@Hunter D Reminds me of Jake Featherston from Harry Turtledove's TL-191. He is essentially a Confederate Hitler that started out as a Sgt in a prestigious artillery regiment that fought alt-WW1 in its entirety, got screwed over by the establishment after his superior (son of the CSA Chief of Staff) killed himself after hinting out that his superior's servant was a Commie all along, went into bitter animosity with the world, especially blacks, joined a Nazi Party-expy, become President of the CSA, went to war against the USA, committed his own Holocaust, and died like Mussolini in 1944. "Featherston" doesn't sound intimidating until after 1944...
@EuphoricZone The fact that they took the west coast at all is weird. Like, why bother? All the stuff they wanted was on islands in the Pacific or mainland Asia.
I mean, no, totally not. Countries have let go of rebellious territories many many times historically, especially when they had to focus on something else. (American war of independence, Russian revolution, Hungarian revolution of 1848, like half of afghani history, the whole mess that eventually led to Irish independence, every Latin American country, Algeria, and SO MANY MORE
So, Julianna is what they call in the writing community an 'Anti-Sue', the sub-trope of Mary Sue who is terrible, disliked, and mostly useless but still integral to the plot and kept alive by the enemies who hate her and what she's doing because "she could be useful". It's someone who knows what a Mary Sue is but still hasn't learned how not to write them, so they're the opposite of the Beloved by all, wins at everything Mary Sue.
I'm honestly shocked they could mess up Man in the High Castle so badly. They basically had the movie Fatherland to look at for inspiration on how to deal with late-stage reich syndrome correctly.
I love PKD and all the adaptations of his work, for while they always fail to capture the quintessential PKD spirit they still turn out fascinating in their own right. Except for the Dude in the Huge Castle. Words cannot express the extent to which Amazon desecrated and disfigured the source material. And you’re right, *they couldn’t even make the Nazis interesting*
“tHe jApAnEsE wErE wAy mOrE tOlErAnT tHaN tHe nAzIs” Anyone who knows anything about the Pacific theater during WW2 would know that every woman on the West Coast of the U.S. in the Man in the High Castle would have a half Japanese child, and I hope you can see where I’m going with this.
Edit: Since I am STILL getting replies, I made a comment right below where I recognize my mistake. Yes, I am aware that the Nazis did their fair share of human experimentation. At the very least the Nazis weren't literally performing human experiments, and they started employing children only when they got desperate. Japan just sent em with grenades right towards enemy lines (Clarification this isnt to make Nazis look better its just that WW2 Japan was really twisted)
Well, Code Geass Rebellion of Lelouch is technically an alternative history. The American revolution failed due to defection of key revolutionary figures and it remains crown colonies. Napoleon defeated all of his enemies in Europe and the British monarchy evacuated to North America to setup Britannia Empire. Oh and there are immortals running around handing out powers (such as our main character's ability to command anyone to obey him absolutely, once) to unwitting individuals.
The first show is kinda ironic because in our timeline when America landed on the moon first the Soviets just kinda shrugged and congratulated the U.S, but I could totally see the U.S getting pissy about the Soviets doing the same
It’s mostly down to the fact that the soviets kinda gave up on the Space Race long before the moon landing. Their leading scientist in their space program died which made them loose faith in the project.
@isaacwilcox3010 It also didn't help that there were multiple design bureaus all competing for government funding. Sergei Korolev (the guy you were talking about) wasn't the only person working on space stuff.
Bro, I remember watching Fringe when I was a kid. Hearing him explain the plot I realized, the amazing show that got me hooked on sci-fi could be dismissed as a fever dream
I watched it originally on tv. And I’ve watched twice all the way through and I still love the show as much as I did at first. Yes it’s campy and sometimes ridiculous but episodes like “the White Tulip” and the final episode, and season where Peter reconciles with Walter still makes me realize how great the show is. Watch it again. I promise you’ll change your opinion
That’s your standard Kurtzman and Orci written production. Managing to be pointlessly complicated while at the same time being thematically shallow and vapid and corny af
“Italy got a coupon to Papa John’s” Each of them got what they deserved for the work they did, Germany, half the world, Japan, the other half and Italy a coupon and getting devoured by Germany. Fun
Nah It's not like our scenario where Italy does nothing The Italians had to help in the eastern front But they got nothing It's sad not being able to see Novus Imperium Romanum
@@broheim23 If I had made this series it would be with Juliana being the heroine of her story after accepting that she has to put an end to the Nazis especially because after her sister was killed it was because she killed Frank because he was a Jew, I would have made there action and Michel Bay-style exploits so that in the third season there are no interdimensional trips but that the Reich was with the colonization of Mars as it happens in the book and that he discovers that John Smith turns out to be the protagonist's father. The end of the story would be a warlike hell.
Honestly though, it would be so much better without the games. You have this incredibly well-thought out (more or less) alternate history, then comes along BJ Blazkowicz with his big pow pow sticks to blow it all away and he somehow just liberates an entire continent more or less alone. It would be incredibly cool if the game took place from the perspective of a boots on the ground N#zi soldier in Africa or something.
@Annoying Fan It depends on what they can do with it. There is more than enough material to make a dystopia film, war drama, action film, anything. And honestly there is not a good althis TV series with Nazis. Personally, Man in the High Castle wasn't even good. Or alternate history really.
@Annoying Fan Yeah but Man in the High Castle also takes place in our universe. Our universe still happens. The Nazi universe just happens to be where it is set. Therefore it is not alternate history, no more than Futurama is.
the irony of shows that start with the premise of alternate history end up being mediocre b-movie productions while b-movie productions that develop into an alternate history premise end up being pretty intriguing
I've gotta say, as a fan of For All Mankind, the 2nd season really took things up a notch. Improved on the characters, improved on the situations, etc, besides one moment that any viewer of FAM will know what I mean. Plus the timelines start to get more diverted in interesting ways, such as 3 mile being avoided, John Lennon surviving, and Reagan being elected in the 70s. It's an interesting series, and I'm really hyped for Season 3
I really like the series a lot. Many people say it's woke pandering but I didn't really see it that way at all. During those times you had the anti-war counter culture and civil rights/feminist movements happening so it's very realistic to what was happening in those days.
That is such a stupid, bizzare take to proverbially patch up a plot hole that it almost but still doesn't makes sense now that I've thought about this for too long
For those who want to avoid spoilers for certain shows or just want time stamps for each section: Intro: 0:00 For All Mankind: 1:09 Fringe: 4:04 NordVPN Sponsor Spot: 13:39 The Plot Against America: 14:48 The Man In the High Castle: 15:15 Juliana Crain Rant (spoilers for the first two seasons): 18:18 Season 1: 19:52 Season 2: 22:54 Season 3: 25:33 Season 4: 26:42 Ranking + Conclusion: 28:27
@@avalynpoe4441 what do you mean Himmler a fictional character he is real he was a failed chicken farmer and led the SS and in TNO he had his own state
I wanted Man in the High Castle to be good so bad, but this video has helped me finally accept that it wasn't. It really wasn't. Cool soundtrack though.
