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My left ear actually went deaf earlier this year and some days later my right ear followed. After about two weeks I suddenly could hear again with both ears. The doctors still don't know what happened and it could happen again, so I had a real scare moment when that happened in the video.
Best part about this expansion so far is all the side quests dedicated to explaining so many little stories of what’s going on , some are even like day in the life of these NPCs , definitely this expansions biggest strength so far
I was saying this right from the start of the expansion! The Coreway immediately struck me as a medical stent. The Titans didn't heal whatever wound they caused here; they've kept it open, and put a bunch of titan-flavoured antibodies (the Earthen) to keep the site clean.
I also like the idea of The Waterworks as a name. Of course it's a place where the water is used to create energy. But the waterworks is also informally used to refer to crying.
Did anyone else do the quest involving Fearbeaker, the Bronzebeard hammer, in the Ringing Deeps? And we go into "The Living Grotto" and fight a Genesaur? Genesaurs, of course, are part of the Botani, the Life-aligned baddies of the Everbloom... Why the heck was a Genesaur there? I think there's a rhyme and a reason to why we've been doing the specific old dungeons in M+ the last couple of expansions. They're to remind us of specific parts of the lore that will play into the upcoming story. There's a few I can't quite explain to myself yet, though, but a lot of it is "Hey, remember this? You'll probably want a refresher, winkwink nudgenudge" Reworked Uldaman should be pretty self-explanatory, as it was a major plot point in Dragonflight to get everything together. Further, Halls of Valor played into this, with our knowledge about Odyn gained from the books in new Uldaman. Darkheart Thicket played specifically into the Emerald Dream stuff we got in Dragonflight, so that's likely already been "done." Similarly, Neltharion's Lair was related to both the Neltharion storylines going on as well as specifically Ebyssian. Probably "done." The Everbloom is self-explanatory based on the above observation about the Fearbreaker line. Waycrest Manor gave us specifically the Drust, the other side of the Life-aligned baddies. Also, Mists of Tirna Scithe bring in the Drust, too... and what's going on with the Gorm, anyways? Temple of the Jade Serpent was to remind us of the Sha, but specifically in terms of the Old Gods. Remix was Pandaria for similar reasons. They want us thinking about Y'shaarj. Additionally, Atal'Dazar brings in the Old Gods in the form of the blood of G'huun... why did Yazma specifically take the Spider Loa's powers, anyways? Also, The Underrot fits into this specific pile. Grim Batol brings back the Faceless Ones, who are Old God aligned... also, remember Iso'rath down the road from Grim Batol? Yeah, we never really resolved that thing, did we? I'm sure it's not relevant to the current story. Throne of the Tides brought us the void Leviathans in the form of Ozumat. Also, hey, didn't we just get Siege of Boralus, which also has void Leviathans? And we're seeing them in Hallowfall? The only ones I can't quite explain away right now are Court of Stars, Shadowmoon Burial Grounds, Freehold, Vortex Pinnacle, and Necrotic Wake. There's little things, but it's a lot less obvious. I'm fully expecting the story to shift HEAVILY away from just "The Void" as we go into 11.1-11.2, drifting more into "Life can be bad guys too" and "Btw what the heck has Tyr been up to?" The latter I'm expecting to transition into "Btw what the heck has Y'rel been up to- oh, that's not good, Y'rel..." which would then segue into the Light vs Void expansion story beats.
If i'm not mistaken, i recall reading somewhere that Genesaurs are a worlds primal defenders? We even have those big burly dudes in ahz-kahet. Might have been a Bellular video, but in either case they were implied to be primal defenders of a world, just a 'natural occurance' so to speak, but with the old Gods and the Titans interfering with Azeroth, they'd have likely been expunged and seen as hostile and unimportant to the world at large (and the factions goals)
The current 'ascended nerubians' story, the Skardyn in the ringing deeps and the story of the nightborne in the court of stars are all narrative echoes of the orcs consuming demon blood. Perhaps this implies that the powers that be are going to become even more aggressive in their attempts to convert the mortals of azeroth into their preferred flavour of energy, as it seems likely that we'll end up fighting enemy lightforged, titanforged, void mutants and so on in the future. Shadowmoon burial grounds' final boss battle depicts an alternate version of a famous warlock/necromancer character in Ner'zhul, but in that timeline he became a void worshipper and attempted to summon the dark star, a void Naaru, which is fairly similar aesthetically to the ritual Xalatath is attempting to perform in hallowfall. Which makes perfect sense as Beledar is pretty blatantly some kind of Naaru-adjacent being's core. Perhaps this manipulation of Ner'zhul was also a call-forward to Xal's attempts to convert Alleria to void worship. Freehold (as well as plenty of the items we've seen in the trading post) seemed like more of a tie-in with Plunderstorm. I don't really have any ideas for Vortex Pinnacle. Maybe just to remind us about the elemental planes, which link in with the backstory of the primal drakes and particularly Razageth. Necrotic Wake might be there to serve as a reminder of the questline in Maldraxxus in which we learned that 'necromancy' is not a specifically death-alligned form of magic, and that any of them can theoretically be used to create undead, as we've seen with Calia Menethil and in the Priory of the Sacred Flame. I wouldn't be surprised if we start encountering undead of the other types as the story continues.
@@jamesfoster7854 Grim Batol and Necrotic Wake have some of the most notoriously negative reputations in WoW dungeon history. I very much doubt they are making these choices based on popularity.
I have to think that there’s two things growing in tandem right now in Ahz’kahet; the roots of the old world tree, and the remains of Y’shaarj (maybe N’Zoth). Then with Beledar it screams Naaru and goat people that tend to crash into planets. The Army of Light and Arathi just way to closely resemble each other, one just had direct contact with a Prime Naaru. That would be very full circle for Alleria and would explain why she’s seemingly so pivotal for whatever is going on.
