@@Afeeq1011 more like "hmm should I get the white ally or the black one - wait why is that one cheaper? ooo this ally has removable joycons, this one has a sliding screen... meh the first one is too bulky and the second ones too small. huh there's another black one, but this one has a blue sticker on it and everyone thinks its a hate crime to own it?"
@@J4rring that last sentence... damn, it hits way too hard. Some people are so butthurt about Intel trying to get in the handheld market that they despise ANYTHING with the blue sticker on it. Btw, while Zotac Zone looks most interesting to me (thanks to trackpads) I really don't mind the design of Claw 8+ - double colour looks really nice and premium!
If they can get the price decent/competitive its golden. Literally no one has been asking for those stupid high res screens on these mobile devices. 1080p 120hz Oled is perfect. Dual USB4 and a full length ssd. this this is actually perfect.
No Variable Refresh Rate for the 120Hz display absolutely kills it. 🤷 SOOOOOOO close, yet still so far away.... 😞 We need small form factor VRR capable OLED's SOOOOOO GOD DAMN BAD!!! That would be literally the PERFECT handheld gaming device display!
the 16gb ram is the flaw , windows alone sucks almost 8gb , than you get like 8-10gb left for the cpu and gpu to run games .. it needs at least 24gb of ram to make sure you get the best performance possible out of this apu
I'm honestly not too sure how beneficial a high refresh rate for heavier Games is, since these Handhelds aren't extremely powerful and will probably run most games on medium or low with around 30 - 48 FPS, maybe more, VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) would be a more killer way of investing into "Game-Comfortableness"
It might sound weird but handhelds have reignited my love for gaming. I was so obsessed with upgrading my PC all the time to get the best performance and visuals that I almost forgot that gaming can simply be fun.
Exactly the same here. I used to just play competitive online games at 1440p 240 FPS. The Steam Deck oled opened up a massive new world of gaming for it and my life is better for it. I feel like my mind is expanding thanks to the Deck lol. It's like my fondest memories of the PSP only so much better.
@@gdpiscopo Indeed, for me it's amazing not being confined to a desk chair in front of a desk anymore, so many more options. I never expected to love the Deck at all but I do.
just needs a portable gpu and you're all good, im using the onexplayer pro 2 with the onexgpu and its lovely and so much more convenient especially with my busy schedule
2:30 Uhhh. No. Absolutely not. The last thing I want on my handheld gaming device is a webcam. Anyone bothering to daily drive it will have their own dedicated camera on USB hub, which tbh is probably going to be a much better image anyways.
@@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher There are many reasons to be scared of that. Let's just hope this handheld comes with or gets SteamOS. That way we can be pretty sure Linux won't be spying us like Windows most likely does
The biggest problem with these companies is how are they going to support their system in the long run. Look how legion go, it gets update very rarely and even the msi claw is already giving up on their first attempt and already planning to release a new version of the claw. That's why steam deck is still the king of handheld gaming 👑.
Zotac makes mini things a lot ton of mini nuc like pcs and even mini gpus compared to everyone else they have some of if not the smallest nvidia gpus around
teh steam deck track pads are one of the best and biggest feature that distinguishes it from other handheld pc's. im so surprised companies havent been using them more and i think its actually a pretty big deal that this has two
i'm very happy zotac entered the PC handheld market. competition is lighting up. i used to be cynical of PC handhelds, but that completely changed when i got my legion go. i use it all the time now.
Still waiting for maybe _one of the big makers_ to finally form a partnership with Valve and actually give us a handheld with Steam OS 3 on it, just to see if they would at all. Lol.
@@Patrick-y4d1znot really the same. Would need to also follow the input form factor which honestly this specific device could with it's touch pads. Also a purpose built steam os build would work much better at customizing performance.
@@gotenks157 Yeah, it basically is the same. ChimeraOS is effectively SteamOS but open. And no, it doesn't work better at customising performance. Performance is from AMD drivers. Which would still apply to this.
Its really great to see that touchpads and OLED screens are coming to other handhelds. I love my Legion Go but the Steamdeck OLED is just something else
I'm pretty happy to see that more and more devices are getting good-to-great HDR performance. So many people were burnt on ''HDR-ready'' (basically) Tv's and monitors to the point that there's tens of thousands of post online saying ''I don't see it'' and ''HDR is nonsense'' that that stuff ruined the reputation of HDR like Google Cardboard (and Phone-) ruined VR for many people :p
The UI is honestly my major concern when it comes to these. Do they have a custom interface? And what about steam integration? comparatively Small companies might not be able to support that device for long.
