I love how duke carries around a gun for "protection" but not an epi pen, this movie is great at giving you subtle details that give so much personality to each character.
Duke not having an EpiPen was one of the countless stupid and unbelievable contrivances in Glass Onion. All the “characters” are ridiculous caricatures, with Duke obviously being how Roundhead Rian imagines the “internet trolls” who (justifiably) criticize him for his abortion: The Last Jedi. Duke being the one that died implies that’s what Rian wishes for his critics, exposing him as a petty lil’ snowflake!
I love how the mystery of this one both stands on its own, but also plays on the expectations if you saw the first. Like Blanc, you go in expecting this wild intricate master plan and… it’s just so simple and dumb.
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Me going up to the creators of She Hulk. Me:"It's so dumb" Creators: "it's so dumb it's brilliant..." Me: NO!!!!! It's just dumb!!!
Yep. But just brilliantly played by Kate Hudson. She's one of those characters that if you knew her in real life you'd find her annoying as f'ck. But as a character in a movie she's so funny you almost like her.
The way I see it, Knives Out is an homage to murder mysteries with several fun twists, and Glass Onion is a farce of a murder mystery (in a good way!) where the twist is that there is no twist because not everyone is a criminal mastermind lol.
Yeah, I picked up on that, I mean that the twist is not about the killer. The case is a glass onion, it appears to have layers of complexity but it's all see though right to the center. The billionaire is the obvious choice but we dismiss it early on because it is so obvious and "no one's that dumb".
@@72Guyman yeah Blanc says he's "bad at dumb stuff," lead astray by the simplicity. And let's be fair, this is a movie, in real life Blanc would suck as a Detective, because WE ARE BENOIT BLANC, *WE* look for the complexity where it isn't. Most police work is quite straightforward, as are people's motives and actions. Most crimes are Glass Onions, the real challenge a lot of times is proving the facts in a Court of Law and getting a conviction. Which is why we escape to the (very well made) fantasy that are the Knives Out movies and related. It doesn't have to be realistic to be plausible, believable and fun.
Something I never put together myself... Derol is a constant presence, insisting "ignore me!" and eventually he just becomes part of the landscape. He only appears after everyone has removed their masks. And every time he appears, he's carrying/drinking/holding a bottle of Corona. Ergo, DEROL IS COVID.
Nah, he's just that loser guy that some rich dudes have staying with them, usually in a pool house or something. He's Kato Kaelin and Miles Bron is OJ Simpson.
Whoever is responsible for the casting in the Knives Out franchise deserves all the praise. I like the cast of the first movie just a tad better, but Glass Onion's cast is just so much fun and every actor is just perfect for the role, especially Daniel Craig's Benoit Blanc, who might be the biggest discovery of Rian Johnson's career.
Having celebrities on the zoom call lends more weight to the idea that Benoit Blanc really is a celebrity detective who would be recognized by the rest of the characters.
That makes sense. The concept of the celebrity detective is a genre trope, but not a very credible one in my experience. (Law-enforcement professionals might be familiar with great detectives by reputation, but the public are not.) And establishing Blanc's celebrity status is important for the plot in the story more than in Knives Out - not just in the positive reception he gets from Miles but in the fact that they let him on the boat. It's true that he was carrying Andi's invitation, but it seemed like he didn't need it. He was swept into the group on the dock without question because everyone thought it was just like Miles to surround himself with the most famous people in every capacity.
Ethan Hawke was in this because of Moon Knight. He was nearby filming in Hungary, the director gave him a call and asked him if he wanted to do a quick day of work on the movie. Hawke thought it would be fun and that is how his cameo came to be
Interestingly that's similar to how Chris Evans' cameo in Free Guy happened as well. He was filming "Defending Jacob" nearby in Boston and Ryan Reynolds contacted him thinking it would be good fun. Evans' schedule was so tight that it had to be a quick 10 minutes then he was out of there.
I just love how ethan hawke just comes along lol if the moon knight's story is true, that Oscar Issac reached out to him in a cafe to get him in the series
You know how Miles made that speech about Disruptors? Well Helen's act in the final scene shows that compared to Mile's little group of pretenders, she herself is the true disruptor, by willingly destroying the Mona Lisa just to give Miles his comeuppance.
Exactly! She follows the script. She breaks small things. They don't mind. They even join in - excited by busting up something they are kind of tired of anyway. But then she crosses a line. And they're telling her to stop. But she doesn't. And then she does the gesture... and breaks the system that nobody wants broken. Drinking glass. Sculptures. Artifacts. Fire. Explosion. Fingers crossed.... Mona Lisa. Disruption. Of Miles Bron.
Completely agree. :) With one exception: I don't think it was _just_ to give Miles his comeuppance. The reason Andi (the real Andi) walked away in the first place, was that Klear, as it was presented in the movie, was going to kill lots of people. And destroying the Mona Lisa was... probably the only thing that actually would have stopped Miles, because he was just too powerful, and everybody else there was too much of a coward to go against him, even though it was going to kill people. It was only when Miles destroyed the Mona Lisa (Helen may have pushed the override, but Miles was the one who had the audacity to install an override in the first place, so in my book, he's at least as culpable as Helen), and the others realized he was going down, that they stopped supporting him. That's what it took. _And_ it gave Miles his comeuppance. :)
Angela Lansbury being in on the zoom call was a call back to the fact that she played a character who also solved mysteries (murder she wrote). I think this was the last role she did also.
Stephen Sondheim wrote a murder mystery movie with Anthony Perkins. Kareem Abdul Jabar writes Sherlock Holmes books. Natasha Lyonne is in Poker Face on which Rian Johnson is a director.
I was so impressed with Janelle when I considered she was basically playing three characters (Andi, Helen and Helen pretending to be Andi). I need to see more of her.
Natalie, to your point about the Among Us scene; the casting was purposeful. All are/were somehow involved with fictional mysteries in some form of media as authors and actors, but they, unlike Benoit, were presumably good at mystery games and Benoit confessed he stunk at them. I think it's funny that, in this world, the real life detective is quickly defeated by those who work in fiction. I don't think it would work as well with "unknowns" like you prefer. Plus, Sondheim helped write the mystery movie (The Last of Sheila) that Rian has said has great importance to him. I get what you're saying, but being mad at us getting what I think was Angela Lansbury's last acting role, the person who was and may still be seen as the "queen of cozy mysteries" to many; I'm glad to see her this last time. Bonus for Rian, Natasha is on his new mystery mini-series, so you have the old and the new. All together, I think it pays off with the discussion about how he doesn't do well playing Clue; it's just showing what he'll tell us later.
Not only Rian Johnson himself, but several Knives Out cast members said in interviews that The Last of Sheila was the model they aspired to emulate; it's probably the cleverest murder mystery ever written for the screen (as opposed to adapted from some other medium) and I really wish we would get some reactions to it. More people need to be made aware of this truly great murder mystery, which every mystery fan I know holds in the same regard that I do and that Rian Johnson does. By the way, another movie with a great Edward Norton role is The Score, starring Robert De Niro and featuring Marlon Brando and Angela Bassett.
At first, I wasn't sold on the ending but now that I know what Helen did is exactly what Miles describes what a disruptor does "start somewhere small, and keep doing that until others join you". She starts small by smashing the glass statues and keeps going until the whole glass onion is "disrupted".
Same. I didn't understand why she did it. I thought it was just her losing her temper, but after being reminded of Miles' speech it made perfect sense.
The significance of why the 4 people on the zoom call are who they are is specific. Angela Lansbury was on "Murder, She Wrote" which was a huge influence on Writer/Director Rian Johnson. Stephen Sondheim co-wrote the script to a murder mystery called "The Last of Sheila" that this movie borrows heavily from. Natasha Lyon is on "Poker Face", a mystery show Rian Johnson created that just debuted. And K.A.J. is an avid fan of games like D&D and such so he would be doing stuff like this during the pandemic.
@@Raven9940 I didn't remember that initially but a friend who has read the books reminded me when we watched the film. They're quite good by most accounts...
