Remember when Tony Stark being selfish and promiscuous were considered a really bad thing and he had to find true meaning in his life by saving people? Good old days.
Don't forget alcoholism. Back in the comics he was just awful with it. Lost his company, walked into a snowstorm, saw a woman die, had to take care of a baby in said snowstorm. Kinda crazy how bad that was.
@@biecie Speaking of alcoholism, you know whose alcoholism was muuuch worse (disastrous, even)? Carol Danvers's. She used to get so drunk, she couldn't even safely fly (and I mean safe for everyone else). She became extremely promiscuous too, and even almost instigated a fight between Wolverine and Tony back when he was hyped up on extremis.
This was a real quote from Twitter. "Honestly love how She-Hulk absolutely refuses to be the show those geeks want it to be" This is a show written by the bullies who picked on the nerds and geeks in school. The fans of the She-Hulk show don't really like it. They _love_ dunking on 'incels.' That is their only source of joy for this awful show. Making other people sad who just wanted to see a character they like get a nice show. How horrible of those misogynistic men to want writers to put in effort. 😑 I can't stand those bigots on twitter. They are all selfish jerks.
I just wanted it to be like the comics and it fails even that. I was fine with a female-focused lawyer sitcom show. I didn’t need her to be Action Girl all the time, but I at least expected it to be actually funny. Like if the show is refusing to operate under its own basic premise as a “legal comedy/drama” then what am I watching?
@@Kaweebo A show made by narcissists for people who think everyone who criticizes the show is a "white, misogynistic incel." Even the women, people of color, and married fans who don't like it somehow fit that category. 🤨
But it fails even to be the show "the geek didn't want". Like, why nowadays can't we just say a show is bad or a writer is incompetent without some weird psychological or social justification? Like sometimes you do a bad job, get over it, Misogyny has nothing to do with it.
*Skaar's intro in the comics:* (crash lands on Earth with a big-ass sword, looking like Conan the Barbarian) _Where's my dad? I'm gonna kill him!_ *Skaar's intro in this:* (looking like a shy kid who just wants to play his Game Boy) _Daaaaad, this is embarrassing..._
@@DoctorInk20 In defence of post 2007 comics: Not all of them are garbage (though the majority are). For example, Batman: The Court of Owls and Batman: The City of Owls were both released post 2007, and they're damn great comics.
The logic behind the writing is so self-centered and purely ego driven. "Of course Dennis hated me, he wanted to sleep me with and I didn't want to" "Of course Todd hated me, he wanted to bang me AND be the Hulk" They never stopped to consider that there was something wrong with the character saying those lines its actually amazing how blind they are to what is a fairly simple problem.
I love how she calls the writers creepy for saying they'll die for K.E.V.I.N., but she straight up said she'd kill for Megan Thee Stallion. Okay Jen, sure, whatever.
It’s actually pretty much in character. What they say strange to her because it implies self sacrifice, what she said is about what she will do to someone else.
@@maryh7187 Unlike you, I did. And no. She doesn’t call the writers creepy. She says the way they’re talking about K.E.V.I.N.is creepy. But even pushing that aside, how is this SO hilarious after her saying she’d kill for Megan Thee Stallion, when even the show said she was going too far with that? It’s crazy how this show isn’t even plot driven but instead comedy driven, and yet you dumbasses can’t even follow THAT much. You’re literally too dumb to grasp something a five-year-old could.
All of the dumb bitches behind this show stopped growing intellectually at 14. Penning a dumb, cringy fanfic when you're in middle school is par for the course for most people, especially girls, when they enter fandom but we grow out of that shit. Or at least, we're supposed to.
Poor Matt. I watched the Daredevil series, so I remember how lonely he was and how much each relationship meant to him. Seeing how Jen drags him into all this just because "aww he is hot, and we're gonna smex" leaves a bad taste. I mean, we'd hate for a male self-insert to bend the script just so he could have sex with an established, complex, and beloved female protagonist just because "she is sexy and she WILL sleep with him", why should we feel any different for Jen?
She-Hulk: "I want him (Emil) to be held accountable." Also She Hulk: *breaks the fourth wall to change the show to how she wants it so she's not held accountable for any of her mistakes*
Imagine being one of the CGI guys that work for Marvel. You're over worked, under paid, and threatened with being replaced. That's just the baseline of your job. Now imagine being mocked by the WRITERS of the show you're working for. You bust your but trying to cover up their garbage writing with pretty visuals, and you're rewarded by saying you're not cheap enough. Holy hell.
When one of Todd's arms grows large and drags on the floor reminded me of the live action scooby doo movie when scrappy doo turned into a super scrappy doo because of the demon raytus!
I remember a Boondocks episode, the one where grandpa was dating a crazy bitch. Later we find out she's got a terrible friend who gives just the worst advice. That's She Hulk's female friend.
And these people said word for word, that they have no. fucking. clue. on how to write for this show. They can't do law or superhero scenarios. You have writers working on a show that can't write for the show. This should tell you everything you need to know about what Marvel thinks of their audience. They think you're braindead boot-lickers that'll eat up anything they put out.
This. Because if a character was stupid or boring, they got rid of it after a few issues. But She-Hulk perdured because the stories were interesting and the fact she is a woman made you look at the other supers from a different perspective. It wasn't high literature, but interesting and fun. This show is a bad, boring sitcom.
Have you ever seen a show where a protagonist doesn't want to be held accountable for her actions, so she literally stops the show and forces the writers to rewrite the show so she gets all the cookies and also letcures the audience what they should and shouldn't like? No? Lucky you...
@@michaelstrong5383 "No no no, you don't get it. We had good and likeable characters in the MCU before, now we get obnoxious narcissists that spit on their graves. It's super smart subversion of expectations! Who would buy a subscription or ticket to watch that, you ask? Uh... You're a bigot." -Average Shulk Stan
@Hatesh Warkio I literally just wrote about that. They have him do 10 years in jail, when Jen does the same thing, and is rewarded witn another job? These writers had to write the last scene of Abomination escaping because they are all hypocrites!
She-Hulk somehow manages to ruin the worldbuilding of the MCU even more by repealing the Sokovia Accords, which renders the Civil War film entirely meaningless now. You'd think that, after the events of Phase 4, the UN would want even more regulations and restrictions placed on superpowered individuals, because in the eyes of the average person, they clearly can't control themselves. And after what Wanda did in Westview - *_enslaving an entire town of over 3,000 people_* - and what Jennifer did in Episodes 6 and 8, which was start a fight at a *wedding reception hall* and *destroy the top level of a parking garage and multiple cars,* public opinion of superpowered individuals would be *down.* And now this finale has made the entirety of She-Hulk season 1 pointless. Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts 2 somehow take the idea of fucking with people's memories more seriously than the MCU, now.
The issue they would run into that could have been interesting is how incredibly impractical the accords may be. Sure, Wanda doing what she did is definitely something you would think the accords were written for, to prevent something like that. However, just because the document says "don't do that", how is the government going to stop her realistically with the level of power you're dealing with? Unless you get the cooperation of someone like Strange, who would most likely disregard the accords due to dealing with threats from other dimensions that the government isn't even considering. Otherwise, what, are they gonna get a Black Widow or Sam Wilson to try and stop her? Not likely. It would be interesting to see that play out and what lengths the government would go to in order to try and enforce these things. Instead, we got...nothing.
Bro. How did we go from Logan 2017 masterclass to this. And people actually shit on Logan in places. The fact people have to act like She-Hulk is a masterclass is insulting to those marvel properties
@ R M Thats just may be the dumbest argument I have ever heard. If I make up a show about a character constantly raping people and getting away with it, you don't think people would have a problem with it? They would literally say the writer of this show is warped and disgusting!
We should always be allowed to criticize things, especially if we love it. We just want it to be better. Unfortunately for Disney and Marvel, myself and many others don't even care anymore.
@@RM-cn8pw umm I’m talking about the show, not the comics…and I never said I read the comics, because I haven’t, at least not yet. I am totally aware she does this kind of thing, especially with the Jon Byrne run, but the show makes her look like a Karen! Because she’s acting like a Karen!