@@makisedrive3637 yes don't even consider windows hand helds because the standard windows ui sucks for hand held and they can't guarantee support for custom ui. Maybe if i didn't have a pc *and* a laptop. Maybe if I had to use one of these as a pc. I will probably buy a steam deck when they make a new one because it is an actual hand held with good ui. I also trust them and expect regular updates. those windows hand held just occupy a wird in between space in between pc and hand helds.
@@jimbobcheezeburger2020 been awhile since I saw the vid so I forgot what the Zotac has so I’ll just list everything the steam deck has besides basic Xbox inputs: - capacitive joysticks (basically it can sense when your finger is resting upon one of the joysticks) - dual, pressure sensing, trackpads with haptic feedback - 4 programmable back buttons - gyro Obviously, all of this is greatly enhanced by the addition of Steam Input Software that let’s you customize the hell out of these controls. This is not unique to the steam deck as it’s simply a steam feature, but it gets special love when used on a steam deck obviously. For example, you can configure multiple leves of pressure on each trackpad activating different radial menus and basically have “infinite buttons” that way
@@jimbobcheezeburger2020 steam deck has 4 back buttons this has 2. Though this has the 2 joystick scroll wheel things and more front buttons. so depending on how well the the remapping program works (either steam input or their own) this may have more inputs then the steam deck
FINALLY!!! A product that rivals the ally in hardware but has all the buttons/trackpads like the deck! I been looking at the ally but feel like I would miss the decks trackpads for use with steam input in mmorpgs. Wanted an oled screen too this thing checks all the boxes for me ill be waiting for this release! and a camera to boot! Ive always wondered why these devices didnt come with these! This opens up the possibility of an ocular mouse in future iterations!
to be real i have no idea why some firms just throw gadgeds into devices "because they can" like that webcam, when people would most likely preffer lesser price with a simple yet effective package. Unless they planning on some Face recognition lock, which sounds excellent on such portable device with your sensitive accounts logged into it.
Webcams cost almost nothing and are included as a differentiator. If two devices are about the same price and you use a webcam a lot, they've spent $1.50 to buy you as a customer. Customer psychology is weird. People like comparing spec lists and will often prefer tech with more features even if they won't ever use those features.
Cameras of that size are produced by the millions each year for cellphone and laptop manufacturers, Zotac could just grab any internal frontal camera intended for cellphones out of the shelf and integrate it into their handheld with barely any extra costs compared to a camera-less version To add the camera probably will cost them a couple of dollars and change per unit by the end of the production runs of the Zotac Zone in a few years.
Those dual trackpads might actually make it a competitor to the Steam Deck. The dual trackpads on the Steam Deck have been instrumental in my ability to use Steam input to play games like "Dragon Age: Origins" that don't have any native controller support.
I hate that I like this. It’s basically everything everyone wants and if you really wanted to I’m sure this would be an amazing STEAM OS device. As long as they have good software comparing to the Ally and good device support.
I wish these things would get smaller tbh. It's a pain traveling with my steam deck in a bag because it's so big. Give me the Steam Deck Lite and I'll be set for a long time
And here I wanted a bigger one so I got a Legion Go, but that is the nice thing about more of the big names in the hardware scene developing their own handheld with different characteristics; different people with different needs and tastes will find the one who best adapts to them, the more competition with a wider range of characteristics the merrier. It would be a dull market if every single one of them were just carbon copies of the Steam Deck.
Got mixed info on the power button being a sensor as well. PC World stated it was not a sensor and that the camera was intentended to be used for the quick unlock using face recognition.
If Zotac could boost the RAM to 24 or even 32 gigs, have options for more than a 512GB SSD, and possibly put in a bigger battery this would be a seriously awesome device.
i like the refpreshing of all the handleahds because its keeping general interest high. but i personally will be waiting for the next big jump in APU performance.
Whoa that might get me to switch from the steam deck oled. Having windows would be convenient. I can copy my games from my pc and play. No need for tinkering, adding it to steam.
