John Carpenter's APOCALYPSE TRILOGY: Choosing How The World Ends

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  • @MattDraper
    @MattDraper  День тому +30

    Happy Early Halloween! What's your favorite UNOFFICIAL trilogy?

    • @GoryRory
      @GoryRory День тому +5

      The Exorcist, The Ninth Configuration, The Exorcist III.

    • @ginofrancejr555
      @ginofrancejr555 День тому +2

      Apocalypse trilogy, the original scream trilogy as well as the dream trilogy

    • @ohsocinematic8909
      @ohsocinematic8909 День тому +2

      @@GoryRory Nice!

    • @bingerz237
      @bingerz237 День тому +6

      Alien, Blade Runner, and Soldier.

    • @boobootittleman7299
      @boobootittleman7299 День тому +5

      The Hear No Evil, See No Evil, Speak No Evil trilogy:
      Hear - Hush
      Speak - A Quiet Place
      See - Don’t Breath
      The Scorsese/Schrader Faith Trilogy:
      Silence, The Last Temple of Christ & First Reformed
      The Watergate Trilogy:
      The Post, All the Presidents Men, & Frost/Nixon
      The NASA trilogy:
      The Right Stuff, First Man, & Apollo 13.

  • @jeremyhyler
    @jeremyhyler День тому +10

    i asked myself, "where my matt draper video?", and here it is.

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 8 днів тому +19

    Prince of Darkness may not be my favorite of his films but it has the single greatest Alice Cooper cameo in any film. That alone gives it 5 out of 5 stars

    • @gregbors8364
      @gregbors8364 День тому +2

      IDK, he was pretty great in “Wayne’s World.”
      “Me-ah-wah-ke: ‘The Good Land’”

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 8 днів тому +69

    Mouth of Madness is the single greatest legal distinct from Stephen King movie ever made.

    • @Demortixx
      @Demortixx День тому

      No

    • @orientalgnostic5046
      @orientalgnostic5046 16 годин тому +4

      Actually, way more Lovecraftian than related to SK, really. Perhaps the ultimate unofficially Lovecraftian film ever. Imho.

    • @josephmummerth
      @josephmummerth 15 годин тому

      all three of these films are very lovecraftian the third and final film in particular !

  • @KremBotop
    @KremBotop День тому +14

    I know this is somewhat offtopic but I really wanted to say that I'm very impressed by the sheer variety of topics you have covered so far. I was introduced to your channel via the great Godzilla videos and I was surprised you had much more to offer. The biggest surprise has to be the Peanuts videos, considering that I've been revisiting that series lately (hopefully you cover that topic again soon btw). Keep up the good work!

  • @pauliewalnuts2072
    @pauliewalnuts2072 День тому +4

    Watched all three for the first time this year and loved them all

  • @brentjago
    @brentjago 7 днів тому +42

    Prince of Darkness is excellent. I've always personally found it to be Carpenters scariest and most unsettling film. This flick makes my skin crawl.
    It's also been spoken of many times, but the isolation of the characters in The Thing always comes up, but I'll argue to throw PoD in there as well.
    This group of kids who are trapped in this abadoned church, in the middle of LA and the entire world around them has no idea that the fate of their souls is being fought for just down that street.
    I love these 3 films. Thanks for coming back to Carpenter, Matt!

    • @videoessaydotcom
      @videoessaydotcom День тому

      Sorry if this is bad form or something. I made a video essay on why I love POD so much that I'm really proud of, and it's been dead in the youtube algo for 2 years.
      ua-cam.com/video/4tipWmghlDE/v-deo.html
      Matt, sorry if you don't allow self promo. Delete on sight if this is your wish!

    • @jacklindsey8400
      @jacklindsey8400 День тому +2

      It's the film I'm most surprised by, sometimes I even like it more than The Thing. It's also the film I can't blame anyone for not getting into because it's so weird, more so than the Thing, which is a monster that can be killed, and Madness... which is basically lovecraftian/King. It's like nothing I've ever seen and I appreciate it for that.

