@@billybobbob3003 According to Tesla's Model Y collision repair procedures manual the cast aluminum can be repaired or entirely replaced and they provide full documentation on all options. See Tesla's "Cast Rear Underbody (1-Piece) Repair Guidelines"
@@billybobbob3003 Munro was cutting out parts fast and they did it well before the manual was out on service dot Tesla. They literally have a step by step now.
@ScottyKilmer is actually in the community for views and comments for monetization. Please don't take it so serious. The more discussion and controversy he rises in the comments "suction" the more money he gets.
When I was a kid in the 60’s I knew a mechanic like Scotty and he was like a mentor and I admired him and thought he knew everything. Then I went to college and got an engineering degree and after working about 10 years in the field ran into my old “mentor” again in his new shop. I helped him with a couple issues he was working with, and was astonished by all that he didn’t know. There’s a big, big difference between diagnosing a broken part and swapping it out efficiently and designing or developing something new. It’s a whole different thing. Scotty’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. As a retired engineer who’s designed for legacy manufacturers as well as having a lifetime hobby restoring vintage cars, I will have to say that I rarely agree with Scotty, and most certainly his comments on EV’s are utter nonsense. I should add I’ve been driving a Tesla Model 3 LR for 5 years and it’s by far the finest car I’ve ever owned.
@@johncahill3644 I leased my first EV, and I love it. It's not a Tesla but a Kona SEL. Smooth quiet exceleration. I also own a Mazda 6 turbo but I don't use it as much and it's also fun to drive. I don't visit the gas stations too frequently and I charge my EV at home. Charging at home is sweet.
Did you get a custom interior at a 3rd party auto upholstery shop? I hear that Tesla have horrible interiors. With the fuel savings you can spend $5k and have an amazing inside to match the tech!
You would if you had to do the drive I just did, emergency interstate travel bc relative had a bad fall. Had to drop everything to get there, 300km with the tank half full, for the Isuzu D-Max is no issue, more driving at the destination to get hospital bits and pieces, no time to stop. No chargers at the motel, nearest charger is 160km away. An EV wouldnt have made it. back home the next morning, 50L of fuel in about 4 minutes. Time is money
@@MrkBO8 "Had to drop everything to get there, 300km" WTF 300 Kilometers, that is way too easy. I thought you were going to say something unreasonable like 800km. You are a scammer propagandist if you do not realize 300km in a modern 450km range BEV is VERY EASY! (Note the photo on my UA-cam page is Mt Buller I shot my self)
@@MrkBO8 "An EV wouldn't have made it, nearest charger is 160km away" LIES! That is not even plausible in Australia where OUR EV infrastructure is soo much worse. Hello from Newcastle. You are spamming wacko nonsense.
I am riding the EV wave by holding Copper metal and Copper miners. Copper is expected to be $100,000 /ton around 2033 because of the need to build motors and transformers. Think cable theft is bad now? Just wait. Copper has already doubled in price since 2015. I have been doing solar since 2011 and our industry just laughs at this, no one will be able to afford electrical cable let alone the electrons. What makes it even more profitable is that all Copper mines are in decline, we have been mining it for 5,000 years and long story short, there is not enough left and the price is going to the moon!
@@timnevitt2993Yes, they're about the same weight and price (if you got the top-trim Lightning, which you need to do to have specs close to the CT). But for that weight, the CT has a bigger bed (though smaller trunk), more load capacity, higher towing capacity, faster 0-60, longer range, and faster charging (and a bunch of other things that are better but they're not related to weight).
@@rp9674 They are already. There are two shops in my city that now work on EV batteries and motors. It's not that big of a city either, I'm sure LA or NY have tons of shops already.
And consumer reports actually never takes ads and tries to be unbiased and credible (thus buying the products they test), despite the many whiny claims of the EV denial set. Re buying the products they test, this has been consistent with them for over 40 years I've been familiar with them.
Given that Scotty doesn't understand that accidental damage is not planned obsolescence, I'm not sure any of his opinions carry any value. I also find his voice and mannerisms irritating.
And to add to that, even ICE get totalled all the time, in fact even more then EVs (but that may have to do with age of ICE cars vs EVs). All in all, it's about the same.
I tried listening to him but he has an abrasive voice and the jumping around and waving his arms as if his pants were on fire distracted me. I think he would be Ok to listen to if he spoke calmly.
@@ziploc2000A hater's gotta hate! But if you think about it he's a life long mechanic, and if EVs need less maintenance then we need less mechanics; also, he's from an older generation and a lot of older folks don't like "new stuff" and would prefer things to stay the way they have been because it's more comfortable and what they already understand
so nobody has sent him a car to try so he hasnt actually driven one for any lenght on time but yet tells eveyone they are garbage. Me thinks he does protest to much
I believe that until we get rid of lithium batteries in the EV's they are not better for the environment if you count pollution from the drawing board to the dealer lot. The mining and making, repairing and retiring of the lithium batteries are the problem. I would buy a EV if or when they use something else to power it. I keep all my lithium tool batteries in a fire proof box that I bought just for that. I can't do that for a EV if I bought one.
@@a9ball1good job with the fear-mongering and disinformation. Keep up the good work and perhaps Scotty can give you a cut of his ill-gotten gain from similar promotion of disinformation and b*******.
@@a9ball1 55% of the world's lithium supply comes from mines in central Australia, where there is like, three fifths of bugger all environment to damage.
@@a9ball1 Then you should also put your smartphone, airpods, laptops and game console controllers if any, and the list goes on, Litium batteries are everywhere! yes, on mayor scale on an EV, but the principle remains the same, they go boom if not taken care properly, which EV manufacturers are EXTREMELY careful about that, you know people's life and brand reputation, basic stuff. No company in their right mind will let their batteries explode for no reason, take Samsung for example with the Note 7, now you're gonna tell me that you won't buy Samsung phones because of 1 incident that was taken care of almost immediately years ago. About environmental BS, ICE cars have been around longer, polluting in the course of DECADES, and you're going to tell me that some mines a couple years ago are more harmful to the whole environment than actual CO2 being expelled to the atmosphere daily by the MILLIONS of ICE cars, trucks, planes, etc..., if that's your only point against the EVs... then please reconsider every time you turn on the ignition of your car/truck, which is worse, you know, oils, battery fluid, CO2, I don't care about how EVs are green, mainly because we "save" on one end, but on the other we throw plastic everywhere and that's just being a hypocrite, but the savings are noticeable the instant you get an EV.
I always find it humorous when "ev haters" argue against EV subsidies. They always seem to forget that the fossil fuel industry gets over 500 billion dollars in subsidies each year (over 700 billion in 2023 in the US alone). That while the fossil fuel companies made over 4 trillion dollars in profits in 2023. But of course, that is to compensate them for the 7.5 billion EV subsidies and we have to nurture them because they are an industry that has only been around for more than 100 years. BTW, The IMF claims that worldwide, with direct and indirect subsidies, the fossil fuel industry received over 7 trillion dollars in subsidies. I am not an Elon fanboy, far from it, but that was one of the reasons that Elon wants all subsidies (including those for the fossil fuel industry) to stop. Fuel prices would rise, making EV's an even stronger competitor for ICE cars.
I'm technically an EV hater. But it's only the lithium batteries inside them that I disagree with. The idea of an electric powered vehicle is awesome. But with a firefighter in the family and hearing the reality of a battery fire I can't agree with it. But when we get to a better power source I'm pretty sure I'll jump on. Maybe solid state batteries?
That's also true for older cars. I had a 1974 Chevrolet Caprice Classic station wagon with all the options and it weighed 5800 pounds. 10 passenger tank.
Gonna use Metric units here because Australian, but my Tesla weighs the same as my old 2008 Holden Commodore SV6 Wagon, around 1900kg. Teslas are built around the battery pack as being a structural member of the chassis and therefore they factor the pack into the overall design package. That's how they can get them to be so light compared to the competition.
I used to follow Scotty, no more. We bought a Tesla, not to save the planet, but to use for short trips. Charge at home Level 2, and last year for 4K miles it cost us $120 and no issues with the car!
@@a9ball1 My father who's 73 and a big time Trump supporter, felt the same way. He's always driven big trucks recently RAM 3500's but I got him to test drive a model 3 performance and he bought one instantly. He hasn't driven the RAM since and I'm using it for work now. Win win.
@@Ryan-ff2db I always wanted a 1 ton dually, preferably diesel but my wife said very firmly that if I bought one she would wave to me when I drive by on the way to divorce court.
@@a9ball1 Yes, it's diesel and good for work but man modern diesels are a money sink. Unless you need towing, like I do for work, I recommend getting gas. I've been waiting on a recall part for 7 months and the state won't let me register it without fixing it, which I can't because Stallantis doesn't even have a workable fix yet. I've been paying $50 temp registration every 90 days, hoping they finally get a fix.
Oh no Ben! You've touched a nerve! I honestly doubt Scotty's going to call YOU out personally because of the simple fact you succinctly defeat all of the arguments he makes. It's simple, *other* than his opinion he has nothing to call you on, and won't name you.
Excellent point. If Scotty mentions Ben by name, people will check out Ben's videos and see him systematically and surgically dismantle all of Scotty's claims. This goes for other people dissecting Scotty's videos as well, if it was in fact someone else Scotty was referring to. If you have a strong case, you'll be able to show the specific video critiquing you and show exactly why they're wrong. All Scotty can do is be a shouting inflatable tube man.
There are already dozens of reputable organizations and individuals spending lots of time and money testing all brands of EVs. Why would a car manufacturer send a $50000 unit to him?
And the difference is that those organizations do logical comparisons of comparable vehicles. Showing differing viewpoints. Taking into account the various benefits and shortcomings of different models and features, but skipping Scotty's accusing titles, doom and gloom proclamations, and shouting fear tactics.
Also, Scotty could just, idk, Email Tesla's press department, and request a press car for a period of time? They do it all the damn time for other youtubers.
@@gregsparrow1499 This is why I think they are like this as well, even though ICE cars aren't going to just disappear one day. Decades after Scotty's retired, there will still ICE vehicles on the road.
