Tuning Quickie | Drift Gearing
Вставка
- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- *Poll in top right of video*
Well I feel like quality on this video suffered a bit, being sick is lame. Anyway, really hope this drift gearing video was still helpful! Like I said, I'll try to be extra active in the comments here to answer any questions. |
|
Watch HokiHoshi LIVE here: / hokihoshi
Check out Hoki's Second Channel HERE: / @hokiclips
💖Socials💖
Discord: / discord
Instagram: / hokihoshi
Twitter: / hoki_hoshi
Website: www.hokihoshi.com
Wow, I just now realized how few subscribers you actually have. Due to the quality of your videos I always thought you had at least 10 times that much. Now you can count me in
He needs to record a face reveal and stream gameplays with his face covering 80% of the screen.
Drift isn't my thing, but I'm giving you a like anyways just cause of the quality and usefulness of the content. Thank you for not being loud, clickbaity, and wasting time.
Lol are you refering to ar12gaming??
@@Hughjasswipe pretty sure lol
Make drift your thing! 😂
You are defenitelly underrated!!!!
Very very true
Definitely deserves more subs
Thanks for the video, and also all of your other horizon tuning videos. They have completely transformed my experience playing these games by de-mystifying tuning. It's great that you go into detail and actually explain WHY you set things as you do. In particular, your formula for setting anti-roll, springs, and damping is incredibly useful. Also, your style is a refreshing break from the usual teen-on-ritalin type of presentation. Keep it up, you are a good teacher.
So I just go into drifting in fh4 and your videos help me out so much!!! Thank you!!
Same I’m so excited to drift
@@yunghoodro9040 bruh I commented this a year ago
@@keller_bmx Yh man well I only got into drifting now so 😅
@@yunghoodro9040 it’s good I just found that funny ahha
@@keller_bmx Yh man Ik 1 yr ago 😂
Personally I usually find the gear the car typically wants to drift in, then make that gear longer. If it was 3rd I would then make 2nd and 4th really short.
A short 2nd gear helps get wheel spin going on a lower powered car so I don't have to use the e-brake on every turn. The short 4th is just in case I have to up shift mid-drift .
I then adjust the final drive so that 3rd gear sits right below the red line at max wheel spin.
I will have to try your method though, looks good.
Yep that is almost exactly what I used to do in FH3! A lot of my old drifting Buddies still do something similar so I'm all about going about it that way, but I found for me personally making all the gears short has been easier
after your drift tuning video and helpful reply in comments, I ended up doing some frankenstein gearing, figuring out the best stock gear, then getting one gear before and after closer, but not as close as you do, but more similar to formula drift tune, meaning if I need to really slow down, I downshift, and if I'm going into really fast corner, upshifting. And then I ended up keeping the rest of the tunes as close to stock as possible, if I need to straighten up, speed up and catch up to someone.
This is pure quality.
I'd watch these kind of videos all day
You explained this really well. I figured I'd have to watch a couple different videos, but I think I'm good now. Thanks
Excelent video! I've been trying to figure the gears down, specially when the car is around A800 class. You should do an in-depth guide on each page of the tuning options, like alignment, Sway bars, Aero, etc!
Really enjoy watching these videos! please keep them coming!
Your general tuning guide video helped me out so much. All the cars in my collection are so fun to drive now
My best RWD needle climb is 470k and have been looking for tips on how to improve it, going to give this a try, thanks for the great info!
What car u use
@@c13ank1ll9 Fully upgraded drift Viper with a custom tune is the one with the highest score
I have used all three gearing methods and your videos are very well done. Thankyou for helping all of us!!!!
THANKYOU FOR THIS VIDEO PLEASE KEEP MAKING DRIFTINF TUNING VIDEOS THANKYOUUUU
Your content is amazing and I love all the series you’ve got going on in terms of helpful tips and the review series! Def a sub now and keep up the awesome work!!
That 4-gear NASCAR tuning is perfect for me as a beginner. It's simple and reliable and lets me to focus on improving my skills, instead of fine-tuning the right gear.
By the way, I would be happy to see a more elaborate video on technique. I still have troubles to grasp how to drift in a more sharp corners and how to control the angle during the drift. You're a great teacher and your videos vastly improved my tuning and racing skills, so it would be great if you did a video like that.