@@somerandomsmarta556 You’re actually talking about neither, since it’s clear you haven’t watched the show. Evidenced by you making up a scene that never happened where Jen “goes full Karen.” If you were aware that she does this kind of thing, then your comment wouldn’t exist. So cut the shit. And no. The show doesn’t make her look like a Karen, because again no. Nowhere does she ever once act like a Karen. t’s concerning that you’re clearly terminally online yet don’t know what a Karen is.
@@RM-cn8pw Dude (at least I’m assuming you are)…it’s a fucking joke, for a show that is not worth either of our time. If you wanna defend a really bad show that is supposed to be a legal comedy yet has zero understanding of the law, has one of the most selfish protagonist in all of the MCU, and tries to act all progressive yet uses so many bad stereotypes, by all means. I for one want better content from people who are capable of doing so. if you wanna defend a show that is actually progressive, funny, and well written, go watch Agent Carter; because this show was garbage
@@somerandomsmarta556 Jokes typically have to be based in some form of reality to work, genius. Also, not sure where, other than your ass, you got that I want to defend a really bad show, since none is being discussed. As for this show though, you’re further admitting you haven’t watched it with your lie that it has zero understanding of the law. And how exactly does Jen not wanting her life fucked up make her “the most selfish protagonist in all of the MCU”? Holy shit, are you brain-dead. That’s like calling someone selfish for not wanting to get raped. You’re literally the exact type of misogynist this show calls out. “and tries to act all progressive yet uses so many bad stereotypes” Admission number one million that you haven’t watched the show, since no stereotypes, bad or otherwise, are used in it. And given the fact that you’ve not only shown you’re bigoted but are literally following a racist UA-cam channel kinda makes you complaining about made up stereotypes a bit hypocritical.
I hate that Daredevil suit. I get that they wanted to pay tribute to the older comic books where he wore the yellow costume, but it looks hideous in live action.
Let's just take a second to highlight the fact that Jen went out of her way to look at the camera to brag about banging Matt Murdock; if the genders were reversed, people would be outraged calling this sexist
@@muigokublack6487 or just do it to everyone, like South Park. Everyone gets their licks in that show, or at least they used to. I haven't seen it in quite some time, so I don't know how it has changed or not.
I don’t have a problem with her sexualizing Matt like that, BUT she would have a problem if it was the other way around. If the show established that she was fine being ogled at then there would be no problem. Let everyone have their sexy time!
"I can control my anger INFINITELY more than you"....🤦🏾♂️🤣. There could've been a REAL SHOW HERE. So unfortunate the writers couldn't Walk and Chew Gum at the same time.
Hulk's son, his hair when I saw first him, got the biggest laugh I've gotten out of this entire crapshoot of a show I've never watched. Hulk Fans And She Hulk fans have been kicked in the reproductive organs enough to be rendered sterile.
The inhibitor is a plot hole. Hulk specifically said that he calibrated his inhibitor specifically for him and that's why he can't make one for Jen. But somehow Damage Control has several of those? They weren't working with Bruce, he was in space.
Well so is "king incel" becoming Hulk which according to this series itself required a genetic mutation specific to Bruce Banner/Jennifer Walters family not held by the general populace to even be able to absorb. Then again considering she 4th walls breaks out of that fight who even knows if this is considered "canon" to what actually happened at that point. Or maybe the fact he turned into Quasi-Hulk is because he wasn't compatible though I got the feeling that failing to synthesise the gamma radiation would end up more like exploding/death/much worse mutations.
@@InDeathWeLove it reminds me of Flux from the Hulk comics, but like you said a gamma radiation event would be needed to be able to handle Hulk-based genetics/serums.
She-Hulk: "I'm great at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you" Same She-Hulk that destroys gala night after someone leaks her sex tapes. Same She-Hulk that brags about banging Daredevil. By the way, that Asian dude Jen was thinking about? He just disappears from the show. Like a CTRL+X command on a PC. This show isn't just shit. It's a cinematic vomit. I thank God it's over!
Oh yeah, remember when she outright tried to murder Daredevil by throwing cars at him and destroying a parking lot (which could’ve gotten others killed)? Yup, the epitome of mental control. It’s funny because in this commentary, they basically say that if a woman had a man’s strength, that’s what would happen. Men are prone to violence and we have to keep everything in check, even if something really bad is happening to us, or else someone gets severely hurt or dies. That’s why weak men snap and kill their girlfriends when they’ve been slighted. It’s hilarious how they don’t even notice what they’re saying.
The worst part about the season finale of She-Hulk is that Jen has the audacity to talk about accountability but when it came to her taking accountability for nearly killing her coworkers and family in a fit of rage she tried to justify it as "I was angry". This character is written like she has borderline personality disorder. Nothing is ever Jen's fault and when push comes to shove, Jen, despite her toxicity, makes herself out to be the victim in order to justify her poor decisions and everyone has to accept her version of reality. It's no wonder the only people who like this show are just like Jen. They bully people who criticize the show and when they get push back for their behavior, they hide and claim "sexism and mean trolls are being mean to me". These new Marvel fans are all the people who peaked in high school.
Flips out when confronted with the _truth_ of her own actions. It wasn't even faked or gaslighting. Accountability is anathema to the wine-aunts who wrote this.
I thought most people who tried the Hulk's blood died... And only a few can synthesize it enough to not die. Wouldn't it make more sense that Todd would die from injecting himself with radiation rather than turn into a hulk?
It is crazy how many people on Reddit defend the show and go all "LOL, the show predicted the incels and trolls the show would attract. Baited! Exposed! Genius! Everything people were criticizing was a calculated move by the writers to lure the incels into whining. LOLOLOLOLOL" And it just absolutely baffles me. It was like reading a forum full of loony conspiracy theorists.
The other thing is like...okay, yeah, they knew the "trolls" would complain about trash writing and trash characters...so they wrote a trash show with trash characters?
I was hoping that the final villain would be someone like General Ross, The Leader, or literally any actual Hulk connected villain that would make the ending somewhat enjoyable; it's my own fault for clinging on to hope
General Ross being an antagonist of sorts would have been interesting. The big conflict could have been about Ross attempting to enforce the accords and Jen dealing with the legal fallout of his decisions and whether he's doing the right thing or if his attempt to do right is doing more harm than good, or whether his methods of enforcement are even legal. What rights do these people who choose to break the law to do good have? Those following the accords could also run into issues of feeling their hands are tied and maybe someone is hurt because of their inability to act in time and they go to Jen for help. All sorts of things they could have done just with Ross and Jen never having to throw a punch at each other directly.
I remember a Boondocks episode, the one where grandpa was dating a crazy bitch. Later we find out she's got a terrible friend who gives just the worst advice. That's She Hulk's female friend.
what are you talking about it’s getting universally panned by almost everyone. twitter bots aren’t real people, in the real world either nobody watched this garbage or they thought it was bad to meh
And those bots are making more mess of discussions! They working like a Trolls! Motives obviously a ATTENTION! We need spread more honest opinions and trying do not feed those bots!
Not even joking, made a post on tumblr calling out how Jen sexualising Captain America to the point she was obsessed if he died a virgin or not (and said it would be bad if he did basically cause...he's hot), how Jen basically cat-fished a guy when making an account for She Hulk cause she failed to get dates as Jen and how she basically drags Matt back into the show cause she has needs/basically only wanted him back so she could have sex with him, was bad and if the genders were swapped, people wouldn't be okay with it- and what did I get? A She Hulk stan on my post defending Jen and such and accusing me of making everything about Jen's gender and putting words in my mouth basically and I gave up responding to them after one response cause their response to that response was just...you'd have a better conversation with a wall then she hulk stans is all I'm saying.
That's the thing about the complete 4th-wall break at the end of the episode. They've completely obliterated any and all tension for all possible future seasons, because when the shit hits the fan, the audience will be wondering: "Well, why doesn't she just break the 4th wall again and bitch out the writing team?" Disney should cut their loses and cancel the show, because they can't use that plot contrivance again.
1:22:25 "The powers aren't the villian, he is." and yet I'd bet all of the people who worked on She-hulk would be 100% on board with the thought process that 'people don't kill people, guns kill people'.