@@RyuLightorb Personally I think it's likely to be a hybridized being containing parts of all of the slain old gods, with the energy Xal took from N'zoth when she was used in dagger form to slay him at it's core. Many of the void creatures in Ahz'kahet even look exactly like G'huun, who wasn't even a 'true' Old god, but whose death might have caused it's energy to sink into the earth in the same way that all of the real old gods' essences did. Considering that old gods are essentially just tools of war for the real denizens of the void, recycling their parts in this way seems like a very sensible way to make the best of a bad situation.
I love theorising about the WoW lore and this expansion has been great for that. I've spent hours and hours just exploring and piecing things together and have noticed everything you mentioned in the video. There's also a lot of under sea flora and coral elementals on the way down to Azj-Kahet but confined to just one or two of the layers before it turns into Azj-Kahet proper as you fly down. That coupled with the leaked "Rootlands" map, tells me we will have an area dedicated to the roots, the Haranir and I've got a feeling we'll be dealing with Goblins a lot, maybe alongside another group, as we help the Haranir defend the Roots. Which would link to the speculated/datamined Goblin Raid. The black blood is corrupting life, the world and the roots. The Haranir want to defend them. The Goblins want to profit and use it. Just like they did with Azerite. (I've got a lot of other theories and have posted about them online but I'll leave it at that for now.)
THANK YOU. I feel like I have experienced weird audio shifts to a single channel for short durations of time in a few Bellular videos recently, though didn't take the time to comment. It's kind of pseudo-painful when it happens too. 😕
You took a lot of little seemingly insignificant things and threaded them together in a way that helps us understand their connection. Bravo, great video.
Oh come on! if you haven't guessed it by now...Azeroth, and Elune (and I highly suspect Eonar) are *NOT* "Titans" Gods of Order. They are *LIFE* Goddesses. The Highest beings of Life. Don't believe me let's see...(Why is Eonar the *ONLY* Female "titan"? Why is Nature always referred to as "She"? Why is Elune a "Mother Moon" or the Goddess? Now if you are following me here...Magni when referencing Azeroth always calls Azeroth what? *SHE!* Azeroth is a Life Goddess. Now if we know that then we begin to understand why the "Old Gods were attracted to Azeroth, why the Burning Legion waged a war over her, why Elune circled her, nurturing her, why the Na'ru fled to her, and why Amun'thul seeks to bring her under his command. Life requires a balance of *Everything* not just to survive but to *thrive.* It needs Light and Void, Order and Chaos, Life and Death all in equal measure. Order however does not; so Aman'thul Ripped out both Y'Shaarj and Elun'Ahir. Order at the end of the day does not favor competition. It favors obedience. Now let's ask ourselves; what does favor competition? OH RIGHT! *LIFE!* Nature *thrives* on competition; so much so that it is the driving force of Nature Herself. Now ask yourself the biggest question...Where did the Void Lords, Titans, Na'ru, and Elune (if my theory is correct) come from? They are the "world souls" born from a "high concentration" of Cosmological Energies existent whilst they are forming. Aman'thul either "knows" this or has surmised as such and seeks to make *ALL* world souls "Titans." (His plan being to flood Azeroth with Arcane energy thus creating another Titan instead of A Life Goddess.) That all said...what None of them suspect, neither Void Lords, Na'ru, or Titans; is they are all being played by Elune. All of this competition, all of this tumult and change, *ALL* of this is doing *Exactly* what Elune wanted. Shaping Azeroth to become a Life Goddess. A Mother of Mothers. A Goddess of Life itself. Because as we learned from the Shadowlands if you played in Ardenweald Nature exists on Balance and Cycles. There is only ever *ONE* supreme Life Goddess. (Eonar being corrupted by Aman'thul's Arcane Energies. Not enough to make her "fully" a Titan but enough to tip the scales as it were.) So as Elune wanes Azeroth waxes. As Yesera said to Merithra...(ok so this is going to be the vibe of it...) "I will diminish as you shine." Elune is diminishing, and Azeroth is begining to "shine". They are completing the Cycle of Life.
With many eyes, they will see again. They will drink, and be uplifted. Deeper, deeper its roots will reach. Welcoming our embrace. Her dreams sing beneath the surface. Our dreams. Our song.
Just noticing how there's the leviathans and old god blood (the Black Blood) that's near where Elun'Ahir is. And how in some way, the effects wrought by the Void (like the Curse of Flesh) is kinda 'Life' domain like at points (arguably we have 3-4 races naturally occurring from Old God's biomass, and the rest are Titanforged made alive via the Curse, all this 'life' stemmed from the Old Gods)... And now just this ominousness surrounding the yet another hole left in Azeroth where Elun'Ahir is. I'm not going to be surprised if it's revealed that Elune is indeed more aligned or some being originally from the Void. Heck you can even think of how she's the Moon goddess being a metaphor for how people mistake moonlight as being directly from the moon, but the moon actually doesn't produce its own light, it just reflects it. And then there's the common adage of how the full moon makes people go more wild. Plus if her Old God body is actually in the moon orbiting Azeroth maybe that's why she became different. Anyway I'm thinking that along with showing how 'normal' even the Old God derived aqiri based races can become (despite descending from chaos gods' biomass, they all naturally became eusocial insectoids - the most orderly kind of animal IRL), and possibly with showing how Lionel 'evolved', it definitely feels there's going to be a reveal that the whole idea of Light = good and Void = bad is going to be turned on its head as a major plotpoint. Kinda like in Ori and the Blind Forest, where there are shadow creatures and light creatures, and the blinding light burned out innocent baby owls and sent their mother into despair and becoming the big bad. I think the reveal is that creatures of LIght and creatures of Void are just that - they're just different forms of life and can coexist when there aren't Lovecraftian monsters or giant planet people ripping out and leaving holes in the planet crust...
What taking that Coreway side shaft, you may notice that it loops back to a lower section of the Coreway right before opening to the Ringing Deeps. That section is full of debris and wreckage that make it look like the perfect place to connect new zones in later patches.
I’m pretty sure that the next zone we visit in TWW will not just be a “goblin zone” a la Mechagon like people are speculating, but an underground jungle a la Land of the Lost that mirrors Scholozar and Un’goro, and that Undermine will simply be a raid within it. The raid will probably involve us teaming up with the haronir to stop the Venture Company who is harvesting the roots as a replacement for the depleted kajamite, both of which probably draw from Eonar’s life magic.
