makes me wonder if there's a channel that's focused on making internet security/doxxing into content (without actually doxxing someone of course) with the kind of things people have access to on the web these days, a lot of people should take their online security more seriously
@@FreshApplePie there is a channel like that but he also shows you how to prevent it. I don’t think I can say the name though since that would advertise someone else’s channel on this page.
@@LoeNateDogg To be fair, it only happens on the cheapest, lowest level trim cars. The owner could have paid more money for a push start system. Instead, they went for the cheaper and less secure option. Which ended up biting them in the butt.
@@LePedant To be fair. It really is only an american problem. Even here in Canada it has been law since 2008 that manufacturers have to add immobilizer.
Sight reading keys is totally possible. When I worked for Lowe's back in 2014, we did a re-key service for door locks. I got good enough that I could read 7 out of 10 keys by sight for Schlage and Kwikset.I was only a young18 year-old then, so someone with many more years experience could do it with ease.
I've actually had a 2nd nissan altima unlock and lock with my key fob before. It's rare, but it happened to me. The owner of the other altima was surprised as well since we were both there at the same time.
Happened to me with my 98 civic. There were two maroon ones parked within 3 cars of each other, I only realized once I got in and the dash was covered in stuffed animals 😅
Thanks to this "how to guide," I'm now the proud owner of my neighbor's '98 Mustang Cobra, my other neighbor's '20 Jeep Trackhawk, and my dad's '70 S10. I can't wait to see what other cool cars I see around my neighborhood. At this point, it's about the challenge, not the value of the car.
I've been a locksmith for 18 years now and I'll just say; this stuff honestly isn't that hard to pick up, especially for commonly used keys. And most automotive locksmiths cannot only sight read the key but impression the key as well. In that case, you don't need a picture at all; just knowing what key fits the car. Basically doing what Jerry was doing in the beginning with his 3D printed model but without 3D printer or original key. I generally can impression a key in less then 10 minutes. Get an immobilizer!
Videos are on a new level lately guys. This one was just so well produced , like these are engaging, informative, funny, and somehow have a side plot to go with the information. I usually know most of what gets shared, but the videos are just so good. I love watching.
Found this channel a few months ago, great stuff - I particularly like that it's not just being silly, but it's explaining how stuff like keys work. Keep it up guys, you do a great job.
A fellow and I restore antique motorcycles and sight-cutting keys has saved us several times. A good chunk of the bikes we fix don't have keys with them, and searching the ignition serial number can normally yied a picture of they key with matching code. Sight-cut a replacement key using picture as reference and voila! No need to wait a week for a replacement, and no need to waste time and effort replacing the ignition system.
Dudes you guys used the most iconic win song at 4:18 when the door opened. The TV station Globo in Brasil used to play that song every time Ayrton Senna won a Formula 1 race in the late 80's and early 90's. Kuddos to your editorial team!! You guys rock!
"Thieves are pretty lazy" Bullshit. My mum narrowly avoided having her car stolen by ONLY JUST having an immobiliser fitted RIGHT before it got looted by people, WHO HAD some thing that lets you reproduce radio signals, who didn't even need a key to open the boot and crawl into it.
Theft of keyless entry cars has become a thing now by picking up the signal of your keys and relaying them it to the car. It's why RFID blockers have become a thing.
I agree but RFID blockers don’t always work. In Ottawa, where I live, theft of Toyota trucks and 4Runners are high because thieves just reset the computer using the OBD2 port to make the RFID tag “0000” (or something, you get the idea) and then just turn the car on with a generic key fob. Ironically, this literally wouldn’t be a problem if they just used keys, but even the base spec 4Runner uses keyless.
Some cars have moved to virtual keys on a phone or other NFC communication, or internet based data from a module in the car. While this solves the RFID issue of picking up codes, it gives another big one in that if the car manufacturer doesnt keep issuing security patches and stay updated then you are vulnerable to hackers simply unlocking the door from anywhere in the world. lol. There will never be a perfectly secure locking system.
@@LordSaliss the benefit of keys is that you can only replicate the one single key, so you could only steal that one car. What car companies have been doing has made it easier for thieves to have one device that can replicate hundreds of thousands of keys to steal any car that the can reprogram. To be clear, I’m not against what car companies are doing, just that there’s no alternative if you’re in a high-theft area.
Not sure about keyless entry but with the button press remotes you can send that signal over a phone. So i'd be super careful about recording yourself using one. Most cars use a rolling code feature and if you try and use an old one it won't work but it could for SOME cars
I once had a friend from high school unfriend me on facebook when I told her not to post pictures of her new house key online. A day or 2 prior to that she had posted a zillow link to her new purchase. I work in maintenance field and I told her to bitting of her key just from looking at the picture. And of course it was a cheap lock that they stamp the bitting right into the top of the key. She looked and I was correct. Then she unfriended me for being "creepy".
So then you broke in to her house using the key code, and hid in her bedroom closet waiting to surprise her! And that’s the story of how a good deed turned in to a restraining order, and a felony conviction. 👍
Yea dude, that is creepy as fuck lol. She doesnt know you anymore and is a woman. She probably feels scared AF that a stranger is paying closer attention to her pictures than anyone that she knows. Your intentions seem to be benevolent, but this type of message obviously comes off as creepy. "Normal" people wouldnt know that type of thing, or care to tell it to a stranger. This makes people think you are weird. I used to encounter a similar situation when I was younger, but instead of being told I was a creep, I was told that I am weird lol. Just dont tell people your extremely detailed analysis about their situations, unless you are already friends. Strangers or acquaintances will never react positively to an extremely detailed breakdown of anything in their life lol.
