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@@kinman3051I love the fact that Ben has Alien X. Basically that means no matter how dire things get, in the end he will save the day. However, in a VS Battles setting it's very boring how people just default to Alien X against semi-powerful verses, when you could always make it more interesting by taking Alien X from him or even taking a few other powerhouses like Feedback, Clockwork and even Way Big. He doesn't even need those a lot of the time anyways. He has many haxes and insane lines of scaling.
Alien X makes it boring, and with all the other aliens he has access to and the other abilities of the Omnitrix, he has more than enough ways to deal with most opponents.
@@ImPowerAngel bro you just made me imagine him running as fast as he can as XLR8 and turning into an alien like armadrillo or four arms to smack the goofy outa some one the worst part is that he CAN do that and he was allready thinking of stuff like that at age 10
@@togeluga_the_catyou could even do big chill can go intangible inside them, and then boom diamondhead. Hell you could do the nanomech thing where he goes up their a-
Even Without Alien X, Ben has so many OP Aliens Feedback: Absorbed the Big Bang (calculated at complex multiversal thanks to the Ben 10 cosmology) Way Big: Casual planet buster, who can hurt an extra dimensional Cthulu like monster named Dagon and Way Big was stated to survive attacks from a solar system destroying weapon Upchuck: Absorbed energy 20x more powerful than a star and can eat planets canonically Big Chill: can freeze over the Null Void (a dimension) Clockwork: can reset Multiversal destruction Jetray: can travel hyperspace with casual ease Chromastone: can absorb stars
There's a problem with most of these examples, and that's the fact that they're plain wank. 1. Feedback's feat isn't Multiversal. It's universal max. 2. Waybig needs his Ultimate Form to even hurt Dagon. Which Prime Ben doesn't have. Only his Ultimatrix variant possessed. 3. Upchucks can only eat a planet over time. Not instantly. They're not planetary. 4. Big Chill also isn't Dimensional-Tier since we know he can only accomplish such a feat after a while. Just like "Planetary Upchuck" Clockwork can't reset Multiversal destruction. He reset the effects of a weapon that killed people within a small area. And that doesn't speak anything or translate to his AP/DC.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b The Ben 10 cosmology has been revised further, meaning that Feedbacks feat is far more impressive than it actually is Albedo Way Big can casually vaporize planets giving him Dwarf Star Level to Star Level AP, hell it was stated that Way Big can survive attacks that can level Solar System, Evil Way Big can cover the entire planet with a cosmic storm, Way Big even in base has MFTL plus combat speed Upchuck ate a ball of energy denser and more potent than a star in the OG series Also Clockwork literally reset that, considering the Ben 10 counterparts returned back again after being erased
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5bUniversal annihilarg?LoL Annihilarg universes at Least 1c to h1b/ Waybig scale to humungousaur,hg can destroying 2 light years With entropy pump feat / Still at Least Multi continent level feat / "Dimensional tier"siskakwkakqkwmw bro literally froze the size in less than 5 minutes not for years /You literally made it clear you didn't watch the show
"Kamehameha!" "Getsuga Tenshou!" "Rasenshuriken!" "Gomu Gomu no Red Roc!" "Karyu no Hokö!" *_(Feedback absorbs it all and makes a planet sized electroball)_* "See ya!" Master control is assumed of course.
Even without master control been only ever gets a different alien than he thinks he chose because of user error. He would legitimately just have to actually pay attention to what he's doing and he would instantly level up by a ton.
As a fan of Ben 10 from Classic to Omniverse I thank you so much for taking about more than just Alien X as Ben has so many more interesting and strong aliens
@@gameuniverse5973 Dude what? Clockwork, Way Big,Atomic can create stars, Upchuck literally ate energy 20 times more potent than the sun, and they canonically are able to eat a planet. Way Big destroyed a planet with casual ease and scales to a weapon which can destroy a Solar System and above Agreggor, who can survive attacks which can span lightyears away, Chromastone can absorb stars, Feedback can consume the Big Bang which would have destroyed the cosmos aka Complex Multiversal Level
Ben's biggest advantage is not even the intensity of his powers, it's that he has a lot of variety. The Omnitrix in alien force was said to have 1 million 900 and something alien species available at total. And if HEATBLAST can have star level power, Ben's full arsenal is CRAZY.
Ichigo: It's OK guys, we got this. I'm a Shinigami, Arrancar, Fullbringer and Quincy! Ben using the Omnitrix scanner: Guess I'm all of those, too, now Edit: OK this was a joke comment but I'm settling this so I stop getting these replies. The omnitrix can turn into anything with genetic variations. Quincies and fullbringers being human doesn't matter. Soul reapers and Arrancars supposedly not having DNA is bullshit. They all bleed, have genetic traits passed down within families, and can reproduce. Don't even try and tell me that they don't have DNA. That is a lie, and you know it.
@saadabdullah5786 the omnitrix can copy Quincies and Fullbringers. It can copy any genetic variation of any species as shown by the Upchuck subspecies episode of Omniverse. Quincies and Fullbringers would just be classed as subspecies by the Omnitrix and then boom, Ben is now Lasertip and Upscale
@@kanemccarthy1979 not shinigami or arrancar tho, tho species made out of entirely different matter-reishi, not normal matter like molecule so i don't thing the Omnitrix can scan it. Ghost freak is made out of normal matter incase you wonder, it's not the same.
@VietNguyen-mf4wh I mean what about aliens that are mechanical in nature? The omnitrix includes the DNA of what is essentially just energy with a consciousness. Mechamorphs are literally an artificial species. I see no reason why being made of Reishi makes them unscannable when the Omnitrix can scan and replicate every other kind of being, even ones that are mechanical and mineral based
I'm glad you talked about the other Aliens, I get Alien X is ridiculously OP but Ben has other forms too and I feel people use Alien X in battles where he isn't needed lol
Tell me about it, like you put him in versus battles where you know he doesn't have to use him, but all you get in the comments is 'Alien X solos', like there's at least a dozen other aliens he's used that can get the job done
"PLEASE BEN, WE NEED THIS! You are kind of the Goat, Hero of the Multiverse and we need this for our fans!" Kevin: "Yo, bro, I am watching your stream, why the fuck are you laughing? That is disrespectful as fuck!"
I knew Ben was broken but i didn't know he was this broken. Like holy crap. And whats even scarier is the forms in this video are the more "low/common tier fighters".
Nope the aliens he mentioned is Ben's high tier fighters. There are more high tier aliens he didn't mention and it is Ghostfreak, gravattack, guttrot and Big Chill
@@bringiton4drago371 have you even watched Ben10? Being a superhero series should already tell you how big and straightforward the scaling is gonna be.
Speed feats XLR8 freezing time during a baseball game Jetray going through hyperspace Albedo Waybig traveling all the way to earth in cosmic destruction (mind you he was already outside of the milkyway galaxy) and Ben's waybig should scale relative
@@Tylearned it's an alternate timeline I believe, kinda like Gwen getting the omnitrix back in Gwen 10. But the scaling should still hold as it only took Albedo a week at the max to get there, and as omniverse shows, all Ben are somewhat relative to each other
@@Tylearned It's not canon but it's been stated that every alt universe in Ben 10 basically scales back to the Prime Universe because all of their omnitrix's work the same. Same goes for Albedo. So any feat performed by Ben in one of the games can be used to scale Prime Ben (besides any of the 3 Ben 10,000's)
Never seen someone dig into the feats of Ben 10 like this but I love it especially the speed feats section. Ben’s aliens really are scaling on some high end levels of fiction!
@@Tylearned also another thing I was surprised by was that you didn't talk about feedback and his speed scaling like how he reacted to Malware's tachyon blaster or how his species can casually traverse a nebula
for some reason i was thinking about just malware and how much of menace he was "you could wipe out every human within 100 miles, maybe even more" " *A BONUS* " and Feedback just cassualy absorbs the Tachyon Cannon blast wich can destroys your whole genetic code
@@Tylearned Ty I need you to do something important. Scale my goat Uncle grandpa. With the games comics and the show. He can get to near outer if we take into account him being more powerful than the entire CN multiverse
@@4thswagkage well.. Ben10 is American. So it's mostly gonna be fights over narrative compared to most Japanese media. Due to so much drama put into the big 3, it'd be pretty difficult for them to even comprehend Ben.