  • @Faction.Paradox
    @Faction.Paradox День тому +6

    Can't wait to hear the thoughts about Prince of Darkness, it's not perfect but the blurring of science, religion & faith is a very potent and unique take

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue4 8 днів тому +4

    I flip flop between his version of the Thing and Evil Dead 2 being my favorite horror film. Film is perfect. The fact he remade an all time classic and we argue which is better just proves he is a master of horror

  • @timetodothis3286
    @timetodothis3286 День тому +2

    I just saw the Thing the other day for the first time, and I immediately came to see if you had a video, guess i was a few day early for it

  • @jonathanmulondo9206
    @jonathanmulondo9206 День тому +6

    These are honestly some of John Carpenter 's best movies. Each movie has different takes on Cosmic horror and takes the tropes up eleven. Prince of Darkness is probably my favorite out of the trilogy

  • @ginofrancejr555
    @ginofrancejr555 День тому +2

    Excellent review carpenters apocalypse trilogy is cosmic and lovecraftian horror done right

  • @johnpittsii7524
    @johnpittsii7524 День тому +1

    Thanks for the amazing video Matt ❤️

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 День тому

    Heck yes
    I really love this movie. Even though I know what happens I can never get tired of the plot or the environment.
    Be isolated in an arctic setting will never not be interesting.
    Another great one Matt

  • @Anynom
    @Anynom День тому

    Ah, nothing like a good Draper focus on John Carpenter!

  • @se_blate
    @se_blate День тому

    Me encanta tu canal Matt, saludos desde Argentina. Aguante Carpenter!

  • @carsonsmith7314
    @carsonsmith7314 День тому

    Well, three of my favorite horror movies from one of my favorite directors getting the respect they deserve equally. It must be my birthday! (It is when I write this, actually)

  • @Jacob33FilmGuy
    @Jacob33FilmGuy День тому

    This is an amazing video Matt I think my favorite in this trilogy is John Carpenter’s 1982 remake The Thing an amazing film keep up the great work could you do a video covering Jonathan Hickman’s legendary run on the Fantastic Four I have started reading vol 1 and it is fantastic

  • @TheThrill007
    @TheThrill007 День тому

    I love The Thing, it is my favorite of the trilogy if not my favorite of Carpenter's filmography. It's endlessly disappointing to know it didn't do well at the box office

  • @dawwe8869
    @dawwe8869 День тому +1

    Eyy

  • @ginofrancejr555
    @ginofrancejr555 День тому

    Will you cover carpenters villiage of the dammed ghosts of mars vampire$ and big trouble in little china

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  22 години тому

      I will definitely cover Big Trouble, but not sure about Ghosts and Vampires with a dollar sign

  • @Carlosonebillion
    @Carlosonebillion День тому +3

    First goddamn week of fall...

  • @tayloredwards4968
    @tayloredwards4968 День тому +1

    I'm going to be honest it does kind of remind me of attack on Titan. The reason why is because you have these characters who are trapped inside of a wall. And they have to do whatever they can to survive.

  • @CineRanter
    @CineRanter День тому +17

    I wonder how different Carpenter's filmography would have turned out had The Thing not flopped

    • @CorbCorbin
      @CorbCorbin День тому

      Same.
      I think he’d have likely gotten too much money, and made a bigger flop, like Big Trouble in Little China, that came after his 80’s run of successes snd failures, with Starman being a real hit, that got him a lot of freedom for Big Trouble.
      It’s hard to say. My favorite Carpenter movies were all flops, or minor successes.

    • @MattDraper
      @MattDraper  21 годину тому +2

      He would have definitely done Firestarter, since he was kicked off the project due to the The Thing flopping. From there, I think he could have had more freedom in his projects.

  • @SnapperChannel
    @SnapperChannel День тому +9

    In the Mouth of Madness is not only my personal favorite of the trilogy but my favorite Carpenter film. But all three films in the Apocalypse Trilogy are phenomenal pieces of horror filmmaking.

    • @LUCKO2022
      @LUCKO2022 12 годин тому

      You would be wrong
      That movie is boring and dumb.
      The Thing is easily Carpenter's best film with They Live as a close 2nd

  • @jondorsey2043
    @jondorsey2043 День тому +2

    The dream sequences in Prince of Darkness changed my whole life. I was 12 or 13 i think. Something clicked in my brain, and i then was aware that bad things so very much worse than i had thought possible, were possible.

  • @tenimeartstudios
    @tenimeartstudios День тому +2

    THANK YOU FOR PRONOUNCING ROB BOTTIN'S LAST NAME CORRECTLY.
    It is impossibly rare on this platform.

  • @TalentCaldwell
    @TalentCaldwell День тому +2

    Nobody ever talks about Carpenter’s two episodes from MASTERS OF HORROR (2005-2006). I mentioned this on your Carpenter video from last year and that you should check them out. In my opinion his episode “Cigarette Burns” with Norman Reedus is one of the most uncomfortable horror stories I’ve ever seen. And “Pro-Life” with Ron Perlman is an entertaining THEY LIVE style action/horror satire.
    Both are much better worth being mentioned along side his body of work than THE WARD (2009). It’s a shame that no one ever recognizes them.