What I love about the puzzle box is that all of the ways to open it were really basic and obvious, its not that the mom is a genius is that theyre all over thinking the box bc they see miles as a super genius and not an idiot
Miles' speech on disruption: You want to shake things up, you start with something small. You break a norm, an idea, a convention. Some little business model. But you go with things that people are kind of tired of anyway. Everyone gets excited because you're busting up something that everyone wanted broken in the first place. That's the infraction point. That's where you ask yourself "Am I the kind of person who will keep going?". Will you break more things? Break bigger things? Are you willing to break THE thing that nobody wants you to break? And that's exactly what Helen did. First the crystal statues. Then everyone else starts breaking statues. Then the fireplace. Then the piano. Then the whole building, and then the thing that nobody wanted her to break: The Mona Lisa. It's entirely epic.
It really isn't. I found this movie incredibly convoluted. That speech felt more like Rian Johnson jerking himself off with his methodology of how he subverts every genre movie he does. It felt very self-congratulatory. Knives Out was great and the ensemble cast was far superior, but this one tries to hard and fails to make an interesting mystery. And before you say "that's the point", I know and I'm not gonna give him a free pass for making a subpar story because it's "supposed to be". She Hulk tried the same gimmick. Being self aware that you're bad isn't a pass for being bad.
I love that in the flashback, Benoit says that Miles Bron isn't an idiot, then later says Miles Bron is an idiot. And the continuing of him taking peoples ideas. First the napkin, then Benoit's about the lights, and then Lionel's about burning the original. Then there's Helen doing what her sister threatened in the email by literally burning his entire empire to the ground. There was so much foreshadowing throughout the movie but it was done so well
I think the whole thing of Benoit thinking Miles wasn't and idiot at the start the realising he is an idiot who just steals other people's ideas and pays other people for their ideas is also a nod to how the world treats people like this in the real world. We assume these rich people with their big companies must be really smart to have all this but when you get to know them you realise they are idiots living off other peoples ideas. Miles clearly represents the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg.
The zoom call was with 4 famous people who wrote or will be in murder mystery stories and the whole point was establishing that Blanc is terrible at simple puzzles and over looks them for more complex solutions. And Miles being obvious is the whole point! This movie shines on the rewatch because **everything** pointing to miles is shown on screen. The glass, the gun, phone, all of it.
Also pretty sure this was both Angela Lansbury's and Stephen Sondheim's last appearance in a film? (Sondheim actually has a few upcoming credits as music and lyrics, but as for an actor appearance, this is his last)
It's not just the book that stops the bullet, the glass would have been expensive storm glass (toughned/reinforced glass) which would have also helped to dissipate some of the energy from the bullet
I love how the side characters like the scientist Lionel was talking to in the beginning and the boat driver basically outright showed us how much of an idiot Miles actually is and we just missed it.
My favorite little detail of this movie is how much the characters are defined by the masks they wear when they show up to the docks. Lionel, Claire, and Benoit are wearing serious, quality masks that are professional and effective; Birdie wearing the useless little lace thing that is all style, no substance; and the toxic buffoon who carries his “protection” everywhere to feel safe, of course, has no mask at all.
And Claire wears it under her nose. Because she's a politician, she's just wearing it because "she is supposed to", not because she actually cares about covid
I think it's good that this series is starting by setting a standard that tells us that the stories are willing to be different. I hope it becomes a long series of mystery movies, because this genre is so under-served these days. I love mystery movies where you can actually figure it out. I'd hate if the twist was so twisty that it's impossible to figure out. In Glass Onion they had really cool moments like you can see the gun in MIles' hand while he's walking down the hallway in the dark, but only for a couple frames. Same with you can actually see Miles hand over his drinking glass. But when someone tells a story the flashbacks will be edited to reflect the person's interpretation of events. I don't mind that Glass Onion is less-good than Knives out. A series needs to start strong, after all. I think it's a really bad mentality we have these days to expect a movie to be better than all it's previous versions. I'm happy with Glass Onion as an entry in the Knives out series.
I loved this movie. I think Knives Out is better though. With this movie, I think the twist is better but because Knives Out was such a surprise deconstruction, the twist lands better there than here. Here I was expecting this caliber of twist. Things about this movie: -The override button isn't just a joker, it's a “Fool on a Hill” because that’s what Miles is. And a bunch of the statues in the living room references the songs mentioned in the Beatles song Glass Onion -It takes Blanc so long to figure out the mystery because he is "very bad at dumb things." -The Beatles song Glass Onion is about people over analyzing the lyrics to Beatles songs. -Helen being the only disruptor and destroying the Glass Onion is foreshadowed at the beginning because she straight up destroys the box instead of playing Miles' game -Helen and Andi part their hair on opposite sides, like Christopher Reeves did when playing Superman and Clark Kent. -The names Helen and Cassandra refer to Greek mythology. Cassandra was Paris' sister who could see the future. She predicted that Helen would burn down Troy but no one believed her. -Daryl played by the fanboy state trooper from Knives Out
I love that the reveals at the end actually occurred in the film, they were just irrelevant or overlookable. Yeah, it was pretty apparent when Miles talked over Duke when he was talking about seeing him outside of Andi's place the other night. But you can also see Miles handing Duke his glass, you can see Duke's phone in Miles's back pocket, you can see Helen tossing the recorder into Birdie's bag. And the moment before she gets shot, Benoit actually calls her "Helen", which was a total wait-what since we didn't know a Helen yet. Things you had no reason to watch for or notice, but unlike a lot of reveals, this one totally didn't cheat.
An interesting comparison between the two movies: in Knives out, they tell you at the beginning “Marta did it” and so you think you have the answer, and on one level it’s true that Marta did it and on another level, when you go deeper, you see there was another answer hiding there all along. There was always a mystery to figure out even though you thought you solved the mystery. And there’s great satisfaction in watching the movie and following all the clues and having the real murderer discovered. In Glass onion, the story is as it says it is, you look into the story and you see the answer from the beginning. Nothing is hidden under all the layers because all the layers are glass. You know it’s Miles from the beginning, but you really want there to be more of a mystery, so you keep looking for other clues, even when all the clues keep pointing back to Miles. You want to pull back more layers, but each one points back to him. And the satisfaction in this movie isn’t the mystery, but in watching this annoying man who you didn’t want to be the answer in the center of the mystery, watching this man be destroyed.
Also that Ransom is a much smarter antagonist than Miles. When Blanc figures out how Ransom committed the crime, he says he'll escape since the only charge they have on him is arson. It's not until Marta tricks him into confessing for the murder that they are able to nail him. Miles on the other hand stupidly kept the envelope which implicated him. He handed his glass to Duke in front of everybody. All the evidence is right in front of them to see. He just destroys it all after they find it, not because he is smart, but because he can.
Glass Onion and Bullet Train set the bar for celebrity cameo casts. Loved Ethan Hawke for a whole 30 seconds, celebrity AmongUs (Steven Sondheim!?!?), YoYo Ma explaining the fugue. My favorite: They got Joseph Gordon Levitt to be the voice for the hourly "DONG" lololol
I love the Benoit Blanc movies! You know, they're an homage to Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot novels. Christie wrote 33 Poirot novels, and I hope Rian Johnson and Daniel Craig make just as many Benoit Blanc movies.
And having spent time in casting myself, the stunt casting here seemed purposeful. Having Blanc on a call with those four personalities elevates him and his standing in the world. Yo Yo Ma's appearance hits folks who recognize him. All of that is really intentional.
one of my favorite details of this movie is the fact that you can go back and see miles put duke’s gun in the bar (it even gets a sound effect) if you go back and look for all the details andi and benoit discover, they’re all there. THE MOVIE ITSELF IS A GLASS ONION
I really appreciated how, as a sequel, it tried to be different from the first movie. That’s why I liked the different setting and brighter tone. Looking back, it was probably just as obvious that it was Chris in the first movie really. It’s just that they made you hate the rest of the family so much that he was a breath of fresh air since he was so combative with them as well as helping Marta. That distracted from several of the extremely obvious things (the dogs, the grandmother, the argument with his father). With this it was probably more obvious, but that fits with the hilarious twist to it being SO dumb. They DID give you some reason to doubt though. The talk with Benoit where he points out that they want him dead, the glass being his, Benoit straight-up saying that he’s the least likely suspect. I agree though about preferring Knives Out, but that movie was just SO good that I think it would be impossible to top with any sequel (but I do think this came relatively close). Also, I don’t really agree with the “zoom call” complaint. I don’t think it would have been as good if they were lesser-known actors, and it was just nice seeing the likes of Angela Lansbury, even if it was just in that form. They were people more commonly associated with the type of sophistication that Benoit displays, so it was fitting I thought.
the point of the zoom call for Among Us being full of well-known celebrities is to show that Benoit Blanc is well-known enough to be FRIENDS with those celebrities, so having other random actors in those roles wouldn't really make any sense. They also each have a connection to murder mysteries
For the guest cameos, you should think of it more of an Homage since all of them were in a deactivate setting. As well two of the four are no longer with us and this were there last roles they ever played. It's an Honor to see them for the last time. And it was fun seeing them here. So I honestly wouldn't have cut them out. Sorry
You should watch "Brick". Written and directed by Rian Johnson, and stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Noah Segan who plays Derol in "Glass Onion". it's a brilliant neo noir film with one of the greatest foot chase scenes in cinematic history.
