Stemson Therapeutics Interview Part 3 - Human Trials When?
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
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In the final segment, part 3 of the Stemson Therapeutics Interview featuring CEO Geoff Hamilton, Geoff reveals a timeline that is somewhat surprising based on how we know previous companies have attempted to move to human trials. There are still challenges, but if there wasn't, we'd have the cure today. This final segment is interesting so check it out.
#hairlosscure #hairloss #hairregeneration
Tsuji/Riken + Guaranteed Funding = Stemson.
I'm very optimistic, but I have a feeling I'll have to sell my house to pay for this when it finally comes to market
I've really enjoyed this series Joe. Thanks for sharing mate!
I like Spencer, and I'm glad I started listening to the Bald Truth in 2004 because that's how I learned about finasteride, which saved my life. But I remember that he used to talk about hair cloning, and he expected it to be available by 2009. I'd be the first in line for any treatment that could work permanently to stop hair loss, but we've been hearing "it's only 5 years away" for over 18 years.
what's the current state of your hair in 2022 while on finasteride?
Finasteride worked for me from 2004 to 2020. I lost hair rapidly while on finasteride in late 2020 and early 2021. I started using dutasteride every day in May, and oral minoxidil in July. I'm hoping to get back some of the hair I lost during the last few months of being on finasteride, but there's not much regrowth. What bothers me the most is my diffuse thinning, which I've been able to hide by using Toppik, but without Toppik, my hair looks thin and sparse. I am strongly considering a transplant, but I'm not sure how helpful that would be for diffuse thinning.
Bald truth in 2050: "it's only 5 years away"
@@dualscreengrant your Johnny definitely does not work. Fin and dustaride
Your keyboard does not work.
I got my first hair transplants back in 1977 my doctor told me the cure for baldness was only 5 to 10 years away. Well it's been 45 years now. 18 procedures to restore my hair. Looks pretty good. But this cure or fix? I'd sure like to see it happen before I am down to the last three follicles. Or in a pine box.
So you started out with punch graft plugs and later went on to have follicular units?
@@oncall21 I've seen this progression before where in the hands of the right doctor the old plug work can be softened quite well.
@@hairtransplantchannel Strong original frontal line and great bobbing and weaving by scalp excision-ors helped. I kept plug work close to lateral hump's so later excisions just took the thinnest weakest scalp areas top/center of head. As my frontal line dissipated the excisions took the remaining nearer to front hair and transplants into a V formation.
@Zerdest Mostoo I am pretty tapped out. Start with Norwood 3. 1970's, plugs took 6 separate sessions -- those days they weren't doing more than 150 5-6mm plugs per session. 2 scalp excisions, 1 Brandy flap, 2 Freshet devices ( 2 sessions) turned 55" of super thin scalp into 27 square inches of bald area remaining. That's 6 more sessions. About 11,000 hairs from 3 strip grafts much from pre farmed hole filled areas. That's 3 sessions. Then 3 sessions about 7500 + 750 +750 including body and neck hair FUE. I'm pretty tapped out with about max 1500 hairs all sources remaining unless we do arms/legs. Is that 18? Memory fades.
wtf was a hair transplant like in 1977 was it dangerous?
Btw Spencer you really asked good questions!
So they need to design the parameters for human/pig skin, optimise a scaffold, build up a manifacturing process, find or engineer a suitable robot and pass clinical trials. Thats a lot of work to do and explains why there is no hair loss cure as of today, it's just extremely complex (and wasnt even well-funded for decades).
The other thing is a machine should be able to tell where the hair is less dense, so it knows where to put the grafts. This is especially needed in diffuse hair loss individuals.
A lot of work to do. But if it fails we have the framework.
@@lolnyanterts that is true, but I would prefer no further delays :P
@@vflwob5 if it gets bad, wear a hair system in the meantime. we all have hairs
@@lolnyanterts yeah good advice :)
Tricho Seeds from Yokohama National university is planning to conduct human clinical trial in2023!
source of this info?
Why do I still have a feeling this ain’t gonna ever happen
You have a good feeling, Sumen left this company open their website - there are no serious scientists there, the pig trials are not going well, the human trials were supposed to start in 2021, and now Hamilton talks about several years of preclinical work: D this is a joke so much in his eyes you can see it does not work, today everyone can create hair on mice, Stemson has not done anything special so far, another Tsuji and the end will be the same
It will happen for sure, but probably not in our lifetimes.
Let's GOOOOO
Sounds like science fiction
Stemson Therapeutics company logo is a hair follicle? Did they start out as a company that was focused mainly on hair regeneration, or were they focused on cell regeneration and not specifically hair?
Now I have 20,000 needles in my head? i thought it was like prp
Hey, at 6:46, you mentioned that there are lot of products that work similar. My question is can you tell if there is any existing method that can multiply or regenerate new hair follicles and can fill the donor area that was spoiled by previous hair transplant surgeries?
He meant there are multiple robots available.
I wonder how the Alpha Reductase 5 Enzyme will affects the new follicles. Does someone know ?
Read their article they want to create a DHT resistant hair follicle generated in ipsc machine regeneration.
This will solve most of the problem and will last longer than usual years of hair transplant done manually these days .
That’s typically a life time .
When will this be out 10-20 years ?
The Tillman show, the hair man
How much time is remaining for human clinical trials?
5-6 years
@@maffef4089 how you can sure about it?
