My recommendation for long distances (>500km) with the e-Golf: Draft behind a truck with 90km/h. Then the consumption is below 110Wh/km ... enables you for stints up to 230-250km. With this strategy you can go on a 600-700km trip wirhout rapidgate (cooking the battery). Below 100km/h driving speed the battery is cooling down, above 100km/h the battery is heating up. I did 3000km with the e-Golf during the last 2 weeks. Avg consumption: 103Wh/km. 😎
@@SirHackaL0t. ... the e-Golf was never meant to be a long distance car. But if you need to go on long distances, want to avoid rapidgate and be nice to the battery ... then this is the way to drive. In my case, I don't need to go on long trips anymore ... but when it happens (only 2-3x per year) this is acceptable for me. On the other hand (95% of all driving), the Golf is the perfect "every day car" and does not waste energy for heating or cooling the battery. This is not needed at 95% of my driving. Saves a lot of money + I did only pay 19,5k Euro for an almost fully packed brand new e-Golf. 😎 If I needed to go on long distances more frequently, I would not use an e-Golf.
Two suggestions for further improvement: 1.) Refine your table with two new columns under each speed so you get one for what the car shows, one for the real consumption and one for the diffence between real life and what the car wants you make to believe. For example both Ioniq and eGolf charged 7,3 kWh for the same trip (59,9 km) at 90 km/h so the consumption was 122 Wh/km for each: Wh/km 90 km/h Car shows | Real Consumption | Deviation Hyundai Ioniq: 104 | 122 | 17,3 % VW eGolf: 116 | 122 | 5,2 % 2.) Please use km/h (with the slash) in your table. ;-)
The amount of electricity presented to the car isn’t the same as the amount of electricity added to the battery. The car will use some of that keeping the car cool etc.
@@SirHackaL0t. True, but: 1.) Regardless of such (more or less irrelevant) "losses" the amount of electricity shown at a calibrated charger is still more valid than something shown in an instrument cluster of a BEV (especially if the car is from certain manufacturers). 2.) And much more important: the amount of electricity shown at the charger is the amount one has to pay for.
the car is good for long distances if you are aware of limits: 120 km / h and you'll get 200km then you can charge fast for another 200 km. 5,25 hours and 400 km per day is the limit. Works fine as long you have a 2nd car ... if you are in need for more range.
I'm considering an e-Golf for 6 months to a year from the time my 530e lease runs out until the VW Buzz is available in the States. Would it be practical to expect to get 160km on a highway/autobahn type of road trip? I live in the States and that's about my highway comfort zone. I looked at your spreadsheet and it looks like 160km is practical with almost a full charge.
@@BatteryLife what are you talking about? I drive 165km every day (autobahn), and never had a problem. Summer, winter (i dont have a heat pump, i preheat the car and then use heated seats), i never came even close to a problem. Usually i drive 100km/h
At 90 km/h the energy consumption is less than the e-Up and not much more than Ioniq. 🙂 At 130 km/h the energy consumption is much higher than Ioniq 🤐. The slow charging rate is horrible 😞.
Hey, i just bought an egolf 2018. And when i go 110 km/h it just drains my battery. Must more then you did on 130km/h. How is this happening? 🤔 what kan make this happen? Is it becouse i use the Apple play and AC?
@@BatteryLife I do know what you like - driving in B - but D is what VW did in the default, and I think that it would be slightly better efficiency. You can coast in many situations, that you wouldn't expect to be able to coast, and you accelerate less.
Ich war kurz davor nen e-Golf zu bestellen. In sich ein gutes Auto. Als e-Auto aber schlecht wie man in dem Video sehen kann. Und vor allem aus diesem Grund habe ich ihn doch nicht gekauft. Ein Auto für Menschen, die keine Pläne haben und denen egal ist, wann sie am Zeil ankommen...