12:30 now I’m just imagining cannonbolt that just starts rolling and just crashing into everything and 1 shots everything in the verse and it’s helarious
Ben is so underrated people forget that with the ultimatrix he could theoretically steal the dna of a Saiyan and the ultamtrix eill modify it to make him the peak of what the race could be "normally" so without crazy training and shit so he can basically just kake his own ssj4 theoretically and correct me if im wrong but this version if ben can merge aliens as well so he coukd make a saiyan hybrid the duee is so busted i love him so much
you’re mixing up bens by a bit, but yeah. UA Ben could scan a saiyan and make a hyper-evolved variant that would be stupidly powerful considering saiyan biology.
@@mercurian_witch sorry for that I didn't mean too, aren't all the beans apart of the same timeline or no? It's been a longggg time since I watched the show
@@cosmicvoid239 Kinda, each series ben has a different future version since meeting their future selves changes the timeline, Omniverse Ben 10k is the only ben who has it.
@@mercurian_witch Not only that, a normal saiyan evolving would be dangerous but the base omnitrix already makes it peak version of the species (To the point where he was an alien where the women are biologically stronger and he was still stronger then them.) So bare minimum he would have been Broly level just from transforming and then on top of that that Broly level alien would have been put in a combat simulation for thousands of years to evolve into its ultimate form!
Bro I feel like people really don't know how strong Ben really is. Even without Alien X Ben has aliens like Atomix, who is a living nuclear facility, Feedback who absorbed the BIG Bang, Way Big, who can travel through a space storm and fire cosmic rays, being able to hurt a being made of pure energy, and Ghostfreak... Who's a literal ghost, and the omnitrix just doesn't let him die. The Worst could probably solo cause he's just never gonna take enough damage, clockwork who controls time itself, and chroma stone who can absorb all forms of energy, has an indestructible body, and is able to destroy stars with ease. But that really also makes you wonder, how the hell did Azmuth get all these alien DNA samples? Like did he go to the forge of creation to get Alien X? And don't even try and argue that they can destroy the omnitrix, it's indestructible, it would transform Ben before anything could happen and the only way it was ever destroyed was with the self destruction feature
@@FireArtVids21Not really, the reason why the omnitrix would explode like that is because of the build up, in the alien force finale, ben self destructed the omnitrix for less than 1 minute and it only blew up the omnitrix while in the movie “secret of the omnitrix”, the self destruct has been building up, and if ben transforms, the build up of the self destruct goes faster, so if ben wanted to, he can activate the self destruct for 96 hours, spam transformation, and do a kamikaze for the funny
I think it was implied that Paradox got the Alien X DNA sample for Asmuth which may have also been the reason behind why he was banned from ever getting close to the Forge of creation
@@w3mp732 Well Omnitrix can't be destroyed by someone other than Ben or Azmuth. And When vilgax transformed into swampfore the alien force Omnitrix didn't speed up the self destruction. That's a retcon it seems.
As a Ben 10 fan who's casually into power scaling, I'm SOOOO glad you mention aliens beside Alien X. The appeal of Ben 10 is his utility and diversity in his power set. A jack of all trades sort of character. Seeing him be reduced to just one form in Vs fights is annoying and pointless. This character has plenty of feats, abilities, and hax that rarely get brought up. That's kind of the point of Kuro's "Why Ben could beat..." video. To highlight Ben's true strength and to dispel the misconceptions.
Ten year old Ben's XLR8 was fast enough to make time stop around him, and if we included Ben 10,000 feats, he used XLR8 to patrol the entire planet in only 5 seconds
And he never did it again, was getting tagged and reacted to by everyone in the series and in the same scene was slower than the frames of a hand held camera that Gwen used, about ben 10k, it's said he was patrolling the planet continuously but 5 seconds?, XLR8 max speed is officially 888 m/h.
kyogoku is a also a pocket dimension that exists everywhere in bleach and a fullbringer named riruka literally stuffed the entire pocket dimension into her box and then yukio modifying the said dimension using his ability and this said guy can also create his own pocket dimension outta nothing
"I knew that the Omnitrix had a failsafe that wouldn't let me die; and sure enough, it kicked in right before the Big Bang started. It always gives me the right alien, even if I want something else." - Ben, in the finale of the series.
4:50 look, I'll admit its been a hot second since I watched omniverse, but I'm pretty sure the only reason it would take down the other timelines is because the big bang would alter the prime timeline, so it affects the other timelines butterfly effect style and not pure powerwise
No it is power based, but more so design then raw AP because this was in a branched Timeline known as No Watch Ben where the events of Prime Ben getting the Omnitrix doesn't actually happen
Thing is, the idea that you can just upscale a character above Blackbeard who CLAIMS his gravity had the intensity of a black hole just does not work. In the anime it took about 4 seconds for Ace to get pulled into his Kurouzu, which uses the same power. They were roughly 10 meters apart and the average 6'1" person weights around 90 KG. To figure out the force used in that pull is quite simple, it's just: mass_kg = 90 distance_m = 10 time_s = 4 acceleration_m_per_s2 = 2 * distance_m / (time_s ^ 2) force_n = mass_kg * acceleration_m_per_s2 = 112.5 newtons of force per second Quite simply, if Blackbeard could produce infinite gravity, he'd of beaten Ace the second he grabbed hold of him, let's be real, it was hyperboly.
pesky dust is pretty op in my opinion the dude can manipulate dreams and mfs slept on this alien (pun intented) like do you know what this alien can make you dream of? he could give you that "i have no mouth and i must scream" ass nightmare dreams literally have some sort of time dilation
Honestly ichigo probably the only one outta the big 3 u can properly scale to multiversal due to everything taking place in multiple dimensions and some of em being higher planes of existence n stuff but don’t really matter due to how absurdly powerful Ben’s aliens are on average anyway especially wit the omnitrix just gonna transform Ben when he’s off guard regardless 😂
ichigo at a mid ball would be like multi galaxy no? i just feel like calling him uni or higher is inacurate since hes not on the same level of power yhwach is.
@@misterjjoseph3501 oh! Yhwach himself said his trye Bankai is Too strong for even him to handel That's why he was scared of it, Imagine That😮 Ichigo is High Multiversal level and it's been appropriately established by facts in show and Kubo(author)
The scalling for bleach is consistent on being Galaxy to Multi-Galaxy Level and for Naruto's Baryon Mode it should be around Multi-Solar System Level and for Current Luffy Small Planetary Level should be accurate. And for Ben 10, scalling you did really good. I 100% believe in the outcome that Ben will one shot all of the Big 3. To be clear, the scalling I talked about the Big 3 are their High-Ball scalling.
lowkey i personally think pre baryon mode naruto was already at solar system due to kaguyas dimensions already containing planets and stars in them, indicating the presence of a solar system. and the novelization saying a story on how momoshiki ate a solar system. id say luffy would be at best planetary if you really push his strongest attack to that level or maybe star if you go with the op world being the size of the sun. ichigo accurately is at multi galaxy just because he can injure yhwach who is uni+, but ichigo is nowhere near yhwachs lvl so multi galaxy is accurate.
Watch a decent power scaleing video that scales referencing Manga, It's clearly mentioned, shinigami (Death Gods) in Bleach are already Universal level at base, (gods), Soul King is progenitor level existence since, His power was used to create different universes, making him Transcendental Multiversal Level, ...Yhwach (soul King's son) was established to be Causal level, since his power can see the future, so his thoughts are beyond Time, so... and he stated to destroy all existence to dissolve them into one, making him Easily High Multiversal Level, _...He feared Ichigo's True Bankai,_ .....easily making Ichigo to be even more powerful than him... possibly Transcendental Multiversal Level. and This without the Hell Arc, we don't know what power that'll have
@@ska4666 so the average shinigami is universal? yea alright multi is just wanking atp tbh your just trying to get them to dragon ball levels (which their not) even any decent bleach power scaling video wouldnt be wanking them that hard and put them at an accurate level without downplaying or wanking plus you all get them to that level by statements and stretching then maddd hard without the feats to show them at that level, and yea ik you don’t need feats to be uni or what not but still. its like saying madara would be universe since he said si
I saw multiverse and Omniverse in ben 10 for the first time and i didn't even knew that this is going to be a huge deal in nowadays superhero movies, ben 10 universe has so much potential.
Love to see Ben getting the respect he deserves, when I heard you mention that you weren't using Alien X I was expecting egregious downplay or expecting for you to make the match close despite Ben's power even without Alien X but I appreciate the honesty about Ben's general scaling.
Theoretically ben wouldnt even need to transform to win, the omnitrix has shown to be able to alter others dna on a multi planetary scale, he could just ask it to turn them all into baseline regular people or the worst. I do ultimately agree ben wins though it think theres a few more vectors the big three have tmake it more even that weren't discussed in the video.
