but not in Diana s mind back then-- watch - after every performance -- DIana bows to the applause -- LIKE IT IS JUST FOR HER>>> Diana never turns to her other great singers to share ... NEVER.. .
@@rollomaughfling380 Hmmm...My point being that anyone who was anybody in the 1950s-1960s appeared on this show from Eleanor Roosevelt to the Supremes. That is quite impressive -- as it would be today.
Florence Ballard was later broke, ended up on welfare, and died at a very young age back in '76; The Bicentennial year. She was only 32 when she died. That's so sad.
Flo died duringxthe last era of trusting your boss and the we are family. When the boss only family is George Abraham,Grant, and sorry ass George. Now a days everybidy gets them a lawyer. The way this woman was treated to promote Miss Motown was indeed criminal. How Mary surrvived it is really the tale of a strong woman.Flo was singled out as the boggey woman and was sent up the creek without a paddle as well as damn near the whole Motown family. If he wanted to pursue motion pictures fine but leave someone in charge of the musical dept. and keep those artist going.Smokey or mickey Stevenson, Holland Dozier and Holland were well capable.The Berry Gordy Story needs to be told. As he is one of the most powerful black man on the planet we will have to wait for his desmise.Just hope Im still alive to see the movie or read the book.
It was said the group breaking up is what caused her death, at her funeral Diana showed up with her usual entry, the family was so angry cause she wasn't wanted there at all
I was working the E.R. in the hospital that Florence Ballard was admitted to before she died. She was very pale but she was smiling and seemed happy. She died the next day.
OMG how sad to hear that .. happy then passing away.. but the good part of this is like you said smiling??? I wonder what really happened to her ... thank you for sharing this. RIP Flo--- truth will come out in time.!!
My Lord, Motown had these girls more polished up than three Miss Universe contestants. Florence had an incredibly elegant, classy walk. Berry Gordy should've tried to hang on to her, she had charisma.
Rating the best in music is subjective. But here is my opinion. In the golden Era, no one was better than The Mills Brothers and The Andrew Sisters for 3 part harmony. The 50's and early 60's brought a lot of doo wop groups but they were more than 3 part harmony. The 4 Seasons have to be put very high on the list as do The Belmonts. Peter, Paul and Mary and The McGuire Sisters had great 3 part harmony. Now I'm mainly talking harmonies, I mean The Temptations were fantastic but they were 5 voices not 3. The 4 Tops, 4 voices. The Mamas and Papas harmonies were incredible but again 4 singers not 3. Crosby, Stills and Nash have to be rated very high for 3 part harmony. The Beach Boys harmonies were unrivaled but again more than 3 singers. The BEST vocal group for more than 3 singers hands down were The Eagles. I mean no group comes close. But they had 5 singers. The Beatles had great 3 part harmony and have to be ranked very high. But the greatest vocal group of just 3 singers only and who wrote their own songs as well have to be The BEE GEES. I mean they were Brothers and singing since they were born. With Barry on the bottom, Robin in the middle and Maurice on top you are talking perfection. The Supremes were a great act and sold a lot of records. But they were not really a 3 part harmony group. They sang songs written for them and the group was basically Diana Ross, with Flo and Mary singing background stuff and looking good. But it was Diana Ross's show. The others were background singers.
Flo was HILARIOUS. Some said she could have made it as a comedienne. All three were talented. Unfortunately, Gordy got tunnel vision for Ross and didn't see that he could have tripled his money pushing all three in different areas. For example, I think Mary's sexy voice would have been great for jazz.
I didn't catch that little part where Flo slightly nudge Mary and Mary looks down and Flo then smiles after the leading lady explanation. Now that was classic. Diana really thought it was all about her and you can tell when the girls first sign on she stood there for a second engulfing the applause. Whew...she must've been hell to deal with when the group became famous.
This sums up Diana Ross to a tee. In the 80s Diana Ross was looking for an apartment in NYC. The task of showing her choices was given to a young intern who was abused, berated, yelled at, pushed, criticized and insulted for 4 days. No problem there I guess because I mean she's Diana Ross and this girl was just an intern. . . . . except, that the intern was the daughter of the President of MGM at the time. Fast forward a week and Diana Ross runs into said executive at Elaine's and comes over to say hi because she was interested in a movie that was being discussed at MGM. Said executive was eating dinner with his daughter. Ross took one look at her and after she was introduced, again, only this time with her last name attached, she about threw up on the table. Needless to say MGM didn't hire Diana Ross.
Blondie looks so pretty... and the way she moves in the Supremes UA-cam Clips i've been seeing...she just grooves so nicely with the best musicians laying it down behind the Girls.
Mary continues to TOUR, (phone error). She tours also with Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings as well as her own show. Even the GOWNS are touring the WORLD! Mary has also done legitimate Theater for years! And is, after being sought by the industry, here and abroad, considering opening a finishing school much like Motown did for them with Maxine Powell! As a consummate performer, May never seems to run out of me directions to spread SUPREME FAITH. Again, by NO means, a Flop! Supreme inDEED!
