses case,
An SMG for a brief case,
and a cigarette... that’s a gun.
We might as well assume that everything in Ian’s house is a gun
RWBY: it’s also a gun
Then there's the pen gun, and - in the case of RWBY - a thermos gun.
@@UXB1000 Technically, that one was a flamethrower...
@@NXTangl True, true...
But Zwei was fired once from the thermos, so... maybe it counts?
Or did my memory deceive me?
And of course his revolver wedding ring
"Oh, nice stapler, you even have a luxurious leather case to go with it!"
It aint a stapler, its a ness
All I see is a double barrel shotgun
@@michaelfinlay1412 when Nintendo makes a stapler that's a shotgun you get a pistol
A PISTOL
@@Gunneramma stapler... shotgun... I immediately thought of the rescue ranger from tf2
@@michaelfinlay1412 lol
Needs an integrated laserpointer, first for aiming and then to irritate the kidnappers after the two shots
karlsteiner with todays technology easily done. 1978 technology............
Or for playing with street cats on your walks.
The first laser sight was actually released in 1979 - and it was larger than this concealed gun.
great idea, easy for aiming
MarcinP2 that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen
As a bonus, your kidnapper could shoot himself accidentally with a strange stapler if he got his hands on it.
I like the fact that since it's concealed like that in a glass case you can hold it in your hand without it looking too suspicious in case you feel threatened and you don't need to get it out of the case to use it. Concealed weapons are neat but a lot of designs I've seen are like "Open this, snap that into place, there now you have a functional gun" because when you're in a dangerous situation would you really have the time to make the gun functional? You already lose time unholstering and cocking a regular firearm, so a lot of those stealthy defense gun seems kind of impractical. But with this design you don't even need to take the gun out of the case, you can undo the safety through it and you can shot through it.
Obviously, it's not perfect, but the thing is that if it's not a well know weapon your opponent may not know how many shots you have with it and it could get them to back down. Also, the sounds of gunshots could alert people.
Not sure if I would carry that, I'm not actually experienced with firearms, I just think the mechanisms and designs of guns are neat and this is a neat gun.
Yeah, but where is the bayonet lug?
:-D
It folds up under the port for the Glock mag
*banzai intensifies*
Is there a belt-fed conversion?
More like how do you get a Pressin lug on your bayonet.
I love how the case has two holes in it like the bullets aren’t gonna completely bust it open
It's just an intuitive way to remember which way to put it in so you don't shoot yourself.
It's a weak spot in the leather to make sure it doesn't start tearing at an accidental weak spot off center & mess up the shot, also it helps ensure you always orient it the same way. As long as you leave the safety on, at least you can't accidentally fire it pointed at yourself by accident, but you might, "Oh wait a sec..." instead of boom, at which point they'll smack it out of your hand.
Gun Jesus blesses us with a miracle!
He turned glasses into a gun!
John Marston But he’s white.
@@dylanfrowen8580 That makes no sense
John Marston There’s... no joke there. Most gun owners are white.
@@dylanfrowen8580 ?
@@dylanfrowen8580 what?
"...Ian, why are there bullet holes in my LMG manuals?"
The company's name is Llama which means "flame" (in this case). And in Spanish it is pronounced "iama" in European accent or "shama" in southern america (Argentina and Uruguay).
Llama is also the Spanish word for (wait for it) "llama" 🦙, and also a conjugation of the verb "call".
No one asked
Thank you for your insight! Now I know at least something about Spanish languages family. To say, now I know Spanish 100% more about :-)
@@myes344 and yet, you’re the only one complaining
Well, I learned two things from this video.
"these aren't glasses at all. It's a gun"- gun Jesus
This is the best line to ever come out of this channel.
Same energy as "Lady, this isn't a beach, this is a bathtub."
What about the fitz special video opening line ?
"it's uncomfortable and unpleasant" kind of like a kidnapping?
These are politicians.
They're rich people who have never experienced displeasure in their lives.
Not Pulverman Here wasn't only kidnapping.
These should have been marketed to taxi drivers.
Source: was a taxi driver
You talkin' to me?