You're joking right? A better fight would be Prime All Might vs Homelander, that would be somewhat Fair. Even with the most basic powerscaling of Omniman destroying a planet but not really as it was destabilizing the core and it took 3 people to do, that's still 1/3 that planet's gravitional binding energy. Earth's is 2.49×10³² joules of energy. All Might hits 11667.7 tones of TNT using the United States of Smash. The Tsar Bomba, humanities biggest tnt yielded explosion was 50 Megatons. USoS hits 0.0116677 MT, and it would take 600 trillion Tsar to break Earth's Gravitional Binding Energy.
Best part is the omnitrix transforms ben into peak physical condition for his age (thats why base ben has strength feets beyond regular ten year olds and is always jacked in the futures ) so in naruto he would have the best chakra for example
He'd have all chakra nature with all the Dojutsus. He'd surely have Broly's power and potential. He'd have conqueror's Haki. Ben's a litteral cheat code.
@@CommentPositionInformer they don't teleport, it's with their own speed, shown in the show They can't travel between mana because it's multi dimensional
Bro you single handedly just made my day I just finished watching a death battle of Ben 10 versus green lantern I was crying my eyes out why the hell did I only focus On alien X. just any other alien could have defeated Greenland no problem echo could be Bro you know you just made my day like that
This video really is sleeping on ichigo, by the end of manga his powers rivals the soul king who literally split one universe into three entirely new ones and created the concept of life and death Plus although he had some help, he managed to win against Yhwach who could see all possible futures and alter the outcomes to something he wished Also, even if omnitrix does prevent Ben from dying instantly by transforming him instantly into the best alien for the situation if he took fatal wounds, haven't you considered ichigo could just cut his arm instantly and the fight would be over before it even started?
even worse, he completly ignores ben has a normal ass human soul that would insta die by any attack of ichigo, leaving his biological body "alive" due to the omnitrix but motionsless because it has no soul
Could just scan ichigo the moment he realises that he isn't a normal human like the other big 3 members. + They wouldn't figure out each others abilities as soon as they see each other so the fight would drag on till ichigo can figure out his abilities.
clock work: chronokinesis gravattack: can create blackholes lodestone:can make the electric charges in your body the same and oof you heatblast:can become a supernova toepick:no explanation required atomix:CAN CREATE A NUKE ON THE SPOT IN SECONDS gutrot:CAN RELEASE POISON GAS ON THE SPOT ALIEN X IS NOT REQUIRED TO BEAT THEM edit:the omintrix literally has an anti death feature that is active 24/7 as long as the omnitrix is on his hand so they would have to remove the omnitrix first which is something not even a null void bomb thing could do, the omnitrix literally took over bens cut off hand and was still connected to his body preventing him from dying
Lodestone. It's lodestar. And his powers are magnetic. Now Buzzshock, on the other hand... Also, toepic is just so gross he's scary. Not really that powerful, but could definitely mess people up.
Yall are forgetting Ben a can FUCKING CLONE HIMSELF!!!with Echo echo and those clones had fully functioning Ultamatrixes!!!! meanwhile naruto's clones go out in smoke wih just a punch. and Echo echo doesn't have a limit to his clones and can resurect himself by keeping an echo echo in the back of his car!!!
I think it would only have been used if the opponents were comparable or slightly above omniverse (16) ben (excluding alien X) since ben 10k is clearly shown in all 3 variants to be much more capable than he used to be. (Side note, since b10k from ultimate alien has access to the same magic gwen does, that means he might even be the strongest ben we’ve seen including 10k from omniverse)
No argument for Ichigo not being Universal is valid you'd have to willingly ignore several dozen statements and downplay multiple bare minimum galaxy sized locations, with the living realm literally just being the "real" world we live in. Multiple characters around or below Ichigo's level of power are just outright Universal so the downplay just doesn't make sense. I completely agree that Ben stomps the trio but I've never seen such vicious downplay of Ichigo before, you would have to downplay him viciously to get him anywhere below Multi Galaxy level and that's just verifiable fact
@@faith4657respectfully bruh i think its consistent enough. Yamamoto is a universal threat, average squad 0 member bankai is universal+ and above that tier is Ichigo being a soul king candidate which is the same tier as All Seeing Yhwach and Aizen.
@kaliyuga14surfer88 The realms aren't universes, nor do they call them universes, which is "uchu." They call them world's or realms "sekai." The realms when their together are a universe. They shook the realms, but that doesn't mean much, and Yama could destroy SS, but that would mean sun level heat is enough to break a universe, which isn't possible, added with SS not being called a universe.
@@faith4657 understandable anti-feat considering Yama's heat is sun core level, which still threatens to destroy all of soul society regardless if its just that or if that much is enough, HOWEVER soul society includes infinite pocket spaces like Muken, think about it anyway i can concede here too, shaking all the realms being just universal works because of bleach's limited cosmology, keep in mind that the average squad 0 member is still universal because they threaten all these possibly infinite realms, and soul king candidates scale even further beyond them.
FINALLY someone scales Ben without bringing up Alien X no offense to alien X, I like his addition to the cast of aliens and the moral dilemma that his usage presents Ben, but the issue is that the fans, they just wanna make and see cool shit for the most part, so when they talk about Ben 10 all they do is stuff like "oh all the multiversal Bens are gathering to fight carnitrix Ben, but then he uses alien X " or "Ben solos superman and goku and green lantern because alien X " but in reality he doesn't really need alien X most of the time, and when he does he wouldn't go to using Alien X right away since he has so many OP aliens! I feel like 5yl does this concept best, they literally have a whole powerhouse playlist filled with Ben's most OP aliens and only if they're not enough to face the villain, ONLY THEN, will he say "fine, fuck it, is this what you wanted?" and turn into alien X. nice job with the scaling man, looking forward to that alien X vs Goku video 😎
You got muted for abit in the video homie. 5:10 - 5:38 Still a w vid Also.. Yugi vs the big 3? Because yugi is gonna be underscaled alot with death battle gonna do yugi vs ash soon and he gonna be getting the shaft (not fairly, i think he could beat ash but whatever)
I feel like i'm more interested in scaling jaden, just cause he has had some whacky feats, and actually has a crazy trump card in super polymerization. idk what yugi's trump card would be
Clockwork, ghostfreak, feedback, way big, and don't even get me started on the ultimates Honestly, ben fucked up in the aggregor arc. He absolutely violated ultimate Kevin, meaning he could've killed aggregor any time he wanted
@@King_DTV oh I'm not saying that I'm ranting about aggregor Ben could have easily demolished him with any of the above. That's what I am saying. Well, not feedback
@@King_DTV clearly His record is rather inconsistent cuz he is so nice, and at times he becomes the punisher, like with Kevin. And I want to know, in the final episode, why did the Omnitrix use feedback to control the big bang rather than alien X.
There's something hilarious about Cannonbolt being able to solo all of one piece (especially if he's probably blunt force hits to say Luffy but it's still funny)
9:53, nice video, just wanted to say kid naruto pre time skip did have ftl scaling because of haku, though he didn't fully scale to it yet, I've heard arguments for it though.
Considering that he barely dodged a SoL attack in the War Arc, several years older and as a SoSP, safe to say this scaling is either a misinterpretation or an outlier.
@@Tylearnedwhy is he not ichigo is stated to be a replacement for the soul ling thats what ichibe wanted soul king literally holds the entire bleach verse in place which is shown when he died the verse collapses literally in the last episode and ion wanna hear that its only 3 planets foh
@Tylearned OK nah he definitely is. He's a soul king candidate and the soul king's reiatsu holds the 3 realms in balance. Yamamoto's bankai can destroy the universe of the SS and Squad 0 can threaten all 3 realms with their bankai.
Ichigo and bleach as a whole is very consistently multiverSal-universal, we have so many uni feats and statements that it's basically crazy to argue against it.
Using a writer statement that capped all aliens except Ultimate Waybig and Alien X to way below Solar System then saying Big Chill is Universal is crazy
He really is the best. Not to mention how smart he is. The first time Ben fights Ultimate Kevin 11, he uses a cloning alien to keep his original self safe & hidden while K11 kills the other copies, just to gauge how far Kevin would go in a fight.
I can't wait for Clyde to go over the new ichigo stuff do people stop this disgusting level of downplay, legit just arguing with the narrative at this point
@@lynieryznoname bleach is downplayed by literaly no one. every form of media i go people are always calling them uni or multi or even complex multi. ive just seen someone call ichigo outer too
@@misterjjoseph3501 "All types of media" ≠ UA-cam and Tiktok; These two only have extremes (either it is extremely downplayed or it is extremely wanked) and this does not constitute even 1% of the media that exists on the planet.
