My REACTION to Jim’s Automotive Workshop video
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
- In todays video, as suggested by you the subscribers, I review a video from Jim’s automotive workshop, I voice my opinion on the machines, the processes and the overall video of this “rival” channel
Great video! I think my dad and I have a similar perspective; never too proud to learn something new, and always interested in seeing how our peers perform the same jobs we do!
Couple of notes :)
-The 396 in the video is actually cast iron. We bake & blast our blocks before starting machine work, which makes them appear to be aluminum in the videos. I see that comment a lot lol
-The square clamps in the round cam bore on our block fixture is also the only thing I don't like about it! However, you learn a "feel" of how tightly the block needs to be clamped to remain rigid, while also not damaging the cam bores. In the future I may try and find a better clamping solution. That being said, it does remain rigid enough to take fairly large cuts.
-Our boring/surfacing mill is a RMC-1000, which is actually a Robbi machine out of Italy. RMC used to import the machine, add a few upgrades, and then sell it under their own label.
-Robbi is based in Italy, and I believe they still manufacture similar machines as well as the block jig/fixture, so you may be able to source one. Otherwise, I would recommend looking into a BHJ Blok-Tru fixture, which is actually an improved setup over the one shown here.
-The clamping jig that I use to hold pistons & sleeves and such is something my dad bought years ago from Goodson (I believe). Unfortunately, they no longer make it, which is amazing considering the number of comments I receive from other shop owners who would use one! I have been unable to find anyone who is reproducing it, but I would be happy to send you some pictures of the design if you ever felt like building one yourself.
-For installing the liners, we use several different methods. On inline blocks I often use our shop press to press the liners into place, but we currently don't have a good jig/setup to press liners into place on V8 blocks. You may have seen in one of my recent videos we also did heat the block & cool the liners in liquid nitrogen, but in the case of this video we didn't feel it was necessary. Driving in 8 sleeves with the sledge hammer is pretty labor intensive, but as long as you are careful & take your time, you can get it done without damaging anything.
Really appreciate you not only taking the time to watch some of our videos, but to make a video providing your feedback as another professional of the trade!
Happy New Year!
-Nicolaus @ JAMSI
@jamsi why don't you make use of ultrasonic cleaning process in your engine cleaning process? I would love to know your idea about choosing ultrasonic cleaning vs media blasting process
An old race axle like a 35 or 40 spline, cut down to a stub makes a great tool for driving sleeves in. The flange is blanchard ground so it is perfectly flat, the stub gives you someplace to hold on to it, and it is heavy enough that it does not bounce and also is giving additional weight transfer to the sleeve.
@@gpsfleetmatic Shot blasting restores the exterior appearance of cast iron, cleans years of scale and rust off, but the block still has to be final cleaned for assembly. Ultrasonic cleans the entire block, but does not remove hard deposits and paint. You still need to hands on brush and clean oil passages and such.
@@tedgerstenslager2949 most likely saying applying both processes gives a more perfect finishing. The shot blasting removes rusts, hard deposits on surfaces while ultrasonic cleaning helps to remove grimes and glass beads or media from the entire material.
I love watching JAMSI videos. Been a subscriber for years. They do awesome work. 👍
That fixture is easy to make in a machine workshop .You could make one out of a large engineers vice .
Steve Morris Engines have new machine, you should get one, you would like it, yes you would.
You said Guys less than 30 second’s after “no more Guys “ but yes great couple of Guys 🤣
I'm old school but in my opinion in recent years the term guys has been used for any gender in a mixed group, so say what you want to say and all the politically correct wingers should give the guy a break🙂
No one gives a crap about this gender BS. They are two Guys running a machine shop.
My 27 year old twin daughters call each other dude. Took me a bit to get used to, but I'm 65. Doesn't bother them though. 😄
Cutting Edge Engineering Australia is another great channel, get to see some heavy duty machining from a shop dealing with a lot of heavy industry work.