@@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers I knew one from Barcelona Spain without Weapons Licence, knew as Antoniete dead in 2004. Worked as Taxidriver since 1963-2001 RIP and had 0ne Llama for self defence
I feel like a taxi driver would want their gun to be prominent.
No thank you ive been assaulted by a few taxi drivers before so i say its best they keep a real firearm in the glovebox like youre supposed to
@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine I usually held a 38 snub in a shoulder holster under my right arm. I didn't even need to draw it to fire into the back seat, just grab the grip, tilt and fire through your own clothing and the seat into the perp.
I've gone to several military museums in Spain and never knew so much about spanish weapons until I started watching this channel. Amazing! Thumbs up!!
Thanks!
Qué alegría! Soy de España y en la fábrica de armamento donde trabajaba veia como montaban la pistola de tu vídeo
Interesante. Un par de preguntas: ¿Es verdad que sólo produjeron unas 900? Y ¿Quién proporcionaba la munición para el arma?
Pressing es por presilla?😁
"So funny! I'm spanish and (?) I've worked in the *gun factory where this *weapon (shown in your video) was assembled " (i guess)
@@FullMetalBaldo guns factory.... Guns! Not arms.... It's not a protesis factory.
@@SirPano85 "Brothers in arms" it´s the same as weapon or gun.
Looks like a stapler. Should paint it red and write "Swingline" down the top. Should put a stop to the people trying to move ur office down to the basement.
But what do you do when Jim puts it into Jell-o
"ummm yea so I'm gonna nee-"
*_PRESSIN' that LIKE button._*
It is a gun to be used in a PRESSIN' situation.
Pseudocatz you use it by PRESSIN the lever.
This gun is a great for imPRESSIN' your girlfriend.
Pseudocatz if she lives, I'll be pressin in her later.
Impressin' comments...
Wait a minute... those aren't my glasses, that's an MG42!
God Hand a very fast pea
More like, where's my telescope?
Don't you mean your crutch?
I love covert weapons, and being able to learn about unknown kinds, like this, via this channel is great!
When I was young my Great Aunt and Uncle owned a Pawn shop. She had a firearm that was in the shape of a mens single fold wallet. There was a hole in the center that made it so you could fire it without opening the wallet. I guess if your being robbed you reach to grab you wallet and crack a shot to the dudes dome. My favorite though was the Magpul that is basically a folding glock.
The gun is cantered upwards. When presenting the fake wallet at chest level the barrels are pointed towards the neck/face of perp.
The blocky top looks very Glockish
Thumb grip on the rear makes me think 1911, but from the top down it very much looks like a glock
Sounds like part of a rap,
blocky top is glockish
@@freetouchphoto lol
"Oh...right, these aren't glasses at all. It's a gun."
Typical day in the US.
Rather a typical day in 70s-90s spain.
It's a gun from spain
B..But it’s a Spanish weapon
You have no idea how much I wish that were true.
@b b As for the actual gun, it's also pen
If you're being held by a single armed guard, this would work well. It's also an exceptional "Liberator" pistol: use it to off someone and take their weapons. The advantage of the disguised firearm is twofold: first, it's unlikely to be identified if seen. This means it will go unnoticed among your belongings and in haste kidnappers will likely not percieve any danger from it. The second benefit of the disguise is that you can get the drop on someone even if they're looking at you. Pull out a conventional pistol and you will immediately be percieved as a threat. Pull out an eyeglass case and you will not. Popping off the safety probably won't raise an eyebrow either, since it has snap closures. Then within a second, raise and fire one or two shots into the brain. No derringer is the ideal weapon to fight a team of unexpected armed kidnappers, and nothing concealed in a pocket will be a force advantage. But this can provide means for escape. Used against an unaware guard, it's highly effective. With the element of surprise, it could even overpower two men. The first shot in one's head, then a second shot in the other. The second may not be a head shot, but if you can land a shot on him then you can fight hand-to-hand and you have the advantage of having already put a bullet in him and already taken his comrade out of the fight. If I was a VIP in danger of kidnapping I'd want one of these as an escape tool. No offense to the Secret Service, but if I was President Reagan I would have practiced using it and carried it, or at least had a close assistant carry it, on some foreign trips. It doesn't hurt to have one last ace up your sleeve, though of course if it's ever used the situation would be FUBAR. It's a measure of last resort. But as such it would probably be unexpected, which is why it could work.