Passive keys and active keys. The example you gave was a passive key, All modern cars with a "key fob" have a passive key in the key fob that has to be mated to the car. BUT they also have an active chip that used the "remote" battery until it dies. When it does, you have to touch the push button with the key to make the passive key work. These can be safe, but RFID scanning is a big deal in my location and that's how they are stealing those cars.
What blows my mind is how house locks are literally the most easy, almost childish locks to pick. I got a pick set online once and learned on my house, then a buncha friends, then I worked at Home Depot and used to do re-keys and it almost made me mad how unsecure they are.
Locks stop crimes of opportunity. They actually can't do much to someone who has planned and has the proper tools, but there are other security measures you can use. Alarm systems and cameras are like the PAS and immobilizers for cars. That extra bit of security.
i think that in this case DeviantOllam would be a better choice, especially for the later part of the video, but for strictly car key stuff LPL hands down, take a look at video he did with The modern rogue a while back
LPL's Lishi tools are hilariously easy. On my focus i was able to open the door and turn the ignition with it. But it has an immobilizer, so no driving away with that
The problem with getting LPL or DO is that they have created their own tools to do this type of shit, LPL especially Sure it'd be cool as fuck to see, but most thieves do what's convient and quick usually...it depends on the prize
@@JaggedBird well in this hypothetical situation the thief is clearly targeting a specific car. To the extent where he's willing to put in the surveillance hours to grab the gate and garage door signals. Odds are if this is going on with your vehicle IRL, they probably show up with a tow truck and some dollies. Print some good-enough repo papers, preferably from a different jurisdiction, so local cops aren't going to be familiar with the exact details, and just tow the thing away. Anyone asking questions is probably turned away easily enough when the fake repo-men state that it's a repo. This is also how the so-called Audi-gang in my country got their cars. They just used a car ambulance with a crane on it. They painted it to look like our version of AAA, so no one would ask questions about them towing a car.
@@fermitupoupon1754 revolting. Honestly they're as sneaky as the fucks who rob cars in LA from what I saw in Mark Robst's final glitter bomb video. Shits scary
I was never a locksmith per se, but back in the '70s and '80s, I worked in dealership parts departments - and I cut an amazing number of keys from code. Sometimes, when a customer would hand me a worn-out fifth-gen copy to duplicate, I'd sight-read the key and use the code puncher to make them a new key instead of chucking up that worn-ass POS in the old manual duplicating cutter. It usually worked. To be fair, I was the only one in the department who could do it at all.
I always thought chip keys were made so dealerships can be the only ones to provide keys and charge more. Good to know that there is a security thing involved too
One simple trick that dealerships don't want you to know: you can reprogram your car to match a new chipped key. The process is usually long to discourage thieves, but it's not difficult. Typically something like "leave the key in the ignition for an hour". Each brand is different though.
If you can look up the specs for the lock being used (the starting width of an uncut blank, and the depth of each possible wafer cut, and horizontal spacing between them) you can take more accurate direct measurements and not have to do any guesswork like scaling the 3D model in the slicer by hand. You can also compensate for a worn key by "rounding up" each cut to what it should be (if you directly duplicate a worn key you can an identically-worn key that won't work any better)
Thanks for that utterly baseless paragraph of claims made for the sake of your narcissistic thirst for social media attention from strangers. Your parents must be so proud.
Back in my day, you could just use a shaved down generic key and just wiggle the key in the slot and it can unlock in seconds. Sometimes they'd work in the ignition too. If you had a Honda in the 90's it was just a matter of time before you got jacked.
Yeah, my friend's Miata got stolen with that kind of generic "key" witch was just some simple metal piece :D My friend even demonstrated it himself when we got his car back as the thieves let the tool on the car floor and he could open the door and start the car under a minute with it :D
House keys are the easiest. All new locks have keys that are marked with the key bitting and are likely a SC1, KW1 or WR5 if purchased at a big box store.
Nice job! Altough in the EU every car thats made aftert 1998 October is fitted with a immobiliser chip. Once I wasnt able to turn my own car on because I dropped my keyfob and the immo chip got relocated inside and it wasnt close enough to the ignition to start the car. I could get in the car and put the ignition on, but the sparkplugs were cut, and i could crank the engine all day but without sparks I was stranded until I shaken the immo chip back to the original place, and start the car.
Super fun and informative vid! That said, I refuse to believe that house in Beverly Hills only cost $3 mil. There are much more modest houses down the street from me in West LA that are twice that price.
@@DavidJohnson-hg1mz lol what does that have anything to do with what I said? Me- “Damn that car is fast” you- “not really there are f1 cars that can go faster”
As a locksmith I can say before even watching the video yes it's possible and also some of our tools actually take pics of the keys to process the cut depths for cutting the key itself from a picture. Still gonna have a good watch! I'm sure it's great!
OSINT, replicating unencrypted frequencies, RED team operations.... All from an automotive channel.. what a world Just don't use an airtag.. Use an actual GPS tracking service that won't expose your cars recovery/anti theft devices to the real world
Do note that most modern gates/garages have rolling codes so you can't just sit outside and capture the code and replay it. Same reason you can't capture keyless entry for modern cars.
Turning off a TV with a Flipper reminds me of simply using a programmable remote. I remember one time I brought one to school, then found I could turn off random TVs with it.
One of my favorite teachers read my 73 duster key, gave me the code and the local hardware store I frequented cut me a "new" key since the old one was shot. I'll be damned as an old Mopar mechanic he was spot on.
