Thank you to yous both,My dad Sal Fava,And my uncle Joe Fava were good friends with Herve' Back then,71-74.My mom Julia Fava useto to hang out with Barbera Filion..those were the good old days
Larry thank you so much for sharing these stories. I grew up in Belleville NJ and went to Freehold almost every Saturday. I dont thhink most realize how truly great he was, Herve could lose a race by a nose and make it look like he wasn't trying to lose. Thank you again for sharing brought back so many great memories.
The difference is when you flaunt it in public they feel a need to take you down. There's people who make careers on mobsters and John Gotti made himself a target !
@johng180 good point but the feds at that time started to have more sophisticated surveillance and the rico act . Don't forget that the other mafia bosses from NYC who were more low key were indicted from Giuliani and they were convicted for life. Also at the end of the day, they were doing illegal things and many end up in prison at one time or another. The streets has backstabbers,informants,and full of treachery its inevitable
I remember Herve playing cards in the groom building at Roosevelt when I came in after the races and still there in the morning when I went to work. Impressive I thought.
How, were, when ? I don't have a number for you and I'm not sure if you have my number so here it is (201) 400-3485. If you call and no answer leave a message and I'll call back or text. It will be nice seeing you again. @@francinelepore1338
It would have been good if you explained the nickname "Cabert". Is it Italian? What does it mean ? Enjoying your whole series, Larry. Wish you well with the Hollywood Mob.......
Thank you for watching and your question. I never knew what his nickname "Cabert" meant. His real name is Robert Bisaccia. After reading your question I asked my co-host Jimmy's father who grew up with him. He said that when they were a lot younger he was a fast-pitch softball strikeout artist. The symbol for a strikeout is "K" they blended "K" with the last part of his first name and out came "Cabert"
Funny you say this about 1/2 the seconds could have been wins. I used to say, you cant tell if they're stiffing , they look the same when they go or not, leaning back and yanking on the reins. Gave up on trots long ago , and kept to the thoroughbreds, where you could at least tell who was playing games.
@@LarryRolla of course. I'm just saying, even what I could see, was bad. Maybe you meant that the flats had the same problems even if you can't see it . Lol, agreed.
I love betting Yonkers and even worked for Harry M Stevens one Summer selling candy and cig's 29 thousand fans the first Saturday night I worked-Good job for a 18 year old but I did not bet until a few years later. Always knew it was crooked but did not care because I played drivers and horse names. I knew handicapping was not going to work because you had to be content with a lot of favorites-love the longshots and had a few good wins
Herve was an amazing guy. He truly believed he could conquer everything and most of the times he did. But somethings he couldn't. The story of him going to Atlantic City and losing $3 million was a story that spread throughout the racing world and one he never denied. Either way he was a good friend and one of a kind.
Isn't it such a wonderful game? When the leading driver and the history of the sport is purposely coming in second third who knows where else in order and hard-working honest people are betting their money on him to win? It's a dirty sport.... Worse now than ever.
Thank you to yous both,My dad Sal Fava,And my uncle Joe Fava were good friends with Herve' Back then,71-74.My mom Julia Fava useto to hang out with Barbera Filion..those were the good old days
Larry thank you so much for sharing these stories. I grew up in Belleville NJ and went to Freehold almost every Saturday. I dont thhink most realize how truly great he was, Herve could lose a race by a nose and make it look like he wasn't trying to lose. Thank you again for sharing brought back so many great memories.
Thanks!
The difference is when you flaunt it in public they feel a need to take you down. There's people who make careers on mobsters and John Gotti made himself a target !
@johng180 good point but the feds at that time started to have more sophisticated surveillance and the rico act . Don't forget that the other mafia bosses from NYC who were more low key were indicted from Giuliani and they were convicted for life. Also at the end of the day, they were doing illegal things and many end up in prison at one time or another. The streets has backstabbers,informants,and full of treachery its inevitable
Great stuff always heard stories about Herve but never heard first hand
These stories are great.
Thank you. Please pass them around.
Larry. Absolutely fantastic stories. Especially the Herve Filion parts.
Thank you. He was one of a kind. Thanks for watching.
Love these episodes
Thank you more to come
I remember Herve playing cards in the groom building at Roosevelt when I came in after the races and still there in the morning when I went to work. Impressive I thought.
That was Herve
Larry Rolla
Thanks chaps, great story 🇬🇧🏴👍
Thanks
Great stuff👍🏼
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Keep them coming Larry...
Will do. Thanks for watching. Stay well.
Loved this episode.... ❤️ thank you! Yes, keep em comin!