I suspect the strength of this weapon would be disbelief, surprise and confusion.
A .32 to the chest in any area will fucking hurt.
LazyLife IFreak I agree. A .32 ACP is no manstopper. That's true of handgun rounds in general and .32 ACP is a particularly weak handgun round. Unless it's a contact shot to an immediately incapacitating essential part of the body, that's the most likely immediate outcome. That still provides a pretty good basis to either flee while the target is shocked at the new unexpected hole in his body, or to follow up with an attack. You've got surprise on your side with a shocking opening blow, follow immediately with swift violent action and you're in a good position to turn the table on someone better armed than you if you have some competency. This is if you are in a situation where you must fight, as the high danger of such a fight is less than the danger of not fighting.
The Liberator had a very different use case: It was mostly to inspire paranoia in occupying forces because any random person they see on the street could have one and try to turn it on them.
With a kidnapping that's less of a concern, the kidnappers already know who the potential problems are and are taking the initiative.
ToastyMozart I meant more the concept of how the Liberator was designed to be used: as a weapon to obtain weapons. The literature that came with it pictured a user approaching and disabling an unsuspecting lone armed man with a single shot and taking his superior weapons. That's how you defeat a submachine gun with a derringer. The Pressin would ideally be used the same way, not in a direct confrontation. The disguise helps prevent the user from being identified as the lethal threat that they are until the shot(s) are fired.
One mustn't forget Immediately after Shocking, Surprising, and Blowing Two Holes in your assailants chest (assuming you dont have the opportunity for a contact shot.) You now have in your hand a Half Pound Block of steel. What more could you ask for in a blunt force weapon yea?
Thanks Ian. You solved a mystery I have had since at least 2001. I have a picture I took at the Ronald Reagan library in California of one of these. It was on display behind glass, but at the time was unmarked as to what it was. It has Ronald Reagan's signature in gold as well as other gold embellishments on it. I have never found any clue as to what it was or whom it was from. When I revisited the library 10 years later I did not see it anywhere. But yes, I can verify that in fact the Ronald Reagan library did at one time have this on display. It was certainly more ornate.
Wow, I found a picture of it and you're right, looks pretty interesting.
Heinz Linge
Would you rather be exposed? Like even is I was anti gun I would carry one around if I was the president
@@arthurmead5341 No he was not, 'In his "Guns & Ammo" column, Reagan left little doubt about his stance on the Second Amendment, writing: “In my opinion, proposals to outlaw or confiscate guns are simply unrealistic panacea.”
Reagan’s stance was that violent crime would never be eliminated, with or without gun control. Instead, he said, efforts to curb crime should target those who misuse guns, similarly to the way laws target those who use an automobile feloniously or recklessly. Saying the Second Amendment “leaves little, if any, leeway for the gun control advocate,” he added that “the right of the citizen to keep and bear arms must not be infringed if liberty in America is to survive.”'
@@arthurmead5341 Still not anti-gun, just anti full auto and anti nutzos owning guns.
no he was not just from California
@@arthurmead5341
“You can see the lever is all the way depressed.”
You know, I’m something of a lever myself
It lacks some picatiny rails.
Haha brilliant
Is it a pressin' issue, though?
ArcadeFredo
Yeah.
I cant put my Acog on it :c
And a bayonet
my first thought!
I read this as "lama's sneaky self-defense weapon" and I spent a very long time trying to figure out how you guys found out what the Dalai Lama carries to protect against Chinese assassins.
“Hey give me all your money!”
“Let me pull out my wallet”
**grabs holster**
**adds a Banksy to the alleyway**
Omg I want one. I love weird shit like this. Obviously this is an NFA item, however. This would fall under the Any Other Weapon category and transfer on a $5 tax stamp.
How would it not be a pistol?
Markus Reestuh
Interesting, thanks. There's so many gun laws I won't live to learn them all. I also wonder if they'd find some way to rule a trigger like this as select fire.