I always loved the connection of what Miles described as being a “disrupter” and Helen breaking the glass scene. Breaking something small (The small sculptures), breaking something bigger and others will join (the others did), breaking the thing no one wants to break (the piano), and going beyond (the burning of the Mona Lisa).
The cameos in this movie are fantastic. Hugh Grant as the Bf, Natasha Lyonne Angela Lansbury, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Stephen Sondheim on the Zoom call! Ethan Hawke and Serina Williams and my fave cameo of the whole movie; Joseph Gordon Levitt as the Dong voice! 🤣😂🙌
Derol is played by Noah Segan, one of Rian Johnson's best friends. He's been in every Rian Johnson movie including Knives Out. He played the enthusiastic trooper that assisted in the investigation.
I seriously believe Miles thought Andi actually was a ghost. He held his hand on her shoulder after he said "I'm really glad you came", for an uncomfortably long time, almost like he was feeling for a ghost. Also when he has the most "huh" face when he figures out that Helen is a twin, even Birdie figured it out before him. It's probably a stretch but that's my head canon 😂
Oh, absolutely. Or at least when he put his hand on her shoulder that's what he was checking for - he wanted to know whether his hand would go straight through, LOL
A great point I saw a commenter elsewhere make: The Mona Lisa burning is super apt revenge and not over a line if you consider that Miles also destroyed a unique and irreplaceable work of art when he murdered Andi. I hadn't considered their parallels (apart from the obvious scene when we still think Helen is Andi and the camera shows her inscrutable face while Miles discusses the Mona Lisa's expression) but it really is a powerful device for illustrating the value of a life.
I just realized that while Miles incorrectly said this was "the full reclamation of everything [he'd] achieved up to now", he had no idea just how right he was.
@@elbruces Yeah, it should have. But what he did say ended up being right in the end in that those he took from reclaimed what was theirs (or their family's).
Meh, you can interpret what ever you want. Still it's just another example of him using the wrong word every time more than two syllables are involved. Unless you're going to argue that Miles has magical future-vision or something. Elon Musk fans have gone there too, so let's hear it.
I think Knives Out was a more enjoyable watch, but Glass Onion is definitively the better written film of the two. My favourite part of the film is that just like Blanc, we the audience are all looking intently for clues while completely missing that they were visible right in front of us the whole time. Like a glass onion, we were too busy pealing off the layers to notice the centre. It's so well written!
the fact that every time you rewatch too, you notice another clue in the background that you missed the first watch, or notice another connection/symbology, just very well written. you're right, i think a lot of people don't realize that because the murderer was a little more obvious than the first one, so they think that = not as good. but sometimes the interesting part isn't who, but how and all the other little details. the first movie was about the overall bigger picture, this one was really about the little details, which was cool. i think it'll be interesting to see the different styles of mysteries we get as more movies are added to the series.
The best part about the Zoom call was that Angela Lansbury was in the group; so fitting being she played Jessica Fletcher in "Murder She Wrote". These Knives Out movies are basically longer versions of those episodes.
6:26 That's a cameo of Angela Lansbury (Murder She Wrote star) in her last role before her death, I do think that is a lovely touch. The others are Stephen Sondheim, Natasha Lyonne, and Kareem Abdul-Jabber all credited as themselves.
I honestly don't understand how so many reactors could think when Miles says "solve my murder" in his note to his friends, he means he's ACTUALLY DEAD. I mean, it's wild how many think that. It was so obvious he didn't mean that.
I mean, I didn't think he was then when he sent the invitations, but I definitely thought he'd die at the party. Carmen Posadas wrote a book called Invitation to Murder in which the host literally invites his friends to a party in which he dies, so I guessed it was a similar plot. And to be honest, I think it would have been A LOT more interesting. I do get the whole social commentary and why they wanted to make Miles dumb, but to spend 2/3 of the movie having us trying to guess who will kill Miles only to make the victim another person (and through flashback too) is not very coherent to me. That's why I prefer the first film. As someone else said, it isn't a bad film, but it's not a very good murder mystery.
I think it’s cause, it’s a murder mystery movie. Also since Harlan in Knives Out was both the subject of supposed murder (even though it was suicide) and into murder mysteries, I think we’ve come to first assume that the one who’s into murder mysteries is the one to be murdered
I thought this was slightly less good than the first movie due to the predictability of Miles being Andi's killer, but on a rewatch I realized it was a brilliant anti-mystery and the subversion of classic tropes makes for a really very clever deconstruction of what makes mystery/suspense shows a wild ride. Also as others have said, the cameos in the zoom call were very much an homage to the genre this derives from. The entire premise of this movie with a party on an island is taken right out of the Agatha Christie novel And Then There Were None and both films are totally love letters to classic mysteries, so the cameos were great easter eggs for us fans of the old stuff. :) (I'm 34, gah how does watching you make me feel old? 😭 unfair lmao)
I love this movie so much. Both movies are epic for entirely different reasons. I could never pick a favorite of the two. This one really went ham with all the subtle hints and easter eggs. I think that even the title is brilliant for all of the connotations as well as the obvious reasons. The writing is absolutely top notch. Very awesome movie
As a Canadian I found the, "it's been cold here in Los Angeles", thing quite funny. Just from what I've found, the coldest day in LA this year was just below 0°c (32°f) and where I live, just hit a record -49°c (-56.2°f). I know it's different because they're not used to cold but damn.. 0°c is shorts and t-shirt weather here.
Your comment about how Helen burning the Mona Lisa was a bit too far parallels Miles speech at the pool. "Am I the kind of person who will keep going? Will you break more things? Break bigger things? Be willing to break the thing that nobody wants you to break? They're gonna tell you to stop. Even your partner will say you need to stop. Because as it turns out, nobody wants you to break the system itself. "
My other half caught on the first time watching straight away when Miles says that Duke must have accidentally picked up his glass. He was like "but he put it in his hand?" just goes to show how much he's not paying attention to what people (usually me) are saying coz I never in a million years would have spotted that coz I was listening to Miles and watching Birdie dance like he said 😂
I literally went "why hand him a glass when there's one on the table" during the scene, then had to rewind the movie to make sure I hadn't dreamt it up when the first flashback showed a different thing.
This is why humans are a social species I suppose -- we need the pay-attention-to-what-the-murderer-is-doing-with-his-hands people *and* the listen-to-what-everyone-is-saying people :P
The zoom call had two points. One that many people here already highlighted: that all of them are associated with mysteries and murders. The second though is that famous people were just as affected by the lockdown as the rest of us.
There's so many little details in Glass Onion that make it a delight for me to re-watch. The set design in particular adds a *lot* with the art in the grand hall and how it's displayed if you know what to look for.
I hope the writer is able to keep cranking out fun movies with loads of twists and stellar casts like this. I agree that Knives Out is a better movie but that doesn't make Glass Onion a bad movie by any means. Both movies are super fun to watch.
Miles' circle call themselves "The Disruptors", but they follow the sequence of opening the box. Andi/Helen just breaks it open, disrupting the elaborate puzzles. Another thing is, Duke says mile is a "genius", but his Mom literally solves the first 2 steps without even trying.
The one thing that makes Helen such a good character as a Disruptor is that you actually see her admiring the Mona Lisa. She's looking at it for its artistry, not for its price. She LOVES that painting. She didn't WANT to burn it, but it was the only way to completely ruin Miles. She truly went where NO ONE, not even herself, wanted to go.
That *is* and *isn't* a painting of him at the same time. It's a painted version of a speficic frame of the movie *Fight Club.* In the movie, Brad Pitt played that scene. That's literally Edward Norton's face on Brad Pitt's body. If you've seen that movie, you know why it's funny. 😁
I don't think that was the intent. Production designer Rick Heinrichs actual inspiration was English portrait painter Lucian Freud. Using photographs of Norton, a concept artist created the piece.