Don’t buy this car. There are a lot better BEVs out there that deserve your money. Get a Kona, a e-niro, a Model 3. Anything but this (other than the Mercedes B class that can’t even rapid charge)
@@SirHackaL0t. I haven't known anyone who has had a positive experience with a Hyundai or Kia without frequent dealer visits for warranty repairs, and I don't like the Model 3 interior or the frequent issues that I have heard about. The e-Golf is perfect for some people, including myself. Especially as a second car, like it is for me. There are better BEVs by some accounts, but for my use case the e-Golf is best and it's a shame to see people disregard it entirely just because it doesn't match what they need in a car.
Myles Vance You seem to have disregarded the Model 3 in the same way. I’m not sure how that’s any different. Maybe try the Rover MG instead. By all accounts a great cheap EV.
My recommendation for long distances (>500km) with the e-Golf:
Draft behind a truck with 90km/h. Then the consumption is below 110Wh/km ... enables you for stints up to 230-250km. With this strategy you can go on a 600-700km trip wirhout rapidgate (cooking the battery).
Below 100km/h driving speed the battery is cooling down, above 100km/h the battery is heating up.
I did 3000km with the e-Golf during the last 2 weeks. Avg consumption: 103Wh/km. 😎
I don't understand, you hid behind a truck to decrease drag?
Those numbers are fantastic but I’m not sure I want to spend my time hiding behind a lorry going that slowly. :)
@@SirHackaL0t. ... the e-Golf was never meant to be a long distance car. But if you need to go on long distances, want to avoid rapidgate and be nice to the battery ... then this is the way to drive.
In my case, I don't need to go on long trips anymore ... but when it happens (only 2-3x per year) this is acceptable for me.
On the other hand (95% of all driving), the Golf is the perfect "every day car" and does not waste energy for heating or cooling the battery. This is not needed at 95% of my driving. Saves a lot of money + I did only pay 19,5k Euro for an almost fully packed brand new e-Golf. 😎
If I needed to go on long distances more frequently, I would not use an e-Golf.
@@SirHackaL0t. exactly, it's extremely dangerous
Just follow a bus and use Acc...
Thanks for this interesting video. You have shown that when you are rapidgating, it is actually quicker to drive slower (90 km/h)!
Very interesting, just began to watch!
RaCoBe covers a lot of real world information in one test 🤗. Did you invent the RaCoBe test 🤔?
Thanks. Yes, I did. It is not amazingly accurate. But ok.
Two suggestions for further improvement:
1.) Refine your table with two new columns under each speed so you get one for what the car shows, one for the real consumption and one for the diffence between real life and what the car wants you make to believe.
For example both Ioniq and eGolf charged 7,3 kWh for the same trip (59,9 km) at 90 km/h so the consumption was 122 Wh/km for each:
Wh/km
90 km/h
Car shows | Real Consumption | Deviation
Hyundai Ioniq: 104 | 122 | 17,3 %
VW eGolf: 116 | 122 | 5,2 %
2.) Please use km/h (with the slash) in your table. ;-)
The amount of electricity presented to the car isn’t the same as the amount of electricity added to the battery. The car will use some of that keeping the car cool etc.
@@SirHackaL0t. True, but:
1.) Regardless of such (more or less irrelevant) "losses" the amount of electricity shown at a calibrated charger is still more valid than something shown in an instrument cluster of a BEV (especially if the car is from certain manufacturers).
2.) And much more important: the amount of electricity shown at the charger is the amount one has to pay for.
Good Stuff! You're close being Björn N level preacher of Vw E-cars. You should get sponsporship from Volkswagen. Hope you get paid!
Thanks, but No, I don't get paid by VW.
the car is good for long distances if you are aware of limits: 120 km / h and you'll get 200km
then you can charge fast for another 200 km.
5,25 hours and 400 km per day is the limit.
Works fine as long you have a 2nd car ... if you are in need for more range.