The fact that someone needs to make a video for this is absurd. How don't people realize it's a security risk on their own!? nevertheless thank you Donut for enlightening everyone
Late 80s early 90s is when this technology dawned and my buddy Padraig had a watch with this code scanner built in...think TV remote scanning....and we'd go to our local sports bar 8:30 pm of a Friday or Saturday and phuck with the patrons Manchester united is just about to score and we'd change the channel to American wrestling WWF. at the time , he could scanthe frequency and lock in channels to his watch and drive people crazy with the touch of a button, there were multiple TVs with different sports on and many different interested parties......we'd phuk with them all throughout the night.......I've never laughed more.... RIP Padraig I love you and miss you....Cancer is a curse.
There are master locksmiths that can cut a key just from feeling pins in the lock with a pick and it blows my mind everytime. One of those things that is just pure practice and skill.
When you were talking about the ignition and door lock getting worn out so the key didn’t need to be perfect, all I could think of is that video of the guy in the suburb outback I think it was who accidentally stole someone’s car because he got in the wrong one, but he had the keys and since it was the same model as the one he was supposed to get in, it worked
All you need is the slide groove or what ever the guidance lines are called. There is a way to make a key without having an image. It's a old technique which I used and it works. My driver door got te placed using a second hand door. My lock was replaced as well but they did not match my key so now I had a door I can't lock or unlock using a key. I used a piece or aluminum and cur the guide then inserted it to the door lock and gently turned it back and forth. Each pin makes a groove where you need to file it down. So now you have the pin locations. Next it to file it little by little and repeat the process. It it does not make a hard groove, then it's deep enough. Now I have a key that does not match the car but locks my door. It's actually great because if a friend wants to get something from my car, I hand him that key because he can't turn the engine without the emobolizer.
Thanks a lot for posting this video. I legitimately would’ve never known stuff like this was possible and easily obtainable if it wasn’t for this video 💯🤝🏽
I feel like the main problem is that you gotta have some crazy people in your circle if they would take the time to do this level of stalking and harmful theft.
Thank you, I'm really jealous of my neighbors car that has been bothering me for a while, and I told him to post a full picture of it, printed it and got the car successfully
When I was young all old Holden keys used to work on any car so we used to steal spare tyres from boots for burnouts, I had welded my diff and we would go do burnouts everywhere lol
You forgot to mention that car thief's may be able to replicate your car fob - sometimes they can plug into your OBDII port and use that to program a blank key fob. Other times they can use the signal of the key fob to program a new key. It's no longer just about pictures of the key.
Easiest fix is get a "cheap" rolling code garage receiver which is quite widely used these days as stock hardware for garages and you'll be fine until someone who actually knows what they're doing comes along but those people are few and they make enough money to not resort to such methods. So, in reality, your car is safe and sound in your garage unless its built by someone who builds expensive houses with minimal security in mind.
The fact you made a video successfully doing it, explaining the basic ideas of how it’s done and said don’t do it… I feel like you just told people to do it now. I mean I didn’t know anything about this and now I know how it’s done and what I need to do it! LMFAO 😂
I started my friend toyota pickup (that I bought), my friend moved to his father 300 km away, he sent me a picture of the key with a penny for measure reference, and 3d printed it and moved the truck in the garage !
to be honest, you don't need to enhance it you can just measure pixels between points, and find the cut length to scale from the rest ie, top cut is 14 pixels wide, next is 10 pixels wide, so it's a 7 cut and then a 5 cut for example edit: I watched past the first part and you've said exactly what i meant. Nice one
Pictures of someone's new house and key is online is pretty much an invitation to take their stuff in a few weeks; after moving in a lot of people will go and buy new appliances and won't have put away a lot of stuff, ideal time! Car keys are usually neatly put away on their favourite/usual hook, so a quick night job for that - no problem! Deviant Ollam has some excellent defcon talks on the topic (mostly around building/corp/govt defense), lockpickinglawyer and others have other good talks. Someone left their office key on the desk with a ruler near? Could be very easy to copy and steal that top secret data while carrying a clipboard and looking official - hell, most people will hold the door for you.
Even though the video of silly at times The Donut cast hearts' are in the right place. People dump all sorts of information about their personal lives online and yes, if somebody's going to Target you. They're going to maliciously use that information. However, the vast majority of the time. The person that's ripping off, your property. Is somebody you know. That you think, you're close with. They are the ones that truly know your ins and outs and your schedule.
I have a Flipper Zero. Without an external antenna he probably couldn't get the gate frequency from that far away. Also, if that garage door opener is less than 10 years old, no way the flipper would open it without setting it up as a remote the same way as you would any garage remote, you would need access to the opener inside. What is fun is popping open Tesla charging ports remotely with the flipper and watching people try and figure what just happened with their Tesla.
There's a good bit of information missing here. As a locksmith, I can tell you that the depths of keys cuts are somewhat common knowledge. Most keys have anywhere from 4:00 to 9 different depths that can be cut. And in the door lock/ trunk lock, only four of 10 of those cuts are usually used and in the ignition a different 6 to 10 of those cuts are actually used. Rarely are all 10 cuts and a key always used in a car. But if you look up this information you can find out what a number 1 cut is and so on.
i bought a Honda cbf back in the days.. years later my brother lost his keys to opel omega, and i just so happened to have my old keys lying around, from pictures, i could see that the key was a match with my Honda! so i took my decade-old keys and went to the parking lot where the stranded omega was and tried the Honda key on it. doors open, ignition as well! good to go with a Honda key x) so yeah, true that posting pictures of keys can get you access to older locks, which do not have electronics in them..