The masses want a steam deck 2 that they can connect a quest headset to, and be able to download VR games to play off of it. SDVR. Thats what the masses want… It would make VR even more portable.
man im so glad steamdeck made the portable consoles mainstream again i know thw switch has been around for a while, but i think the steam deck truly gave fear to the big companies showing what others are capable to do in a portable small factor and not a high price cant wait to see everyone go back to handhelds
My dream handheld device: - SteamOS 3 and efficient OS - 8.1” AMOLED or Tandem AMOLED 1080p 165 Hz LTPO 3.0 and 2000 nits peak HDR brightness and 1000 nits SDR typical touchscreen (like Rog phone eight pro) - thin bezels or without corners - Latest Intel chip with 3x graphics performance vs. Z1 extreme on Ally or Legion Go, viable 120 fps AAA gaming - Dock performance mode - three USB-C with USB 4.0 and Thunderbolt 4 specification - RGB illuminated D-pad, analog stick, and buttons - 500g of weight - Hall effect sensors in every input (analogs or triggers) - 85 Wh battery - SSD 2280 PCIe 4.0 support - removable Wi-Fi Antenna
Definitely compelling! I'm still pretty happy with my first gen Deck but I hope this sector survives if/when the day comes I need a newer one to keep using. I really like the touchpads so I'm glad someone else is incorporating those.
All the other cool things aside, that dial around the analog stick is so ingenious. I would like that on an Xbox controller for volume control or sensitivity adjustments 200%
Huge kudos putting touch pads on it. Now if it only had four grip buttons, it'd be an unambiguous straight upgrade from the Steam Deck (assuming it's steam input compatible).
That would be the perfect handheld with the latest efficient chip, an 80Wh battery like the Rog Ally X, and a larger 8” OLED 144Hz LTPO 3.0 screen. Anyway, I’m excited that the competition in the handheld space is becoming very intense.
Im gonna call it right now, that joystick dial is next level big brain, and will become a standard feature on at least gaming handhelds, if not controllers too. Think about how LONG that joystick design has existed, and someone just found a way to give it another input method.
DAYUM! This might finally be the perfect handheld PC, combining all the best features of the Ally and the Deck. And I don't mind the short battery of the Ally that much. I won't mind it in this one. OLED HDR and VRR is all I ask.
I hate that I like this. It’s basically everything everyone wants and if you really wanted to I’m sure this would be an amazing STEAM OS device. Edit: as long as they have good software comparing to the Ally and good device support.
as i type this on my Steam Deck, I specifically got the Deck because of the trackpads but the Deck isn't strong enough for my usage. And I got an Ally which is powerful enough but no trackpads lol i havent watched this yet but feel this will be a great median
My only wish with it is that they placed joysticks above the buttons/d-pad and trackpads to where they joysticks are. Otherwise, this device looks very promising. Love to see it.
Not bad, although I'm not sure anyone is going to trade in their current handheld for this one. It certainly does add a solid device to compete with the current offerings for new customers. I wonder when we will reach saturation of this segment of the market. Just how many people are out there looking for dedicated PC gaming handhelds?
hell yes another handheld with trackpads, I love the steam controller and steam deck (though I wish it was track pad primary) and to me the lack on trackpads on other handhelds like the Ally is an instant deal breaker. I don't care how powerful or how long the batter life is or how good the screen is, to me no trackpads no buy, so I'll be keeping an eye on this. good job Zotac
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"does the world need another gaming handheld" maybe not, but the competition is gladly accepted
Ikr, I was considering the Ally X but if it's priced the same with the Ally X, I might consider despite my family being an Asus Elitist.
@@Afeeq1011 more like "hmm should I get the white ally or the black one - wait why is that one cheaper? ooo this ally has removable joycons, this one has a sliding screen... meh the first one is too bulky and the second ones too small. huh there's another black one, but this one has a blue sticker on it and everyone thinks its a hate crime to own it?"
@@J4rring that last sentence... damn, it hits way too hard. Some people are so butthurt about Intel trying to get in the handheld market that they despise ANYTHING with the blue sticker on it. Btw, while Zotac Zone looks most interesting to me (thanks to trackpads) I really don't mind the design of Claw 8+ - double colour looks really nice and premium!
@@bugbuster8598 how much
@@MaknGuy what do you mean?
If they can get the price decent/competitive its golden. Literally no one has been asking for those stupid high res screens on these mobile devices. 1080p 120hz Oled is perfect. Dual USB4 and a full length ssd. this this is actually perfect.
No Variable Refresh Rate for the 120Hz display absolutely kills it. 🤷 SOOOOOOO close, yet still so far away.... 😞 We need small form factor VRR capable OLED's SOOOOOO GOD DAMN BAD!!! That would be literally the PERFECT handheld gaming device display!
yeah also make it have 2 ssd slot
This thing is gonna go for like 1200 I bet
the 16gb ram is the flaw , windows alone sucks almost 8gb , than you get like 8-10gb left for the cpu and gpu to run games ..
it needs at least 24gb of ram to make sure you get the best performance possible out of this apu
@@moonkey537 Nope. $800.