Hey J, couple things. You know how Jen has that "Erin Brockovitch" poster in her childhood bedroom in order to signify how she's idolized strong female lawyers from an early age? Well, my family is from Hinkley, the town that movie's about, and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that we all have huge problems with that film and Erin Brockovitch herself. That case didn't really fix anything for anyone, and the town is still dying. If Jen were a good lawyer, or the show's creators cared about making her look like one, Jen would never have that poster in her bedroom. Just a fun detail for you. Also, friendly suggestion, it might be a good idea to maybe have at least a couple notes, or to review what you're going to be reading before hitting record, just so you don't get tripped up as much as you did reading those leaks. At the very least it might help for these longform unedited rants, though I personally think it's fine for the live reaction stuff during NOCs.
Or, if the show's writing were better, Jen would have a character building moment with someone mocking her for having that poster where she tells them she hopes to not be like that woman. Idk.
@@TheeOK1 Also a good idea. I think the worst parts of Phase 4 are all the potential opportunities for interesting moments that are squandered. Jen being someone with negative role models and therefore having a negative outlook on people telling her what to do, and then meeting Matt who teaches her about something in a positive way and serves as a positive role model, could've been a really cool character interaction. But no, we got what we got.
You know - you'd think if they're trying to figure out who's behind Intelligencia/who Hulk king is, the first person they'd investigate/track down would be Josh (the guy who was clearly behind the leaked sex tape, as he's literally shown setting up the camera phone to record his nookie with Jen). They only find out later when Hulk King himself admits to having hired Josh to steal Jen's blood/make the sex tape. (the writers really did make Jen and her associates grade A morons for never once even considering that was a possibility and tracking Josh down through Lulu - as he was part of her wedding party; instead of the convoluted idea of Nikki leaking more embarrassing content about Jen to the folks who tried to ruin her bestie's life and having Pug pose as the leaker to get inside the group). If they do get a season 2; they should stick to that 'it was all a dream' idea - however, make season 1 that dream sequence and make season 2 Jen's real life; it's a great way to fire this abysmal season 1 writing team and hire a new writing team that will show SheHulk and the cast of characters some respect.
As much happiness as that would fill me, you and I both know that they think this show is a massive success and are going to release another 2 seasons until someone does something stupid.
offtopic but J, I really like listening to you, even without edits. If you ever feel like doing an unedited rant again (on literally anything) again, you have my full and unadulterated support.
Look at what they did to Skaar! He’s just another random Hulk rather than his comic counterpart who’s basically Conan the Barbarian given the Hulk’s powers
Watching Jen Fuck up the Security protecting Kevin made, me laugh Harder. She hulk isn't a fighter or "Saviour" in show, she only ever gets Physical for her Client (as a Lawyer.) Any other time SHE-Hulk ruins the Flying Fisted Fun or she's Fallen victim to Titania's "Bullying." So it Warps the scenario and context into She-Hulk is OP enough to alter the Fates. Also a lawyer resorts to abuse/Violence in order to Secure Her Own Objectives with Motives!
My money is on they intended to play on the Marvel TV show trope where "The show was good but they fucked up the ending." which is what people say about shit like WandaVision or Moon Knight, etc. How Marvel just doesn't know how to make a proper ending that they just forgo all the show's build up or character arcs, for a big slap fest. The problem here is SHE-HULK was never anything better than a mess of a comedy with no meat to chew on. So ending on such a nonsense note, isn't out of the norm for the quality the show has presented. A bad show getting a bad ending is expected. A good show betting a bad ending is a let down.
Jsyk, the cancer thing with Jane Thor is actually canon in the comics. Though its written a little bit better, only a little, in that she's already at stage 4/dying and mjonir can't fix that. Only abate it. Shit still sucks tho
I have a theory about why writing in these circles has devolved to this level of parody. These people do not read anything worth reading. They don't read good short fiction, good literature, good pulp, good genre fiction, good scripts, or good comics. I am pretty sure these hacks only read twitter, gossip columns, teenage fan fiction, and ghost written books by feminist pseudointellectuals.
Jen in episode 1 "I control my anger infinitely more than you wahhhh" doesn't listen to Bruce. Jen now in prison for not controlling her anger..wait will the writers admit she should have listened to Bruce?! That Jen was wrong? Of...fking..Course.. not.. Just feel bad for poor poor Jen God damn it.
All that just to murder the mystique of Daredevil. He's supposed to be something of an urban legend, only spotted at night, and here he is waving to some bitch on Twitter like he's the Toronto Batman.
Even if the first episode was setting up her outburst (her turning green after her rant in episode one), it makes zero sense. After everything that Bruce went through as a hulk, he would NOT have left her on her own so quickly. Bets on him being blamed for "not warning her enough" if he comes back to the show?
1:10 yeah that was one of the worst part since it´s supossed to take place in the "real world" so She-hulk just flat out killed those poor people who were just doing their job for...what? cause it wasn´t even a joke, it comes more like she´s too coward to fight the abomination and the Incel Hulk villain and instead assualts people waaaay weaker than her...our hero, everyone! SIGH
Imagine messing up so badly in life that you have to go full Karen on essentially the God of your universe, you get Jen Walters: A person immune to the consequences of accountability.
The actual She-Hulk IP consists of laughs, fourth wall breaks, actual court trials, etc. I don't know why they didn't fully capitalize on this, it could've blended so well with the rest of the MCU and the events it sets up. Genuinely upset that they ruined yet another potentially profitable series due to hiring showrunners that only care about some MeSsAgE
Big question, They have a sex tape of she hulk but doesn't set up an only fans? Idk I'd make a lot of money off irl superhero. It's scummy sure but if they're villains I mean atleast be completely evil. This is softcore evil like a highschool bully not a pure evil group.
I mean, that in itself is completely silly and petty at worse. On brand for someone like Reverse flash in a parody. Or venture bros but that's about it.
@@TheeOK1 I mena you call it silly and petty I call it pure evil to violate a person's personal moment of vulnerability and sell it for profit while making her naked body a show for anyone with a few spare coins. Then to have that also revealed with the fact you're a lawyer and your professional carrier is unconseually sullied by the fact you are Boe eternally sexualized. Like imagine you become mia khalifia but you never consented to making the tape. That's pretty bad.
That's because the people behind the show are writing what they know, which is petty high school drama bullshit. None of them have the imagination to write an actually evil villain.
@@TheeOK1 "On brand for someone like Reverse Flash in a parody." Bro Reverse Flash never takes proper advantage of his powers in any of the official stuff.
It's a train wreck christ lord!, they literally destroyed their entire well built universe in one show. It is so ridiculous that it deserves a round of applause 👏 for the dumpster fire it turned out to be. 😂
I'm not sure the MCU could be called well built, but this makes all the things that don't work & don't make sense unavoidable even to the most casual of viewers.
Wonder why they gave her a Midsummer Night's Dream poster instead of a poster for the Shakespearean comedy where the female lead saves the male leads through her genius lawyering and then outsmarts them all 🤔 maybe they know as much about Shakespeare as they do the law, or maybe there was something else in that play that they didn't particularly like.
In a world where Jeff (I swear it’s not Lex Luthor) Bezos has a sex tape and no one really cares does having a superhero sex tape really matter? Yeah it’s a legal issue but it would barely register in the public consciousness especially when she was in human form.
@@Zero_2500 it’s not public but it was used as evidence in his divorce settlement I believe. I’m not saying you want to watch it but in the post Kardashian landscape it doesn’t hold the same social stigma that it once did.
Luke Cage has incapacitated people by just swatting them on the forehead. That scene where she is beating the hell out of them was unnecessary. From 1:09:22
One cool experiment is watching the daredevil's scenes in She-Hulk, and then go back to Daredevil season 2 and watch any scene with Daredevil arguing against the Punisher (in particular the one where he is mourning in tears his daughter) and experience the tonal whiplash.
That or the rooftop scene where he and the Punisher are arguing over what's right or wrong. I know it's an overdone meme at this point, but this show really *"massacred my boy".*
All those Disnoids creaming themselves over the supposed setup for Planet Hulk, I'm sure they'll be real happy to know they dumpstered that entire plotline.