If you use a strong enough filament and model the grove in cad you don’t even need to cut it onto a blank key you don’t even need to 3d print it you can size the picture and print that out and cut a key on sheet metal
before watching I'm guessing this is based on blade duplication which any modern car/20 year old luxury car would only get you inside the car/boot as you'd still need the coding to start it (and opening it with a non coded blade would trigger every alarm in the car) could you put in in neutral and steal it on a trailer? sure, but you'd also have a massive blaring alarm giving away you're in the process o stealing a car sooo
I worked at Jerry’s in Oregon at point and as a hardware salesmen I had to cut car keys, house keys and any other key ever. Using a machine to cut them, but with house keys, and house locks you had to re lock them with a new key. Meaning by eye sight you had to create the new combination code for the key and you could even cut it by hand using a special tool. Same with car keys. With enough knowledge and the right equipment you could easily just eye a car key from a picture and easily create it.
Congratulations, you have now completed “how to steal a car by donut media course, part 2”
makes me wonder if there's a channel that's focused on making internet security/doxxing into content (without actually doxxing someone of course)
with the kind of things people have access to on the web these days, a lot of people should take their online security more seriously
@@FreshApplePie there is a channel like that but he also shows you how to prevent it. I don’t think I can say the name though since that would advertise someone else’s channel on this page.
Do reverse advertising, tell us the channel is awful and we should avoid at all cost to watch that chanel 👀
@@GP117-19 that's an awful idea, they shouldn't follow through with that soon!
Hey I am also a guy with a jeep altho mines a 1946
“You’d be surprised how many cars don’t have immobilizers”
All the Kia Boy victims just shed a tear there lol
They are upgrading them now. They should’ve came with them built in. Stupid recall
@@LoeNateDogg To be fair, it only happens on the cheapest, lowest level trim cars. The owner could have paid more money for a push start system. Instead, they went for the cheaper and less secure option. Which ended up biting them in the butt.
@@LePedantcharging extra to not get your car stolen is dumb.
Mostly only in the US. Canada and Europe have had laws requiring immobilizers for many years.
@@LePedant To be fair. It really is only an american problem. Even here in Canada it has been law since 2008 that manufacturers have to add immobilizer.
Made a mistake, got told, educated himself and passed on the knowledge to us. Jeremiah (and Donut), we appreciate you.
the BMW certainly has an immobilizer, he didn't really make a mistake
@@peter0x444 they did cover how rolling codes can be intercepted in a previous video. probably the tesla theft one iirc
@@peter0x444 my nb Miata has an immobilizer, doesn’t mean it’s not easy to steal.
Going to be pretty hard for a random person to use this key from his photo and steal his car.
Sight reading keys is totally possible. When I worked for Lowe's back in 2014, we did a re-key service for door locks. I got good enough that I could read 7 out of 10 keys by sight for Schlage and Kwikset.I was only a young18 year-old then, so someone with many more years experience could do it with ease.
i love how this is meant to be a car safety thing but this is quickly turning into an internet safety course too
My dad once parked his car to go to the park. When he got back in it, he realised he got in the wrong car, with his original key! Gotta love Dacia
I've actually had a 2nd nissan altima unlock and lock with my key fob before. It's rare, but it happened to me. The owner of the other altima was surprised as well since we were both there at the same time.
Some older GMs are known for this as well, but only works on the doors.
Dacia🔥🔥🔥
Happened to me with my 98 civic. There were two maroon ones parked within 3 cars of each other, I only realized once I got in and the dash was covered in stuffed animals 😅
I managed to start a Volvo truck from the company I work for with a key for another volvo truck. Yeah not great
Thanks to this "how to guide," I'm now the proud owner of my neighbor's '98 Mustang Cobra, my other neighbor's '20 Jeep Trackhawk, and my dad's '70 S10.
I can't wait to see what other cool cars I see around my neighborhood. At this point, it's about the challenge, not the value of the car.
They didn’t make S10’s in 1970. Unless you’re talking about the Chevy LUV which was the precursor to the S10 which came out in 1982.
@@Oktain right!
If you're stealing peoples cars then you deserve to be in prison
@@markadkins9800 r/woooosh
My dad is one of those mad lads that can sight read a key. Watched him re-pin an ignition lock cylinder for a 98 Grand Prix. Shit was wild.
I've been a locksmith for 18 years now and I'll just say; this stuff honestly isn't that hard to pick up, especially for commonly used keys. And most automotive locksmiths cannot only sight read the key but impression the key as well. In that case, you don't need a picture at all; just knowing what key fits the car. Basically doing what Jerry was doing in the beginning with his 3D printed model but without 3D printer or original key. I generally can impression a key in less then 10 minutes. Get an immobilizer!
My buddy bought a nice camaro and his first mod was a hidden kill switch
just buy a $200 skeleton key for the specific brand and your set to steal any car from that specific brand 😂
solution is get KIA or hyundai.
@@powerfulshammy No such thing, kid, but okay
Videos are on a new level lately guys. This one was just so well produced , like these are engaging, informative, funny, and somehow have a side plot to go with the information. I usually know most of what gets shared, but the videos are just so good. I love watching.
Found this channel a few months ago, great stuff - I particularly like that it's not just being silly, but it's explaining how stuff like keys work. Keep it up guys, you do a great job.
Hands down one of the best episodes written produced and executed on the channel. Well done guys
Someone’s never watched up to speed
Someones trying to steal a car😂
Are you a thief?
