Buchla / TipTop Audio 200 Series | Episode 01
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- Опубліковано 4 лют 2022
- I always dreamed of having a Buchla in my studio. Now Buchla & Tiptop Audio have teamed up to bring real Buchla 200 series modules to eurorack, kicking off with the 281T and 258T. I am really bad with remembering all those numbers, but it's a quad function generator and a dual oscillator and both are super affordable (if not sold out). They don't use bananas, it's all true eurorack. Obviously this series will grow as my collection will grow in the next months, or maybe years.
Excellent unfolding, walkthrough and examples! ✨
Thanks Mr. Barton! I have to confess I had to go through your walkthroughs several times to make this video! Unfortunately I could not make a good patch to demo the quadrature switches.
@@CinematicLaboratory 🙇♂️ looking forward to what you do next! 🎉
This is WONDERFUL. Thanks, Robert!
awesome ! Congrats, this system sounds amazing !
Excellent video. I can't wait to get hold of these modules ;-)
Also bagged mine last week to go into my Sputnik setup. Splendid modules and a real joy to have Buchla 200's in Eurorack.
Excellent video, subbed. I received mine but I wasn't aware you could do so much with the two modules alone until I watched Todd's and now your vid. Thanks for the detailed demo!
You're welcome, it's been a pleasure to patch it.
Fantastic demo .. thank you ❤
Such a great walkthrough. Keeping me busy, hoping my modules will be arriving today!
Thanks. I hope you received them by now!
Oh my god, this blows any other videos about these modules out of the water!!!!! Good work once again.
It would be unwise to agree on this, just doing my best, sharing what I've learned so far. And fortunately it's not a competition. I love the modular community for that.
Thank you for this video. I’m so stoked about these coming out and anxiously waiting for mine to arrive. Your video was the first that I have come across that really gives a lot of “instruction” to the Buchla methods. I’m sure there are more out there, but it feels so mysterious most of the time. Like a secret no one wants you to know. These are the first modules that I have been really excited about in some time. Thanks! 🙏🏻
You're totally welcome and thanks for your comment! I think the Buchla 'visual language' is really clever. I hope you've received your modules by now and sorry for the late reply!
Cool and inspiring dive into these 2 TipTop Buchla modules - thanks \0/
fantastic!🙃💙thanks for sharing
gorgeous tones.. will copy your patch to get a feel for the two.. and take it from there.. if u don’t mind 😊
Make noise has taken the legacy of Don Buchla till now... Till now is the significant part here :D
These things sound amazing and they cost a fraction of DPO + Maths, and even if they do not do all that DOP + Maths do with a wavefolder and another tiptop/buchla module (that with attenueverters) could do a lot of things with a bit more HPs and less money.
I could not agree more and can't wait for the next Buchla/Tiptop modules to arrive. Maths has a few more tricks up its sleeve, but in the end it's 'just' two cycles where the B/T has four and the DPO can't blend between waveforms. On the other side, the B/T function generator doesn't have exponential functions so it's not as snappy as a Maths. But in the end it's the sound that matters and to be honest - and imho - the B/T wins simply because of the Buchla design. It's brilliant.
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Dpo can blend if you have the demod module but it is a bit module. One of this 258t ossilator with a folder probably take less HP.
The true fact is make noise has a strong west coast inspiration for most of its modules. You can always figure out how to reproduce something west-coast-like if you have maths and some other modules. They are very powerful, because Don Buchla inventions were powerful. I'm not saying make noise didn't invent anything, I am a huge fun. But now there is a true alternative and for my next system I definetly going to get these tiptops.
I think if you have buchla 257t and 281t you'll beats Maths omnipowerfulness easily!
On modulargrid I'm working on a new rack and for a bit more space it costs a half of the one filled with make noise stuff...
Also look at joranalogue modules.
Fantastic! Just in time. Got my 258t and 281t yesterday.
Have fun with them! I hope this video helps a bit, but I am just exploring too :)
@@CinematicLaboratory Definitely! Looking forward to more.
beautiful!
great video. If I wasnt' getting two custom 258's and a 281 made for me in buchla format, I'd be getting these modules. but I definitely want to try some of your excellent patching ideas.
wonderful video thanks
très bien _ bravo pour ces vidéos et cette musique
simply wow!
Great Demo!
I think this is the system that I will build…just got a euro rack case and it’s still empty! Thanks for this video
Great video as usual you really explained this well! I’ve been having so much fun with mine already. I’ve had it for a couple days. I heard one person say wiggle IG is a good stand in for the source of uncertainty for now. I find I patch way more cables with these modules and I love it! Lastly thank you for showing that holding the trigger down holds the sustain! I didn’t realize that 😎👍
Thanks, yes I forgot to explain that, but Mr. Todd Barton's videos pointed me to the sustain mode which is cool when you're patching gates instead of triggers/pulses.