I've never seen Scotty before, but with his Joe Pesci voice, his strange mini Elton sunglasses, and his mannerisms, he does appear to be "quite honest" and "reliable". Just like used car salesman. What a goofball!
Hi Ben. I have posted "reasoned" arguments in the comments section of Scotty's videos, and he has "Deleted" some of them . . . . I think that when people run a channel, in which they delete opposing viewpoints in the comments, the only way we can respond is by "making videos" to criticize their false information . . . Maybe Scotty and other "comment deleters" are banking on the fact that my channel isn't popular enough for my critiques to show up in the UA-cam algorithm, but in your case, your videos do show up. Thank You.
A lot of the deletions are the YT algorithm. I have had comments disappear immediately or just be hidden while still getting notifications from the thread.
I tried to resist the temptation to watch or comment his on his videos because it rewards him $. I think his son runs the channel Camila very good at clickbait, probably realizes pro/con EVs is a Hot Topic
Scotty reminds me of my old uncle who didn't believe in front wheel drive cars when they first came out. He said that FWD would never catch on or that they would kill the car market. Guess who was wrong?
Hopefully, I won't be mistaken for a twenty something with lots of cleavage, but I do appreciate the level of detail and the amount of research that you put into these debunking videos. Such a stark comparison between yours and his blustering nonsense.
He never feared calling out most car companies and has always leaned toward Toyota. He was helpful and when I was car shopping he was always trustworthy on Toyotas and Lexus but I slowly watched him go sharply off the rails with his take on Tesla. I watched him give increasingly inaccurate information tailored for the people that would be very ignorant of electric cars. The people that know almost nothing about EVs but act like engineering scholars about EVs. He is not making mistakes about EVs , he is outright lying about EVs with tricky misleading data cherry picking. He’s gone from a helpful reliable source of information to a walking talking propaganda machine. Scotty is not THAT DUMB. He’s on Toyota’s side and he’s going down with their ship. Good riddance 👍 Thanks for the great channel 🙏🏻
Hey Scotty, i bought and installed 12 EV chargers with little chance of ever getting them repaid, just because i believe our tenants should have the option.
7:00 Yes! Everytime someone tells me that EVs weigh too much and should be taxed more or treated differently, I point out that a model 3 weighs LESS than a Ford F150 so why aren't the trucks being taxed more or treated differently for their weights? *yes, I know the heaviest model 3 weighs more than the lightest F150 (by around 30lbs) but those are the extreme ends of each spectrum.
The 'extra tax' on EVs is a fraud to a] embezzle funds to some pencil pushers pockets & b] to scare off EV buyers. Note, for example, Texas, with its oil, HAS an EV penality. Calif. with no oil lobby, does not
We are making a switch to Solar and an EV in 2025. Even though it’s a cost up front, it’s going to help us save a lot in energy expenses on a monthly basis.
I made that move this year, by getting a used BEV, home solar and a battery. It is not the best choice for everyone. But for many of us it makes sense in the long run to get off the fossil fuel treadmill. 🐀
I think a lot of these anti-electric car folks are making assumptions that the electric car crowd is a bunch of man-bun, skinny jean hipsters that are just too stupid to know any better than to buy them. I've noticed they also are VERY anti full self driving. I see comments like, "I'll NEVER trust a dang computer to drive me and my family" or, "I love to drive and would never give that up". They also think Level 5 autonomy is only a fantasy and we'll NEVER figure it out. Future generations will laugh at guys like Scotty and the self driving naysayers. I'm sure that as the first gas cars went to market there were guys back then saying, "I'll NEVER trust a dang machine to transport me", "I like to ride my horse and will never give that up!" They'd make comments about how a horse just needs some hay and water to run on, versus oil and gasoline which was harder to come by. The future is electric cars that will be fully autonomous, and at some point it will be illegal for humans to manually drive on public roads. We will get back to the goal of it all, which is transportation.
@@batsonelectronics do you think they will ever be able to have full self driving cars like taxi's and stuff? They would need to rewrite some laws. How can a cop give a ticket to a car with no one in it for running a red light? They write it to the registered owner than he says I didn't do it I'm a doctor and I was in the middle of surgery when it happened.
@@batsonelectronics why? So even when they have full level 5 autonomy and driverless cars are proven to be the gold standard for safe human transport, you’d be against that?
Ben, you should have pointed out that JD Powers posted the brands with the lowest cost of ownership. Tesla was the lowest. Roughly 20% lower than the next lowest.
Welcome to the club Ben. I did a video commenting on one of his videos where he was reading an article with a really bad take on adding charging to gas stations. As far as I know he never addressed me specifically....but his fans came out of the woodwork defending his years of automotive experience as why I should not have even dared question him. Which is ironic since it was not a mechanic question, but a charging question. A topic in which he is decidedly not an expert.
Scotty is right about Tesla and other electric cars being basically unfixable after an accident. If ANY damage occurs to the battery, the car is pretty much done. The cost of the battery alone makes the repair exceed the book value of the car. This makes insurance rates soar for ALL OF US as the insurance companies are raising rates to cover EV losses. Just look at all the rental car companies that have backed out of EV plans as the cost to maintain and the depreciation for exceeds their worth.
Scotty has 6million subscribers - does he own his channel or did he sell it and is now the paid presenter? The narratives for each video on a large channel like that are usually non-organic and scripts are planned ahead. Anti-EV content can usually bring in the views.
I just sold a 1992 Corolla that cost me 1000 bucks and maybe 200 in repairs and had it for 7 years, sold it for 800 bucks. I very much doubt you can own EVs that cheap.
14:36 Cheaper, Safer, More Fun to drive, easier to maintain, except on longer drives: zero time wasted juicing up the car (when you can charge at home), more comfortable (adjust climate control with your Tesla App on your couch a few minutes before you have to go somewhere and the car will be goldilocked to the right temp when you get into it, not feel bad about lots of short trips causing moisture to build up in your oil or rust out your catalytic converter and muffler, the car will find chargers and (with FSD) even drive you to them on long trips, only regular maintenance is tire rotation, window washer fluid, and keeping tire pressure at recommended psi, can watch netflix, etc on the car's gui when not driving, lots of stuff to geek out on in the infotainment system, accurate prediction of state of charge on arrival at each charge point or destination, so much more... oh yeah, and it's better for the air for everyone around the car.
Kempower underpins the WA EV Network, which is a government-funded network provided by our state-owned power company here in Western Australia. They're mostly in really, really remote locations so they have to be super reliable. Never heard a bad thing about those units :)
I think the type of charger you install depends on your use case. If you're a gas station on the highway or BFE that people use to get in and out and go long distances, you put in super chargers. If you're one in the inner city near near a concert hall, restaurants, clubs, etc 11/19KWh L2 chargers would likely be a better fit.
@@stephkent2736 Kempower is a company which makes chargers. They do L2 and L3 public charging equipment that tends to be pretty much as reliable as the offerings from Tesla.
Scotty was wrong about the aluminum casted chassis. Teslas have several points of repair where damaged portions can be cut off and replacements bolted on. Usually there is no need to total the car for minor chassis damages.
Value is personal. If you give a fish a bicycle, you may be giving value, but the fish is not receiving any. Laws or no laws. Scotty refuses to make one very clear and conclusive consideration. If this world would be EVs only, introducing internal combustion as an alternative wouldn't stand a rat's chance. That is what secures the future of EVs.
My number 1 counter to Scotty would be in terms of the _Hard Reset_ thesis: How would we rebuild our world from scratch by reimagining everything from first principles. In the case of EVs, the argument goes something like this. Would we: a) Drill for long dead and decayed flora and fauna, pump it from deep underground or the depths of oceans, refine it, then transport it to refueling infrastructure where we put it in vehicles with literally thousands of moving parts, all to burn it once at a well-to-wheel (WTW) efficiency of just 11%-27% for gasoline (25%-30% for diesel), polluting and emitting GHG gases at every step for the entire life span of the vehicle? Or, would we: b) Construct vehicles using an electric powertrain that reduces the energy needed for driving by 32% to 70%, depending on the source of electricity, with the entire carbon debt from vehicle manufacture completely paid off within approximately 2 years of typical driving? Additional considerations include: • *Life span* - EVs are expected to last 200,000+ miles/12 years vs. 155,000/8 years for ICEVs. • *Performance* - With immediate torque available from a stand still, EVs are simply superior to ICEVs, not to mention just plain fun to drive. They're also much quieter, have less vibrations, etc. • *TCO, or Total Cost of Ownership* - With 75+% fewer parts, particularly of the moving variety, than ICEVs, EVs are virtually maintenance-free. Tire wear is equivalent to ICEVs while brake wear is substantially less due to regenerative braking. See also "Life span" above. • *Recyclability* - EV batteries enjoy a 15+ year second life in stationary storage applications once they degrade to the point where range becomes an issue (which is, again, 200,000+ miles/12 years). After that 27+ year life, EV batteries are 98+% recyclable, with the lithium, cobalt (though most new EVs use cobalt-free batteries), manganese, nickel, copper and aluminum all infinitely recyclable, meaning that we'll have to mine less and less of these minerals as time goes on. Lastly, electric motors are capable of achieving 1 million kilometers/620,000+ miles and battery manufacturers continue making advancements in chemistries. For example, CATL has just released a battery with a 1 million kilometer/620,000+ mile guarantee! Another data point is Ecotuned Automobile out of Quebec. They manufacture, sell and install bolt-on electric conversion kits for light-duty trucks, such as pickups, for which they fully plan to have installed in up to three successive vehicles. So here, the idea is to retrofit one truck, then when that one wears out, unbolt the kit and install it in the next truck, and so on. I know which option I'd choose.
I THINK he did a video of a borrowed Tesla. It was a terrible thing to watch. One part of him was wildly impressed. The other part was the "Crank for Gas Cars Forever'
I am quite curious about what will happen in the future with all the used electric MOTORS from scrapped electric cars....Unlike ICE engines ..old electric motors will perform just the same as when they were brand new. (perhaps only needing new bearings) They don't have a loss of performance.
Hopefully many of them will go back into vehicles. I've got a couple of electric motors which are at least 70 years old which still work absolutely as they should. I'm pretty sure they've never any maintenance on them, one of them still has the start/run cap on it that it came with to me over thirty years ago! (maybe I should change that now that I think about it before it fails on me just when I need it).
