I made the NOCTUA 3070 even MORE ridiculous!
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I like the idea of case fans on a GPU, if only because it's so much easier to replace them if they fail.
Eh, if they fail you are most likely going to RMA the GPU assuming it is in warranty. If it is out side that warranty then chances are you are going to get a new card for that generation rather than replace the fans. Though who knows Noctua might make this a full line and then sell replacement fans.
If it's effective, sure why not. I mean the most failures I ever had were the fans anyway I would have loved to have replaceable fans instead of RMAs or buy another card just because of that.
@@EtsuMatsuya i've had a semi broken fan (it wobbles and no longer can go super fast and will ramp up and down if you try to push is past 40%) on my asus strix 2080ti for months now because RMA would be no pc for around 3ish weeks i would LOVE to just pop in a new case fan i could buy anywhere rather than muck about with finding the right asus fan and taking it apart also i could choose cool RGB fans and i would love that
Sapphire has those Quick Connect fans which is great if a fan dies because you can avoid sending the card for a long RMA process. You just get a replacement fan and replace it without disassembling the whole card unnecessarily. I wish more companies would adopt such an approach since just replacing the whole shroud or even the whole card is wasteful if just one fan dies or breaks.
@@ultrawidepcget 2 120mm fans and zip tie it to the cooler :D
Graphics cards with replaceable standard 120mm case fans needs to become a new standard.
The only thing better than that would be cards sold without cooling and you choosing how to cool it yourself just like with a CPU and yes I know there are aftermarket GPU coolers, but they're rarely as straightforward to install and you can't buy a graphics card without an included cooling solution.
I don't know about standard 120mm, low profile 120mm for sure
True, not to say how easy it would be to service when a fan breaks.
for the third party coolers to really happen, then the mounting holes and the board design needs to become standardized
Closest you can get is unfortunately Rajintek Morpheus type coolers and they didn't even sell well enough for people to use them despite their 350W TDP rating or w/e
well, in most cases today, switching coolers around voids your warranty, which puts many people off. but yeah, if GPUs came with no cooler, then there would be nothing to void your warranty.
"This is stupid",,, YES that's why we love you Jay!
@Pierre Lucas he meant it in a good way.
“Thats what Jaytobers all about” 🤣 I actually like the brown fans. I think this is deserving of a nice fully aircooled custom build. Maybe a wooden case? The Noctua Special
Like the red dead redemption case?
@@sopcannon I was thinking more of a refined modern case. Something to go well with all the Ikea streaming setups 🤣
I remember months back one of the featured pcs on PCPP was like an earth tone build with noctua fans and plants, it was pretty cool
Fuck yeah. Jay needs to go old school with a build that’s just beige, brown, and woodgrain.
They look fine on top of the FormDT1
Problem with heatpipes is those are designed to operate at specific in and output temperatures, when the core is at 40*C it just doesn't evaporate much liquid in the pipes, at the same time if the temperature is too high it won't operate any good.
If it would be some solid copper heatsink with no heatpipes you could go down to 5-10*C delta when using those ultra high cfm fans.
That's why a lot of server coolers are just solid with no heatpipes.
The heatpipes are what's keeping it at 40. The problem here is that the heatsink wasn't designed for fans like that. If he could double the fin density it would get cooler, until the heapipes' power rating is maxed out. Heatpipes work until near freezing, if you put a heatpipe CPU cooler on an ice cube and turn the fan on it will melt the ice in a few seconds, pulling the heat from the air and dumping it into the base.
@@alexanderm2702 i would use dry ice thank you
@@alexanderm2702 Might be interesting to just slab a resistive load on the cooler and see how much heat it can actually take.
I've discovered the hard way that if you go much past the designed maximum heat input, the temperature rises suddenly because the vapor in the heatpipes isn't able to condense anymore. Heatpipes are misunderstood in this community, and I'm glad your comment is high enough for people to see it and learn from it.
@@pronewbofficial Yep, if the pipes get too hot then it's basically just relatively thin copper conducting heat over longer distance.
Internet: How crazy can you make that GPU cooler?!
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LMAO
Rather than having to buy a complete card, I'd like to see a proper conversion kit that allows you to upgrade your existing graphics card with one of these coolers. Even if it just swaps the fans and shroud, while retaining the original heatsink. I'm sure you could DiY it, but I'd be more comfortable with something that's designed for the job.
check out the rajintek morpheus coolers. They are what you're looking for (minus the fans)
By the end of Jaytober, we’ll see a Frankenstein 3090Ti cooled with LN2 and delta fans, trick or treat!! 😁
Deltas 🤩
Lol
Noice
"Careful with that machine, the coolant loop isn't as sturdy as I would like and it's somewhat of a prototype. I wouldn't want to try to fill that again."