@@CinematicLaboratory I meant to say wogglebug is a good stand in for source of uncertainty lol whoops
@@planetplex mutable marbles is great for that, too.
Absolutely! But I feel it's super cool to have a module so close to the original.
I like it a lot !!!
Thanks!
4:25 awesome drones multi tones.
Finally, real music!
These are amazing modules. They do however appear to be unobtainable anywhere. It would be wonderful if they become available again in the future (Tiptop Audio?)
Just heard about these, probably a good thing that they’re unobtainable for me at the moment! The quad function looks like a Maths killer, or companion! Only thing it might be missing is a Both input for modulating attack and decay simultaneously.
I don't think it's a Maths killer. What I miss most is the log/exp that makes a plucky AD. And Maths also adds the AND/OR/INV, the signal inputs and - indeed, the Both input.
Easel..??!!?? I wanna easel !!! 😃
Righteous
Robert so envious, I’ll never afford these but so many Permutations to explore, you’ll have a Phd in Buchlaonics by time you finished, potential is meltdown, have fun
👍🖐🆒🎶🔱🌀🌀🌀🕸⚡️🌟🌟
I don't have any idea about your budget, but for eurorack standards, these are really affordable modules comparable to the Mutable price range. E.g. the 281T is about 214 euro and the 258T around 200 euro. The originals would cost you about 2K. So these are officially my number one modules for 2022 for now.
@@CinematicLaboratory Indeed. I was so surprised by the price, I thought it was a misprint. TT could have charged half-again or twice what they are charging, and still sold out (imo)
It's hitting me right in the GAS
I’ve had my 281t for three weeks now, and it shames me that I haven’t yet chained its four functions in this manner. It’s on my ‘to do’ list…
There's so much more to discover so it's better to not be ashamed about anything ever :).
Just bought a FSS recombination engine. Now I gotta buy these. How am I going to feed my kids, Tiptop audio?
This is the way...
So is TipTop introducing a version of the QMMG?
Argh I've bought three 258t in row to be told they where out of stock, it make the GAS even worse ... Hope I can get one of the first batch soon tho.
Nice. Maybe I missed, but what effects were used?
I used a Typhoon in Clouds mode. Nothing special :)
I’m still waiting for my 258t and 281t, I thought perhaps I was fast enough to get in the first batch of orders damn it 😞 At least my new Knobula Poly Cinematic is arriving tomorrow, yay.
Maybe you did. Who did you order from? It appears the first batch is just going out from most stores, now. Got mine from Detroit Modular, yesterday.
@@mgscheue I ordered from Perfect Circuit…
I noticed a lot of people had them on preorder before there was any stock. They sell like crazy.
@@CinematicLaboratory It’s been hard to get modules in the US for the past 2 years, you literally have to pre-order months in advance if possible, or get on a mailing list and be prepared to jump on something as fast as possible as soon as you get the stock notification. I ordered the Knobula Poly Cinematic literally 14m after getting their email 🤨
@@symbiat0 Yes, me too! I immediately reserved one.
Is there a *functional* equivalent of the 281 among the currently available Eurorack modules that isn't a direct copy of Buchla? Does it have the same functionality or maybe is more capable? Or the new Tiptop Audio 281t is just the best option?
I am not sure. Maths, Frapp Tools and Befaco are clearly inspired by it. If I had to pick an 'inspired' design with a completely different implementation I'd say Mutable Instruments Stages and maybe chain two of them to get six AD functions or one big monster function. What I am missing on the 281t is exponential shapes so I'd still pick Maths above the 281t for plucky sounds. Stages can also do a good pluck.
@@CinematicLaboratory Sure, I know about Maths etc. When I asked, I meant the *quad* envelope generator.
The Doepfer A-143-1 complex envelope generator is probably highly inspired by the Buchla 281. The separate function generators are already normalized together and I think that you can do very interesting stuff with the built-in comparators.
@@jandobbelsteen8953 Wow, it has flown under my radar!
@@mpingo91 Yes, Doepfer has more of these modules that keep under the radar. Another interesting one is the A-149, which contains the core of the Buchla Source of Uncertainty
Hey, i can't decide. Two 245t's or one 245t & one 266t??
Honestly? 245 + 266. You can't make a longer sequence with two 245's except with clever start/stop programming and you'd need to glue the two sequences together with a voltage processor. Using the 266 gives you tons of options to get the most out of the 245 five steps, and I'd add a quantizer asap and a sequential switch.
How many Modules did Tip Top recreate for this Buchla baby? Hopefully they will release more than just 2 or 3 Modules next !
I dunno. Qmmg isnt worth the 4 or 5 grand, or stupidly more. But pretty cool
Mine are in the mail .. !!
Totally agree. I'd never pay 4K for it. But it's really great Tiptop and Buchla are going to make something similar available for below $300.