If you want a good, disturbing alternate history where the Axis wins, I recommend two HOI4 mods: The New Order: Last Days of Europe, and Thousand-Week Reich. There’s also the book Fatherland.
I live in Cañon City the main town/city in the damn show and the only thing they got right about us is the damn sign you see at the beginning of the first episode that the characters enter the town. We are basically a shrub desert, not some lush looking oregon town....
And even the book isn’t that good, enjoyable but not world changing, I find it hilarious that people can’t stand the characters in the show that are actually in the book
I wouldn't been interested in alternate history, unless I accidentally discover Whatifalthist (like how I accidentally discovered Oversimplified through memes)
Yeah if you're gonna do a Nazi Victory story, it ruins it to give your characters an escape hatch. The entire premise of the Nazis winning is that the world is irrevocably fucked.
@@NathanTAK Its just a way to make the reader feel good about themselves because "the good guys are always supposed to win" *insert soyjak here* For once I want a story where Germany isn't doomed to fall, which the very concept of is completely spitting on the sacrifice allied soldiers gave in the war.
For me it isn’t so much the fact that some people travel to other universes it’s that we know how it works and it can be done consistently. Tagomi’s miracle and the film’s. Sure it’s acceptable But when people are Apparently doing it constantly you ruined basically the entire story.
@@zemowit I don't think that's true. The Reich was built on pillars of sand but the harm it would have done before, during, and after its collapse was absolutely worth doing everything in our power to stop it from getting to that point
Try to explain Fringe - > No that sounds like the stupidest thing I ever heard of. I'm not watching it. Force them to watch 2 seasons. - > Thanks, that was great.
I am surprised that you didnt even mention the "Black Communist" group in season 4 that appeared out of no where and wasnt mention in the previous 3 seasons.
I LOVED fringe. I watched years after it was already done. Hearing your comical description of it made me laugh my ass off. I would suggest all of you watch it and great review of it!
'whatever Harry Turtledove decided to slap together' It's time travel with some South African mercs to bring a couple crates of AK's to Robert E. Lee time.
@@sarkasmomancer266 Well admittedly it was all a matter of how the allies worked out and then you just have to follow the dotted lines. He just takes a very long route from the south was allied with the English to the north was allied with the Germans and how that's why we have Civil War 3.
I watched The Plot Against America recently and it is now one of my favorite shows. The show actually makes you care about what’s happening to both the characters and to America as a whole.
For the man in the high castle, the reason why Germany did not immediately go to war with Japan was because they were still fighting WWII in the Urals while Japan was still fighting in China and Siberia (this is mentioned briefly when we see resistance received weapons). The uncolored areas are regions out of both governments control (and Germany annexed Italy). It is unfortunate that none of this was shown despite how interesting they are
I couldn't read this without bursting out laughing at the sheer stupidity of that scenario (no offense to you, the novels themselves were batshit crazy)
@@emmisysquire9684 I mean, it is quite realistic tho. Even under the crazy scenario where Germany and Japan won there is no way they have the resource to hold and stabilize the region. As stupid as it is the premise is just impossible.
“Gee, I love reading about history, but what if things would have happened differently? I would love to read about it!” Turtledove: “I’m bout to start this whole genre”
Turtledove didn’t start this genre. It existed well before him. Though there are others, “Bring the Jubilee”, which I believe was published some time in the ‘50s, comes to mind.
No. The main idea behind Fringe is the phrase, "what hath science wrought?" -- a huge majority of the problems in the show ultimately come down to people misusing the advancement of technology or science for any number of reasons -- some people do it for genuinely touching or noble (in theory) reasons, while others misuse them for horrid and evil reasons. The alternate universe is a thing that simply exists on its own, just as any number of multiverse theories posit, but one of the main characters' (Walter Bishop) ambitions drive things to go out of wack. Fringe Division's job is to try to counteract these "fringe events". Very rarely are they not manmade in some way. I would highly recommend giving the show a watch, because it certainly is not mediocre and has a very touching, intimate story.
@@starleighpersonal Based on your response, do you...? It is a universe where all sorts of anomalies, creatures, etc exist. That is not even remotely similar to what is in Fringe.
As a persons who’s read Man in the high castle. It sounds like the show really followed the book. Taking too long to ultimately do nothing thus wasting the characters, setting, and idea in the process.
@@luisisaacdelarosabeltran why would that mean you blame amazon? The show was bad from the get go (this video shows that entirely). Canceling it is probably good if anything, and the source material is also very bad so there’s no savior there. It’s just a bad story that was handled poorly as well.
@@metronicmagician1816 PKD had a way to write books and this is unique like the others. Is depressive because is an universe where German Nazis and Imperial Japanese are controlling the world, so it's justified. A sequel was on the works but PKD could bring himself to do more research since it had been soul-draining the research he did for Nazi Germany.
@@luisisaacdelarosabeltran I mean having read the book It’s utter garbage. The book takes way to long to forward a plot, and instead of just not having a plot which would totally work he rushed a third act plot that only messed things up, and hurt the narrative they were building. Also the book has virtually no Nazi stuff in it, and was more about a Japanese San Francisco than anything else. It didn’t work, and the only thing that kept it floating was the premise which only gets half used because again they never go to the nazi side of the US. It’s entirely set in San Francisco, and 2 bits of the Neutral Zone. I’m sorry, but it’s just not a good book because how poorly the story itself was handled.
How to fix Man in the High Castle 1. We don't have Juliana start killing everyone she meets 2. We have more action 3. We get rid of the BCR, that whole thing was stupid 4. We remove the multiverse stuff, and instead have it as a fake propaganda film 6. We don't forget about Ed 7. More Volkshalle. I loved it 8. More Nazi buildings, I wanna see that Nazi Stadium 9. We don't kill Tagomi 10, We actually give it a proper ending.
I feel like cody is trying to one up his brother now in weirdness and I approve of the timeline where cody and tyler are competing for there insane audiences brains.
I'm side Cody. At least Cody is still making videos relevant to what his channel is supposed to be rather than having it go completely off the rails to the determent of the people who preferred how the channel used to be.
@@JJAB91 I completely disagree I love that tyler is an insane goblin man now and every video he makes is a trip and what the channel is, but if that’s how you feel that’s fine I did enjoy the old style too..
Fringe is 1 of my favorite sci-fi shows ever. It goes absolutely batshit, but it's an immensely satisfying experience. If no one here has ever seen it, please go do so. It's genuinely one of those underrated gems.
As long as he doesn't go full Tyler. If you like Tyler's new stuff thats great but if you subbed to him because of the videos he used to make this sudden change is pretty much a big fuck you to long time subs.
@@JJAB91 I get that but I’ve been watching his vids for a long time and I’m not particularly offended. People evolve and so does their content. But I get you, I don’t particularly want this style to be the new normal either but as far as the occasional video, I don’t mind it
Ah yes TNO a timeline where either a shrimp boat starts a nuclear war or a cocaine addicted obese goering invades everywhere and start a nuclear war with either japan or america
True. There were a lot of scenes that show Smith wasn't entirely in line with the Nazi system. But all those scenes ended up going absolutely nowhere cuz he dies in the end as a generic bad guy who wants to do bad things rather than a complex and interesting character.