Looks carefully at the loop. "Huh. Steel pipes? And that radiator doesn't look like anything I've seen before. What are you up to Jay?"
"You are holding the first LN2 cooled PC!"
"OK, now I know you're either of your meds or bullshitting me. I've seen you overclocking using LN2 more times than I care to remember."
"Yea, but that was using a LN2 pot. This time I run the liquid LN2 *in the loop!* The pressure in that thing is hilarious when cranking the voltage and frequency for the the CPU..."
Steps away carefully...
I like the really slow glamour shots of the literally taped-together card.
huh, i was actually expecting him to mount some of the 3000 RPM noctua industrials
yeah me too
You do know Delta Fans are even better in airflow dont't you? Around 150-200 CFM
@@kanutinbonbin okay but when trying to ram air into a radiatior you want static pressure more than you want airflow. It's an obstructed, restrictive path
@@kanutinbonbin okay? but the Noctua industrials actually would have fit properly.
"This taught you absolutely nothing"
Au Contraire! It taught us how good those original fans really are, if they can nearly outperform the overkill Delta fans.
I mean we already knew that when it comes to air cooling and fans Noctua's products are basically witchcraft.
This video made me realise that the noctua 3070 accually makes sense. I hate tiny 80/90mm fans that get really loud. With these you could just change them out to any standard 120mm fan for less db or more airflow. We need more gpus like this :)
Now, in the wait for the 30 Series Card with Noctua Black Ed.
I read that as "Noctua Blacked..." I need to take a timeout from reddit smh
@@LegendaryMike yeah... Reddit... Right.
@@LegendaryMike LMAO smh
@@LegendaryMike shut up and take my money
Apparently UA-cam is literally sniping me, replied twice here, both got wiped despite containing no swear/insult.
I watched a video within 40 seconds of it being posted. Never thought I'd do it.
same
This is how you get top comment
Jay: "We engage in a modicum of tomfoolery"
This has all the hallmarks of a home mod project! retail 120mm fans WITH standard headers, two sided tape. This screams homebrew!
Back when GPU's had single slot width coolers I stuck a intel stock hsf from a pentium 4 onto a graphics card. Probably my GTX7950 but I can't remember which gpu.
Just imagine a 3080/3090 with a triple 120mm cooler. Sag would be an issue, but the performance would be insane
No sag if you use these fans blowing towards the bottom of the case! Worlds first Hovering GPU! 😁
Hand me that 2 x 4 I can fashion a brace of some sort......
@@P0HTAT0 lmao why am I laughing at this.
@@POLARTTYRTM Because that's not how it works but it would be cool as hell.
@@P0HTAT0 because your comment is just so twisted it unbearably funny and it got me laughing for a long time because of how twisted it is. Imagine coolers powerful enough to hover your gpu. Jesus the noise. It's impossible to hold the laugh back thinking about this.
Do a video about reversible cases. I've been considering one because I keep my tower to my left on my desk so I can't see my components. I have been considering reversible or lay-down cases but there isn't a lot of review information on that feature. Should make a good filler video I'd imagine, or maybe you got some interesting and unexpected information. In any case (npi) thanks for pumping out content, I've grown to enjoy your take on things and your team keeps the aesthetic and editing really good, great work guys.
Now make a PC just from double-sided tape Jay. 😂👍
make a pc build with all ryzen cpu stock pc fans haha i know these youtubers have the amout to do it lol
I would really like to see a series of tests with this concept, but various popular 120mm fans :)
For a moment I was really worried for your fingers. Knew you'd whip out the Deltas, and why wouldn't you. But that Tape-Mod killed me - I don't know why. Cheers, Jay and Crew!
Yup I failed at that, one of my fans nearly took my nail off - bled a lot, broke the fan blade but I was fine... Tldr, don't mess around with 4000rpm 200cfm high powered 120mm fans without the shield on it
So nice to see manufacturers do this. Have had 2 cards now which I strapped a Raijintek Morpheus (II) cooler to, with my own selection of 120mm fans. They have all worked identical and like a charm.
More updated water cooling content. Well I enjoy all of your content so. I did enjoy the water cooling for beginners but you should have an intermediate course too.
@JayzTwoCents I love your water cooling content. I want to see more of it. Maybe updated content. Keep up the great work!!!!
this ought to be an interesting review... especially with the fact I want to get myself a graphics card again. time to see something I can't afford currently but eventually it should be affordable...