Smooth without being slick.
I love Donut’s “D.A.R.E.” Program approach.
(Teaches you everything you need to know and expects you not to use info for bad)
Haha
A fellow and I restore antique motorcycles and sight-cutting keys has saved us several times. A good chunk of the bikes we fix don't have keys with them, and searching the ignition serial number can normally yied a picture of they key with matching code. Sight-cut a replacement key using picture as reference and voila! No need to wait a week for a replacement, and no need to waste time and effort replacing the ignition system.
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Dudes you guys used the most iconic win song at 4:18 when the door opened. The TV station Globo in Brasil used to play that song every time Ayrton Senna won a Formula 1 race in the late 80's and early 90's. Kuddos to your editorial team!! You guys rock!
Um dos editores é brasileiro, então talvez ele que tenha colocado a música
Respeito pelo Donut +1
Queria saber quem é essa lenda na donut media, ctz q ele foi um dos responsáveis pelo vídeo q eles fizeram aqui no brasil hahaha
Todo brasileiro reconhece essa musica, virou quase um easter egg interno q esse cara fez kkkk
Na hora que tocou eu fiquei CARAAAAAAAALHOOO VAI BRASIL PORRAAAAAA
"Thieves are pretty lazy" Bullshit. My mum narrowly avoided having her car stolen by ONLY JUST having an immobiliser fitted RIGHT before it got looted by people, WHO HAD some thing that lets you reproduce radio signals, who didn't even need a key to open the boot and crawl into it.
"Thieves are lazy". Never underestimate the enemy young Jeremiah
No jdubb, they aren't coming for your leased 22 ram. There's about 1/50000 people watching that actually have any reason to be concerned
This episode easily had 3 episodes worth of gold in it. Thanks for keeping it in one spot!
Theft of keyless entry cars has become a thing now by picking up the signal of your keys and relaying them it to the car. It's why RFID blockers have become a thing.
I agree but RFID blockers don’t always work. In Ottawa, where I live, theft of Toyota trucks and 4Runners are high because thieves just reset the computer using the OBD2 port to make the RFID tag “0000” (or something, you get the idea) and then just turn the car on with a generic key fob. Ironically, this literally wouldn’t be a problem if they just used keys, but even the base spec 4Runner uses keyless.
That's why it's interesting that now kill switches have come back as a trend weirdly enough.
Some cars have moved to virtual keys on a phone or other NFC communication, or internet based data from a module in the car. While this solves the RFID issue of picking up codes, it gives another big one in that if the car manufacturer doesnt keep issuing security patches and stay updated then you are vulnerable to hackers simply unlocking the door from anywhere in the world. lol.
There will never be a perfectly secure locking system.
@@LordSaliss the benefit of keys is that you can only replicate the one single key, so you could only steal that one car. What car companies have been doing has made it easier for thieves to have one device that can replicate hundreds of thousands of keys to steal any car that the can reprogram.
To be clear, I’m not against what car companies are doing, just that there’s no alternative if you’re in a high-theft area.
Not sure about keyless entry but with the button press remotes you can send that signal over a phone. So i'd be super careful about recording yourself using one. Most cars use a rolling code feature and if you try and use an old one it won't work but it could for SOME cars
I once had a friend from high school unfriend me on facebook when I told her not to post pictures of her new house key online. A day or 2 prior to that she had posted a zillow link to her new purchase. I work in maintenance field and I told her to bitting of her key just from looking at the picture. And of course it was a cheap lock that they stamp the bitting right into the top of the key. She looked and I was correct. Then she unfriended me for being "creepy".
Huh. "Creepy" when you're just trying to help and make them understand lol
Her fault for not taking that warning better
He forgot to mention that he was telling her this at 3am next to her bed side... after he broke into the house...
And yet they wonder where all the sigma males come from /s.
So then you broke in to her house using the key code, and hid in her bedroom closet waiting to surprise her! And that’s the story of how a good deed turned in to a restraining order, and a felony conviction. 👍
Yea dude, that is creepy as fuck lol. She doesnt know you anymore and is a woman. She probably feels scared AF that a stranger is paying closer attention to her pictures than anyone that she knows. Your intentions seem to be benevolent, but this type of message obviously comes off as creepy. "Normal" people wouldnt know that type of thing, or care to tell it to a stranger. This makes people think you are weird. I used to encounter a similar situation when I was younger, but instead of being told I was a creep, I was told that I am weird lol.
Just dont tell people your extremely detailed analysis about their situations, unless you are already friends. Strangers or acquaintances will never react positively to an extremely detailed breakdown of anything in their life lol.
Passive keys and active keys.
The example you gave was a passive key, All modern cars with a "key fob" have a passive key in the key fob that has to be mated to the car. BUT they also have an active chip that used the "remote" battery until it dies. When it does, you have to touch the push button with the key to make the passive key work.
These can be safe, but RFID scanning is a big deal in my location and that's how they are stealing those cars.
What blows my mind is how house locks are literally the most easy, almost childish locks to pick. I got a pick set online once and learned on my house, then a buncha friends, then I worked at Home Depot and used to do re-keys and it almost made me mad how unsecure they are.
Locks only keep honest people honest. If someone wants your stuff they'll find a way in.
Locks stop crimes of opportunity. They actually can't do much to someone who has planned and has the proper tools, but there are other security measures you can use. Alarm systems and cameras are like the PAS and immobilizers for cars. That extra bit of security.