Clockwork time rays ain't tagging any of them, for being an Alien that controls time, clockwork is extremely slow unless he stops time and this is done for a short period of time, he didn't do it continuously
@@shehabgamal8640 So dumb you don't even know what I mean by Time rays. It has various effects like age acceleration. which Ben used in an episode with Carl Nesmith and Jennifer Nocturne. Eon and Maltruant are Examples of what Chronosapien aka Clockwork is capable of. Ichigo is the only one who can give Ben a decent Fight if Ben is just Playing around. Luffy's weakness is water get him into Water Hazard he is Fone and about Naruto There are Multiple aliens to Defeat him like NRG who consume energy and convert into Nuclear Power, Naruto Chakra is gone.
Bro you are so dumb you don't even know what I mean by Time rays. It has various effects like age acceleration. which Ben used in an episode with Carl Nesmith and Jennifer Nocturne. Eon and Maltruant are Examples of what Chronosapien aka Clockwork is capable of. Ichigo is the only one who can give Ben a decent Fight if Ben is just Playing around. Luffy's weakness is water get him into Water Hazard he is Fone and about Naruto There are Multiple aliens to Defeat him like NRG who consume energy and convert into Nuclear Power, Naruto Chakra is gone.
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*5:10-5:40 idk why the fucking audio cut out but I basically said Base Way Big upscales from the Ultimate Aliens *
AGAIN SORRY FOR THE ERRORS NEXT TIME I WONT RUSH THIS OUT SO QUICKLY😭
I got an Alr video idea you could do is a vs battle with Ichigo, Naruto, Luffy with all abilities in their verse
Ichigo would be too op😅
Not far into the video so idk if you mention it, but who did the thumbnail art?
GREAT 👌 TYLEARN BEN TEN VS THE BIG THREE ⚟ VIDEO.
can you make a video on ichigo vs dbz gauntlet
Ben 10 fans when they see a new power-scaling video and they hear the words, "I won't be using Alien X."
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Alien X really does make it boring
@@kinman3051I love the fact that Ben has Alien X. Basically that means no matter how dire things get, in the end he will save the day. However, in a VS Battles setting it's very boring how people just default to Alien X against semi-powerful verses, when you could always make it more interesting by taking Alien X from him or even taking a few other powerhouses like Feedback, Clockwork and even Way Big. He doesn't even need those a lot of the time anyways. He has many haxes and insane lines of scaling.
Alien X makes it boring, and with all the other aliens he has access to and the other abilities of the Omnitrix, he has more than enough ways to deal with most opponents.
Honestly alien x really makes people forget how OP the rest of bens aliens are. Feedback, clock work, way big are all extremely powerful
Fr bro clock work got time rays he could literally turn you to dust
@@Knightboy49clockwork speed scaling is cheeks and he can't use his time rays when time is stopped so he stuck using just one
The last episode of omniverse when feedback contains and shoots a big bang at meltruant was crazy
@@Chriso22 it was all the aliens not just feedback so that feat can't be fully applied to feed back
He can slow down time in his vicinity.
Ben doesn’t even need his most powerful aliens.
He just needs to transform into The Worst and eat all their attacks until they are exhausted
The Worst and Way Big Combo would Go crazy 😭
@@ImPowerAngel bro you just made me imagine him running as fast as he can as XLR8 and turning into an alien like armadrillo or four arms to smack the goofy outa some one
the worst part is that he CAN do that and he was allready thinking of stuff like that at age 10
@@togeluga_the_catyou could even do big chill can go intangible inside them, and then boom diamondhead. Hell you could do the nanomech thing where he goes up their a-
@@GamingFun-mf5zwayo!!! 💀
@@ourhoes1515ain’t no ayo u dirty minded yk what he meant when he said tht😭😭😂
"Fuck a Big 3, I got a huge 10"
Bro what 😭😭
Bro😭
😳
What does bro mean by that? 💀
10 inches of ben, headass statement 🤣🤣
A Ben 10 show with full on anime style battles would be the coolest shit in the universe.
Everyone keeps saying that lol
@@Chriso22 Because its facts.
@@Chriso22because it would
Facts
EXCELLENT TYLEARN WORK, 😊😊😊😊😊
Even Without Alien X, Ben has so many OP Aliens
Feedback: Absorbed the Big Bang (calculated at complex multiversal thanks to the Ben 10 cosmology)
Way Big: Casual planet buster, who can hurt an extra dimensional Cthulu like monster named Dagon and Way Big was stated to survive attacks from a solar system destroying weapon
Upchuck: Absorbed energy 20x more powerful than a star and can eat planets canonically
Big Chill: can freeze over the Null Void (a dimension)
Clockwork: can reset Multiversal destruction
Jetray: can travel hyperspace with casual ease
Chromastone: can absorb stars
I agree people forget that other aliens are powerful. It's nor just Alien x
NRG was gonna eat all nukes on Earth
There's a problem with most of these examples, and that's the fact that they're plain wank.
1. Feedback's feat isn't Multiversal. It's universal max.
2. Waybig needs his Ultimate Form to even hurt Dagon. Which Prime Ben doesn't have. Only his Ultimatrix variant possessed.
3. Upchucks can only eat a planet over time. Not instantly. They're not planetary.
4. Big Chill also isn't Dimensional-Tier since we know he can only accomplish such a feat after a while. Just like "Planetary Upchuck"
Clockwork can't reset Multiversal destruction. He reset the effects of a weapon that killed people within a small area. And that doesn't speak anything or translate to his AP/DC.
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5b The Ben 10 cosmology has been revised further, meaning that Feedbacks feat is far more impressive than it actually is
Albedo Way Big can casually vaporize planets giving him Dwarf Star Level to Star Level AP, hell it was stated that Way Big can survive attacks that can level Solar System, Evil Way Big can cover the entire planet with a cosmic storm, Way Big even in base has MFTL plus combat speed
Upchuck ate a ball of energy denser and more potent than a star in the OG series
Also Clockwork literally reset that, considering the Ben 10 counterparts returned back again after being erased
@@AnakinSkywalker-u5bUniversal annihilarg?LoL
Annihilarg universes at Least 1c to h1b/
Waybig scale to humungousaur,hg can destroying 2 light years With entropy pump feat /
Still at Least Multi continent level feat /
"Dimensional tier"siskakwkakqkwmw
bro literally froze the size in less than 5 minutes not for years
/You literally made it clear you didn't watch the show
"Kamehameha!"
"Getsuga Tenshou!"
"Rasenshuriken!"
"Gomu Gomu no Red Roc!"
"Karyu no Hokö!"
*_(Feedback absorbs it all and makes a planet sized electroball)_*
"See ya!"
Master control is assumed of course.
Even without master control been only ever gets a different alien than he thinks he chose because of user error. He would legitimately just have to actually pay attention to what he's doing and he would instantly level up by a ton.
As a fan of Ben 10 from Classic to Omniverse I thank you so much for taking about more than just Alien X as Ben has so many more interesting and strong aliens
@@sten2184 most have bad speed scaling and there all below solar system bare minimum
@@gameuniverse5973 Dude what? Clockwork, Way Big,Atomic can create stars, Upchuck literally ate energy 20 times more potent than the sun, and they canonically are able to eat a planet. Way Big destroyed a planet with casual ease and scales to a weapon which can destroy a Solar System and above Agreggor, who can survive attacks which can span lightyears away, Chromastone can absorb stars, Feedback can consume the Big Bang which would have destroyed the cosmos aka Complex Multiversal Level
@@gameuniverse5973 no they ultimate echo echo is solar way big is solar and ulmite humgasour solar so much feedback clockwork multervisal
@@gameuniverse5973 Way Big, Clockwork, Feedback, Atomix, Gravattack, Ultimate Humungosaur etc
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Ben's biggest advantage is not even the intensity of his powers, it's that he has a lot of variety. The Omnitrix in alien force was said to have 1 million 900 and something alien species available at total. And if HEATBLAST can have star level power, Ben's full arsenal is CRAZY.
he could like drain all of their attacks by transforming into fodder aliens and tanking them lol
Fast dude having the same feat as metroman at a baseball match lol
Yeah literally the jack of all trades & master of all 💀
Ichigo: It's OK guys, we got this. I'm a Shinigami, Arrancar, Fullbringer and Quincy!
Ben using the Omnitrix scanner: Guess I'm all of those, too, now
Edit: OK this was a joke comment but I'm settling this so I stop getting these replies. The omnitrix can turn into anything with genetic variations. Quincies and fullbringers being human doesn't matter. Soul reapers and Arrancars supposedly not having DNA is bullshit. They all bleed, have genetic traits passed down within families, and can reproduce. Don't even try and tell me that they don't have DNA. That is a lie, and you know it.