4:17 props to the guy on the left (Linus's right)
I think that's DaPoets another tech youtuber
i laughed at that alot nice interaction.
@@5yfyguy218 Yes it's him, I couldn't remember his name thanks! I watched his water-cooling videos back in the day
@@5yfyguy218 Maybe they're there together and he forgot Linus was shooting a vid lol
@@gdpiscopo Nah he had to have done it on purpose. But I'm sure they talked since he is having a conversation with Yvonne
Honestly 900p/1080p with OLED screen is the perfect spot for handheld resolutions. A high refresh rate is the cherry on top
I'm honestly not too sure how beneficial a high refresh rate for heavier Games is, since these Handhelds aren't extremely powerful and will probably run most games on medium or low with around 30 - 48 FPS, maybe more, VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) would be a more killer way of investing into "Game-Comfortableness"
Lossless Scaling exists and works really well for generating 90+ FPS@@divisionic
@@divisionicthat's why Frame Gen is there. You can reach those heights with Frame Gen.
Taking notes here: When Linus is in bed, he don't like to get plugged into the bottom...
Sounds like a segue needs to happen after that statement.
@@JoeCnNdLIKE THIS SEGUE TO OUR SPONSOR
Wild comment fr fr
It might sound weird but handhelds have reignited my love for gaming. I was so obsessed with upgrading my PC all the time to get the best performance and visuals that I almost forgot that gaming can simply be fun.
Exactly the same here. I used to just play competitive online games at 1440p 240 FPS. The Steam Deck oled opened up a massive new world of gaming for it and my life is better for it. I feel like my mind is expanding thanks to the Deck lol. It's like my fondest memories of the PSP only so much better.
I find myself using it at home all the time even when I could be playing on my PC. Couch gaming or following the toddler around isn't possible on a PC
@@gdpiscopo Indeed, for me it's amazing not being confined to a desk chair in front of a desk anymore, so many more options. I never expected to love the Deck at all but I do.
just needs a portable gpu and you're all good, im using the onexplayer pro 2 with the onexgpu and its lovely and so much more convenient especially with my busy schedule
Same here bought a new setup for 1,8k 1,5 years ago. Barely used it. Got Steam Deck OLED and Im back in the game every day😮
Dear Handheld-Makers, Please stop trying to reinvent the D-Pad. Love, Your Customers
I was scrolling through the comments hoping someone said something about the dpad, and I couldn't agree more.
Could we all agree to make 8bitdo's dpad be the standard? It is just the best out there
@@Narding5566 No, it sucks.
@@Melamamoduro no, u
@@Melamamoduro stop being edgy. we all know its amazing
2:30 Uhhh. No. Absolutely not. The last thing I want on my handheld gaming device is a webcam. Anyone bothering to daily drive it will have their own dedicated camera on USB hub, which tbh is probably going to be a much better image anyways.
I thought it was kinda odd also..
then go ROG Ally, I am getting this
For a second, I thought it was running SteamOS which got my hopes up.
It looks like HoloISO
@@ovflowd I was thinking it's just big picture mode on windows. Wouldn't be opposed to HoloISO being on there natively if that's possible though.
@@ovflowd More likely to be just the new Steam Big Picture running on Windows unfortunately... I wish Valve released SteamOS publicly at this point
@@BurakCYldz Bazzite is pretty much 99% steamOS
And its gonna be limited if it was steamOS.
They should add a privacy slide for the front facing camera
Get over it already. People. You don't have one for your phone right? Exactly. People are so scared over nothing.
@@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher There are many reasons to be scared of that.
Let's just hope this handheld comes with or gets SteamOS. That way we can be pretty sure Linux won't be spying us like Windows most likely does
May I introduce you to the tape?
@@Lord_LindaThePhilosopher ok microsoft shareholder.
Literally just print one
Lol you'd think that Linus had never used a Steam Deck OLED before with the way he is reacting to this screen and its HDR capabilities.
He uses an Ally, so he doesn't get to experience handheld HDR very often. He was probably playing it on the flight over 😂
Also, he hams it up for the camera.
The biggest problem with these companies is how are they going to support their system in the long run. Look how legion go, it gets update very rarely and even the msi claw is already giving up on their first attempt and already planning to release a new version of the claw. That's why steam deck is still the king of handheld gaming 👑.