I guess the overall idea behind your attempt of making the gears shorter for drifting isn't bad, but i'd rather do it the other way around. My drift style is based on the knowledge that I want to have more velocity in the back tires to initiate a drift and holding it, therefore the tires have to spin faster. This will only happen if the gear ratios aren't too close together, so the gap between the gear change is big enough to let the torque on the tires decline and rise back up again which causes spin. Shorter gears might give you a bit more precision, but longer ones will give you more control. I mostly use 2nd & 3rd gear in normal corners, 4th gear on longer ones and straights. It will heavily depend on the car, engine output, weight distribution and such, so one might be best of to adjust the gears for every car differently.
man those ratios just work instantly thank u sir!
The method of having short gears close to each other is helpful for keyboard drifting, since you don't have control over the throttle.
Also, a small tip: at least on pc, you can enter the load tune menu to see your car's data, including your weight distribution. That way, you don't have to jump out into the part menu.
Big thanks! It was the last puzzle for me in terms of tuning and I never got it right. My respect for explanation)
Nice video! Although I didn't see a poll at the end. Lol
I've got an idea/suggestion for a video that I would like to see. Could you do an in depth look and comparison of all the different tire choices and which would be more beneficial for each class? For example, would it be more beneficial to use street/sport compound tires for >A Class cars and Race/Horizon Race compound for high BHP A to X class?
I'm curious as to just how much grip each tire gives. Some cars I've put sports tires on feel no less grippy than if I put race tires on. Other times, street/sports tires feel grippy-er in wet weather compared to race tires.
I'm eager to see what you think on this, because it could help out with deciding on a PI budget between horsepower upgrades or better tires for car builds.
+10. Exactly this, i am make the same observations about tyres. Pro viewpoint would be very appreciate.
@@76ingus
Something I forgot to ask as well in the original post is which compound would be best for drift. I'm sure racing slicks would be a bit overkill for grip for a car ment to be sideways most of the time. Lol
I sorta started to sus the gearing thing out with drifting, but came here for a few tips, just turned my 1,200 hp supra into an absolute monster, cheers dude
I've watched some of your videos, like 5-6 videos and i taught that i subscribed after your first but i was wrong so sorry about that 😅 i've corrected that, thanks for the helpful video and keep it up 🙏
Can you please do a tuning Livestream?
Will be really helpful to understand what exactly affects what
I've actually thought about this! I'd love to break into twitch (or maybe YT streaming) some time soonish and I figure a tuning livestream would be a great way to do that!
@@HokiHoshi now look back on my man, grats on how far you've came 🙂
Very awesome video! I have been working on establishing certain sections in FH4 and linking the track and running a set line. I think the Festival site has a great line!
Thanks for the vid. It helped me fix the one thing I needed to on my Cobra 427 drift build, the gears.
As somebody who sets very near the top high scores on drift, I always tried to stay true to life. I tuned it like a race transmission. Essentially, I figured there would’ve been no difference however, seeing that I’m not reaching the highest scores I am always 25 to 100,000 points below 1%, it is started to piss me off, and I’m gonna learn how people do it in Forza because at the end of the day it’s actually a video game
How does this vid not have more views. It’s so helpful
I personally prefer some well spaced out gears because I also like to do high speed drifting, definitely suit it to the power of the car but I feather the throttle and steering very smoothly so I personally have no need to have the gear ratio help me much more and I use for example second for a similar type of tighter corners, 3rd for most regular drifting and 4th to 6th for anything from 100 to 180mph drifts. I also use the clutch so dropping a bit more in rpm isn't a big deal to me. Great vid though I'm sure it will help plenty of people :)
yo hoki, the best way in my opinion to grow your channel and maintain communication with your fans is streaming. Not sure if you have a full time job but if you stream then you can satisfy people who want to watch you everyday and then your videos for people who don't always wanna watch you. Most forza streamers do it here on youtube and thats what I would reccomend. Try reaching out to fellow creators/streamers and try to collab, make more creative videos, as well as guides. Love your channel and your guides
Holy shit this guy is the best freaking FH4 UA-camr on YT
I needed this so damn bad! Thanks for the vid. You didn’t get into tire pressure so I’m assuming leave stock, right?
Jers Hern He has a video on all the other tuning things already posted
You should tune the pressures while doing drift runs, turn on telemetry and hit right on the dpad a couple times to the page that shows you the psi for each tire. Then just adjust until the temperatures are as close to 33 psi as possible. Note that psi will change based on temperature/weather too so you should keep an eye on it. Make sure your tires are warm when you do this, do a run or 2 before you start.
