The aeroad is just a stunning weapon and looks the part! Still today it’s the most beautiful and powerful bike ✌️✌️✌️ s works is stunner too but it’s a compromised bike and not purebred thus I love the CFR.
Tires and wheels can significantly alter the character of a bike. I own a Canyon Aeroad equipped with DT Swiss ARC 1400 wheels (62mm deep), which are simply phenomenal for racing events-these deep aero wheels truly give you the sensation of speed. However, for daily use, I switch to Zipp 303 Firecrest wheels with 28mm tires, and I must say, the Aeroad feels like an entirely different bike. The most noticeable difference lies in the comfort, especially when riding on roads that aren’t in perfect condition. It’s comparable to the comfort of a gravel bike.
Yeah for sure mate - the DA C60's aren't the best wheelset in the world either. I can definitely appreciate that the Aeroad would be a great race bike ( ie, what it was designed for.. ). Its definitely rapid once upto speed! Thanks for watching.
I am riding the aeroad with sram rival, even though it doesnt accelerate quickly it iss so crazy fast on high speeds and not so steep inclines. I think the sworks is better for your lower back though and for climbing.
I haven't ridden the Aeroad that often, but hope to get the position dialled in so I can enjoy riding it this summer.... I agree it feels quick when you get it moving 👌. Thanks for watching 👍
I have an Aeroad, but I also have back problems🤣. I love the bike, but the seat tube is so dang stiff and the low stack height is hurting me. It's fine for a short crit or something, but anytime I get over 70-80 miles, my back is killing me. That said, I just bought the exact same SL8 Sworks frame you have. Waiting for it to come in so I can build it up. Hopefully my back will be better. I'm also putting on the SL7 and Zipp bars so I'll have more flexibility in the cockpit.
Enjoy the videos as always! Currently on an ultimate and did really consider the Aeroad as my next bike but for some reason the SL8 just moves me more Not that I’ve ridden either, mind you!
They're 2 great bikes mate, they just have different characteristics, so it really just depends what you're looking for. Hope the video was useful and thanks for watching 👍
i also had the aeroad and the sl7, but for me i've never felt dialed in on the canyon wich i've totaly have on the sl7. so i sold the aeroad and bought the sl8, best descision i've made so far this year
Similar for me so far, but I've not really given the Canyon a chance... Still in 2 minds where to go with it next... I'm split on whether I should try a new cockpit and tyres or just sell it and move on 🤔.... Thanks for watching 👍
great comparison, im glad i bought the sworks sl8. allthough i did never try the aeroad it was on my shortlist but after bianchi oltre, dogma f and cervelo s5 testrides i knew aerobikes are not for me. and the headtube detail you mentioned was the reason i pulled the trigger on the sl8. i can ride it slammed.
New subscriber and really enjoying the channel. Have gone back to the beginning and loved your honesty regarding alcohol. Massive kudos to you for making the change. Very similar to you I have ridden bikes all my life but after an accident I stopped in 2019, threw myself into work and family and over ate massively. Didn't like what I was as I'd always been fit, but last October decided enough was enough, bought a new bike a smart trainer and started the long road back. So will be following your journey closely. Well done Dave
Awesome mate, I love hearing stories like yours.... Keep me updated on your progress 👏👏👏 I'm absolutely 100% committed to not returning to old ways... Thanks for watching and the support 👍
I own a 2022 tarmac SL7 s-works and a 2023 trek madone slr gen7...ive road the canyon CFR and the Cervelo S5 ..out of all aero bikes i prefer the trek madone SLR..slightly lighter, design is sick, holds speeds and very very comfortable out of all aero bikes..this year it seems like the trek madone SLR is the underdog...lol...i would love to see the "Trek madone SLR" vs the "Canyon aeroad CFR" vs the "Cervelo S5"...