Thankfully Steam os should come out soon* and you can just install it.
(Soon in valve terms)
@@rodrigof.5956 Man, i can't wait to play Portal 3 in my Steamdeck 2!
Idk why you need it, there're gaming Linux distros and you can install all gaming drivers etc, on every distro pretty easily
@@sulfur2964 some people want plug and play and not fuck around for 3 days getting the shit to work and then play
@@kjacmyers799 literally gaming distros are made for plug and play
i’m surprised zotac is making something so ambitious, i always just saw them as a gpu manufacturer
I always liked their mini PCs 😊
They made quirky little sff PCs before it was cool.
yeah i've always seen them as the poverty spec gpu manufacturer
@@kzedNah, that’s like PNY
Zotac makes mini things a lot ton of mini nuc like pcs and even mini gpus compared to everyone else they have some of if not the smallest nvidia gpus around
teh steam deck track pads are one of the best and biggest feature that distinguishes it from other handheld pc's. im so surprised companies havent been using them more and i think its actually a pretty big deal that this has two
i'm very happy zotac entered the PC handheld market. competition is lighting up.
i used to be cynical of PC handhelds, but that completely changed when i got my legion go. i use it all the time now.
used to be the same until I got my rog ally
used to be the same until I got my Deck
16GB ram kills it for me.
@@BudgetGamerzWell, we don't know just yet
@@BudgetGamerz LOL 16GB of RAM is fine. I have zero problems with performance on my Legion Go.
A barely 5 minute video and they still managed to sneak in a segue
YES let's go, HDR 120hz 1080p, NOW we are talking
Without VRR it's just a liability.
@@DanKaschelDepends. If it can be capped like in the deck, it'd still be pretty neat.
@@DanKaschel Even my phone has 120hz display
@@DanKaschel
Why would we need VRR? We haven't since forever and it's been fine. What benefit is there that I can't get from just running V-sync?
vrr on handheld is pretty big, especially when hand helds are on the lower fps side, makes gaming ultra smooth even fps drops.@@Patrick-y4d1z
This has to be the only vpn ad not laden with fear tactics and or lies. Thank you for that.
Also this handheld looks pretty sick. Don't think I'd replace my OLED deck with it though.
PIA is a decent VPN provider, although i use proton myself
@@hey01e5 I don't use a VPN provider anymore, but it was PIA when I did, they definitely are solid.
I've used PIA for a couple years now and it's great.
been using PIA for nearly 10 years now, guess that says enough about it.
what a time to be alive for portable gaming. I love all the new competition, brings out more innovations
2:40 the steam deck also has an integrated mic but no camera
Still waiting for maybe _one of the big makers_ to finally form a partnership with Valve and actually give us a handheld with Steam OS 3 on it, just to see if they would at all. Lol.
Just run ChimeraOS
@@Patrick-y4d1znot really the same. Would need to also follow the input form factor which honestly this specific device could with it's touch pads. Also a purpose built steam os build would work much better at customizing performance.
Someone in the comments said Steam OS would be released "soon"
@@gotenks157
Yeah, it basically is the same. ChimeraOS is effectively SteamOS but open.
And no, it doesn't work better at customising performance. Performance is from AMD drivers. Which would still apply to this.
Valve's biggest contribution is still proton project. Valve could half life 3 to steamOS release and we'd still manage fine with other distros
0:30 The AYANEO Air 1S has an 1080p oled, but only 5.5 inch 60hz. At 16/9 it is just a bit smaller than the Razer Edge
Looks great. Wait for a price.
Probably $1,000
no price drop for now, better get yourself on a payment plan cheapskate
@@MackDaddyVicdrum roll please….it’s the same price as the rog ally x
Yeah, it's 799 just as most of the others are.
I got bad news.
...It's the same price as the ROG Ally X.
Not gonna lie this looks kinda neat. I like the idea of the dials around the sticks and that they put touchpads on it.
Glad to see trackpads!
Its really great to see that touchpads and OLED screens are coming to other handhelds. I love my Legion Go but the Steamdeck OLED is just something else
I wish it had smaller bezels
This is the most appealing windows handheld I've seen so far, those dual trackpads are legitimately so nice for navigation
good to see an oled screen of that size and resolution finally starting to become available for the sector.