Rapid Fire thanks I’ll check them out
The Crab good lookin out man.
Hoki, gotta ask - What's one car that isn't in FH4 that you'd like to see in it?
Personally I'd love to see the kit car, the SLC Superlite - Depending on it's options for quality of life (Things like Air Conditioning, etc) it would weigh roughly 2000-2500 pounds when complete (Typically around 2400), but it doesn't come stock with an engine, and is designed to accommodate as many possible engines as it could with a very long and wide engine bay. So you could put a 500HP Inline-4 in, or put a V10 in. A V12 might even fit in it (Although I haven't seen anyone do that, although I do know there have been V10s put in). It also doesn't come with a drive train, so you could put a 4 speed manual, or a 10 speed. Whatever fits in the car and budget is your choice.
It also has incredible grip and downforce. It holds numerous track lap records. Roughly speaking the Car IRL starts around 48g, but configuring it on the website (depending on how track insane you want it) can push the price well into the 80,000+ range. Typical street builds run around 65g, Race builds somewhere around 85-100+ depending on configuration.
Well, and I know its an easy answer, but I'm really bummed Toyota isn't in FH4, because I own a Toyota that was in FH3! So I'd love to see the mk3 Supra come back. Aside from that, funny enough the other missing car that always sticks out to me is the 300zx, but that's coming to the game now! I'd love to see some more oddball daily driver cars, and some more obscure old JDM cars though!
great video. i use this method but i still learnt things from this video.
I usually tune mine to stay in as few gears as possible, usually one or two, i tune them so they don't bounce very much on the limitor that way i have room to use the throttle to turn the car, for medium powered and greater it's usually fine to take any turn with one fine tuned gear ratio, low powered may need one for medium and sharp turns and one for long turns, i just tune the one closest when trying out the stock tune
Very informative tuning guides👍🏼
I would very much like a stock engine drift tune set-up for the AE86 in this game. I've learned so much from your videos about tuning but the AE86 is the most troublesome for me ,and that's saying it's my favorite car. Everything else I did perfectly with your tuning methods but the gearing is where I really struggle. It just seems to over rev. I guess Bunta was right when he said the 86 is a car that teaches the driver.
Hi HokiHoshi!Thanks for your tuning tips and guides, help me a lot.Would be very interesting see your viewpoint to builds, especially to lover classes builds - d500, c600 and b700. I found enough hard build this lower classes competetive builds against Pro and Unbeatable AI, especially for Cross Country races.Also would be nice see your look at clear Offroad cars tuning, i mean such classes as Offroad, Extreme Offroad, SUV's offroad tuning. I found a way how to tune them, but have feeling that something i do wrong, so would be really helpfull see pro advices for this classes.Best Regards,Ingus.
maybe a stupid question, do you have to be in manual to do this?
I like to be different than everyone else, so I looked around for something unusual I could drift. I pretty much accidentally stumbled onto the Jeep Willy! It's so fun to lead my club on all the drift zone leaderboards filled with 240s and Vipers and here I am with my Class A Willy. :)
Why doesn’t Hoki have a ton of subscribers yet...HIS VIDEOS ARE AMAZING!!!
Than there’s me who spends 3 hours tuning my gearing to get it perfect
@hokihoshi Can you go into detail about which upgrades are most important with your drift cars? Things like desirable power to weight, hp or torque, what kind of engines are best, what do you want your power delivery curve to look like, tire and rim size especially for rear vs front, width upgrade if applicable... Basically any upgrade except for the performance could be very helpful knowledge when building your car before tuning. Look forward to more from you!
Definitely a good idea for an upcoming tuning quickie!
Great video again. I was wondering if you use a controller or a wheel.
I usually start with making 1st be 2nd. 1st is basically useless in most cases. The car wont move. Then i tune the gears so the car is always on the power band like you did with the difference that i get a useful 1st gear and a mental top speed
I prefer to use 3 main gears for drifting with added gears for speed. 1st gear goes to something around 120mph, 2nd gear around 145mph, 3rd gear around 165mph. Really gearing all depends on the torque and hp of the engine. Basically make the 1st gear go as high as possible while still maintaining enough power to spin out the wheels from a stop. Then tier following gears so you still have a large power band but not too large that switching to the next gear drops your rpms too low.