Nats insane perception skills watching these films are what keep me coming back (and her amazing reactions of course!). It always amazes me how she can figure out even the smallest details of the plot and still makes the whole thing enjoyable!
The zoom call scene probably would not have existed were it not for the (definitely unpaid) cameos. Also it's the last time we're seeing sondheim and Lansbury on screen after their deaths. The Ethan Hawke scene almost certainly would have been a different actor if he weren't there. Also among us and zoom (or discord) is how everyone who plays among us with people they know plays because the game itself doesn't have voice chat. I don't blame you for not remembering that though just pointing it out
If you're interested, Rian Johnson (the director) has a show on Peacock just released called Poker Face. It's an homage to old shows like Columbo aka a howcatchem (where you witness the murder and the main tension is seeing how the main character nabs the murderer). It stars Natasha Lyonne (and *so* many guest stars) who was one of the Among Us cameos and it's been great so far if you want something similar like this and Knives Out!
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The zoom call part i think they were trying to highlight who in the world would be Benoit's compatriots and without having to explain who they were (if they were just other actors) + trying to find a way to cheer him up.
While I kind of agree about the zoom call it was nice to see Angela considering she passed in October. Plus with the nature of the movie and among us is a who done it kinda thing and how at least for me Lansbury is most well known for murder she wrote
I caught Bautista being handed the drink. When they showed the first flashback, i KNEW it was different. That he was handed the drink, not that he picked it up himself. I thought i was all smart and stuff. :😜 ...until i realized i missed Benoit calling "Andi" "Helen" instead when they met outside in the dark, or the recorder being tossed into Birdie's purse (you can see it in the beginning, over her shoulder), and several other things that flew right by me. Daryl (not here!) was in a vampire lovie that came out recently called Blood Relatives. Good stuff that he starred, wrote, and directed.
Rian said he wanted a different setting for every movie and now I'm wondering what it'll be. An escape room? A hut in the mountains? Ancient Egypt? A plane? Really looking forward to it.
Glass Onion was a really fun movie, but it wasn't as much a murder mystery as it was a big misdirect. Also, Benoit may be a great detective, but he needs to be a better wingman. Both women under his protection were nearly murdered right in front of him - it was only dumb luck that saved them in both instances.
@@greywolf7577 But if you're going to go after murderers, and drag along a civilian to help you, it's a tad irresponsible to not be at least somewhat capable of handlling yourself, y'know? Still, it was interesting that it happened in both movies.
i heard someone say that Darrel was the guy coming up with all the crazy company ideas and miles was writing them down and faxing them, thats why he keeps Darrel around on the island and that is now my head canon as well
The Zoom call was a big inside joke. Clearly went right over Natalie’s head. Angela Lansbury, famous for playing a mystery writer/amateur detective on TV. Natasha Lyonne, star of Rian Johnson’s new tv show Poker Face, also a murder mystery. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, co-author of several books about Sherlock Holmes’ brother, Mycroft. Steven Sondheim, composer of Sweeney Tood and Assassins, murder-centric stories, as well as a huge fan of mysteries. Also the last onscreen appearances for Lansbury and Sondheim. RIP.
Sondheim also regularly hosted murder mystery parties at his house, which along with his film The Last of Sheila provided a lot of inspiration for Knives Out. In that sense, having the man who inspired these films make a cameo here brings things full circle and makes for a really nice little tribute to him
Amazing little detail as well, when Helen was pretending to be Andi, she had her hair parted on the opposite side as Andi did when she was alive. So, she was literally mirroring Andi rather than being her.
Another great reaction, Natalie. It's a great film, and hopefully a great series of films, 'Knives Out', 'Glass Onion' I wonder what will be next, worth waiting for I bet.
@nataliegold In your post watch breakdown you mentioned not seeing Ed Norton since Fight Club, and it reminded me of a fun little tidbit: In this movie, you noticed a painting of Ed Norton in the background with his shirt off all ripped and muscley. It's actually a painting of Ed Norton's head on Brad Pitt's body from Fight Club.
I don't think that was the intent. Production designer Rick Heinrichs actual inspiration was English portrait painter Lucian Freud. Using photographs of Norton, a concept artist created the piece.
@@BubbaCoop no argument intended here, because you're ALSO correct, he's said so in interviews. But he also confirmed that the body he used was Brad Pitt's body on Norton's head.
I love how duke carries around a gun for "protection" but not an epi pen, this movie is great at giving you subtle details that give so much personality to each character.
It’s surprising how few people with fatal reactions don’t carry an epi pen. But then again who can afford them now
@@Knightowl1980 insurance usually cover even the cheap ones.
@@Knightowl1980 Pretty sure Duke is rich enough
@@Knightowl1980 There’s some fairly cheap options, but your point still stands!
Duke not having an EpiPen was one of the countless stupid and unbelievable contrivances in Glass Onion.
All the “characters” are ridiculous caricatures, with Duke obviously being how Roundhead Rian imagines the “internet trolls” who (justifiably) criticize him for his abortion: The Last Jedi. Duke being the one that died implies that’s what Rian wishes for his critics, exposing him as a petty lil’ snowflake!
I love how pissed off Benoit was that the crime was so dumb.
“NO! …it’s just DUMB”
And how offended he gets that miles stole the guns & lights out idea from him 🤣
I love how the mystery of this one both stands on its own, but also plays on the expectations if you saw the first. Like Blanc, you go in expecting this wild intricate master plan and… it’s just so simple and dumb.
I love that they build up to it throughout. “I’m very bad at dumb things,” “I need… a great case”
He’s very bad at dumb thangs…
"So dumb its brilliant" "NO! It's just dumb!" I laughed so hard at that. She was such an airhead.
Best quote of the entire film 😂😂😂😂
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Me going up to the creators of She Hulk. Me:"It's so dumb" Creators: "it's so dumb it's brilliant..." Me: NO!!!!! It's just dumb!!!
@@joshv9139 LMAO 100% ACCURATE!!! 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You could say she's... a birdbrain.
Yep. But just brilliantly played by Kate Hudson. She's one of those characters that if you knew her in real life you'd find her annoying as f'ck. But as a character in a movie she's so funny you almost like her.
The way I see it, Knives Out is an homage to murder mysteries with several fun twists, and Glass Onion is a farce of a murder mystery (in a good way!) where the twist is that there is no twist because not everyone is a criminal mastermind lol.
Well, no. The twist is that Andi has been dead all along.
Yeah, I picked up on that, I mean that the twist is not about the killer. The case is a glass onion, it appears to have layers of complexity but it's all see though right to the center. The billionaire is the obvious choice but we dismiss it early on because it is so obvious and "no one's that dumb".
So true! 😂
@@72Guyman yeah Blanc says he's "bad at dumb stuff," lead astray by the simplicity. And let's be fair, this is a movie, in real life Blanc would suck as a Detective, because WE ARE BENOIT BLANC, *WE* look for the complexity where it isn't. Most police work is quite straightforward, as are people's motives and actions. Most crimes are Glass Onions, the real challenge a lot of times is proving the facts in a Court of Law and getting a conviction. Which is why we escape to the (very well made) fantasy that are the Knives Out movies and related. It doesn't have to be realistic to be plausible, believable and fun.
@@Carabas72 is it a twist when it's revealed half way through?
Something I never put together myself... Derol is a constant presence, insisting "ignore me!" and eventually he just becomes part of the landscape. He only appears after everyone has removed their masks. And every time he appears, he's carrying/drinking/holding a bottle of Corona. Ergo, DEROL IS COVID.
I've never once noticed that, that is so brilliant
That’s hilarious!
My theory is he was the true idea man.
Nah, he's just that loser guy that some rich dudes have staying with them, usually in a pool house or something. He's Kato Kaelin and Miles Bron is OJ Simpson.
omg 😂
Whoever is responsible for the casting in the Knives Out franchise deserves all the praise. I like the cast of the first movie just a tad better, but Glass Onion's cast is just so much fun and every actor is just perfect for the role, especially Daniel Craig's Benoit Blanc, who might be the biggest discovery of Rian Johnson's career.
He’s also doing Poker Face starring Natasha Lyonne, highly recommend it if you like murder mysteries!
You know casting director's are credited on the film, you can look them up and name them.
Agreed! 😂
Mary Vernieu and Bret Howe.
