The Fight with My Mom
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- Опубліковано 24 лют 2021
- Fam, you know that we’ve never shied away from keeping it real on Hello Hunnay. Well, a few weeks ago it got a little too real between Mama Mai and I... While this is hard to watch just know that we are still working through it and we hope this helps those of you struggling with some of the same issues right now. 💕
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Have you ever gotten in a big fight with your parents?
I’ve argued w my mom so much since I was a teenager and I know it’s affected me internally.
I've argued with my mom but I do still love her.
I grew up with an abusive mother, so never a fight fight but yes
So glad to see mumma mai in a long vid can’t wait to watch lyl xox your the best youtuber ever 👍🏻 plz post long vids wiv mumma Mai
Its normal...
It’s so sad that some parents would rather lose a child than an argument
THAT PART
And they don't think any of it.
Wow, I actually never thought of it like this.
Dont forget she had done this before she didnt believe jeannie when she spoke up about her r4pist she didnt fight for her child when jeannie left
Yup!
"Toxic parents" is a real thing. Boundaries are necessary.
Amen
Hmmmm. In this case it's my other family members.
momma mai isn’t toxic
Extremely toxic, her mother is a fun person as a friend or co-worker but as a mother I would not have her in my life if she's my mom's. The fact that she called her daughter the devil says a lot about her, she responded this woman here and her mother corrected her so why are you okay with calling your daughter the devil but she's not okay with calling you this woman here.
@@BreeBrog very well put, l also noticed how her (mum)demeanor changed when her son came on camera. When 16 year old JM left home to escape a predatory family member, her mum never looked for her, go figure.
This reminds me of my fights with my mom. I started crying. Parents can say the most hurtful things and think it won’t affect us.
Story of my life! Haven’t spike to my mother in over a year
@@EndlessLoveNyx talk to your mother
It’s not as hurt as when mom’s giving birth, I guess. Plus, we’re much younger than our parents, so we can handle that :)
If mama Mai continues to act like this and belittle Jeannie, Mama Mai will lose an amazing daughter. Mama Mai shouldn’t have invited people to a quarantined engagement dinner for family only, and then blames Jeannie for it. When Mama Mai called Jeannie the devil, and she doesn’t want Jeannie as a daughter, I literally cried for her. That’s a line you never cross as a mother.
Sure
Lol it’s really freaks me out because Jeanie PAYS FOR EVERYTHING. Housinf, clothing, cars, food. EVERYTHING for her mother and that’s the respect she gets? Rich people owe their parents NOTHING.
I don’t like her mom . She is so mean to Jeannie
@@stacyr4768I thought I was the only one that felt that way, her mother is so mean and she doesn’t take accountability.
Y’all gotta remember Mama Mai is the same woman who didn’t believe Jeannie when she got molested. Her pride matters more than her relationship with her daughter.
Exactly. She is selfish and toxic
This!
wait someone explain
Exactly why I’m confused as to why people are shocked she is toxic...if you won’t protect a CHILD you are a lost cause
@@perriexdaily look at the video in why jeannie and mama mai did not talk for 8 years
Normalize apologizing to your children when you’re wrong.
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But the child was
Disrespectful first.
Louder for the people at the back!
When j said "you probably don't even want a daughter like me", I cried. That's the worst feeling. Like the one person in the world that you think will always want you just doesn't want you
@@Esnath nah. Being careless in a pandemic is disrespectful
Can we give Jeezy some brownie points for being a supportive fiance (at that time)?! Just because we come from broken families, doesn't mean we have to stay and raise one!
He really is!
True🙏🏼
😂
This didnt age well oop☕☕☕
@@Gemgirl05 it sure didn't! Lol.
When they told mamma Mai to leave the conference call room and come back but she actually tried leaving her actual room, I died 😂😂😂
She's angry because Jeannie yelled at her in front of her ex-husbands new wife. That's the real reason she says she'll never forgive Jeannie. Because saving face is so huge in her culture, more important than her relationship with her daughter. From one mother to another, your love for your daughter should always be unconditional.
Finally someone who gets why Mama Mai can't let go.
@@m.l.2483 Getting it doesn't change the fact that Jeannie is hurting and still her daughter. This exhusbands wife is living her life happily. Momma Mai was hurt because of the culture when her father stopped speaking to her. She sits with regret for letting her ex husband go instead of speaking up in a way that her culture stopped her from doing at the time of her separation. When will she learn that her culture isn't supporting her happiness? She can talk about her parents and the disappointment of their toxicity. She knows this hurt her. Why do the same to your child? Momma Mai recognizes that her attitude and behavior ended her marriage. If she took one moment to step outside of herself she would recognize the patterns here. She should seek therapy. I bet if Jeannie stopped supporting Momma finacially momma mai would open her eyes. Then again, maybe not. Perhaps culrurally Jeannie is expected to take care of her.
Nah, love is conditional. You want to excommunicate the ones you love? My love for you is conditional. I will not allow you to manipulate, abuse me, gas light me, or make me feel lesser than. My love for anyone is conditional.
@@33watch55 All culture change when they live in another country/are changing in their own country also. The younger generation are too savvy with the Internet to remain "docile".
@@EllieBeth16 do you have children? I have four, and my love for them is unconditional.
TBH Mama Mai is clearly repeating the toxic cycle she’s learned from her parents but Jeannie is actively trying to end the cycle!! GOOD JOB JEANNIE ❤️💪🏼
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Mama Mai needs to take a step back and look at this situation with fresh eyes. Mama Mai should be the example and should be able to be humble and admit bad behaviors. Doesn’t mean Mama Mai is a bad person, but has bad behaviors. “Your still under me”? I am afraid respect is earned. Take quarantine seriously. It’s one party doesn’t matter if you trust each other. Family friends invited us to a party. 20-30 people. There was one immune compromised... died 3 weeks after that party. Half the people became infected because one person was infected and non symptomatic. Everyone was “quarantining” but you can’t control everyone’s contacts. I understand Jeannie is taking precautions. Mama Mai said they don’t go to too many parties. My level of confidence in others... zero.