KowOneOhTwo basicly any gun that fires from a configuration that is not standard ie "gun shaped" becomes an Any Other Weapon which has a special tax category that requires a payment and registration with the atf and usually the stated government as well
Justin Bellio yeah I'm familiar with NFA items and the various tax stamps
You were a McGregor fan a week ago
I know what tax stamps are and what different kinds there are, but didn't know about that particular ruling for AOWs. I never claimed to have a complete knowledge of the subject, just a familiarity.
And another to the list of interesting Spanish guns next to the CETME stuff and the Ameli MG.
Also, llamas. Llamas, llamas, llamas!
It's "llama" as in flame, not the american camelid.
Also, it is pronounced something like "liama", "yama", "iama" or "shama".
Another thing, why you, the english speakers, always pronounce "one" instead of "Juan"? can't you pronounce the "J" or something?
Santiago Hernán Maydana IIRC in Spanish J is read as H
*cries in star s super*
you are right. That is why they laugh so funny.
So, it should sound something like "Huan", like some chinese name.
People die from that, Karl
As they approached the intersection, Miguel realised that it was now or never. As soon as he was downstairs, he was as good as dead. He was a low level data analyst, no one would be willing to trump up his kidnap fee.
But if he were to act now, potentially he could barricade himself in his office until the police could arrive.
Miguel stealed his nerves and acted, gripping the pistola pressin case in his left breast pocket. A gift from an uncle, he'd scoffed at the idea he might ever use it.
The man to his left, a rather beaten up Uzi in his grubby hands, seemed more interested in what was ahead than their captive besides them. Same with the one ahead. Miguel couldn't think of the one against his right shoulder, vice-like grip on his arm. He had to focus on targets of opportunity. They reached the stairwell intersection...
And breathe.
He pressed the pistola's safety stud and pulled the hidden weapon from his pocket. The left kidnapper's neck presented itself. With a crack that took Miguel more by surprise, the pistola discharged and suddenly the Uzi-wielder was but a stain of blood on the white-gloss wall.
The kidnapper ahead could barely turn before the pistola's second round tapped off his head. It wasn't a true shot but the man's screams sounded genuine enough.
And the thug to the right. Miguel had only two shots, now spent. They growled anger and bile. But the stairwell lay behind.
Miguel threw his body weight, what little there was, into them.
A meagre shove but enough. The kidnapper was toppled off of the top step, arms flailing, momentum sailing them backwards.
Miguel didn't wait to see the fruits of his desperate efforts, instead running back towards his offices.
He hoped he could move the filing cabinet in front of the door in time.
He prayed he wasn't about to shot in the back...
I love that it's got two holes in the case, you know I think it might make its own?
shawn Dooley just to show direction when clised. An arrow would have been the same but a quick view tells you the pew-pew direction
@@dennisburgess8986 ha yeah, getting shot in the gut as you shout aha! To you kidnappers because you did look for the two holes would really put a dampener on your day.
Dennis Burgess intelligent, you have to look down the barrel to figure out where the barrel is...
Given that it's in .32 ACP, shooting through leather would probably reduce the velocity to sub-lethal levels...
@@derekeastman7771 Not really mate, the stud for the safety will tell you and if you have it in back to front you won't press it so no kaboom.
Lol, imagine someone confusing this for a TV remote
One for the TV, one for the cable box.
That's a universal mute button.
Mark Byrd universal "off" switch is slightly more accurate
Yayo' Ariowibowo Uh-hunh, uh- huh-HUNH.
I would think more similarity with a stapler. :)
Those of us who do metal fabrication and build their own guns would just really love a little bit more detailed info on how that system worked!
I wonder how much more effective the 32 acp is fired from this sort of firearm?
Let me explain what I mean......this is a sealed breach and not a blow back action so all the energy is only going out the muzzle. Also this is obviously a powder burn distance weapon if not a contact weapon . As a contact weapon all the gas and particulates would be blown into the wound. That should in theory make for a larger temporary wound cavity and a dirtier wound which could give rise to infection later.
I guess this is all gruesome conjecture.
Te felicito por el vídeo. Es raro que tengas una pressin, se fabricaron pocas y de venta muy restringida debido a que son armas camufladas. Saludos desde España.