@@Wraiven22 Haven't watched this yet but agree, really want to check it out. Poker Face looks like it could be really good
Having celebrities on the zoom call lends more weight to the idea that Benoit Blanc really is a celebrity detective who would be recognized by the rest of the characters.
Agreed!
OK, but we can agree that Yo-Yo Ma wouldn’t actually be part of Birdie’s “pod”, right?
@@MonstrousEthicist who is Yo Yo Ma????
That makes sense. The concept of the celebrity detective is a genre trope, but not a very credible one in my experience. (Law-enforcement professionals might be familiar with great detectives by reputation, but the public are not.) And establishing Blanc's celebrity status is important for the plot in the story more than in Knives Out - not just in the positive reception he gets from Miles but in the fact that they let him on the boat. It's true that he was carrying Andi's invitation, but it seemed like he didn't need it. He was swept into the group on the dock without question because everyone thought it was just like Miles to surround himself with the most famous people in every capacity.
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 famous classical cellist, who identified the music in the box.
Ethan Hawke was in this because of Moon Knight. He was nearby filming in Hungary, the director gave him a call and asked him if he wanted to do a quick day of work on the movie. Hawke thought it would be fun and that is how his cameo came to be
Also didn't he film "after sunrise" at the same location a few years earlier?
Plus at this point I figure everybody wants to cameo in these.
Ohhhh!
Interestingly that's similar to how Chris Evans' cameo in Free Guy happened as well. He was filming "Defending Jacob" nearby in Boston and Ryan Reynolds contacted him thinking it would be good fun. Evans' schedule was so tight that it had to be a quick 10 minutes then he was out of there.
I just love how ethan hawke just comes along lol if the moon knight's story is true, that Oscar Issac reached out to him in a cafe to get him in the series
You know how Miles made that speech about Disruptors? Well Helen's act in the final scene shows that compared to Mile's little group of pretenders, she herself is the true disruptor, by willingly destroying the Mona Lisa just to give Miles his comeuppance.
Exactly! She follows the script. She breaks small things. They don't mind. They even join in - excited by busting up something they are kind of tired of anyway. But then she crosses a line. And they're telling her to stop. But she doesn't. And then she does the gesture... and breaks the system that nobody wants broken.
Drinking glass. Sculptures. Artifacts. Fire. Explosion. Fingers crossed.... Mona Lisa. Disruption. Of Miles Bron.
Same with her first scene with the puzzle box
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They even foreshadowed that. He wanted to be forever remembered in the same breath as the Mona Lisa.
Completely agree. :) With one exception: I don't think it was _just_ to give Miles his comeuppance. The reason Andi (the real Andi) walked away in the first place, was that Klear, as it was presented in the movie, was going to kill lots of people. And destroying the Mona Lisa was... probably the only thing that actually would have stopped Miles, because he was just too powerful, and everybody else there was too much of a coward to go against him, even though it was going to kill people.
It was only when Miles destroyed the Mona Lisa (Helen may have pushed the override, but Miles was the one who had the audacity to install an override in the first place, so in my book, he's at least as culpable as Helen), and the others realized he was going down, that they stopped supporting him. That's what it took.
_And_ it gave Miles his comeuppance. :)
My favorite moment in the movie: "Please don't tell me you think sweatshops .... are where they make... sweatpants."
i audibly laughed at that.... its 2 am lmao
Angela Lansbury being in on the zoom call was a call back to the fact that she played a character who also solved mysteries (murder she wrote). I think this was the last role she did also.
She also played Miss Marple in the movie The Mirror Crack'd, and she was in the original movie of Death on the Nile.
Stephen Sondheim wrote a murder mystery movie with Anthony Perkins.
Kareem Abdul Jabar writes Sherlock Holmes books. Natasha Lyonne is in Poker Face on which Rian Johnson is a director.
Her Bean was named 'Murder She Solved'
I was so impressed with Janelle when I considered she was basically playing three characters (Andi, Helen and Helen pretending to be Andi). I need to see more of her.
It’s a travesty that she was never nominated for this movie, Janelle Monae had to do a lot and she did it all beautifully
Natalie, to your point about the Among Us scene; the casting was purposeful. All are/were somehow involved with fictional mysteries in some form of media as authors and actors, but they, unlike Benoit, were presumably good at mystery games and Benoit confessed he stunk at them. I think it's funny that, in this world, the real life detective is quickly defeated by those who work in fiction. I don't think it would work as well with "unknowns" like you prefer. Plus, Sondheim helped write the mystery movie (The Last of Sheila) that Rian has said has great importance to him. I get what you're saying, but being mad at us getting what I think was Angela Lansbury's last acting role, the person who was and may still be seen as the "queen of cozy mysteries" to many; I'm glad to see her this last time. Bonus for Rian, Natasha is on his new mystery mini-series, so you have the old and the new. All together, I think it pays off with the discussion about how he doesn't do well playing Clue; it's just showing what he'll tell us later.
How is Kareem associated with mysteries? Pretending to be Roger Murdock in Airplane?
Kareem has written Sherlock mystery novels. 😃
I never knew Sondheim wrote a mystery! I need to check that out!!!
I absolutely love the brilliant idea of a detective who is a pro at mysteries but games don’t make sense to him! 😂
Not only Rian Johnson himself, but several Knives Out cast members said in interviews that The Last of Sheila was the model they aspired to emulate; it's probably the cleverest murder mystery ever written for the screen (as opposed to adapted from some other medium) and I really wish we would get some reactions to it. More people need to be made aware of this truly great murder mystery, which every mystery fan I know holds in the same regard that I do and that Rian Johnson does. By the way, another movie with a great Edward Norton role is The Score, starring Robert De Niro and featuring Marlon Brando and Angela Bassett.
At first, I wasn't sold on the ending but now that I know what Helen did is exactly what Miles describes what a disruptor does "start somewhere small, and keep doing that until others join you". She starts small by smashing the glass statues and keeps going until the whole glass onion is "disrupted".
Same. I didn't understand why she did it. I thought it was just her losing her temper, but after being reminded of Miles' speech it made perfect sense.
The significance of why the 4 people on the zoom call are who they are is specific. Angela Lansbury was on "Murder, She Wrote" which was a huge influence on Writer/Director Rian Johnson. Stephen Sondheim co-wrote the script to a murder mystery called "The Last of Sheila" that this movie borrows heavily from. Natasha Lyon is on "Poker Face", a mystery show Rian Johnson created that just debuted. And K.A.J. is an avid fan of games like D&D and such so he would be doing stuff like this during the pandemic.
Probably more specifically that KAJ has written three Sherlock/Mycroft Holmes mysteries in the last 10 years...
@@snowdenwyatt6276 Oh man I didn't know that! Thank you!
@@Raven9940 I didn't remember that initially but a friend who has read the books reminded me when we watched the film. They're quite good by most accounts...
What I love about the puzzle box is that all of the ways to open it were really basic and obvious, its not that the mom is a genius is that theyre all over thinking the box bc they see miles as a super genius and not an idiot
Miles' speech on disruption: You want to shake things up, you start with something small. You break a norm, an idea, a convention. Some little business model. But you go with things that people are kind of tired of anyway. Everyone gets excited because you're busting up something that everyone wanted broken in the first place. That's the infraction point. That's where you ask yourself "Am I the kind of person who will keep going?". Will you break more things? Break bigger things? Are you willing to break THE thing that nobody wants you to break?
And that's exactly what Helen did. First the crystal statues. Then everyone else starts breaking statues. Then the fireplace. Then the piano. Then the whole building, and then the thing that nobody wanted her to break: The Mona Lisa.
It's entirely epic.
It really isn't. I found this movie incredibly convoluted. That speech felt more like Rian Johnson jerking himself off with his methodology of how he subverts every genre movie he does. It felt very self-congratulatory. Knives Out was great and the ensemble cast was far superior, but this one tries to hard and fails to make an interesting mystery. And before you say "that's the point", I know and I'm not gonna give him a free pass for making a subpar story because it's "supposed to be".
She Hulk tried the same gimmick. Being self aware that you're bad isn't a pass for being bad.
I appreciate the fact that you kept the wrong word used in the actual quote.
Mind you, do not destroy the Mona Lisa.