Should have approached the lock picking lawyer
i think that in this case DeviantOllam would be a better choice, especially for the later part of the video, but for strictly car key stuff LPL hands down, take a look at video he did with The modern rogue a while back
LPL's Lishi tools are hilariously easy. On my focus i was able to open the door and turn the ignition with it. But it has an immobilizer, so no driving away with that
The problem with getting LPL or DO is that they have created their own tools to do this type of shit, LPL especially
Sure it'd be cool as fuck to see, but most thieves do what's convient and quick usually...it depends on the prize
@@JaggedBird well in this hypothetical situation the thief is clearly targeting a specific car. To the extent where he's willing to put in the surveillance hours to grab the gate and garage door signals.
Odds are if this is going on with your vehicle IRL, they probably show up with a tow truck and some dollies. Print some good-enough repo papers, preferably from a different jurisdiction, so local cops aren't going to be familiar with the exact details, and just tow the thing away. Anyone asking questions is probably turned away easily enough when the fake repo-men state that it's a repo.
This is also how the so-called Audi-gang in my country got their cars. They just used a car ambulance with a crane on it. They painted it to look like our version of AAA, so no one would ask questions about them towing a car.
@@fermitupoupon1754 revolting.
Honestly they're as sneaky as the fucks who rob cars in LA from what I saw in Mark Robst's final glitter bomb video. Shits scary
I was never a locksmith per se, but back in the '70s and '80s, I worked in dealership parts departments - and I cut an amazing number of keys from code. Sometimes, when a customer would hand me a worn-out fifth-gen copy to duplicate, I'd sight-read the key and use the code puncher to make them a new key instead of chucking up that worn-ass POS in the old manual duplicating cutter. It usually worked. To be fair, I was the only one in the department who could do it at all.
I had a worn out key for my car in 2018. The locksmith was able to guess the og with a program and gave me new nonstripped key. Kinda scary
I always thought chip keys were made so dealerships can be the only ones to provide keys and charge more. Good to know that there is a security thing involved too
One simple trick that dealerships don't want you to know: you can reprogram your car to match a new chipped key. The process is usually long to discourage thieves, but it's not difficult. Typically something like "leave the key in the ignition for an hour". Each brand is different though.
I used to have a Cavalier SRi you could unlock and start with anything from a 5pence piece to a tea spoon and pretty much anything inbetween.
If you can look up the specs for the lock being used (the starting width of an uncut blank, and the depth of each possible wafer cut, and horizontal spacing between them) you can take more accurate direct measurements and not have to do any guesswork like scaling the 3D model in the slicer by hand. You can also compensate for a worn key by "rounding up" each cut to what it should be (if you directly duplicate a worn key you can an identically-worn key that won't work any better)
Thanks for that utterly baseless paragraph of claims made for the sake of your narcissistic thirst for social media attention from strangers.
Your parents must be so proud.
Back in my day, you could just use a shaved down generic key and just wiggle the key in the slot and it can unlock in seconds. Sometimes they'd work in the ignition too. If you had a Honda in the 90's it was just a matter of time before you got jacked.
Yeah, my friend's Miata got stolen with that kind of generic "key" witch was just some simple metal piece :D My friend even demonstrated it himself when we got his car back as the thieves let the tool on the car floor and he could open the door and start the car under a minute with it :D
That's calld a bump key ;)
Nolan is such a free loving spirit, it was hilarious to see him angry over a meeting 😂
All the heavy metal keeps him calm and balanced.
😂
Staged
Nolans a little baby
@@C.Fecteau-AU-MJ13hell yeah heavy metal is the way to go it keeps me sane and balanced and weed.
House keys are the easiest. All new locks have keys that are marked with the key bitting and are likely a SC1, KW1 or WR5 if purchased at a big box store.
Nice job! Altough in the EU every car thats made aftert 1998 October is fitted with a immobiliser chip. Once I wasnt able to turn my own car on because I dropped my keyfob and the immo chip got relocated inside and it wasnt close enough to the ignition to start the car. I could get in the car and put the ignition on, but the sparkplugs were cut, and i could crank the engine all day but without sparks I was stranded until I shaken the immo chip back to the original place, and start the car.
Super fun and informative vid! That said, I refuse to believe that house in Beverly Hills only cost $3 mil. There are much more modest houses down the street from me in West LA that are twice that price.
Donut slowly turning into a how to be a criminal channel🤣
Not really. Good locksmiths could already easily do this.
@@DavidJohnson-hg1mz lol what does that have anything to do with what I said? Me- “Damn that car is fast” you- “not really there are f1 cars that can go faster”
@David Johnson thanks, guy who tries to ruin things.
@@LilScotty10 LMAO
You mean they're turning into professional homeowners
This was a wake up call be careful what you show online guys sure showoff the ride but not the details
As a locksmith I can say before even watching the video yes it's possible and also some of our tools actually take pics of the keys to process the cut depths for cutting the key itself from a picture. Still gonna have a good watch! I'm sure it's great!
@2:14 to 2:26 is ALL you need to be aware of/understand !
Thanks Donut !
11:47 of course I don't do this at home...
Why would I steal my own car?😂
Jokes aside, great video donut team❤
Agreed!
Plus we don't have a 3 mil mansion
I love the way Donuts still keep that Chinese truck they ordered the other day, and the way Jeremi mess with Nolans meeting XD
@LockPickingLawyer wouldn't even bother with a photo, let alone a key
Thanks for sharing this information! I’m now the proud owner of 2 Miatas 2 Toyota Supras 1 Toyota chaser and 3 Nissan gtr r32s
Holy hell. Editing from 7:40-8:26 was fucking amazing. I took a few passes to appreciate.