Mama Mai needs help to see that she gets therapy herself to recognise her issues
Jeannie got soo hurt when her mom mentioned the wedding😭😭😭😭my heart breaks for her. I will never look at her mom the same way. I had forgiven her for not believing Jeannie when she was molested but I don't think I can get over this.
I think they did manage to resolve the issue and Mama Mai did come to the wedding after all I believe.
I don’t think Jeannie will ever find the peace she desires as long as her mother is in her life. When we are young we have to include our family in our lives. As an adult you have the power to exclude anyone who is destructive to your soul. Jeannie you’re a treasure who don’t deserve this chaos.
Totally agree let them loose if they dont feed your soul
Facts! 💯
@nikkimerry7950
Yeah. What’s sad about their situation is, many people have their heart set on having a good relationship with their family, especially their parents. They long for that very badly. It’s hard for people to accept the harsh reality that sometimes, it’ll never happen b/c some people are too toxic and arrogant.
-Mama Mai’s issue is, she has the same problem with her own father treating her badly and her mom not doing enough to protect her (She was scared to get a divorce. Mama Mai talked about this in another video.) She doesn’t know how to be a parent b/c she didn’t have the best role-models growing up herself!
My heart just broke when Jeannie said “ you probably don’t even want a daughter like me” I really hope that she understands how great of a person she is and not just a person a great daughter. Jeannie. You give back to your mom, to your family, and you also support and work hard for so many causes, please don’t forget how truly great you are and I know your moms may make you feel very bad please don’t forget how great you really are.
Yes this broke me as well because I always felt this way with my father but seeing this makes me understand it was never me rather the other party😔
Very well said.
Ah shit man that got me so bad😢😢😢
😥 I will keep you both in my prayers and ask Lord Jesus for healing 🙏 I love you JeannieMai and I understand you❤
Yes Jeannie, you’re so amazing, BEYOND AMAZING. U have so much love coming your way
The problem is, Jeannie can apologize and admit she’s wrong but mama Mai can’t admit she’s wrong. She escalates an argument by saying more hurtful things to hurt someone.
I totally agree with both of these comments. Jeannie why do u put up with her nonsense ? You're a grown woman now and you need to live your life with your soon to be husband. Your mom and J might get along well now but after time he will tire of her ignorant ways. She must have attention. She's gonna ruin your marriage. Your mom manipulates people. She's manipulating J. Be careful Jeannie. Your mom disrespects you so much and you can't see it. Read these comments to her. She thinks she's always right. Does your mother work? She seems to travel alot. I hope you're not giving her money. I wouldn't be surprised, she using you. I'm still angry that she spent so much time with J. She's clearly trying to keep Jazzy on her side. The way she's talking to you in this video is unbearable to watch. She doesn't even make sense. And I'm sorry Jeannie but you keep backing down from her. Your mom is very childish.
I think this is very common in Asian parents (maybe other culture parents too). My parents and elders have a really hard time admitting fault and apologizing. I think it hurts their pride and often they choose their pride over relationship with family. But we can’t also make Jeannie feel bad for continuing to foster a relationship with her mother. Some of us can cut off a relationship familial or not, not everyone can.
Her mom is a mom. She invited two couples, jeanie got upset. Her mom was wrong. She disrespected her mom next day and then her mom got upset. If u know your mom is batshit move on lmao jeanie care but sis... you didnt have to have this convo for UA-cam WITH A TO BE CONTINUE NEXT WEEK. You cant want an apology to get an apology lmao I think her mom took a break. But I think she wouldve tried to come to the wedding and make it about her return lmaooooooo and that's the bullshit I dont like.
I agree she does but it’s a coping mechanism. My mother does the same thing.
Her mom is still wrong. The issue is if your parents have caused you trauma and you've moved on without addressing their behavior you cant be mad when they're the same. I just dont like that Jeanie tried to use UA-cam to show her mom is too much bc we been knew that. Jeanie deserves a break from feeling like nothing has actually changed bc nothing hasn't. U just grew to become a better person/daughter and your parents are who they are. Jeanie sounds like me when I used to cuss bc I knew they wouldnt listen until I cursed lmao but then it became about disrespect.
This all should've resolved months ago. I wouldve left Mama Mai where she was at. She took a break bc instead of handling the issue like an adult she wanted everything to just pass on and then theyd make up at the wedding or some shit that wouldve given her more unnecessary attention.
This was honestly so hard to watch without being emotional and trigging my own traumas being a daughter to immigrant parents from Vietnam. It's so hard because of the language barriers. I wish my parents understood and spoke as well as Mama Mai so I could even have conversations like this. My mom says a lot of hurtful things when she's mad as well or feels challenged on her beliefs (that are wrong sometimes). Thank you for sharing this. Once I come to some money and find the right therapist who speaks Vietnamese and can translate, I am going to get myself and my mom into therapy one day so we can better understand each other.
It’s sad the parents that come from disfuntional homes, they have a hard time being good parents. They don’t want to ask for forgiveness, there always right and stubborn. They always try to manipulate us kids. It’s sad that mama Mai was so mean with Jeannie.
The way Mamma Mai says "you're the devil", "you're over here, I'm over there", "I want you to feel guilty", just sickens me.
Jeannie, I know she's your mother but she's really behaving childish, not apologizing, not being the parent or the biggest person... She overall just hurts you. My heart breaks for you... I hope you manage to stay strong. And remember that even if she's your mother, she doesn't have the right to treat you like that...