@daveridesagain it looks good but I'll wait to see what the test results say...lol..I don't know if it's a madone or an emonda..we will see soon..I like the light climbing bikes because theyre twitchy & nimble...but I love the aero bikes because they hold speed and are very fast top end
Good video to just get an overall idea but everyone is different and feelings are subjective. I would have liked to see some longer segment time numbers on flat and uphill. If these two bikes are that close in ride quality let’s not forget they are ~$5k apart in price.
Hey thanks for the message. I agree everyone has different requirements and this video was my feedback after riding both bikes…. The ride quality is very different on both bikes. The Aeroad is stiffer, heavier but more aero… it’s horses for courses, but for most of my riding the SL8 is better suited… in the UK the price difference of these 2 models is £2,500.. For that I get to test ride the bike pre purchase, customise the finishing touches and local dealer support. I think it’s important to factor this into the “package” when you’re looking to buy a bike. 👍
Have you tried the Aeroad with the Roval wheels yet Dave? Apologies for the obvious suggestion but that should give you a good idea for direction of mods and maybe see what that does to the ride feel.
Yeah, I thought about doing this mate... Not sure on the DA C60's currently fitted... They're pretty hefty... I'll be sure to update as I go. Thanks for watching 👍
I loved my Aeroad until the headset started having issues and the chainstay cracked. Canyon gave me a full refund...hoping the new models have fixed the issue. Mine was a '23 model.
I’d like to think I was ahead of the trends 😂… been running 30’s on my Sworks Roubaix for the last three years … continental gp’s with tubes at first, but since last year tubeless with Sworks Turbo’s. Much more tunability pressure wise with wider tubeless tyres. 😎👍
Great video for comparison, I’ve never had the chance to ride the SL8 or current Aeroad , they both seem like mighty beasts & you’re a lucky man to have such a predicament. 30 mm tyre definitely the way to go for comfort I’ve 30’s on my Cannondale but 28’s on both of my Pinarello’s . Keep up the good work and we all look forward to the next instalment of your progress, keep the rubber side down 👍🏽💪🏾
The bigger tyres has taken me a bit of time to get my head around but I'm a total convert now.... 28s in Spain, 30s for the UK 👌. Thanks for watching 👍
Tell you what I'll take the canyon off you I'll treat it nice I promise 😂 interesting view. I have always loved aero bikes just look fast and just want to fly along. But I have always wanted an S-Works. If the venge was still about would you of brought that instead of the canyon? My dream bike was the venge vias back in the day it looked so far ahead of the time.
Hey, no worries! When would you like to collect it 🤣🤣🤣 Yes the VENGE would have been my 1st choice, but as it no longer exists, the Aeroad was best of the rest... Be interesting to see if the Venge ever makes a comeback 🤔 Thanks for watching 👍
Great review and video as always 👍 try the rovals on the canyon see if that helps at all? I’d do that before spending any further money on cockpits or tyres 🤷♂️ I’m still on 25s on my tcr as the giant wheels are quite narrow. Time to change perhaps lol
Canyon being an online only retailer puts me off. Lovely bike but unless you know your stuff it’s a minefield. I’ve just took ownership of a giant tcr, so different ballpark to these two. Great video though 👍
Yep, online only definitely has some draw backs.... You can't argue with the savings on offer but if you get it wrong that all goes up in smoke.... TCR is a fantastic bike mate, I'm sure you'll enjoy getting the miles in on it this summer 😎 Thanks for watching 👍
Hey, thanks for the message. Canyon claim to have designed the Aeroad around the 25/28mm split tyre set up, so I tested as designed in this instance... I knew the tyres would make a big difference and intend changing on the Aeroad to 30mm... I'll be sure to give an update when I've done this 👍 Thanks for watching.
@@daveridesagain Thanks for the msg. I think I've read also that Specialized claimed to have designed the Tarmac around the stock 26mm tires too? Looking forward to the update. Thanks.