@@markdavy6172 who knows when they will be affordable again. It’s not looking good.
I finally just got the go ahead to ship back my 2060 Super SC I bought over a year ago to step-up to a 3080. So excited
They could've used slim fans for the shroud and it would've still been amazing.
Jay... the amp rating on a fan is how many amps it can draw. The amp rating on a power supply is how much it CAN push... you could hook that cooler to a normal fan header as long as the voltage was the same and the current draw on those fans were not more than what the header could supply...
Anyone else cringe each time Jay wiggled his digits near the fans? Was just waiting for a load of blood spewing out the sides
I found all aluminum server fans once, 3 amps of 24v. No I didn't buy them.
I would like Jay to invest in fan grills, just to eliminate the cringe.
Whenever I see Jay apply that KPx thermal paste on the GPU die I get a craving for cake frosting.
Hey Jay, quick video suggestion. Would love to see you do a guide on replacing a power supply fan. Majority of the time, psu's will outlast the fan that it comes with, and it's such a waste to replace the entire psu just because of it's noisy fan.
Just open it and unscrew the PSU fan and replace it. Cut and solder the wires for the new fan and screw it in. Done. Easy as I have done several PSU fan changes. Also I definitely don't recommend people do this as power supply current could kill you
The problem is those annoying custom connectors that I can never find.
Something to consider is that the higher speed airflow will not be able to evacuate heat as well as air at slower speeds, as kind of the reverse of if the air is too slow it hits the limit of thermal saturation and can't pull more heat because the air is evacuating too slow. What I was told in my IT course that seems to have worked but I haven't ever been all Gamer's Nexus on it, is if you slightly tilt the fans and cause deflection and air turbulence on the radiating surface, which slows the air in some places and not in others to get a better thermal draw at higher speeds. Assuming it wasn't a tech urban myth, you might want to try that for a video in the future.
I wonder if we'll see other Noctua-brown coolers on GPU's in the future, for higher end cards.
So, Noctua-themed build, when? :P
Silence, power, reliability. Those are my priorities, and that means quiet air cooling. Theres a big reason Noctua has been an essential part of my builds for well over a decade. Ive always spent more of GPUs to try and find the quietest model of top tier cards. A 120mm noctua variant would piss on the regular ones. Also, DUST (or lack of it). Have 3x A12x25s as intake (dialed to max RPM just before audible in silence of night), with EVERY hole taped up all over case. Air only exits via 140mm rear exhaust (at low RPM), GPU vent, and PSU mounted fan side up (1050w seasonic in hybrid mode so fan never needs to turn on). The amount of pressure blowing out the PSU & GPU is enough to almost blow out a lighter flame. So both always 'actively cooled' with no fan turning. I have a dog and very old carpet . Heaps on dust, case on floor. Ive left my case cleaning for a year. You should see the amount of dog fur jammed up in the front grille intake. The dust is insane. Open it up? its crystal clean inside. Even though the intake is filtered , old setups still gathered dust internally like crazy. This setup? dust just doesnt settle. Im leving for extra long and im going to do a reddit post to teach people about he effectiveness of positive pressure. Silent & clean. (8700k at 5ghz) (its been the longest time without CPU upgrade in over 20 years - im waiting on Alder Lake.
I strapped two 90mm fans to an ATI X800 about 17 years ago. It went from thermal shutdowns to overclocking beast. Unfortunately there’s a point of diminishing returns with air or liquid, two beast server fans will provide excellent cooling at the cost of long term hearing damage and possibly a chunk of your finger. I’ve played around with 5500 RPM fans before and they’re no joke.
Next video: Run it passively and see if the CHONKY heatsink is enough to keep temps reasonable without fans.
YES. That's exactly what I was wondering as well when I saw that card.
it wont
@@thqp What makes you so sure? I mean, yeah, it's definitely gonna thermal throttle at some point, but I'm sure you could do it.
@@arnox4554 - just go into the settings and move the fan slider all the way to the right.
Love how youtubers are learning about putting 120mm fans on GPUs. You all should check out the Morpheus II coolers. Had them on my R9 Fury and even on a Radeon VII with noctua chromax fans.
@LabRat Knatz I remember my first oil PC. That was almost 20 years ago. I had the artic accelero as well. Those things worked great and a lot quieter. I might slap that or the Morpheus II on my 3060 to see what it does.
kept watching wondering of Jay was going to lose a finger to the delta fans
4:12 JAY WHAT ARE YOU DOING! I could foresee those hoodie tabs going in...!