I'm starting to question what the biggest franchise is becoming, I really do feel like there choosing quantity over quality, I can't see She-Hulk having a plot of the story.
They are probably treating the MCU as they treated star Wars, thinking is a fail-proof goldmine. So instead of improving or creating new stories, they just make products based on the IP. Basically harmless, gray, movies or series created to be sold but not to tell a story or entertain. That's why they are so full of cameos to old franchises and generally go nowhere story-wise.
@@Femmeaesthetic Seriously, not every damn story needs to be tied into each other. It's okay for stories to just be their own thing. Self contained and with a classic three act structure. Imagine other franchises trying this mass MCU tie-in garbage. The stories would be a train wreck.
Bet they are going to try bullying her into self deletion and they'll compare that with how many times Bruce tried while saying she hulk experience was worst and making straw man arguments from people reviewing the show
1:03:00 A romantic comedy where the lead sleeps with a different dude every other episode. 1:08:00 She calls it creepy that the writers would die for Kevin, but she herself literally said she would kill for Megan the Stallion.
The second bit is in character. What they said is about self sacrifice, she can’t wrap her mind around that. What she said is about harming someone else, which she’s showcased she’s fine with.
I hate she can rewrite the whole ending, dictate how it all goes and she erases everything but Abomination braking his parole.. no, she can't undo his mistake, he has to stand responsible for his choices and go back to jail.
the entire show comes off as insecure. They constantly include internet discourse in their episodes, and considering VFX that HAS to take months to be done, they preemtively had to "strike back" by making up criticism inside their heads.
10:55 I feel like it was even worse than that. She wasn't just being told not to freak out, she was offered a simple guide on HOW to not freak out, by someone who had been there before, but kept saying she didn't need help. I wish they hadn't edited out Hulk's return, so we could of seen his reaction to seeing her reaction just like "😑🤦🏻 god freaking damnit Jen......fucking ..FINE! TURN THE SHIP AROUND!MY DUMBASS COUSIN FUCKED UP!" (though to be slightly fair, I feel like Bruce would of freaked out over a leaked sex tape too. Maybe if Mr Tall, Dark, and Handsome Tinder date had his sex tape leaked he wouldn't care, but Bruce the softie would freak out.
Just saw the last episode and honestly I'm not mad or even shocked because the whole show has been objectively bad. But after seeing that ending I'm just genuinely embarrassed for everyone involved. Apart from Charlie Cox hands down best thing in the show.
Yes, I remember the season where Buffy Summers fought her worst villain, 4chan. Because who the hell would want to watch a show about a super powered young woman fighting against vampires, demons, and the forces of darkness. That's fucking lame.
Abomination should really have gotten out by now, but the government couldn’t have that dirty little secret getting out. Imagine that story line… but in an actually good show!
Weird how that one guy talks about how he would literally die/kill to stop her from talking to Kevin, but then just sits there n let's get gontalknto Kevin... So that was immediately proven to be a pile of shit, but the writers are so clueless, they didn't even write it to be seen that way. It was just supposed to be a throwaway gag line without any meaning
Remember when Tony Stark being selfish and promiscuous were considered a really bad thing and he had to find true meaning in his life by saving people?
Good old days.
Yeah, well, but he’s a man, so…
Yeah, because who wants to see a character learn stuff and change from things they've learned? That kind of character writing is racist or something.
Don't forget alcoholism. Back in the comics he was just awful with it. Lost his company, walked into a snowstorm, saw a woman die, had to take care of a baby in said snowstorm. Kinda crazy how bad that was.
@@biecie Speaking of alcoholism, you know whose alcoholism was muuuch worse (disastrous, even)? Carol Danvers's. She used to get so drunk, she couldn't even safely fly (and I mean safe for everyone else). She became extremely promiscuous too, and even almost instigated a fight between Wolverine and Tony back when he was hyped up on extremis.
This was a real quote from Twitter. "Honestly love how She-Hulk absolutely refuses to be the show those geeks want it to be"
This is a show written by the bullies who picked on the nerds and geeks in school. The fans of the She-Hulk show don't really like it. They _love_ dunking on 'incels.' That is their only source of joy for this awful show. Making other people sad who just wanted to see a character they like get a nice show. How horrible of those misogynistic men to want writers to put in effort. 😑 I can't stand those bigots on twitter. They are all selfish jerks.
I just wanted it to be like the comics and it fails even that. I was fine with a female-focused lawyer sitcom show. I didn’t need her to be Action Girl all the time, but I at least expected it to be actually funny. Like if the show is refusing to operate under its own basic premise as a “legal comedy/drama” then what am I watching?
@@Kaweebo A show made by narcissists for people who think everyone who criticizes the show is a "white, misogynistic incel." Even the women, people of color, and married fans who don't like it somehow fit that category. 🤨
It's not even a source of joy. More like a drug because they're so damn unhappy.
@@Kaweebo The writers delivered on nothing they promised.
But it fails even to be the show "the geek didn't want". Like, why nowadays can't we just say a show is bad or a writer is incompetent without some weird psychological or social justification? Like sometimes you do a bad job, get over it, Misogyny has nothing to do with it.
*Skaar's intro in the comics:* (crash lands on Earth with a big-ass sword, looking like Conan the Barbarian) _Where's my dad? I'm gonna kill him!_
*Skaar's intro in this:* (looking like a shy kid who just wants to play his Game Boy) _Daaaaad, this is embarrassing..._
honestly at this point I'm going back to comics. At least writers CARE on this media
@@shanouboubou sad to say it's even worse there
BY ODIN'S FADE 🤣🤣🤣
@@shanouboubou Read the comics pre 2007. I'm sorry, but the current comics are garbage.
@@DoctorInk20 In defence of post 2007 comics: Not all of them are garbage (though the majority are). For example, Batman: The Court of Owls and Batman: The City of Owls were both released post 2007, and they're damn great comics.
The logic behind the writing is so self-centered and purely ego driven.
"Of course Dennis hated me, he wanted to sleep me with and I didn't want to"
"Of course Todd hated me, he wanted to bang me AND be the Hulk"
They never stopped to consider that there was something wrong with the character saying those lines its actually amazing how blind they are to what is a fairly simple problem.
Oh my god it's internet celebrity weekend warrior
I love how she calls the writers creepy for saying they'll die for K.E.V.I.N., but she straight up said she'd kill for Megan Thee Stallion. Okay Jen, sure, whatever.
It’s actually pretty much in character. What they say strange to her because it implies self sacrifice, what she said is about what she will do to someone else.
Thank you! I pointed out the irony of that in someone else's review. But see, it's only creepy because a man said it.
So you love something you’ve made up. Because she never called the writers creepy at all.
@@RM-cn8pw Did you even watch the episode because yes she did lol
@@maryh7187 Unlike you, I did. And no. She doesn’t call the writers creepy. She says the way they’re talking about K.E.V.I.N.is creepy.
But even pushing that aside,
how is this SO hilarious after her saying she’d kill for Megan Thee Stallion, when even the show said she was going too far with that?
It’s crazy how this show isn’t even plot driven but instead comedy driven, and yet you dumbasses can’t even follow THAT much. You’re literally too dumb to grasp something a five-year-old could.
When female badfic writers get their own show. 😑 "Like, OMG, Daredevil's gonna date me and I take over Marvel, natch~"
All of the dumb bitches behind this show stopped growing intellectually at 14. Penning a dumb, cringy fanfic when you're in middle school is par for the course for most people, especially girls, when they enter fandom but we grow out of that shit. Or at least, we're supposed to.
Poor Matt. I watched the Daredevil series, so I remember how lonely he was and how much each relationship meant to him. Seeing how Jen drags him into all this just because "aww he is hot, and we're gonna smex" leaves a bad taste. I mean, we'd hate for a male self-insert to bend the script just so he could have sex with an established, complex, and beloved female protagonist just because "she is sexy and she WILL sleep with him", why should we feel any different for Jen?
Those Double standards!!!🌋
Are scratching my skull like claws of Wolverine!!!