Ive been looking for a replacement of my XL TCR and the canyons are really stretched out, unless you look at the endurance range, Look have some reasonable geometry. Also Merida Reacto is about the same as The Giant TCR or Propel
The Canyons are definitely at the extreme end of the geo scale... It's basically full pro spec geo - long and low, whereas alot of other brands have mellowed out there geo slightly, probably to suit regular riders better... Thanks for watching 👍
Great comparison, one super weird quesion... what brand are the pants ? :D I used to buy these for like 10 years from Celio and they discontinued it some years ago and I still can't find out anyone elese making these stretchy sweatpants like "jeans". Thanks! ;)
@@StopTheRot I wanted to test both bikes as they came… I did plan on doing a follow up, but unfortunately it didn’t materialise… Update on the Canyon coming soon though… Thanks for watching.
Amazing channel Dave, love the content, when you do local rides can you put the route down in the links. Also what’s your views on e- bikes, planning on looking at one tomorrow
E-Bikes are great... If it means you're riding more and enjoying the bike, then happy days. My only advice would be to buy from a reputable brand and ideally a local retailer.... You'll likey need their support at some point... Thanks for watching 👍
Loved this video, very informative, you got a new sub! I'm looking to get a first carbon bike soon (I hope) and my local bike shop got a deal on a Madone, I do not race, so it is a shallow look-based appearl on my side (think Ferrari :D) the logic would be to look at a Tarmac SL8 or even a better match for what I do an endurance bike. However, what got me bike into riding is the exciting feel of a race bike, I'm a sports car fan after all! Not sure I can transpose all of what you said about the Aeroad to the Madone, but when you say that the Tarmac is almost better in most category it gives me food for thoughts. I'll have to try to find a way to test ride both before I take the plunge (hopefully this year). Cheers
Hey thanks for the message 😊 I bought the Aeroad for the same reasons you mention... I like to ride fast (ish) and enjoy pushing myself... For everything I do, the Tarmac is perfect 👌 Definitely try to test a couple of bikes... I've not ridden a Madone, but expect it will be a stiffer ride and it's definitely a fair wedge heavier than something like the Tarmac... Whatever you buy, enjoy it 😊... Thanks for the sub 👍
Hello mate.ive just noticed that you dont have any spacers under the tarmac stem.they provide 3.5cm spacers under stem.so if you have a full spacers under the tarmac stem how would hou then compare the hight of the handlebars of the two?i would choose more relaxed geometry
The bar height on the Tarmac is fine mate. I managed to get the Aeroad to a similar height once I understood how it worked. The geo on the Aeroad is definitely more aggressive than the Tarmac though. Thanks for watching.
I tried 30mm for one ride then changed all my bikes to 30mm ..like going from rim to disc .. I wouldn’t go back to skinny tyres ..faster, more comfortable, lower tyre pressures
6:40 you say the Stack (Headtube) is "much lower" on the Canyon, but when comparing the Geo tables for example in size Medium / 56 it´s only 5mm difference. This is half a spacer!
Hey thanks for the message. It’s a while since I did this one but you just sent me to the garage to double check 🤔. I have both bikes here. The headtube on the SL8 in 56cm is 10mm higher than on the medium Aeroad, so it’s a decent amount. The Aeroad is longer and lower generally, so more aggressive. Maybe that is the ideal set up for the rider looking at this bike though… Thanks for watching 😊
@@daveridesagain Thanks for the real life measurement! That´s interesting, because I read the geo tables of both bikes from the manufacturers websites and the Canyon should be only 5mm lower and identical in reach (how long the frame is compared to the BB). So, this means that there is a difference between theoeretical data and real life data. Interesting, especially when you can´t test ride the bike before because it´s online only like Canyon. P.S.: You have to meaure the headtube in relation to the bottom braket, not in relation to the ground. Just to be on the safe side if the BBs aren´t at the same location. BB is always the starting point and the saddle and handle bars are in realation to it.