I'm pretty happy to see that more and more devices are getting good-to-great HDR performance. So many people were burnt on ''HDR-ready'' (basically) Tv's and monitors to the point that there's tens of thousands of post online saying ''I don't see it'' and ''HDR is nonsense'' that that stuff ruined the reputation of HDR like Google Cardboard (and Phone-) ruined VR for many people :p
The UI is honestly my major concern when it comes to these. Do they have a custom interface? And what about steam integration? comparatively Small companies might not be able to support that device for long.
yeah the one thing the deck has over all of these is the software/hardware integration due to steamos unlike the rest of the handhelds using windows
@@makisedrive3637 yes don't even consider windows hand helds because the standard windows ui sucks for hand held and they can't guarantee support for custom ui. Maybe if i didn't have a pc *and* a laptop. Maybe if I had to use one of these as a pc. I will probably buy a steam deck when they make a new one because it is an actual hand held with good ui. I also trust them and expect regular updates. those windows hand held just occupy a wird in between space in between pc and hand helds.
only two rear buttons is a huge deal breaker for me unfortunately. I am very used to having four.
3:54 that's what she said
Dual trackpads!!! An actual steam deck competitor????
Saddly there’s still a lot of input missing but the best ones are there at least!
What inputs are missing just curious I'm new to these handhelds
@@jimbobcheezeburger2020 been awhile since I saw the vid so I forgot what the Zotac has so I’ll just list everything the steam deck has besides basic Xbox inputs:
- capacitive joysticks (basically it can sense when your finger is resting upon one of the joysticks)
- dual, pressure sensing, trackpads with haptic feedback
- 4 programmable back buttons
- gyro
Obviously, all of this is greatly enhanced by the addition of Steam Input Software that let’s you customize the hell out of these controls. This is not unique to the steam deck as it’s simply a steam feature, but it gets special love when used on a steam deck obviously. For example, you can configure multiple leves of pressure on each trackpad activating different radial menus and basically have “infinite buttons” that way
@@jimbobcheezeburger2020 steam deck has 4 back buttons this has 2. Though this has the 2 joystick scroll wheel things and more front buttons. so depending on how well the the remapping program works (either steam input or their own) this may have more inputs then the steam deck
If only it had a 80w battery
Just for you to know. you can order it online for 650. Free shipping on
this is literally the first handheld PC competitor to the steamdeck i am willing to even consider, what with the touchpads
If it's 3 times the price, it's not a competitor.
@AthenaAutocross no, it still is
@@AthenaAutocross Price doesn't matter.
"Does the world really need another one?"
Yes. The answer is always yes.
Front camera and kickstand are great additions, as plenty of people use their handhelds as daily drivers. But why only 16 gigs od RAM?
I don’t know, but the ZONE is the prime candidate for emulating a Wii U gamepad, once Cemu progresses that far enough, of course.
FINALLY!!! A product that rivals the ally in hardware but has all the buttons/trackpads like the deck! I been looking at the ally but feel like I would miss the decks trackpads for use with steam input in mmorpgs. Wanted an oled screen too this thing checks all the boxes for me ill be waiting for this release! and a camera to boot! Ive always wondered why these devices didnt come with these! This opens up the possibility of an ocular mouse in future iterations!
3:33 Well, that shounds off ... but then I remembered we are in June, so...
I came to comment about this too. 😂
Now that there are so many different handheld gaming devices, I think you guys should do a round-up of them if/when this one releases.
4:17 started flirting 😂
shhhh
the trigger toggle seems like a really good feature!
Can't wait to buy a new handheld😊
Looks awesome I just wish it had VRR, native landscape, much smaller bezels, and a bigger battery.
Why native landscape?
@@DanKaschelbugs with windows
It has a native landscape panel. ETA Prime mentioned it in his video about the ZOTAC from the same event.
to be real i have no idea why some firms just throw gadgeds into devices "because they can" like that webcam, when people would most likely preffer lesser price with a simple yet effective package. Unless they planning on some Face recognition lock, which sounds excellent on such portable device with your sensitive accounts logged into it.
Webcams cost almost nothing and are included as a differentiator. If two devices are about the same price and you use a webcam a lot, they've spent $1.50 to buy you as a customer.
Customer psychology is weird. People like comparing spec lists and will often prefer tech with more features even if they won't ever use those features.
yea that webcam is absolutely unnecessary😂
Cameras of that size are produced by the millions each year for cellphone and laptop manufacturers, Zotac could just grab any internal frontal camera intended for cellphones out of the shelf and integrate it into their handheld with barely any extra costs compared to a camera-less version
To add the camera probably will cost them a couple of dollars and change per unit by the end of the production runs of the Zotac Zone in a few years.