Funny to see Donut do a better job at beginner Cyber Security content than most dedicated courses lol
OSINT, replicating unencrypted frequencies, RED team operations.... All from an automotive channel.. what a world
Just don't use an airtag..
Use an actual GPS tracking service that won't expose your cars recovery/anti theft devices to the real world
Thank you, Donut! I've always wanted a McLaren F1, but $30mil is a bit out of budget. Now I will achieve this dream!
I love how the Chang-Li is such a big part of show , you guys should make a disney face for it so it really comes to life
Chang Li sounds like Chun Lis less skilled sister lol.
Manual transmission is honestly a solid security feature on its own these days. I'd be more worried about them stealing my wheels than the car itself.
i had a manual stolen
Lots of manual cars get stolen. The Acura Integra was the most stolen car of all time and most of those were manual.
Thieves love hearing people say that.
😂 won't save your car.
Always park in your garage with sensor.
How when you can bump start a standard
Thank you Donut! My 3d printer has made me the new owner of a truck I've been wanting.
What?!
Do note that most modern gates/garages have rolling codes so you can't just sit outside and capture the code and replay it. Same reason you can't capture keyless entry for modern cars.
Is the average car thief going to go through all this work just to steal your car?
If it's a nice enough car, possibly
thieves have much easier ways
this really is not that much work
If they want to be sneaky
2 types of cars they like to steal
1 a car to commit crime with
2 a car they can take apart to sell those parts.
Turning off a TV with a Flipper reminds me of simply using a programmable remote. I remember one time I brought one to school, then found I could turn off random TVs with it.
8:54 See ! Nolan isn't so calm and cheerful in person as we see him in the videos................wink wink !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
As someone who has trouble with regular keys, I'm impressed that Jeremiah was able to tell where his dupe needed adjustment.
One of my favorite teachers read my 73 duster key, gave me the code and the local hardware store I frequented cut me a "new" key since the old one was shot. I'll be damned as an old Mopar mechanic he was spot on.
The fact that someone needs to make a video for this is absurd. How don't people realize it's a security risk on their own!? nevertheless thank you Donut for enlightening everyone
Late 80s early 90s is when this technology dawned and my buddy Padraig had a watch with this code scanner built in...think TV remote scanning....and we'd go to our local sports bar 8:30 pm of a Friday or Saturday and phuck with the patrons Manchester united is just about to score and we'd change the channel to American wrestling WWF. at the time , he could scanthe frequency and lock in channels to his watch and drive people crazy with the touch of a button, there were multiple TVs with different sports on and many different interested parties......we'd phuk with them all throughout the night.......I've never laughed more.... RIP Padraig I love you and miss you....Cancer is a curse.
the important thing to remember is" always park next to a more desirable car.
I am so amazed that the US doesn't require the use of an immobiliser. In Australia, all new cars sold since 2001 have needed them to be installed
There are master locksmiths that can cut a key just from feeling pins in the lock with a pick and it blows my mind everytime. One of those things that is just pure practice and skill.
For any one wondering the thing they used to copy the signals is called a flipper zero and can be bought off the internet
Jeremiah: “Im pretty sure I’m outside of Jimmy’s house”…
You better be sure or you’re committing an actual crime
As a person with a key that has the physical key hidden away inside the key fob, I see this as an absolute win!🏆🏆🏆
When you were talking about the ignition and door lock getting worn out so the key didn’t need to be perfect, all I could think of is that video of the guy in the suburb outback I think it was who accidentally stole someone’s car because he got in the wrong one, but he had the keys and since it was the same model as the one he was supposed to get in, it worked
All you need is the slide groove or what ever the guidance lines are called. There is a way to make a key without having an image. It's a old technique which I used and it works. My driver door got te placed using a second hand door. My lock was replaced as well but they did not match my key so now I had a door I can't lock or unlock using a key. I used a piece or aluminum and cur the guide then inserted it to the door lock and gently turned it back and forth. Each pin makes a groove where you need to file it down. So now you have the pin locations. Next it to file it little by little and repeat the process. It it does not make a hard groove, then it's deep enough. Now I have a key that does not match the car but locks my door. It's actually great because if a friend wants to get something from my car, I hand him that key because he can't turn the engine without the emobolizer.
Thanks a lot for posting this video. I legitimately would’ve never known stuff like this was possible and easily obtainable if it wasn’t for this video 💯🤝🏽
I feel like the main problem is that you gotta have some crazy people in your circle if they would take the time to do this level of stalking and harmful theft.
Instructions too clear, I now own 14 NA miatas
I HAVE BEEN WONDERING ABOUT THIS MY WHOLE LIFE. THANK YOU 🙏
1:57 its called upscaling. Can be hit or miss in terms of recreating exact dimensions.
You should have just parked the car in public, posted the key online and made it a 'Steal My Miata Fan Challenge'
bro u tryna get a free miata?