Sadly he cant do that cuz there souls and fullbringers and Quincys are human with superpowers so he cant copy them
@saadabdullah5786 the omnitrix can copy Quincies and Fullbringers. It can copy any genetic variation of any species as shown by the Upchuck subspecies episode of Omniverse. Quincies and Fullbringers would just be classed as subspecies by the Omnitrix and then boom, Ben is now Lasertip and Upscale
bro imagine ben getting a vastolorde or a otsutsuki form by scanning naruto or ichigo
@@kanemccarthy1979 not shinigami or arrancar tho, tho species made out of entirely different matter-reishi, not normal matter like molecule so i don't thing the Omnitrix can scan it. Ghost freak is made out of normal matter incase you wonder, it's not the same.
@VietNguyen-mf4wh I mean what about aliens that are mechanical in nature? The omnitrix includes the DNA of what is essentially just energy with a consciousness. Mechamorphs are literally an artificial species. I see no reason why being made of Reishi makes them unscannable when the Omnitrix can scan and replicate every other kind of being, even ones that are mechanical and mineral based
I'm glad you talked about the other Aliens, I get Alien X is ridiculously OP but Ben has other forms too and I feel people use Alien X in battles where he isn't needed lol
Tell me about it, like you put him in versus battles where you know he doesn't have to use him, but all you get in the comments is 'Alien X solos', like there's at least a dozen other aliens he's used that can get the job done
It makes sense, the power level between Alien X and the other aliens is *HUGE*
@@lanecravens0065exactly lmao it's annoying after a certain point
For real I want them to bring up other fun aliens besides X it's boring and stale
When people do versus battles, they’re typically trying to pit the strongest versions of each character against one another.
"PLEASE BEN, WE NEED THIS! You are kind of the Goat, Hero of the Multiverse and we need this for our fans!"
Kevin: "Yo, bro, I am watching your stream, why the fuck are you laughing? That is disrespectful as fuck!"
Peak comment, I'm saving this 😂
I just imagine Ben holding in his laughter 😂.
5:14 the audio turned off
Thank god it isn't just me
@@jonahwade9683 Was just about to say 😂
I thought my phone was broken
Damn I thought it was just apart of the video but you right.
Goes back on at 5:40 just commenting this so people can skip to there without missing anything
I knew Ben was broken but i didn't know he was this broken. Like holy crap. And whats even scarier is the forms in this video are the more "low/common tier fighters".
Nope the aliens he mentioned is Ben's high tier fighters. There are more high tier aliens he didn't mention and it is Ghostfreak, gravattack, guttrot and Big Chill
@@bringiton4drago371 have you even watched Ben10? Being a superhero series should already tell you how big and straightforward the scaling is gonna be.
@@myvlog5112 the banned 10 go crazy fr
@@Engulf257that's not even cannon he don't even need em
Speed feats
XLR8 freezing time during a baseball game
Jetray going through hyperspace
Albedo Waybig traveling all the way to earth in cosmic destruction (mind you he was already outside of the milkyway galaxy) and Ben's waybig should scale relative
TRUE cosmic is canon iirc
@@Tylearned it's an alternate timeline I believe, kinda like Gwen getting the omnitrix back in Gwen 10. But the scaling should still hold as it only took Albedo a week at the max to get there, and as omniverse shows, all Ben are somewhat relative to each other
@@Tylearned It's not canon but it's been stated that every alt universe in Ben 10 basically scales back to the Prime Universe because all of their omnitrix's work the same. Same goes for Albedo. So any feat performed by Ben in one of the games can be used to scale Prime Ben (besides any of the 3 Ben 10,000's)
@@griffan9913 That logic doesn't apply to reboot though.
you forgot clockwork with his time ability he can go as fast as he want
Never seen someone dig into the feats of Ben 10 like this but I love it especially the speed feats section. Ben’s aliens really are scaling on some high end levels of fiction!
Means a lot brother tysm
As a ben 10 fan who knows the scaling even I was surprised by some of the stuff in this video like the ultimate aggregor scaling.
Yes! Glad to provide nuance stuff also sorry about the audio
@@Tylearned also another thing I was surprised by was that you didn't talk about feedback and his speed scaling like how he reacted to Malware's tachyon blaster or how his species can casually traverse a nebula
@@NomercyMohau14 right
for some reason i was thinking about just malware and how much of menace he was
"you could wipe out every human within 100 miles, maybe even more"
" *A BONUS* "
and Feedback just cassualy absorbs the Tachyon Cannon blast wich can destroys your whole genetic code
@@Tylearned
Ty I need you to do something important. Scale my goat Uncle grandpa. With the games comics and the show. He can get to near outer if we take into account him being more powerful than the entire CN multiverse
Don't Forget Ben Defeated Vilgax And Kevin mutation In Age Of 10 With master control, And Vilgax Was Called Planet Destroyer At That Time.
Also vilgax created a black hole
Great video, but you failed to consider the possibility of Ichigo discovering he's part Celestialsapien in the middle of the battle
Is this the same type of stand as star platinum?
Oh please even a part celestialsapien would die at bens hands.
It's funny that no one gets the joke😂
Hahahahha
Imagine feedback being so powerful they have to remove him from the Omnitrix
13:43 ha he does
Never have I imagined a Ten year old kid wearing a device that allows him to transform into Aliens would no diff my favorite anime series….😮😂
You don't cause it's not true, you have to imagine a 17 year old with a watch
he's a grown man now bruv
*16 year old 💔
@@4thswagkage well.. Ben10 is American. So it's mostly gonna be fights over narrative compared to most Japanese media. Due to so much drama put into the big 3, it'd be pretty difficult for them to even comprehend Ben.
12:30 now I’m just imagining cannonbolt that just starts rolling and just crashing into everything and 1 shots everything in the verse and it’s helarious
Ben(the goat) is Heavily slept on, he folds their verses using only feedback
You mean that mountain to country level fodder haha no
@@gameuniverse5973 delulu
@@gameuniverse5973 Get the big three past city lol
@@GodEditz300ok now you are hateing lmao, all scale above continent and even more (naruto and ichigo)
@@gameuniverse5973Ben is Omniversal...
the only person that could potentially end Ben would be Ichigo as direct attacks to soul can get past the omnitrix's fail safe
not happening watch vengence of the vilgax
Ben is so underrated people forget that with the ultimatrix he could theoretically steal the dna of a Saiyan and the ultamtrix eill modify it to make him the peak of what the race could be "normally" so without crazy training and shit so he can basically just kake his own ssj4 theoretically and correct me if im wrong but this version if ben can merge aliens as well so he coukd make a saiyan hybrid the duee is so busted i love him so much
you’re mixing up bens by a bit, but yeah. UA Ben could scan a saiyan and make a hyper-evolved variant that would be stupidly powerful considering saiyan biology.
Way Big with Saiyan DNA would be peak, Zenkai boosted Planet-buster laser would be peaker.
@@mercurian_witch sorry for that I didn't mean too, aren't all the beans apart of the same timeline or no? It's been a longggg time since I watched the show
@@cosmicvoid239 Kinda, each series ben has a different future version since meeting their future selves changes the timeline, Omniverse Ben 10k is the only ben who has it.
@@mercurian_witch Not only that, a normal saiyan evolving would be dangerous but the base omnitrix already makes it peak version of the species (To the point where he was an alien where the women are biologically stronger and he was still stronger then them.) So bare minimum he would have been Broly level just from transforming and then on top of that that Broly level alien would have been put in a combat simulation for thousands of years to evolve into its ultimate form!