She-Hulk: "I want him (Emil) to be held accountable."
Also She Hulk: *breaks the fourth wall to change the show to how she wants it so she's not held accountable for any of her mistakes*
Imagine being one of the CGI guys that work for Marvel. You're over worked, under paid, and threatened with being replaced. That's just the baseline of your job.
Now imagine being mocked by the WRITERS of the show you're working for. You bust your but trying to cover up their garbage writing with pretty visuals, and you're rewarded by saying you're not cheap enough. Holy hell.
When one of Todd's arms grows large and drags on the floor reminded me of the live action scooby doo movie when scrappy doo turned into a super scrappy doo because of the demon raytus!
We do not talk about him. EVER.
She-Hulk really did follow the Chip n Dale method of "You can't hurt my feelings if I'm in on the joke" meta humor.
I remember a Boondocks episode, the one where grandpa was dating a crazy bitch. Later we find out she's got a terrible friend who gives just the worst advice. That's She Hulk's female friend.
@@kingagrabowska9366 No, she hulk IS the bad friend, since she's a narcissist and all
@@silverprimus321boi9 Why not both? She Hulk being a terrible friend and her friend being less but still bad doesn't cancel each other out.
Isn't it depressing that the kids' cartoons of old portrayed Jennifer Walters way better than the clown people that Marvel has for writers nowadays?
And these people said word for word, that they have no. fucking. clue. on how to write for this show. They can't do law or superhero scenarios.
You have writers working on a show that can't write for the show. This should tell you everything you need to know about what Marvel thinks of their audience. They think you're braindead boot-lickers that'll eat up anything they put out.
@@frug5629 Thank you for saying that. It needed to be said. 🙏
@@frug5629 you sir, I l like you a lot
This. Because if a character was stupid or boring, they got rid of it after a few issues. But She-Hulk perdured because the stories were interesting and the fact she is a woman made you look at the other supers from a different perspective. It wasn't high literature, but interesting and fun. This show is a bad, boring sitcom.
Have you ever seen a show where a protagonist doesn't want to be held accountable for her actions, so she literally stops the show and forces the writers to rewrite the show so she gets all the cookies and also letcures the audience what they should and shouldn't like? No? Lucky you...
It's funny how earlier on in the show, Jen made fun of the Avengers, but they have more interesting character growth than she ever did.
@@michaelstrong5383
"No no no, you don't get it.
We had good and likeable characters in the MCU before, now we get obnoxious narcissists that spit on their graves.
It's super smart subversion of expectations!
Who would buy a subscription or ticket to watch that, you ask?
Uh... You're a bigot."
-Average Shulk Stan
@@Mat-zf9bf Shulk? That's an awesome character from Xenoblade Chronicles 😢 c
It is even so much worse considering that Jen has them lock up Blonsky for breaking his parole
After she broke hers too but they let her go
@Hatesh Warkio I literally just wrote about that. They have him do 10 years in jail, when Jen does the same thing, and is rewarded witn another job? These writers had to write the last scene of Abomination escaping because they are all hypocrites!
She-Hulk somehow manages to ruin the worldbuilding of the MCU even more by repealing the Sokovia Accords, which renders the Civil War film entirely meaningless now. You'd think that, after the events of Phase 4, the UN would want even more regulations and restrictions placed on superpowered individuals, because in the eyes of the average person, they clearly can't control themselves. And after what Wanda did in Westview - *_enslaving an entire town of over 3,000 people_* - and what Jennifer did in Episodes 6 and 8, which was start a fight at a *wedding reception hall* and *destroy the top level of a parking garage and multiple cars,* public opinion of superpowered individuals would be *down.*
And now this finale has made the entirety of She-Hulk season 1 pointless.
Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories and Kingdom Hearts 2 somehow take the idea of fucking with people's memories more seriously than the MCU, now.
The issue they would run into that could have been interesting is how incredibly impractical the accords may be. Sure, Wanda doing what she did is definitely something you would think the accords were written for, to prevent something like that. However, just because the document says "don't do that", how is the government going to stop her realistically with the level of power you're dealing with? Unless you get the cooperation of someone like Strange, who would most likely disregard the accords due to dealing with threats from other dimensions that the government isn't even considering. Otherwise, what, are they gonna get a Black Widow or Sam Wilson to try and stop her? Not likely. It would be interesting to see that play out and what lengths the government would go to in order to try and enforce these things. Instead, we got...nothing.
This was 100% the worst Marvel property. The way they disrespected everything the universe had accomplished was straight up disgusting.
Bro. How did we go from Logan 2017 masterclass to this. And people actually shit on Logan in places. The fact people have to act like She-Hulk is a masterclass is insulting to those marvel properties
@@fatherdoug6644 id argue logan shit on his universe but in a more respectful and well written way
They didn’t do anything resembling that though. SOMETHING YOU HAVE MADE UP CANNOT BE DISGUSTING.
@ R M Thats just may be the dumbest argument I have ever heard.
If I make up a show about a character constantly raping people and getting away with it, you don't think people would have a problem with it? They would literally say the writer of this show is warped and disgusting!
@@davantebarbain3216 Neither disrespected either of their universes, dumbass. Please learn what words mean.
We should always be allowed to criticize things, especially if we love it. We just want it to be better. Unfortunately for Disney and Marvel, myself and many others don't even care anymore.
One of the things Henry Cavill knows and has said on TV, which is why he's one of the only actors I give a shit about the opinion of.
>injects himself with Hulk blood
>Still a manlet
Clownshoes for Todd
I still can’t believe She-Hulk went full on Karen in the finale, she shows up at Marvel and instantly demands to speak to the man in charge
I can’t believe you believe that either. Because that isn’t what happened.
Thanks for admitting you’ve never read a She-Hulk comic though.
@@RM-cn8pw umm I’m talking about the show, not the comics…and I never said I read the comics, because I haven’t, at least not yet. I am totally aware she does this kind of thing, especially with the Jon Byrne run, but the show makes her look like a Karen! Because she’s acting like a Karen!
@@somerandomsmarta556 You’re actually talking about neither, since it’s clear you haven’t watched the show. Evidenced by you making up a scene that never happened where Jen “goes full Karen.”
If you were aware that she does this kind of thing, then your comment wouldn’t exist. So cut the shit.
And no. The show doesn’t make her look like a Karen, because again no. Nowhere does she ever once act like a Karen.
t’s concerning that you’re clearly terminally online yet don’t know what a Karen is.
@@RM-cn8pw Dude (at least I’m assuming you are)…it’s a fucking joke, for a show that is not worth either of our time.
If you wanna defend a really bad show that is supposed to be a legal comedy yet has zero understanding of the law, has one of the most selfish protagonist in all of the MCU, and tries to act all progressive yet uses so many bad stereotypes, by all means. I for one want better content from people who are capable of doing so. if you wanna defend a show that is actually progressive, funny, and well written, go watch Agent Carter; because this show was garbage
@@somerandomsmarta556 Jokes typically have to be based in some form of reality to work, genius.
Also, not sure where, other than your ass, you got that I want to defend a really bad show, since none is being discussed.
As for this show though, you’re further admitting you haven’t watched it with your lie that it has zero understanding of the law. And how exactly does Jen not wanting her life fucked up make her “the most selfish protagonist in all of the MCU”? Holy shit, are you brain-dead. That’s like calling someone selfish for not wanting to get raped.
You’re literally the exact type of misogynist this show calls out.
“and tries to act all progressive yet uses so many bad stereotypes”
Admission number one million that you haven’t watched the show, since no stereotypes, bad or otherwise, are used in it. And given the fact that you’ve not only shown you’re bigoted but are literally following a racist UA-cam channel kinda makes you complaining about made up stereotypes a bit hypocritical.
So they moved the "Batwoman" staff to work on "She-Hulk"?
Actually one of the writers is the writer for the current Spider-Man run so you tell me.
I hate that Daredevil suit. I get that they wanted to pay tribute to the older comic books where he wore the yellow costume, but it looks hideous in live action.
"hideous" is what they go for. Disney is engaged in an agenda that wants to destroy the ideas of aesthetics and beauty.