It would be great is this was normal. An actually simple performance boost and repair friendly solution to the mess that GPU coolers are.
I mean its for a good reason. This thing is already 4 slots thick and because most case fans are 25mm thick they take a ton of space
i just can't unsee the owl anymore, especially with the jaytober sounds. thanks Jay.
Every time I see a graphics card I stare at my pc with a gap we’re there should be a graphic’s card
3:23 Jay needs more Zip-Ties in his life!
Exactly what I was thinking! Especially since he's a car guy too, he should have some laying around. They would look a LOT better than packing tape 🤣.
Noctua: We've created the ultimate cooler. 😁
Jay: Hold my double sided tape! 🤪
Noctua and ASUS: He used Deltas!!! 😳😳 He's a genius!
Noctua should definitively create fan kits for various gpus.
Let me guess, you strapped some delta fans onto that bad boy. :D
I was god damn right. xD
LOL I love thumbnail Jay vs profile pic Jay
One so serious and the other the exact opposite
"Your suggestion made it into a video that taught us absolutely nothing" but so worth it, anyway
Jay: Nick get the packing tape!
Me: ooh are you packing up my free graphics cards? 👀
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Just give in to the brown and beige and do a build with that color scheme.
It might be interesting to see what happens if you put the various types of fans you showed in that other video on this to show how well or poorly the various types perform.
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@@phillipbrown3852 you get a like for having Manchester pfp, even thought we got destroyed by Liverpool this weekend.
What's funny about this card is IIRC they based it off the Dual or something like that, added a thicker finstack and thicker standard fans. Theoretically, you could take this shrough design with slim 120mm fans on the Dual and have a regular little-less-than-3 slot card.
You can do it to near on any GPU cooler, some have non-flat fins that can change how you mount the case fan but other than that bit of tape to fill in gaps of the shroud, and you are done.
@@wobblysauce Hah! Yeah, it was the life saver of my old R9 280X. Sadly, some models have their fans sunk into the fins, which makes it REALLY annoying to put a normal fan anywhere on it without making the whole card irritatingly thick.
Am I first
Looks like it, but why does it matter?
Perhaps
no 2nd and no one cares lol
Love ads when Jay says “chill the f-“ a Ford ad pops up.
Jay, your wolf howl start up gets my German Shepherds fired up. I'm unsure whether I like it or not, but I love your videos.
Idea for the video that debuts on Oct 31. Name it 31 "Jays" of Jaytober. And then Phil somehow uses an effect to show 30 Jays coming out of a portal to join the current Jay that is there. And then it breaking the space time continuum with explosions everywhere cuz the universe can only handle one Jay at a time.
Idk if its already been done yet but a pc with all delta fans would be a fun experiment
Jay, please continue experimenting with your tech. You have answered so many questions I never knew I wanted answered.
I have boxes of those fans. They will actually hover if you power them up on a flat surface.
Add those super powerful case fans from that over video with this. Like make a mega fan set up. Fans on GPU, fans on the case, fans everywhere.
What people don't realize is the cooler has to move the heat from the die on the board all the way up to fins and for the air to be there long enough to soak up the heat before exiting. Adding more CFM/MMH2O works to a point of diminishing returns due to the efficiency of the cooler itself across the total surface area. This is what Jay was demonstrating in the video. This is why getting a delta fan makes sense for servers as they have massive passive arrays that need lots of airflow through the chassis. Equally, a gpu fin stack is designed for a set surface area and temp output range it can handle. It's cool(get it 😂) to show people with results rather than going over it in abstract like someone else may like. It's a more approachable way to present the knowledge to people rather than someone feeling like their video suddenly turned into a thermal dynamics 3020 homework lecture.
Now that I have a Morpheus II cooler, I'll never spend more on a GPU just because the cooler design is better.
I love your modding/min maxing content, I can’t wait for next gen cards just for your overclocking competition vids. Reminds me of car modding.
Jay, that is so much for demonstrating the problem with using a mismatched fan and heatsink!
That actually taught us a lot. It taught us that faster fans doesn't always = lower temps.
I just wanted to say thanks to you @JayzTwoCentz for all the great videos and content you put out!!! I have been subscribed to your channel for almost a year now and back then I had very little PC-Tech knowledge. Now, in large part thanks to your videos I finally got confident enough to build my own PC which I just finished 2 days ago! Not quite ready to do Water-Cooling yet, but I put together an air-cooled beast!!! Thanks!
1:16 should have had a tiny explosion when he put the bit on the screw
Also, I like that Asus just went full ham on the brown Noctua theme. You just know instantly that there's something Noctua on that card and that's a good thing.