I always notice every time they appeared together they always had Florence at the end in my opinion Mary in Florence with two leading ladies Diana Ross was a snob
these shows always had the best in gentle humor....perfect for the Sunday night time slot they inhabited...you felt like you were playing along with the celebrities...
That Dream Girls movie got it right! They got Diana in that chair and the Supremes as her background standers! They couldn't get them a folding chair or something, the favoritism was so evident!
Relax, Helena. What's My Line never provided extra chairs when they had more than one mystery guest. NEVER. So there was no conspiracy! Sometimes when there were 2 mystery guests, the two would sit in that one chair that was put out for the mystery guest (and that always looked very uncomfortable).I know it still upsets folks that Diana was able to sit in that one chair. I forgot....who was singing the lead on most of their recordings? I believe they took turns answering, didn't they? Who would you have had to sit there?
Diana was the lead singer. It was her voice that made all those millions of dollars. So if they only had one chair, who do you think they should have given it to? They definitely gave it to the right person..😊
@@lettiegrant9447 you are out of your mind....all of the girls contributed to the success of the group...each and every one...they all were fantastic in their own way....Diana just appealed to the white audience more because she gave them what they wanted...animation...that was her whole style...I like Diana Ross, but please don't disrespect the other ladies and say that "she" carried the show....that's a huge untruth
@@lettiegrant9447 It was not just DIANE, They were a GROUP and people fell in love with the GROUP!!!!! Did you notice Diane referred to herself once again as DIANE!! That anorexic!!!!!
What's my Line only had one chair. When it was 2 people they shared the seat. Three people 2 could share and one could stand or one sit and 2 stand. With the Mcguire sisters 2 shared and one stood. ua-cam.com/video/8JTWTOgVzPY/v-deo.html
It is unknown how much preparation John Daly had for The Supremes' appearance on the show. Sometimes, there were times on the show when the appearance of the "Mystery Guest" was uncertain, due to heavy traffic leading to the studio due to coming in just after a performance, or due to heavy snow or rain slowing traffic in the New York City area. On the last episode of the show, John Daly stated that the closest a "Mystery Guest" almost didn't show up on time was 30 seconds prior to the segment.
LOVE!!! Florence Ballard (RIP) ...look at her @2:03 when Mr Daly tells Diane she ain't no leading lady! Taps Mary's hand ...like saying HA HA! The Supremes
Florence Ballard she was a singer in the group called the Supremes it is said that she had the better voice of the three, she was sacked and replaced her story is fascinating and yet ends very tragic.
There's a video of the Supremes and the Andrews Sisters together where you actually get to hear Flo shine. Diana had a more coquettish voice, whereas Flo had a wonderful voice that Berry Gordy overlooked because he was hot for Diana.
Because she was known as Diane then. That's the name her mother chose for her, and what she was called (and is still called) by family. But it was mistakenly written as "Diana" on her birth certificate. Ross only started using "Diana" professionally in 1965 - some time after this TV appearance.
I don't understand why so many people are so jealous and dislike Diana. It's nothing but envy. If it wasn't for Diana's voice there never would have been "The Supremes"
Thanks for the upload.I wasn't aware that they had an earlier appearence on What's My Line.A regular panelist Dorothy Kilgallen died in Nov.,1965.and this must be after this.A lot of speculation concerning her death,but this would be a distraction.
Whenever there were groups of people that were the "Mystery Guest" on "What's My Line?", they only allowed one person the be seated, with everyone else standing behind and/or around the seated guest and the seated John Daly. There simply was no room on the set to seat everyone that needed to be seated at any given time, with the exception of two people, like Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. Three or more had to stand behind the single seated guest and the host.
This is from 1966 so I was mistaken to think it was from 1965. I like how the guy next to Arlene Francis is fancinated by Mary and he is all smiles with her and chatting a few words to her before he gets to Flo. They all look beautiful but Mary seem to draw the men as she always had.
Did you notice Flo didnt like the "oui" from Diana on the "a leadling lady question....@2:03 look Flo tapping Mary's arms..and looking like what the F*ck she say....then going into the million dollar smile.
You notice near the end of the segment while still seated, Diana whispers to the host "I'm flirting." He responds by shaking his head and saying "No." Get it - different time, folks. There's a clip somewhere on YT of the Supremes singing with Dean Martin and three or four other white female singers. At the end of the song, Martin kisses each of the white women while he just smiles and let's Diana and the Supremes walk off stage. Much respect and props for what Diana and the Supremes, Gordy, and Motown DID BEHIND THE SCENES.
If he had kissed the Supremes he knew his show would have been cancelled.. That was back when black people were treated way different than they are today. This country has a shameful history.
@@scottgcoleman4111 Dorothy Kilgallen was also at the trial of Jack Ruby and had a private interview with Ruby. She must have known too much about the JFK assassination. It was two years after the assassination when Dorothy died in November of 1965. There was too much that was out of place in her room where she was found.
According to Ross herself, her mother actually named her Diane but her name was recorded as Diana on her birth certificate by mistake. She always went by Diane at home and school, but her high school yearbook listed her as Diana, and the Supremes' first album, in 63, listed her in the liner notes as Diana. She did however introduce herself as Diane at their first Copacabana engagement in 65, but later that year started introducing herself as Diana. Her intimates still call her Diane apparently.