That way of firing it is actually really smart. I was wondering how you'd deal with safety and how would you pull it out in time, but they thought of everything.
These aren’t my glasses
This acting reminded me of some sharks in a bathtub
This is not my beautiful wife!
Now imagining one of these in a hotel lost and found because no one opened it when it was left in the room.
I'm from Spain and I've never heard of these, but I was born in 96...
Then again, I guess they did a good job of keeping these a secret? lol
I'm from Spain too. I think very few people here knows this gun.
Did it trigger you too how he said "llama" lol
@ Y viva la diarrea mental que tienes.
@ ok bro
@ viva tu camello, chaval. Y viva lo que sea que te ha dao.
I can really see what made the Spanish security forces uncomfortable with this gun. It looked mostly plastic, it won't look like a gun when x-rayed, it will be dismissed as sunglasses in a strip search unless it's really thorough... It'd be possible to bring that thing pretty much anywhere.
It will definitely look like a gun when x-rayed. It has metal chambers and metal barrels.
@@skipfred
If so, a lot of things would look like guns when x-rayed.
@@midimusicforever Example of something that's not a gun that has firing pins, cartridge sized chambers, and barrels?
@@skipfred Also the ammunition.
Nice to see that Llama understood the importance of keeping a secret. Covert weapons don't work if everyone knows about them. Not just weapons.... I remember when I was watching a video review on YT on another channel for a certain rather popular messenger bag back several years ago. And the reviewer, just one of many, who idiotically and quite happily pointed out where the completely hidden pocket was, on the bag. A pocket perfect for holding sensitive documents, several bills of cash, and anything else thin you want to keep hidden. Well.... not anymore!
As for the usefulness of two shots. I know of a firearms instructor who had a former student, businessman, who carried a two shot Derringer for protection. One night, as two men grabbed him and forced him into the backseat of a car, he was able to successfully escape by using that little thing. Needless to say, he afterwards started carrying something far better for protection. Still, that little gun and two shots were good enough. I mean, if a businessman gets kidnapped by a well-armed and professional team of terrorists; the usefulness of two shots in a very compact package becomes a bit questionable. But if it's two guys wanting a quick score or perhaps doing it as an initiation into a terrorist group, might just be a different story.
Absolutely. To shoot the terrorists square in the face when already captured would make your life hurt more than necessary! A broken nose, ribs and a few fingers/toes poorer. If one manages to get behind cover before the abduction though, firing at them leaves them wondering what the heck you are carrying, and their lives are at risk. They'd very probably abort mission, also because guns attract attention.
Did he get a 4 shot one
A kidnapping is a protracted and chaotic event. I am sure this device could turn the tables if it was used at a pivotal moment.
Yeah, against the kidnapped.
This thing doesn't even look like a gun, you'd have to fire one shot just to convince your captors (good luck with trigger control under stress when it's your very first time using the damn thing). And, if you actually want to take them down and not just threaten them... You'll need even more luck.
I believe the idea is you work your way into a situation where you are alone with one other guy or 2 and off him.... or just off yourself.
Right when they're about to get their target, he shoots himself in the head.
The only way I can see it helping is by surprising the kidnappers and in that instant you get to run to help or escape.
tenofprime I think the idea would be that they have grabbed you and you're basically using it in very close range. Sure it's dangerous, but it beats being killed without fighting back.
Love them all and each has a place for the growing number if categories in our history. Thanks for taking time out.
I would color it red and engrave "Swingline" on the top.
Then, when my captors procured an unkempt stack of documents, I'd offer them an organizational solution to their chaos.
...if they take my...my stapler I'll have to set the building on fire...
Massively underated comment
ETA terrorists often acted in pairs, for several reasons, so 2 shots was deemed enough, whether effective or not... Awesome find and great video as usual!
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the absolutely impeccable acting in the opening?
Sir, can i see your ticket?
BANG
BANG
There you go, forth row right, seat 16.
For the size, and inability to reload, you'd figure it would be in 410 or something.
you can reload it
Meanwhile in the high spheres in Spain:
A- Amigo, ¿Por qué llevas esa cartuchera de gafas si ni siquieras usas?