Stick some industrial PPC 3000 rpm fans in there and then you've got something REALLY special.
Thank you to Jay and the team. This channel is so fun. This is an especially fun idea and I appreciate all the work that went into it. Keep it up guys!
Strapped two lian li uni fans to my 980ti and I can definitely attest to 23c at desktop, it's fantastic, I never want to go back to traditional air coolers on video cards. I hope companies see this and go for 120mm fans on all cards
Even without watching the video, it was obvious that it wouldn't change much. The reason why the Noctua 3070 works so well, is that the heatsink is modified, not the coolers. The Noctua fans are awesome due to the noise ratio. that's all it is.
3:09 "Science is just a series of failures" ~Jay 2021
When you told Phil to shutup I lost it😂😂😂
“My channel is science!” Screwdrivers and duct tape, lol. We still love ya Jay!
The way he says this video is sponsored by..."ME"😂😂
jaytober is great. look forward to these videos after work
Thanks so much for doing exactly as I asked on the last video. I was dying to see the cooler swapped to a different card. So thanks for hearing us Jay you Da Man.
Another good choice on fan swap is the Noctua Industrial black fans than run at 3000rpm, they will fit in and push higher airflow if required, not as much as the Deltas, but somewhere in the middle.
OMG!!! JayZ actually made a video that was shorter than 10 minutes! I never thought it was possible!
Gentle Typhoons would be a nice aesthetic in there, black, good looking PWM or voltage control fans (depending on sku), quiet, and are very closely matched with performance to the Noctuas.
Phil, you have such a loud laughter, like relax.
This was an interesting video. It helps me get more bolder on my PCs . Hope to see more videos even if they’re repeats . I’ve been watching all ur older videos. Thanks again
I love how I never have to skip through your videos. They’re great from start to finish.
There was a channel called "the nostalgia critic". "I remember it so you don't have to" was his tag line. In that spirit, no jay you didn't do a video to tell us nothing. You did it so we don't have to :D
Asus Guy: ' I'll have you know, that is high quality double sided tape ' 🤪
Technically learning that something don't work is still learning lolz. Laughed hard at jay's evil genius laugh.
3:42 I´M THE MOTHERBOARD NOW!!!!
Since the regular Noctua fans have colors that don't match well with stock cases and other hardware, it would be interesting to see someone go the reverse route and custom paint the hardware to match the fans -- a Noctua-themed build. :)
I paused it as soon as I saw those grilles on the "replacements". I'm going to "un-pause" the video after I finish this comment and pray to all that is holy, that those are deltas 😂😂😂
DELTA IT IS!!!!! HELLLLLLL YEAAAAA
3D print the shroud and measurements to retro fit the 3080ti/3090 and give it a whirl. I know you can do it man!!
04:12 - Jay about gets his hoodie strings sucked into the fans...
Jays Comment at the end of the Video .. Spot On
But Jay, if you get your hair anywhere near the fans, free haircuts! Free beard trimming? Free facial reconstr... no ... wait ... that's what you need to FIX what happens if you get too close to that cooler. And unless you live someplace cool, like Canada, probably not free. Never mind on that one. But the first two! Totally worth it? Maybe? A little? Oh, never mind.
But ... but ... but ... if you used liquid metal...
'It's gonna be fine', but if the blades are in any way damaged, on a high powered, high speed fan like the Delta... Run. Run as fast as you can.
If that damage is more severe than it looks, the blades might just snap off at some point. And with the speed they are spinning at, they might become projectiles.
You should put some some 4 inch fan grill on those fans . Man there are like fingers grainder
EVERY TIME Jay moves its hand to the GPU I grind my teeth thinkin it could move to the fan... PUT THE SHIELD!
Putting a pair of Corsair RGB fans in there and syncing them with the rest of your case fans would be fantastic. Especially in a vertical GPU orientation.
Debauer did that a few weeks ago
The joy of DIY! Modify anything you can!!!
Dr. FrankinJay and his Monster. Science is just a series of failures. (Insert maniacal laugh here)
Even on the original layout, another 5 to 10 mm of shrouding down over the fins would likely help. A lot of the air is going straight out the sides while barely touching the fins!
On a side note. ALL GPU coolers should just use standard case fans as a matter of course and in fact they should just sell them sans fans.
I've had decent success of 2-3C by putting thermal paste, tightening the cooler down, running a benchmark for 30 minutes, then re-tightening the cooler. You're right that the thermal paste squishes out a bit more when it gets hot.