Yeah there is definitely infighting with the keepers here too. If you make an earthen it gives a bit more backstory on the freysworn. There is like a robot that you can learn about the different edicts and it seems that either from the keepers or the titans themselves they didn't want freysworn to expand. They worked for life which is chaos and so keepers wiped the memory of freysworn to bring them to a difficult edict such as building dornigol and the coreway with the stonewards. So even though Eonar never told Amanthul about the roots. The freysworn were meant to be wiped out.
That vertical tunnel within the roots could become a path to a new zone in a future patch. Also, we have not seen the bottom of azj'kahet, or the bottom of caverns underneath azj'kahet. I wonder if we ever will.
I guess I'd like a little more explanation as to what life magic actually is. Light magic heals living things, the void take the shape of fleshy living monsters, who are somehow afraid of death. The titans themselves are alive, and Eonar fills the role in the pantheon associated with life magic, but Aman'thul forsakes her life magic because it is too chaotic. What exactly is going on here?
Ajhkahet has another cosmic link - you get sent to another respawn point if you fly into the void sky above the city - entirely different from the boot you get for flying into the palace area.
@@tacticalgoatman No, Un'goro crater was formed from an old volcano. Same as the Ngorongoro crater in our real world africa..... which was the inspiration for the blizzard developers to make Un'goro.
Something that would be interesting to speculate on is the origin of the black blood. We are quite far from other locations of the known old gods. Is it blood from Xal herself as she must have “died” someplace if she was an old-god like entity at some point?
Some mistakes here. There's optional dialogue early on that speaks about Dornogal's age. It's old, but not as old as the other Titan machinery. It's a city that was built up later, around the Coreway. Yeah, the roots mean Elun'ahir was likely here. And that likely explains why the Coreway was built here after the tree was torn out, and why it was important to Freya. But the Earthen would not have been here during the time of the tree, before the Titans brought them here for the Coreway project. Nor do these Freysworn claim that.
im sorry, but i gotta interrupt 12:45 ... the same thing happens if you fly all the way up above the big nerubian city, but with purple overtaking you. could just be game mechanic matching the color of mist that an art dev put there to keep you from goin up there for whatever reason.
What if beledar is being used to plug the actual hole of the tree? Can't have the sea drain into those underground caverns. We can however have a giant ordered crystal plugging that hole.
It's very interesting to me that the Void is SO strongly associated with water. I guess it only makes sense but it makes you think, does the void just naturally take shape in deep dark places on Azeroth?
The book we find in the emerald dream does "NOT" tell us that Eonar and Elune were romantic lovers. It says they had a love between them. Same as sisters can, and friends can, and members of a team can. All of which Elune and Eonar could have been. Sisters. Friends. Team members.
@@Pyromancer While in abstract, that could be a fourth option......I tend to doubt it given the implied lore we've gotten about Elune being created (or empowered, not sure which) by the world soul inside Azeroth. If they could unravel those lore myths and tell us objectively that Elune was not created by the Azeroth World Soul.....by all means, a mother daughter relationship is another one with love that is not a romantic love.
I honestly wonder how many times the blizzard writers look to Bellular's attempt to piece together their lackluster writing for direction that makes sense of where the story should go.
There is also a connection to either Elune or Aviana. If you look at Hannan’s eyes, one of them has the crescent moon with an orb at the center. The same symbol shown at the shrine of Aviana and some Elune symbology. This, amongst other things has be believing the Harronir derive from harpies. Tying Aviana to G’hinir, which Aluna’her was planted on Azeroth from a branch of G’hinir. It’s another Wild god influence upon the mortal races. Both the night elf’s and trolls owe their heritage to wild gods. Perhaps Aviana is the bridge between all of these races and for all of the elf focus coming up in midnight, perhaps the wild gods will also play a bigger part.
Wouldn't the logic be the other way around.....? As in, haranir don't come from harpies; both haranir and harpies come from something else, as a similar source..... namely, Cosmic Team Life.
what I still don't get is how Azeroth can turn magni into a dwarf again. Wasn't the curse of flesh made by the old gods? So she is just cursing him again? Or removing the diamond body makes him turn back to the curse?
I have an idea that Aman’Thul is the only pure order titan, and in the end with be the only one that adheres to his plan as the last Titan when they all turn on him. I’m probably way off though.
I think Michael should revisit the new Arathi codex talking about their view on the cosmic structure. He wrote it off entirely as if it was some kind of joke about Shadowlands. The concept it proposes about how cosmic powers and things are unstable while pure/individual is so key to seeing how beings like Eonar aren’t just Order, but Growth and Life. It’s such an important concept for unlocking the secrets of the WoW cosmos. Again, I hope he revisits it and gives it more consideration.
Surprised there’s no mention of the Deepgrove (more or less confirmed location of the next patch) which would back up a lot of what you’re saying. Site of roots/growth, campaign involving the Haranir, etc?
The cosmology (for lack of a better term) of Warcraft has been plainly expressed as relative--especially since the Legion expansion. We have been told (and shown) that the Light isn't necessarily good, and that the Shadow isn't necessarily evil. All that exists, i.e., what necessarily fills the vacuum created by the absence of an objective good, is a will to power (where have I heard that before....hmmm...). So, since Blizzard apparently wants to craft their world now as a morally relative one, there is no reason, outside of personal, selfish preservation including the preservation of one's family, friends, even tribe, to hold anyone's principles and ethics above anyone else's. Therefore, one is free to root for Xal'atath, the current "big bad", as one could admire her drive, consistency and style, whilst many of our legacy characters hover perpetually around self-doubt and sniveling contriteness. Personally, I am hoping that something bigger--a greater authority--than light, shadow, titans, etc. is yet to be revealed, however, if I was a betting man I would wager that won't happen. I fear that retail WoW has seriously painted itself into a corner.
They defeated a WATCHER, the servants of the keepers, not an actual keeper, and he was dragged away still alive. Keeper Archaedes gave them permission to do so.