I also watch cutting edge engineering. Good engineer but Don’t you get the impression that the bloke is an ignorant arse hole that knows everything and can do anything better than the next bloke 😂
Yes Curtis could probably make those V8 Block mounts faster than the postal service could deliver them
@@ColinWatters Who's Curtis
@@malcolmirving9485 Isn't that how he spells his name? ... ua-cam.com/video/WDpKljp-NP0/v-deo.htmlsi=62L8i1ZkYPLwB9i7
"Guys" is unisex in common usage. Don't beat yourself up too much about it.
Yup
It's an irritating 'Merkinism.
Be proud to be British, not Merkin, and use _our_ English.
@@frogandspanner It is *your* language. I'm a Brit/Cdn Dual, with family close to Barnstable. Your inability to think in broader terms and realize the breadth of understanding renders you wanting.
I've always felt that guys here, is inclusive of any person . Even if it was on occasions seemingly aimed at just men , The atmosphere overall suggests that isn't the case .
Jeez. I have always thought that 'guys' used in the context you use it, is absolutely fine as it's a collective greeting. It's got nothing to do with it being male biased, it's a shame stuff like that has to be worried about.
On that Jig, they make half-moon type brass shims of various sizes to eliminate any damage to the block.
That's awesome!
Thanks for sharing.
If anyone knows where I can get said shims, please let me know lol.
Lol...l,'ve been a subscriber to Jim's Automotive Machine shop for a year or so now.
Their channel is awesome, and the father and son dynamic is amazingly great 'tech' with the occasional sprinkling of humor.
In all fairness as a self taught mechanic in my 60's, there is no end to what one can still learn given the advances in engines and machining from 'guys' like yous that actually do the machine work.
It's probably how l ended up subscribing to your channel.
If your interested in actually watching some other type of engineering and machining, there's a young Australian guy named Kurtis that has a Channel called Cutting Edge Engining.
That young fella knows his stuff when it comes to 'tollerances' and heavy industrial machines, and hydraulic repairs.
New Years Eve here in New Zealand.
All the best to you and yours for the New Year.
Cheers from us all here 🍻
Jamsi is awesome at explaining all the tiny details of what they do and they always have a fix for stuff that would be junked otherwise
I bet he had that clamp in the cam bearing with the old bearing still in there so as not to mar up the ally….
GUYS AND GIRLS GUY AND GIRLS. DONT GO WOKE AND IF YOU DO THEN YOU DESERVE TO GO BROCK . DONT PANDER TO IT . OTHERWISE YOU WILL HAVE TO WATCH EVEY WORD YOU SAY . MY WIFE WAS A TOM BOY BUT SHE WAS ALWAYS A WOMAN . WHO LIKED DOING THINGS THAT BOYS WHERE DOING. SO PLEASE DONT GO DOWN THAT ROAD . IF SOME HEAR DONT LIKE IT THAY CAN ALWAYS GO AND DO THERE OWN PLATFORM. AND HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL . MAY THIS COMEING YEAR BE EVEN BETER FOR YOU ALL . NOW GET YOUR ARSE BACK TO WORK ⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘
Might want to use a spellchecker there.
No need to shout 😬
@@kitsuneneko2567 😊😊😊 I DO AND I STILL GET IT WRONG . WHAT CAN DO . BUT THANKS FOR TELLING ME IN A NICE WAY . IF I WAS TO TELL YOU SOMETHING. YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND. WHY MY SPELLING AND GRAMMAR ARE CRAP. BUT WE DO OUR BEST IN THE CIRCUMSTANCES. NORMALLY I HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE WHERE TO GO BECAUSE THAY HAVE A SHIT ATTITUDE FROM THE GET GO . BUT YOU SIR ARE NOT ONE OF THEM . ALL THE BEST TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY FOR THE NEW YEAR . ⚘⚘⚘⚘⚘
Please will you clean that dirty paw print from your wall to the right of your swede just above your lug hole? I keep on thinking I’ve got the remains of a well earnt bogie that I’ve dug out of my snozzle and accidentally transferred it to my phone screen 😅.
lol...I'm watching on a desktop with large monitor, and I was about to 'clean the windscreen' only to realize the mark was moving slightly. It is a garage, smudges travel in packs. I'm more concerned about the manuals getting smeared, but it comes with the trade.