That future is NOW. The growing industry of converting old gas cars to EV, that sector will buy ALL Tesla drive trains they can find. See the video of a circa 1960s VW beetle with a Tesla drive unit. The Bug hath WINGS! And the weight balance is better
AEM EV is your answer! they'd be used to e-convert old Muscle cars and classic cars. I've considered embarking on such a project with a Tesla SDU at some point :)
I live on an island in Australia that has hydro power, my tiny EV can be charged at home from solar panels, I live in the inner city so I am making a difference in pollution that I just don't make, my car is 13 years old so it has already "paid back" it's manufacturing carbon.
I'm glad you break down his videos, so I don't have to watch them in their entirety. He might as well be screaming "Get off my lawn!" for 30 minutes straight in each of his videos. It's exhausting.
Thanks for providing a place where reactions to Mr. Kilmer's videos could be shared. A few posts pointing out inconsistencies or factual errors will get one blocked on Scotty's channel.
The problem is that as good as EVs are, there are still actually compelling reasons for and against them depending on specific use case requirements. For example, based on what's currently available, an EV truck would be a poor fit for a rancher in North Dakota. While an EV would be fine on the ranch itself, a rancher will likely want to use it to haul animals, supplies and equipment long distances to major cities, shows and fairs. The EV infrastructure in North Dakota isn't ideal and the severe cold of the winters also works against EVs. However, this is a niche use case. Most people in America aren't Northern Great Plains ranchers. I love my Tesla Model Y. I'm actually considering replacing my minivan with a 7-seater model in the next few years - assuming nothing better comes out.
See this is where projects like Edison Motors' Topsy project come into play, Diesel-electric series hybrids that borrow technology off of the mining and freight train industries. Basically the engine acts as an on-board power generator to top-up the batteries when hauling. Since the engine is solely driving a generator it means the efficiency of extracting the energy out of the fuel goes way up in comparison to having the engine drive the wheels. The Topsy Truck is an Electric Truck first and a Hybrid second. The Hybrid system is used purely for backup and supplemental power purposes.
I couldn't listen to him for more than 5 minutes at a time because of his 'style' so never had an opinion on his credibility. Not surprised he hates EVs, however.
Tesla charging open to other OEMs due to the govt $billions? Uhm, no. Tesla agreed to opening chargers independent of govt subsidies. Has the govt contributed to this ongoing effort. Yeah. But, it’s incorrect to attribute the access to govt funding.
Tesla opened up its network to other OEMs because they'd make more money from it and it'd increase demand of EVs as a whole, so that they'd make more money. That's it. Imagine if every carmaker had their own specific gas chains where they used a specialised nozzle that'd only work with their brand of car... Nobody would buy cars at that point, surely. There's a reason why fuel bowsers all have the same filler neck size and similar designs, to be as universally compatible as possible.
Scotty Kilmer reminds me of anyone who stops self-questioning whether their opinion on anything they give voice to is actually correct anymore. He's also biased through self-interest to maintain his views on his channel subject matter because otherwise his audience will inevitably start to drift away. I don't call him a fraud, but most of his views, on BEVs for example, are simply obsolete.
9:40 - Wait. What? Scotty's neighbor has a friend who's Tesla was totalled following an incident in which Scotty's neighbor's friend admitted to inattentive driving when the Tesla that was on autopilot hit a curb, breaking a wheel, damaging a motor and compromising the battery. The insurance company declared the Tesla a total loss, even though, to hear Scotty tell it, it was in beautiful condition, with only 30,000 miles on it before the incident. Scotty incorrectly relates this anecdote under the guise of "planned obsolescence." Planned obsolescence is actually a business strategy where manufacturers intentionally design products break or fail so as to encourage consumers to buy replacements, thereby increasing profits. Scotty's third hand tale of woe doesn't represent planned obsolescence in the least. To Ben's point, it's extremely rare for ICEVs to receive OTA updates. This is due to the fact that EVs are much more digital when compared to their ICE counterparts. For example, it's much less possible for the performance of an ICEV to be substantially altered compared to EVs where aspects such as drive modes, throttle mapping, regenerative brake tuning, etc. are all software-controlled.
Another great video! I used to watch Scotty. The thing with him, is that any vehicle with technology more recent than 1950 is "ready for failure" in his opinion. Yes, I agree that certain automakers - Kia, Hyundai, Daimler Benz - use inferior parts. I feel he just goes for the Jerry Springer effect. For the record, I own both a Ford Mach-e (don't call it a Mustang) and a 1999 Lexus V8. I love them both.
Scotty is all doom and gloom without doing any research from reputable sources to obtain the facts. He reminds me of an older gentleman selling cars at my local Subaru dealer. When I inquired about their electric Solterra, I had more facts than he did. Some of these guys refuse to change with the times and embrace new technology. That's how I ended up with a new Tesla last month. I would like to suggest Scotty starts to learn new things. It helps to keep your brain young. Who knows, maybe he will start to lose that shitty attitude he has?
In 1800, no region had a life expectancy much higher than 40 years. In 2021, the global average life expectancy was just over 70 years. Just think this increase in life span was over the biggest industrial revolution the planet has ever seen, which included a lot of oil and gas production. I am not saying we should not protect and clean up our environment, and yes, there is climate change, but please get off your holier-than-thou attitude. that EV's will save our planet.
Thin aluminium sections need close attention to the exact amount of heat transferred, and need more preparation time. That's all. The guy's last century.
My reasoning for buying my Tesla (Model 3 2024 Standard Range) has nothing to do with the environment at all. Here's why I bought mine (as an Aussie, all prices are in aussie dollars fyi) 1: Tax incentives. It's literally cheaper to lease a Tesla on a Novated Lease than to pay cash for it. (Depending on your tax bracket and budget that is) and since no FBT is passed on to you, you can save the equivalent of your tax bracket percentage off the overall cost and running of the car over the course of the lease. There's a solid $15,000 difference in overall costs of a post-tax loan vs a Lease, and that's money I can easily use to say, invest or improve my home with. I also get $3500 from the WA Government to buy an electric car, too. 2: Running costs. Teslas don't need fuel. Fuel is $1.50/L at the moment, on a cheap day, and like, $2.10 on an expensive day. Electricity is $0.02/kWh if i consume my own solar (avoiding the feed-in tariff i'd get if i sold the power back to the Grid), $0.33/kWh if i import it from the grid at night, and $0.69/kWh if I Supercharge. Fuel costs me $4500 a year to fill the car it replaces. 3: Maintenance. As a guy who plays mechanic sometimes, ie, i do my own car repairs, The amount of money i spend to just do an oil change every six months will basically come to around what i'd pay to charge the car for a full year. Add the fuel savings to this and it's a no-brainer. 4: Performance. They're quiet, they're fast, they're comfortable as all frig. I can do 0-100kph in 6sec and not get harassed by the coppers for doing so. The mid-range grunt an electric car has is nuts. Nothing you'll experience in anything outside of say, upper-trim muscle cars/saloons with big, stinky V8s comes close, and since those make a ton of noise when you're on song, you instantly become copbait the second you step on the loud pedal. There's no lag when you want power, it's there basically instantaneously. 5: Convenience. Waking up with a full charge after being plugged in overnight is fantastic. I mostly live off of DCFCs since i live in an apartment, but i do topups at home once or twice a week (as per what Tesla recommends for an LFP car) off of a 240V 10A standard GPO (Australia's equivalent to a NEMA 5-20 iirc). I only have to DCFC if i do a ton of driving in a day due to a lack of L2 charging, but even then, There's L2 chargers close by if I can't get a DCFC that day. 6: Security. Electronic locks make the car borderline thief-proof. Pin-to-drive? hell yeah. Sentry Mode? great for when you're parked in less than favourable locations. the surround cameras? Great to keep yourself protected from all the madlads in their Ford Rangers and Landcruisers who cut you off in traffic. 7: Efficiency. Teslas are _insanely_ efficient. Nothing short of a Hyundai Ioniq Classic comes remotely close to a Model 3 SR's efficiency and how much range you get for that tiny af battery.
I use to watch this guy when I had a Lexus. I'm now on my second Model Y lease and have stopped watching this guy because he is definitely full of shit when it comes to Teslas.
Ben, but you still didn't address valid Scott's point about what happens if aluminum mega casting gets damaged in the accident? Tesla is increasing the size of casting and now even small impact can cause total loss due to casting damage. This corresponds to insurance premiums for those cars, check how they totaled Cybertruck with tow damage.
There are “crush cans” attached to the cast frame. Those are designed to fail predictably and be replaced. A crash that damages the casting is probably too severe to be repaired.
Scotty is clueless as you pointed out. As time goes on he will be even become more outdated and out of touch of what's happening in the EV space. Everyone in our immediate family drives Tesla's and will never go back to an ICE vehicle..... Thanks for providing this channel Ben you know the facts.....
I think the transition to EVs IS an essential part of fixing gloal warming. I can't see how we could economically decarbonise the economy without them. Having said that, you don't need that motivation to buy one, it's the economics, but it sure is nice to know it's helping us get to net zero.
The interstate highway system was Defense Department program based on fears that The Soviet Union would invade the US and the interstate highways would allow the US military to respond quickly and the design of the interstate highways has built in ways to blow up over passes to stop the Soviet advance in case that was needed. In my opinion the debate is a philosophical argument between environmental good and economic good. One last very important note is that Chinese EVs are a national security problem for the US and allowing a hostile country control over your vehicle is dangerous.
Basically they took a leaf out of Germany's book when it comes to their Autobahns. Railways are pieces of infrastructure that can easily be sabotaged, bringing thousands of people to a grinding halt. If you're carrying say, a hundred or so tanks from a storage yard to a port, if you carry them on rails that's a big, angry target some dude in a bomber or attack aircraft can take out. If you bomb out a road? Turn around, find another road. Easy as. Also i'd argue it's not just the national security risks that you have to worry about, America is still a country that _builds cars_ so you have every right to protect your local manufacturing industry.