Which leads to the very strong suspicion that Dornic and Galan were not doing what the Titans wanted at all. And rather, maybe they had been in league with Loken secretly betraying the Titans..... and Archaedas and Tyr were aware of that. Thus they promised the Earthen that they could get rid of Dornic and Galan and never be ruled by any such cruel watcher ever again.
I don't know how many Bellullar videos I've watched throughout the years, a lot, perhaps too many; and how many of those have turned out to be true? Not a single one I can remember. At this point, maybe let's just appreciate his wild theories for what essentially they are, fan fiction 😆
Interesting I was wondering what the roots where that where connected to seemingly nothing. Now it makes sense where the roots are from. Now only if we could figure out what the big blaring crystal in the roof is 🤔
I just don't agree that this is the location of the original world tree. The scale jut isn't right. The coreway is tiny compared to the size of the crater that I believe the original tree would have left. I am still going with Ungoro crater as the original world tree site.
The writing and objects in dragonflight do "NOT" show that Uldorus was the Titans interfering in any natural order. The exact opposite. The Uldorus facility was designed by Tyr specifically because there had been an "interference" and corruption by Yogg-Saron on the dragon eggs....which was allowed and arranged by Loken. Tyr designed Uldorus to cleanse away that corruption and return the dragons back to normal.
Which they literally then used to bind the dragons to the philosophies of the Titans. It’s in the same report about Uldorus that you’re referencing. Also, the corruption of Yogg in the water was investigated by Loken himself. The guy who was corrupted by Yogg-saron.
@@Pyromancer I would never say the corruption was "investigated" by Loken.... the lore book is a memo written by Tyr essentially being sarcastic to Loken who was his superior at the time; because he should have been responsible for stopping it. It was essentially like as if I wrote a memo to my supervisor at work about a task fixing a problem and I end the sentence with "of course you would look into this yourself if I hadn't done it, sir..." Where it is implied that Tyr started suspecting Loken being a traitor just before he told the dragon aspects that he was leaving them to deal with things. There was no binding to any philosophy that we have ever seen. Alexstrasza never says "I was forced to do blah blah" .....instead she says "I kind of felt like I might be punished if I didn't use the method to achieve the goal I agreed with" ....it was always methods, not goals. She agreed with the goals and principles and philosophies.
The harronir forcing me to go on a big quest for her to then act like we're the rude ones, meanwhile a Beledar soldier is dying of poison on the ground ten feet away and all she had to do was ask a snail to move.
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AH MY LEFT EAR WENT DEAF.. oh wait.
I feel this reply deeply!
My headphones sometimes play up. I spent way too long fiddling with the controller until I saw this comment =D.
My left ear actually went deaf earlier this year and some days later my right ear followed. After about two weeks I suddenly could hear again with both ears. The doctors still don't know what happened and it could happen again, so I had a real scare moment when that happened in the video.
I though that my phone speaker broke 😅
I only have my left in at work and was confused AF for a moment.
Best part about this expansion so far is all the side quests dedicated to explaining so many little stories of what’s going on , some are even like day in the life of these NPCs , definitely this expansions biggest strength so far
Still it's one of the worst expansions they released.
@@eddgrs9193 are you for real ? It’s the best Since Legion … what didnt you like so far ? (Real question because i Love it 😅)
@@eddgrs9193 You are either insane or trolling.
@@JavierBT90 Why not both? :)
@@nerrad650 it's just a troll.
I was saying this right from the start of the expansion! The Coreway immediately struck me as a medical stent. The Titans didn't heal whatever wound they caused here; they've kept it open, and put a bunch of titan-flavoured antibodies (the Earthen) to keep the site clean.
yup yup big agree
I also like the idea of The Waterworks as a name. Of course it's a place where the water is used to create energy. But the waterworks is also informally used to refer to crying.
Did anyone else do the quest involving Fearbeaker, the Bronzebeard hammer, in the Ringing Deeps? And we go into "The Living Grotto" and fight a Genesaur? Genesaurs, of course, are part of the Botani, the Life-aligned baddies of the Everbloom...
Why the heck was a Genesaur there?
I think there's a rhyme and a reason to why we've been doing the specific old dungeons in M+ the last couple of expansions. They're to remind us of specific parts of the lore that will play into the upcoming story. There's a few I can't quite explain to myself yet, though, but a lot of it is "Hey, remember this? You'll probably want a refresher, winkwink nudgenudge"
Reworked Uldaman should be pretty self-explanatory, as it was a major plot point in Dragonflight to get everything together. Further, Halls of Valor played into this, with our knowledge about Odyn gained from the books in new Uldaman.
Darkheart Thicket played specifically into the Emerald Dream stuff we got in Dragonflight, so that's likely already been "done." Similarly, Neltharion's Lair was related to both the Neltharion storylines going on as well as specifically Ebyssian. Probably "done."
The Everbloom is self-explanatory based on the above observation about the Fearbreaker line. Waycrest Manor gave us specifically the Drust, the other side of the Life-aligned baddies. Also, Mists of Tirna Scithe bring in the Drust, too... and what's going on with the Gorm, anyways?
Temple of the Jade Serpent was to remind us of the Sha, but specifically in terms of the Old Gods. Remix was Pandaria for similar reasons. They want us thinking about Y'shaarj. Additionally, Atal'Dazar brings in the Old Gods in the form of the blood of G'huun... why did Yazma specifically take the Spider Loa's powers, anyways? Also, The Underrot fits into this specific pile. Grim Batol brings back the Faceless Ones, who are Old God aligned... also, remember Iso'rath down the road from Grim Batol? Yeah, we never really resolved that thing, did we? I'm sure it's not relevant to the current story.
Throne of the Tides brought us the void Leviathans in the form of Ozumat. Also, hey, didn't we just get Siege of Boralus, which also has void Leviathans? And we're seeing them in Hallowfall?
The only ones I can't quite explain away right now are Court of Stars, Shadowmoon Burial Grounds, Freehold, Vortex Pinnacle, and Necrotic Wake. There's little things, but it's a lot less obvious.