I've never had a 54 mate, always a 56... At 5'10" I can get away with either, but generally find the geo on a 56 suits that little bit better. Thanks for watching 👍
@@daveridesagain I've had loads of different bike fits and it's always niggled away at me, I'm just over 5ft10, just out of curiosity what's your saddle height? really impressed with the channel now btw 👍
@@s1ngularityxd64 it is hard to believe… It’s more than stiff enough for me… For the weight the stiffness of the SL8 is incredible.. Much stiffer than you’d think by just looking at the frame… 👍
Both lovely bikes but as a spesh fan boy s works everytime the 2020 s works venge disc was great could still climb tried canyon once went straight back to S works long geometry on canyons didn’t suit me
@@daveridesagain yip I had s works venge disc s works sl6 team bike venge looked the dogs but I prefer my baby venge s works sl7 I’d take a project black sl8 s works FRAMESET or a trinity racing s works sl8 pinky frame 😜
Oh man that was so close to Awesome. But this is like comparing a Lamborghini and a Ferrari but putting snow tires on the Lamborghini. Throw the Rovels on there and just compare the frames. Please I’m begging you. I’m literally choose in between these two bikes. And I’ll be putting Enve’s on either way.
@@benmiller388 thank you mate. I’ve since sold the Aeroad… agree the wheels were a big factor though…. Still think I’d have swayed towards the SL8 regardless… 😎
@@daveridesagain you just came up in feed. I have no idea about your videos, but really well produced good length. Good job. I’m on the pinnarello F12 now. The bike with 25s in the bike with 30s is two completely different bikes. In my opinion there’s no such thing as a rough riding road bike with 30s. So it just comes down to snap and top speed and I guess which one you favor more. Did you put both of them into the corners pretty hard? Did they feel the same in the corners?
@@benmiller388 thanks 🙏 Yeah I agree… I ride 30’s on everything here in the UK and no going back… The tube profiles on the Aeroad will undoubtedly provide less compliance than the SL8, but like you say bigger tyres will negate some of this.. I think the biggest that would fit on this gen Aeroad was 28… The SL8 is noticeably lighter, it’s more agile and more responsive… The Aeroad was rapid once you got it going… I rode the bikes pretty hard, didn’t really notice any huge difference in cornering…. I don’t race these days and the SL8 is better suited the riding I do…. Horses for courses though… 👍
2 years in with my aeroad and I’m still in love
Awesome 🙌. It’s a great bike, I just prefer the SL8. Just my opinion though.
Thanks for watching. 👍
The aeroad is just a stunning weapon and looks the part! Still today it’s the most beautiful and powerful bike ✌️✌️✌️ s works is stunner too but it’s a compromised bike and not purebred thus I love the CFR.
Totally agree about 30mm tires. Swapped to tubeless 30mm this year and they are a game changer. My bike is so much more comfortable to ride now.,
Exactly mate and they're also faster so it's a win, win 😁
Thanks for watching 👍
Would definitely like to see a review of the Aeroad with some wider tyres. Great video as always mate!
Thanks mate... I'm going to try 30's, see how much of a difference it makes 😊
Aeroad is the girl from the gym. Tarmac is the girl from church
Tires and wheels can significantly alter the character of a bike. I own a Canyon Aeroad equipped with DT Swiss ARC 1400 wheels (62mm deep), which are simply phenomenal for racing events-these deep aero wheels truly give you the sensation of speed. However, for daily use, I switch to Zipp 303 Firecrest wheels with 28mm tires, and I must say, the Aeroad feels like an entirely different bike. The most noticeable difference lies in the comfort, especially when riding on roads that aren’t in perfect condition. It’s comparable to the comfort of a gravel bike.
Yeah for sure mate - the DA C60's aren't the best wheelset in the world either. I can definitely appreciate that the Aeroad would be a great race bike ( ie, what it was designed for.. ). Its definitely rapid once upto speed! Thanks for watching.
I am riding the aeroad with sram rival, even though it doesnt accelerate quickly it iss so crazy fast on high speeds and not so steep inclines. I think the sworks is better for your lower back though and for climbing.
I haven't ridden the Aeroad that often, but hope to get the position dialled in so I can enjoy riding it this summer.... I agree it feels quick when you get it moving 👌.