Once EVs started gaining traction, Scotty became anti EV. His whole life has been about ICE cars and has regularly displayed his bias and lack of EV knowledge to such an extent that I was sure the OEMs and oil companies were sending him checks.
All of what you’re using to try and “burn” Scotty, regarding sponsorship and FTC, are assumptions on your part. Even in the clip you used as “evidence”, Scotty admits he was given the merchandise to review. What is the context of ‘given’ in your example? You do not know, and neither do I. You’re riding on his coattails and living in his shadow. Scotty “wanting” an EV company (Tesla) sponsorship, is an extremely weak argument, and only an argument, not fact, as you insinuate. And as far as EVs are concerned: EVs are driven less than a “comparable” average non-EV, hence a lower insurance liability. EVs are inconvenient unless you’re a person in a very specific and limited use niche. Or, someone who has a lot of time on their hands. EV’s “carbon footprint” is equal or greater than an equivalent combustion engine vehicle. The majority of electricity needed to propel an EV is made with fossil fuel. The environmental impact from manufacturing the components and assembling the EVs are equal or greater than an equivalent combustion engine vehicle. All of your points are conjecture and assumptions, or, you rely on unreliable (skewed-EV favored) statistics and “reports” from unreliable entities. EVs will likely be the future of transportation but only when there is a mode of making and storing electricity that meets or exceeds the capabilities of the current energy ecosystem in use. I eagerly await leaps in battery/energy storage advancements, electricity generation, and other forms of useful energy. Current options to get behind and support the innovation of: Hybrid vehicles Nuclear Fission power Nuclear Fussion power Hydrogen Trump
I think it was a missed opportunity to except your car's damage (a pre-megacast one, right?), Tesla says they design the casts to fail predictable on impact. So a light impact might just collapse the first part of it. Then they have new parts that are like a subset of the cast and can be put in place once the damaged section is cut out. I don't know how they fasten them together. Anyone remember this? Has Munro also pointed it out (I haven't seen all the teardown videos)? What we don't know is how often this works - how they can repair it.
I can't imagine insurance companies approving welding a die casting together, rightly. It seems like a big step toward making cars disposable, that may be ok to a degree, mostly for safety
@@rp9674 If there is a twist in the chassis of pretty much any multiple-segment welded monocoque chassis it's considered a writeoff. Once metal bends it stays bent.
@@rp9674 Either way your car's kinda toast at that point. You're hitting something hard enough to crush the front substructures you best believe you're not repairing that vehicle without spending more than what it's worth
@benSullins I agree with Scotty, in that a simple incident with a Tesla, can be a very expensive transaction, compared to a Toyota Camry. Happened with my Model Y, I hit a curve and the cost was over 7k in South Florida.
He was saying the car would be totaled because it’s unrepairable. I agree repair costs definitely can be more with Tesla due to their approach to service
I've known guys like Scotty my whole life. I grew up around them. You learn they are idiots very quickly and you believe nothing from what they say unless proven otherwise. I wouldn't let this guy touch my lawnmower.
Hi Ben. I'm in the UK and have owned EV's since 2013. The insurance premium for my Long range Model Y has tripled since 2022 (£550 to £1600 with my insurer). This is the same insurer who launched a Tesla specific policy when the Model 3 arrived in 1999. The primary reason for the increase is the cost of repair of EVs with battery damage being the main offender. From next year my car will be in the luxury vehicle band for road fund tax (£500 per annum from £0 previously). Currently used prices have tumbled here with my £60K 12/22 Model Y estimated at £31K by the industry. I invested in a lot of renewable tech in my house and was charging my car for almost nothing. These changes have made it significantly more expensive for me, based on my annual mileage, than running an ICE vehicle. How are insurance premiums in the US trending?
When you make it personal, it becomes biased. Even if you claim your argument is based on proven data, the interpretation of them can be biased especially you admit your mission is personal.
I believe he rides a motorcycle, and yes, motorcycle manufacturers do send their new bikes for 'long term reviews'. This is probably why he expects the same 'free' review cars from EV brands. Edit: oh and I watched a short of him telling riders to dump their bikes to 'ride' on it like a skateboard in an accident. That's just stupid and he doesn't know how to ride a motorcycle.
A recent survey conducted by the McKinsey Center For Future Mobility reported that 46% of us car owners who drive electric vehicles would shift back to an internal combustion engine. The percentage was the second highest behind electric car owners from the United Kingdom at 49% of which would switch back. Please explain.
We are told that the combustion engine creates emissions that can cause lung cancer and breathing problems. But is this true or is the opposite the truth? Depending on where you live, for instance, in a suburb with lots of trees around, the internal combustion emissions can produce clean healthy air by boosting tree growth. Studies are showing that trees in the suburbs can be more healthier than trees growing in the wild. And the reason is, emissions from gas cars are making trees larger and thicker and producing more thick leaf growth. More thick leaf growth means they are producing more clean oxygen. A study by Boston University suggests trees in suburban areas may have a role in fighting climate change by absorbing more CO2. If cars go all-electric, would this have a negative effect on trees growing in the suburbs and along roadsides?
This is what I say to people after overhearing my wife explaining it to her church lady buddies “it costs more than $100 to fill our Volvo after 500km while the Tesla takes $8 to fill at home, $35 on the road, free at the hotel, you tell me what the future is”. My Model 3 has had 1 repair in 135,000 km and it was totally my fault. The Volvo is a great car, partially because we have great mechanics and nothing to do with the local StealerShip but it is expensive to operate. My Favourite thing about Scotty is that the Click Bait headlines are tangentially, at best, related to his Beef Of The Day. I haven’t noticed the cat for a while ….
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@@billybobbob3003 According to Tesla's Model Y collision repair procedures manual the cast aluminum can be repaired or entirely replaced and they provide full documentation on all options. See Tesla's "Cast Rear Underbody (1-Piece) Repair Guidelines"
@@billybobbob3003 Munro was cutting out parts fast and they did it well before the manual was out on service dot Tesla. They literally have a step by step now.
@ScottyKilmer is actually in the community for views and comments for monetization. Please don't take it so serious. The more discussion and controversy he rises in the comments "suction" the more money he gets.
@@billybobbob3003I read somewhere the rear casting is about $1000 US as Tesla doesn’t make a mark up on parts.
When I was a kid in the 60’s I knew a mechanic like Scotty and he was like a mentor and I admired him and thought he knew everything. Then I went to college and got an engineering degree and after working about 10 years in the field ran into my old “mentor” again in his new shop. I helped him with a couple issues he was working with, and was astonished by all that he didn’t know. There’s a big, big difference between diagnosing a broken part and swapping it out efficiently and designing or developing something new. It’s a whole different thing. Scotty’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. As a retired engineer who’s designed for legacy manufacturers as well as having a lifetime hobby restoring vintage cars, I will have to say that I rarely agree with Scotty, and most certainly his comments on EV’s are utter nonsense. I should add I’ve been driving a Tesla Model 3 LR for 5 years and it’s by far the finest car I’ve ever owned.
thanks for sharing!
@@johncahill3644 I leased my first EV, and I love it. It's not a Tesla but a Kona SEL. Smooth quiet exceleration. I also own a Mazda 6 turbo but I don't use it as much and it's also fun to drive. I don't visit the gas stations too frequently and I charge my EV at home. Charging at home is sweet.
Well said an you are absolutely right.
"Scotty’s biggest problem is that he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know." - Importantly to add it would seem, intentionally so!
Did you get a custom interior at a 3rd party auto upholstery shop? I hear that Tesla have horrible interiors. With the fuel savings you can spend $5k and have an amazing inside to match the tech!
I have been driving an EV for almost 4 years, I wouldn't go back to ICE. Scotty indicating that anyone who enjoys an EV has been duped is hilarious.
You would if you had to do the drive I just did, emergency interstate travel bc relative had a bad fall. Had to drop everything to get there, 300km with the tank half full, for the Isuzu D-Max is no issue, more driving at the destination to get hospital bits and pieces, no time to stop. No chargers at the motel, nearest charger is 160km away. An EV wouldnt have made it. back home the next morning, 50L of fuel in about 4 minutes. Time is money
@@MrkBO8 You mean you don't plan your drive?
@@MrkBO8, same thing was said about cars at the beginning of the 20th century.
@@MrkBO8 "Had to drop everything to get there, 300km" WTF 300 Kilometers, that is way too easy. I thought you were going to say something unreasonable like 800km. You are a scammer propagandist if you do not realize 300km in a modern 450km range BEV is VERY EASY!
(Note the photo on my UA-cam page is Mt Buller I shot my self)
@@MrkBO8 "An EV wouldn't have made it, nearest charger is 160km away" LIES! That is not even plausible in Australia where OUR EV infrastructure is soo much worse. Hello from Newcastle. You are spamming wacko nonsense.
He is just riding the anti EV wave and trying to profit out of it 🤷🏻
Much better phrased than I
Nobody wants them.
@@JamesHawkeUA-cam that's funny that's what the Eevee haters always say, self-appointed spokesperson of everyone
I am riding the EV wave by holding Copper metal and Copper miners. Copper is expected to be $100,000 /ton around 2033 because of the need to build motors and transformers. Think cable theft is bad now? Just wait. Copper has already doubled in price since 2015. I have been doing solar since 2011 and our industry just laughs at this, no one will be able to afford electrical cable let alone the electrons. What makes it even more profitable is that all Copper mines are in decline, we have been mining it for 5,000 years and long story short, there is not enough left and the price is going to the moon!
If it wasn't for EVS nobody be using copper
A Ram 2500 diesel weighs 7200 pounds whereas a Cybertruck weighs 6600 pounds. So Scotty please explain.
i thought the cybertruck was around 9000, my ford lightning is around 6000
sorry just looked it up its 6600
@@timnevitt2993 yeah... it's the Dummer EV that weighs 9,000lb.
@@timnevitt2993Yes, they're about the same weight and price (if you got the top-trim Lightning, which you need to do to have specs close to the CT). But for that weight, the CT has a bigger bed (though smaller trunk), more load capacity, higher towing capacity, faster 0-60, longer range, and faster charging (and a bunch of other things that are better but they're not related to weight).
The Ram 2500 and the CT is a poor comparison.
The problem for Scotty is EVs will put a lot of mechanics out of a job.