I agree
They probably made the suit yellow due to licensing issues rather than any "tribute".
@@Mister-Six Licensing issues? Disney bought Marvel a decade and 3 years ago. What license issues could they face?
@@Thomasmemoryscentral probably the thing about him going from Netflix to disney plus. Either way, it's so unnecessary.
Let's just take a second to highlight the fact that Jen went out of her way to look at the camera to brag about banging Matt Murdock; if the genders were reversed, people would be outraged calling this sexist
I wish more writers would follow this simple test. If it would look/sound racist or sexist if the race or gender was reversed THEN DON'T DO IT!
Wonder Woman raping a guy vibe
@@muigokublack6487 or just do it to everyone, like South Park. Everyone gets their licks in that show, or at least they used to. I haven't seen it in quite some time, so I don't know how it has changed or not.
@@muigokublack6487 exactly 💯
I don’t have a problem with her sexualizing Matt like that, BUT she would have a problem if it was the other way around. If the show established that she was fine being ogled at then there would be no problem. Let everyone have their sexy time!
"I can control my anger INFINITELY more than you"....🤦🏾♂️🤣. There could've been a REAL SHOW HERE. So unfortunate the writers couldn't Walk and Chew Gum at the same time.
“How does it feel to live long enough to see all your favorite franchises go down in flames?”
“Feels great :’-)”
🎶It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine🎶 😆
Mike Stoklasa has somehow not drank his liver into mush but he's sure trying.
And I'm trying too.
Hulk's son, his hair when I saw first him, got the biggest laugh I've gotten out of this entire crapshoot of a show I've never watched. Hulk Fans And She Hulk fans have been kicked in the reproductive organs enough to be rendered sterile.
my ovaries!!!!!! 😭😭😭
O_o they can have babies?!?!?
The inhibitor is a plot hole. Hulk specifically said that he calibrated his inhibitor specifically for him and that's why he can't make one for Jen. But somehow Damage Control has several of those? They weren't working with Bruce, he was in space.
these are facts, and doesn’t work in either version of the show
They broke their own lore several times at this point
Well so is "king incel" becoming Hulk which according to this series itself required a genetic mutation specific to Bruce Banner/Jennifer Walters family not held by the general populace to even be able to absorb.
Then again considering she 4th walls breaks out of that fight who even knows if this is considered "canon" to what actually happened at that point. Or maybe the fact he turned into Quasi-Hulk is because he wasn't compatible though I got the feeling that failing to synthesise the gamma radiation would end up more like exploding/death/much worse mutations.
@@InDeathWeLove it reminds me of Flux from the Hulk comics, but like you said a gamma radiation event would be needed to be able to handle Hulk-based genetics/serums.
The wine-aunts who wrote this couldn't even remember plots from within the same episode, let alone previous ones.
She-Hulk: "I'm great at controlling my anger because I do it infinitely more than you"
Same She-Hulk that destroys gala night after someone leaks her sex tapes.
Same She-Hulk that brags about banging Daredevil.
By the way, that Asian dude Jen was thinking about? He just disappears from the show. Like a CTRL+X command on a PC.
This show isn't just shit. It's a cinematic vomit. I thank God it's over!
Oh we are definitely getting a season 2, maybe even a season 3 judging batwoman
@@TheeOK1 Hopefully we will get better shows from other platforms aside from MCU/Disney+
Oh yeah, remember when she outright tried to murder Daredevil by throwing cars at him and destroying a parking lot (which could’ve gotten others killed)? Yup, the epitome of mental control.
It’s funny because in this commentary, they basically say that if a woman had a man’s strength, that’s what would happen. Men are prone to violence and we have to keep everything in check, even if something really bad is happening to us, or else someone gets severely hurt or dies. That’s why weak men snap and kill their girlfriends when they’ve been slighted.
It’s hilarious how they don’t even notice what they’re saying.
Damn.... This sound like a sh1tpost...
But it's official apparently...................damn...... those writes are on drugs!
Im just sad Black Widow isn’t around anymore… but well she saved the world sacrificing herself while she-hulk is crying over not getting a man
The stuff she was doing is for narcissists and orphans.
The worst part about the season finale of She-Hulk is that Jen has the audacity to talk about accountability but when it came to her taking accountability for nearly killing her coworkers and family in a fit of rage she tried to justify it as "I was angry". This character is written like she has borderline personality disorder. Nothing is ever Jen's fault and when push comes to shove, Jen, despite her toxicity, makes herself out to be the victim in order to justify her poor decisions and everyone has to accept her version of reality.
It's no wonder the only people who like this show are just like Jen. They bully people who criticize the show and when they get push back for their behavior, they hide and claim "sexism and mean trolls are being mean to me".
These new Marvel fans are all the people who peaked in high school.
so much for controlling her anger INFINITELY better than bruce 🙄
Flips out when confronted with the _truth_ of her own actions. It wasn't even faked or gaslighting. Accountability is anathema to the wine-aunts who wrote this.
"[She hulk] doesn't do women any favors"
Its a good thing no one is really watching it then lol
I thought most people who tried the Hulk's blood died... And only a few can synthesize it enough to not die. Wouldn't it make more sense that Todd would die from injecting himself with radiation rather than turn into a hulk?
You say that like these writers payed any attention to the MCU
See, your mistake was thinking the writers would care about what makes sense.
Yeah either that or have him be a grotesque mutation. That's what I thought they were gonna do when I saw only his arm growing at first.
Like Stan Lee dying in Incredible Hulk, because there was a tiny bit of blood in his juice
Ah, but this isn't toxic male Hulk blood, this is superior, healing She/Her-Hulk blood.
Season 2: Matt Murdock, after having been married to Jen for a while, finds out that she is pregnant, with Abomination's love child.
And they name him the Abominable Hulk.
@@LassyV Nah, She-Hulk takes the baby outside and chucks him into a dumpster without bothering to name him because "gIrLbOsS"
It is crazy how many people on Reddit defend the show and go all "LOL, the show predicted the incels and trolls the show would attract. Baited! Exposed! Genius! Everything people were criticizing was a calculated move by the writers to lure the incels into whining. LOLOLOLOLOL" And it just absolutely baffles me. It was like reading a forum full of loony conspiracy theorists.
The other thing is like...okay, yeah, they knew the "trolls" would complain about trash writing and trash characters...so they wrote a trash show with trash characters?
@@WuTheBat But they don't think it's a trash show with trash characters.
Guys..... I think it's a twilight zone! 🌀🌀🌀 🎶Twilight zone intro playing... 🎶
Reddit: "See they made the show terrible as a dunk on you!"
It's like the 'I was only pretending to be a retard.' meme
I was hoping that the final villain would be someone like General Ross, The Leader, or literally any actual Hulk connected villain that would make the ending somewhat enjoyable; it's my own fault for clinging on to hope
General Ross being an antagonist of sorts would have been interesting. The big conflict could have been about Ross attempting to enforce the accords and Jen dealing with the legal fallout of his decisions and whether he's doing the right thing or if his attempt to do right is doing more harm than good, or whether his methods of enforcement are even legal. What rights do these people who choose to break the law to do good have? Those following the accords could also run into issues of feeling their hands are tied and maybe someone is hurt because of their inability to act in time and they go to Jen for help. All sorts of things they could have done just with Ross and Jen never having to throw a punch at each other directly.
The final villain was the audience.
I remember a Boondocks episode, the one where grandpa was dating a crazy bitch. Later we find out she's got a terrible friend who gives just the worst advice. That's She Hulk's female friend.
"why would I actually spend significant money on anything?" ~Disney/Marvel
>Looks at Hulk's son
Tfw people on Middle Earth have better fades than you.
She-hulk really proved that people will eat up any slop if it has a marvel logo/disney logo slapped on it
what are you talking about it’s getting universally panned by almost everyone. twitter bots aren’t real people, in the real world either nobody watched this garbage or they thought it was bad to meh
And those bots are making more mess of discussions!
They working like a Trolls!
Motives obviously a ATTENTION!
We need spread more honest opinions and trying do not feed those bots!