  • @superby1
    @superby1 День тому +2

    What an unexpected joy to see! I love In the Mouth of Madness, so any time someone talks about them, I'm there. I enjoy The Thing, and discovered Prince of Darkness ten years ago. I love how each movie has its own feel to it; that even though they're from the same filmmaker, you get a different experience each time.

  • @boobootittleman7299
    @boobootittleman7299 День тому +2

    I think John Carpenter has, at least what I consider, the best directorial streak of all time. Literally every film of his from 1976 - 1988 every single one of his films are fucking classics. I consider his last true “classic” to be ‘In the Mouth of Madness’.

  • @b3ntl33
    @b3ntl33 День тому +2

    I never noticed the distinctions of each Apacolypse-type with this trilogy. Each one depicts body, mind, and soul. Each one at the forefront with secondary affects in the other aspects of the self. The Thing attacks the body, which consumes the mind and soul once assimilation is complete. Prince of Darkness seeks to corrupt the soul, leaving the body and mind to break down. And Mouth of Madness seeks to destroy the mind, thus distorting and warping the body and soul. Dang!

  • @Dolarhyde1981
    @Dolarhyde1981 День тому +2

    Was just looking for in the mouth of madness video essays, what glorious timing.

  • @thunderphoenix440
    @thunderphoenix440 День тому +2

    Do you read Sutter Cane?

  • @rickytoddbotelho9555
    @rickytoddbotelho9555 20 годин тому +1

    This ' thing 'film instantly became one of my favorites the day I witnessed it. Consider it one of the best movies ever made. Along with Frankenstein and night of the living dead 😂❤👻☠️

  • @TheBeird
    @TheBeird День тому +1

    Yes dude, Apocalypse of Body Soul and Mind! I’ve been saying this for years!

  • @bensneb360
    @bensneb360 День тому +1

    These movies also easily has some of John Carptenders best soundtracks, dude knows how to make the apocalypse sound cool

  • @JohnTLyon
    @JohnTLyon День тому +1

    In the end, reality is pretty ambiguous anyway, doncha think?

  • @buzzholden2425
    @buzzholden2425 День тому +1

    12:39 I thought he said something a lot different at first

  • @rankoorovic7904
    @rankoorovic7904 День тому +1

    The Thing is by far the best one of the 3

  • @JurassicRod
    @JurassicRod 17 годин тому

    I swap out Mouth of Madness for They Live. As much as I love Carpenters films and as highly regarded as Mouth of Madness is, I never got into it.

  • @Youkaikaze
    @Youkaikaze 8 годин тому

    Maaaaan, I love Carpenter. Him and Kirkbride were really good about dropping red pills for gnosticism, the occult, and mysticism

  • @madsjacobsen2551
    @madsjacobsen2551 18 годин тому

    Please do a retrospective in October about the Chucky franchise especially the television show

  • @MD76MAC
    @MD76MAC 17 годин тому

    Prince of Darkness and They Live are John's best films.

  • @TheRealBSDigitalQ
    @TheRealBSDigitalQ 17 годин тому

    I highly encourage folks who enjoyed/are interested in "In the Mouth of Madness" to check out Jonathan Carroll's 1980 novel "The Land of Laughs," which Michael De Luca claimed to have based ITMOM on.

  • @benderbendingrodriguez420
    @benderbendingrodriguez420 День тому

    Great watches for the upcoming Halloween season. Long live Carpenter

  • @Kurazaybo
    @Kurazaybo 8 годин тому

    In the Mouth of Madness is easily one of Carpenter's best movies and probably also from Sam Neil

  • @phillipjohnson8903
    @phillipjohnson8903 13 годин тому

    Starting off the best time of the year with the a great matt draper vid. Couldn't ask for more

  • @theebronks
    @theebronks 18 годин тому

    Carpenter was such a great film maker; appreciate your thoughts and commentary on his works.

  • @dfailsthemost
    @dfailsthemost 14 годин тому

    Man, Wyatt Russel looks just like Thing-era Kurt.

  • @av_oid
    @av_oid 11 годин тому

    I hadn’t seen In the Mouth of Madness, and I’m kind of annoyed you gave away the end twist.

  • @edvaira6891
    @edvaira6891 День тому

    One of The most bizarre things about THE THING is that the other film its screenwriter, Bill Lancaster was known for was…THE BAD NEWS BEARS??!!