Those dual trackpads might actually make it a competitor to the Steam Deck. The dual trackpads on the Steam Deck have been instrumental in my ability to use Steam input to play games like "Dragon Age: Origins" that don't have any native controller support.
The most important question that seemed fuzzy is if it runs Steam OS?
It doesn't, that's just big picture mode
steam os is an exclusive ui, other manufacturers will have to create their own or pay steam to use the os
@@draco2xxsource on developers paying to use steamOS?
I hate that I like this. It’s basically everything everyone wants and if you really wanted to I’m sure this would be an amazing STEAM OS device.
As long as they have good software comparing to the Ally and good device support.
Sadly its not, as less battery capacity at likely more than twice the power consumption of the Steam Deck is not going to be great for a portable.
OS and sleep functionality?
Well... it runs windows so....
I wish these things would get smaller tbh. It's a pain traveling with my steam deck in a bag because it's so big. Give me the Steam Deck Lite and I'll be set for a long time
And here I wanted a bigger one so I got a Legion Go, but that is the nice thing about more of the big names in the hardware scene developing their own handheld with different characteristics; different people with different needs and tastes will find the one who best adapts to them, the more competition with a wider range of characteristics the merrier.
It would be a dull market if every single one of them were just carbon copies of the Steam Deck.
Does it have vrr?
Nope
@@jordanabendroth6458 aw, kind of a dealbreaker
I wish for the handheld market mitigates large bezels screens since it is 2024.
Looks pretty good. What's the OS tho? if its a full windows I aint buying.
its going to be windows for sure, looks like valve are the only ones willing to give good OS support
You know you can just install ChimeraOS or Bazzite OS on the Zone to turn it into another Steam Deck, right?
Oooo that little dial on the stick is smart and the bumper lock too!
the steamdeck oled your granny gets you, and you love anyways
Definitely seems way better than Steam Deck OLED
@@drew2626 Better be considering how much they copied it and the fact that Steam deck is now more than 2 years old.
SteamOS is probably the main reason to get a steamdeck over something like this
@@anudeepk7579theres nothing wrong with coping from competitors.
@@freefall5x how is SteamOS a selling feature for the Steam Deck?
This thing sounds like an interesting proposition if it has SteamOS, Haptics in the trackpads, and if it had 2 more back buttons
VRR people. That's what we need on these things.
Why isn't this a thing? It must literally just be too small a market. Hope that changes soon.
Not needed in the slightest. This has everything it needs in a screen. Only other thing would be increasing the RAM.
@@Patrick-y4d1z I would take VRR over more RAM anyday. VRR is extremely important when it comes to a device that has fluctuating performance.
I watched some other vids on this, and it also seems that the screen is native portrait, hence the no vrr
@@fuzzymuppet1990 what does being native portrait have to do with vrr?
Got mixed info on the power button being a sensor as well. PC World stated it was not a sensor and that the camera was intentended to be used for the quick unlock using face recognition.
battery
If it had at least 24gbs Ram I would be sold. 16gb is a deal breaker. Love my ally x.
To me, this is more of an Indie game or AA game device.
If Zotac could boost the RAM to 24 or even 32 gigs, have options for more than a 512GB SSD, and possibly put in a bigger battery this would be a seriously awesome device.
Sound like a Asus Rog Ally X
It really doesn't need more memory for gaming. The battery life is a bummer though. That thing won't last for an hour under load.
Yeah, they need to keep up and nove towards next year gen, not releasing last year gen stuff.
@@DanKaschel That doesn't mean more memory wouldn't be appreciated.
@@GPTLeader if the Ally X had track pads and a better OS it would be the undisputed champ.
i like the refpreshing of all the handleahds because its keeping general interest high. but i personally will be waiting for the next big jump in APU performance.
I’ve never been this early. I don’t know what happens next.
*panic*
Whoa that might get me to switch from the steam deck oled. Having windows would be convenient. I can copy my games from my pc and play. No need for tinkering, adding it to steam.
The sponsor segment sounds like he had to record it quietly to not wake his neighbors
The masses want a steam deck 2 that they can connect a quest headset to, and be able to download VR games to play off of it. SDVR. Thats what the masses want… It would make VR even more portable.
man im so glad steamdeck made the portable consoles mainstream again
i know thw switch has been around for a while, but i think the steam deck truly gave fear to the big companies showing what others are capable to do in a portable small factor and not a high price
cant wait to see everyone go back to handhelds
yes competition is ALWAYS great for gaming. I'm glad there are more of these guys in the market.