Mama Mai totally disrespected Jeannie! Jeannie apologized several times, and she still called her a DEVIL! I'm sorry but Mama Mai is acting petty and childish, and Jeannie needs to walk away! Matter of fact, dont walk away, run!!🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️🏃🏻♀️
I agree especially that last part (30:45) when Jeanie said “ You probably don’t even want a daughter like me” that part just brakes me! I see two very hurt people but more than anything I really hope Mama Mai can come to terms with her own inner child and heal so she can accept her mistakes and the pain she’s perpetuated. I really hope for healing for both Jeanie and her mom. Hopefully the next video is done in discussion with a professional therapist 🤍
She's more like a sister than a really good mother.
Mama Mai, she shouldn’t have invited HER friends to her DAUGHTER private engagement party. Period.
Very rude
@@BriaBarrows very, I would’ve been just as upset.
I agree
I relate SO MUCH to this. I see people in the comment section talk about "Cut her off. Cut her off". That's not an easy thing to do when you genuinely care about the person. This reflects the kinda relationship between my mum and I, I'm already so scared to lose her to death. Cutting her off is not something I can do easily. I wish you all the best Jeannie.
We all have a choice to continue being abused by her or you cut her loose.The fact of the matter Jeannie is clinging to the perception of a mother because mama mai needs to be mothered herself so she's not doing anything for this girl..shes just draining the life out of her
Narcissistic mother ... wow.
Must’ve been hard growing up with that I’m so sorry.
A trauma ridden child often kicks in survival instinct and through that they develop a sense of selfishness turned into narcissism
The part where Jeannie brought up how her mother and grandfather had a fractured relationship and the cycle was repeating itself was so deep. Generational curses are hard to break.
FR!
Mama mai is a perfect example of a toxic parent who guilt trips their own child so that she never has to bow down or say sorry. She simply won’t ever accept that she was wrong. Period.
Sadly many Asian parents are toxic especially the ones who immigrated to the US from poor countries and lack of education. Because my parents can be pretty toxic too. Which makes me think what do they expect if they disrespect their own children? We aren't just gonna let it go easy we are gonna feel some type of way or not being cared for emotionally and mentally.
My mom is the same way. Smh.
Throughout all them seasons of Jeannie retelling stories on The Real, it’s super sad to see, mama Mai is toxic 😔 she is a product of very old school “I’m right you’re wrong” mentality. The whole notion that just bc you’re the parent you can act and say whatever the hell you feel but god forbid your child speaks up for themselves. I’m glad newer generations are recognizing this toxic behavior and calling it out and hopefully changing it for the better.
This broke my heart so much seeing the cultural and generational curses so deeply rooted in mama mai, you can see so clearly in her eyes that she really heard what you said but her pride and ego takes over. When she admits all the good things jeannie does for her she is halfway there and then the ego and pride takes over fully and she goes back into her shell.
Let's not forget mama Mai also didn't believe Jeannie when she told her she was being molested and that's why they didn't talk for 8 years. Mama Mai is always putting Jeannie down in all the videos and she just wants to leech off of jeannie's fame. Yes Jeannie is allowed to be upset about her being selfish and mama Mai isn't acting like a mama at all. She's acting like a petulant child and that's why she's being treated like one. Sometimes it's better to cut people out and never look back.
How is she leeching off?
@@dasiareed8922 she's only mamma Mai and people know her because of Jeannie
Exactly momma mai is horrible but may be that is also to do with the culture of being cold and towards girls never looked up on . Sad i was crying for Jennie
This is probably one of the many reasons why Jeannie doesn’t want to have children. She wouldn’t want to make her child feel the way she has been made to feel...like a devil 😞
😭😭😭
Now I’m considering it
Yup, one of the first things I've seen while viewing the video.
This is the only comment I'm liking cause I'm on team jeannie here i dont wanna attack mama mai as well but youre speaking truth.
Ow my heart
I really admire the way Jay treated Mama Mai when she decided to leave Christmas. It speaks volumes of his quiet strength and character as a "real" man. I was very impressed and know most men are not emotionally equipped to handle such a delicate situation. I pray you two work it out. From what I can see pride played a huge part in this misunderstanding. Personally, I feel one of the greatest things in life is the unconditional love of a mother. I hope Mama Mai will gain the wisdom to put aside her pride and "give" Jeannie the unconditional love that a child deserves. The wonderful thing is you both want to the same outcome, that's a positive start in the right direction.
Sorry, I call BS on this...he was just enabling her. If everyone stuck together and not cater to the lunacy, she wouldn't be able to get away with it! But there's always someone that gives in and allows the mental abuse to continue.
Thank you so much for being so raw and real about certain issues with your mom helps the rest of us that are going through the same ❤️💜
To all the people commenting “she shouldn’t have posted this”, “ they should’ve worked it out first”..... first of all scroll through the comments and see how many people commented that their mother acts the SAME way & they actually feel like they’re not alone after watching this. This is something that needs to be spoken about more!! Too many families face these same issues and it causes so much mental health issues and builds up trauma. Secondly she says in the beginning of the video that her mom is more likely to talk about these issues if it’s with Paul and it’s being recorded than actually with her. She wanted to speak about it with her mother so that they could resolve the issue instead of prolonging it. Jeannie I understand why you were upset, I would be too. It was your engagement party and your mother wanted to invite other people and make it her Christmas party, that’s not ok. No you shouldn’t have yelled at her but you apologized and we all do things impulsively that we sometimes regret. Mama Mai doesn’t want to accept your apology and move on, that’s on her. I hope that you guys can work this out but if not do not continue put jeopardize your inner peace, it’s time for you to heal.
yessss
I agree! This shouldn’t have been brought to us because looking at it Jeannie is totally yelling at the top of her lungs. Bottom line regardless of your age you don’t disrespect your parent(s). You don’t talk in anger.