I'm fully expecting the story to shift HEAVILY away from just "The Void" as we go into 11.1-11.2, drifting more into "Life can be bad guys too" and "Btw what the heck has Tyr been up to?" The latter I'm expecting to transition into "Btw what the heck has Y'rel been up to- oh, that's not good, Y'rel..." which would then segue into the Light vs Void expansion story beats.
If i'm not mistaken, i recall reading somewhere that Genesaurs are a worlds primal defenders? We even have those big burly dudes in ahz-kahet. Might have been a Bellular video, but in either case they were implied to be primal defenders of a world, just a 'natural occurance' so to speak, but with the old Gods and the Titans interfering with Azeroth, they'd have likely been expunged and seen as hostile and unimportant to the world at large (and the factions goals)
The current 'ascended nerubians' story, the Skardyn in the ringing deeps and the story of the nightborne in the court of stars are all narrative echoes of the orcs consuming demon blood. Perhaps this implies that the powers that be are going to become even more aggressive in their attempts to convert the mortals of azeroth into their preferred flavour of energy, as it seems likely that we'll end up fighting enemy lightforged, titanforged, void mutants and so on in the future.
Shadowmoon burial grounds' final boss battle depicts an alternate version of a famous warlock/necromancer character in Ner'zhul, but in that timeline he became a void worshipper and attempted to summon the dark star, a void Naaru, which is fairly similar aesthetically to the ritual Xalatath is attempting to perform in hallowfall. Which makes perfect sense as Beledar is pretty blatantly some kind of Naaru-adjacent being's core. Perhaps this manipulation of Ner'zhul was also a call-forward to Xal's attempts to convert Alleria to void worship.
Freehold (as well as plenty of the items we've seen in the trading post) seemed like more of a tie-in with Plunderstorm.
I don't really have any ideas for Vortex Pinnacle. Maybe just to remind us about the elemental planes, which link in with the backstory of the primal drakes and particularly Razageth.
Necrotic Wake might be there to serve as a reminder of the questline in Maldraxxus in which we learned that 'necromancy' is not a specifically death-alligned form of magic, and that any of them can theoretically be used to create undead, as we've seen with Calia Menethil and in the Priory of the Sacred Flame. I wouldn't be surprised if we start encountering undead of the other types as the story continues.
I bet the Genesaur was there because his prison imploded. Not sure how he flushed himself down, lol.
They just pick ones that are or were very popular or had specific mechanics for gameplay.
@@jamesfoster7854 Grim Batol and Necrotic Wake have some of the most notoriously negative reputations in WoW dungeon history. I very much doubt they are making these choices based on popularity.
I have to think that there’s two things growing in tandem right now in Ahz’kahet; the roots of the old world tree, and the remains of Y’shaarj (maybe N’Zoth).
Then with Beledar it screams Naaru and goat people that tend to crash into planets. The Army of Light and Arathi just way to closely resemble each other, one just had direct contact with a Prime Naaru. That would be very full circle for Alleria and would explain why she’s seemingly so pivotal for whatever is going on.
it's 100% Nzoth you can get a candle via jankies quest which is made of the black blood when you light it a nzoth eye shows up.
@@RyuLightorb Personally I think it's likely to be a hybridized being containing parts of all of the slain old gods, with the energy Xal took from N'zoth when she was used in dagger form to slay him at it's core. Many of the void creatures in Ahz'kahet even look exactly like G'huun, who wasn't even a 'true' Old god, but whose death might have caused it's energy to sink into the earth in the same way that all of the real old gods' essences did.
Considering that old gods are essentially just tools of war for the real denizens of the void, recycling their parts in this way seems like a very sensible way to make the best of a bad situation.
i think the titans have something to do with beledar and they are hiding it
“Her heart is a crater and we have filled it”
Romantic.
I love theorising about the WoW lore and this expansion has been great for that. I've spent hours and hours just exploring and piecing things together and have noticed everything you mentioned in the video. There's also a lot of under sea flora and coral elementals on the way down to Azj-Kahet but confined to just one or two of the layers before it turns into Azj-Kahet proper as you fly down. That coupled with the leaked "Rootlands" map, tells me we will have an area dedicated to the roots, the Haranir and I've got a feeling we'll be dealing with Goblins a lot, maybe alongside another group, as we help the Haranir defend the Roots. Which would link to the speculated/datamined Goblin Raid. The black blood is corrupting life, the world and the roots. The Haranir want to defend them. The Goblins want to profit and use it. Just like they did with Azerite. (I've got a lot of other theories and have posted about them online but I'll leave it at that for now.)
2:05 my left ear is feeling lonely
good to know it isnt just me lol
I went to check if my earpod went out lol
Yep lol
THANK YOU. I feel like I have experienced weird audio shifts to a single channel for short durations of time in a few Bellular videos recently, though didn't take the time to comment. It's kind of pseudo-painful when it happens too. 😕
You took a lot of little seemingly insignificant things and threaded them together in a way that helps us understand their connection. Bravo, great video.
Got me looking around and noticed those suspicious River Drifter "critters" in the waters of Camp Or'lay level 80 with 600k hp :P
"Deeper, deeper its roots will reach. Welcoming our embrace."