You are mistaken,,Diane was looking sted as DIANE on the original release of their first album named Meet The Supremes...on later reprints she was listed as DIANA.
@@samuellowe4677 The album Supremes At The Copa Diane introduces herself as Diane. My name is Diane Ross. I'm the intelligent one. Who does not know their own name?? She changed her name to Diana because it had more charisma!!!!! You know what I am talking about. Don't play Mickey the dunce!!!
Oh, BULL!!!! Her name is DIANE!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you believe that birth certificate crap, I have some swampland in Florida for sale...........want to buy it???????? i
John Daly (the host) was a highly educated gentlemen, and was not the kind of person who used a lot of slang in his language. Daly could come across as a bit of a "stuffed shirt" at times, but as a news reporter and (briefly) a news anchor for ABC News, he had to be as down to earth as he could in order to communicate the news informatition effectively. He let his formal journalistic tendencies overtake him at times, and this was a sample of that eccentricity.
Yes! but I think Liberace had the most unique and artistic signature of all the guests....look for Liberace's appearance 1956 on you tube.....and the audience went crazy when he signed in! one of my favorite guest episodes.
In Dream Girls, Mary Wilson's autobiography, she makes quite the point that Diana's real name was Diane, and that she thought Diana was more elegant. In fact, the others knew they could get under her skin by insisting on calling her Diane. She actually preferred Miss Ross. Having said that, I, like millions, LOVED their music in the 60s.
Her name is DIANE!!! Those girls knew each other since they were young teenagers! Do you think that Mary and Flo were going to call her something else when she decided to call herself "Diana?" EVERYONE who knew her called her DIANE! Many still do!
When she was born, Diane Ross was supposed to be her legal name. However, there was a mistake on her birth certificate and it listed her name as Diana. Despite this, her family and friends called her Diane during her early years. As The Supremes gained fame and she became a major celebrity, she embraced the name Diana, or Ms. Ross, and used it professionally from then on. She generally did not like being called 'Diane' after becoming famous. At that point, people would refer to her as Diane when they wanted to spite her.
@@pensiveczar2239 ...............or so the story goes! I guess that you believed that the name of the group was changed so that they could make more money off two acts and that Florence left the group to start a family. If you do, I have swampland for sale in Florida.........do you want to buy it? That's all Motown propaganda. Her name is DIANE!
People still have the wrong view of black women and it's how they are portrayed in the media. Movies that show them all boisterous and loud. That's so far from the truth. Well I'm glad Mick Matter learned the truth. Black women are no different than any other women.
What a wonderful memory seeing this clip. Diane, responded 'we' to the leading lady question, simply because she was the lead singer of the Supremes. She was not trying to throw shade at Miss Ballard and Miss Wilson.
It could have been that Diane equated "lead singer" and "leading lady" as being the same thing or it could have ALSO been that Diane saw herself as the STAR of the group. This is Diane Ross we are talking about..........never underestimate that EGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't mean to be negative, but why is it that each one of the Supremes are able to generate more charisma in this little few minute clip than most artists are today with all of their dancers and pyrotecnics in a two hour show. Maybe I'm just old.
No, it is not because you are old............it is because class and sophistication were in style back then and SLEEZE is what is being promoted today..............two different cultures!
This one must have come before the other one that's on UA-cam, before the girls realized their voices are wayyy too easily distinguishable! Mary's soft "oui..." and Flo's confident (nasally?) "OUI." I loved this, thanks for uploading, great quality :-)
Actually John Daly anchored ABC's evening news and special events coverage for 7 years (1953-1960). He resigned in protest over ABC's decision to start their 1960 election night coverage 1 hour later than the other networks, in order to run 2 regularly scheduled prime time shows.
Due to the logistics, only 2 people could sit and it was on a very small seat to get them both in the picture. Whenever any group, black or white, had more than 2 people some had to stand.
This very interesting Whats My Line? appearance is from the "1966" not 1965 I remember because Diana is wearing an exact dress that I had previousely bought my self it was beige with gold trimmings (even on black-white tv, I am sure it was also same colors as mine).
Unbelievable how Diana Ross said Oui when asked if she was a leading lady. What an arrogant, conceited woman. Had she not slept with the boss for 5 years, she would have remained one of the 3 Supremes - the one with the least best voice!
Ain't it the truth this shit you don't notice as a kid but my mother and aunts. Use to say that is a shady bitch. Now as a man you could see this bitch felt no loyalty toward Flo or Mary and was just waiting for her next move.
damn! even in those early days, Diana made damn sure that she stood out from Mary and Flo.....with her pretentious walk and singular bow to the audience prior to sitting down and moving her head around as if she was a solo star. Flo was so damn beautiful that she didn't have to have any fake moves like the little fake Diana worked so hard on perfecting!
Look! Diane has had a long and sustainable solo career of over 50 years; however, despite everything that she has done on her own, everyone knows that THE SUPRMES were the main event!!!!!!