Jeannie's not apologizing. People who apologize do not have a but afterwards.
I kind of wished I didn't know but this scenario is being played out in thousands of homes around the world. Hopefully this will help others. Hopefully it will help Jeannie realize she may need to love her mom from a distance. I love my family, there are some I can't have in my everyday life Even though they've never disrespected me. We live different lifestyles some of those I disagree with but I realize it's not my problem to fix. Jeannie can't fix her mom. If you think about all the really mean things she's said or done we only laugh bc of her accent. That is what makes her seem funny.
@@numbernine3436 I agree with you completely. Mama Mai behaves like Jeanie is not a person with real feelings, and Jeanie is always bending over backwards for her approval, trying to please her. Mama Mai is a terrible mother!
I’m with Jeannie on this. Mama Mai shouldn’t invite her friends to Jeannie and Jay’s private engagement dinner. It’s not her engagement party.
I honestly don’t understand why Mama Mai makes everything about her. 🤦🏽♀️ She needs therapy, she really has some issues. She isn’t a bad person just got some issues to deal with.
Even though this was heavy at moments, I thought it was really interesting and made me think introspectively. I seen a lot of myself in both Jeannie and Mama Mai at different points in my life. Super relatable. Thanks for posting Jeannie! It reinforced some things for me.
Covid or not, Jeannie wanted an intimate party so her mother should’ve respected that.
Yessss!!!!!!!
Agree!!!
Exactly it was supposed to be for 8 PEOPLE that’s it and her mom inviting people that Jeannie didn’t want over there
Talking about she was combining HER Christmas with a party that had nothing to do with Christmas! Like what!
Girl YES! wrong on multiple levels
Anyone saying Jeannie shouting “is disrespectful “ Y’all try hearing all those hurtful words from your mom and see if your reaction is different
She's hurt and frustrated all normal reactions considering the circumstances.
Exactly and she started off calling her the devil.
Exactly, how else is she supposed to respond? Her mom is calling her the devil, saying that she’s never going to talk to her again, not going to her wedding, that she’s happier when she’s not around Jeannie. This is textbook emotional warfare.
Exactly
EXACTLY
Stay positive Jeannie were all here for you, we see you’re trying!!! We love you sending positive vibes your way chula 💐😘💕
My mom is a narcissist and it took almost 10 years of her and I grappling with her never apologizing for her wrongs for her to finally change (I’m 23 for reference of how long it has been). The last two years, our relationship has improved so drastically because I was able to change the way I reacted to her. I relate to Jeannie on a deep level. It takes re-parenting your inner child and your parent restructuring their entire mind. It’s like a generational thing or something, all parents I know of through my friends have a problem with admitting to their faults. Mama Mai needs to get help to understand her faults and where her issues stem from so that she can become a better person to her daughter. I hope you can get the peace of mind you deserve regarding the relationship with your Mom, Jeannie.
Hearing the hurt in Jeannie’s voice telling her mom that if she has to separate from her in order to be happy. I felt that. I’ve had to do the same thing, even though its a hard decision to make its necessary. Especially when dealing with a narcissist parent. I’m so sorry Jeannie. Just know that you are not the problem and no matter how much you do for your mom she will never be happy with you because she isn’t happy with herself.
That mom is such a Narcissist!
I hate it when parents can't just admit when they are wrong,instead of apologising the make us feel shitty.
100%!
Exactly !!!
Exactly
Serious, my African mum behavior is similar to this but she's calming down. They over love their children
Thank you!!! Sigh
It was so sad to see jeanie break down like she did. She was completely right and her mom was refusing to understand her or see her point of view from her ego. What her mom did i hope is not an ongoing cycle because that is toxic and unhealthy
This video reminds me so much about my relationship between me and my mom. Cried the whole time you guys were talking.
Sending Jeannie a virtual hug. I saw a little girl crying and trying to reason with her mother and I could imagine the exhaustion she was experiencing. ❤❤
Yes 🙌🏼
It’s very crazy. I cried
This had me in tears. I’m going to be honest. I don’t think I can look at Mama Mai the same. She keeps letting you down, your childhood, not believing you, and constantly putting you at the bottom of the totem pole. I know I’m just some stranger from the internet, but I truly wish you weren’t hurting. As a mum myself there’s nothing more important to me than my son knowing he is loved.
Mama Mai needs to get help.
All the love in the world to you Jeannie.
why cant ppl just let others go, someone like that isnt good for ur mental health
@@sophieeel4478 absolutely. I’m finding it all very triggering.
Understand that mama Mai is damaged too... probably in so many ways that even she is unable to identify the error in her ways as a mother. Pray for healing on both ends 🙏
Well said
Yes this reminds me of the relationship I have with my mom, very toxic, and constantly heartbreaking.
Thank you for sharing. This was heartbreaking to watch, I feel all the emotions. I’m sorry this is your reality, I hope she comes around. Old school mentality.