Oh come on! if you haven't guessed it by now...Azeroth, and Elune (and I highly suspect Eonar) are *NOT* "Titans" Gods of Order. They are *LIFE* Goddesses. The Highest beings of Life. Don't believe me let's see...(Why is Eonar the *ONLY* Female "titan"? Why is Nature always referred to as "She"? Why is Elune a "Mother Moon" or the Goddess? Now if you are following me here...Magni when referencing Azeroth always calls Azeroth what? *SHE!* Azeroth is a Life Goddess. Now if we know that then we begin to understand why the "Old Gods were attracted to Azeroth, why the Burning Legion waged a war over her, why Elune circled her, nurturing her, why the Na'ru fled to her, and why Amun'thul seeks to bring her under his command. Life requires a balance of *Everything* not just to survive but to *thrive.* It needs Light and Void, Order and Chaos, Life and Death all in equal measure. Order however does not; so Aman'thul Ripped out both Y'Shaarj and Elun'Ahir. Order at the end of the day does not favor competition. It favors obedience. Now let's ask ourselves; what does favor competition? OH RIGHT! *LIFE!* Nature *thrives* on competition; so much so that it is the driving force of Nature Herself. Now ask yourself the biggest question...Where did the Void Lords, Titans, Na'ru, and Elune (if my theory is correct) come from? They are the "world souls" born from a "high concentration" of Cosmological Energies existent whilst they are forming. Aman'thul either "knows" this or has surmised as such and seeks to make *ALL* world souls "Titans." (His plan being to flood Azeroth with Arcane energy thus creating another Titan instead of A Life Goddess.) That all said...what None of them suspect, neither Void Lords, Na'ru, or Titans; is they are all being played by Elune. All of this competition, all of this tumult and change, *ALL* of this is doing *Exactly* what Elune wanted. Shaping Azeroth to become a Life Goddess. A Mother of Mothers. A Goddess of Life itself. Because as we learned from the Shadowlands if you played in Ardenweald Nature exists on Balance and Cycles. There is only ever *ONE* supreme Life Goddess. (Eonar being corrupted by Aman'thul's Arcane Energies. Not enough to make her "fully" a Titan but enough to tip the scales as it were.) So as Elune wanes Azeroth waxes. As Yesera said to Merithra...(ok so this is going to be the vibe of it...) "I will diminish as you shine." Elune is diminishing, and Azeroth is begining to "shine". They are completing the Cycle of Life.
Great stuff
The way he pronounced Archaedas wounded my soul.
Meh you're not the prime world soul so nobody cares
With many eyes, they will see again. They will drink, and be uplifted.
Deeper, deeper its roots will reach. Welcoming our embrace.
Her dreams sing beneath the surface. Our dreams. Our song.
Good job, man.....some A+++ exploring!
"Waterworks" is also slang for crying. "Uh-oh, someone really turned on the waterworks..."
Also what I thought. Not a water treatment place, but her tears
Just noticing how there's the leviathans and old god blood (the Black Blood) that's near where Elun'Ahir is. And how in some way, the effects wrought by the Void (like the Curse of Flesh) is kinda 'Life' domain like at points (arguably we have 3-4 races naturally occurring from Old God's biomass, and the rest are Titanforged made alive via the Curse, all this 'life' stemmed from the Old Gods)... And now just this ominousness surrounding the yet another hole left in Azeroth where Elun'Ahir is. I'm not going to be surprised if it's revealed that Elune is indeed more aligned or some being originally from the Void. Heck you can even think of how she's the Moon goddess being a metaphor for how people mistake moonlight as being directly from the moon, but the moon actually doesn't produce its own light, it just reflects it. And then there's the common adage of how the full moon makes people go more wild.
Plus if her Old God body is actually in the moon orbiting Azeroth maybe that's why she became different.
Anyway I'm thinking that along with showing how 'normal' even the Old God derived aqiri based races can become (despite descending from chaos gods' biomass, they all naturally became eusocial insectoids - the most orderly kind of animal IRL), and possibly with showing how Lionel 'evolved', it definitely feels there's going to be a reveal that the whole idea of Light = good and Void = bad is going to be turned on its head as a major plotpoint. Kinda like in Ori and the Blind Forest, where there are shadow creatures and light creatures, and the blinding light burned out innocent baby owls and sent their mother into despair and becoming the big bad. I think the reveal is that creatures of LIght and creatures of Void are just that - they're just different forms of life and can coexist when there aren't Lovecraftian monsters or giant planet people ripping out and leaving holes in the planet crust...
This is so cool. Warcraft would never do it.
What taking that Coreway side shaft, you may notice that it loops back to a lower section of the Coreway right before opening to the Ringing Deeps. That section is full of debris and wreckage that make it look like the perfect place to connect new zones in later patches.
I’m pretty sure that the next zone we visit in TWW will not just be a “goblin zone” a la Mechagon like people are speculating, but an underground jungle a la Land of the Lost that mirrors Scholozar and Un’goro, and that Undermine will simply be a raid within it.
The raid will probably involve us teaming up with the haronir to stop the Venture Company who is harvesting the roots as a replacement for the depleted kajamite, both of which probably draw from Eonar’s life magic.
Yeah there is definitely infighting with the keepers here too. If you make an earthen it gives a bit more backstory on the freysworn. There is like a robot that you can learn about the different edicts and it seems that either from the keepers or the titans themselves they didn't want freysworn to expand. They worked for life which is chaos and so keepers wiped the memory of freysworn to bring them to a difficult edict such as building dornigol and the coreway with the stonewards. So even though Eonar never told Amanthul about the roots. The freysworn were meant to be wiped out.
That vertical tunnel within the roots could become a path to a new zone in a future patch.
Also, we have not seen the bottom of azj'kahet, or the bottom of caverns underneath azj'kahet. I wonder if we ever will.
"ya'shaarch." "faysworn". "archidaeas". pronounciation: michael's biggest enemy...
Let's not forget the years of calling Nozdormu "Norzdumu".
Yeah they are sworn to Freya, Freysworn.
@@Lockecole81 Yes but I think the point being made was that at points he was pronouncing it ‘feysworn’.
@@ArcadeStunfisk yep, I kept wondering if I was hearing it right.
Betting money the Roots are the location of the next zone.....
Interesting
Deepgrove so yes :)
@@ArcadeStunfiskHas that been confirmed or is it just speculation?
aren't the roots in the nerubian zone currently?
@@ArcadeStunfiski thought Rootlands sounds cooler
Was it something to the effect of "Beware the Vassal of Life, Treachery lurks behind the Eyes of Green?"
I guess I'd like a little more explanation as to what life magic actually is. Light magic heals living things, the void take the shape of fleshy living monsters, who are somehow afraid of death. The titans themselves are alive, and Eonar fills the role in the pantheon associated with life magic, but Aman'thul forsakes her life magic because it is too chaotic. What exactly is going on here?
