Old Growth's actually produces more lumber. Crazy fact. Paradise fire victims would of had 20 minutes more time to flee if a near by section of Forest land had not been thinned. Old Growth tree's are key to healthy forest's. They are very resilient in regards to forest fires.
@Free HongKong Yep. We are at a point in time where people only want to believe what they hear in a hip hop track or what someone stoned out of their minds in rambling about at a party or protest. People right now are viewing truth as illogical because it doesn't comport to their narrative and they are too lazy to put the actual work in to understand the science. It is very sad. I have attended multiple environmental and forestry conferences where actual scientists are being boo'd by activists sprinkled in the crowd because the science doesn't align with their political narrative. When you press the activists why they believe the scientists are wrong they can't answer and resort to name calling.
@Free HongKong To summarize: Pro's: Easy and efficient, compared to other methods of harvesting wood. A large amount of wood can be processed on a small area. No concerns for damaging of remaining trees (easier felling). Little preparation needed (marking the site/trees to be felled). Creates habitat for species depending on light and warmth/humidity/wind other environmental factors which can be lacking in a dense forest. Provides suitable conditions for early-succession tree-species (which can cope with/ prefer this environment to). Next generation of the forest will be relatively uniform. Making work easier and supplying more uniform timber. Con's : Destroy's the forest environment which was there. Forest succession is essentially reset to zero. Site becomes unsuitable for species dependent on forests for at least the next (few) decade(s). To approach the natural values the forest previously had you'll have to wait a hundred/hundreds of years depending on it's initial state and surroundings. After the clearcut the site has to be prepared for the next generation to naturally regenerate or new trees should be planted. This is expensive. After the clearcut the soil will lose part of it's humus layer and topsoil due to mineralization. With no vegetation to take up the minerals, these will be lost. Because of this soil development is halted and partly reversed. It will restore slowly after the forest returns. Often the soil is also damaged by the heavy machinery used. Air pockets in the soil get compressed, which takes decades to restore naturally. Obviously heavy machinery is required to minimze costs, but the area of soil compression can be minimized. With clearcuts you can drive everywhere, which can be appealing. Site becomes unsuitable for tree species of later succesion. Trees which require a forest climate will not grow/germinate in large open spaces. Young trees which could have become valuable trees later on are lost too. Dead wood is an essential part of the forest ecosystem. Which will be gone afterwards. It will take decades before trees are big enough to supply large diameter dead wood. academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/62/7/633/243304 www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/21749 environmentalevidencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13750-018-0138-y bioone.org/journals/ambio-a-journal-of-the-human-environment/volume-38/issue-6/08-A-490.1/Forest-Management-and-Biodiversity-Conservation-Based-on-Natural-Ecosystem-Dynamics/10.1579/08-A-490.1.short onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.2307/3237275 www.nature.com/articles/s41558-020-0738-8.epdf?author_access_token=poj3Fn4fkhP7_SK-yFKaTNRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0OGVcM5jAVKvW5GyId6F2q0ve6uY5HlQ2nGzEyTtPTSUIuTOykc5x3bM9HdnsqyTZdAL_YY02dyngC4HUYA6LeqaLA-r26jCXCx1eABw5d_FQ%3D%3D assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882222/The_Economics_of_Biodiversity_The_Dasgupta_Review_Interim_Report.pdf sierraclub.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019-Clearcut-Carbon-report.pdf www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4552712/ globalnews.ca/news/6299545/bc-clearcutting-forests-climate-change/ www.nrdc.org/experts/josh-axelrod/canadas-boreal-clearcutting-climate-threat
@Free HongKong Do you know how to use respectful language or do they not teach that anymore? The professor in your video confirms what I'm saying... Late successional stages have MORE species biodiversity than early or mid stage. Done!
The cons are not made up.. Do more research. I'm not saying disturbance is bad. On the contrary, I encourage proper logging and forest management. The point is that it takes a long time to reach the mature forest stage after the disturbance. This is why the rate of clear cutting must be slow enough to match the rate of regeneration. It's simple math..
I understand what they feel but without timber farming and clear cutting how are we going to use wood as a renewable resource we need balance not one over the other
"they swarmed the forest and left farmland in their wake" always the modern environmentalist comparing humans and development to a locust. You people are delusional.
Old Growth's actually produces more lumber. Crazy fact. Paradise fire victims would of had 20 minutes more time to flee if a near by section of Forest land had not been thinned. Old Growth tree's are key to healthy forest's. They are very resilient in regards to forest fires.