Jeannie, my heart breaks for you. I struggle with my mom and this brought up so many feelings for me. Thank you for sharing and showing your REAL life. I've loved you since How Do I Look and I hope you and Mamma Mai can reconcile and I pray that she can find it in her heart to put her pride aside and acknowledge your feelings. Love you and congratulations on your marriage to Jay! You looked stunning. Peace and Blessings, Emily
Can you see how Dennis was so afraid to say what he thought and was even trying to police Jeannies language to accommodate their mothers temper? Signs of a child that grew up in an abusive environment
He was just trying to tell her not to yell and curse at their mom in order to not escalate the discussion. He was brought there to deescalate, after all. Not really policing language
ANYONE WHO DOES NOT HAVE A NARCISSIST PARENT WILL NEVER EVER UNDERSTAND THE HURT SHES DOING TO JEANNIE AND EVERYONE IN THEIR LIFE
Oh my God so true
That’s the hardest part about having a narcissist parent , nobody will ever understand unless they have one too
Yup! Even she said that they where there for her not Jeannie. My mom made even my wedding about her. Narcissist parents think everything is about them. They can’t have one day about someone else. Anywhere they go it’s about them.
Exactly.
I said the same! I have this same.problem and i said in the comments that she is narcissist! The pain is something else but i really believe Jeannie handles it really well
You guys are so cute! I enjoy that you share the things that every family experiences from time to time. 😍
Prayers to you and the fam! Peace and love 💕🙏🏼
Shout out and hugs to women whose mother's will NEVER fully accept us, no matter what we do.
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That's ok as long as you love and respect yourself!
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I know the pain very well😓
Jeannie can yell and scream until she’s blue in the face trying to get her point across, but Mama Mai does not strike me as one who would ever admit fault, sincerely apologize or respect boundaries going forward. Sometimes a little distance between the two can be the best thing.
Yes her mother is ungrateful
Yelling and screaming definitely will not help the situation. It’ll make Mama Mai feel antagonized and would get defensive, which is exactly what happened. If Jeannie calmly showed Mama Mai that she understood where she was coming from, and related it to what Jeannie wanted from Mama Mai, then that would’ve made Mama Mai feel more comfortable and actually admit her own wrongs
@@mannygene5545 I understand what you said and I absolutely agree but it seems like this will be a recurring issue which can be very toxic and exhausting. Why should a human being be so difficult?!?!
They already had their distance for 8 years. They can't possible always leave to take a "break"
@@mannygene5545 you never grew up with a vietnamese mom and it shows lol. no matter how jeanie would say it she would get gaslighted. her mom is just using the excuse that because she's yelling it's an additional reason why it's jeanie's fault
jeannie, I really hope your family has an amazing christmas this year! there are lots of people out there with a relationship like yours and your mums. congratulations on the new baby princess ❤️
p.s I think it will be a boy 🥳
This breaks my heart, truly. Seeing your mother getting this heated over such a trivial thing as being wrong is really upsetting. This is a prime example of narcissistic behaviour, rather being right than doing right, and this is not healthy. I am so sorry, and I hope you don't take my thoughts as an attack on your mother, but I feel for you.
I'll add that I lost my grandmother in COVID in late January, which makes this hit home. She wasn't a partier, she just had one caregiver at her house daily to help her make food. It takes one person outside of your group. Two couples are plenty too many to jeopardize safety and a COVID death in the family tears the family apart. My grandmother died alone at the hospital and we had to say our goodbyes on Facetime, watching her gasping for air. This is not fine.
Personally, I think that this video showcases something that a lot of Asian children go through. It's ingrained in our heads from the moment we were born to respect our elders and that they are always higher than us. However, when the elders do not respect us back, it's hard for us to keep our heads low and accept their criticism. We're not asking them to bow down to us, all we're asking is for them to consider our feelings and treat us like valid human beings. I do not want to over step any boundaries but I do believe that Mama Mai is becoming more egotistic. From what Dennis said, she yells at her kids all the time in front of other people. But once her daughter yells at her in front of other people, it is unacceptable and she will not accept any apology unless Jeannie bows down to her. It's this unbalanced dynamic and how "It's ok if I do it because I'm older than you but once you do it, it's wrong" that is so frustrating to watch.
Edit: Thank you for all the likes and comments. I just want to point out that by reading a lot of your replies, this seems like a common thing in multiple cultures. I specifically put Asian because I am Chinese myself. I didn't want misrepresent any ethnicities or cultures but it is interesting to see the similarities in hardships that multiple ethnicities go through.
Ditto
Amen. I’m hurting and frustrated for Jeannie.
I agree with this! As another vietnamese it's so hard to talk about about feelings and be comfortable without being shut down and ignored with asian parents.😔
And old school black moms and kids. I can relate to this. Parents want you to stay 5 years old even when you’re fully grown. I understand what you’re saying
Yes exactly. Very true and very frustrating. I've been in that position several times.
its JEANNIES ENGAGEMENT DINNER.. SHE SHOULD BE COMFORTABLE NOT RANDOM FRIENDS OF MAMMA MAI.. HELLOOO!
MAMMA MAI DOESNT ACCEPT THAT SHES IN THE WRONG . BUT LOVES TO HATE ON JEANNIE.
Who brings guest to another person's dinner? Covid or no covid. I can't imagine inviting 4 people over to dinner in they stroll in with 4 of their own friends. Ohhhh they never get invited anywhere , so surprise!!!! I would freak tf out
Narcissism
www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/narcissistic-parents-literally-incapable-loving-083023855.html.
Jeannie mai swhrt ,Maama Mai should read this.I love you both but I believe you are better off without her.
@@numbernine3436 agree, even if COVID wasn’t involved, what mama Mai did was f up.
When Jeannie broke down it made me cry too. Mother and daughter relationships could be so complicated and it’s so sad when you can’t find that common ground to fix things especially when there’s genuine love for one another. I wish them both the best. ❤️
Damn when Jeannie cried I cried. I feel her frustration; there was a real communication breakdown there and that was sad.
I feel her as an Asian... Asian culture expects us to respect our elders even though we aren’t given the same respect... Jeannie standing up for herself makes me feel like she’s standing up for me as well... thank you Jeannie 😭❤️
Black culture as well. Always justified tho because the Bible says to honor father and mother.