You know you are a machine shop you want to jig build one not that big a deal I've made thousands over the years
Jamsi's boring machine is flippin' awesome.. Been watching for a few months now, they sure know their way around it. Love how the tooling just clips in and out of the spindle..
I love watching " the cleaning guy" grinding a crank. That's fuckin awesome lol
As a shop owner/tech its so good to hear someone give their peers a big ups. So much better than the bagging you hear in the trade. Very nice
Lee, the boring machine is an RMC 1000. RMC of Saginaw, MI, is a machinery importer here in the states. They've imported machines from Robbi of Italy since the early 70s. Look at the Robbi Sirio CL. Same machine, just a different color. If you look at the engine holding jig, the leg has a Robbi tag on it. I'm guessing the engine jig can be ordered from them. See their "Universal fixture for V engine clamping", listed on the Sirio CL page. It looks very similar to the one in the Robbi catalog brochure.
Couldn't find the piston holder he was using. Check out ABS Products Piston Fixture. Mounted on a sine plate for infinite adjustment. Keep up the great content!!
NOT aluminum block!!!
Stock cast iron 396 block (BBC).
GM did not make aluminum blocks for a
Big Block until the CAN AM racing series.
Then it was an odd bore and stroke size.
Love your videos!!!
Thank You!
"Guy's" I believe is gender neutral.......Like "Hey guys how are you all doing".
I'll stop now.
ffs don't start being "politically correct" it's a rabbit hole that never ends.
Anyone complaining about speech especially slang needs a good wobble.
Saying you guy’s is better than saying you lot. Don’t worry I still love the channel
Lee. I`m frankly staggered you don`t use a similar jig. Any engine whether it`s V8 or not should be bored at 90* to the crank centerline. You just cannot rely on your top face being parallel to the mains. Most of our local machine shops have used them for years. Also when they hone them they have a large selection of different stones according to the ring material. Different rings need different surface finish.
Would also be ideal for boring them cheeky vr6 engines too.
Don't worry about saying guys. Don't bend the knee to the mob on everything. Stay yourself and it's ok sometimes to tell people to kick rocks. There's no problem with you saying guys as much as you want.
Ok Guys🤫
When I was an apprentice, no CNC around, we had to make our own jigs and tools. Sometimes if it was repetitive work the toolroom produced a jig and registered it on the drawing. You have a machine shop and work to some pretty tight tolerances. Is it not beyond the whit of man to get machining some of your own fixtures?
Dont let others Tell you How To Speak ! You give an inch and they will take the piss mate . You do You . Guys is Unisex .
I watch Jim’s garage and I don’t think he realizes how good he really is.
You need to contact him and discuss his equipment. Some of his tools are from his dad.
Keep saying guys because it's what makes you different to others, it's part of your moniker.
You guys could reach out to Jims Automotive Workshop, to ask them where they get their equipment from, and to share experience with woking on UK and US engines.
So looking forward to how many times you say guys as within less than 30 seconds of saying you were not gonna use the word you said "A great couple of guys" you are gonna struggle let me tell ya hahahahahaha 12 mins 53 secs you said it again hahahaha Good luck in the new year, keep the vids coming
There is no point in showing too much of those videos as most of us probably watch them anyway, so screen shot comments are best.
The surfacing and boring machine is a Robbi Sirio S with tool caddy for swaping between heads. The V engine fixture is not standard but available from Robbi.
Hey Lee - "Guys" can refer to mixed gender. I wouldn't change that in your dialogue.
I was wondering about whether you cooled liners before pressing them In . I don't like the big hammer approach to liner installation. Pressing them in with round bar makes perfect sense. Keep doing that 😉😉
Can you imagine if barum started smashing them in with a bfh🔨? The haters would have a field day🤣
Jims Automotive needs the rig for boring because being a US-based shop, most of his work will be on V8 engines or V6 engines based on a V8 layout. V8s are always 90 degrees between banks, but V6s should be 60 degrees, but V6s can be at 90 degrees with a 15 degree stagger on the main journals. An example of this in the UK is the Rover KV6 engine with 90 degrees between banks because there was an intention to also make a V8. Needless to say this never happened !