By his own logic however, they are riddled with issues and expensive to fix. So really he would make more money as a results (if that were true)
@@BenSullinsOfficial I think the issue is he is running scared that he will become irrelevant.
Yes except for suspension and other common mechanical parts, hopefully some will retrain to work on EV electrical
@@rp9674 They are already. There are two shops in my city that now work on EV batteries and motors. It's not that big of a city either, I'm sure LA or NY have tons of shops already.
I own two EV's no mechanic is going to be out of a job, mine are in the shop more than my IC cars.
A mechanic wants a more mechanically complex car with thousands of moving parts to stay in the market, what a surprise!
And cheap/easy to fix so they can charge more for less!
If it hasn't got a layshaft valve trunnion grease nipple, it's rubbish.
Nope. They want cars that are easy to fix.
He rails against the mostly needless complexity of modern ICE vehicles, too.
Even "Consumer Reports" BUYS their cars to test them.
Same with Alex on autos ev byers guide he buys some for longer term testing like a year or too.
And consumer reports actually never takes ads and tries to be unbiased and credible (thus buying the products they test), despite the many whiny claims of the EV denial set. Re buying the products they test, this has been consistent with them for over 40 years I've been familiar with them.
Given that Scotty doesn't understand that accidental damage is not planned obsolescence, I'm not sure any of his opinions carry any value.
I also find his voice and mannerisms irritating.
And to add to that, even ICE get totalled all the time, in fact even more then EVs (but that may have to do with age of ICE cars vs EVs). All in all, it's about the same.
@@MrVolodus I think that''s why Scotty and his Ilk never do an actual ICE vs EV comparison, they just attack EVs for clicks.
That's why I barely watched 1 episode... Scotty is a bullsh*tter, from beginning to end of his videos.
I tried listening to him but he has an abrasive voice and the jumping around and waving his arms as if his pants were on fire distracted me.
I think he would be Ok to listen to if he spoke calmly.
@@ziploc2000A hater's gotta hate! But if you think about it he's a life long mechanic, and if EVs need less maintenance then we need less mechanics; also, he's from an older generation and a lot of older folks don't like "new stuff" and would prefer things to stay the way they have been because it's more comfortable and what they already understand
so nobody has sent him a car to try so he hasnt actually driven one for any lenght on time but yet tells eveyone they are garbage. Me thinks he does protest to much
And if he keeps calling them garbage then NOBODY is going to send him one to test for 6 months... 6 weeks... 6 days or even 6 minutes.
I believe that until we get rid of lithium batteries in the EV's they are not better for the environment if you count pollution from the drawing board to the dealer lot. The mining and making, repairing and retiring of the lithium batteries are the problem.
I would buy a EV if or when they use something else to power it.
I keep all my lithium tool batteries in a fire proof box that I bought just for that.
I can't do that for a EV if I bought one.
@@a9ball1good job with the fear-mongering and disinformation. Keep up the good work and perhaps Scotty can give you a cut of his ill-gotten gain from similar promotion of disinformation and b*******.
@@a9ball1 55% of the world's lithium supply comes from mines in central Australia, where there is like, three fifths of bugger all environment to damage.
@@a9ball1 Then you should also put your smartphone, airpods, laptops and game console controllers if any, and the list goes on, Litium batteries are everywhere! yes, on mayor scale on an EV, but the principle remains the same, they go boom if not taken care properly, which EV manufacturers are EXTREMELY careful about that, you know people's life and brand reputation, basic stuff.
No company in their right mind will let their batteries explode for no reason, take Samsung for example with the Note 7, now you're gonna tell me that you won't buy Samsung phones because of 1 incident that was taken care of almost immediately years ago.
About environmental BS, ICE cars have been around longer, polluting in the course of DECADES, and you're going to tell me that some mines a couple years ago are more harmful to the whole environment than actual CO2 being expelled to the atmosphere daily by the MILLIONS of ICE cars, trucks, planes, etc..., if that's your only point against the EVs... then please reconsider every time you turn on the ignition of your car/truck, which is worse, you know, oils, battery fluid, CO2,
I don't care about how EVs are green, mainly because we "save" on one end, but on the other we throw plastic everywhere and that's just being a hypocrite, but the savings are noticeable the instant you get an EV.
I always find it humorous when "ev haters" argue against EV subsidies. They always seem to forget that the fossil fuel industry gets over 500 billion dollars in subsidies each year (over 700 billion in 2023 in the US alone). That while the fossil fuel companies made over 4 trillion dollars in profits in 2023. But of course, that is to compensate them for the 7.5 billion EV subsidies and we have to nurture them because they are an industry that has only been around for more than 100 years. BTW, The IMF claims that worldwide, with direct and indirect subsidies, the fossil fuel industry received over 7 trillion dollars in subsidies.
I am not an Elon fanboy, far from it, but that was one of the reasons that Elon wants all subsidies (including those for the fossil fuel industry) to stop. Fuel prices would rise, making EV's an even stronger competitor for ICE cars.
It will not happen as long as most politicians can be bought and paid for by the oil industry.
I lived in Alaska for over 20 years, can confirm oil exploration and drilling subsidies are definitely a thing
Easier to add EV incentives then remove powerful petroleum industry incentives
Look at profit margins
I'm technically an EV hater. But it's only the lithium batteries inside them that I disagree with. The idea of an electric powered vehicle is awesome.
But with a firefighter in the family and hearing the reality of a battery fire I can't agree with it.
But when we get to a better power source I'm pretty sure I'll jump on.
Maybe solid state batteries?
Apples to Apples. My Mercedes C43 AMG with 400hp weighs 4,084 lbs. My Tesla model 3 dual motor with 429hp weighs 4,065 lbs. EVs weigh more? Nope.
That's also true for older cars. I had a 1974 Chevrolet Caprice Classic station wagon with all the options and it weighed 5800 pounds. 10 passenger tank.
Gonna use Metric units here because Australian, but my Tesla weighs the same as my old 2008 Holden Commodore SV6 Wagon, around 1900kg. Teslas are built around the battery pack as being a structural member of the chassis and therefore they factor the pack into the overall design package. That's how they can get them to be so light compared to the competition.
@@rtmpgt
Likewise! From a 2012 VEII sportwagon to a Tesla. It's a good car but the Tesla is lightyears better.
Average electric car is usually a little bit heavier, that’s just a fact.. However it doesn’t really matter 🤷🏼♂️
@@MrGoogle87 It may no longer be true in the near future as battery tech improves.
I used to follow Scotty, no more. We bought a Tesla, not to save the planet, but to use for short trips. Charge at home Level 2, and last year for 4K miles it cost us $120 and no issues with the car!
Same here. 6 years 58k miles. It’s been great.
I'm happy for you folks but I'll stick with my polluting gas hog.
I quit watching Scotty awhile ago because he has constant click bait.
@@a9ball1 My father who's 73 and a big time Trump supporter, felt the same way. He's always driven big trucks recently RAM 3500's but I got him to test drive a model 3 performance and he bought one instantly. He hasn't driven the RAM since and I'm using it for work now. Win win.
@@Ryan-ff2db I always wanted a 1 ton dually, preferably diesel but my wife said very firmly that if I bought one she would wave to me when I drive by on the way to divorce court.
@@a9ball1 Yes, it's diesel and good for work but man modern diesels are a money sink. Unless you need towing, like I do for work, I recommend getting gas. I've been waiting on a recall part for 7 months and the state won't let me register it without fixing it, which I can't because Stallantis doesn't even have a workable fix yet. I've been paying $50 temp registration every 90 days, hoping they finally get a fix.
Oh no Ben! You've touched a nerve! I honestly doubt Scotty's going to call YOU out personally because of the simple fact you succinctly defeat all of the arguments he makes. It's simple, *other* than his opinion he has nothing to call you on, and won't name you.
Excellent point. If Scotty mentions Ben by name, people will check out Ben's videos and see him systematically and surgically dismantle all of Scotty's claims. This goes for other people dissecting Scotty's videos as well, if it was in fact someone else Scotty was referring to. If you have a strong case, you'll be able to show the specific video critiquing you and show exactly why they're wrong. All Scotty can do is be a shouting inflatable tube man.
@@truhartwood3170”shouting inflatable tube man” LOL!!!!! Exactly!
When you have the facts, pound the facts. When you have the law, pound the law. When you have neither , yell like Scotty.
There are already dozens of reputable organizations and individuals spending lots of time and money testing all brands of EVs. Why would a car manufacturer send a $50000 unit to him?
And the difference is that those organizations do logical comparisons of comparable vehicles. Showing differing viewpoints. Taking into account the various benefits and shortcomings of different models and features, but skipping Scotty's accusing titles, doom and gloom proclamations, and shouting fear tactics.
Also, Scotty could just, idk, Email Tesla's press department, and request a press car for a period of time? They do it all the damn time for other youtubers.
I wonder why Scotty is so repulsed by the idea of telling the truth
He's just appealing to his audience
Mechanics are scared about their future. Fewer maintenance issues, less work.
@@gregsparrow1499yes, I’ve noticed that the biggest anti EV propaganda coming from mechanics. Not all mechanics and not all EVs.
🙏🏻😁👍
@@gregsparrow1499 This is why I think they are like this as well, even though ICE cars aren't going to just disappear one day. Decades after Scotty's retired, there will still ICE vehicles on the road.
He’s just old lmaooo. I’m insanely surprised he still knows how to use social media
🤣🤣🤣
The example of the girl at the bar just crack me up so hard.
Thx for this one, Ben.
Me too. You just know that in his younger days Scotty tried to chat up a lot of lesbians. That was a great analogy from Ben.
Scotty is the absolute King of Clickbait. I unsubscribed a long time ago.
That title is actually on his Wikipedia page. 🤣
@@kerigpope where
100% Agree!
Poor Scotty. He's a dinosaur of the car industry.
His idea of honesty is spouting off own his prejudices, er, did I mean preferences?
I've never seen Scotty before, but with his Joe Pesci voice, his strange mini Elton sunglasses, and his mannerisms, he does appear to be "quite honest" and "reliable". Just like used car salesman. What a goofball!