Black culture as well girl .... the only culture I know don’t do that is white
@@BabyHarmony100 but the same Bible speak about parents not perplexing children to
@@seriouslyskylartv6789 exactly had to give this scripture to my father who constantly uses the Bible to justify his behavior towards me.
@@seriouslyskylartv6789 yeah all the families that I know that are like this are not white.
Mama Mai has so much pride it’s scary, she’d rather lose her relationship with her husband, her daughter, everyone than admit she’s wrong. This remind me of me and my mother tbh. Mama Mai is so toxic and self-saboteur.
That’s a lot of Vietnamese old women tbh. My grandmother is the same
Hey...not to be in your business but what did u do about your mum? My mother...good God. She will start trouble and drama just bc I haven’t spoken to her in a damn day...she is always right. I’ve been called bitch and some more shit.
I've cut off my family members who were giving me a headache during this covid because it just brought up all the toxic bullshit they have put me through my entire life. If you're being a narcissist when I'm trying to protect you during a pandemic? Get out of my life.
@@moniqueharrison316 think of the person you care about most in the world. What would you tell them to do if someone was being abusive to them?
Praying for your relationship Jeannie. Sweet Mama Mai needs to respect your boundaries. You are a beautiful sovereign soul, remember that. And keep shining bright.
Jeannie u are a jem... I love that while u are sharing apart of ur life with us...I appreciate the respect of u guys talking things out...u are a great daughter...n believe me I understand!!!
I literally cried when Jeannie started crying. This is so heartbreaking. I hope her mom realises and owns up to her mistakes too before she loses a daughter who loves her so much.
Right
Who the hell cancels Christmas!
The fact of the matter: You embarrassed Mama Mai infront of your dad's girlfriend and she can't get pass that...simple.
Her narcissism is also pushing this further than it has to go.
That’s exactly what happened.
Exactly
So freaking true!it's not about Jeannie speaking up it's that she did it in front of her dad's girlfriend &he ego has her in her feelings
Agree!👏🏼
Love Mama Mai and Jeannie’s relationship when they’re getting along lol but yas 👏🏼 to this comment! Glad that this very relatable experience was shared on the channel as so many moms/daughters can relate myself included. Dennis brought up a good point about the difference he can see in their Mom’s demeanor since she has gained popularity over the years. Jeannie’s feelings were 100 % valid and as the convo went on you can see Mama Mai was too prideful to say she felt embarrassed being called out in front of her ex’s girlfriend from the start.
Came back to watch this because I am in this space with my mother right now & my heart is bleeding but I thank God for salvation, I still see her with eyes of love & I am growing in the fruits of the Spirit. It came to memory to watch this episode & the rest following on this matter.
My heart is melting. Thankyou for being vulnerable in front of the world Jeannie mai❤❤
The fact that it was Jeannies engagement party throws me off. Like how are you gonna disrespect Jeannies and her fiancé’s wishes to keep it a small close family party during the pandemic. It’s an engagement party not a birthday party. It’s a special time. Now this is what is going to be remembered.
The part where she said then you shouldn't have attended it..I mean, it's her engagement and she has to decide who she wants to attend,Mama Mai is petty and needs to change
Because her mom is a narcissist and had to make it about her of course
Thats what I said!!!
@@Mindian29 Agreed!!! That's just darn sad!!
@@Mindian29 ugh sadly this is a lot of parents when there is an event like a wedding. You'll invite the people close to you but mom wants to invite the entire church congregation cause to her it's not about celebrating with people who are close. It's about this being her chance to shine and show off lol.
Mama Mai said some pretty hurtful things... #😢
And in Her caption on IG for her post about this video... it’s terrible tbh 😢💔
SO MANY hurtful things!
She's like her dad in a way and she has said it before
"I stay away of you I feel more healthy...more happy" I was literally shocked... that even hurt me and I am not related to them...
We just see Mama Mai's Tru colors
Damn Mama Mai just hurt my feelings with the way she acted... I didn’t see this coming, I didn’t know she was such a narcissist. Jeannie is such a strong daughter and woman because I completely get this... Sending Jeannie a virtual hug❤️
This made me sad for both of them, I love how jeannie opens up & makes an effort to resolve. She's trying to break generational curses but mama mai doesn't think she's wrong. I would like to see them have these convos in vietnamese & see if mama mai explains herself better or if she has better reaction. I hope you two can work it out
I feel sad for Jeannie because I feel like her mom is going to ruin her marriage with Jay. The way he chooses to side with her mom (out of respect because she’s the elder whether she’s right or wrong) will eventually lead Jeannie to resent him.
I agree but praying we're wrong
I don’t think so, I think he’s a great addition because he’s there to explain both sides to each of them. And maybe explain to Mama Mai when she’s wrong but he’s the mediator.
Please don't let that mom ruin ur beautiful relationship!
THEY BOTH ON BS.
Oh nooooo The blood of Jesus over their union !!! I hope it doesn’t ruin their relationship at all . Imma be praying for them
So glad Dennis jumped on the call...he really eased off the tension..
Only for a bit though.
it got alot worse tho
It got worse big time
It's refreshing to see you here Zee 😍
He tried... but Mama Mai wasn't willing to listen to him either, smh.
I am so glad that you and Mama Mai worked through this, so that we can celebrate TODAY!! Waste Nothing!!!!!