Imagine going through with all this, just to show up and my cars on jack stands with no motor or interior
Jeremiah, thieves everywhere thank you
This is one of the best videos i ever saw on youtube, gratz guys
Thank you, I'm really jealous of my neighbors car that has been bothering me for a while, and I told him to post a full picture of it, printed it and got the car successfully
3d printer do be getting people's houses unlocked
😂 fax
You can unlock the average house lock with scissors and an old credit card
@@KaitouKaiju nice to know, thats kinda funny
Nolan getting angry over a meeting was so hilarious
The delivery truck guy broke me hahahahhahahahahah (nice little touch)
Donut Media...from humble car enthusiasts to Grand Theft Auto enthusiasts
I was expecting for a lockpickinglawyer cameo
I know more Locksmiths that will do shady things for a price ,than I do honest guys
Sounds like you don't have many real friends
honestly I need more videos 😢 like how am I supposed to start my day without a Donut video
My 2018 Hyundai Sonata has been stolen 4 times since October , keep up the theft how to’s 🔥
When I was young all old Holden keys used to work on any car so we used to steal spare tyres from boots for burnouts, I had welded my diff and we would go do burnouts everywhere lol
this is actually one of the best videos for safety ive seen!
Yeah, and when I tell my friends that I wanna get 10 Dobermann dogs to guard my house they call me crazy.
You forgot to mention that car thief's may be able to replicate your car fob - sometimes they can plug into your OBDII port and use that to program a blank key fob. Other times they can use the signal of the key fob to program a new key. It's no longer just about pictures of the key.
Idk who does your graphics but pay them more. They add sooo much to videos like this
Easiest fix is get a "cheap" rolling code garage receiver which is quite widely used these days as stock hardware for garages and you'll be fine until someone who actually knows what they're doing comes along but those people are few and they make enough money to not resort to such methods. So, in reality, your car is safe and sound in your garage unless its built by someone who builds expensive houses with minimal security in mind.
The fact you made a video successfully doing it, explaining the basic ideas of how it’s done and said don’t do it… I feel like you just told people to do it now. I mean I didn’t know anything about this and now I know how it’s done and what I need to do it! LMFAO 😂
Nolan is sharp as a tack, man. Love that dude
12:55 The exaggerated gestures are required for these hacks to work. 😂
I started my friend toyota pickup (that I bought), my friend moved to his father 300 km away, he sent me a picture of the key with a penny for measure reference, and 3d printed it and moved the truck in the garage !
to be honest, you don't need to enhance it
you can just measure pixels between points, and find the cut length to scale from the rest
ie, top cut is 14 pixels wide, next is 10 pixels wide,
so it's a 7 cut and then a 5 cut for example
edit: I watched past the first part and you've said exactly what i meant. Nice one
Best video tutorial for "How to expand your car collection on a budget". Thanks guys.
Pictures of someone's new house and key is online is pretty much an invitation to take their stuff in a few weeks; after moving in a lot of people will go and buy new appliances and won't have put away a lot of stuff, ideal time! Car keys are usually neatly put away on their favourite/usual hook, so a quick night job for that - no problem!
Deviant Ollam has some excellent defcon talks on the topic (mostly around building/corp/govt defense), lockpickinglawyer and others have other good talks. Someone left their office key on the desk with a ruler near? Could be very easy to copy and steal that top secret data while carrying a clipboard and looking official - hell, most people will hold the door for you.
Even though the video of silly at times The Donut cast hearts' are in the right place.
People dump all sorts of information about their personal lives online and yes, if somebody's going to Target you. They're going to maliciously use that information.
However, the vast majority of the time. The person that's ripping off, your property. Is somebody you know. That you think, you're close with. They are the ones that truly know your ins and outs and your schedule.
I have a Flipper Zero. Without an external antenna he probably couldn't get the gate frequency from that far away. Also, if that garage door opener is less than 10 years old, no way the flipper would open it without setting it up as a remote the same way as you would any garage remote, you would need access to the opener inside. What is fun is popping open Tesla charging ports remotely with the flipper and watching people try and figure what just happened with their Tesla.
There's a good bit of information missing here. As a locksmith, I can tell you that the depths of keys cuts are somewhat common knowledge. Most keys have anywhere from 4:00 to 9 different depths that can be cut. And in the door lock/ trunk lock, only four of 10 of those cuts are usually used and in the ignition a different 6 to 10 of those cuts are actually used. Rarely are all 10 cuts and a key always used in a car. But if you look up this information you can find out what a number 1 cut is and so on.
So this could be real
Great video, and a proper nightmare for that mansion owner given that all of the security camera angles are now all on the internet.
i bought a Honda cbf back in the days.. years later my brother lost his keys to opel omega, and i just so happened to have my old keys lying around, from pictures, i could see that the key was a match with my Honda! so i took my decade-old keys and went to the parking lot where the stranded omega was and tried the Honda key on it. doors open, ignition as well! good to go with a Honda key x) so yeah, true that posting pictures of keys can get you access to older locks, which do not have electronics in them..
If you use a strong enough filament and model the grove in cad you don’t even need to cut it onto a blank key you don’t even need to 3d print it you can size the picture and print that out and cut a key on sheet metal
Owned an Opel Kadet back in the days. You could unlock and start that thing with basically anything that fits in the holes :)
before watching I'm guessing this is based on blade duplication which any modern car/20 year old luxury car would only get you inside the car/boot as you'd still need the coding to start it (and opening it with a non coded blade would trigger every alarm in the car) could you put in in neutral and steal it on a trailer? sure, but you'd also have a massive blaring alarm giving away you're in the process o stealing a car sooo
I worked at Jerry’s in Oregon at point and as a hardware salesmen I had to cut car keys, house keys and any other key ever. Using a machine to cut them, but with house keys, and house locks you had to re lock them with a new key. Meaning by eye sight you had to create the new combination code for the key and you could even cut it by hand using a special tool. Same with car keys. With enough knowledge and the right equipment you could easily just eye a car key from a picture and easily create it.
So in the same way you could break into someone’s house if you got a picture of the house key.