Honestly luffy and narutos giant forms against waybig sounds hype
This is a bait match up Clockwork solos truly a waste of time
that was a pun for those who didn’t catch that
I get it
time huh? thanks for the tip
Epic 😂
I mean you ain't wrong though
Bro I feel like people really don't know how strong Ben really is. Even without Alien X Ben has aliens like Atomix, who is a living nuclear facility, Feedback who absorbed the BIG Bang, Way Big, who can travel through a space storm and fire cosmic rays, being able to hurt a being made of pure energy, and Ghostfreak... Who's a literal ghost, and the omnitrix just doesn't let him die. The Worst could probably solo cause he's just never gonna take enough damage, clockwork who controls time itself, and chroma stone who can absorb all forms of energy, has an indestructible body, and is able to destroy stars with ease. But that really also makes you wonder, how the hell did Azmuth get all these alien DNA samples? Like did he go to the forge of creation to get Alien X? And don't even try and argue that they can destroy the omnitrix, it's indestructible, it would transform Ben before anything could happen and the only way it was ever destroyed was with the self destruction feature
Also destroying the omnitrix is a risky move. If omnitrix gets destroyed it will destroy the universe
@@FireArtVids21Not really, the reason why the omnitrix would explode like that is because of the build up, in the alien force finale, ben self destructed the omnitrix for less than 1 minute and it only blew up the omnitrix while in the movie “secret of the omnitrix”, the self destruct has been building up, and if ben transforms, the build up of the self destruct goes faster, so if ben wanted to, he can activate the self destruct for 96 hours, spam transformation, and do a kamikaze for the funny
not to mention should ben die for real the omnitrix would sacrifice an alien and its genetic make up to revive ben or even make him a new body
I think it was implied that Paradox got the Alien X DNA sample for Asmuth which may have also been the reason behind why he was banned from ever getting close to the Forge of creation
@@w3mp732 Well Omnitrix can't be destroyed by someone other than Ben or Azmuth. And When vilgax transformed into swampfore the alien force Omnitrix didn't speed up the self destruction. That's a retcon it seems.
As a Ben 10 fan who's casually into power scaling, I'm SOOOO glad you mention aliens beside Alien X. The appeal of Ben 10 is his utility and diversity in his power set. A jack of all trades sort of character. Seeing him be reduced to just one form in Vs fights is annoying and pointless. This character has plenty of feats, abilities, and hax that rarely get brought up. That's kind of the point of Kuro's "Why Ben could beat..." video. To highlight Ben's true strength and to dispel the misconceptions.
Ten year old Ben's XLR8 was fast enough to make time stop around him, and if we included Ben 10,000 feats, he used XLR8 to patrol the entire planet in only 5 seconds
The fact that Ben 10,000 didn't even rip the world in half with that is insane 😂
You forgot the p in stop
@Knightwithlightning55 Well, that was a typo, and I have since fixed it
And he never did it again, was getting tagged and reacted to by everyone in the series and in the same scene was slower than the frames of a hand held camera that Gwen used, about ben 10k, it's said he was patrolling the planet continuously but 5 seconds?, XLR8 max speed is officially 888 m/h.
@@shehabgamal8640we some him be able to slow time, the creators just had to take that shit back. Since it could solve a lot of the episodes problems
the Null Void is also an extra dimensional pocket dimension
Ben is op and his intelligence, battle iq give him advantage over shonen mc
It can’t be a pocket dimension, because you can cross through to entirely separate universes through it. We see this in heroes United.
kyogoku is a also a pocket dimension that exists everywhere in bleach and a fullbringer named riruka literally stuffed the entire pocket dimension into her box and then yukio modifying the said dimension using his ability and this said guy can also create his own pocket dimension outta nothing
"I knew that the Omnitrix had a failsafe that wouldn't let me die; and sure enough, it kicked in right before the Big Bang started. It always gives me the right alien, even if I want something else." - Ben, in the finale of the series.
Facts bro fax
"Ichigo use the true getsuga tensho, it's base eatle we're against"
-naruto and luffy after Getting eatled
😭😭😭😭
HAHAHAH, agenda piece reaches far and wide I see
Man eatle and goop are weirdly strong for how they're treated by the community.
@@mahoganydoughnut6082 yea but goop has a very obvious weakness tho
@@dudesayshi2191that thing above his head right?
4:50 look, I'll admit its been a hot second since I watched omniverse, but I'm pretty sure the only reason it would take down the other timelines is because the big bang would alter the prime timeline, so it affects the other timelines butterfly effect style and not pure powerwise
No it is power based, but more so design then raw AP because this was in a branched Timeline known as No Watch Ben where the events of Prime Ben getting the Omnitrix doesn't actually happen
Nah bro there all different
Best Ben 10 scaling vid,which doesn't revolves only around Alien X👑🔥💯
Simply a great video
Alien x isnt needed to show the depth of Bens Power and... yeah you proved it lol
Thing is, the idea that you can just upscale a character above Blackbeard who CLAIMS his gravity had the intensity of a black hole just does not work.
In the anime it took about 4 seconds for Ace to get pulled into his Kurouzu, which uses the same power. They were roughly 10 meters apart and the average 6'1" person weights around 90 KG. To figure out the force used in that pull is quite simple, it's just:
mass_kg = 90
distance_m = 10
time_s = 4
acceleration_m_per_s2 = 2 * distance_m / (time_s ^ 2)
force_n = mass_kg * acceleration_m_per_s2 = 112.5 newtons of force per second
Quite simply, if Blackbeard could produce infinite gravity, he'd of beaten Ace the second he grabbed hold of him, let's be real, it was hyperboly.
Could you do a video on generator Rex. I’m interested in the scaling since his crossover with Ben is canon and nanites are kinda cracked lol .
pesky dust is pretty op in my opinion
the dude can manipulate dreams and mfs slept on this alien (pun intented)
like do you know what this alien can make you dream of?
he could give you that "i have no mouth and i must scream" ass nightmare
dreams literally have some sort of time dilation
Pesky Dust solos the whole of DBZ confirmed
Imagine both pesky dust and toepick 😵💫☠️
@ as a fusion 💀
he also managed to put a REALITY WARPER to sleep. dude's insane.
@@Account-py9suPugnivores are far from reality warpers
Bro doesnt need alien x feedback solos
YESSIR
Fax
Not Feedback
@@BarbarianXD clockwork solos
@@BarbarianXD I’ll say you just need waybig or gravattack
Honestly ichigo probably the only one outta the big 3 u can properly scale to multiversal due to everything taking place in multiple dimensions and some of em being higher planes of existence n stuff but don’t really matter due to how absurdly powerful Ben’s aliens are on average anyway especially wit the omnitrix just gonna transform Ben when he’s off guard regardless 😂
Ichigo isn't multiversal, and there is no higher dimensional realm in bleach.
ichigo at a mid ball would be like multi galaxy no?
i just feel like calling him uni or higher is inacurate since hes not on the same level of power yhwach is.
@@faith4657 there is... Fact check it
@@misterjjoseph3501 oh! Yhwach himself said his trye Bankai is Too strong for even him to handel
That's why he was scared of it, Imagine That😮
Ichigo is High Multiversal level and it's been appropriately established by facts in show and Kubo(author)
@@ska4666 ?
Everything is universal when you just take characters at face value
The scalling for bleach is consistent on being Galaxy to Multi-Galaxy Level and for Naruto's Baryon Mode it should be around Multi-Solar System Level and for Current Luffy Small Planetary Level should be accurate. And for Ben 10, scalling you did really good. I 100% believe in the outcome that Ben will one shot all of the Big 3. To be clear, the scalling I talked about the Big 3 are their High-Ball scalling.
lowkey i personally think pre baryon mode naruto was already at solar system due to kaguyas dimensions already containing planets and stars in them, indicating the presence of a solar system. and the novelization saying a story on how momoshiki ate a solar system.
id say luffy would be at best planetary if you really push his strongest attack to that level or maybe star if you go with the op world being the size of the sun.
ichigo accurately is at multi galaxy just because he can injure yhwach who is uni+, but ichigo is nowhere near yhwachs lvl so multi galaxy is accurate.
@@misterjjoseph3501 I absolutely agree 👍🏻 👌🏼
Watch a decent power scaleing video that scales referencing Manga,
It's clearly mentioned, shinigami (Death Gods) in Bleach are already Universal level at base, (gods), Soul King is progenitor level existence since, His power was used to create different universes, making him Transcendental Multiversal Level, ...Yhwach (soul King's son) was established to be Causal level, since his power can see the future, so his thoughts are beyond Time, so... and he stated to destroy all existence to dissolve them into one, making him Easily High Multiversal Level, _...He feared Ichigo's True Bankai,_ .....easily making Ichigo to be even more powerful than him... possibly Transcendental Multiversal Level.
and This without the Hell Arc, we don't know what power that'll have
@@ska4666 so the average shinigami is universal? yea alright
multi is just wanking atp tbh your just trying to get them to dragon ball levels (which their not) even any decent bleach power scaling video wouldnt be wanking them that hard and put them at an accurate level without downplaying or wanking
plus you all get them to that level by statements and stretching then maddd hard without the feats to show them at that level, and yea ik you don’t need feats to be uni or what not but still. its like saying madara would be universe since he said si
@@misterjjoseph3501 He's stronger in terms of power then yhwach he outclasses him in power its just the almighty is insane
I saw multiverse and Omniverse in ben 10 for the first time and i didn't even knew that this is going to be a huge deal in nowadays superhero movies, ben 10 universe has so much potential.
Ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens when anime fights cartoons
Actually
This is what happens when Anime fights Ben 10 characters
@@Tari_10_Editz yeah its pretty much just a Ben 10 thing because of the massive and complex cosmology.
@@kaliyuga14surfer88 there are other cartoons like bill or the child from the owl house who can solo
Well both are animation show so it doesn't matter you call it anime or cartoon
"Ben beats goku" finally someone said it
ofc goatku is mentioned in a vs battle that's not about him🐐
@Idcsaiyan cause he just knew yall gokutards would ask the stupid question as :cAn He bEaT GokU tHo?
Its seems like dragonball fans never want to admit that goku loses in a fight even if it's completely obvious they'll just never admit it
I solo without Alien X 😎
@@BenOmniversesupreme feedback and clockwork is more than enough
Ben 10 wipes out dragon ball, so of course the big 3 will be an easy task for him 😂
Z Goku negs Comp ben 10 . Drop ur cord if u disagree . I mma educate u rq
@@wcom9999yet you can’t grasp common grammar.
@@wcom9999 alien x enters the chat😈
Z goku does not neg him, get a job app first
@@justsomeguywithamustache2901alien x caps at low multi at best
Ben 10 is the Goku/Superman of cartoons. He’s so broken 😭
Love to see Ben getting the respect he deserves, when I heard you mention that you weren't using Alien X I was expecting egregious downplay or expecting for you to make the match close despite Ben's power even without Alien X but I appreciate the honesty about Ben's general scaling.
Theoretically ben wouldnt even need to transform to win, the omnitrix has shown to be able to alter others dna on a multi planetary scale, he could just ask it to turn them all into baseline regular people or the worst.
I do ultimately agree ben wins though it think theres a few more vectors the big three have tmake it more even that weren't discussed in the video.
Hey Tylearned! Here’s a idea:
“Prime All Might Vs. Omni-Man”
You're joking right? A better fight would be Prime All Might vs Homelander, that would be somewhat Fair. Even with the most basic powerscaling of Omniman destroying a planet but not really as it was destabilizing the core and it took 3 people to do, that's still 1/3 that planet's gravitional binding energy. Earth's is 2.49×10³² joules of energy. All Might hits 11667.7 tones of TNT using the United States of Smash. The Tsar Bomba, humanities biggest tnt yielded explosion was 50 Megatons. USoS hits 0.0116677 MT, and it would take 600 trillion Tsar to break Earth's Gravitional Binding Energy.
Bro, you gotta scale Gwen, *evin, Rook, and Max next.
NEED
I have seen a lot of this scaling thanks to the Ink Tank, but it is great to see others talk about this stuff.
Feedback eating everything they throw at him
dat shit free eats
Ichigo with soul hax: allow me to introduce myself
@@ray-chan9885he absorbs it fr trust me
@@dontawilliams8433i thought and I'm sure that he can only absorb energy
Literal genjutsu execution
Best part is the omnitrix transforms ben into peak physical condition for his age (thats why base ben has strength feets beyond regular ten year olds and is always jacked in the futures ) so in naruto he would have the best chakra for example
He'd have all chakra nature with all the Dojutsus.
He'd surely have Broly's power and potential.
He'd have conqueror's Haki.
Ben's a litteral cheat code.
Base Ben 10 can dodge an attack from the esoterica which can travel between dimensions with their speed, so they won't blitz Ben
Esoterica don't travel between dimensions with speed, they can simply open portals to it.
@@CommentPositionInformer they don't teleport, it's with their own speed, shown in the show
They can't travel between mana because it's multi dimensional
@@Tari_10_Editz
No, they don't. They've literally been shown to simply stand still, with half of them in one dimension and half in another.
@@CommentPositionInformer if they can use portals, then why didn't they do that to get past Gwen's mana shield
@@Tari_10_Editz
Because, as you said, mana is multidimensional.
Opening a portal to another dimension doesn't mean shit if the shield is also there.
Bro you single handedly just made my day I just finished watching a death battle of Ben 10 versus green lantern I was crying my eyes out why the hell did I only focus On alien X. just any other alien could have defeated Greenland no problem echo could be Bro you know you just made my day like that
This video really is sleeping on ichigo, by the end of manga his powers rivals the soul king who literally split one universe into three entirely new ones and created the concept of life and death
Plus although he had some help, he managed to win against Yhwach who could see all possible futures and alter the outcomes to something he wished
Also, even if omnitrix does prevent Ben from dying instantly by transforming him instantly into the best alien for the situation if he took fatal wounds, haven't you considered ichigo could just cut his arm instantly and the fight would be over before it even started?
even worse, he completly ignores ben has a normal ass human soul that would insta die by any attack of ichigo, leaving his biological body "alive" due to the omnitrix but motionsless because it has no soul
Could just scan ichigo the moment he realises that he isn't a normal human like the other big 3 members. + They wouldn't figure out each others abilities as soon as they see each other so the fight would drag on till ichigo can figure out his abilities.
you forgot to mention that in the data book it was stated that Ultimate Greg to be able to destory the Universe High Hyper tbh
clock work: chronokinesis
gravattack: can create blackholes
lodestone:can make the electric charges in your body the same and oof you
heatblast:can become a supernova
toepick:no explanation required
atomix:CAN CREATE A NUKE ON THE SPOT IN SECONDS
gutrot:CAN RELEASE POISON GAS ON THE SPOT
ALIEN X IS NOT REQUIRED TO BEAT THEM
edit:the omintrix literally has an anti death feature that is active 24/7 as long as the omnitrix is on his hand so they would have to remove the omnitrix first which is something not even a null void bomb thing could do, the omnitrix literally took over bens cut off hand and was still connected to his body preventing him from dying
Lodestone. It's lodestar. And his powers are magnetic. Now Buzzshock, on the other hand...
Also, toepic is just so gross he's scary. Not really that powerful, but could definitely mess people up.
@@Legendplayz1938 i havent seen ben 10 in a long time ofc i dont remember their names man cut me some slack
In Alien Force, Ben using Swampfire was able to flip an entire Highbreed Weather structure.
He never did anything like that ever again.
"Ben beats Goku" hell might as well throw in Zeno as well
Zeno negs the verse
Oh come on, Goku solos any alien below alien x or clockwork
He doesn't
@@shehabgamal8640 Goku can beat clockwork too. Its just Alien X
@@Kumikinang how
Already know this is going to be a fire video
I didn't expect to see you here
Yall are forgetting Ben a can FUCKING CLONE HIMSELF!!!with Echo echo and those clones had fully functioning Ultamatrixes!!!! meanwhile naruto's clones go out in smoke wih just a punch. and Echo echo doesn't have a limit to his clones and can resurect himself by keeping an echo echo in the back of his car!!!
That was a really cool thumbnail my guy
Can't wait for Generator Rex to get some powerscaling love too! 😂
Agreed. Need to start a revolution on that end
@@draconiumnova5110 Oh a good reference right there
@chrisschmidt8454 glad someone got it.
@@draconiumnova5110Ha I understood that reference
NOT using Alien X and using Other Ben 10 Aliens instead to scale is definitely a challenge for me sometimes So I actually respect those who do that😎🥰
Ty, i give you massive props for not bringing up the Ben 10K Fusing Omnitrix from Omniverse!
Imagine an Atomics/ Feedback combination!
I think it would only have been used if the opponents were comparable or slightly above omniverse (16) ben (excluding alien X) since ben 10k is clearly shown in all 3 variants to be much more capable than he used to be. (Side note, since b10k from ultimate alien has access to the same magic gwen does, that means he might even be the strongest ben we’ve seen including 10k from omniverse)
I never realized how powerful Ben 10 truly is until now.
THE GOAT IS FINALLY HERE!!!
No argument for Ichigo not being Universal is valid you'd have to willingly ignore several dozen statements and downplay multiple bare minimum galaxy sized locations, with the living realm literally just being the "real" world we live in. Multiple characters around or below Ichigo's level of power are just outright Universal so the downplay just doesn't make sense. I completely agree that Ben stomps the trio but I've never seen such vicious downplay of Ichigo before, you would have to downplay him viciously to get him anywhere below Multi Galaxy level and that's just verifiable fact
Yo, idk where u heard or saw that, so could u pls say what points were missed so I can understand
Ichigo isn't universal cause the scaling isn't consistent like that.
@@faith4657respectfully bruh i think its consistent enough. Yamamoto is a universal threat, average squad 0 member bankai is universal+ and above that tier is Ichigo being a soul king candidate which is the same tier as All Seeing Yhwach and Aizen.