My parents are immigrants from Mexico and man this hit home… My siblings and I have such an estranged relationship with them both and it absolutely drains the life out of us. They can never be wrong and they can never say sorry or take accountability for anything. I absolutely love my mom and I want to cherish and adore her but she makes it so hard when she gaslights us and acts petty :( if she’s in a bad mood she makes sure to ruin the day for all of us or make it extremely awkward for us to even be together as a family. There’s always some kind of tension and my siblings and I are all grown now and not once has my mom or dad said sorry or try to see us on our level. It’s sad how we had to suffer through emotional abuse, pick up all the broken pieces, somehow lift ourselves back up and grow, and on top of that we managed to undercover their deep routed traumas. We were able to sit down and realize and feel sympathy for our parents for their experiences growing up. But they can’t do the same for us. It’s just hard trying to be respectful and loving when they make it so hard
When Mama Mai told Jeannie she wanted her to “bow down” to her with an apology............chillllleeeeee. Mama is petty as hell. Jeannie has forgiven sooooo much. She’s been so big about so many hard topics. When Jeannie cried, I cried too. Mama Mai made me sad with her actions. When Jeannie said “you probably don’t even want a daughter like me” and Mama agreed......smh it reminded me of my relationship with my mom. I hope Jeannie is ok, she looks so sad. Mama Mai wouldn’t be who she is now without Jeannie and it’s definitely gone to her head. #TeamJeannie.
I think the bow down part is because of their culture. To bow down means yours sorry and your apologizing
So true,it's really painful how she just can't see that she is wrong.The self entitlement is a bit too much #TeamJeannie
Mama Mai was embarrassed by Jeannie yelling at her but she’s not embarrassed by her behavior here? THIS is what I would be embarrassed about if I were her :/ it’s pretty clear there’s some deep rooted issues here with Mama Mai
There really is... Probably from her traumatic childhood she had because of her father. Towards the end this was hard to watch.
vengeful
Just when it started to get better mama mail tells her she is healthier happier without her .. my heart broke for Jeannie.. glad to see them doing better🙏🏻❤️
It’s hard to say, because you’re Mom is your Mom & even know they are not right all the time They do deserve our respect.
We only have one Mom & one day they won’t be here, so sometimes it’s better to forgive and forget & move forward in a
Positive direction. ♥️🙏🏻
My dad just passed from covid, he was healthy, strong, young. Thank you Jeannie for taking covid seriously 😔
So sorry for your loss. Blessings to you and your family as we move forward in this pandemic and I hope you stay safe + healthy. 🙏🏽
I’m sorry for your loss. This virus is the devil.
@@Pookieluvie thank you so much.
@@marcialinde5896 yes it really is. :( thank you.
@Jane Kitenye thank you :( it really is awful and shocking
This was sooooo triggering. She’s gaslighting you and her narcissism is going to suffocate you. You need distance from her. My heart breaks for you Jeannie. I’m so sorry you have to go through this.
Omg Jeannie I'm so proud of you for speaking up for yourself it's so hard in the Asian culture to speak up to your parents but that definitely needs to change. You give respect you get respect PERIOD. She's so in her own little world that she didn't understand a word you said. Mama Mai needs help badly.
Haitian culture 🇭🇹🇭🇹🇭🇹is the same if not worst 😫😫😫
Jeannie honestly has the right to be mad, she's honestly trying to protect her mom.
regardless if Jeannie knew those people, she specifically said that she ddidn't want them there, you guys don't know if they've been quarantined or not. COVID or no COVID, it was their engagement dinner and her wishes should have been respected. With covid, proper precautions should have absolutely been taken and respected for Jeannie 100%. Mama mai wants to yell at jeannie for what she did but doesn't want to acknowledge WHYYYYYY she was upset in the first place. Her response saying she won't go to the wedding is SO petty and toxic. praying for jeannie.
Remember in previous videos when Mama Mai admitted to not protecting Jeanie when she was a little girl when she was molested, mama is overcompensating now that Jeanie is a grown up Mama Mai hasn't dealt with that
@@GameOn71213 don't go there. She already said she didn't know how to handle it. "Let sleeping dogs lie"
@@lorainecodrington5721 but I don't think it's sleeping for Mama Mai, I think she's still very angry at herself
I couldn't have said it better
agreed, if mama Mai misses wedding it's her loss..she'll regret it
This actually made me cry because it’s exactly how my mom and I communicate. Every time I call her out on something - big or small - she acts like a child, gets defensive, says I’m being “bossy” or “aggressive”, plays the victim card. It’s not fair and it’s not right. I’m an adult and want to talk things through and get to the root of the problem calmly and maturely but we never get that far because of how my mom reacts. Makes my heart hurt for Jeannie knowing what she has to go through with her mom - especially in this situation where Jeannie is clearly in the right.
This is my life too. 😢
O go through that as well
Yup
Girl what your talking about I’ve gone thru, I am now on my second year of weekly counseling and thru my hours of working on myself, my counselor has made me realize that my mom may never change even though I have and that’s okay. I have to come to terms that I may never have successful communication ever, it’s not my responsibility to do so, you can only control what you do. My mom comes from
Mexico and they are very much about respecting your elders. But she also has to understand that I am an adult as well and have the right to look out for my own mental health and it’s hard to hear hard truths but they are
My truths
Oh my god me too. I’m in so much tears because my daughter plays this card way too much.