B- Oh, mira, te voy a contar un secreto, pero no le digas a nadie...
A- No es una cartuchera de gafas. ¿Estoy en lo correcto?
B- Si.
A- ¿Llevas maquillaje para la noche?
B- Efectiv... ¡Oye!
no
Taco
@@Thatboxlady It's Spain not Mexico.
It's empanadilla you brute
@@granudisimo I was just making a joke mate.
@@Thatboxlady Joke's on both of us since I should've said paella. (Or pa el, or pa todos).
I always find weapons like these so interesting
Its crazy all the weird small devices we come up with to kill/hurt someone
Kyle Bell well this is actually made for defense
Ashton Fields im aware bit defense still involves killing/hurting
Gun Nut small guns pocket guns are designed for that purpose exclusively yes, which is what i was talking about, your not going to use this or a derringer to hunt an animal or sport shoot
My comment is exactly as i mean
Larger firearms dont apply to it
No Kyle, defense does not involve killing or hurting. Defense involves defending yourself from someone else attempting to hurt or kill you. Most people who own a gun and have defended themselves with said gun have rarely killed anyone and barely hurt anyone. Having a pump action shotgun has been statistically proven to be the best defense by merely the sound of cocking the damn thing. Not firing it, not seeing it, just cocking it. Nice try though. That's actually not true, it was a just a regular try.
D Nizzle ok
Liked for the cheesy intro. Interesting as always man.
Mr Bond I pressume. Brillant design.
I never knew about this guns and im from spain... xD. I also find it funny when you say ETA just by spelling, here we are used to pronounce it just like a word.
There is a good show on Netflix about ETA. I’m American and I never knew about that group
It's probably because we use "ETA" as an initialism in English, too (Estimated Time of Arrival).
Sounds like the Russian word «это»
alb cas That's because our country has very lame laws for guns and other weapons xD
Nothing is funny if it's about ETA
US citizen buys one. Immediately calls local FFL07 to have it hogged out for standard 32 cartridges.
😎
Marky
Now the big brain play here is to keep you glasses in the pistol case, and the pistol in your glasses case.
Flex on your friends about you cool new glasses!
If they are not impressed,
*YOU CAN SHOOT THEM!*
Yes
Como ex militar español JAMÁS supe de la existencia de estas armas por parte de LLAMA (IAMA) GRACIAS POR ESTE VIDEO!
(SPANISH)
Yo sí, venía en cualquier libro sobre pistolas.
Cuando escribas en foros mayoritariamente de USA es mejor que pongas Spaniard. Spanish es un termino muy confuso en USA, pues muchos alli confunden idioma con pais, pero Spaniard es para ellos claro: español de Europa.
I'm mildly unnerved by how preposterously easy it is to muzzle yourself with this device. Hell, Ian does it four or five times in the course of the video, and he's a professional.
The Pressin were mainly used or at least much more common between jewellers than by any other, they'd get to made 9mm versions at the end; when you'd enter on a jewelry was common to see the "holdster" over the counter or the jeweller holding it. The ppl of interest to be kidnaped by ETA used to be from the government, richs... of rightwingers in general, so they already had A) firearms license and the gun always on 'em or B) had a bodyguards team or teams; the Pressins don't were rare in the 90s in the civilian market for jewellers, bar/pub owners or constructors among others.
Interesting, thanks!
This was a load of bull. I thoroughly hate when people who have no fucking clue about a very serious topic come and spew shit like this.
Look, there were not so rich people kidnapped by ETA. From simple prison bureocrats to lowly local political figures, going through engineers, etc. yeah, list includes a handful of rich businessmen but none of them of top ranking status.
Not to mention that people of interest for ETA was virtually anyone who didn't agree with their fucked up views or, being businessmen in Euskadi they refused to pay their extortion tax (the so called "revolutionary toll").