@kaliyuga14surfer88 The realms aren't universes, nor do they call them universes, which is "uchu." They call them world's or realms "sekai." The realms when their together are a universe. They shook the realms, but that doesn't mean much, and Yama could destroy SS, but that would mean sun level heat is enough to break a universe, which isn't possible, added with SS not being called a universe.
@@faith4657 understandable anti-feat considering Yama's heat is sun core level, which still threatens to destroy all of soul society regardless if its just that or if that much is enough, HOWEVER soul society includes infinite pocket spaces like Muken, think about it
anyway i can concede here too, shaking all the realms being just universal works because of bleach's limited cosmology, keep in mind that the average squad 0 member is still universal because they threaten all these possibly infinite realms, and soul king candidates scale even further beyond them.
It is funny to think that the ultimate combined attacks of the big 3 that relate to energy would basically be like a light snack for Feedback.
Imagine if ben 10 have comic 💀💀💀
@@BenTennyson-p2i Ben 10 has comics?
He’s getting one next year apparently
Ben 10 does have comics
FINALLY someone scales Ben without bringing up Alien X
no offense to alien X, I like his addition to the cast of aliens and the moral dilemma that his usage presents Ben, but the issue is that the fans, they just wanna make and see cool shit for the most part, so when they talk about Ben 10 all they do is stuff like "oh all the multiversal Bens are gathering to fight carnitrix Ben, but then he uses alien X " or "Ben solos superman and goku and green lantern because alien X " but in reality he doesn't really need alien X most of the time, and when he does he wouldn't go to using Alien X right away since he has so many OP aliens! I feel like 5yl does this concept best, they literally have a whole powerhouse playlist filled with Ben's most OP aliens and only if they're not enough to face the villain, ONLY THEN, will he say "fine, fuck it, is this what you wanted?" and turn into alien X.
nice job with the scaling man, looking forward to that alien X vs Goku video 😎
You got muted for abit in the video homie.
5:10 - 5:38
Still a w vid
Also.. Yugi vs the big 3? Because yugi is gonna be underscaled alot with death battle gonna do yugi vs ash soon and he gonna be getting the shaft (not fairly, i think he could beat ash but whatever)
Yugi loses to ash. Atem beats ash.
@@KirBYEonyt you know what i mean homie. I kinda just meant them as a collective individual
I feel like i'm more interested in scaling jaden, just cause he has had some whacky feats, and actually has a crazy trump card in super polymerization. idk what yugi's trump card would be
@@kr555wizard ..the egyptian god cards...
But regardless, yugi and jaden scale to eachother at the end of gx
Perfect Ben10 Review. Death Battle messed up🎉
Finally some Ben 10 love!🔥🔥🔥🔥
The big 3 ain’t standing a chance when clockwork shows up
Ben could genuinely also just fear hax all 3 of them with toe pick and win without lifting a finger
Glad you didn't use alien-X
and this is good and as a person who loves all 4 of these shows/series/anime ...This is epic 😎😎😎😎
Clockwork, ghostfreak, feedback, way big, and don't even get me started on the ultimates
Honestly, ben fucked up in the aggregor arc. He absolutely violated ultimate Kevin, meaning he could've killed aggregor any time he wanted
Ghost freak and way big lose to ichigo feedback technically could but probably not
@@King_DTV oh I'm not saying that
I'm ranting about aggregor
Ben could have easily demolished him with any of the above.
That's what I am saying.
Well, not feedback
@@moksh1106 ohhh you’re right ig it was for stakes and Ben pulls punches a lot
@@King_DTV clearly
His record is rather inconsistent cuz he is so nice, and at times he becomes the punisher, like with Kevin.
And I want to know, in the final episode, why did the Omnitrix use feedback to control the big bang rather than alien X.
@moksh1106 he only had way big of that list also way big wouldn't of won
Excited for that next Ben 10 video
There's something hilarious about Cannonbolt being able to solo all of one piece (especially if he's probably blunt force hits to say Luffy but it's still funny)
This is so goofy lol. Like yall really just refuse to admit a fictional show is inconsistent.
😭😭
It's so goofy and I love it lmao
9:53, nice video, just wanted to say kid naruto pre time skip did have ftl scaling because of haku, though he didn't fully scale to it yet, I've heard arguments for it though.
Considering that he barely dodged a SoL attack in the War Arc, several years older and as a SoSP, safe to say this scaling is either a misinterpretation or an outlier.
@@CommentPositionInformer well given that we are wanking the aliens here, I think it's fair to wank the others too.
Ichigo at star level is insane. He's definitely universal at the very least. Ben still stomps
No he’s not 😭
@@TylearnedI personally use the Yamamoto to upscale him to uni. Iam definitely biased though
@@AhmedHussain-ju6xd that like using Kaguya to argue uni Naruto
@@Tylearnedwhy is he not ichigo is stated to be a replacement for the soul ling thats what ichibe wanted soul king literally holds the entire bleach verse in place which is shown when he died the verse collapses literally in the last episode and ion wanna hear that its only 3 planets foh
@Tylearned OK nah he definitely is. He's a soul king candidate and the soul king's reiatsu holds the 3 realms in balance. Yamamoto's bankai can destroy the universe of the SS and Squad 0 can threaten all 3 realms with their bankai.
Ichigo and bleach as a whole is very consistently multiverSal-universal, we have so many uni feats and statements that it's basically crazy to argue against it.
Ben 10❤
Using a writer statement that capped all aliens except Ultimate Waybig and Alien X to way below Solar System then saying Big Chill is Universal is crazy
He doesn't even need Alien X for Goku
He really is the best. Not to mention how smart he is. The first time Ben fights Ultimate Kevin 11, he uses a cloning alien to keep his original self safe & hidden while K11 kills the other copies, just to gauge how far Kevin would go in a fight.
Base Gwen victims.
Base luffy victim.
@@Ongotham-e8f Gwen smokes Luffy
I've heard of solos but victims, that's a hilarious amount of disrespect
It's true. Gwen is pretty insane. Magic is also stated to have no limits in the Ben 10 verse and Gwen is literally made of it.
@@ultimax10doesgaming48thank you for mentioning that fact. Many peeps love to ignore characters like Gwen and go straight to Ben and Alien X
THEY DID AN ULTRA MAN REFERENCE?????? 3:10
Waybig is an ultraman reference
I can't wait for Clyde to go over the new ichigo stuff do people stop this disgusting level of downplay, legit just arguing with the narrative at this point
@Clyde save the soul society, the fans can’t scale the verse themselves 😓
The same cylde who lied about cero being lightspeed
Bleach is definitely being downplayed but Clyde is not someone to be trusted.
@@lynieryznoname bleach is downplayed by literaly no one. every form of media i go people are always calling them uni or multi or even complex multi.
ive just seen someone call ichigo outer too
@@misterjjoseph3501 "All types of media" ≠ UA-cam and Tiktok; These two only have extremes (either it is extremely downplayed or it is extremely wanked) and this does not constitute even 1% of the media that exists on the planet.
i love watching videos that just go "yeah, ben solos? what did you expect?" cause its true, even without alien x ben is REALLY strong
I am using Clockwork and Time ray attack to erase them from existence!! Don't really need Alien X to perform celestial level sh!t.
Clockwork time rays ain't tagging any of them, for being an Alien that controls time, clockwork is extremely slow unless he stops time and this is done for a short period of time, he didn't do it continuously
@@shehabgamal8640 So dumb you don't even know what I mean by Time rays. It has various effects like age acceleration. which Ben used in an episode with Carl Nesmith and Jennifer Nocturne. Eon and Maltruant are Examples of what Chronosapien aka Clockwork is capable of.
Ichigo is the only one who can give Ben a decent Fight if Ben is just Playing around. Luffy's weakness is water get him into Water Hazard he is Fone and about Naruto There are Multiple aliens to Defeat him like NRG who consume energy and convert into Nuclear Power, Naruto Chakra is gone.
Bro you are so dumb you don't even know what I mean by Time rays. It has various effects like age acceleration. which Ben used in an episode with Carl Nesmith and Jennifer Nocturne. Eon and Maltruant are Examples of what Chronosapien aka Clockwork is capable of.
Ichigo is the only one who can give Ben a decent Fight if Ben is just Playing around. Luffy's weakness is water get him into Water Hazard he is Fone and about Naruto There are Multiple aliens to Defeat him like NRG who consume energy and convert into Nuclear Power, Naruto Chakra is gone.
@@shehabgamal8640 Thats the thing he can stop time instantly.
Man's put spoilers in the thumbnail I'm crying 😭
Now that ive watched this video. How did ben lose to green lantern?
Isn’t it obvious? Popularity bias
@@Malevolence460massively outscaled.
i love tylearned so much
I love you more