I love that in the flashback, Benoit says that Miles Bron isn't an idiot, then later says Miles Bron is an idiot. And the continuing of him taking peoples ideas. First the napkin, then Benoit's about the lights, and then Lionel's about burning the original. Then there's Helen doing what her sister threatened in the email by literally burning his entire empire to the ground. There was so much foreshadowing throughout the movie but it was done so well
I think the whole thing of Benoit thinking Miles wasn't and idiot at the start the realising he is an idiot who just steals other people's ideas and pays other people for their ideas is also a nod to how the world treats people like this in the real world. We assume these rich people with their big companies must be really smart to have all this but when you get to know them you realise they are idiots living off other peoples ideas. Miles clearly represents the likes of Musk and Zuckerberg.
The zoom call was with 4 famous people who wrote or will be in murder mystery stories and the whole point was establishing that Blanc is terrible at simple puzzles and over looks them for more complex solutions.
And Miles being obvious is the whole point! This movie shines on the rewatch because **everything** pointing to miles is shown on screen. The glass, the gun, phone, all of it.
Also pretty sure this was both Angela Lansbury's and Stephen Sondheim's last appearance in a film? (Sondheim actually has a few upcoming credits as music and lyrics, but as for an actor appearance, this is his last)
It's not just the book that stops the bullet, the glass would have been expensive storm glass (toughned/reinforced glass) which would have also helped to dissipate some of the energy from the bullet
Meh, you don't need massive hurricane protection in the Aegean sea.
Jessica Henwick as Peg is so adorable. Her reactions to everything are just priceless.
I love how the side characters like the scientist Lionel was talking to in the beginning and the boat driver basically outright showed us how much of an idiot Miles actually is and we just missed it.
My favorite little detail of this movie is how much the characters are defined by the masks they wear when they show up to the docks. Lionel, Claire, and Benoit are wearing serious, quality masks that are professional and effective; Birdie wearing the useless little lace thing that is all style, no substance; and the toxic buffoon who carries his “protection” everywhere to feel safe, of course, has no mask at all.
And Claire wears it under her nose. Because she's a politician, she's just wearing it because "she is supposed to", not because she actually cares about covid
I think it's good that this series is starting by setting a standard that tells us that the stories are willing to be different. I hope it becomes a long series of mystery movies, because this genre is so under-served these days. I love mystery movies where you can actually figure it out. I'd hate if the twist was so twisty that it's impossible to figure out. In Glass Onion they had really cool moments like you can see the gun in MIles' hand while he's walking down the hallway in the dark, but only for a couple frames. Same with you can actually see Miles hand over his drinking glass. But when someone tells a story the flashbacks will be edited to reflect the person's interpretation of events.
I don't mind that Glass Onion is less-good than Knives out. A series needs to start strong, after all. I think it's a really bad mentality we have these days to expect a movie to be better than all it's previous versions. I'm happy with Glass Onion as an entry in the Knives out series.
I loved this movie. I think Knives Out is better though. With this movie, I think the twist is better but because Knives Out was such a surprise deconstruction, the twist lands better there than here. Here I was expecting this caliber of twist.
Things about this movie:
-The override button isn't just a joker, it's a “Fool on a Hill” because that’s what Miles is. And a bunch of the statues in the living room references the songs mentioned in the Beatles song Glass Onion
-It takes Blanc so long to figure out the mystery because he is "very bad at dumb things."
-The Beatles song Glass Onion is about people over analyzing the lyrics to Beatles songs.
-Helen being the only disruptor and destroying the Glass Onion is foreshadowed at the beginning because she straight up destroys the box instead of playing Miles' game
-Helen and Andi part their hair on opposite sides, like Christopher Reeves did when playing Superman and Clark Kent.
-The names Helen and Cassandra refer to Greek mythology. Cassandra was Paris' sister who could see the future. She predicted that Helen would burn down Troy but no one believed her.
-Daryl played by the fanboy state trooper from Knives Out
Is Daryl some friend of Ryan Johnson?
I love that the reveals at the end actually occurred in the film, they were just irrelevant or overlookable. Yeah, it was pretty apparent when Miles talked over Duke when he was talking about seeing him outside of Andi's place the other night. But you can also see Miles handing Duke his glass, you can see Duke's phone in Miles's back pocket, you can see Helen tossing the recorder into Birdie's bag. And the moment before she gets shot, Benoit actually calls her "Helen", which was a total wait-what since we didn't know a Helen yet. Things you had no reason to watch for or notice, but unlike a lot of reveals, this one totally didn't cheat.
An interesting comparison between the two movies: in Knives out, they tell you at the beginning “Marta did it” and so you think you have the answer, and on one level it’s true that Marta did it and on another level, when you go deeper, you see there was another answer hiding there all along. There was always a mystery to figure out even though you thought you solved the mystery. And there’s great satisfaction in watching the movie and following all the clues and having the real murderer discovered.
In Glass onion, the story is as it says it is, you look into the story and you see the answer from the beginning. Nothing is hidden under all the layers because all the layers are glass. You know it’s Miles from the beginning, but you really want there to be more of a mystery, so you keep looking for other clues, even when all the clues keep pointing back to Miles. You want to pull back more layers, but each one points back to him. And the satisfaction in this movie isn’t the mystery, but in watching this annoying man who you didn’t want to be the answer in the center of the mystery, watching this man be destroyed.
Also that Ransom is a much smarter antagonist than Miles. When Blanc figures out how Ransom committed the crime, he says he'll escape since the only charge they have on him is arson. It's not until Marta tricks him into confessing for the murder that they are able to nail him.
Miles on the other hand stupidly kept the envelope which implicated him. He handed his glass to Duke in front of everybody. All the evidence is right in front of them to see. He just destroys it all after they find it, not because he is smart, but because he can.
Glass Onion and Bullet Train set the bar for celebrity cameo casts.
Loved Ethan Hawke for a whole 30 seconds, celebrity AmongUs (Steven Sondheim!?!?),
YoYo Ma explaining the fugue. My favorite: They got Joseph Gordon Levitt to be the
voice for the hourly "DONG" lololol
I had no clue that was JGL 🤣
Joseph Gordon Levitt had a voice cameo in the first film.
@@hogofthefuture i had to search to find it. wow that's awesome, "We have the nanny cam footage" lol
So happy Angela Lansbury got to be included in this
As a wrestling fan, I'm really enjoying seeing Dave Bautista getting good roles. And also, he's very good actor.
Same but I personally prefer his Drax role sad he won't be playing it after guardians 3
He is one of the best actors to come out of wrestling. He's hilarious in Hotel Artemis.
He’s a fun actor to watch! 😂😂😂
@@LordVolkov The* best actor to come out of wrestling. His cameo at the start of Blade Runner 2049 is true cinema
I seem to recall reading a quote of his where he described himself as a character actor in a gorilla's body.
it's such a great GIF "NO!!! IT'S JUST DUMB" he's so mad it's not more complicated 🤣🤣 love the knives out movies
I love the Benoit Blanc movies! You know, they're an homage to Agatha Christie's Hercule Poirot novels. Christie wrote 33 Poirot novels, and I hope Rian Johnson and Daniel Craig make just as many Benoit Blanc movies.
I'm gonna say that since Sondheim and Lansbury passed before the film was released, I'm glad we got a little moment with them.
And having spent time in casting myself, the stunt casting here seemed purposeful. Having Blanc on a call with those four personalities elevates him and his standing in the world. Yo Yo Ma's appearance hits folks who recognize him. All of that is really intentional.
Burning the Mona Lisa is a callback to the "disruptor" speech that Miles gave earlier, breaking the thing that no one wants to be broken.
They explained that the protective shield on the Mona Lisa was so sensitive that even a lighter or a text message sets it off
one of my favorite details of this movie is the fact that you can go back and see miles put duke’s gun in the bar (it even gets a sound effect) if you go back and look for all the details andi and benoit discover, they’re all there. THE MOVIE ITSELF IS A GLASS ONION
and when the lights go out you hear the sound effect of him taking it out
Natalie: Duke can't be the killer, that would be too obvious.
Duke: *is the victim*
Lol, the one thing I think people overlook is that Lionel also gave Miles the idea to burn the napkin when he asked why he just kept it xD
I got that one.
Literally everybody knows that part
@@waewae I didn't :P
I really appreciated how, as a sequel, it tried to be different from the first movie. That’s why I liked the different setting and brighter tone.
Looking back, it was probably just as obvious that it was Chris in the first movie really. It’s just that they made you hate the rest of the family so much that he was a breath of fresh air since he was so combative with them as well as helping Marta. That distracted from several of the extremely obvious things (the dogs, the grandmother, the argument with his father).