Thanks for watching 👍
I have an Aeroad, but I also have back problems🤣. I love the bike, but the seat tube is so dang stiff and the low stack height is hurting me. It's fine for a short crit or something, but anytime I get over 70-80 miles, my back is killing me. That said, I just bought the exact same SL8 Sworks frame you have. Waiting for it to come in so I can build it up. Hopefully my back will be better. I'm also putting on the SL7 and Zipp bars so I'll have more flexibility in the cockpit.
Enjoy the videos as always! Currently on an ultimate and did really consider the Aeroad as my next bike but for some reason the SL8 just moves me more
Not that I’ve ridden either, mind you!
They're 2 great bikes mate, they just have different characteristics, so it really just depends what you're looking for.
Hope the video was useful and thanks for watching 👍
i also had the aeroad and the sl7, but for me i've never felt dialed in on the canyon wich i've totaly have on the sl7. so i sold the aeroad and bought the sl8, best descision i've made so far this year
Similar for me so far, but I've not really given the Canyon a chance... Still in 2 minds where to go with it next... I'm split on whether I should try a new cockpit and tyres or just sell it and move on 🤔....
Thanks for watching 👍
I think the aeroad is faster on the flat roads and a bit more harsh, and the sl8 better on the climbs
@@MsPietpaaltjes it depends of wheel choice and body position
great comparison, im glad i bought the sworks sl8. allthough i did never try the aeroad it was on my shortlist but after bianchi oltre, dogma f and cervelo s5 testrides i knew aerobikes are not for me. and the headtube detail you mentioned was the reason i pulled the trigger on the sl8. i can ride it slammed.
Awesome mate. The SL8 is such a great bike! The slammed set up looks so clean 👌
Thanks for watching 👍
New subscriber and really enjoying the channel. Have gone back to the beginning and loved your honesty regarding alcohol. Massive kudos to you for making the change. Very similar to you I have ridden bikes all my life but after an accident I stopped in 2019, threw myself into work and family and over ate massively. Didn't like what I was as I'd always been fit, but last October decided enough was enough, bought a new bike a smart trainer and started the long road back. So will be following your journey closely. Well done Dave
Awesome mate, I love hearing stories like yours.... Keep me updated on your progress 👏👏👏
I'm absolutely 100% committed to not returning to old ways...
Thanks for watching and the support 👍
I own a 2022 tarmac SL7 s-works and a 2023 trek madone slr gen7...ive road the canyon CFR and the Cervelo S5 ..out of all aero bikes i prefer the trek madone SLR..slightly lighter, design is sick, holds speeds and very very comfortable out of all aero bikes..this year it seems like the trek madone SLR is the underdog...lol...i would love to see the "Trek madone SLR" vs the "Canyon aeroad CFR" vs the "Cervelo S5"...
Hey thanks for the message. The Madone looks great. What’s your thought on the new model which was leaked last week?
@daveridesagain it looks good but I'll wait to see what the test results say...lol..I don't know if it's a madone or an emonda..we will see soon..I like the light climbing bikes because theyre twitchy & nimble...but I love the aero bikes because they hold speed and are very fast top end
Tarmac sl7 is not an aero bike.
@czts4778 ??? I never said the Sl7 was an aero bike..I was comparing a climber which is slight aero vs a full official aero bike 🤔🤔
Good video to just get an overall idea but everyone is different and feelings are subjective. I would have liked to see some longer segment time numbers on flat and uphill.
If these two bikes are that close in ride quality let’s not forget they are ~$5k apart in price.
Hey thanks for the message. I agree everyone has different requirements and this video was my feedback after riding both bikes…. The ride quality is very different on both bikes. The Aeroad is stiffer, heavier but more aero… it’s horses for courses, but for most of my riding the SL8 is better suited… in the UK the price difference of these 2 models is £2,500.. For that I get to test ride the bike pre purchase, customise the finishing touches and local dealer support. I think it’s important to factor this into the “package” when you’re looking to buy a bike. 👍
Have you tried the Aeroad with the Roval wheels yet Dave? Apologies for the obvious suggestion but that should give you a good idea for direction of mods and maybe see what that does to the ride feel.