My dream handheld device:
- SteamOS 3 and efficient OS
- 8.1” AMOLED or Tandem AMOLED 1080p 165 Hz LTPO 3.0 and 2000 nits peak HDR brightness and 1000 nits SDR typical touchscreen (like Rog phone eight pro)
- thin bezels or without corners
- Latest Intel chip with 3x graphics performance vs. Z1 extreme on Ally or Legion Go, viable 120 fps AAA gaming
- Dock performance mode
- three USB-C with USB 4.0 and Thunderbolt 4 specification
- RGB illuminated D-pad, analog stick, and buttons
- 500g of weight
- Hall effect sensors in every input (analogs or triggers)
- 85 Wh battery
- SSD 2280 PCIe 4.0 support
- removable Wi-Fi Antenna
Why on earth would you want Intel? It really remains to be seen if they ever get the compatibility on part with even AMD.
Why would you want Intel though?
Oh I love how we have so many decks to touch and play now
Definitely compelling! I'm still pretty happy with my first gen Deck but I hope this sector survives if/when the day comes I need a newer one to keep using. I really like the touchpads so I'm glad someone else is incorporating those.
All the other cool things aside, that dial around the analog stick is so ingenious. I would like that on an Xbox controller for volume control or sensitivity adjustments 200%
Huge kudos putting touch pads on it. Now if it only had four grip buttons, it'd be an unambiguous straight upgrade from the Steam Deck (assuming it's steam input compatible).
That would be the perfect handheld with the latest efficient chip, an 80Wh battery like the Rog Ally X, and a larger 8” OLED 144Hz LTPO 3.0 screen. Anyway, I’m excited that the competition in the handheld space is becoming very intense.
This is golden. Literally just strap another 40w battery and you got yourself the best deal on handheld market
The dial is genius, but I would want it for either
A. Sensitivity.
B. Tension/Resistance. No more floppy, flaccid sticks, boys.
Thx. I now know the Screen of the Ally2 which which will be like 1000$
Battery is going to be a major problem against the 80wh competition.
Im gonna call it right now, that joystick dial is next level big brain, and will become a standard feature on at least gaming handhelds, if not controllers too. Think about how LONG that joystick design has existed, and someone just found a way to give it another input method.
DAYUM! This might finally be the perfect handheld PC, combining all the best features of the Ally and the Deck. And I don't mind the short battery of the Ally that much. I won't mind it in this one.
OLED HDR and VRR is all I ask.
I hate that I like this. It’s basically everything everyone wants and if you really wanted to I’m sure this would be an amazing STEAM OS device.
Edit: as long as they have good software comparing to the Ally and good device support.
This is everything a steam deck needs, ill be getting one at release.
If the final version has thunderbolt for external gpu usage and the price is competitive that's my new handheld
“this seems like a very compelling little package” -Yvonne to Linus
Zotac is such a success story in tech! I wish them the best!
Adjustable triggers/ stops and a camera in a handheld is niceee
as i type this on my Steam Deck, I specifically got the Deck because of the trackpads but the Deck isn't strong enough for my usage. And I got an Ally which is powerful enough but no trackpads lol i havent watched this yet but feel this will be a great median
I don’t understand that the mere 2 programmable back buttons… if I’m utilizing them it’s because I don’t wanna touch the 4 face buttons
Looks like zotac actually paid attention, massive kudos for that
My only wish with it is that they placed joysticks above the buttons/d-pad and trackpads to where they joysticks are.
Otherwise, this device looks very promising. Love to see it.
Not bad, although I'm not sure anyone is going to trade in their current handheld for this one. It certainly does add a solid device to compete with the current offerings for new customers. I wonder when we will reach saturation of this segment of the market. Just how many people are out there looking for dedicated PC gaming handhelds?
Adjustable triggers are actually a really great feature. All controllers should have them.
pretty sure many other reviewers said it doesn't have a fingerprint sensor as of yet especially since it's still in beta phase
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hell yes another handheld with trackpads, I love the steam controller and steam deck (though I wish it was track pad primary) and to me the lack on trackpads on other handhelds like the Ally is an instant deal breaker. I don't care how powerful or how long the batter life is or how good the screen is, to me no trackpads no buy, so I'll be keeping an eye on this. good job Zotac
The more Handhelds we get, the better! especially one as interesting as this one!
If i can use those dials to play Tempest 2000 that would be pretty sweet.
Ayaneo Air 1S is the only other handheld pc other than the SD oled with an oled screen, but it's only a 5.5-inch screen