That Green Spot is the Rootlands Entrance and a Slipstream will open.
Earthen Druids please!
I demand a Stoney bear form! Wait.
Would that make the earthen like... Transformers?
@@DizzyRotBrain Imagine the new manbearpig form but stoney. That would be badass
Those dragonflight water works look just like where we fought Immerseus in Siege of Orgrimmar. Hmmm.
"The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green."
Ooooh! I’ve been wondering about this one since it came out!
Ajhkahet has another cosmic link - you get sent to another respawn point if you fly into the void sky above the city - entirely different from the boot you get for flying into the palace area.
Very interesting. Thanks for making this video
Infusing the water is also a real life thing. Games and movies often show more than one might think.
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Think of Beledar. Where on the surface did Beledar impact?
The Isle of Dorne is near Southern Kalimdor. What's in Southern Kalimdor?
An impact crater.
Did Beledar make Ungoro crater?
@@tacticalgoatman No, Un'goro crater was formed from an old volcano. Same as the Ngorongoro crater in our real world africa..... which was the inspiration for the blizzard developers to make Un'goro.
What if it
Those roots are definitely those of Elun'ahir, and a a small group of Earthen know the secret.
I think the reason there is a long tunnel is that the game needs a long tunnel to give the impression of seamless loading between the zones
OH MY LEFT EAR GONE.... and now it's back
Something that would be interesting to speculate on is the origin of the black blood. We are quite far from other locations of the known old gods. Is it blood from Xal herself as she must have “died” someplace if she was an old-god like entity at some point?
Some mistakes here. There's optional dialogue early on that speaks about Dornogal's age. It's old, but not as old as the other Titan machinery. It's a city that was built up later, around the Coreway. Yeah, the roots mean Elun'ahir was likely here. And that likely explains why the Coreway was built here after the tree was torn out, and why it was important to Freya. But the Earthen would not have been here during the time of the tree, before the Titans brought them here for the Coreway project. Nor do these Freysworn claim that.
Sidestories have been top notch this expansion.
I made this same flight. And there is another above the old sacrifice pits that does the same.
im sorry, but i gotta interrupt 12:45 ... the same thing happens if you fly all the way up above the big nerubian city, but with purple overtaking you. could just be game mechanic matching the color of mist that an art dev put there to keep you from goin up there for whatever reason.
Void things are always the best.
Bro fuckin' COOKED
I'm SO excited over this lore!!
I'd bet my Ashes that the Harronir will be a playable race.
What if beledar is being used to plug the actual hole of the tree? Can't have the sea drain into those underground caverns. We can however have a giant ordered crystal plugging that hole.
It's very interesting to me that the Void is SO strongly associated with water. I guess it only makes sense but it makes you think, does the void just naturally take shape in deep dark places on Azeroth?
The book we find in the emerald dream does "NOT" tell us that Eonar and Elune were romantic lovers. It says they had a love between them. Same as sisters can, and friends can, and members of a team can. All of which Elune and Eonar could have been. Sisters. Friends. Team members.
Mother and daughter, even.
@@Pyromancer While in abstract, that could be a fourth option......I tend to doubt it given the implied lore we've gotten about Elune being created (or empowered, not sure which) by the world soul inside Azeroth. If they could unravel those lore myths and tell us objectively that Elune was not created by the Azeroth World Soul.....by all means, a mother daughter relationship is another one with love that is not a romantic love.
Ah yes, they were "roommates".
Summer child...
People these days don't understand the nuance of a platonic friendship. If two people of the same sex are really close they have to be gay.
Im sorry but i have to be that guy. they are called fReysworn as in sworn to FREYA, they have nothing to do with FEY
I honestly wonder how many times the blizzard writers look to Bellular's attempt to piece together their lackluster writing for direction that makes sense of where the story should go.
They're Freysworn, not Feysworn.
Easy to misread but kept bugging me through the video.
theres a door opposite of the entrance to the ringing deep in the coreway. im guessing its going to be used at some point this expansion.
There is also a connection to either Elune or Aviana. If you look at Hannan’s eyes, one of them has the crescent moon with an orb at the center. The same symbol shown at the shrine of Aviana and some Elune symbology. This, amongst other things has be believing the Harronir derive from harpies. Tying Aviana to G’hinir, which Aluna’her was planted on Azeroth from a branch of G’hinir. It’s another Wild god influence upon the mortal races. Both the night elf’s and trolls owe their heritage to wild gods. Perhaps Aviana is the bridge between all of these races and for all of the elf focus coming up in midnight, perhaps the wild gods will also play a bigger part.
Wouldn't the logic be the other way around.....? As in, haranir don't come from harpies; both haranir and harpies come from something else, as a similar source..... namely, Cosmic Team Life.
We really could get a 7 way battle royale, featuring all major cosmological factions, plus us just wanting to survive.
does that big dangly crystal kinda look like a sheath or scar tissue around Sargeras's sword?
What is that addon you are using for your quest box?
Please I'm looking for this too!
We’re the immune system rushing to a wound we never knew was there
You gotta pay the troll toll if you want this World's Soul!
what I still don't get is how Azeroth can turn magni into a dwarf again. Wasn't the curse of flesh made by the old gods? So she is just cursing him again? Or removing the diamond body makes him turn back to the curse?
People think I'm a nerd. I watch this video and I know I am with my people here lol
I love how it all clicked 10 separatel times.
Also, what is that leviathan that, instead of retreating, flies near Beledar? The one named "The Guardian"
Wait, where do you get the idea that the Hungering Pool (you said Pit) is "very close" to the Waterworks? They're nowhere near each other.
the water works are nowhere near the hungering pit, otherwise known as "the sink hole"
I think Eonar is not strictly order. I think she's a combo type like Azeroth
I have an idea that Aman’Thul is the only pure order titan, and in the end with be the only one that adheres to his plan as the last Titan when they all turn on him. I’m probably way off though.
@@DizzyRotBrain oh that's an interpretation I hadn't even considered! Love it!