  • @donnywilliams9494
    @donnywilliams9494 20 годин тому

    I just couldn't get into prince of darkness. I really wanted to, but it just wasn't doing it for me.
    The other two are undisputed masterclasses in horror. All 3 feel like love letters to HP Lovecraft.

  • @aVerveQuest
    @aVerveQuest День тому

    The great follow-up to Apocalypse Now
    "Apocalypse Soon..."

  • @josephmummerth
    @josephmummerth 15 годин тому

    my three favorite carpenter films the two best are the thing ,and in the mouth of madness !

  • @coldtour56
    @coldtour56 День тому

    Great video. Love Carpenter's movies, especially because they inspire so much speculation and discussion. Always fun to revisit.

  • @LDFrost117
    @LDFrost117 13 годин тому

    It is still beyond insane to me that The Thing was so hated at release, not to mention being a box office bomb too... really goes to show how critics and audiences reactions to film can vary wildly over time and initial receptions are actually rarely indicative of a film's true quality

  • @dfailsthemost
    @dfailsthemost 14 годин тому

    I wonder what recent movies are generally disliked but will come to be revered.

  • @inkenoir
    @inkenoir День тому

    this was an absolutely fantastic video. Thank you so much. Very appropriate and correct to wish a Happy Halloween to all on Sept 26 since, as we all know, Halloween now begins on Sept 21 and goes all the way through Oct 31 :3 It's true, it's true.
    We will all face our apocalypse, you say... it makes me wonder if you read the occult :) this is very true, though I assure you it doesn't have to be terrifying. Meditation helps a lot!
    Your channel is so fantastic. Stay Rad. 🌟

  • @robderiche
    @robderiche День тому

    Cool video but I’m surprised there was no mention of HP Lovecraft, whose bleak vision is the heart of In the Mouth of Madness and maybe the whole trilogy more broadly.

  • @gregbors8364
    @gregbors8364 День тому

    It’s a “Choose How Your Own World Ends Adventure”

  • @edvaira6891
    @edvaira6891 День тому

    Mouth of Madness wasn’t his last “great movie”….that was VAMPIRES

  • @benderbendingrodriguez420
    @benderbendingrodriguez420 День тому

    Fun fact: Stan Winston (creator of the Terminator,Predator, Alien Queen & all the Jurrasic Park dinos) helped on special effects work for The Thing out of favor for Rob Bottin because Bottin was so overworked.. but Stan wanted to remain uncredited in the credits because in his words "The Thing is Robs baby & Id never take responsibility for any of it. I just lent a hand here & there"

  • @spagredo
    @spagredo День тому

    Mouth of Madness is, quite easily, my favorite Carpenter joint. It’s combination of King and Lovecraft with a good dash of Glengarry Glen Ross and its rock influenced soundtrack is just…nothing else like it.

  • @Dude-oh8vq
    @Dude-oh8vq День тому

    I know that The Thing is the best film in this unconnected trilogy, but my personal favorite is In The Mouth Of Madness.

  • @furagnar
    @furagnar День тому

    I found this channel thru your great comics retrospectives. While I am not a fan of horror movies, your analysis is amazing. It hasn't particularly boosted my interest watching them, but it makes the meta around interesting.
    Thank you

  • @RaphaelRemington6969
    @RaphaelRemington6969 День тому

    I was missing a Matt Draper video. I really dig your takes, editing, scores, your videos are nostalgic but modern at he same time. I’m a huge fan.

  • @brianmoney410
    @brianmoney410 День тому

    Prince of Darkness is my favorite horror movie of all time. I know The Thing is a better movie, but from the first time i saw POD, it had a grip on me, likely driven by the score. Love all three though, but i watch POD and ITMOM way more frequently than The Thing.

  • @edvaira6891
    @edvaira6891 День тому

    The Thing failing did not eliminate his chances with big budget films! While he got fired off of the 1984 version of firestarter, he moved fairly quickly into the $10 million budgeted Christine and the $20 million budgeted Starman the next two years… And then got $30 million to make Big trouble in little China… That movie flopping was what sent him back into independent film

  • @zaydk2196
    @zaydk2196 День тому

    Matt Draper dropping a new JC video essay. AMAZING!