Hi Ben. I have posted "reasoned" arguments in the comments section of Scotty's videos, and he has "Deleted" some of them . . . . I think that when people run a channel, in which they delete opposing viewpoints in the comments, the only way we can respond is by "making videos" to criticize their false information . . . Maybe Scotty and other "comment deleters" are banking on the fact that my channel isn't popular enough for my critiques to show up in the UA-cam algorithm, but in your case, your videos do show up. Thank You.
I have had similar experiences on several EV Haters' platforms.
A lot of the deletions are the YT algorithm. I have had comments disappear immediately or just be hidden while still getting notifications from the thread.
I tried to resist the temptation to watch or comment his on his videos because it rewards him $. I think his son runs the channel Camila very good at clickbait, probably realizes pro/con EVs is a Hot Topic
Scotty reminds me of my old uncle who didn't believe in front wheel drive cars when they first came out. He said that FWD would never catch on or that they would kill the car market. Guess who was wrong?
Hopefully, I won't be mistaken for a twenty something with lots of cleavage, but I do appreciate the level of detail and the amount of research that you put into these debunking videos. Such a stark comparison between yours and his blustering nonsense.
he doesn’t do much research, it’s not hard to google a few things
He never feared calling out most car companies and has always leaned toward Toyota. He was helpful and when I was car shopping he was always trustworthy on Toyotas and Lexus but I slowly watched him go sharply off the rails with his take on Tesla. I watched him give increasingly inaccurate information tailored for the people that would be very ignorant of electric cars. The people that know almost nothing about EVs but act like engineering scholars about EVs. He is not making mistakes about EVs , he is outright lying about EVs with tricky misleading data cherry picking.
He’s gone from a helpful reliable source of information to a walking talking propaganda machine. Scotty is not THAT DUMB. He’s on Toyota’s side and he’s going down with their ship. Good riddance 👍
Thanks for the great channel 🙏🏻
Toyota is going down, for sure.
Scotty just released a short today called “Proof electric cars are a scam”. He’s still on the electric vehicles suck rant! 😂🤣😂
He is a sad little fool.
Hey Scotty, i bought and installed 12 EV chargers with little chance of ever getting them repaid, just because i believe our tenants should have the option.
Man if only more landlords were like you...
7:00 Yes! Everytime someone tells me that EVs weigh too much and should be taxed more or treated differently, I point out that a model 3 weighs LESS than a Ford F150 so why aren't the trucks being taxed more or treated differently for their weights?
*yes, I know the heaviest model 3 weighs more than the lightest F150 (by around 30lbs) but those are the extreme ends of each spectrum.
I know that here in NY, registration costs ARE by vehicle weight.
If they care that much about vehicle weight all of a sudden, shop by weight. My Chevy bolt is 3600 lb, my two first gen EVS are 3000 lb
The 'extra tax' on EVs is a fraud to a] embezzle funds to some pencil pushers pockets & b] to scare off EV buyers. Note, for example, Texas, with its oil, HAS an EV penality. Calif. with no oil lobby, does not
Heavy trucks actually qualify for some special discounts and tax treatments. That limit is 6,000 lbs and its what keeps a HummerEV on the road.
We are making a switch to Solar and an EV in 2025. Even though it’s a cost up front, it’s going to help us save a lot in energy expenses on a monthly basis.
I made that move this year, by getting a used BEV, home solar and a battery. It is not the best choice for everyone. But for many of us it makes sense in the long run to get off the fossil fuel treadmill. 🐀
I think a lot of these anti-electric car folks are making assumptions that the electric car crowd is a bunch of man-bun, skinny jean hipsters that are just too stupid to know any better than to buy them.
I've noticed they also are VERY anti full self driving. I see comments like, "I'll NEVER trust a dang computer to drive me and my family" or, "I love to drive and would never give that up". They also think Level 5 autonomy is only a fantasy and we'll NEVER figure it out.
Future generations will laugh at guys like Scotty and the self driving naysayers. I'm sure that as the first gas cars went to market there were guys back then saying, "I'll NEVER trust a dang machine to transport me", "I like to ride my horse and will never give that up!" They'd make comments about how a horse just needs some hay and water to run on, versus oil and gasoline which was harder to come by.
The future is electric cars that will be fully autonomous, and at some point it will be illegal for humans to manually drive on public roads. We will get back to the goal of it all, which is transportation.
Go have a look at Europe and places over there and tell me how they are doing on the switch over to EV's.
I am good with EV's but I am anti full self driving also.
@@batsonelectronics do you think they will ever be able to have full self driving cars like taxi's and stuff? They would need to rewrite some laws. How can a cop give a ticket to a car with no one in it for running a red light? They write it to the registered owner than he says I didn't do it I'm a doctor and I was in the middle of surgery when it happened.
@@a9ball1 the cars won’t break the law .. that’s what humans do
@@batsonelectronics why? So even when they have full level 5 autonomy and driverless cars are proven to be the gold standard for safe human transport, you’d be against that?
Ben, you should have pointed out that JD Powers posted the brands with the lowest cost of ownership. Tesla was the lowest. Roughly 20% lower than the next lowest.
Welcome to the club Ben. I did a video commenting on one of his videos where he was reading an article with a really bad take on adding charging to gas stations. As far as I know he never addressed me specifically....but his fans came out of the woodwork defending his years of automotive experience as why I should not have even dared question him. Which is ironic since it was not a mechanic question, but a charging question. A topic in which he is decidedly not an expert.
Scotty is right about Tesla and other electric cars being basically unfixable after an accident. If ANY damage occurs to the battery, the car is pretty much done. The cost of the battery alone makes the repair exceed the book value of the car. This makes insurance rates soar for ALL OF US as the insurance companies are raising rates to cover EV losses. Just look at all the rental car companies that have backed out of EV plans as the cost to maintain and the depreciation for exceeds their worth.
I will always support fighting misinformation and lies, whether I agree with opinions or not. Thank you!
glad to have you! Make sure to check out the new memberships option also!
Nice!
You've got a real task there. Good luck.
46% surveyed that purchased an electric car said they will not buy another. Says a lot.
Scotty has 6million subscribers - does he own his channel or did he sell it and is now the paid presenter? The narratives for each video on a large channel like that are usually non-organic and scripts are planned ahead. Anti-EV content can usually bring in the views.
I just sold a 1992 Corolla that cost me 1000 bucks and maybe 200 in repairs and had it for 7 years, sold it for 800 bucks. I very much doubt you can own EVs that cheap.
14:36 Cheaper, Safer, More Fun to drive, easier to maintain, except on longer drives: zero time wasted juicing up the car (when you can charge at home), more comfortable (adjust climate control with your Tesla App on your couch a few minutes before you have to go somewhere and the car will be goldilocked to the right temp when you get into it, not feel bad about lots of short trips causing moisture to build up in your oil or rust out your catalytic converter and muffler, the car will find chargers and (with FSD) even drive you to them on long trips, only regular maintenance is tire rotation, window washer fluid, and keeping tire pressure at recommended psi, can watch netflix, etc on the car's gui when not driving, lots of stuff to geek out on in the infotainment system, accurate prediction of state of charge on arrival at each charge point or destination, so much more... oh yeah, and it's better for the air for everyone around the car.
My solution for Scotty's channel was to select "Don't recommend channel." Problem solved.
Or if you have an elderly family member who sends you his videos as nauseum go on their computer and choose this option 😉
I haven’t watched Scottie for a long time because he’s been a schill for a long time.
Note the clickbait titles
I'm a huge advocate for Kempower. I would love to see more of their chargers installed than superchargers.
Kempower underpins the WA EV Network, which is a government-funded network provided by our state-owned power company here in Western Australia. They're mostly in really, really remote locations so they have to be super reliable. Never heard a bad thing about those units :)
I think the type of charger you install depends on your use case. If you're a gas station on the highway or BFE that people use to get in and out and go long distances, you put in super chargers. If you're one in the inner city near near a concert hall, restaurants, clubs, etc 11/19KWh L2 chargers would likely be a better fit.
@@stephkent2736 Kempower is a company which makes chargers. They do L2 and L3 public charging equipment that tends to be pretty much as reliable as the offerings from Tesla.
Because Kempower has an average uptime greater 99.97% worldwide, or are cheaper to install? Please let us know....
@@NoInfoFound It's all about the uptime. They're probs the closest thing to Tesla when it comes to reliable charger equipment.
Yeah.......? A collision is "planned obsolescence" ? Maybe I can try and get that back from the manufacturer on a warranty claim if I crash my car 🤣
@9:00 LOL!!! Imagine the sense of entitlement to think they should send him a free car.
To shit on after he says he knows about electric cars but then asks for one because he's never owned
Man, without you, I wouldn’t be able to fight FUD lol
Scotty was wrong about the aluminum casted chassis. Teslas have several points of repair where damaged portions can be cut off and replacements bolted on. Usually there is no need to total the car for minor chassis damages.
Value is personal. If you give a fish a bicycle, you may be giving value, but the fish is not receiving any. Laws or no laws. Scotty refuses to make one very clear and conclusive consideration. If this world would be EVs only, introducing internal combustion as an alternative wouldn't stand a rat's chance. That is what secures the future of EVs.
My number 1 counter to Scotty would be in terms of the _Hard Reset_ thesis: How would we rebuild our world from scratch by reimagining everything from first principles.
In the case of EVs, the argument goes something like this. Would we:
a) Drill for long dead and decayed flora and fauna, pump it from deep underground or the depths of oceans, refine it, then transport it to refueling infrastructure where we put it in vehicles with literally thousands of moving parts, all to burn it once at a well-to-wheel (WTW) efficiency of just 11%-27% for gasoline (25%-30% for diesel), polluting and emitting GHG gases at every step for the entire life span of the vehicle? Or, would we:
b) Construct vehicles using an electric powertrain that reduces the energy needed for driving by 32% to 70%, depending on the source of electricity, with the entire carbon debt from vehicle manufacture completely paid off within approximately 2 years of typical driving?
Additional considerations include:
• *Life span* - EVs are expected to last 200,000+ miles/12 years vs. 155,000/8 years for ICEVs.
• *Performance* - With immediate torque available from a stand still, EVs are simply superior to ICEVs, not to mention just plain fun to drive. They're also much quieter, have less vibrations, etc.