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![What's My Line? - Jayne Mansfield; Martin Gabel [panel] (May 24, 1964)](/img/n.gif)
As a 17 yr old I went to see the Supremes appear at the Waldorf Astoria in NYC. It was electrifying! Marvelous!
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i think i saw a clip of that with flo. in color. they wore brown striped gowns. gordy filmed most of their major events
Three beautiful, beautiful ladies. They definitely lived up to their name,
It's so crazy to see these music legends at a time when they were too recent to be legends, and were the current music that day.
I like the way the men stand up for them, it's dignified and respectful .
That was when most men had dignity😊
@@lettiegrant9447 And when most women were ladies. 🙂
Yes, gentlemen. Where has chivalry gone?
@@mortsnerd5100 True 😊
@@mortsnerd5100You mean when women had no rights, especially Black women.
They're so beautiful!
they were all leading ladies.
but not in Diana s mind back then-- watch - after every performance -- DIana bows to the applause -- LIKE IT IS JUST FOR HER>>> Diana never turns to her other great singers to share ... NEVER..
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@@realitychick8903oh please. Give ur w rest will u
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This show was simply amazing. EVERY high profile person of the era appeared on this show. It is just astonishing!
Just imagine, high-profile people appearing on a popular television show. Astonishing indeed!
@@rollomaughfling380 Hmmm...My point being that anyone who was anybody in the 1950s-1960s appeared on this show from Eleanor Roosevelt to the Supremes. That is quite impressive -- as it would be today.
Mary Wilson looking like a beautiful brown bombshell!!!
She would be a bombshell in any color.
Florence Ballard was later broke, ended up on welfare, and died at a very young age back in '76; The Bicentennial year. She was only 32 when she died. That's so sad.
flo wasn't he only motowner who wound up back and broken . in detroit while berry wallowed in mansions
Flo died duringxthe last era of trusting your boss and the we are family. When the boss only family is George Abraham,Grant, and sorry ass George. Now a days everybidy gets them a lawyer. The way this woman was treated to promote Miss Motown was indeed criminal. How Mary surrvived it is really the tale of a strong woman.Flo was singled out as the boggey woman and was sent up the creek without a paddle as well as damn near the whole Motown family. If he wanted to pursue motion pictures fine but leave someone in charge of the musical dept. and keep those artist going.Smokey or mickey Stevenson, Holland Dozier and Holland were well capable.The Berry Gordy Story needs to be told. As he is one of the most powerful black man on the planet we will have to wait for his desmise.Just hope Im still alive to see the movie or read the book.
I can tell you wanted feel like you were giving information but you fail to say that she done more in her life then you have done in yours
People die all the time, your age don't matter, when it's time it's time whether it's you ,me or Florence.
It was said the group breaking up is what caused her death, at her funeral Diana showed up with her usual entry, the family was so angry cause she wasn't wanted there at all
I was working the E.R. in the hospital that Florence Ballard was admitted to before she died. She was very pale but she was smiling and seemed happy. She died the next day.
I'm sorry this is so late, but do you recall the circumstances in the ER about her death?
Sad.
@Darryl Ruiz they weren't there
OMG how sad to hear that .. happy then passing away.. but the good part of this is like you said smiling??? I wonder what really happened to her ... thank you for sharing this. RIP Flo--- truth will come out in time.!!
@@malcolmmarshall7284 I agree--- I and many others would like to know.. She was too young and not ready to die??
Oh! How lucky for them & for us now in 2019 to have the ability to watch this 💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕
Motown really prepped these young ladies such grace and wit. They dont make them like this anymore.
No, they don't. I am not a prude, by any means, but REALLY? If they only way you can get "air time" is by doing something lewd, well...
No m’am.
You're so right. These female singers today are nowhere near as dignified as groups back then.
My Lord, Motown had these girls more polished up than three Miss Universe contestants. Florence had an incredibly elegant, classy walk. Berry Gordy should've tried to hang on to her, she had charisma.
That's when girl groups had class and dignity. These girl singers today don't have any of that.
@@lettiegrant9447 my god
@@lettiegrant9447you’re just misogynistic.
the greatest singing group of all time....THE SUPREMES !
Rating the best in music is subjective. But here is my opinion. In the golden Era, no one was better than The Mills Brothers and The Andrew Sisters for 3 part harmony.
The 50's and early 60's brought a lot of doo wop groups but they were more than 3 part harmony. The 4 Seasons have to be put very high on the list as do The Belmonts. Peter, Paul and Mary and The McGuire Sisters had great 3 part harmony. Now I'm mainly talking harmonies, I mean The Temptations were fantastic but they were 5 voices not 3. The 4 Tops, 4 voices. The Mamas and Papas harmonies were incredible but again 4 singers not 3. Crosby, Stills and Nash have to be rated very high for 3 part harmony. The Beach Boys harmonies were unrivaled but again more than 3 singers. The BEST vocal group for more than 3 singers hands down were The Eagles. I mean no group comes close. But they had 5 singers. The Beatles had great 3 part harmony and have to be ranked very high. But the greatest vocal group of just 3 singers only and who wrote their own songs as well have to be The BEE GEES. I mean they were Brothers and singing since they were born. With Barry on the bottom, Robin in the middle and Maurice on top you are talking perfection. The Supremes were a great act and sold a lot of records. But they were not really a 3 part harmony group. They sang songs written for them and the group was basically Diana Ross, with Flo and Mary singing background stuff and looking good. But it was Diana Ross's show. The others were background singers.