With this it was probably more obvious, but that fits with the hilarious twist to it being SO dumb. They DID give you some reason to doubt though. The talk with Benoit where he points out that they want him dead, the glass being his, Benoit straight-up saying that he’s the least likely suspect. I agree though about preferring Knives Out, but that movie was just SO good that I think it would be impossible to top with any sequel (but I do think this came relatively close).
Also, I don’t really agree with the “zoom call” complaint. I don’t think it would have been as good if they were lesser-known actors, and it was just nice seeing the likes of Angela Lansbury, even if it was just in that form. They were people more commonly associated with the type of sophistication that Benoit displays, so it was fitting I thought.
the point of the zoom call for Among Us being full of well-known celebrities is to show that Benoit Blanc is well-known enough to be FRIENDS with those celebrities, so having other random actors in those roles wouldn't really make any sense. They also each have a connection to murder mysteries
For the guest cameos, you should think of it more of an Homage since all of them were in a deactivate setting. As well two of the four are no longer with us and this were there last roles they ever played. It's an Honor to see them for the last time. And it was fun seeing them here. So I honestly wouldn't have cut them out. Sorry
You should watch "Brick". Written and directed by Rian Johnson, and stars Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Noah Segan who plays Derol in "Glass Onion". it's a brilliant neo noir film with one of the greatest foot chase scenes in cinematic history.
Been waiting patiently for reactors to catch on to Brick now that Rian's mysteries are picking up steam. Highly underrated movie.
Joseph Gordon-Levitt is also the voice of the hourly ‘bong’.
Does Rian put Noah in everything he does?
I always loved the connection of what Miles described as being a “disrupter” and Helen breaking the glass scene. Breaking something small (The small sculptures), breaking something bigger and others will join (the others did), breaking the thing no one wants to break (the piano), and going beyond (the burning of the Mona Lisa).
I like how this movie’s story is formatted, you see everything from the outside first, then you investigate deeper. Like you’re solving it yourself!
Yes, love the first one and this one is awesome
The cameos in this movie are fantastic. Hugh Grant as the Bf, Natasha Lyonne Angela Lansbury, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Stephen Sondheim on the Zoom call! Ethan Hawke and Serina Williams and my fave cameo of the whole movie; Joseph Gordon Levitt as the Dong voice! 🤣😂🙌
Derol is played by Noah Segan, one of Rian Johnson's best friends. He's been in every Rian Johnson movie including Knives Out. He played the enthusiastic trooper that assisted in the investigation.
I seriously believe Miles thought Andi actually was a ghost. He held his hand on her shoulder after he said "I'm really glad you came", for an uncomfortably long time, almost like he was feeling for a ghost.
Also when he has the most "huh" face when he figures out that Helen is a twin, even Birdie figured it out before him.
It's probably a stretch but that's my head canon 😂
Oh, absolutely. Or at least when he put his hand on her shoulder that's what he was checking for - he wanted to know whether his hand would go straight through, LOL
A great point I saw a commenter elsewhere make: The Mona Lisa burning is super apt revenge and not over a line if you consider that Miles also destroyed a unique and irreplaceable work of art when he murdered Andi. I hadn't considered their parallels (apart from the obvious scene when we still think Helen is Andi and the camera shows her inscrutable face while Miles discusses the Mona Lisa's expression) but it really is a powerful device for illustrating the value of a life.
I just realized that while Miles incorrectly said this was "the full reclamation of everything [he'd] achieved up to now", he had no idea just how right he was.
I guess? But the word should have been "culmination."
@@elbruces Yeah, it should have. But what he did say ended up being right in the end in that those he took from reclaimed what was theirs (or their family's).
Meh, you can interpret what ever you want. Still it's just another example of him using the wrong word every time more than two syllables are involved.
Unless you're going to argue that Miles has magical future-vision or something. Elon Musk fans have gone there too, so let's hear it.
@@elbruces I think the argument isn't that Miles could see that future but that the film is cleverly written.
I think Knives Out was a more enjoyable watch, but Glass Onion is definitively the better written film of the two. My favourite part of the film is that just like Blanc, we the audience are all looking intently for clues while completely missing that they were visible right in front of us the whole time. Like a glass onion, we were too busy pealing off the layers to notice the centre. It's so well written!
the fact that every time you rewatch too, you notice another clue in the background that you missed the first watch, or notice another connection/symbology, just very well written. you're right, i think a lot of people don't realize that because the murderer was a little more obvious than the first one, so they think that = not as good. but sometimes the interesting part isn't who, but how and all the other little details. the first movie was about the overall bigger picture, this one was really about the little details, which was cool. i think it'll be interesting to see the different styles of mysteries we get as more movies are added to the series.
Neither of them are well written though….
@@PickledShark 👁👄👁👍🏻
The best part about the Zoom call was that Angela Lansbury was in the group; so fitting being she played Jessica Fletcher in "Murder She Wrote". These Knives Out movies are basically longer versions of those episodes.
I think it makes sense that everyone on the zoom call was famous, because Blanc is famous in this universe, at least by name.
The actors chosen for the zoom call all have an attachment to the 'who done it' theme, which is why it was a neat nod.
6:26 That's a cameo of Angela Lansbury (Murder She Wrote star) in her last role before her death, I do think that is a lovely touch. The others are Stephen Sondheim, Natasha Lyonne, and Kareem Abdul-Jabber all credited as themselves.
I honestly don't understand how so many reactors could think when Miles says "solve my murder" in his note to his friends, he means he's ACTUALLY DEAD. I mean, it's wild how many think that. It was so obvious he didn't mean that.
Agreed
We aren't talking about the brightest of the brightest here...
I mean, I didn't think he was then when he sent the invitations, but I definitely thought he'd die at the party. Carmen Posadas wrote a book called Invitation to Murder in which the host literally invites his friends to a party in which he dies, so I guessed it was a similar plot. And to be honest, I think it would have been A LOT more interesting. I do get the whole social commentary and why they wanted to make Miles dumb, but to spend 2/3 of the movie having us trying to guess who will kill Miles only to make the victim another person (and through flashback too) is not very coherent to me. That's why I prefer the first film. As someone else said, it isn't a bad film, but it's not a very good murder mystery.
I think it’s cause, it’s a murder mystery movie. Also since Harlan in Knives Out was both the subject of supposed murder (even though it was suicide) and into murder mysteries, I think we’ve come to first assume that the one who’s into murder mysteries is the one to be murdered
In the end Benoit Blanc DID solve his murder (the one he committed).
Blanc: it’s so dumb.
Birdie: it’s so dumb, it’s brilliant!
Blanc: No!!! It’s just dumb
I thought this was slightly less good than the first movie due to the predictability of Miles being Andi's killer, but on a rewatch I realized it was a brilliant anti-mystery and the subversion of classic tropes makes for a really very clever deconstruction of what makes mystery/suspense shows a wild ride.
Also as others have said, the cameos in the zoom call were very much an homage to the genre this derives from. The entire premise of this movie with a party on an island is taken right out of the Agatha Christie novel And Then There Were None and both films are totally love letters to classic mysteries, so the cameos were great easter eggs for us fans of the old stuff. :) (I'm 34, gah how does watching you make me feel old? 😭 unfair lmao)
I love this movie so much. Both movies are epic for entirely different reasons. I could never pick a favorite of the two. This one really went ham with all the subtle hints and easter eggs. I think that even the title is brilliant for all of the connotations as well as the obvious reasons. The writing is absolutely top notch. Very awesome movie
As a Canadian I found the, "it's been cold here in Los Angeles", thing quite funny. Just from what I've found, the coldest day in LA this year was just below 0°c (32°f) and where I live, just hit a record -49°c (-56.2°f). I know it's different because they're not used to cold but damn.. 0°c is shorts and t-shirt weather here.
I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE, I LOVE THE REACTIONS👏👏
Your comment about how Helen burning the Mona Lisa was a bit too far parallels Miles speech at the pool.
"Am I the kind of person who will keep going? Will you break more things? Break bigger things? Be willing to break the thing that nobody wants you to break? They're gonna tell you to stop. Even your partner will say you need to stop. Because as it turns out, nobody wants you to break the system itself. "
Since you were wondering Natalie, Philip is Benoit’s husband.