Not even joking, made a post on tumblr calling out how Jen sexualising Captain America to the point she was obsessed if he died a virgin or not (and said it would be bad if he did basically cause...he's hot), how Jen basically cat-fished a guy when making an account for She Hulk cause she failed to get dates as Jen and how she basically drags Matt back into the show cause she has needs/basically only wanted him back so she could have sex with him, was bad and if the genders were swapped, people wouldn't be okay with it- and what did I get? A She Hulk stan on my post defending Jen and such and accusing me of making everything about Jen's gender and putting words in my mouth basically and I gave up responding to them after one response cause their response to that response was just...you'd have a better conversation with a wall then she hulk stans is all I'm saying.
Yeah at least wall can have some cool graffiti !
@@heropath34.vaselisc.35 as long as it's not the fourth...
@@MistyLunaLotus 🤝
"I need to have a little rant"
Proceeds to make a 2 hour video.
Hey, I won't complain, though.
They might as well have Jen end the show with "I must leave now my planet needs me.."
Is that a Simpsons reference? Lol 😆
I legit was constantly thinking about Poochie when they pulled the 4th wall breaking out of their ass
That's the thing about the complete 4th-wall break at the end of the episode. They've completely obliterated any and all tension for all possible future seasons, because when the shit hits the fan, the audience will be wondering: "Well, why doesn't she just break the 4th wall again and bitch out the writing team?"
Disney should cut their loses and cancel the show, because they can't use that plot contrivance again.
1:22:25 "The powers aren't the villian, he is." and yet I'd bet all of the people who worked on She-hulk would be 100% on board with the thought process that 'people don't kill people, guns kill people'.
Hey J, couple things. You know how Jen has that "Erin Brockovitch" poster in her childhood bedroom in order to signify how she's idolized strong female lawyers from an early age? Well, my family is from Hinkley, the town that movie's about, and I can tell you beyond a shadow of a doubt that we all have huge problems with that film and Erin Brockovitch herself. That case didn't really fix anything for anyone, and the town is still dying. If Jen were a good lawyer, or the show's creators cared about making her look like one, Jen would never have that poster in her bedroom. Just a fun detail for you.
Also, friendly suggestion, it might be a good idea to maybe have at least a couple notes, or to review what you're going to be reading before hitting record, just so you don't get tripped up as much as you did reading those leaks. At the very least it might help for these longform unedited rants, though I personally think it's fine for the live reaction stuff during NOCs.
Or, if the show's writing were better, Jen would have a character building moment with someone mocking her for having that poster where she tells them she hopes to not be like that woman. Idk.
@@TheeOK1 Also a good idea. I think the worst parts of Phase 4 are all the potential opportunities for interesting moments that are squandered. Jen being someone with negative role models and therefore having a negative outlook on people telling her what to do, and then meeting Matt who teaches her about something in a positive way and serves as a positive role model, could've been a really cool character interaction. But no, we got what we got.
You know - you'd think if they're trying to figure out who's behind Intelligencia/who Hulk king is, the first person they'd investigate/track down would be Josh (the guy who was clearly behind the leaked sex tape, as he's literally shown setting up the camera phone to record his nookie with Jen). They only find out later when Hulk King himself admits to having hired Josh to steal Jen's blood/make the sex tape. (the writers really did make Jen and her associates grade A morons for never once even considering that was a possibility and tracking Josh down through Lulu - as he was part of her wedding party; instead of the convoluted idea of Nikki leaking more embarrassing content about Jen to the folks who tried to ruin her bestie's life and having Pug pose as the leaker to get inside the group).
If they do get a season 2; they should stick to that 'it was all a dream' idea - however, make season 1 that dream sequence and make season 2 Jen's real life; it's a great way to fire this abysmal season 1 writing team and hire a new writing team that will show SheHulk and the cast of characters some respect.
As much happiness as that would fill me, you and I both know that they think this show is a massive success and are going to release another 2 seasons until someone does something stupid.
offtopic but J, I really like listening to you, even without edits. If you ever feel like doing an unedited rant again (on literally anything) again, you have my full and unadulterated support.
"The biggest gaggle of fucking losers" lmfao 🤣 pretty much describes all of Hollywood
1:10:40 ish. It's ironic. She spends way more time fighting innocent people than she does fighting actual baddies in this episode.
but she won't hesitate to destroy a parking lot for no reason
Look at what they did to Skaar! He’s just another random Hulk rather than his comic counterpart who’s basically Conan the Barbarian given the Hulk’s powers
Watching Jen Fuck up the Security protecting Kevin made, me laugh Harder. She hulk isn't a fighter or "Saviour" in show, she only ever gets Physical for her Client (as a Lawyer.) Any other time SHE-Hulk ruins the Flying Fisted Fun or she's Fallen victim to Titania's "Bullying."
So it Warps the scenario and context into She-Hulk is OP enough to alter the Fates. Also a lawyer resorts to abuse/Violence in order to Secure Her Own Objectives with Motives!
You’re probably unaware you made a great pun; “Jen goes to the kitchen looking for Emil”
Why does Hulk’s son look older than his father does?
My money is on they intended to play on the Marvel TV show trope where "The show was good but they fucked up the ending." which is what people say about shit like WandaVision or Moon Knight, etc. How Marvel just doesn't know how to make a proper ending that they just forgo all the show's build up or character arcs, for a big slap fest.
The problem here is SHE-HULK was never anything better than a mess of a comedy with no meat to chew on. So ending on such a nonsense note, isn't out of the norm for the quality the show has presented.
A bad show getting a bad ending is expected. A good show betting a bad ending is a let down.
'None of these storylines make any sense!'
NOOOO
Trust me, I suffered enough for one day. Thank you, J, for another one your TEDTalks. You have a great night.
M'girl...your channel deserves to be up amongst the top reviewers on UA-cam as you are knowledgeable and hilarious....more power to you!
Jsyk, the cancer thing with Jane Thor is actually canon in the comics. Though its written a little bit better, only a little, in that she's already at stage 4/dying and mjonir can't fix that. Only abate it.
Shit still sucks tho
At 1:59:41 that was perfect summary . Also I saving that to quote “ they love diversity, but not diversity of thought.” Exactly! That was on point
About an hour in, the second half of the finale sounds like Doug Walker took over as writer
Deadpool: I was gonna do that in the third act of my movie, Hugh Jackman was gonna be there and everything
I have a theory about why writing in these circles has devolved to this level of parody. These people do not read anything worth reading. They don't read good short fiction, good literature, good pulp, good genre fiction, good scripts, or good comics. I am pretty sure these hacks only read twitter, gossip columns, teenage fan fiction, and ghost written books by feminist pseudointellectuals.
Jen in episode 1 "I control my anger infinitely more than you wahhhh" doesn't listen to Bruce.
Jen now in prison for not controlling her anger..wait will the writers admit she should have listened to Bruce?! That Jen was wrong?
Of...fking..Course.. not..
Just feel bad for poor poor Jen
God damn it.
I love that they basically forced Daredevil to come back cause Jen liked him as arm candy.... I guess consent doesn't matter when it comes to men...
All that just to murder the mystique of Daredevil. He's supposed to be something of an urban legend, only spotted at night, and here he is waving to some bitch on Twitter like he's the Toronto Batman.
Never does
Eeewwww 🤢
Yep and now it is finally over and now JLongbone can continue doing her co-op with Carl on the assassination of Interview With a Vampire.
Even if the first episode was setting up her outburst (her turning green after her rant in episode one), it makes zero sense. After everything that Bruce went through as a hulk, he would NOT have left her on her own so quickly.
Bets on him being blamed for "not warning her enough" if he comes back to the show?
On a slightly unrelated note, J’s hair is on point today!
1:10 yeah that was one of the worst part since it´s supossed to take place in the "real world" so She-hulk just flat out killed those poor people who were just doing their job for...what? cause it wasn´t even a joke, it comes more like she´s too coward to fight the abomination and the Incel Hulk villain and instead assualts people waaaay weaker than her...our hero, everyone! SIGH
Imagine messing up so badly in life that you have to go full Karen on essentially the God of your universe, you get Jen Walters: A person immune to the consequences of accountability.