• *TCO, or Total Cost of Ownership* - With 75+% fewer parts, particularly of the moving variety, than ICEVs, EVs are virtually maintenance-free. Tire wear is equivalent to ICEVs while brake wear is substantially less due to regenerative braking. See also "Life span" above.
• *Recyclability* - EV batteries enjoy a 15+ year second life in stationary storage applications once they degrade to the point where range becomes an issue (which is, again, 200,000+ miles/12 years). After that 27+ year life, EV batteries are 98+% recyclable, with the lithium, cobalt (though most new EVs use cobalt-free batteries), manganese, nickel, copper and aluminum all infinitely recyclable, meaning that we'll have to mine less and less of these minerals as time goes on.
Lastly, electric motors are capable of achieving 1 million kilometers/620,000+ miles and battery manufacturers continue making advancements in chemistries. For example, CATL has just released a battery with a 1 million kilometer/620,000+ mile guarantee! Another data point is Ecotuned Automobile out of Quebec. They manufacture, sell and install bolt-on electric conversion kits for light-duty trucks, such as pickups, for which they fully plan to have installed in up to three successive vehicles. So here, the idea is to retrofit one truck, then when that one wears out, unbolt the kit and install it in the next truck, and so on.
I know which option I'd choose.
none of that is true
@phr3ui559 For those who "get it", no explanation's necessary. For those who don't, no explanation's possible.
That's a piece of work. Thanks.
I don't recall ever seeing a video where any manufacturer has sent him a car. His reviews are all broken cars his customers bring him.
I THINK he did a video of a borrowed Tesla. It was a terrible thing to watch. One part of him was wildly impressed. The other part was the "Crank for Gas Cars Forever'
I am quite curious about what will happen in the future with all the used electric MOTORS from scrapped electric cars....Unlike ICE engines ..old electric motors will perform just the same as when they were brand new. (perhaps only needing new bearings) They don't have a loss of performance.
They might have very very slight loss of performance but it's so minimal it's not even worth talking about
Hopefully many of them will go back into vehicles.
I've got a couple of electric motors which are at least 70 years old which still work absolutely as they should. I'm pretty sure they've never any maintenance on them, one of them still has the start/run cap on it that it came with to me over thirty years ago! (maybe I should change that now that I think about it before it fails on me just when I need it).
That future is NOW. The growing industry of converting old gas cars to EV, that sector will buy ALL Tesla drive trains they can find. See the video of a circa 1960s VW beetle with a Tesla drive unit. The Bug hath WINGS! And the weight balance is better
@@nickwinn7812 Jay Leno has some 1920 EVs with a perfect running electrick motor and zero maintenance
AEM EV is your answer! they'd be used to e-convert old Muscle cars and classic cars. I've considered embarking on such a project with a Tesla SDU at some point :)
Respect for coming out with this
I live on an island in Australia that has hydro power, my tiny EV can be charged at home from solar panels, I live in the inner city so I am making a difference in pollution that I just don't make, my car is 13 years old so it has already "paid back" it's manufacturing carbon.
A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing!🤔
And no knowledge can be lethal.
For the rest of us.
I'm glad you break down his videos, so I don't have to watch them in their entirety. He might as well be screaming "Get off my lawn!" for 30 minutes straight in each of his videos. It's exhausting.
No matter what Scotty says, it is still just his personal opinion. Very little science behind it.
Also, the aluminum castings have been able to be welded. It depends on the type of damage.
Thanks for providing a place where reactions to Mr. Kilmer's videos could be shared. A few posts pointing out inconsistencies or factual errors will get one blocked on Scotty's channel.
Commenting on his channel also supports him
The problem is that as good as EVs are, there are still actually compelling reasons for and against them depending on specific use case requirements. For example, based on what's currently available, an EV truck would be a poor fit for a rancher in North Dakota. While an EV would be fine on the ranch itself, a rancher will likely want to use it to haul animals, supplies and equipment long distances to major cities, shows and fairs. The EV infrastructure in North Dakota isn't ideal and the severe cold of the winters also works against EVs. However, this is a niche use case. Most people in America aren't Northern Great Plains ranchers.
I love my Tesla Model Y. I'm actually considering replacing my minivan with a 7-seater model in the next few years - assuming nothing better comes out.
See this is where projects like Edison Motors' Topsy project come into play, Diesel-electric series hybrids that borrow technology off of the mining and freight train industries. Basically the engine acts as an on-board power generator to top-up the batteries when hauling. Since the engine is solely driving a generator it means the efficiency of extracting the energy out of the fuel goes way up in comparison to having the engine drive the wheels.
The Topsy Truck is an Electric Truck first and a Hybrid second. The Hybrid system is used purely for backup and supplemental power purposes.
I used to find Scotty credible until I saw him ranting about EVs.
I couldn't listen to him for more than 5 minutes at a time because of his 'style' so never had an opinion on his credibility. Not surprised he hates EVs, however.
🙋♂️THANKS BEN FOR SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT ON SCOTTY 🔋🔋🔋
Aluminum can be repaired and welded
CONTRADICTION - says he knows about EVs, then says send me an EV so I can try it
Well done Ben.
Been driving an EV for 14 years. Never go back.
Tesla charging open to other OEMs due to the govt $billions? Uhm, no.
Tesla agreed to opening chargers independent of govt subsidies. Has the govt contributed to this ongoing effort. Yeah. But, it’s incorrect to attribute the access to govt funding.
Tesla opened up its network to other OEMs because they'd make more money from it and it'd increase demand of EVs as a whole, so that they'd make more money. That's it.
Imagine if every carmaker had their own specific gas chains where they used a specialised nozzle that'd only work with their brand of car... Nobody would buy cars at that point, surely.
There's a reason why fuel bowsers all have the same filler neck size and similar designs, to be as universally compatible as possible.
Scotty Kilmer reminds me of anyone who stops self-questioning whether their opinion on anything they give voice to is actually correct anymore. He's also biased through self-interest to maintain his views on his channel subject matter because otherwise his audience will inevitably start to drift away. I don't call him a fraud, but most of his views, on BEVs for example, are simply obsolete.
Never wrong. Like Ben said when you know something's not true and say it is it's called a Lie by definition.
@@rp9674 I'm not 100% sure that he does know. I find him a bit of a blow hard. He isn't listening anymore. Too busy giving his non-updated view.
Ben this one is classic! Keep up the good work! I need to pay Scotty a visit with the HaloCybertruck :)
9:40 - Wait. What? Scotty's neighbor has a friend who's Tesla was totalled following an incident in which Scotty's neighbor's friend admitted to inattentive driving when the Tesla that was on autopilot hit a curb, breaking a wheel, damaging a motor and compromising the battery. The insurance company declared the Tesla a total loss, even though, to hear Scotty tell it, it was in beautiful condition, with only 30,000 miles on it before the incident.
Scotty incorrectly relates this anecdote under the guise of "planned obsolescence." Planned obsolescence is actually a business strategy where manufacturers intentionally design products break or fail so as to encourage consumers to buy replacements, thereby increasing profits. Scotty's third hand tale of woe doesn't represent planned obsolescence in the least.
To Ben's point, it's extremely rare for ICEVs to receive OTA updates. This is due to the fact that EVs are much more digital when compared to their ICE counterparts. For example, it's much less possible for the performance of an ICEV to be substantially altered compared to EVs where aspects such as drive modes, throttle mapping, regenerative brake tuning, etc. are all software-controlled.
Another great video! I used to watch Scotty. The thing with him, is that any vehicle with technology more recent than 1950 is "ready for failure" in his opinion. Yes, I agree that certain automakers - Kia, Hyundai, Daimler Benz - use inferior parts. I feel he just goes for the Jerry Springer effect. For the record, I own both a Ford Mach-e (don't call it a Mustang) and a 1999 Lexus V8. I love them both.
I imagine some opposed the onset of fuel injection, didn't last long
Scottie tried and reviewed a Volvo XC40 EV .... and actually liked it. Which was a surprise. I see him as entertainment within a limited sphere.
The most you should expect from Scotty's to play both sides of the war
Scotty is all doom and gloom without doing any research from reputable sources to obtain the facts. He reminds me of an older gentleman selling cars at my local Subaru dealer. When I inquired about their electric Solterra, I had more facts than he did. Some of these guys refuse to change with the times and embrace new technology. That's how I ended up with a new Tesla last month. I would like to suggest Scotty starts to learn new things. It helps to keep your brain young. Who knows, maybe he will start to lose that shitty attitude he has?
As usual, he doesn't have a better solution
In 1800, no region had a life expectancy much higher than 40 years. In 2021, the global average life expectancy was just over 70 years. Just think this increase in life span was over the biggest industrial revolution the planet has ever seen, which included a lot of oil and gas production. I am not saying we should not protect and clean up our environment, and yes, there is climate change, but please get off your holier-than-thou attitude. that EV's will save our planet.
cant fix aluminium? my entire career is fixing aluminium..
Thin aluminium sections need close attention to the exact amount of heat transferred, and need more preparation time. That's all. The guy's last century.
My reasoning for buying my Tesla (Model 3 2024 Standard Range) has nothing to do with the environment at all. Here's why I bought mine (as an Aussie, all prices are in aussie dollars fyi)
1: Tax incentives. It's literally cheaper to lease a Tesla on a Novated Lease than to pay cash for it. (Depending on your tax bracket and budget that is) and since no FBT is passed on to you, you can save the equivalent of your tax bracket percentage off the overall cost and running of the car over the course of the lease. There's a solid $15,000 difference in overall costs of a post-tax loan vs a Lease, and that's money I can easily use to say, invest or improve my home with. I also get $3500 from the WA Government to buy an electric car, too.
2: Running costs. Teslas don't need fuel. Fuel is $1.50/L at the moment, on a cheap day, and like, $2.10 on an expensive day. Electricity is $0.02/kWh if i consume my own solar (avoiding the feed-in tariff i'd get if i sold the power back to the Grid), $0.33/kWh if i import it from the grid at night, and $0.69/kWh if I Supercharge. Fuel costs me $4500 a year to fill the car it replaces.