Also, when are the human trials? What about the mini-pig pre-clinical trials? Have they started yet? Any results at all to report? There's no substance here. We're being led in the dark. We want answers already! Not this obscure talk of years off after satisfying the gatekeepers and investors. The thing is they got human hair to grow in hairless mice. They got the hairs on their head, none of this waiting for eternity crap. I'm sure someone has the brains and talent to get it going already if it worked for them. If it worked for the mice, I'm sure they could figure out how to get it to work in people too who are really desperate and losing their hope and sanity. This is like the Hebrews in Egypt of 40 years of wandering in the desert, but for us it's more than that already! We're losing patience.
Hey Emil, it's not as dramatic as you describe. You can just go bald and live your life, 40% of men go bald, remember no one forces you to wait for a cure. If you don't like that, there is fda-approved medication to treat balding TODAY. Moreover, hair systems have come a long way and look good. As a last resort, you can consider hair restoration surgery. We want an optimal solution like what Stemson tries to develop but in fact no one ever had the options we are having. Take care!
@@vflwob5 Forget it! Baldness is totally unacceptable to me. I want super long and thick hair, like a Rapunzel. I want classic length hair or longer. Mine is waist length at most when stretched out. Hair restoration surgery is like vandalism. When it's over you have less hair than before you started plus scars. Hair systems are also a joke, as are wigs. I'm thankful I have 90% of my hair remaining, but that loss for me is still more than I wish to have.
But you are on the drugs I suspect?
star citizen will get out of alpha before this actually comes to market =P
LOL
How long will it take ? More 5-10 -15 -20 years ?
Absolutely not in five years, but maybe ten and at that point it will just be a start that will need to be improved upon.
How will they be able to inject a natural looking hairline?
I think if it does work it would be better used for the crown. You can still get a good hairline surgery using current practices and a good surgeon. Then fill in the crown with the new tech.
with a robot?
This is complete bull! There's no way it should have to take this long! If it was a priority to get this solution out to the public, like it was for Covid, it would arrive in 2 or 3 years, TOPS!
if 90% of women were bald, this company would work 3 times faster, nobody cares about bald men, that's the truth
To be fair, there is also much more stigma about balding women as women are expected to be beautiful by society. Men are not, that is why they are expected to embrace baldness and there is a lot of stigma against cosmetic solutions such as hair systems, which is kind of the opposite problem. But to say that women are somehow treated better is a bit unfair because society puts a lot of pressure on them and this beauty pressure
creates the incentive for companies to develop solutions in the first place.
@@vflwob5 bullshit.....if You are a man you must be tall, goodlooking with beautifull hair and thick wallet:) if You are a woman you nly need a hole between You legs that is all
@@vflwob5 that's a load of crap. Men have to be attractive too. Baldness is stigmatized more and more every year because it makes you look older and with today's super progressive women out there, old = evil/ racist.
@@janmiedza6607 Actually, roughly 40% of women or more experience hair loss in their lifetime so it's not just us!
will they be able to restore full head of hair? can i chose hair thickness, colour ?
I doubt you have a choice of colour only in that, based on typical stem cell science, the final form is created through signalling of neighbouring cell structures so logically it would be closer to your original hair colour and texture. I'm guessing but it makes sense based on what little I know about the actual science.
@@hairtransplantchannel so i want be able to chose my dream hair from stemson?
@@hairtransplantchannel How long do You think personally will it take to come out in the market? 10 years is possible?
@@janmiedza6607 they say 3 to 5 years in thumbnail.
The color will definitely be your own hair type because they're using your own cells to make the hair organ.
What's SAD IS THAT THIS IS 15 YEARS AWAY FROM REALITY IF EVEN POSSIBLE!
if the wont show positive results in pig trials they wont get any money from investors, so it wont take 15 years
@@janmiedza6607 hey Jan what are your thoughts on Dr junji Fukuda starting human trials for hair cloning next year ?
@@maffef4089 i am not an expert, just random guy from net, but imo Fukuda is better an cheaper option than TSuji or Stemson, what about dnovo MAF?
@@maffef4089 where can I find more info?
@@janmiedza6607 dnovo is interesting but it's an injectable like histogen and replicel which both failed, but god willing dnovo can work . what do you think Jan of dnovo?... Stemsons is no way coming out before 2035.
Cure or treatment ?
I personally believe it will be closer to being a cure as the idea is to have one treatment that will produce strong healthy hairs in one shot, with multiple treatments only necessary to get the desired coverage/density. I doubt that follow up maintenance will be necessary if the initial follicles are healthy.
@@hairtransplantchannel so stemson knows how to produce dht resistant hairs?
@@janmiedza6607 I suspect that the source material they're pulling from will already have natural DHT resistance.
@@hairtransplantchannel
"HLC2020: What aspects of hair growth do you believe you will be able to control? Shaft thickness, direction, etc.?
Dr. Terskikh: Should be able to control all aspects. The shaft thickness (also hair length) is directly proportional to the number of DP cells in the DP capsule. We can transplant any number of cells we want."
@@hairtransplantchannel I remember someone mentioned that this was more like a treatment where you have to have the surgery done every 5 years or so to replace the dying hair. I believe stemson hasn't figured out how to get more than 4 hair cycles.
So what? Even if all of this comes true, do you really think it's not gonna be available only to the ultra rich? I know, I'm a bad person.
yes, everything is only for rich, the rest are slaves who make money for rich masters, that is the reality
Look for it in 2052
Guy face language said he was spatting bs
Trashtalk channel.
There will not be a Cure in 10 years only shit like this where you can add 1% regrowth. Or just maintain. Guys dont keep your hope up. Be realistic. Every official study for regrowth will take 10 years and another 10 years to be affordable. So most realistic is 20 years guys. Stemson did not even start hahaha and here you are celebrating 2022 good year for hair loss over shit products like this hahahaha
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What? These guy are like 15 years away
30years +