Unpopular opinion. I don’t like season 4 BUT John shooting himself slightly redeemed it. It proved at that point he didn’t care about family since his two daughters were alive, he only cared about power. Then the rest of the finale ruined it.
The really depressing thing about Man in the High Castle is.... you had an incredibly powerful setting and this is the best story you can make with it?
There's no point in him doing a video on it as it's too small, is quite new, has very vague lore that for some parts is literally the spirit of Rommel shits out panzers so Germany wins plus last time Cody did a HOI4 mod it didn't go well at all
That first episode was such an America circle jerk lmao, almost nothing about it was based on realism and didn’t even bother getting too specific other than “SINCE WE’RE BADASS AMERICANS WE’LL EVENTUALLY DEFEAT THE NAZI SCUM”
Alternate history show writer: Oh boy, this last season is going to be a rollercoaster. Me: Don't do it. Writer: Don't do what? Me: Don't do it. You better not. Writer: What do you mean? I'm so confus- **snatches notes out of writer's hands** Writer: I-I can explain. Me: Why do your notes say a portal to another universe? Writer: No you don't understand. Me: You have an entire page titled "Ideas I Want to Steal From Fringe" Writer: I would never steal from- Me: Let me read this out loud to you, "Abe Lincoln is warned by alternate universe Ulysses S. Grant that there will be an assassination attempt against him by John Wilkes Booth, who is trapped in between universes, and the only way to stop him is to kill alternate Rob Lincoln who was kidnapped by Lincoln from our timeline in season 1." Writer: See! I would never steal from Fringe. Me: WDYM!? This is just Fringe set in the Civil War!
@@DarthEstebanMontoya the last minutes of the last episode are just the trailer of paradox's standalone Kaiserreich(tm), and then a code that will give you 2% discount in the $2999,99 season pass for the first 300 people to pre-order
Except Jar Jar is good at something: Diplomacy. He became a Senator, and solved several "interplanetary incidents." Unlike juul vape who literally fucks over everyone she comes within speaking distance of.
Media criticism has become more interesting than the shows. Only a critic can afford all of these streaming services -- in the form of a tax write-off.
I like how following seasons of For All Mankind start with passage-of-time montages that include throwaway news articles like "Michael Jordan drafted by Portland Trailblazers" and "Michael Jordan and Randy Johnson lead Seattle Mariners to ALCS for second time in three years." Thus forcing me to wonder what sort of butterfly effect shenanigans lead to Jordan being an elite baseball player but also A) he's still an elite basketball player, B) the Trailblazers were still in position to draft him and C) Randy Johnson still finds his way onto the Mariners.
I'm going to say it despite hating everything Kurtzman has done since: Fringe was better than the X-Files. The mystery box actually worked. And Kurtzman's tinfoil hat paranoia actually works when writing a series set in a universe where every tinfoil hat theory is true. Plus, John Noble was an absolute genius. Anna was the perfect foil for his insanity. And they didn't do the stupid, "skeptic/believer" trick for years even when it was clear they were in tinfoil world.
Doctor Wollenseuss _Once more unto the breach, dear friends, though we fill it up with our Fringe-fan dead_ . -William Shakespeare, Richard III (pretty sure I got that right) Srsly tho, Noble chewing the scenery = fried gold
Despite Kurtzman and Abrams being on board, this video really piqued my interest for Fringe, I knew of its existence for the longest time but only assumed it was some cop show.
One of my favourite sci-fy shows ever. Loved the gorey mysteries and the overall plot. Sure it has its flaws but Walter, Peter, Olivia and all the Observers you can spot along the way hold a special place in my heart.
After seeing all the little memes in the edits of this video and all the references and low key opinions thrown in, I am now convinced Cody is literally exactly the same person as me with the same interests, sense of humor, pop culture taste and pretty much everything else media related.
Jesus Fringe sounds like a fever dream. I was getting anxious just listening to Cody describe that clusterfuck of a plot. How do these shows get greenlighted but My Name Is Earl gets cancelled with a cliffhanger??
I still desire an Alternate History Scenario where Goergy Malenkov or Lavrentiy Beria won the post Stalin power struggle as opposed to Nikita Khrushchev. Like so Cody see's this.
watch "The Death of Stalin" you know the movie, its pretty funny, and i think it kind of shows the character of both those guys and what they intended to do after Stalin. turns out after Stalin's death Beria basically switched sides, and planned on releasing all the prisoners and stopping deportation, including many un-stalin like reforms. this is stark contrast to what the terrible things he did under stalin. so it seems in order to secure his own power he would have tried to enact some kind of reform, and somehow purge the rest of the people who oppose him, or something... i don't know how he would have done that, because almost everyone HATED him, so i am not sure if he would even have the support to gain power like that. as for Georgy Malenkov, he was initially the temporary leader of the USSR after stalin, but then kruschev quickly deposed him soon after. if he stayed, well he had a more conservative mindset, and still believed in many stalinist ideals, so probably LESS reform than under kruschev.
Summing up Fringe makes it sound dumb, but it's genuinely an extremely fun show for the first two seasons especially - it's like a 2000s version of the X-Files but zanier. I really REALLY want to like Man in the High Castle, it had really really great set design that sold the world, and a lot of tense moments, and enough interesting ideas and storylines to string you along through the "boring" parts. I even thought the twist that our timeline exists was really cool... But even if you liked the show for a while, the final season REALLY falls apart, even though it set up something really cool conceptually. The end doesn't solve anything and leaves a lot of loose threads.
Man in the High Castle is true pain. Juliana is absolutely the WORST main character ever created. She is truly awful in every way possible. Also hoped that Joe was gonna be a good guy but turned out to be a dang ol' "Notsee". Last thing: Tagomi is a sigma male.
The last thing i remember was Peter disappearing. Not sure if i stopped watching there or just forgot the rest, but now i want to rewatch. I remember screaming when the dude’s jawbone falls off in Ep 1.
FRINGE doesn’t get nearly the love it deserves, it’s a big reason I got into alternate history. Those early Red Universe episodes were like shucking fine oysters, just gems left and right like the East Texas smallpox epidemic or the White House being rebuilt after 9/11. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Dude in the Huge Castle and Juliana specifically. As a big fan of AltHist and Saint PDK I saw the novel I loved disfigured and desecrated, all I heard season after season was “yeah it’s p good, alternate history finally making it big time” and I wondered if Juliana was supposed to be the secret villain of the show.
I'd love to see a show based on the novel _1632,_ where a town in West Virginia is taken back in time to Germany during the thirty years war. It is a beautiful Amurika' power fantasy.
I'd rather not, there are better stories to adap- on second thought, yeah go ahead, I don't want TV and Hollyweird execs to lay a finger on any althistory universe I'm actually invested in.
You can tell when a show has an impact if Cody is able to remember anything about the characters or plots Doesn’t necessarily mean they’re good, but impactful
Something odd I noticed: At 24:40 when the guards are holding back John's wife, they're wearing Strichtarn, a camouflage pattern developed in East Germany in the 1960s.