@Free HongKong Feel free to share your source for these crazy facts that come across as completely illogical.
@Free HongKong Yep. We are at a point in time where people only want to believe what they hear in a hip hop track or what someone stoned out of their minds in rambling about at a party or protest. People right now are viewing truth as illogical because it doesn't comport to their narrative and they are too lazy to put the actual work in to understand the science. It is very sad. I have attended multiple environmental and forestry conferences where actual scientists are being boo'd by activists sprinkled in the crowd because the science doesn't align with their political narrative. When you press the activists why they believe the scientists are wrong they can't answer and resort to name calling.
@Free HongKong
To summarize:
Pro's:
Easy and efficient, compared to other methods of harvesting wood. A large amount of wood can be processed on a small area. No concerns for damaging of remaining trees (easier felling). Little preparation needed (marking the site/trees to be felled).
Creates habitat for species depending on light and warmth/humidity/wind other environmental factors which can be lacking in a dense forest.
Provides suitable conditions for early-succession tree-species (which can cope with/ prefer this environment to).
Next generation of the forest will be relatively uniform. Making work easier and supplying more uniform timber.
Con's
:
Destroy's the forest environment which was there. Forest succession is essentially reset to zero. Site becomes unsuitable for species dependent on forests for at least the next (few) decade(s). To approach the natural values the forest previously had you'll have to wait a hundred/hundreds of years depending on it's initial state and surroundings.
After the clearcut the site has to be prepared for the next generation to naturally regenerate or new trees should be planted. This is expensive.
After the clearcut the soil will lose part of it's humus layer and topsoil due to mineralization. With no vegetation to take up the minerals, these will be lost. Because of this soil development is halted and partly reversed. It will restore slowly after the forest returns. Often the soil is also damaged by the heavy machinery used. Air pockets in the soil get compressed, which takes decades to restore naturally. Obviously heavy machinery is required to minimze costs, but the area of soil compression can be minimized. With clearcuts you can drive everywhere, which can be appealing.
Site becomes unsuitable for tree species of later succesion. Trees which require a forest climate will not grow/germinate in large open spaces.
Young trees which could have become valuable trees later on are lost too.
Dead wood is an essential part of the forest ecosystem. Which will be gone afterwards. It will take decades before trees are big enough to supply large diameter dead wood.
academic.oup.com/bioscience/article/62/7/633/243304
www.srs.fs.usda.gov/pubs/21749
environmentalevidencejournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13750-018-0138-y
bioone.org/journals/ambio-a-journal-of-the-human-environment/volume-38/issue-6/08-A-490.1/Forest-Management-and-Biodiversity-Conservation-Based-on-Natural-Ecosystem-Dynamics/10.1579/08-A-490.1.short
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.2307/3237275
www.nature.com/articles/s41558-020-0738-8.epdf?author_access_token=poj3Fn4fkhP7_SK-yFKaTNRgN0jAjWel9jnR3ZoTv0OGVcM5jAVKvW5GyId6F2q0ve6uY5HlQ2nGzEyTtPTSUIuTOykc5x3bM9HdnsqyTZdAL_YY02dyngC4HUYA6LeqaLA-r26jCXCx1eABw5d_FQ%3D%3D
assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/882222/The_Economics_of_Biodiversity_The_Dasgupta_Review_Interim_Report.pdf
sierraclub.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2019-Clearcut-Carbon-report.pdf
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4552712/
globalnews.ca/news/6299545/bc-clearcutting-forests-climate-change/
www.nrdc.org/experts/josh-axelrod/canadas-boreal-clearcutting-climate-threat
@Free HongKong Do you know how to use respectful language or do they not teach that anymore?
The professor in your video confirms what I'm saying... Late successional stages have MORE species biodiversity than early or mid stage. Done!
The cons are not made up.. Do more research. I'm not saying disturbance is bad. On the contrary, I encourage proper logging and forest management. The point is that it takes a long time to reach the mature forest stage after the disturbance. This is why the rate of clear cutting must be slow enough to match the rate of regeneration. It's simple math..
I understand what they feel but without timber farming and clear cutting how are we going to use wood as a renewable resource we need balance not one over the other
I agree we need to protect the old growth we have left but we need to log and the only way to not kill old growth is timber farming
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"they swarmed the forest and left farmland in their wake" always the modern environmentalist comparing humans and development to a locust. You people are delusional.