The actual She-Hulk IP consists of laughs, fourth wall breaks, actual court trials, etc. I don't know why they didn't fully capitalize on this, it could've blended so well with the rest of the MCU and the events it sets up. Genuinely upset that they ruined yet another potentially profitable series due to hiring showrunners that only care about some MeSsAgE
Big question,
They have a sex tape of she hulk but doesn't set up an only fans? Idk I'd make a lot of money off irl superhero. It's scummy sure but if they're villains I mean atleast be completely evil. This is softcore evil like a highschool bully not a pure evil group.
I mean, that in itself is completely silly and petty at worse. On brand for someone like Reverse flash in a parody. Or venture bros but that's about it.
@@TheeOK1 I mena you call it silly and petty I call it pure evil to violate a person's personal moment of vulnerability and sell it for profit while making her naked body a show for anyone with a few spare coins. Then to have that also revealed with the fact you're a lawyer and your professional carrier is unconseually sullied by the fact you are Boe eternally sexualized. Like imagine you become mia khalifia but you never consented to making the tape. That's pretty bad.
That's because the people behind the show are writing what they know, which is petty high school drama bullshit. None of them have the imagination to write an actually evil villain.
@@TheeOK1 "On brand for someone like Reverse Flash in a parody."
Bro Reverse Flash never takes proper advantage of his powers in any of the official stuff.
It's a train wreck christ lord!, they literally destroyed their entire well built universe in one show. It is so ridiculous that it deserves a round of applause 👏 for the dumpster fire it turned out to be. 😂
I'm not sure the MCU could be called well built, but this makes all the things that don't work & don't make sense unavoidable even to the most casual of viewers.
This show gold mine of the MEMES!
And YTPs
And Sh1tpost!
It like a "the SHEHULKING TIME!" And she just breaks a 4th wall! 🌚
Wonder why they gave her a Midsummer Night's Dream poster instead of a poster for the Shakespearean comedy where the female lead saves the male leads through her genius lawyering and then outsmarts them all 🤔 maybe they know as much about Shakespeare as they do the law, or maybe there was something else in that play that they didn't particularly like.
In a world where Jeff (I swear it’s not Lex Luthor) Bezos has a sex tape and no one really cares does having a superhero sex tape really matter? Yeah it’s a legal issue but it would barely register in the public consciousness especially when she was in human form.
Never even heard about that, but who would want to watch that? 🤷♂️
@@Zero_2500 it’s not public but it was used as evidence in his divorce settlement I believe. I’m not saying you want to watch it but in the post Kardashian landscape it doesn’t hold the same social stigma that it once did.
She Hulk probably caused more damage than the Abomanation in the entire show.
Luke Cage has incapacitated people by just swatting them on the forehead. That scene where she is beating the hell out of them was unnecessary.
From 1:09:22
“Rich Waahman shut the F*ck up!” 🎶🎶
- Jlong Bilbonius
Why did they have to do Hulk like this. His entire IP has been ruined for generations.
One cool experiment is watching the daredevil's scenes in She-Hulk, and then go back to Daredevil season 2 and watch any scene with Daredevil arguing against the Punisher (in particular the one where he is mourning in tears his daughter) and experience the tonal whiplash.
That or the rooftop scene where he and the Punisher are arguing over what's right or wrong. I know it's an overdone meme at this point, but this show really *"massacred my boy".*
Oo Daredevil and Punisher arguing each other? Wow that's I am calling the KINO!
All those Disnoids creaming themselves over the supposed setup for Planet Hulk, I'm sure they'll be real happy to know they dumpstered that entire plotline.
I'm starting to question what the biggest franchise is becoming, I really do feel like there choosing quantity over quality, I can't see She-Hulk having a plot of the story.
They are probably treating the MCU as they treated star Wars, thinking is a fail-proof goldmine. So instead of improving or creating new stories, they just make products based on the IP. Basically harmless, gray, movies or series created to be sold but not to tell a story or entertain. That's why they are so full of cameos to old franchises and generally go nowhere story-wise.
@@MitridatedCarbon I'm sick of seeing cameos at this point, not every mcu project has to be BIG thing.
@@Femmeaesthetic Seriously, not every damn story needs to be tied into each other. It's okay for stories to just be their own thing. Self contained and with a classic three act structure.
Imagine other franchises trying this mass MCU tie-in garbage. The stories would be a train wreck.
She-Hulk writers be like: Lmao! We abuse our VFX team! Aren't we quirky!?
Bet they are going to try bullying her into self deletion and they'll compare that with how many times Bruce tried while saying she hulk experience was worst and making straw man arguments from people reviewing the show
1:03:00 A romantic comedy where the lead sleeps with a different dude every other episode.
1:08:00 She calls it creepy that the writers would die for Kevin, but she herself literally said she would kill for Megan the Stallion.
The second bit is in character. What they said is about self sacrifice, she can’t wrap her mind around that. What she said is about harming someone else, which she’s showcased she’s fine with.
I hate she can rewrite the whole ending, dictate how it all goes and she erases everything but Abomination braking his parole.. no, she can't undo his mistake, he has to stand responsible for his choices and go back to jail.
Luckily, the quality of J's dissection of the "show" outweighs the pain of the "show".
I quite enjoyed this whole show review. She is someone competent and capable of sh*tting on it with facts, while making sense.
How are the bracelets mass produced? I would say Stark Industries but they seem keen not to bring up Tony again.
the entire show comes off as insecure. They constantly include internet discourse in their episodes, and considering VFX that HAS to take months to be done, they preemtively had to "strike back" by making up criticism inside their heads.
10:55 I feel like it was even worse than that. She wasn't just being told not to freak out, she was offered a simple guide on HOW to not freak out, by someone who had been there before, but kept saying she didn't need help.
I wish they hadn't edited out Hulk's return, so we could of seen his reaction to seeing her reaction just like "😑🤦🏻 god freaking damnit Jen......fucking
..FINE! TURN THE SHIP AROUND!MY DUMBASS COUSIN FUCKED UP!"
(though to be slightly fair, I feel like Bruce would of freaked out over a leaked sex tape too. Maybe if Mr Tall, Dark, and Handsome Tinder date had his sex tape leaked he wouldn't care, but Bruce the softie would freak out.
The amount of people ive seen praise the finale makes me sick lol
The amount of people I’ve seen hating on the finale makes me sick lmao
@@MarioSonicBee good.
@@MarioSonicBee good😈
Just saw the last episode and honestly I'm not mad or even shocked because the whole show has been objectively bad. But after seeing that ending I'm just genuinely embarrassed for everyone involved. Apart from Charlie Cox hands down best thing in the show.
I haven't watched a single episode of this show but hearing it on paper just makes me want to do die of cringe
Even the shill reaction channels didn't like this episode. That's how ya know its really bad.
He-Hulk is the fan name for the She-Hulk when she looked like a guy in the comics...yuuuup, writers clearly didn't know this |D
I’m glad someone I like is talking about this show, I suffered through disparu’s video just to know what happened in the finale
You suffered through disparu's video? I thought it was pretty through and entertaining. He says everything people think, but don't want to say.
@@blakseed nah his whiny second voice is annoying and he nitpicks at random things unnecessarily too.
@@blakseed I find him entertaining as well. His Rings of Power reviews were so funny to me! But to each their own I suppose.
His voice is SOOOOO annoying
The silver lining is that with the 4th wall real world BS in the last episode, you can consider the whole show non-canon
Yes, I remember the season where Buffy Summers fought her worst villain, 4chan. Because who the hell would want to watch a show about a super powered young woman fighting against vampires, demons, and the forces of darkness. That's fucking lame.
What kind of bath salts were these writers on lmao
Abomination should really have gotten out by now, but the government couldn’t have that dirty little secret getting out. Imagine that story line… but in an actually good show!
Weird how that one guy talks about how he would literally die/kill to stop her from talking to Kevin, but then just sits there n let's get gontalknto Kevin...
So that was immediately proven to be a pile of shit, but the writers are so clueless, they didn't even write it to be seen that way. It was just supposed to be a throwaway gag line without any meaning