3: Maintenance. As a guy who plays mechanic sometimes, ie, i do my own car repairs, The amount of money i spend to just do an oil change every six months will basically come to around what i'd pay to charge the car for a full year. Add the fuel savings to this and it's a no-brainer.
4: Performance. They're quiet, they're fast, they're comfortable as all frig. I can do 0-100kph in 6sec and not get harassed by the coppers for doing so. The mid-range grunt an electric car has is nuts. Nothing you'll experience in anything outside of say, upper-trim muscle cars/saloons with big, stinky V8s comes close, and since those make a ton of noise when you're on song, you instantly become copbait the second you step on the loud pedal. There's no lag when you want power, it's there basically instantaneously.
5: Convenience. Waking up with a full charge after being plugged in overnight is fantastic. I mostly live off of DCFCs since i live in an apartment, but i do topups at home once or twice a week (as per what Tesla recommends for an LFP car) off of a 240V 10A standard GPO (Australia's equivalent to a NEMA 5-20 iirc). I only have to DCFC if i do a ton of driving in a day due to a lack of L2 charging, but even then, There's L2 chargers close by if I can't get a DCFC that day.
6: Security. Electronic locks make the car borderline thief-proof. Pin-to-drive? hell yeah. Sentry Mode? great for when you're parked in less than favourable locations. the surround cameras? Great to keep yourself protected from all the madlads in their Ford Rangers and Landcruisers who cut you off in traffic.
7: Efficiency. Teslas are _insanely_ efficient. Nothing short of a Hyundai Ioniq Classic comes remotely close to a Model 3 SR's efficiency and how much range you get for that tiny af battery.
I use to watch this guy when I had a Lexus. I'm now on my second Model Y lease and have stopped watching this guy because he is definitely full of shit when it comes to Teslas.
Ben, but you still didn't address valid Scott's point about what happens if aluminum mega casting gets damaged in the accident? Tesla is increasing the size of casting and now even small impact can cause total loss due to casting damage. This corresponds to insurance premiums for those cars, check how they totaled Cybertruck with tow damage.
There are “crush cans” attached to the cast frame. Those are designed to fail predictably and be replaced. A crash that damages the casting is probably too severe to be repaired.
Scotty is clueless as you pointed out. As time goes on he will be even become more outdated and out of touch of what's happening in the EV space. Everyone in our immediate family drives Tesla's and will never go back to an ICE vehicle..... Thanks for providing this channel Ben you know the facts.....
I can see him saying now it's okay to buy an EV, never wrong
Keep up the good fight, Ben!
Well said, Ben!
I think the transition to EVs IS an essential part of fixing gloal warming. I can't see how we could economically decarbonise the economy without them. Having said that, you don't need that motivation to buy one, it's the economics, but it sure is nice to know it's helping us get to net zero.
EVs are the way
The interstate highway system was Defense Department program based on fears that The Soviet Union would invade the US and the interstate highways would allow the US military to respond quickly and the design of the interstate highways has built in ways to blow up over passes to stop the Soviet advance in case that was needed. In my opinion the debate is a philosophical argument between environmental good and economic good.
One last very important note is that Chinese EVs are a national security problem for the US and allowing a hostile country control over your vehicle is dangerous.
Basically they took a leaf out of Germany's book when it comes to their Autobahns. Railways are pieces of infrastructure that can easily be sabotaged, bringing thousands of people to a grinding halt. If you're carrying say, a hundred or so tanks from a storage yard to a port, if you carry them on rails that's a big, angry target some dude in a bomber or attack aircraft can take out. If you bomb out a road? Turn around, find another road. Easy as.
Also i'd argue it's not just the national security risks that you have to worry about, America is still a country that _builds cars_ so you have every right to protect your local manufacturing industry.
You are too kind. He is an idiot or at least a purposeful clown. He has hundreds of videos confiring both his bias and state of mind.
Once EVs started gaining traction, Scotty became anti EV. His whole life has been about ICE cars and has regularly displayed his bias and lack of EV knowledge to such an extent that I was sure the OEMs and oil companies were sending him checks.
Scotty is the most annoying thing I've ever watched...
All of what you’re using to try and “burn” Scotty, regarding sponsorship and FTC, are assumptions on your part. Even in the clip you used as “evidence”, Scotty admits he was given the merchandise to review. What is the context of ‘given’ in your example? You do not know, and neither do I. You’re riding on his coattails and living in his shadow.
Scotty “wanting” an EV company (Tesla) sponsorship, is an extremely weak argument, and only an argument, not fact, as you insinuate.
And as far as EVs are concerned:
EVs are driven less than a “comparable” average non-EV, hence a lower insurance liability.
EVs are inconvenient unless you’re a person in a very specific and limited use niche. Or, someone who has a lot of time on their hands.
EV’s “carbon footprint” is equal or greater than an equivalent combustion engine vehicle. The majority of electricity needed to propel an EV is made with fossil fuel. The environmental impact from manufacturing the components and assembling the EVs are equal or greater than an equivalent combustion engine vehicle.
All of your points are conjecture and assumptions, or, you rely on unreliable (skewed-EV favored) statistics and “reports” from unreliable entities.
EVs will likely be the future of transportation but only when there is a mode of making and storing electricity that meets or exceeds the capabilities of the current energy ecosystem in use. I eagerly await leaps in battery/energy storage advancements, electricity generation, and other forms of useful energy.
Current options to get behind and support the innovation of:
Hybrid vehicles
Nuclear Fission power
Nuclear Fussion power
Hydrogen
Trump
Hahahahaha...seriously??hahahah Everything you say is wrong..
@ ok, explain.
It's funny he's biased about EV cars yet he owns one so I guess EV's aren't that bad if he drives one daily
hes doing it for the rage watching views.
I think it was a missed opportunity to except your car's damage (a pre-megacast one, right?), Tesla says they design the casts to fail predictable on impact. So a light impact might just collapse the first part of it. Then they have new parts that are like a subset of the cast and can be put in place once the damaged section is cut out. I don't know how they fasten them together.
Anyone remember this? Has Munro also pointed it out (I haven't seen all the teardown videos)? What we don't know is how often this works - how they can repair it.
I can't imagine insurance companies approving welding a die casting together, rightly. It seems like a big step toward making cars disposable, that may be ok to a degree, mostly for safety
@@rp9674 If there is a twist in the chassis of pretty much any multiple-segment welded monocoque chassis it's considered a writeoff. Once metal bends it stays bent.
Or unibody. Large aluminum diecastings make crack whereas s t e e l has an amount of bending it can do before totaling. There may be pros and cons
@@rp9674 Either way your car's kinda toast at that point. You're hitting something hard enough to crush the front substructures you best believe you're not repairing that vehicle without spending more than what it's worth
@benSullins
I agree with Scotty, in that a simple incident with a Tesla, can be a very expensive transaction, compared to a Toyota Camry. Happened with my Model Y, I hit a curve and the cost was over 7k in South Florida.
He was saying the car would be totaled because it’s unrepairable. I agree repair costs definitely can be more with Tesla due to their approach to service
I've known guys like Scotty my whole life. I grew up around them. You learn they are idiots very quickly and you believe nothing from what they say unless proven otherwise. I wouldn't let this guy touch my lawnmower.
Scotty debunks the debunker.
Hi Ben. I'm in the UK and have owned EV's since 2013. The insurance premium for my Long range Model Y has tripled since 2022 (£550 to £1600 with my insurer). This is the same insurer who launched a Tesla specific policy when the Model 3 arrived in 1999. The primary reason for the increase is the cost of repair of EVs with battery damage being the main offender. From next year my car will be in the luxury vehicle band for road fund tax (£500 per annum from £0 previously). Currently used prices have tumbled here with my £60K 12/22 Model Y estimated at £31K by the industry. I invested in a lot of renewable tech in my house and was charging my car for almost nothing. These changes have made it significantly more expensive for me, based on my annual mileage, than running an ICE vehicle. How are insurance premiums in the US trending?
You should make a video outlining all the EV's that are available today in the US market to buy and their price brackets
Thanks!
When you make it personal, it becomes biased. Even if you claim your argument is based on proven data, the interpretation of them can be biased especially you admit your mission is personal.
Everyone is biased, there is no escape from it. If we use data at least there’s some sense of truth to the debate
Gas cars have gotten 10's of trillions of dollars in subsidies over the years.
I believe he rides a motorcycle, and yes, motorcycle manufacturers do send their new bikes for 'long term reviews'. This is probably why he expects the same 'free' review cars from EV brands.
Edit: oh and I watched a short of him telling riders to dump their bikes to 'ride' on it like a skateboard in an accident. That's just stupid and he doesn't know how to ride a motorcycle.
A recent survey conducted by the McKinsey Center For Future Mobility reported that 46% of us car owners who drive electric vehicles would shift back to an internal combustion engine. The percentage was the second highest behind electric car owners from the United Kingdom at 49% of which would switch back. Please explain.
We are told that the combustion engine creates emissions that can cause lung cancer and breathing problems. But is this true or is the opposite the truth? Depending on where you live, for instance, in a suburb with lots of trees around, the internal combustion emissions can produce clean healthy air by boosting tree growth.
Studies are showing that trees in the suburbs can be more healthier than trees growing in the wild. And the reason is, emissions from gas cars are making trees larger and thicker and producing more thick leaf growth. More thick leaf growth means they are producing more clean oxygen. A study by Boston University suggests trees in suburban areas may have a role in fighting climate change by absorbing more CO2. If cars go all-electric, would this have a negative effect on trees growing in the suburbs and along roadsides?
and that new button you didn't know you needed, we all get it with an ota update. 😊
This is what I say to people after overhearing my wife explaining it to her church lady buddies “it costs more than $100 to fill our Volvo after 500km while the Tesla takes $8 to fill at home, $35 on the road, free at the hotel, you tell me what the future is”. My Model 3 has had 1 repair in 135,000 km and it was totally my fault. The Volvo is a great car, partially because we have great mechanics and nothing to do with the local StealerShip but it is expensive to operate.
My Favourite thing about Scotty is that the Click Bait headlines are tangentially, at best, related to his Beef Of The Day. I haven’t noticed the cat for a while ….