Will do. Stay well special lady.
Thanks. Will do.
@LarryRolla looking forward to lunch soon!!! 🥰
How, were, when ? I don't have a number for you and I'm not sure if you have my number so here it is (201) 400-3485. If you call and no answer leave a message and I'll call back or text. It will be nice seeing you again. @@francinelepore1338
Good stuff fellas🤝👍
Thanks
Funny looks like a sales catalog on the table
I have hundreds of papers and notes that help me remember. I'm old, I forget a lot and I dribble. I need all the help I can get. Thanks for watching.
You always were old
That's what the Meadowlands will do to ya
Thanks Larry.
Suggest you talk some about Jimmy and give us his background.
You're a gem of information.Really enjoy your show.
Jimmy will introduce himself in one of the upcoming episodes.
It would have been good if you explained the nickname "Cabert".
Is it Italian? What does it mean ?
Enjoying your whole series, Larry. Wish you well with the Hollywood Mob.......
Thank you for watching and your question. I never knew what his nickname "Cabert" meant. His real name is Robert Bisaccia. After reading your question I asked my co-host Jimmy's father who grew up with him. He said that when they were a lot younger he was a fast-pitch softball strikeout artist. The symbol for a strikeout is "K" they blended "K" with the last part of his first name and out came "Cabert"
had something to with him being a good baseball player when young
My father was a horseman.. Sal Gati.. he said Herve had the best hands.. Billy ODonnell to me was the best driver though
I knew your dad. Good guy, good opinion.
Good job my man sent you a tape of wildwood jeb cane pace
Got it Ed. Thanks
Wow...great stories...im hooked
Great thanks for watching
Buddy Gilmore got his legs broken after a race when he didn't fix a race at Roosevelt. Do you remember that?
It was his nose.
For some reason I thought it was his legs. My apologies
@@LarryRolla
Legs broken? He was beat up and put in trunk of his car in westbury
Larry did you ever have any dealings with the Boston Mafia?
Only Whitey Bulger and Tony Ciulla during the 1971 Lincoln Downs race meet.
You can hide in a hole like Carlos did, or be out in the public like John, but it doesn't matter one bit, when they want to come pick you up.
I agree. Thanks for watching. Stay well.
I did his horses teeth when he was at a farm in Pemberton NJ
Larry great story about Henry. Was he the biggest crook in harness racing or was somebody bigger.
Can't answer that, I didn't know them all. However, Henry was his brothers equal. Great.
Funny you say this about 1/2 the seconds could have been wins. I used to say, you cant tell if they're stiffing , they look the same when they go or not, leaning back and yanking on the reins. Gave up on trots long ago , and kept to the thoroughbreds, where you could at least tell who was playing games.
I wish you luck, but it's not always what you see that's the problem it's what you don't know. But whatever works for you.
@@LarryRolla of course. I'm just saying, even what I could see, was bad.
Maybe you meant that the flats had the same problems even if you can't see it . Lol, agreed.
I love betting Yonkers and even worked for Harry M Stevens one Summer selling candy and cig's 29 thousand fans the first Saturday night I worked-Good job for a 18 year old but I did not bet until a few years later. Always knew it was crooked but did not care because I played drivers and horse names. I knew handicapping was not going to work because you had to be content with a lot of favorites-love the longshots and had a few good wins
Smart man! Thanks for watching.@@glenbearh9109
Thank you. Yes I just enjoy racing and I take about a hundred bucks and am not heartbroken if I lose.@@LarryRolla
Fantastic stories. What a life. So good to hear something different about the life. Larry, you are one hell of a guy!
Thank you
dont forget my bi erday
Happy Birthday my friend. Hope all is well.
IF HERVE WOULD OF TRIED ONLY 15 PERCENT OF THE TIME HOW MANY RACES WOULD HE OF WON
A lot more. He was great, the demons showed up once in a while.
Hi-do you think that 3 million dollar figure is accurate?
Herve was an amazing guy. He truly believed he could conquer everything and most of the times he did. But somethings he couldn't. The story of him going to Atlantic City and losing $3 million was a story that spread throughout the racing world and one he never denied. Either way he was a good friend and one of a kind.
If my father was alive I’m sure he’d be smiling watching this but I think he’d deny the 3 million as being rumors
Isn't it such a wonderful game? When the leading driver and the history of the sport is purposely coming in second third who knows where else in order and hard-working honest people are betting their money on him to win? It's a dirty sport.... Worse now than ever.
Welcome to the real world where everyone has a price. Thanks foe watching.
some stories should not be told,