  • @JohnathanJannenga69
    @JohnathanJannenga69 День тому

    I know I'm gonna watch over thirty times because I did the same with the gates of hell trilogy video ❤️

  • @razielgeist1400
    @razielgeist1400 День тому

    Interesting Theory... I have had a similar position regarding John Carpenter movies but my perspective is a little different. That is to say my movies are different. I truly believe he was exploring 3 possible theories on alien invasion
    - The Thing: Alien is hostile and malevolent
    - Starman: Alien is kind, curious and benevolent
    - They Live: Aliens are already here, already in control and living amongst us
    I think these are the 3 movies that are truly connected... just my 2 cents
    Thanks for the discussion 🙏

  • @iandawson6461
    @iandawson6461 День тому

    three films that informed the bulk of my love of horror films. From these came a love of Lovecraft and any storyteller (including King) that would explore the unknown, and leave us with the idea that we are smaller than we think and eerily close to madness.

  • @9594Jacob
    @9594Jacob День тому

    John Carpenter knows how make truly one of a kind of films for his time. A classic horror master.

  • @briankaplan6521
    @briankaplan6521 День тому

    Even though he didn't direct it, I always felt Halloween 3 fit in as the first part of this unofficial trilogy. It's got that Carpenter feel all over it, and him doing the soundtrack just makes it feel more like a Carpenter movie than The Thing. The Thing is a masterpiece though.

  • @karl_alan
    @karl_alan День тому

    Honestly don't know rhat i could chose a favorite from this trilogy, but each has a favorite of mine...for example, the thing has my favorite special effects of any movie, probably; mouth of madness has both my favorite comedic moment in a horror movie (everything blue scene) and one of my favorite Sam Neill performances (just behind Possession); and Prince of Darkness is probably my favorite mix of science and mythology, along with one of the creepiest bug moments in a movie in the "you're not going to like it" scene.

  • @jasondiasauthorpage615
    @jasondiasauthorpage615 19 годин тому

    It's hard to swallow the negative popular and critical reaction of The Thing at this remove. It's a wonderful piece of cinema beloved by a generation.

  • @Marb315
    @Marb315 День тому

    in 1982 John Carpenter released the best movie ever made and almost lost his career over it

  • @wolfishxwillow
    @wolfishxwillow 22 години тому

    What a great video! Loved seeing the three of these beside one another

  • @gorymarty56
    @gorymarty56 9 годин тому

    Prince of Darkness is my favorite of the 3

  • @NuclearBronsonRex
    @NuclearBronsonRex 11 годин тому

    Kurt's Russell is the best actir ever

  • @Rescoase
    @Rescoase 11 годин тому

    he should have directed hellraiser

  • @Markotraficante
    @Markotraficante День тому

    John Carpenters' real nickname is Lo Pan.

  • @bingerz237
    @bingerz237 День тому

    I think the idea of a faceless kind of amorphous evil that we can't fight is terrifying. It's something beyond us. Again, it goes to Lovecraft.

  • @FigmentForever
    @FigmentForever День тому

    John Carpenter has always been in my top 3 directors of all time. Prince of Darkness was one I slept on for years for some reason, but after picking up the scream factory Blu on a whim and one I always suggest to others. Donald Pleasance & Victor Wong from The Golden Child are so oddly cast but make the story so compelling I think it’s my favorite of his horror films (tied with The Thing). In The Mouth of Madness is one of the best Lovecraftian horror movies ever, and Sam Neill in the lead nails the role perfectly. The Thing was one of the first horror movies I watched with my dad & always holds a special place in my heart.

  • @newtypepunk9967
    @newtypepunk9967 День тому

    Obviously The Thing is the best out of these movies, but I have to tell you, Prince of Darkness freaked me out when I watched it in my younger days, it has this whole eerie feeling all the way through, very unsettling, I find mirrors themselves are a terrifying device if used well in horror. The Mouth of Madness you can't even tell what's real anymore, that dream effect, all 3 movies are very interesting in their own way. Nice video dude.

  • @KaliU-ix2kf
    @KaliU-ix2kf День тому

    The Thing
    True Masterpiece ❤

  • @NotIfICU1st_
    @NotIfICU1st_ День тому

    October came early!

  • @Nono-hk3is
    @Nono-hk3is День тому

    Thank you Matt!

  • @guilherme5094
    @guilherme5094 День тому

    👍Thanks!

  • @daraghflanagan2068
    @daraghflanagan2068 День тому

    i don't like the thing

  • @keiththorpe9571
    @keiththorpe9571 День тому

    6:27 "When the Thing takes you over, do you know you're The Thing?"
    In the novelization, there is an answer to that question: No, you don't know you're the alien. In order to be a perfect replication of its host, the alien isn't even aware of its own alien nature...until it is attacked and drawn out of hiding.