It's amazing what can be done with two modules (and Todd's fantastic knowledge). I can't wait to get my hands on these when they finally arrive in the U.K.
A nice explanation of quadrature would be really nice Todd. I have the sputnik quad and vco and use it for like double envelopes to kind of replicate breath... but don’t know where I got that idea originally
Hi Todd, thanks for your tutorials, i'am about to buy both modules to start my modular, i was wondering if i wanna trigger that couple with a keystep, where should i link it ? thanks!
i still can't understand what the quadrature function does. At audio frequencies, it would mean that output B will lag output A by 90 deg. But is that still true at lower frequencies? Do you simply take the period of A, and delay B's start by 25% of that period? I wish the manual would reveal this. I understand "west coast style" embraces the unknown, but that doesn't have to mean hiding information from those who seek it out.
Hi todd, can you help me with these questions: I have a system of some of the basic modules in the tiptop buch series, the sequencer 245t , the vco 258t? , the eg,281t and the random 266t. Additionally, i added a simple passive LPG by meng Qi, and a simple mixer module. Here's what I don't understand : I wanted to create a simple melodic sequence, heres the routing of the patch:, the 245t cv output is going to the vco v/oct, the vco output to the audio in on LPG, then the LPG audio out to the mixer, the LPG cv input gets a output from the 281t Eg. But heres the problem. I cant seem to get the notes to be more short decay, they sound more like they cant be cut into short fast decay sounds,(like a hihat for example) what they sound like is notes that have very little decay,even a partial slur/glide between them . Wouldn't the EG allow the sound to be short fast decay? To make the question super simple: How can i patch a sound like a 16th note hihat pattern with these modules? ( Or at least 1/8th note) And taking it one step further, make each individual short lenght note have their individual pitch. (I know how to turn the 245 knobs to adjust pitch into vco, but it's mostly the decay of the notes that doesn't sound right. Maybe i don't fully understand, but isn't an EG like a AD ENV? Wouldn't it allow for short staccato notes? Can you please explain in detail how to make the simple patch with these modules? Thanks todd
I have a question about Quadrature mode with the 281t. I just received mine and I noticed that if I put A(Cycle) an B(Cycle) in Quadrature mode if A has a long attack and decay and that B has a short attack and decay, B will stop cycling during the Decay of A. Can you explain why this is happening?
Hi Terry, I don't have the technical knowledge to answer your question, though Quadrature mode is predicated on A receiving a pulse in or in cycle and B in trans or sum. I'm guessing also cycling B is really confusing/clogging the intended structure/flow path.
Hmm…good question. It merely sustains for the length of the incoming cv but maybe it either the attack or decay are receiving a cv their might be a slew like effect. I’ll give it a try.
@@vgermuse Yea thats how it works with the Pittsburgh Voltage lab, set the func gen to sunstain and send the cv to the input (which is otherwise just the trig input) and it's a slew, I could do with a few more function generators in my rack that would certainly be a deal breaker. Thanks.
They’ve done a great job on these modules in terms of design 😻 when compared to the Buchla, how similar do they seem in regard to control, range, and sounds? And nice to see you getting into “Kirk to the bridge” territory at 7:45 🤓
thanks for the demo. i'd be interested to hear more about the top left cv-in, you were calling pitch, denoted 'processing input' in the tiptop manual. i'd normally associate the 1v/oct in with pitch!? the tiptop manual goes on to say it is for 'scaling, expansion, and inversion of pitch'.
Back in the day you might have a sequence going into the upper left then have a keyboard goin to 1/v oct to transpose that sequence. Many more options - let you imagination run wild ☺️
If you wanted a quantized sequence going into the 258, wouldn't you need to scale the voltage before the quantizer to narrow the range of notes? With the top left input, I guess you wouldn't really be able to use that for typical scaled notes? More for experimental non-western music sounds? For quantized stuff, would I just scale and quantize and use v/oct input like other oscillators? Would be nice to save an attenuator but I dont think it would work scaling after quantizing? I'm somewhat new to modular so trying to wrap my head around some of these concepts.
What a treat to go looking for demos of these modules and find THE Todd Barton demoing them!
Tiptop and Buchla hit it out of the ballpark with these!
So many cool possibilities. Thanks for sharing!
5:17 oooooo 🤩
It's amazing what can be done with two modules (and Todd's fantastic knowledge). I can't wait to get my hands on these when they finally arrive in the U.K.
😄😎🎉🎛 - looking forward to what you do with them.
Now I need buy them both.
Good video.
Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks Todd, just ordered one today, my first "Buchla" module!
Happy exploring!
Thank you!@@vgermuse
Loving these. Have both preordered. Hope you do more videos on these new modules!
Ah! Will do ☺️
Beautiful! The way everything interacts is very exciting. Looking forward to more.
Finally got mine today! Cheers for the tutorials and i am looking forward to a Krell experiment later on. Take care Colin
Hi Colin! Great to hear your cybervoice! Happy Krelling‼️
Thanks Todd for this!