Isn’t The Boys technically alternate history, since it matches up one to one with our world up until (for the sake of no spoilers) the twentieth century, at which point superheroes become a thing? Cause if so, I’d love to see you analyze it
@@TheDaks27 they’re both similar in many ways, but The Boys differs in a few major ways: -it’s live action adaption is way better -it comments more on modern America and corporate entanglement in politics -since it’s a show, it has more time to explore its many characters
By that logic, every superhero series is alternate history. Seriously, the only thing that significantly changes on The Boys is where 9/11 happened as well as homosexuality not being accepted mainstream.
In the comics the airplanes of 9/11 were all taken down by U.S. Aviation except one because The Sevens had to make a stunt and save the plane themselves but it goes terribly wrong and instead crashes into the Brooklyn bridge
I’ve been watching The Man in the High Castle recently, and I have to say, it makes for a GREAT comedy! The plot and characters just try to take themselves so seriously that you just can’t believe them, which makes it hilarious. And they have to remind you every 10 goddamn minutes that the Nazis and Japanese won the war. Can’t wait to watch more!
Man in the High Castle summarized in one sentence:
“Local woman releases Snyder Cut, ruins everything.”
"Nazi supersoldier gets hillariously killed by old Japanese Man."
"Funny little Nazi man gets angry and dies to leprechaun"
“Cross-Country Road Trip, but with Nazis and Guns”
@@trazyntheinfinite9895 "Nazi big wig's son gets hilariously killed by tiny woman."
"For 4 seasons Nazi man becomes less fanatic only to become *literally Hitler* in the last 20 minutes."
Imagine being the leader of a large part of North America and your parents gave you the name John Smith.
next alternate history show will feature the Spanish empress Maria Martinez, the caliph Muhammad Mohamed and the Chinese emperor zang wei
@Hunter D yea, but it’s a stupid name
@Hunter D Reminds me of Jake Featherston from Harry Turtledove's TL-191. He is essentially a Confederate Hitler that started out as a Sgt in a prestigious artillery regiment that fought alt-WW1 in its entirety, got screwed over by the establishment after his superior (son of the CSA Chief of Staff) killed himself after hinting out that his superior's servant was a Commie all along, went into bitter animosity with the world, especially blacks, joined a Nazi Party-expy, become President of the CSA, went to war against the USA, committed his own Holocaust, and died like Mussolini in 1944. "Featherston" doesn't sound intimidating until after 1944...
Mfs really put a protagonist name onto an antagonist
Even a supreme leader is a mere human.
27:38 you know its alternate history when the Empire of japan willingly gives up a huge chunk of territory
,,Nobody took this area for some reason"
Russia when occupying said Area 1700s - 1941 : *Existance is suffering*
@EuphoricZone The fact that they took the west coast at all is weird. Like, why bother? All the stuff they wanted was on islands in the Pacific or mainland Asia.
Maybe they got too much land?
@EuphoricZone japan would never ever handover American territories to others they will massacre everyone if necessary
I mean, no, totally not. Countries have let go of rebellious territories many many times historically, especially when they had to focus on something else. (American war of independence, Russian revolution, Hungarian revolution of 1848, like half of afghani history, the whole mess that eventually led to Irish independence, every Latin American country, Algeria, and SO MANY MORE
So, Julianna is what they call in the writing community an 'Anti-Sue', the sub-trope of Mary Sue who is terrible, disliked, and mostly useless but still integral to the plot and kept alive by the enemies who hate her and what she's doing because "she could be useful". It's someone who knows what a Mary Sue is but still hasn't learned how not to write them, so they're the opposite of the Beloved by all, wins at everything Mary Sue.
Nah.
@Roshaun Roache ha
@Roshaun Roache It says, "Joe is eternal."
@Sir Paws 420/69
Yes yes yes. I was just about to comment this. Thank you.
I'm honestly shocked they could mess up Man in the High Castle so badly. They basically had the movie Fatherland to look at for inspiration on how to deal with late-stage reich syndrome correctly.
I love PKD and all the adaptations of his work, for while they always fail to capture the quintessential PKD spirit they still turn out fascinating in their own right. Except for the Dude in the Huge Castle. Words cannot express the extent to which Amazon desecrated and disfigured the source material. And you’re right, *they couldn’t even make the Nazis interesting*
The show had so much potential. What a waste.
That is why I prefer Fatherland over this. They capture the effects of a victorious Nazi Europe well...
...You all know that Philip K. Dick's daughter herself helped produced 'The Man in the High Castle'?
bruh HOI4: TNO is more interesting than a Man in the High Castle. And more interest characters then a juliana crane
Only if Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter was a TV show.
It was real life
Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter was a biography, not alternate history
Can’t wait to see you in the upcoming ERB Mr. President.
My favorite Abraham Lincoln quote is, "The problem with reading quotes on the internet is that it can be hard to verify their authenticity."
Pretty good movie for what it was. Would recommend.
“tHe jApAnEsE wErE wAy mOrE tOlErAnT tHaN tHe nAzIs”
Anyone who knows anything about the Pacific theater during WW2 would know that every woman on the West Coast of the U.S. in the Man in the High Castle would have a half Japanese child, and I hope you can see where I’m going with this.
That and the shit they did in Unit 731, for when the shit the Nazis did seem too human
Not to mention, even the Nazis were disgusted at what happened in Nanking.
Edit: Since I am STILL getting replies, I made a comment right below where I recognize my mistake. Yes, I am aware that the Nazis did their fair share of human experimentation.
At the very least the Nazis weren't literally performing human experiments, and they started employing children only when they got desperate. Japan just sent em with grenades right towards enemy lines
(Clarification this isnt to make Nazis look better its just that WW2 Japan was really twisted)
@@NewNicator wasn't it like one nazi officer
Actually I think it’s less supposed to be that the Japanese were more tolerant and more that the Japanese became more tolerant After the war.
"Hey, can we have a normal Alternate History show that doesn't involve multiverse travel and complex sci fi shenanigans?"
Alt History show: "No."
Ok hear me out:
Nukes never existed, Japan was invaded, and now vehemently anti-communist US fights China for control over Asia.
@@DakotaofRaptors I would love an alternate history show about how bloody Operation Downfall could’ve been.
Ok so before you judge me
Is your pfp one of those default Xbox pfps?
I know what you mean, a lot of media now seems to have this fascination with everything having an inter dimensional element of some sort.
I feel so seen by this, was so disappointed by that part of man in the high castle
Well, Code Geass Rebellion of Lelouch is technically an alternative history. The American revolution failed due to defection of key revolutionary figures and it remains crown colonies. Napoleon defeated all of his enemies in Europe and the British monarchy evacuated to North America to setup Britannia Empire. Oh and there are immortals running around handing out powers (such as our main character's ability to command anyone to obey him absolutely, once) to unwitting individuals.
Supposedly, CC in the Geass universe was Martha Washington and Ben Franklin defected to the Loyalist side because she didn't love him.
Actually the point of divergence is even earlier, with all the Celtic tribes of Great Britain uniting to push out the Romans.
@@redrave404 I think that stuff about Celtic tribes of Britain uniting to push out the Romans is just a propaganda by Britannia.