My other half caught on the first time watching straight away when Miles says that Duke must have accidentally picked up his glass. He was like "but he put it in his hand?" just goes to show how much he's not paying attention to what people (usually me) are saying coz I never in a million years would have spotted that coz I was listening to Miles and watching Birdie dance like he said 😂
I literally went "why hand him a glass when there's one on the table" during the scene, then had to rewind the movie to make sure I hadn't dreamt it up when the first flashback showed a different thing.
@@sandmansleeps657 honestly I'm just amazed by anyone who spotted it! That's observation skills I will never have lol ☺
This is why humans are a social species I suppose -- we need the pay-attention-to-what-the-murderer-is-doing-with-his-hands people *and* the listen-to-what-everyone-is-saying people :P
Yeah, I spotted that move too.
12:58 The texting gag was god-tier. Please keep flubbing your words forever😂
The zoom call had two points. One that many people here already highlighted: that all of them are associated with mysteries and murders. The second though is that famous people were just as affected by the lockdown as the rest of us.
Then I'd say it had three points, including showing us that Benoit Blanc is bad at simple puzzles.
There's so many little details in Glass Onion that make it a delight for me to re-watch. The set design in particular adds a *lot* with the art in the grand hall and how it's displayed if you know what to look for.
I hope the writer is able to keep cranking out fun movies with loads of twists and stellar casts like this. I agree that Knives Out is a better movie but that doesn't make Glass Onion a bad movie by any means. Both movies are super fun to watch.
Miles' circle call themselves "The Disruptors", but they follow the sequence of opening the box. Andi/Helen just breaks it open, disrupting the elaborate puzzles. Another thing is, Duke says mile is a "genius", but his Mom literally solves the first 2 steps without even trying.
The one thing that makes Helen such a good character as a Disruptor is that you actually see her admiring the Mona Lisa. She's looking at it for its artistry, not for its price. She LOVES that painting. She didn't WANT to burn it, but it was the only way to completely ruin Miles. She truly went where NO ONE, not even herself, wanted to go.
38:48 that fun cameo is perfectly timed because Natasha Leon is in a show that Rian Johnson made that is out now
That *is* and *isn't* a painting of him at the same time.
It's a painted version of a speficic frame of the movie *Fight Club.*
In the movie, Brad Pitt played that scene.
That's literally Edward Norton's face on Brad Pitt's body.
If you've seen that movie, you know why it's funny. 😁
I don't think that was the intent.
Production designer Rick Heinrichs actual inspiration was English portrait painter Lucian Freud.
Using photographs of Norton, a concept artist created the piece.
15 seconds in and Natalie already made me laugh... I love this woman🥺💕
Nats insane perception skills watching these films are what keep me coming back (and her amazing reactions of course!). It always amazes me how she can figure out even the smallest details of the plot and still makes the whole thing enjoyable!
It's nice to see a reaction where Nat doesn't treat it like a big joke.
Darryl (the random dude on the island with them) is the detective that was a big fan of harlan in the first movie!!!
Can’t believe you left out the “Child = NFT” scene 😂
The zoom call scene probably would not have existed were it not for the (definitely unpaid) cameos. Also it's the last time we're seeing sondheim and Lansbury on screen after their deaths. The Ethan Hawke scene almost certainly would have been a different actor if he weren't there.
Also among us and zoom (or discord) is how everyone who plays among us with people they know plays because the game itself doesn't have voice chat. I don't blame you for not remembering that though just pointing it out
If you're interested, Rian Johnson (the director) has a show on Peacock just released called Poker Face. It's an homage to old shows like Columbo aka a howcatchem (where you witness the murder and the main tension is seeing how the main character nabs the murderer). It stars Natasha Lyonne (and *so* many guest stars) who was one of the Among Us cameos and it's been great so far if you want something similar like this and Knives Out!
been watching your channel for the last couple of days bc i love watching reactions to fall asleep (take it as a compliment) and had no idea you were celiac, so am i!! sending lots of love from brasil🇧🇷 hope your tummy is doing ok🫶
i love your humor, and this movie was really fun ! i would recommend some anime, some of them are really good and really give you the feels. One that I really like is maybe Kaguya-sama : love is war, or Horimiya, which are two of the best romance anime EVER. Anyhow, I love your vids a lot, so thanks for posting ! 😃
Derol was played by the same guy who played the fanboi cop in Knives Out. And Joseph Gordon Levitt was the voice of the daily gong
I have absolutely seen this movie all over the internet, where you been? lol
The zoom call part i think they were trying to highlight who in the world would be Benoit's compatriots and without having to explain who they were (if they were just other actors) + trying to find a way to cheer him up.
While I kind of agree about the zoom call it was nice to see Angela considering she passed in October. Plus with the nature of the movie and among us is a who done it kinda thing and how at least for me Lansbury is most well known for murder she wrote
Same with Stephen Sondheim, who passed away before the movie's release.
I caught Bautista being handed the drink. When they showed the first flashback, i KNEW it was different. That he was handed the drink, not that he picked it up himself.
I thought i was all smart and stuff. :😜
...until i realized i missed Benoit calling "Andi" "Helen" instead when they met outside in the dark, or the recorder being tossed into Birdie's purse (you can see it in the beginning, over her shoulder), and several other things that flew right by me.
Daryl (not here!) was in a vampire lovie that came out recently called Blood Relatives. Good stuff that he starred, wrote, and directed.
Omg nat I absolutely love that you dropped this. So happy for some good content
A third movie was confirmed and im already excited
Rian said he wanted a different setting for every movie and now I'm wondering what it'll be. An escape room? A hut in the mountains? Ancient Egypt? A plane? Really looking forward to it.
Glass Onion was a really fun movie, but it wasn't as much a murder mystery as it was a big misdirect.
Also, Benoit may be a great detective, but he needs to be a better wingman. Both women under his protection were nearly murdered right in front of him - it was only dumb luck that saved them in both instances.
He's a detective, not a body guard.
@@greywolf7577 But if you're going to go after murderers, and drag along a civilian to help you, it's a tad irresponsible to not be at least somewhat capable of handlling yourself, y'know? Still, it was interesting that it happened in both movies.
Loved the sequel, pretty good as the first one. Keep up the good work on these videos 👍🏻❤️
GIRLL! I just saw this movie today for the first time, and you post your reaction!!! Great Minds LOL!
i heard someone say that Darrel was the guy coming up with all the crazy company ideas and miles was writing them down and faxing them, thats why he keeps Darrel around on the island
and that is now my head canon as well
The Zoom call was a big inside joke. Clearly went right over Natalie’s head.
Angela Lansbury, famous for playing a mystery writer/amateur detective on TV.
Natasha Lyonne, star of Rian Johnson’s new tv show Poker Face, also a murder mystery.
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, co-author of several books about Sherlock Holmes’ brother, Mycroft.
Steven Sondheim, composer of Sweeney Tood and Assassins, murder-centric stories, as well as a huge fan of mysteries.
Also the last onscreen appearances for Lansbury and Sondheim. RIP.
Sondheim also regularly hosted murder mystery parties at his house, which along with his film The Last of Sheila provided a lot of inspiration for Knives Out. In that sense, having the man who inspired these films make a cameo here brings things full circle and makes for a really nice little tribute to him
And Lansbury played Mrs Lovett in Sondheim's "Sweeney Todd" too!
I did not know that Kareem was writing Holmes stories!
Amazing little detail as well, when Helen was pretending to be Andi, she had her hair parted on the opposite side as Andi did when she was alive. So, she was literally mirroring Andi rather than being her.
I really enjoyed this sequel.
I love the lights going out especially when it was alluded to with the "that's like loading a gun and turning the lights out"
That zoom call was their to honour past stalwarts of mystery genre
Another great reaction, Natalie.
It's a great film, and hopefully a great series of films, 'Knives Out', 'Glass Onion' I wonder what will be next, worth waiting for I bet.
Daniel Craig as this character is so good. I love him
@nataliegold In your post watch breakdown you mentioned not seeing Ed Norton since Fight Club, and it reminded me of a fun little tidbit:
In this movie, you noticed a painting of Ed Norton in the background with his shirt off all ripped and muscley. It's actually a painting of Ed Norton's head on Brad Pitt's body from Fight Club.
I don't think that was the intent.
Production designer Rick Heinrichs actual inspiration was English portrait painter Lucian Freud.
Using photographs of Norton, a concept artist created the piece.
@@BubbaCoop no argument intended here, because you're ALSO correct, he's said so in interviews. But he also confirmed that the body he used was Brad Pitt's body on Norton's head.