I used the gears you recomanded on my 93' Nissan Skyline Gtr V-Spec and it is upgraded to 1000hp and surprisingly it works good! 😂
Thank you very much
I'm currently figuring out the kinks on an AWD 240sx drift build I've been doing and gearing is something that was a little weird since it's the 3.8L Twin Turbo 6 banger. I've been making little adjustments and I think I got it down quite a bit now. Question though, how do speed and acceleration effect drifting differently? My final drive is somewhere in the middle of them both and it seems to handle fine but I wanna know what others may think
Dude, great vids! Could you please share all the tunes you use in your vids? I looked up your tunes for the 240 and only found one, if im not mistaken, the 240 in this vid is a different build the the one i found. Thanks man, keep up the awesome work!
Awesome quality of the video
Oooorrr u could simply put 6th gear as a one to one ratio, (1.00) adjust ur final drive to 170mph not sure for kph, line up the gears using the gear board on the bottom right, and adjust from there, works best for me, also lower HP cars will use a lower mph as a base, 120mph is lowest I've gone with my drift cars that have 200hp.
Okay so I have just started looking into forza and my horizon 4 game should show up in about a day or two so keep in mind I’m very new so I’m sorry if this is a dumb question but I’m really interested in drifting on this game. So I felt like in drift with this car you were going quite slow and when you had a tandem guy come up on you he passed you and you couldn’t get close to him again because it felt like you didn’t have enough speed to stay with him. Is that due to the 240 just not having a ton of power with the engine set up the way you have it or is that a gearing thing that you could somehow fix? If so how would you fix that by tuning the gear ratios?
Hell yeah perfect timing
I know this was a while ago dude but realistically the nova has a solid axel rear end and shouldn't have squat at all in the rear. It would compress yes but not squat like a IRS vehicle.
Can you delve deeper into road tuning please?? Like the affects of higher and lower siffness of anti roll bars?
In your opinion, what's the best drift car in fh4?
The best for points of drift zones are the Viper Formula Drift and the Issetta
Yes,the issetta
And for tandems and freeroaming use anything you like of feel comfortable :)
I'm a big fan of the Twerkstallion FC, gtr32, and the #777 FD 240. But there are a ton of awesome choices out there!!!
Try the Sivlia '00 and the RX7 Spirit (both have body kits), won't get you as many points on a run as the Viper, but are great for tandems, I've had a lot of fun in both.
I'm most comfortable drifting on the mustang gt. Tried it out just to mess around and ended up making leaderboards with it.
Pretty much every car with a near 50-50 weight distribution, RWD and high torque output, a longer wheelbase also helps :) The BRZ is almost perfect for beginners, and FH4 even offers a pre-custom option for it, + the S15 Silvia. The different modern Corvettes and the MB SL65 AMG Black Series are awesome, but you have to be cautious cuz those things will mess you up if you don't pay attention. A fun way I found is swapping an Acura RSX to RWD + the full built Rally engine, it's not as fast but it's fun to drift.
So your saying i may not be trash at drifting, my cars may just be not tuned. Got it 🙏🏻
Looking to start drifting, so I bought the FC, and I see you have one too. I was wondering what your full tune is? Or if I could buy it?
4:32 Please tell me how do you do this?
I mean going straight sideways so you reach that corner.
Do you just aggressively handbrake?
Dude I know right, I want to know how he does it as well
you hold the clutch and hanbrake and accelerate at the same time
You basically abuse both the clutch and handbrake by holding them and accelerating. For example: on my xbox controller i have my handbrake set to a and my clutch set to x. So i hold both of them while accelerating through a corner
@@TheRealMoeru yeah I actually figured it out after playing for a while now I've got it perfected lol and with a really light car you can slide forever!
@@sic6sixboi i just figured it out today lmao. Really lets me extend my drift. Managed to get 500k on needleclimb
Just wondering, what are your upgrades for your skyline 1993?
I use stock gearing but i fiddle with final drive because FD can shunt the powerband back to a normal level (e.g 700+hp cars)
I got completely lost when he said Powerband
Power band is the range of rpms that you make the most power and torque in, consult the graph in engine tuning it's a general trend that the power band is around where the lines intersect
This makes a lot of sense
What type of car is that in the beginning
One gear drifting is what I look at with clutch kick. Once you find your gear lengthen it and use only that gear. Clutch kick is key. You didn't mention that bud. If your just manual you need more accel in final drive. How I do it :]
I prefer to use 3 main gears for drifting with added gears for speed. 1st gear goes to something around 120mph, 2nd gear around 145mph, 3rd gear around 165mph. Really gearing all depends on the torque and hp of the engine. Basically make the 1st gear go as high as possible while still maintaining enough power to spin out the wheels from a stop. Then tier following gears so you still have a large power band but not too large that switching to the next gear drops your rpms too low.