A nice explanation of quadrature would be really nice Todd. I have the sputnik quad and vco and use it for like double envelopes to kind of replicate breath... but don’t know where I got that idea originally
+1 I'm having trouble understanding what quadrature mode does even with experimentation
Thanks for the demo! I'll have a good understanding of how they work once they finally arrive at my doorstep since I have both pre-ordered as well:))
Both pre-ordered!
Hi Todd, thanks for your tutorials, i'am about to buy both modules to start my modular, i was wondering if i wanna trigger that couple with a keystep, where should i link it ? thanks!
i still can't understand what the quadrature function does. At audio frequencies, it would mean that output B will lag output A by 90 deg. But is that still true at lower frequencies? Do you simply take the period of A, and delay B's start by 25% of that period?
I wish the manual would reveal this. I understand "west coast style" embraces the unknown, but that doesn't have to mean hiding information from those who seek it out.
For a better explanation ua-cam.com/video/VqENBYO2TAs/v-deo.html
Hi todd, can you help me with these questions:
I have a system of some of the basic modules in the tiptop buch series, the sequencer 245t , the vco 258t? , the eg,281t and the random 266t. Additionally, i added a simple passive LPG by meng Qi, and a simple mixer module.
Here's what I don't understand :
I wanted to create a simple melodic sequence, heres the routing of the patch:, the 245t cv output is going to the vco v/oct,
the vco output to the audio in on LPG, then the LPG audio out to the mixer, the LPG cv input gets a output from the 281t Eg. But heres the problem.
I cant seem to get the notes to be more short decay, they sound more like they cant be cut into short fast decay sounds,(like a hihat for example) what they sound like is notes that have very little decay,even a partial slur/glide between them . Wouldn't the EG allow the sound to be short fast decay? To make the question super simple:
How can i patch a sound like a 16th note hihat pattern with these modules? ( Or at least 1/8th note) And taking it one step further, make each individual short lenght note have their individual pitch.
(I know how to turn the 245 knobs to adjust pitch into vco, but it's mostly the decay of the notes that doesn't sound right. Maybe i don't fully understand, but isn't an EG like a AD ENV? Wouldn't it allow for short staccato notes? Can you please explain in detail how to make the simple patch with these modules? Thanks todd
Great video, so informative and helpful. Thanks!
Good God the 258 sounds so damn close to the original
Oh man, awesome thanks for sharing 👏👏
great video thank you
Nice demo. Thank you!
Wow!🔥
This osc sounds great ❤
I have a question about Quadrature mode with the 281t. I just received mine and I noticed that if I put A(Cycle) an B(Cycle) in Quadrature mode if A has a long attack and decay and that B has a short attack and decay, B will stop cycling during the Decay of A. Can you explain why this is happening?
Hi Terry, I don't have the technical knowledge to answer your question, though Quadrature mode is predicated on A receiving a pulse in or in cycle and B in trans or sum. I'm guessing also cycling B is really confusing/clogging the intended structure/flow path.
@@vgermuse Hi Todd, thanks for the answer. Keep doing these great videos :)
Great! Thanks!!
Great lesson, thanks.
🙃💙thanks
Hi Todd thanks for the videos, does it also work as a slew when in sustain mode?
Hmm…good question. It merely sustains for the length of the incoming cv but maybe it either the attack or decay are receiving a cv their might be a slew like effect. I’ll give it a try.
@@vgermuse Yea thats how it works with the Pittsburgh Voltage lab, set the func gen to sunstain and send the cv to the input (which is otherwise just the trig input) and it's a slew, I could do with a few more function generators in my rack that would certainly be a deal breaker. Thanks.
They’ve done a great job on these modules in terms of design 😻 when compared to the Buchla, how similar do they seem in regard to control, range, and sounds? And nice to see you getting into “Kirk to the bridge” territory at 7:45 🤓
Totally in the Buchla ballpark!
NICE！！！a respectable musician
Thats a lot of Buchla functionality for $410! ($199 + $210)
Add any keyboard or sequencer (even a computer) and… yeah!
thanks for the demo. i'd be interested to hear more about the top left cv-in, you were calling pitch, denoted 'processing input' in the tiptop manual. i'd normally associate the 1v/oct in with pitch!? the tiptop manual goes on to say it is for 'scaling, expansion, and inversion of pitch'.
Back in the day you might have a sequence going into the upper left then have a keyboard goin to 1/v oct to transpose that sequence. Many more options - let you imagination run wild ☺️
If you wanted a quantized sequence going into the 258, wouldn't you need to scale the voltage before the quantizer to narrow the range of notes? With the top left input, I guess you wouldn't really be able to use that for typical scaled notes? More for experimental non-western music sounds? For quantized stuff, would I just scale and quantize and use v/oct input like other oscillators? Would be nice to save an attenuator but I dont think it would work scaling after quantizing? I'm somewhat new to modular so trying to wrap my head around some of these concepts.
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Bruh!