Quality time ⌚ 👍👍👍
I'm considering an e-Golf for 6 months to a year from the time my 530e lease runs out until the VW Buzz is available in the States. Would it be practical to expect to get 160km on a highway/autobahn type of road trip? I live in the States and that's about my highway comfort zone. I looked at your spreadsheet and it looks like 160km is practical with almost a full charge.
Depends on the weather. With heat on and rain maybe not.
@@BatteryLife what are you talking about? I drive 165km every day (autobahn), and never had a problem. Summer, winter (i dont have a heat pump, i preheat the car and then use heated seats), i never came even close to a problem. Usually i drive 100km/h
Poor battery pack! You gave it quite a whipping. 14 kW! If only VW had liquid pack cooling for e-Golf, but probably too costly for bean counters.
now you want to swap ID3 for E208 white. may get it quicker than id3
i seen e208 at show room in uk about 2 weeks ago
I can wait. It is not too long now.
At 90 km/h the energy consumption is less than the e-Up and not much more than Ioniq. 🙂 At 130 km/h the energy consumption is much higher than Ioniq 🤐. The slow charging rate is horrible 😞.
eUp was in march with winter tyres.
Hey, i just bought an egolf 2018. And when i go 110 km/h it just drains my battery. Must more then you did on 130km/h. How is this happening? 🤔 what kan make this happen? Is it becouse i use the Apple play and AC?
I had perfect weather, no ac on my test. I did a 130 kmh full range test.
How much does the Ionity charger cost you? The price to charge is far too high for most people.
It’s almost like they want to kill off EVs
0,34€ per kWh. Soon nothing with the id3 for a year. Then 0,30€ per kWh.
I hope you are using D for these tests!
Also, if the air temperature drops, then the aero drag goes up somewhat.
You should know me by now!
@@BatteryLife I do know what you like - driving in B - but D is what VW did in the default, and I think that it would be slightly better efficiency. You can coast in many situations, that you wouldn't expect to be able to coast, and you accelerate less.
Most truck are limited ad 89/90 kilometers
ALL, if they are faster then due to manipulation or they come from outside the EU
Have you tried a Model 3 yet?
I did a 1000km Autobahn ride in 9,5 hours in the Model 3. Video online;)
Battery Life Cheers :) I’ll take a look.
Ich war kurz davor nen e-Golf zu bestellen. In sich ein gutes Auto. Als e-Auto aber schlecht wie man in dem Video sehen kann. Und vor allem aus diesem Grund habe ich ihn doch nicht gekauft. Ein Auto für Menschen, die keine Pläne haben und denen egal ist, wann sie am Zeil ankommen...
Is this your music?
Nope, it is from epidemic sound
Any update on getting a Leaf?
Yes, will get it in mid october.
@@BatteryLife ausgezeichnet!!
Beg for the super efficient base model with smaller tires.
Do you have a 200amp charger in Deutschland to test the Plus charging?
Those charge speeds are so slow. A shame for any owners.
without rapid gate the charging soeed is >1C .. which is quite good for a system without active cooling.
If you live in Spain don’t buy this car
Don’t buy this car.
There are a lot better BEVs out there that deserve your money.
Get a Kona, a e-niro, a Model 3. Anything but this (other than the Mercedes B class that can’t even rapid charge)
@@SirHackaL0t. I haven't known anyone who has had a positive experience with a Hyundai or Kia without frequent dealer visits for warranty repairs, and I don't like the Model 3 interior or the frequent issues that I have heard about. The e-Golf is perfect for some people, including myself. Especially as a second car, like it is for me. There are better BEVs by some accounts, but for my use case the e-Golf is best and it's a shame to see people disregard it entirely just because it doesn't match what they need in a car.
Myles Vance You seem to have disregarded the Model 3 in the same way. I’m not sure how that’s any different.
Maybe try the Rover MG instead. By all accounts a great cheap EV.
@@SirHackaL0t. model 3 is more than double the price. Where is your logic? E-golf is an excellent city car