I think Michael should revisit the new Arathi codex talking about their view on the cosmic structure. He wrote it off entirely as if it was some kind of joke about Shadowlands. The concept it proposes about how cosmic powers and things are unstable while pure/individual is so key to seeing how beings like Eonar aren’t just Order, but Growth and Life. It’s such an important concept for unlocking the secrets of the WoW cosmos. Again, I hope he revisits it and gives it more consideration.
@@DizzyRotBrainI think Norgannon would be quite interesting to you.
"Her heart is a crater, and we have filled it."
Or.. It's surface blazes bright masking shadows below.. Also: The vassal of life disguises treachery. Beware the eyes of green.
The debris in the coreway came from above. There isnt a lower level to the coreway
Surprised there’s no mention of the Deepgrove (more or less confirmed location of the next patch) which would back up a lot of what you’re saying. Site of roots/growth, campaign involving the Haranir, etc?
The cosmology (for lack of a better term) of Warcraft has been plainly expressed as relative--especially since the Legion expansion. We have been told (and shown) that the Light isn't necessarily good, and that the Shadow isn't necessarily evil. All that exists, i.e., what necessarily fills the vacuum created by the absence of an objective good, is a will to power (where have I heard that before....hmmm...). So, since Blizzard apparently wants to craft their world now as a morally relative one, there is no reason, outside of personal, selfish preservation including the preservation of one's family, friends, even tribe, to hold anyone's principles and ethics above anyone else's. Therefore, one is free to root for Xal'atath, the current "big bad", as one could admire her drive, consistency and style, whilst many of our legacy characters hover perpetually around self-doubt and sniveling contriteness. Personally, I am hoping that something bigger--a greater authority--than light, shadow, titans, etc. is yet to be revealed, however, if I was a betting man I would wager that won't happen. I fear that retail WoW has seriously painted itself into a corner.
I see Dwarven Druids on the Horrizon.
So we are all on a giant Death Star with a small weak point, cool
Never snapped to the comments quicker than when I though my left ear shut off!
Could be this harronir the breach the void made into Life forces? There was a whisper about green eyes...
They defeated a WATCHER, the servants of the keepers, not an actual keeper, and he was dragged away still alive. Keeper Archaedes gave them permission to do so.
Which leads to the very strong suspicion that Dornic and Galan were not doing what the Titans wanted at all. And rather, maybe they had been in league with Loken secretly betraying the Titans..... and Archaedas and Tyr were aware of that. Thus they promised the Earthen that they could get rid of Dornic and Galan and never be ruled by any such cruel watcher ever again.
the eyes of green wisper probably refers to moira.
I don't know how many Bellullar videos I've watched throughout the years, a lot, perhaps too many; and how many of those have turned out to be true? Not a single one I can remember.
At this point, maybe let's just appreciate his wild theories for what essentially they are, fan fiction 😆
Interesting I was wondering what the roots where that where connected to seemingly nothing. Now it makes sense where the roots are from. Now only if we could figure out what the big blaring crystal in the roof is 🤔
So will deeper levels down the Coreway be patch content, or will part of Midnight also be set there?
I've been wondering that as well since Earthen keep saying it'll take years to fix the coreway...I hope it doesn't
Hello bots! *throws EMP*
I want a pork bun now :(
Had to pause the vid... what is that quest text addon, love the way it looks!
Dialogue UI
@@wowguy1243 Thank you!!
1:10 is that quest page an addon or is that how they look now? Ive been using immersion for so long now
Addon
DialogUi
What quest interface mod is that?
Exactly how many times does it just click :D
for a sec i thought my bluetooth cheap heads plugged in :/
What's the quest UI / addon @1:16?
The fact that The War Within looks EXACTLY LIKE DRAGONFLIGHT......Just reskinned.....
Whaddya mean 'finally'? It's made as much sense as any Warcraft story has from the beginning.
I just don't agree that this is the location of the original world tree. The scale jut isn't right. The coreway is tiny compared to the size of the crater that I believe the original tree would have left. I am still going with Ungoro crater as the original world tree site.
Is that the fleshpit that bellular and matt have talked about on stream?
Hey what addon makes his quests look like that sheet of paper?
Dialogue UI
Anyone knows what's the addons name at 1:10?
The writing and objects in dragonflight do "NOT" show that Uldorus was the Titans interfering in any natural order. The exact opposite. The Uldorus facility was designed by Tyr specifically because there had been an "interference" and corruption by Yogg-Saron on the dragon eggs....which was allowed and arranged by Loken. Tyr designed Uldorus to cleanse away that corruption and return the dragons back to normal.
Which they literally then used to bind the dragons to the philosophies of the Titans. It’s in the same report about Uldorus that you’re referencing. Also, the corruption of Yogg in the water was investigated by Loken himself. The guy who was corrupted by Yogg-saron.
@@Pyromancer I would never say the corruption was "investigated" by Loken.... the lore book is a memo written by Tyr essentially being sarcastic to Loken who was his superior at the time; because he should have been responsible for stopping it. It was essentially like as if I wrote a memo to my supervisor at work about a task fixing a problem and I end the sentence with "of course you would look into this yourself if I hadn't done it, sir..."
Where it is implied that Tyr started suspecting Loken being a traitor just before he told the dragon aspects that he was leaving them to deal with things.
There was no binding to any philosophy that we have ever seen. Alexstrasza never says "I was forced to do blah blah" .....instead she says "I kind of felt like I might be punished if I didn't use the method to achieve the goal I agreed with" ....it was always methods, not goals. She agreed with the goals and principles and philosophies.
@@laertesindeed Good points!
wasnt there more to the swords involvement though?
13:46 that camp is lamee, I tried to get the snail to move using one of the options and game forced me to say some gibberish instead
The harronir forcing me to go on a big quest for her to then act like we're the rude ones, meanwhile a Beledar soldier is dying of poison on the ground ten feet away and all she had to do was ask a snail to move.
Or you could just talk to the NPC outside of the herbology trainer. I believe she directs you to find her fellows outside the city to learn more.
what mod do you use to make yoru quest log look like that
The eyes of green u mean ! :P