My second favorite anime ever
Anime Alt History shows would probably need their own video considering how many of them there are
The first show is kinda ironic because in our timeline when America landed on the moon first the Soviets just kinda shrugged and congratulated the U.S, but I could totally see the U.S getting pissy about the Soviets doing the same
It’s mostly down to the fact that the soviets kinda gave up on the Space Race long before the moon landing. Their leading scientist in their space program died which made them loose faith in the project.
Yeah the whole show's concept is dumb af
Nobody actually gives a shit about the moon landing this much
@isaacwilcox3010 It also didn't help that there were multiple design bureaus all competing for government funding. Sergei Korolev (the guy you were talking about) wasn't the only person working on space stuff.
@isaacwilcox3010 "died" pretty sure he was assassinated but by which nation is questionable
The thing is, Soviets did win space race. They did everything first, except human landing on moon.and did this with a economy of third world countrie.
0:16
0:21
"One small step for me, one big hop for thee"
"Boy in the Tall Tower"
I can't with these, lmao.
"Look at that! That's certainly not how things turned out. _WEEEEE_ "
He forgot about season 2
i think you got the times wrong
Bro, I remember watching Fringe when I was a kid. Hearing him explain the plot I realized, the amazing show that got me hooked on sci-fi could be dismissed as a fever dream
I watched it originally on tv. And I’ve watched twice all the way through and I still love the show as much as I did at first. Yes it’s campy and sometimes ridiculous but episodes like “the White Tulip” and the final episode, and season where Peter reconciles with Walter still makes me realize how great the show is. Watch it again. I promise you’ll change your opinion
@@HaloProductionsUSA The episode "Peter" where Walter explains everything to Olivia was just...damn.
@@logicplague oh it’s so good. John noble is a masterful actor
Vampire Daries similar shere it gets crazy and out of nowhere but with a lot more vampires
But it ended up where it deserved: top of the rank, best of the bunch!
Holy hell, that whole summary of Fringe was just insane
NOICE : )))))))))
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He managed to do a pretty good job 👍
That’s your standard Kurtzman and Orci written production. Managing to be pointlessly complicated while at the same time being thematically shallow and vapid and corny af
Fringe is trash
It hurt my head
"SPACE!"
- Communist Tim Curry
Tim Commie. You’re welcome.
@@mizzow7509 we are _forever_ in your debt
I really hope someone ask Tim Curry about his time in C&C
It’s pronounced “SSSSSBAYYSE” good sir. Get your facts straight.
Love RA3, that line's legendary.
“Italy got a coupon to Papa John’s”
Each of them got what they deserved for the work they did, Germany, half the world, Japan, the other half and Italy a coupon and getting devoured by Germany. Fun
To be fair, Italy gets absorbed and basically made its own huge "State" in the book, owning a good portion of Europe.
Nah
It's not like our scenario where Italy does nothing
The Italians had to help in the eastern front
But they got nothing
It's sad not being able to see Novus Imperium Romanum
@@MrSadisticLlama didn’t they also drain the Mediterranean Sea 🌊 in the book?
Or was that another story?
@@AmperahGaming Another Story, they don't mention that at all
@@Gia1911Logous i am a believer of your pfp
Man In The High Castle: A show that exists in a horrifying world where not really much actually happens on screen.
So our world, in essence
kinda sucks cause i feel like its set back alternate history shows as a concept
Seeing Kennedy International Airport named after George Lincoln Rockwell had me on the floor laughing.
I gave The Man in the High Castle a shot in 2017, and after two episodes came to the conclusion: BORING! 😴
@@broheim23 If I had made this series it would be with Juliana being the heroine of her story after accepting that she has to put an end to the Nazis especially because after her sister was killed it was because she killed Frank because he was a Jew, I would have made there action and Michel Bay-style exploits so that in the third season there are no interdimensional trips but that the Reich was with the colonization of Mars as it happens in the book and that he discovers that John Smith turns out to be the protagonist's father.
The end of the story would be a warlike hell.
Wolfenstein’s alternate history would be an awesome movie
Honestly though, it would be so much better without the games. You have this incredibly well-thought out (more or less) alternate history, then comes along BJ Blazkowicz with his big pow pow sticks to blow it all away and he somehow just liberates an entire continent more or less alone. It would be incredibly cool if the game took place from the perspective of a boots on the ground N#zi soldier in Africa or something.
@Annoying Fan It depends on what they can do with it. There is more than enough material to make a dystopia film, war drama, action film, anything. And honestly there is not a good althis TV series with Nazis. Personally, Man in the High Castle wasn't even good. Or alternate history really.
@Annoying Fan Yeah but Man in the High Castle also takes place in our universe. Our universe still happens. The Nazi universe just happens to be where it is set. Therefore it is not alternate history, no more than Futurama is.
Hell yeah dude!
Wolfenstein's alternate history would be an awesome reality
the irony of shows that start with the premise of alternate history end up being mediocre b-movie productions while b-movie productions that develop into an alternate history premise end up being pretty intriguing
Can you give me some recommandations about the latter?
“This stereotypical Nazi bad guy”
...But Reinhard Heydrich was literally like that. It isn’t even an exaggeration. 😂😂😂
And they assassinated him Inglorious Basterds style.
He was so evil, even other Nazis feared him and were glad he was dead.
He was evil by Nazi Standards, that's fucking impressive
@@AbrahamLincoln4 watch the movie Anthropoid a retelling of the effort to assassinate him.
I want a show/movie based on Turtledove’s The Man With the Iron Heart for real.
I've gotta say, as a fan of For All Mankind, the 2nd season really took things up a notch. Improved on the characters, improved on the situations, etc, besides one moment that any viewer of FAM will know what I mean. Plus the timelines start to get more diverted in interesting ways, such as 3 mile being avoided, John Lennon surviving, and Reagan being elected in the 70s. It's an interesting series, and I'm really hyped for Season 3
I really like the series a lot. Many people say it's woke pandering but I didn't really see it that way at all. During those times you had the anti-war counter culture and civil rights/feminist movements happening so it's very realistic to what was happening in those days.
Yes, I just did a whole paragaph bassicly correcting cody and adding on things, But season 1 is still pretty good, A great start to a amazing show
Ew Reagan
Bobby Kennedy got elected too, plus a woman (in my America??? 🇺🇸) who
SPOILERS
has to hide the fact that she's a lesbian (in my America??? 🇺🇸)
The third season is terrible, just awful.
The Man in the High Castle in general makes TNO: Last days of Europe a more realistic axis victory scenario
Verify your clock.
Yup. It wouldn't have been long before the Reich and Japan collapsed because of inherent problems with their systems.
@@yourboyskeeter nah The Great Trial awaits
Truly a bruh moment
yo Speer?
God I'm so glad that this was posted before Among Us turned into a meme. The astronauts would never live this shit down.
american
there is one commie among us
It would be easy to deal with, pull out the M1911
Scream
Reject
Accept
Seems kinda
S U S
Historians talking about 2020 be like
“A Recap. A Review. A Journey”
Spoiler:
It was a terrible journey filled with terrible events that could have been prevented!
Don't talk to me! I am famous! Don't dislike my good good GOOD videos! Don't talk to me, dear pino
More like the year where chinese slavery reached other countries
Lets throw lost cause myth believing historians out of helicopters.