Hi Lee, Firstly Happy new year you to you GUYS and families, subscribers and general watchers of the channel. Secondly most people use OTP for showing videos on line with your picture in the corner, It is free software but watch youtube to see how it all works because it does seem a bit daunting at first, I have used it to record me playing minecraft when I had my server
Come on mate, the last thing my Mrs wants is to know how to re-bore a Coswworth block 😆
In fact I'm reliably informed that if I can insert my dirty washing in a transverse position from the bedroom to the washing machine it would be greatly appreciated 🙂
Take no notice of the snowflakes complaining. It's getting worse and worse. Keep saying guys or say whatever you want, and there are always pricks who will find something to moan about. Ignore them. All the very best to everybody for 2023!!! Have fun, guys...... thank you to Lee and all the guys for all the brilliant videos this year.
You should react to the videos series JAMSI did when they repaired a Jaguar in line 6 with cracks between each cylinder. It was a work of art.
I highly suggest to watch Jag 4.2 series on Jamsi's channel, seems like rather great end result.
The Jag 4.2 liner install was a good series from Jamsi, it was interesting watching their apprehensive approach on something that Barum do on a regular basis. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses.
Boring machine looks very similar to one sed by a local engine builder in cornwall, it is a Schou ..he has the same rollover jig and ive made different adaptors for different main bearing diameters for him..ts quite old but a great machine ..
Hope the Guys are happy with everyone. I prefer guys LOL
I'd like to see your review of Jim's doing the refit of the straight 6 Jag engine. (some recent vid's)
Don't give in to the woke brigade guy's
You should see the steve morris engines channel. He had a connecting rod failure in his turbocharged big block chevy at 8,500 rpms. With 45 pounds of boost. All 8 connecting rod beams collapsed . 8 rods in the pan. Crank still spun freely in the block. Both crank and block lived to be reused.
Do you read engine-builder magazine. And precision engine rebuilding magazine from AERA.
Good channel and that was the most destructive engine failure I've ever seen that could be rebuilt.
I was an auto technician for 30 years. That was the first time I had even heard of an engine throwing all the rods. I had even seen first hand how much damage gets done to a Top Fuel engine when it goes bang.
Suspect that 396 block is attached to the boring jig via the main bearing saddles.
happy new year lee, glad that you have found Jims automotive channel. nick and his dad are really fun to watch. your frequent use of "guys" is fine, these days in the US I notice many young ladies calling each other "dude". If you were to do a study of all of the words spoken by you and your British colleagues, I would hazard that your collective use of the word "bits" would be number one by far. I assume that "bits" is a common bit of British slang but you would never hear the word being used that way over here so I rather enjoy how you guys how you punctuate your sentences with the word. anyway I really enjoy your channel and appreciate your efforts to keep your skills and knowledge going onward into the future. I repair and "restore" 50-60's Fords so I am waiting for the day when you get a Y-block in the shop. cheers
His machines are a hundred years newer than yous
in oz guys are blokes and women
Once you suss how to watch video during reaction.
Top tip.
Stop the video every now and again, if you watch it all the way without stopping, that's where the copyright issues start.
The creator of the video will hold copyright, which generally means someone else can't reproduce without special permission. However there is what's called 'fair use exemption' which allows for and fits this purpose exactly - lawfully and legitimately using relevant portions of someone else's video in order for you to review it, comment/explain about it, critique it.
When the Son is pounding the liners in that Big Block Chevy block it is the original engine going back in a Numbers Matching car. The bores will be machined to Original Factory Specs. The distortion from tapping them in will be machined out. I sometimes watch your channel and I enjoy your content. Cheers! Guy Franks
I didn't read all of the comments but that is not an Aluminum block, it is cast iron :) It has probably been cleaned in an oven and shot blaster. Makes them look like new.
I love watching Jim’s automotive machine shop. Although when you’ve seen 1 yank v8 you’ve seen them all. They explain everything well though and there machines are second to non.
If you want to do a reaction video just look up Dave Richards his old steam powered machine shop is timed to be 1925, power tech measuring indicators you name it it's there and it's revenue earning ..