Yeah, I thought about doing this mate... Not sure on the DA C60's currently fitted... They're pretty hefty... I'll be sure to update as I go.
Thanks for watching 👍
I loved my Aeroad until the headset started having issues and the chainstay cracked. Canyon gave me a full refund...hoping the new models have fixed the issue. Mine was a '23 model.
Ah sorry to hear that mate... Sounds like you were unlucky and fingers crossed I don't have similar issues 🤞
Thanks for watching 👍
Great video. Super helpful.
Where do you buy a replacement cockpit for the canyon?
Thank you mate.
Direct from Canyon 👍
I’d like to think I was ahead of the trends 😂… been running 30’s on my Sworks Roubaix for the last three years … continental gp’s with tubes at first, but since last year tubeless with Sworks Turbo’s. Much more tunability pressure wise with wider tubeless tyres. 😎👍
I've slowly made the switch... I couldn't get my head around it at 1st, but now there's no going back.
Thanks for watching 👍
Great video for comparison, I’ve never had the chance to ride the SL8 or current Aeroad , they both seem like mighty beasts & you’re a lucky man to have such a predicament. 30 mm tyre definitely the way to go for comfort I’ve 30’s on my Cannondale but 28’s on both of my Pinarello’s . Keep up the good work and we all look forward to the next instalment of your progress, keep the rubber side down 👍🏽💪🏾
The bigger tyres has taken me a bit of time to get my head around but I'm a total convert now.... 28s in Spain, 30s for the UK 👌.
Thanks for watching 👍
Tell you what I'll take the canyon off you I'll treat it nice I promise 😂 interesting view. I have always loved aero bikes just look fast and just want to fly along. But I have always wanted an S-Works. If the venge was still about would you of brought that instead of the canyon? My dream bike was the venge vias back in the day it looked so far ahead of the time.
Hey, no worries! When would you like to collect it 🤣🤣🤣
Yes the VENGE would have been my 1st choice, but as it no longer exists, the Aeroad was best of the rest...
Be interesting to see if the Venge ever makes a comeback 🤔
Thanks for watching 👍
Dave thanks I’ve been waiting for this review as was thinking of buying an Aeroad Thanks for sharing your thoughts .
Keep up the great work
Thanks mate, hope you found it useful 👍
Great review and video as always 👍 try the rovals on the canyon see if that helps at all? I’d do that before spending any further money on cockpits or tyres 🤷♂️ I’m still on 25s on my tcr as the giant wheels are quite narrow. Time to change perhaps lol
Hey Greg, thanks for watching...
Yes, I think swapping out the wheels is a good shout mate. I'm going to give that a go before I ride it next. 👍
@@daveridesagain health to enjoy them both 👍👍
Canyon being an online only retailer puts me off. Lovely bike but unless you know your stuff it’s a minefield.
I’ve just took ownership of a giant tcr, so different ballpark to these two. Great video though 👍
Yep, online only definitely has some draw backs.... You can't argue with the savings on offer but if you get it wrong that all goes up in smoke....
TCR is a fantastic bike mate, I'm sure you'll enjoy getting the miles in on it this summer 😎
Thanks for watching 👍
doesn't seem fair that you changed the stock tire sizes for the tarmac but not the aeroad, local bike shop or not.
sworks tarmacs come stock with roval rapide or alpinist.
Hey, thanks for the message.
Canyon claim to have designed the Aeroad around the 25/28mm split tyre set up, so I tested as designed in this instance... I knew the tyres would make a big difference and intend changing on the Aeroad to 30mm... I'll be sure to give an update when I've done this 👍
Thanks for watching.
@@daveridesagain Thanks for the msg. I think I've read also that Specialized claimed to have designed the Tarmac around the stock 26mm tires too? Looking forward to the update. Thanks.