@@zapdunga12 Well, when you look up The Supremes, they are listed as the most successful of ALL US groups! That's saying something!
2:06 catch Mary responding to Flo's "low key shade"....the subtle "nudges" as she smiles to play it off....lol.
That just took me OUT! lmao
Flo was HILARIOUS. Some said she could have made it as a comedienne. All three were talented. Unfortunately, Gordy got tunnel vision for Ross and didn't see that he could have tripled his money pushing all three in different areas. For example, I think Mary's sexy voice would have been great for jazz.
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"And Flo, she don't know, cuz the boy she loves is a Romeo(Roooo-Meee-OHHHHHHH)"
-backInMy ArmsAgain
(with Mary faintly echoing, "Flo don't know...") I was 21 and living in the heart of Motown. Grand time to be alive.
One of the best of the best and second only to "Stop, in the Name of Love!"by The Supremes!
They appeared on this show twice in 1966 and 1967; amazing
AWESOME!!! Thanks for posting. Best girl group the world has ever seen.
One of the greatest singing groups of all time.
I didn't catch that little part where Flo slightly nudge Mary and Mary looks down and Flo then smiles after the leading lady explanation. Now that was classic. Diana really thought it was all about her and you can tell when the girls first sign on she stood there for a second engulfing the applause. Whew...she must've been hell to deal with when the group became famous.
Yeah like Beyonce.
Oh god blowing things up more than it actually is.
Diana was literally acting normal.
@@KBMCINTERNETRADIONot really. Y’all are just bitter and misogynistic.
How disrespectful can a show be without having 2 chairs for Mary Wilson and Florence Ballard! I bet Berry Gordy was behind this!
Yes, but then you couldn't see them behind the 2 others.
True story. The first thing I notice
I believe he were
Mary and Flo look pissed
They should be
Three beautiful talented women.
This sums up Diana Ross to a tee. In the 80s Diana Ross was looking for an apartment in NYC. The task of showing her choices was given to a young intern who was abused, berated, yelled at, pushed, criticized and insulted for 4 days. No problem there I guess because I mean she's Diana Ross and this girl was just an intern. . . . . except, that the intern was the daughter of the President of MGM at the time. Fast forward a week and Diana Ross runs into said executive at Elaine's and comes over to say hi because she was interested in a movie that was being discussed at MGM. Said executive was eating dinner with his daughter. Ross took one look at her and after she was introduced, again, only this time with her last name attached, she about threw up on the table. Needless to say MGM didn't hire Diana Ross.
Where’s the proof of such a ridiculous story??
Blondie looks so pretty... and the way she moves in the Supremes UA-cam Clips i've been seeing...she just grooves so nicely with the best musicians laying it down behind the Girls.
The young and fabulous Supremes
Panel Member: "Are you a leading lady?"
Diane: " *OUI* "
LOL, Diana was shady as fuck even back in the 60's!
Became true in 1972 with "Lady Sings the Blues".
@supremes1964 once Mr Daly said NO, to the "leading lady" question! Flo tapped at Mary like wanting to saying " HA! Diane, a leading lady? hell no!
Mary continues to TOUR, (phone error). She tours also with Bill Wyman's Rhythm Kings as well as her own show. Even the GOWNS are touring the WORLD! Mary has also done legitimate Theater for years! And is, after being sought by the industry, here and abroad, considering opening a finishing school much like Motown did for them with Maxine Powell! As a consummate performer, May never seems to run out of me directions to spread SUPREME FAITH. Again, by NO means, a Flop! Supreme inDEED!
Florence looks so beautiful!! Love you Flo!!
OMG THE QUALITY! I have never seen this in such high quality OMG!! Floo!
At 1:44, when Diana Ross was asked if she was a leading lady, she relied yes. Did I spot Florence Ballad nudging Mary Wilson?
Ross Stratford-Cavendish yes tf you did!!!! i seen it
ROSS YES YOU DID i JUST WROTE ABOUT THAT good observation and read my post...lol
You ppl are absolutely delusional. At what point does her arm contact Flo??
I seen it. Florence touches Mary and Mary looks down at her hand. sigh....
I think in her nervousness (being quite young and all) Diana mistook leading lad to mean lead singer. Honest mistake.
Flo looks absolutely gorgeous! HOT DAMN
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I always notice every time they appeared together they always had Florence at the end in my opinion Mary in Florence with two leading ladies Diana Ross was a snob
there was only one chair and one solo verse so relax
How do you know Diana was a snob?People who start rumors never know what they're talking about. And most of the time it's just envy.
And what would you call yourself? You certainly don't know Diana.I detect envy that's all. Speak of what you know not what you don't know.
@@lettiegrant9447 Oh! come on, you can't see what a phony she was/is by the way????