I've watched his channel. That machine has 2 heads one for boring and another for facing the block. The jig it's setup on is part of that machine. I believe its a RMC 1000 boring and surfacing mill
Steve Morris engines is having some new machines he builds his own billet blocks also some standard blocks . an aluminium 396 would be a rare beast indeed seen him use liquid nitrogen on liners as well as a big hammer
I’m sure they are replacing camshaft bearings, perhaps thats why they aren’t bothered by a square peg in a round hole.
Might have a few dogs and cats offended by "people"🤣
😂
Good pickup on the cam journal . Funny thing I watched Jim's video the other day and thought the exactly the same thing . I still think the negligible bruising to cam journals from clamps as it can be measured, so I'm sure Jim has done this . Cheers
Been a machinist for about 4-5 years now, I didnt think engine shops like this existed in the UK. Id give my left arm to work with this kind of stuff. Im in the engineering hub of the UK too! You'd think it'd be easy to find one
IF YOU THINK JIM IS GOOD WHICH HE IS . BUT HAVE A LOOK AT RE PERFORMANCE UK .
What is that block supposed to be, a Chev 396? In the late 60's Chev introduced the ZL1 high silicone block. They used the same material for the Vega blocks. They were boted and honed to size and then felt pads were put in the hone and a lapping compound used to lift the aluminium out between the particles of silicone. Pistons were tin plated and ran with the rings on the silicone. If a Vega engine overheated the pistons would expand and score the cylinder walls. Repair was to bore and press iron liners in.
Lee... hows about guys'n'gals, covers most genders. My wife tends to use guys for everyone and anyone.
Or "Peeps"?
saville.......
THL machine, block and head machining fixture, I managed to find on the interwebs, not sure of how much they will be! But there are a few different options it looks like.
396ci Big block chevy is cast iron not aluminium.
You can always just say: "Hello boys and girls, Are you sitting comfortably? Then I'll begin"
OK on the minis , Maybe make up a combination torque plate centering plate on your mill . Or have it CNC machined. That way you can bore and hone with a torque plate and offset the bores. You could register off the deck pins or better yet off the main thrust surface. BHJ used to make all kinds of clever fixtures like that, Dont think they have one for a mini.
That's actually, a cast iron block, looks aluminum due to being stripped. That's a Goodson wrist pin assembly jig, I have the same exact one, those are the older ones, though the new Goodson one is much cheesier, they got cheap I guess.
I do watch those guys. And, I believe in one of the first videos about a 383 stroker, he tells you what the machine is.
Thats not an aluminum block. its a cast iron BB Chevy dinosaur. Those boring mills are good in some ways and not so good in others. hard to beat a good old boring bar with a good fixture for speed and efficiency. Also you can have a head or block running on a mill and bore with a boring bar boring at the same time, Boring mills can only do one at a time . And you have to change all the fixturing after every job. Also setting up off the pan rail is OK for production work but for real performance you need to set up off the cam and mains with fixtures like BHJ sells. You correct the decks to the cam and crank on both plains then bore to the cam and crank same for both plains. The read out is good for indexing the bores but you can do the same with a surface plate on a boring bar setup. Before i first opened my shop over 30 years ago the boring mills looked really tempting but had to many issues.
While I don’t find it necessary, I changed guys to folks… 🤷🏻♂️
Great review…another channel that you might consider taking a look at is “real good at doing stuff” it an American guy who builds drag race engines, he has a whole series of step by step in his machine shop of what he does. Maybe it’s not worth a reaction vido but I do think it’s worth a watch.
Used to work for a US company. We collectively decided to use 'folks' instead of guys. Some folk didn't care. Some did.
I am amazed that someone who has been in the engine industry as long as you have Lee is surprised to see the fixture, not a jig, for boring V blocks which locates on the main bearing housings. Most modern pedestal cylinder boring machines use this method.
If you invested in a more modern boring machine, and honing machine you would find your work much easier in terms of accuracy and speed.
Another added bonus of more modern machinery is that you shop would look much more quality and professional. Even a coat of paint and clean up of muck and scarf would look better.