S-Works looks so cool
Yeah, I'm a fan 😁....
Thanks for watching 👍
Ive been looking for a replacement of my XL TCR and the canyons are really stretched out, unless you look at the endurance range, Look have some reasonable geometry. Also Merida Reacto is about the same as The Giant TCR or Propel
The Canyons are definitely at the extreme end of the geo scale... It's basically full pro spec geo - long and low, whereas alot of other brands have mellowed out there geo slightly, probably to suit regular riders better...
Thanks for watching 👍
Great comparison, one super weird quesion... what brand are the pants ? :D I used to buy these for like 10 years from Celio and they discontinued it some years ago and I still can't find out anyone elese making these stretchy sweatpants like "jeans". Thanks! ;)
Haha... no worries ....
They're just some cheapos from Asos mate.
Thanks for watching 👍
Given the effort to test, film, and upload, it might have been worth switching the wheels to see what difference that made?
@@StopTheRot I wanted to test both bikes as they came… I did plan on doing a follow up, but unfortunately it didn’t materialise… Update on the Canyon coming soon though… Thanks for watching.
Amazing channel Dave, love the content, when you do local rides can you put the route down in the links.
Also what’s your views on e- bikes, planning on looking at one tomorrow
E-Bikes are great... If it means you're riding more and enjoying the bike, then happy days. My only advice would be to buy from a reputable brand and ideally a local retailer.... You'll likey need their support at some point...
Thanks for watching 👍
Interesting watch , 👍out of Interest, if you change your mind about the aeroad-what size is it🤔😂 .
Medium mate...
Thanks for watching 👍
@@daveridesagain was hoping you were going to say small - never mind - some good content 👌
@breers33 thanks mate 👊
SL8 S-Works is the one 👌 great review 👏
It's an incredible bike 😎...
Thanks for watching 👍
Loved this video, very informative, you got a new sub! I'm looking to get a first carbon bike soon (I hope) and my local bike shop got a deal on a Madone, I do not race, so it is a shallow look-based appearl on my side (think Ferrari :D) the logic would be to look at a Tarmac SL8 or even a better match for what I do an endurance bike. However, what got me bike into riding is the exciting feel of a race bike, I'm a sports car fan after all! Not sure I can transpose all of what you said about the Aeroad to the Madone, but when you say that the Tarmac is almost better in most category it gives me food for thoughts. I'll have to try to find a way to test ride both before I take the plunge (hopefully this year). Cheers
Hey thanks for the message 😊
I bought the Aeroad for the same reasons you mention... I like to ride fast (ish) and enjoy pushing myself... For everything I do, the Tarmac is perfect 👌
Definitely try to test a couple of bikes... I've not ridden a Madone, but expect it will be a stiffer ride and it's definitely a fair wedge heavier than something like the Tarmac...
Whatever you buy, enjoy it 😊...
Thanks for the sub 👍
Hello mate.ive just noticed that you dont have any spacers under the tarmac stem.they provide 3.5cm spacers under stem.so if you have a full spacers under the tarmac stem how would hou then compare the hight of the handlebars of the two?i would choose more relaxed geometry
The bar height on the Tarmac is fine mate. I managed to get the Aeroad to a similar height once I understood how it worked. The geo on the Aeroad is definitely more aggressive than the Tarmac though. Thanks for watching.
Dave have you got both saddles at the same angle? Tarmac looks much more tilted down ?
Yes mate, I set them both up with a level.... You got me thinking, I should maybe check to make sure they haven't slipped 🤔...
Thanks for watching 👍
I tried 30mm for one ride then changed all my bikes to 30mm ..like going from rim to disc .. I wouldn’t go back to skinny tyres ..faster, more comfortable, lower tyre pressures
Exactly mate, you know the craic 👍
6:40 you say the Stack (Headtube) is "much lower" on the Canyon, but when comparing the Geo tables for example in size Medium / 56 it´s only 5mm difference. This is half a spacer!