2021 Be Like: Tutorials Complete!
23:57 John Smith knows Julianna is such a screw-up, he believes she can accidentally do worse to the Resistance than Smith can on purpose.
That is such a stupid, bizzare take to proverbially patch up a plot hole that it almost but still doesn't makes sense now that I've thought about this for too long
Also the show is shit
@@danieldubrovin8813welcome to fiction babyyyy
So like how Hilter was kept alive by the Allies because he was sabotaging the Nzai's?
For those who want to avoid spoilers for certain shows or just want time stamps for each section:
Intro: 0:00
For All Mankind: 1:09
Fringe: 4:04
NordVPN Sponsor Spot: 13:39
The Plot Against America: 14:48
The Man In the High Castle: 15:15
Juliana Crain Rant (spoilers for the first two seasons): 18:18
Season 1: 19:52
Season 2: 22:54
Season 3: 25:33
Season 4: 26:42
Ranking + Conclusion: 28:27
"Juliana Crain rant"
I think all MITHC fans feel that tbh
Man thanks, I didn't want spoliers for Nordvpn!
Dude thanks so much I'm watching for all mankind with my parents and don't want spoilers!
does anyone know what the clip of the giant alien attacking astronauts on the moon is from?
@@PrimalZ1 You’re welcome!
All this talk about multiple universes meeting each other makes me wonder what Hitler from The New Order would think about Germany from Kaiserreich.
Imagine if Himmler from TNO was a Nazi in real life. The results would be catastrophic; I'm glad he's just a fictional character.
@@avalynpoe4441 what do you mean Himmler a fictional character he is real he was a failed chicken farmer and led the SS and in TNO he had his own state
@@randomhistoryguy5204 ua-cam.com/video/xECUrlnXCqk/v-deo.html
Ehh. He would complains about something
KR AND TNO ARE SAME TIMELIME
I wanted Man in the High Castle to be good so bad, but this video has helped me finally accept that it wasn't. It really wasn't.
Cool soundtrack though.
If you want a good, disturbing alternate history where the Axis wins, I recommend two HOI4 mods: The New Order: Last Days of Europe, and Thousand-Week Reich. There’s also the book Fatherland.
@@ThatOneMan830 hahaha im literally looking for hoi4 mods and cruising this comment section as i type this. thanks man
This perfectly sums up my feelings. Such a cool concept, such poor execution
I live in Cañon City the main town/city in the damn show and the only thing they got right about us is the damn sign you see at the beginning of the first episode that the characters enter the town. We are basically a shrub desert, not some lush looking oregon town....
question, when is monte casino part 2 coming out?
01:09 For All Mankind
04:05 Fringe
13:39 Nord VPN Ad
14:50 Man in the High Castle
28:25 Ranking
Nord VPN is a sorely underrated Alternate Timeline
Nord VPN ad: 🍷🗿
Is Nord VPN on Netflix or HBO? sounds like a good binge i think.
Nord vpn is top alt histori
The plot to destroy America isn't here
"It's sounds like someone is landing it" - Alt Richard Nixon.
“It’s just a storm, Richard. Settle down.”
-Alt John F. Kennedy
Your Synopsis of "Fringe" gave me a headache. In this universe.
The fact that he’s the only person on UA-cam to talk about how terrible man in the high castle is is giving me a migraine in three universes
The CGI for Fringe is giving me a headache.
@@jasonshaneyfelt1039 Its the best headache ever
Fringe is like the live action JOJO part 6 the final arc only becuz it f***ing ruined evrything
For a second I thought I was watching KnowledgeHub
Knowledge Hub is just alternate universe Alternatehistoryhub
I thought I was watching monsieur z
You're watching fortnite bro
Not enough acid to be a KnowledgeHub Video
Yes
The Boy in the Tall Tower show is a shining example of the phrase “the book was better!”
Even then the book isn't that good.
And even the book isn’t that good, enjoyable but not world changing, I find it hilarious that people can’t stand the characters in the show that are actually in the book
The Lad in the Elevated Fortress
@@okruma625 yes, is not that good, even seems bad compare with literally any book written by Philip K. Penis
And given that the book is fucking awful, that's a ringing dismissal by itself.
Alternate history idea: what if Alternate history and knowledge hub never existed.
NOOOO!!
Cody would have become president and we'd be on Mars by now. Also zeppelins replace cars
I wouldn't been interested in alternate history, unless I accidentally discover Whatifalthist (like how I accidentally discovered Oversimplified through memes)
Cody was who hot me hooked to alternate history in the first place
There'd be someone else who will open up a similar channel.
Man in the High Castle was ruined for me when they pulled "oh lol we can change realities hahah". It just completely ruins it for me.
It was actually an idea from the draft of the sequel that PKD never released due to being soul-drained by his research on National Socialist Germany.
Yeah if you're gonna do a Nazi Victory story, it ruins it to give your characters an escape hatch. The entire premise of the Nazis winning is that the world is irrevocably fucked.
@@NathanTAK Its just a way to make the reader feel good about themselves because "the good guys are always supposed to win" *insert soyjak here*
For once I want a story where Germany isn't doomed to fall, which the very concept of is completely spitting on the sacrifice allied soldiers gave in the war.
For me it isn’t so much the fact that some people travel to other universes it’s that we know how it works and it can be done consistently. Tagomi’s miracle and the film’s. Sure it’s acceptable But when people are Apparently doing it constantly you ruined basically the entire story.
@@zemowit I don't think that's true. The Reich was built on pillars of sand but the harm it would have done before, during, and after its collapse was absolutely worth doing everything in our power to stop it from getting to that point
It was nice of Cody to include his wife in the video. Good for him.
Where was that
Try to explain Fringe
- > No that sounds like the stupidest thing I ever heard of. I'm not watching it.
Force them to watch 2 seasons.
- > Thanks, that was great.
No that sounds like the stupidest thing i ever heard of. I'm not watching it.
@@אוהדאריאליופה your loss. It’s a pretty good show.
Ive watched it twice maybe my favorite show
Many things sound stupid when taken out of the context. The show makes sense when actually watching the episodes.
I like SCP and X Files so i thought it was pretty fun, just bonkers sh*t i wanna watch.
I am surprised that you didnt even mention the "Black Communist" group in season 4 that appeared out of no where and wasnt mention in the previous 3 seasons.
Dont forget that it also mentioned that japan is still fighting in china and that this superpower cant fight against a rag tag chinese army
@@idk6446whatever Vietnam
Yeah season 4 felt so disjointed from the earlier seasons because of stuff like this
@@sleepy0 The NVA wasn't a rag tag army.
@@michaelcunningham6457 the Vietcong were tho
Fringe was the absolute bomb. I still can’t believe Kurtzman was involved. I think he and J.J.Abrams need each other to make good tv.
Uhh
You forget they kamikaze bombed it in the last season, didn't ya?
@@FreyaEinde No, the final season is great and was what the show was going towards. You just sound like you horrid taste.
Robert Orchi was also there. So it sounds like they need each other to get anything good out.
I LOVED fringe. I watched years after it was already done. Hearing your comical description of it made me laugh my ass off. I would suggest all of you watch it and great review of it!