Go here to see Jims Automotive Machine Shop working on a Jag engine: ua-cam.com/video/P-6RIIh6Rz4/v-deo.html
Hi Lee as folks have said guys is a general greeting and not gender specific, if you're looking for a channel to review then I recommend Erik at " I do cars" a great guy who runs his own salvage yard in the US and one part of his business is stripping old core engines and inspecting the parts and selling them around the world, it's like an engine autopsy and he's got a great sense of humour to boot 🤣 here's a link to an B58 he did with comedic results when it came to the valvetronic side 🤣 ua-cam.com/video/2Pbc_lQQaNk/v-deo.html
Hi Lee, for gods sake put your hand in your wallet and buy some modern machinery. Your not running an all our yesterdays machinist’s channel here. If the American benefactor has dried up it’s not because of his offer. If that boring bar is your main earner get it in the right century. In 7 years time there will only be museum pieces to work on.
Well done, you've caved to the pc woke brigade and taken all of us another step closer to not being allowed to think for ourselves, and throw common sense out of the window. Ridiculous.
A little question here guy's, just wondering if any of you have come across this engine before. The engine pictures are from 12:53 mins. It is a 2.0 litre petrol engine with a V10 configuration. I am unsure who the original manufacturer of the engine is, as the video doesn't go into that much detail. He also stated that the crank is equipped with roller bearing's instead of standard shell's. Apparently, it should have the potential of reaching 12,000 RPM. I just thought you may be interested. ua-cam.com/video/H2QRLBnpQlQ/v-deo.html
Hi there another great channel is Grace Engine Developments. Another guy who really knows his stuff
It would be easy to machine a round piece, that could be used to clamp inside the camshaft opening.
Look for a quick way boring bar and then you will see a how easy you can bore any v8 made. It’s a pair of three sided heavy wall 1 in square tubes which allows you to bolt the block to the jig as you refer to. Then you sit the boring bar on top of the hole and the bar bolts to the cylinder beside it with zero chance of damage. And best part is they are outdated here in America and very accurate as well as trouble free. I have bored way to many to remember and you can bore just about every engine made. The bar that has taken over here is called a blind hole borer because a lot of engines made now will not allow a regular bar to pass all the way to the bottom of the cylinder because of the webbing in the crank journal’s. Take a look and see if that’s not a easier way and affordable.
On the subject of the vice Hand Tool Rescue did a vice with what I would call fractal jaws that adjusted to shape with a series of jaws on pivots
don't be to PC and Wokey, just say mates, bloke, sheila, or bogan if they are. PS im a Banana bender.
i work in a shop and i can tell you the only type of boring bar to have or use is one that goes off the mains that is the benchmark of the block if you do then your bores will be straight if you go off the top like with a portable bat then the bore will more then likely be crooked as the head surface more then likely is not straight and to prove my point if you have big mike or do what a lot of old timers did take and old mike and cut and weld a bar in it and measure form the top of the block to the main bearing web [on that end you will need a ball or a pin ] and then go to the other end and if there the same good for you you got lucky but if not the block is not going to set square on the plate or bar and the hole is not going to be straight and the hone won't fix it as it just follows what's there. and machining tools are like speed how fast do you want to go . but all that aside run what you got use what you have but as times goes on upgrade as you can afford to do so so that you can do a better job
If it’s a 396 cubic inch it’s cast iron
Done any 86mm cranks on A Series Minis etc? 1480/1500 with 73.5/74mm bores? Knew a fella that went even further, Triumph 2.5 PI pistons I think. Well off centred bores. The blocks never lasted long though, bores started going out of round in not too many thousands of miles. Head gasket needed replacing often too.
The bogans here in Australia use the term 'youse' to refer to a mixed group of adults.
You should check out Paragon engines and Powlle machine.
stupid commercials for obama care pissed me the hell off, unreal..
Alloy block, I don't think so
Have you seen any of Alan Millard's stuff he's something else
ah come on have some cobbles start saying dudes that will piss them off
H Lea Have you got any newer machinery coming. How about Santa in America
Did you guys hear that Ken Block died .. wild man
Can you stop saying Cosworth please? Can you say hot pinto instead?
I am much the same.All you need to say is Guys and Girls or those of a mixed agenda.Every base covered.Simple really.
100 PERCENT CORRECT. GUYS AND GIRLS. WILL DO .
Hope yous have had a great New Year, all the best to yous and your loved ones
How about using the word folks instead of guys 😁