Very informative thanks for the info.
these shows always had the best in gentle humor....perfect for the Sunday night time slot they inhabited...you felt like you were playing along with the celebrities...
Rip. Beautiful. Mary
So beautiful, classy and polished.
That Dream Girls movie got it right! They got Diana in that chair and the Supremes as her background standers! They couldn't get them a folding chair or something, the favoritism was so evident!
Relax, Helena. What's My Line never provided extra chairs when they had more than one mystery guest. NEVER. So there was no conspiracy! Sometimes when there were 2 mystery guests, the two would sit in that one chair that was put out for the mystery guest (and that always looked very uncomfortable).I know it still upsets folks that Diana was able to sit in that one chair. I forgot....who was singing the lead on most of their recordings? I believe they took turns answering, didn't they? Who would you have had to sit there?
Diana was the lead singer. It was her voice that made all those millions of dollars. So if they only had one chair, who do you think they should have given it to? They definitely gave it to the right person..😊
@@lettiegrant9447 you are out of your mind....all of the girls contributed to the success of the group...each and every one...they all were fantastic in their own way....Diana just appealed to the white audience more because she gave them what they wanted...animation...that was her whole style...I like Diana Ross, but please don't disrespect the other ladies and say that "she" carried the show....that's a huge untruth
@@lettiegrant9447 It was not just DIANE, They were a GROUP and people fell in love with the GROUP!!!!! Did you notice Diane referred to herself once again as DIANE!! That anorexic!!!!!
What's my Line only had one chair. When it was 2 people they shared the seat. Three people 2 could share and one could stand or one sit and 2 stand. With the Mcguire sisters 2 shared and one stood.
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No French accent could disguise the inimitable timbre of Diana's voice.
I have an overwhelming urge to hear some Supremes songs, don't you?
Florence was sooooooooo damned fine
oldschoolsinger I agree ....love me some Flo !!!! :)
+oldschoolsinger Look at Florence's VERY sour face (I don't blame her) when Diana responds to "Are you a leading lady?" with a "yes" (or "oui")
They couldn't bring out two chairs for the other two ladies?!! That was rude. You always supply chairs for ladies.
+newcreature2011 I never noticed that... Wow... Yes they should have... What a snub...
newcreature2011 it was up to Mary and flo to take advantage of their full body images.. they had the power to use it as they pleased!
newcreature2011 This looks so disrespectful ....that bitch sitting and her slaves standing......bullshit😡😬
If they brought out the chairs before the panel put on their blindfolds,they would have known the guest is multiple people.
chibidemonpenguin They could have done so AFTER the blind folds were applied.
Florence is banging that Sassoon wig!
Florence was the only one that sometimes wore her own hair... It did not need to be relaxed with harsh chemicals. It could be washed and set.
Diana has pretty writing....
Her upper arms are sooo thin.
how did they guess??
She also has an ugly soul.
everyone did back then
What was up with that “S”?
Now it's seems hilarious that they have to introduce themselves. Legends!
WOW!!! I haven't seen this since 1965. I mean, wow, they look SUPREME.
This was aired in ‘66! Awesome nonetheless!
Diana answered to "Diane" - so this was before she changed her name to sound more glamourous.
It is unknown how much preparation John Daly had for The Supremes' appearance on the show. Sometimes, there were times on the show when the appearance of the "Mystery Guest" was uncertain, due to heavy traffic leading to the studio due to coming in just after a performance, or due to heavy snow or rain slowing traffic in the New York City area. On the last episode of the show, John Daly stated that the closest a "Mystery Guest" almost didn't show up on time was 30 seconds prior to the segment.
I never saw this version. Sunday nights back then were ordinary school nights for me;
LOVE!!! Florence Ballard (RIP) ...look at her @2:03 when Mr Daly tells Diane she ain't no leading lady! Taps Mary's hand ...like saying HA HA!
The Supremes
love Mary's cute bob!
Flo looks *over* it!
Lol
I think they only had one chair out to fool the panel. I've seen that done with many groups.
They never had more than one guest chair - even for couples, they shared one or one stood. They set it up this way for other trios previously.
omg..the supremes had class and style. Total fly
i love it!
l love this show
When lady singers had respect for their bodies 🙂
Gross
So true. These today are ridiculous.👍
Florence Ballard she was a singer in the group called the Supremes it is said that she had the better voice of the three, she was sacked and replaced her story is fascinating and yet ends very tragic.
She didn’t have the best voice. But the strongest one.
@@AlkalineInsides that's ok you have your opinion.
There's a video of the Supremes and the Andrews Sisters together where you actually get to hear Flo shine. Diana had a more coquettish voice, whereas Flo had a wonderful voice that Berry Gordy overlooked because he was hot for Diana.
Diana was introduced as "Diane" Ross.
Because she was known as Diane then. That's the name her mother chose for her, and what she was called (and is still called) by family. But it was mistakenly written as "Diana" on her birth certificate. Ross only started using "Diana" professionally in 1965 - some time after this TV appearance.
Diane is her name............don't fall for that birth certificate propaganda that Motown put out...........her name is DIANE!!!!!!!!!