Thing is, ETA tended to put a couple bullets through the skull of those, or a bomb under their car, before kidnapping them. And against that this thing was useless. But kidnaps happened and they rarely were of exceedingly rich people, rather of much more "common folk" people who wasn't likely to have a personal security detachment because a) they couldn't afford it and b) they never thought they'd be kidnapped to begin with.
or do you think people like Ryan, Revilla, Ortega Lara, Julio Iglesias Sr, Ortega Lara, Miguel Angel Blanco, and a long etcetera, were either from the governments or insanely rich?. What about Lertxundi, who was a former member of the Communist Party...and of ETA itself to being with?. And all of them rightwingers, right?.
You, sir, would do well in shutting your mouth before writting bullshit like that. If you are fucking clueless, just shut your trap. For reals.
And sorry for the extreme reaction, but I'm VERY sensitive towards anything related with ETA.
If you're speaking of the prison guard kidnaped by ETA... he was and still is a notorious rightwinger and that's why he was an ETA's target; and the threatened with kidnapping were most of the Vasque Country bussinessmen that were also rightwingers. They also took action on "traitors" to their cause, drug dealers, and those who they'd though that were harming "their cause"; the Julio Iglesias father had bodyguards, Ortega Lara was againist 'em, Miguel Angel Blanco was memeber of the political party resoulting of the dictatorship etc etc etc. You come with your side of the history and i came with the general facts because this is a guns channel and not a political channel to discuss the 50 years of ETA, there're books for that, this is about the Pressin, it's use and it's final users. So... keep raising that arm!.
He wasn't a prison guard. He was a bureocrat, to begin with, with the salary of a midclass man. And I guess now kidnapping people because of their political allegiance whatever that might be is very justified, right?.
First, the PP (a political party I can't stand, but that I don't have to make up bullshit to dislike it, unlike you it seems) is not "the political party resulting of the dictatorship". Its a center-right liberal-conservative christian-democratic party, integral member of the European People's Party. Is the EPP also "resulting of the dictatorship"?.
Second, I don't come with "my side of the history". I'm basque. I've lived it first person, on spot, the effects of living in a society that day after day had to live under the threat of being shot in the head, bombed to oblivion, kidnapped, beaten into a pulp, or a long list of other rather displeasing thing just because you happened to think that anyone who supported, excused,defended, etc, ETA is fucking mental and a disgusting human being, or just because you thought shooting someone in the head in front of their kid was not the way to pursue any political agenda.
Third, you didn't come with facts, you came up with bullshit as my two previous points make clear, and I hope the next one goes on proving so.
Targets for ETA were anyone who called their bullshit for the bullshit it was and is. What happens now, Lertxundi was also franquist or what?. Ryan was franquist? Tomas y Valiente?. Carrasco?. Indiano? Casado?. Lluch? Jauregui?. All those and the many others?. All the list of businessmen who had to flee the Basque Country because they refused to finance a terrorist group of fuckheads by paying the revolutionary toll and feared the consequences of not giving into the extorsion?. Those were also "notorious rightwingers"?. Drug dealers?. Something like that? Maybe the kids killed in Hipercor were also franquists in disguise?. Or maybe all the families of the Civil Guard Barracks in Zaragoza?. Maybe those in the Vic Barracks (or the School that was next door?). Those killed or injured in the Lopez de Hoyos bomb?.
Once more, if all you're going to write is apologetic shit about a brutal terrorist group by making shit up:
SHUT
YOUR
FUCKING
TRAP
if you don't have a fucking clue of what you're talking about. Or worse, if you know and still want to write apologetic bullshit.
And if this is a guns channel and not a political channel you should've zipped your nasty hole before posting what you did in the first place. You did post it, I'm NOT letting you away by posting apologetic bullshit about those fucking nazi assassins. Is that clear enough?.
Sure sure... just keep raising the arm man...
Kidnapper: Do your glasses bite?
Victim: Those are not my glasses.
"a cut-down .32 ACP"
Guess you better hope the terrorists aren't wearing jackets...
Do you want to try taking a shot from it? You can pick any regular jacket you want. ;)
@@midimusicforever LOGICAL FALLACY. But thanks for playing. :-P I also don't want to "take a shot" from a spitwad in my ear. Does that make a spitwad lethal?
@@jasoncarswell7458
A rhetorical question is not a logical fallacy.
Seems like one of those mini revolvers would be easier to use
Put it against his neck.