Hey thanks for the message. It’s a while since I did this one but you just sent me to the garage to double check 🤔. I have both bikes here. The headtube on the SL8 in 56cm is 10mm higher than on the medium Aeroad, so it’s a decent amount. The Aeroad is longer and lower generally, so more aggressive. Maybe that is the ideal set up for the rider looking at this bike though… Thanks for watching 😊
@@daveridesagain Thanks for the real life measurement! That´s interesting, because I read the geo tables of both bikes from the manufacturers websites and the Canyon should be only 5mm lower and identical in reach (how long the frame is compared to the BB). So, this means that there is a difference between theoeretical data and real life data. Interesting, especially when you can´t test ride the bike before because it´s online only like Canyon.
P.S.: You have to meaure the headtube in relation to the bottom braket, not in relation to the ground. Just to be on the safe side if the BBs aren´t at the same location. BB is always the starting point and the saddle and handle bars are in realation to it.
always thought you rode a 54 frame size? I'm right on the cusp of 54/56
I've never had a 54 mate, always a 56... At 5'10" I can get away with either, but generally find the geo on a 56 suits that little bit better.
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@@daveridesagain I've had loads of different bike fits and it's always niggled away at me, I'm just over 5ft10, just out of curiosity what's your saddle height? really impressed with the channel now btw 👍
Great video
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Price is an important factor here as well.
can't believe tarmac comes even close in stiffness, especially the bottom bracket area where not much material can be found on the tarmac sl8.
@@s1ngularityxd64 it is hard to believe… It’s more than stiff enough for me… For the weight the stiffness of the SL8 is incredible.. Much stiffer than you’d think by just looking at the frame… 👍
Both lovely bikes but as a spesh fan boy s works everytime the 2020 s works venge disc was great could still climb tried canyon once went straight back to S works long geometry on canyons didn’t suit me
I'm with you mate - I never owned a Venge.. Would have loved one!! Hopefully it'll make a comeback one day..
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@@daveridesagain yip I had s works venge disc s works sl6 team bike venge looked the dogs but I prefer my baby venge s works sl7 I’d take a project black sl8 s works FRAMESET or a trinity racing s works sl8 pinky frame 😜
Oh man that was so close to Awesome. But this is like comparing a Lamborghini and a Ferrari but putting snow tires on the Lamborghini.
Throw the Rovels on there and just compare the frames. Please I’m begging you. I’m literally choose in between these two bikes. And I’ll be putting Enve’s on either way.
@@benmiller388 thank you mate. I’ve since sold the Aeroad… agree the wheels were a big factor though…. Still think I’d have swayed towards the SL8 regardless… 😎
@@daveridesagain you just came up in feed. I have no idea about your videos, but really well produced good length. Good job.
I’m on the pinnarello F12 now. The bike with 25s in the bike with 30s is two completely different bikes. In my opinion there’s no such thing as a rough riding road bike with 30s. So it just comes down to snap and top speed and I guess which one you favor more. Did you put both of them into the corners pretty hard? Did they feel the same in the corners?
@@benmiller388 thanks 🙏
Yeah I agree… I ride 30’s on everything here in the UK and no going back…
The tube profiles on the Aeroad will undoubtedly provide less compliance than the SL8, but like you say bigger tyres will negate some of this.. I think the biggest that would fit on this gen Aeroad was 28…
The SL8 is noticeably lighter, it’s more agile and more responsive… The Aeroad was rapid once you got it going… I rode the bikes pretty hard, didn’t really notice any huge difference in cornering….
I don’t race these days and the SL8 is better suited the riding I do…. Horses for courses though… 👍
can’t be sure of your results here Dave mate buy me an sl7 and ill report back with my findings
Sounds like a great plan 🤣🤣🤣
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Definitely faster too. Even for an old diesel like me 😂
Amazing I got a similar cycling channel
Awesome 👍
Specialized make some very good bikes but I could never buy anything from them. They're just a very aggressive, litigious company.
you may want to use a better way to record your voice.
Great video
Thanks!