Did you make the design for the FC or what did you search to find it?
I always get so damned close to the scores in your drift zones. But can never quite get them. Also is there any chance I could play Forza with you sometime? I feel like I could learn alot from you.
I suggest a live stream, playing with subs.
@@razvananghel384 gotcha
great tutorial, thanks bro!
Would you say this method is more suited to tighter angled slower corners?? Seems like it wouldn’t give much top end
It can definitely be modified to allow for faster corners, but I will say it definitely is more useful in tighter sections, it loses some of it's value on long sweeping corners etc
Could you make a video on how to upgrade cars to hit max Class PI? I hope this makes sense.
Yeah definitely! This is a video Ive thought about making in the past
@@HokiHoshi If you do then thank you wo much. Weirdly enough I'm not a car guy, I'm a motorcycle guy but I love FH4.
If my optimal gear was 3rd, would I tune the 1st and 2nd gears like normal and then do the rest of them like you said?
Hi man, I usually make really long gears for drifting and they mostly work, but in some cases i lose too much power.
If i was to use short gears, would it help in these situations?
Most likely yeah! with the longer gears chances are good you're getting too low in the rev range (hence the power loss) but with shorter gearing that's a lot less likely to happen
@@HokiHoshi Thank you man soo much. You helped me so much with Forza with your videos and I love your channel very much too.
@@HokiHoshi Hi again, I used the short gears in my 240sx with 600hp, and it works very well on track, but the acceleration of the car is severely slow. I tried lowering the tire pressure and lowering the camber, but it didn't really help. Thanks
So will this work with cars with 7 gears? Im building a 2010 e93 M3 GTS
WOW... JUST WOW MATE
This is no good for someone on a Sim Rig. I use a H pattern shifter with Clutch and wheel. With this method I'm changing gears to much. I personally prefer mainly to use 3rd and 4th gears to drift as they are opposite each other. I use the same method of finding the correct power band for the engine but I will stretch these gears out so I'm always in 3rd or 4th and only ever drop into 2nd for a very tight bend. Hope this helps anyone on a Rig. I find most my drift car set ups are similar with Sport tyres and between 650/800 BHP depending on weight of the car. The lighter the car the lower the power. My PB on needle hill in my Rig was with a BMW E36 RB26 TT maxed out tuning on sport tyres = 476.000k points.
Good job bro 👍
I find the 4 speed Is perfect ( for me ) don't really find myself leaving 3rd and 4th when I'm drifting anyway
That s13 tho 👀👀
Yeah but this is froza horizon. Not GT or some other sim. Just run 6 gears in ever car, keep em real short and have like 3 different gears you can hit 110mph in so you can just ride power constantly
What gearing did you use for the nissan 240sx se?
Do you play with controller or steering wheel
Can you please tell me what your twerkstallion gear ratios are cause my are trash. I try to drift but it just poops itself
Can you tell me the engine upgrade and gear settings and the other stuff at that hoonigans fc rx7 mines just spins around and am trying to get it smoother but is almost imposible😩
Maybe you’re just ass at drifting
Ian yep
Hey you could try the Rx7 Fc in S1 w/AWD for dirt/rally?
Its really good for online
Just wondering if you know how do you tune a drift car with only one gear
Thanks again! Now I know everything :D
Thank you
How'd you get that high score!?
Does anyone think that traction control should be able to be turned on on a single car? If I were to be in a online adventure, I like my Toyota truck to not have traction control cuz it doesn’t let me slide as well. But in a RWD mclaren P1, traction control is needed to be competitive.
i find ur method to work good with low torque vehicles. Otherwise i tune all my cars to 4 and 5 gears and i use the most of my torque and power band.
Hi...
Pls help me
I got my 1st fh4 today.. after watching all drifting videos ...i cant figure out how to do it....bcos every time i try my car just go off the road and slips like ice.....
Good video. Helpful 🙏
Would lengthening the best gear work
Can you make a vid on clutch drifting.i mean im already good at it but i would love more tips.
Like clutch kick
How do you continuously drift like that and how to drift like that
So I have a build that is pretty torquey and, I dont really know what to chhange to improve grip
Is that fortune island?
Why did u put formula drift cars in this video because those cars drift for you
Can you do a drift build on the dodge daytona
so if i wanna drift, what should i upgrade?