Considering the target demographic of this thing, I'm amazed none of them shot themselves. Don't get me wrong, I'm not an expert, but this clearly needed some training and hours put into (much like any holster and this goes a step up from that) and I doubt the carriers would do it.
This is a device to salve a rich man's ego. Companies make lots of money selling unneeded products to rich European men with massive superiority complexes.
K.R. Baylor Here the main "problem" wasn't kidnapping, it was at point blank by the back or bombing, sadly none of those arms helped anybody.
K.R. Baylor And it wasn't ego was fear.
"Hey kidnapper, come check out the fine detail on my sunglasses case"
This is actually very incredible the incredible the design seems really well done and it seems like it would be pretty effective for its time
Although I live in the Basque Country this is something I never heard off, probably it was far more common in other "not that hot" areas, here the rule was bodyguards, probably much more effective than this and probably why this wasn't really all that popular.
Did anyone ever use this successfully ??
Not that I am aware of.
Considering how many successful kidnappings and assassinations by the ETA there were in the years following this gun's release, this pretty much proves that those keyboard warriors in the comment section here with their "aim for the brain stem" nonsense have no idea what they are talking about.
Forgotten Weapons wow, thanks for the reply, i am a huge fan of the channel and website. I appreciate all the obscure weapons showcased on this channel that otherwise i would never get to know about. I have alot of respect for what you all do.
That's classified.
mi grand fater hurt a tiefe whit one of this that was in the mid 80.
'Anyone planning to kidnap them would simply notice the pistol and plan accordingly' - exquisite turn of phrase.
"These arent my glasses...
it's a gun...!"
I can only imagine that someone faced this the wrong way and shot themself in the forearm.
Should have named it “Swingline”
Just as a little side note: The company wasn't called "Llama" because of the animal. "Llama" (pronounced something like "ja-ma") means flame in Spanish.
These in 9mm or 10mm would probably sell well. Especially if lightened up with polymer.
I can see now where the plastic gun from the movie "In the Line of Fire" got its design.
Wasn't it wooden? But yea
The things that came to mind were "that looks impossible to aim" and "it feels like an accidental discharge waiting to happen." Ian's remarks about the people carrying one probably having no training at all rang true. I can envision if the guy carrying it is panicking, he might point it at *himself* and squeeze. The side with the barrels isn't that distinctive when it's still in the case.
Lol exactly. Most people who carry regular guns have zero training. I cringe every time I’m at a range/store or any of the qualifications that I’ve done with regular people. Also sold guns for a while. The shit I’ve seen and heard 🤦♂️
It would be a good idea to add some lines on the case indicating the muzzle direction. Perhaps even constructing the inside in such a way that the firearm can be placed only facing in said direction.
This is extremely intuitive, I love it.
That’s amazing. I would love to see more like this.
i like the premade exit holes on the case,nice touch.
Wasn’t there something like this made in the USA , back in the 1960s , in .22 LR ?
I remember something about a glasses gun , and the Troika four-shot pistol as well .
I know you have already done a vid on the CIA “ “ Deer Gun “ , the old Liberator that LOOK like what they are , and the Welrod , of course ...which doesn’t ....
Palm pistols ...
I don’t know if you have covered the .22 “ Stinger “ , ( I think they have begun to manufacture those again ) or the “Cigarette Gun “ and the lipstick pistol .
I think you may have covered the glove gun ( carries a heckova punch ).
Might you consider doing a vid on clandestine firearms ?
Purpose built and commercial firearms adapted for concealed use .
You might have all kinds of fun with book guns , cane guns , pen guns , and the like .
James Bond briefcase kit , for the junior spy in all of us .
Sounds more like a series of vids to me .
I've for sure seen a video about some other glasses case gun
Bully: **makes fun of the quite kid's glasses**
The quite kid: 0:00
Your channel is incredibly good. You have a true fan in Brazil.
"... but will it run Skyrim?"
Mr. Winters everything will be able to, in time
Yes, but it won't run Crysis
...& what about Glock ma... ahhh sweet Gun Jesus!
I used to be able to run Cryrim, but then i took an arrow to my gun.