Thanx roit66 been a fan since '65: 💅💅💅
Thanks for the info, much appreciated
PURE MAGIC !!!
"Diane? Ross?" When one was not so sure about her name 😁
That's because she was Diane Ross. She only started using Diana a few months after this show.
@@battlegirldeb She was called "Diane."
At birth, she was named "Diana Ernestine Earle Ross"!
Yes, I'm crazy about the Supremes
Also how hilarious is it that Dian(e) can't resist saying she's "a leading lady" when that's obviously not even what the guy meant, haha.
I don't understand why so many people are so jealous and dislike Diana. It's nothing but envy. If it wasn't for Diana's voice there never would have been "The Supremes"
@@lettiegrant9447 and..........if it weren't for THE SUPREMES, there would never have been a "Diana" Ross!!!
Thanks for the upload.I wasn't aware that they had an earlier appearence on What's My Line.A regular panelist Dorothy Kilgallen died in Nov.,1965.and this must be after this.A lot of speculation concerning her death,but this would be a distraction.
I also noticed that !
Flo. Is. Soooooooo. Dam. Pretty💋💋💋💋❤️❤️❤️❤️💞💞💞💞💜💚💅💐🌹💞
The REAL reason Diana is sitting and the OTHER two are standing, Berry Gordy called HER the BOSS. ENOUGH said.
No, the real reason is that What's My Line never provided more than one chair for the mystery guests even when there were multiple mystery guests.
Wow, they were so new - he didn't even know their names! So herstoric!
@violamateo That was her name and she even use to say Diane until she changed it to Diana.
Whenever there were groups of people that were the "Mystery Guest" on "What's My Line?", they only allowed one person the be seated, with everyone else standing behind and/or around the seated guest and the seated John Daly. There simply was no room on the set to seat everyone that needed to be seated at any given time, with the exception of two people, like Lucille Ball and Desi Arnaz, or Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. Three or more had to stand behind the single seated guest and the host.
Oh really
and a ''leading lady.''
They were so cute!
This is from 1966 so I was mistaken to think it was from 1965. I like how the guy next to Arlene Francis is fancinated by Mary and he is all smiles with her and chatting a few words to her before he gets to Flo. They all look beautiful but Mary seem to draw the men as she always had.
Did you notice Flo didnt like the "oui" from Diana on the "a leadling lady question....@2:03 look Flo tapping Mary's arms..and looking like what the F*ck she say....then going into the million dollar smile.
You notice near the end of the segment while still seated, Diana whispers to the host "I'm flirting." He responds by shaking his head and saying "No." Get it - different time, folks. There's a clip somewhere on YT of the Supremes singing with Dean Martin and three or four other white female singers. At the end of the song, Martin kisses each of the white women while he just smiles and let's Diana and the Supremes walk off stage. Much respect and props for what Diana and the Supremes, Gordy, and Motown DID BEHIND THE SCENES.
AintThat SomeShit I think she said, "I wish we'd gone further"
If he had kissed the Supremes he knew his show would have been cancelled.. That was back when black people were treated way different than they are today. This country has a shameful history.
Stop calling them "Diana and The Supremes!!!!!" They were THE SUPREMES! Knock off the Diane Ross revisionist history! It drives me batty!
Their song playing on the radio then was My World is Empty Without You.
Watch at 2: 05 Florence elbows Mary and Taps her foot at the reaction that Diana is not a leading lady...
Oh yes she is.
😂😂😂😂😂
I do love this show but IMO it was lost without Dorothy Kilgallen.
She died behind the Monroe murder and coverup right? Heard she had info on what was really going on.
@@scottgcoleman4111 Dorothy Kilgallen was also at the trial of Jack Ruby and had a private interview with Ruby. She must have known too much about the JFK assassination. It was two years after the assassination when Dorothy died in November of 1965. There was too much that was out of place in her room where she was found.
According to Ross herself, her mother actually named her Diane but her name was recorded as Diana on her birth certificate by mistake. She always went by Diane at home and school, but her high school yearbook listed her as Diana, and the Supremes' first album, in 63, listed her in the liner notes as Diana. She did however introduce herself as Diane at their first Copacabana engagement in 65, but later that year started introducing herself as Diana. Her intimates still call her Diane apparently.
You are mistaken,,Diane was looking sted as DIANE on the original release of their first album named Meet The Supremes...on later reprints she was listed as DIANA.
@@samuellowe4677 The album Supremes At The Copa Diane introduces herself as Diane. My name is Diane Ross. I'm the intelligent one. Who does not know their own name?? She changed her name to Diana because it had more charisma!!!!! You know what I am talking about. Don't play Mickey the dunce!!!
Oh, BULL!!!! Her name is DIANE!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you believe that birth certificate crap, I have some swampland in Florida for sale...........want to buy it???????? i
John Daly (the host) was a highly educated gentlemen, and was not the kind of person who used a lot of slang in his language. Daly could come across as a bit of a "stuffed shirt" at times, but as a news reporter and (briefly) a news anchor for ABC News, he had to be as down to earth as he could in order to communicate the news informatition effectively. He let his formal journalistic tendencies overtake him at times, and this was a sample of that eccentricity.