For all mankind is also very much worth a watch!
"Boy in the Tall Tower"
Aaaaaand I choked on my coffee.
Sounds like a horror story actually
Made my night as well. We simply don't deserve Cody.
Male in the Elevated Fortress
"boy in the tall tower" that made my day
'whatever Harry Turtledove decided to slap together'
It's time travel with some South African mercs to bring a couple crates of AK's to Robert E. Lee time.
HT novel plots sound like random ideas from a stoner
Aw shit, here we go again-
Oh you mean like "Custer brings gatling guns and survives until World War 1"?
Yes, like how Southern Victory went from decent alternate history to having WW1 start in almost the exact same way.
@@sarkasmomancer266 Well admittedly it was all a matter of how the allies worked out and then you just have to follow the dotted lines. He just takes a very long route from the south was allied with the English to the north was allied with the Germans and how that's why we have Civil War 3.
I watched The Plot Against America recently and it is now one of my favorite shows. The show actually makes you care about what’s happening to both the characters and to America as a whole.
Me: I loved man in the high castle.
Him: We don't do that here.
Season 1 was alright, I gave up on the 3rd episode of the 2nd season
@@donatter1042 same to be honest. I wasted a week to watch season 1. I had to watch Amazon Riders to remind myself what good television was like
Honestly the ending for Man in the High Castle was disappointing
So basically, Man in the High Tower can be summed up by one Dr. Who clip.
Cyberman: "Is this the human condition of madness, Leader?"
Leader: "It is."
Of course Shang Tsung can travel between alternate timelines. What's so hard to grasp about that?
Your soul is MINE!
Flower
@@evilbird4012 what?
@@Mothlord03 See that heart?
For the man in the high castle, the reason why Germany did not immediately go to war with Japan was because they were still fighting WWII in the Urals while Japan was still fighting in China and Siberia (this is mentioned briefly when we see resistance received weapons). The uncolored areas are regions out of both governments control (and Germany annexed Italy).
It is unfortunate that none of this was shown despite how interesting they are
I couldn't read this without bursting out laughing at the sheer stupidity of that scenario (no offense to you, the novels themselves were batshit crazy)
@@emmisysquire9684 I mean, it is quite realistic tho. Even under the crazy scenario where Germany and Japan won there is no way they have the resource to hold and stabilize the region. As stupid as it is the premise is just impossible.
@@emmisysquire9684 if germany had make a nuclear bomb
“Gee, I love reading about history, but what if things would have happened differently? I would love to read about it!”
Turtledove: “I’m bout to start this whole genre”
Turtledove didn’t start this genre. It existed well before him. Though there are others, “Bring the Jubilee”, which I believe was published some time in the ‘50s, comes to mind.
so fringe is basically a universe where the scp foundation just gives up and puts all the burden on a even more weak UIU
No. The main idea behind Fringe is the phrase, "what hath science wrought?" -- a huge majority of the problems in the show ultimately come down to people misusing the advancement of technology or science for any number of reasons -- some people do it for genuinely touching or noble (in theory) reasons, while others misuse them for horrid and evil reasons. The alternate universe is a thing that simply exists on its own, just as any number of multiverse theories posit, but one of the main characters' (Walter Bishop) ambitions drive things to go out of wack.
Fringe Division's job is to try to counteract these "fringe events". Very rarely are they not manmade in some way.
I would highly recommend giving the show a watch, because it certainly is not mediocre and has a very touching, intimate story.
@@AstralBelt I hope you know what the scp universe even is
@@starleighpersonal Based on your response, do you...? It is a universe where all sorts of anomalies, creatures, etc exist. That is not even remotely similar to what is in Fringe.
@@AstralBelt did you read any article beyond 1000?
@@AstralBelt yeahs
"Boy in the tall tower" got me so offguard jesus, i was spilling coffee everywhere. 10/10
I like "For All Mankind". I think it's certainly worth the time (8/10).
I do too! It gets better during S2 and S3 is going well so far
I agree, i dont really care much for the character developments, but other than that all three seasons are really good
Yes. Definitely watch it
Season 3 Was especially interesting, showing a Mars landing in the 90s
@@chheinrich8486 agreed, the timeline of the show is really interesting, and i wonder what its like to live in it
As a persons who’s read Man in the high castle. It sounds like the show really followed the book. Taking too long to ultimately do nothing thus wasting the characters, setting, and idea in the process.
Blame Amazon for cancelling the show and firing it's creator.
@@luisisaacdelarosabeltran why would that mean you blame amazon? The show was bad from the get go (this video shows that entirely). Canceling it is probably good if anything, and the source material is also very bad so there’s no savior there. It’s just a bad story that was handled poorly as well.
@@metronicmagician1816 It started with potential that unfortunately never got to be fully explored due to the before-mentioned events.
@@metronicmagician1816 PKD had a way to write books and this is unique like the others. Is depressive because is an universe where German Nazis and Imperial Japanese are controlling the world, so it's justified. A sequel was on the works but PKD could bring himself to do more research since it had been soul-draining the research he did for Nazi Germany.
@@luisisaacdelarosabeltran I mean having read the book It’s utter garbage. The book takes way to long to forward a plot, and instead of just not having a plot which would totally work he rushed a third act plot that only messed things up, and hurt the narrative they were building. Also the book has virtually no Nazi stuff in it, and was more about a Japanese San Francisco than anything else. It didn’t work, and the only thing that kept it floating was the premise which only gets half used because again they never go to the nazi side of the US. It’s entirely set in San Francisco, and 2 bits of the Neutral Zone. I’m sorry, but it’s just not a good book because how poorly the story itself was handled.
How to fix Man in the High Castle
1. We don't have Juliana start killing everyone she meets
2. We have more action
3. We get rid of the BCR, that whole thing was stupid
4. We remove the multiverse stuff, and instead have it as a fake propaganda film
6. We don't forget about Ed
7. More Volkshalle. I loved it
8. More Nazi buildings, I wanna see that Nazi Stadium
9. We don't kill Tagomi
10, We actually give it a proper ending.
maybe also add a few shots of mainland Japan (alt Tokyo would be nice to see and compare to the capital of the Reich)
@@johannesamores3256 Their one missed opportunity. I mean I really like the show's effort in world building, but that's the only thing missing.
Yes that sounds perfect
@@johannesamores3256 You're goddamn right. And what about L.A.? Is there a Japanese Hollywood?
Ffs when I saw Tagomi die off-screen in the first minutes of Season 4 I knew it was gonna be a rough ride.
I feel like cody is trying to one up his brother now in weirdness and I approve of the timeline where cody and tyler are competing for there insane audiences brains.
The Drug Wars: Hub Edition.
I'm side Cody. At least Cody is still making videos relevant to what his channel is supposed to be rather than having it go completely off the rails to the determent of the people who preferred how the channel used to be.
I noticed he edits similar to Tyler now
@@JJAB91 I completely disagree I love that tyler is an insane goblin man now and every video he makes is a trip and what the channel is, but if that’s how you feel that’s fine I did enjoy the old style too..