This reminds me so much of me and my daughter. For years I was petty about things and so was she. We'd get mad at each other, and not see each other, one time we went 9 months, yes 9 months. Til I made the decision to Stop that. Just stop. I think the Mom has to step up and make a change for them. If you see something you get mad about take a moment, don't say anything,then later talk about when it's just you 2 alone. Also sometimes it can be such things that are so childish. Jeannie please don't get mad at me, but when we get older we think different and act different. Mama look at her, she is really scared for your health, plus you could take a page out her book. You love each other so much and remember one of you could not be here tomorrow. Love you 2
I cannot control the way I am just balling, boohoo crying after seeing this. I had seen posts about your fight, and clips but I couldn't watch bc of how triggering it was to me. I finally got the courage to watch this heart breaking moment and when Jeannie finally breaks down and says, "you probably don't even want a daughter like me" right after Mama Mai says, "I'm not gonna talk to you anymore"...I could no longer hold in my own pain bc I have had the exact same argument with my mom, and my sisters have had the same fight with her before me. I felt it in my soul when Jeannie finally broke, bc I have been in that same place.. and I completely agree with Jeannie about asian culture. As a Filipina, honoring and respecting our elders is something I am very prideful of, but the shift from respecting them to being them and expecting a certain level of respect, to expect your children to "bow down". I have heard those same words, my mother tells me all the time, "You don't know any better than me, you don't talk to me that way! I am already going home, you are just getting there" I am very glad that Jeannie was able to get her mom to go to therapy and fix the problems, I unfortunately still deal with the months of radio silence until we are forced into a room together or something as crazy as me getting COVID for her to come around and speak to me.
Jeannie's patience in this whole thing is ADMIRABLE. I could see the hurt and the pain.
#prayforjeanniemai
I want to understand where Jeanie is coming from but she is literally yelling at her mom and dropping the Fbomb. The brother stepped in to say let's not curse around mom. I also don't watch this channel much so I'm not sure if the yelling is normal to them but it was hard to follow. I hope part two they can talk calmly to one another.
@@bellaapple2166 but she did do just that until her mom kept bringing up the same thing over and over again after she has apologised several times for the same thing. Her mom even said after all of the apologising she wouldn’t accept it. So that’s not Jeannie’s fault for yelling at her mom because she had kept her patience for far too long and her mom has gotten the fans that she has because of Jeannie in the first place.
I know right? I would’ve closed my laptop 15 minutes in & called it a day.
What patience are you talking about????
Jay casually walking by at 18:49 like “Imma grab me a snack and stay TF outta this” lmaooooo 💀💀💀
Jeanie you need to be more sensitive to your mother's feelings. She's easily embarrassed address her privately when you have an issue with her. Mama Mai you need to respect Jeanie's boundaries. She said no extra people. Respect her wishes. She's an adult now ,even though she's your daughter you still need to respect her.
Sometimes you have to have a witness/mediator otherwise you can be manipulated
So similar to my relationship with my Mom. They love each other so much but they are way more alike than they would like to admit. I hate when my mom leaves the room or makes something about her, but sometimes I do the same thing. They will get through this just fine.
Truly, it’s not about if “Jeannie Won” or “Mama Mai won”. Nobody wins when hate, pride and tears is taking place.
This is very heartbreaking.
I am praying for everyone involved.
I genuinely feel like mama mai knows that she’s wrong in the situation but doesn’t want to admit it.. maybe cuz that how she was raised and she doesn’t know how to say sorry especially in a family situation.. i love mama mai but that attitude was so toxic and hurtful, she’s not even helping at all.. sometimes its ok to love parents from a distance.
That is absolutely the case. Mama mai knows she is wrong. She said one time she should not have invited them but still did the round about and said but you started fire. She will never admit her wrongs and will continue this behavior. It is sad
Jeannie also speaks very disrespectfully. Who calls their mother “this woman right here.” Jeannie was right. She had the right restrict people at HER engagement dinner. But Jeanine also needs to learn how to speak with more respect to get respect back
Tell that to my parents.
I absolutely agree with this. I'm with Jeannie. Its like talking to a wall with her mom.
@@lauralarrabee7870 true yes, but Jeannie is her Mothers Daughter so she would have some of Mumma Mai traits, but at least Jeannie is trying to change and heal and grow
I am so blessed to have a mother who respects my boundaries and respects me and my choices. I see so many moms act like mama Mai it’s toxic hurtful and not fair for their daughters
I have a toxic mother as well. Haven't spoken to her since i was 17 and I'll be 29 this yeat and i intend to keep it that way. Somethimes the best thing some parents can do is : choose to walk away from us.
It used to hurt...but ive been through so much...that i became numb at some point... but God sees me through
The sad part is she won't ever change. From the sound of it everyone caters to her toxicity... Even Jay. She guilt trips the family into doing what she wants. Sad af
Yes she is toxic af
BRAVO
COVID or no COVID, do not invite people to an event that’s not yours.
Exactly!! You do not have the right to invite other people when it’s not your party. If anything ask the host first if it is ok and let them know you wanted to respect them and ask first.
unless u r specifically allowed to bring a "plus one".... otherwise, its VERY tacky
But it's her mom's house right?
@@sabahfirdous1742 I don’t know, but still doesn’t give her the right.
@@sabahfirdous1742 yeah, I do think Jeannie said the event was at the Mom's house or another immediate family members'
My mom is the same way I’m sorry you have to deal with this! I think your underlying issue is the split you guys had in the past. Issues like that don’t go away they resurface in different situations
I love this..NOW THIS WHAT YOU CALL THE REAL..THANKS FAMILY FOR YOUR IMPERFECTIONS WE A FAN OF YOU ALL..
I had a problem with mama when she didn't believe Jeannie about getting abused by a family member. She seems to be in denial aaaaa lot... Also knows no boundaries. Dennis did not help at all.
I do agree with what you said and not to give excuses or anything, but I think in the older sibling vs parents big argument it's not as effective to have a younger sibling trying to mediate (if that was the intention), as it is more stressful and intimidating. Compared to younger sibling vs parents and have an older sibling trying to mediate the argument. I'm just saying this from observation and being the oldest sibling of three :)
There’s issues that need to be dealt with. She embarrassed she was yelled at and can’t let it go. I hope you two can resolve it!
Yo. She really got up and walked to the door when Jeannie said "Leave"...the call 😂💀💀