I'm envious of the handwriting all these guests have ...
Yes! but I think Liberace had the most unique and artistic signature of all the guests....look for Liberace's appearance 1956 on you tube.....and the audience went crazy when he signed in! one of my favorite guest episodes.
In Dream Girls, Mary Wilson's autobiography, she makes quite the point that Diana's real name was Diane, and that she thought Diana was more elegant. In fact, the others knew they could get under her skin by insisting on calling her Diane. She actually preferred Miss Ross. Having said that, I, like millions, LOVED their music in the 60s.
She preferred Diane and her family calls her that. They just called her Diana Ross because the person misspelled her name.
Her name is DIANE!!! Those girls knew each other since they were young teenagers! Do you think that Mary and Flo were going to call her something else when she decided to call herself "Diana?" EVERYONE who knew her called her DIANE! Many still do!
When she was born, Diane Ross was supposed to be her legal name. However, there was a mistake on her birth certificate and it listed her name as Diana. Despite this, her family and friends called her Diane during her early years. As The Supremes gained fame and she became a major celebrity, she embraced the name Diana, or Ms. Ross, and used it professionally from then on. She generally did not like being called 'Diane' after becoming famous. At that point, people would refer to her as Diane when they wanted to spite her.
@@pensiveczar2239 ...............or so the story goes! I guess that you believed that the name of the group was changed so that they could make more money off two acts and that Florence left the group to start a family. If you do, I have swampland for sale in Florida.........do you want to buy it? That's all Motown propaganda. Her name is DIANE!
When Mick Jagger met Diana Ross in her early days he said he could not believe that a black girl from Detroit could be so square and wholesome!
People still have the wrong view of black women and it's how they are portrayed in the media. Movies that show them all boisterous and loud. That's so far from the truth. Well I'm glad Mick Matter learned the truth. Black women are no different than any other women.
Yes but Tina gave Mick a workout at Live Aid!
R.l.P. Flo
What a wonderful memory seeing this clip. Diane, responded 'we' to the leading lady question, simply because she was the lead singer of the Supremes. She was not trying to throw shade at Miss Ballard and Miss Wilson.
No, she responded "oui",
It could have been that Diane equated "lead singer" and "leading lady" as being the same thing or it could have ALSO been that Diane saw herself as the STAR of the group. This is Diane Ross we are talking about..........never underestimate that EGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't mean to be negative, but why is it that each one of the Supremes are able to generate more charisma in this little few minute clip than most artists are today with all of their dancers and pyrotecnics in a two hour show. Maybe I'm just old.
Because you’re nostalgic and bitter. But they still are so heavenly charismatic and divine.
No, it is not because you are old............it is because class and sophistication were in style back then and SLEEZE is what is being promoted today..............two different cultures!
RIP Mary Wilson.
Diana Ross
(March 26th,1944-)
Mary Wilson
(March 6th,1944-
February 8th,2021)
Florence Ballard
(June 30th,1943-
February 22nd,1976)
This one must have come before the other one that's on UA-cam, before the girls realized their voices are wayyy too easily distinguishable! Mary's soft "oui..." and Flo's confident (nasally?) "OUI." I loved this, thanks for uploading, great quality :-)
Actually John Daly anchored ABC's evening news and special events coverage for 7 years (1953-1960). He resigned in protest over ABC's decision to start their 1960 election night coverage 1 hour later than the other networks, in order to run 2 regularly scheduled prime time shows.
Diana was like 'Sorry bitches, but I get the seat!'
Due to the logistics, only 2 people could sit and it was on a very small seat to get them both in the picture. Whenever any group, black or white, had more than 2 people some had to stand.
This very interesting Whats My Line? appearance is from the "1966" not 1965 I remember because Diana is wearing an exact dress that I had previousely bought my self it was beige with gold trimmings (even on black-white tv, I am sure it was also same colors as mine).
Wow This was the frist time I have ever scene African Americans on Whats my line? It was about time!
Yes, she is a leading lady!
Unbelievable how Diana Ross said Oui when asked if she was a leading lady. What an arrogant, conceited woman. Had she not slept with the boss for 5 years, she would have remained one of the 3 Supremes - the one with the least best voice!
Ain't it the truth this shit you don't notice as a kid but my mother and aunts. Use to say that is a shady bitch. Now as a man you could see this bitch felt no loyalty toward Flo or Mary and was just waiting for her next move.
@roots66 other notable celebrities were Lena Horne, Eartha Kitt, Eddie "Rochester" Anderson, Mahalia Jackson, just to name a few.
damn! even in those early days, Diana made damn sure that she stood out from Mary and Flo.....with her pretentious walk and singular bow to the audience prior to sitting down and moving her head around as if she was a solo star. Flo was so damn beautiful that she didn't have to have any fake moves like the little fake Diana worked so hard on perfecting!
Oh let it go, Diana had star quality, resentment is bad for the health.
Look! Diane has had a long and sustainable solo career of over 50 years; however, despite everything that she has done on her own, everyone knows that THE SUPRMES were the main event!!!!!!