@@DeanmC261993 kek, insane goblin man
Fringe is 1 of my favorite sci-fi shows ever. It goes absolutely batshit, but it's an immensely satisfying experience. If no one here has ever seen it, please go do so. It's genuinely one of those underrated gems.
Totally agree!
I absolutely love how chaotic this episode is. It’s a fun change of pace from the more intellectual and logical videos
It also shows a possible source of Tyler's madness. I was getting crazy trying to understand the plot of Fringe.
As long as he doesn't go full Tyler. If you like Tyler's new stuff thats great but if you subbed to him because of the videos he used to make this sudden change is pretty much a big fuck you to long time subs.
@@JJAB91 I get that but I’ve been watching his vids for a long time and I’m not particularly offended. People evolve and so does their content. But I get you, I don’t particularly want this style to be the new normal either but as far as the occasional video, I don’t mind it
you should make a video on The New Order: Last Days of Europe hoi4 mod, the story and lore is super rich
yeah
i need to catch up on it
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"Wants to destroy both universes."
Sounds like typical Leonard Nemoy.
TIL the Man in the High Castle is just Cody but old and in the 60s.
Brother, I felt exactly the same way about Julianna Crane. Any amount of time or brainpower expended on writing her character was entirely wasted
TNO > men in the high castle.
Ranking alternate history by how much himmler it hás
Edit: this comment has officially been liked by all ordenstadt mains
Ah yes TNO a timeline where either a shrimp boat starts a nuclear war or a cocaine addicted obese goering invades everywhere and start a nuclear war with either japan or america
@@randomhistoryguy5204 he doesn't invades, he vores 😎
@@quedtion_marks_kirby_modding Goering war plans can be summed as him going eating everything and somehow saves humanity in one of them
@@randomhistoryguy5204 and dooming it in 2 of them.
The man in the high castle
More like
the show without a ending
Doctor Who: "AMATEURS"
@@ethanrappthefilmmaker Professor Why is still a thing!?
@@DakotaofRaptors Yes, although the previous 2 seasons were not very well received. Everything before that has been very good though.
Right? I actually doubled back on the episodes to make sure I hadn’t missed any.
You have to travel to an alternate reality to find the ending
The man in the high castle should’ve been about John Smith and his redemption. I feel like it would’ve been more interesting
True. There were a lot of scenes that show Smith wasn't entirely in line with the Nazi system. But all those scenes ended up going absolutely nowhere cuz he dies in the end as a generic bad guy who wants to do bad things rather than a complex and interesting character.
@@ragingshibe Unfortunately, the cancellation ruined everything!
Unpopular opinion. I don’t like season 4 BUT John shooting himself slightly redeemed it. It proved at that point he didn’t care about family since his two daughters were alive, he only cared about power. Then the rest of the finale ruined it.
also the guy who plays john smith is INCREDIBLE
Smith carried the show all the way until the end when he ruined it all
R.I.P. Lance Reddick. He was a great actor, will be sorely missed
5:36 "Man bear pig is real. It is half man, half bear, half pig. You have to believe me!"
- Al Gore
He's super serial
The really depressing thing about Man in the High Castle is.... you had an incredibly powerful setting and this is the best story you can make with it?
What can I say, Amazon is the king of wasted potential when it comes to series and games.
that is what tends to just happen, take an interesting setting and make it into cheap drama
Do a video on the lore of the HOI4 mod The New Order. It’s a alt-history mod with hella good writing (and a healthy dose of grim dark too)
Yes TNO the timeline where a shrimp boat starts a nuclear war or a cocaine addicted obese goering invades the US or Japan and ends the world
There's no point in him doing a video on it as it's too small, is quite new, has very vague lore that for some parts is literally the spirit of Rommel shits out panzers so Germany wins plus last time Cody did a HOI4 mod it didn't go well at all
@@nicole3002 idk what you’re talking about... the video has the most views out of his videos for a while
@@the_beast183 Some of the Kaiserriech fans got toxic on twitter
@@nicole3002 What did they say? Personally I love Kaiserreich and I had no issue with the video.
I never thought I needed to see Hitler flossing but I really did
I still want to know what video that clip is from.
It’s from a video called “May 2020” by delak, and it’s glorious
There was a show on Spike TV that was simply called "Alternate History" and episode 1 was what if Germany won WWII.
And it was garbage.
@@Ray-xq3cx Yes, it was.
That first episode was such an America circle jerk lmao, almost nothing about it was based on realism and didn’t even bother getting too specific other than “SINCE WE’RE BADASS AMERICANS WE’LL EVENTUALLY DEFEAT THE NAZI SCUM”
There was another series where the 30 years war goes different IIRC, also on spike. Or maybe it was an episode from that series
Alternate history show writer: Oh boy, this last season is going to be a rollercoaster.
Me: Don't do it.
Writer: Don't do what?
Me: Don't do it. You better not.
Writer: What do you mean? I'm so confus-
**snatches notes out of writer's hands**
Writer: I-I can explain.
Me: Why do your notes say a portal to another universe?
Writer: No you don't understand.
Me: You have an entire page titled "Ideas I Want to Steal From Fringe"
Writer: I would never steal from-
Me: Let me read this out loud to you, "Abe Lincoln is warned by alternate universe Ulysses S. Grant that there will be an assassination attempt against him by John Wilkes Booth, who is trapped in between universes, and the only way to stop him is to kill alternate Rob Lincoln who was kidnapped by Lincoln from our timeline in season 1."
Writer: See! I would never steal from Fringe.
Me: WDYM!? This is just Fringe set in the Civil War!
Imagine if Kaiserreich had a show
It would need to be fleshed out a lot more. There would need to be an accepted canon.
@@brunofshr5170 Talk about a blue-ball ending. Fans would demand a continuation.
@@DarthEstebanMontoya the last minutes of the last episode are just the trailer of paradox's standalone Kaiserreich(tm), and then a code that will give you 2% discount in the $2999,99 season pass for the first 300 people to pre-order
i understand kaiser cat is working on such series
It's being worked on.
“They paid me to go see the pilot” (proceeds to look at camera with utter disappointment)
Alternate History is just a Historian's Fan Fiction.
your not wrong
Until it becomes a reality
*change my mind*
So a Mary Sue that's hated by everyone... we should call that a Jar Jar.
Except Jar Jar is good at something: Diplomacy. He became a Senator, and solved several "interplanetary incidents." Unlike juul vape who literally fucks over everyone she comes within speaking distance of.
You mean Rey Palp- err, SKYWALKER?
@@TheStonewall117 identify theft is no joke Luke.
- Obi wan
@@comradekenobi6908 the funny thing is, I remember when people thought she was YOUR granddaughter, General Kenobi
@@TheStonewall117 she is nobody
Media criticism has become more interesting than the shows. Only a critic can afford all of these streaming services -- in the form of a tax write-off.
I like how following seasons of For All Mankind start with passage-of-time montages that include throwaway news articles like "Michael Jordan drafted by Portland Trailblazers" and "Michael Jordan and Randy Johnson lead Seattle Mariners to ALCS for second time in three years."
Thus forcing me to wonder what sort of butterfly effect shenanigans lead to Jordan being an elite baseball player but also A) he's still an elite basketball player, B) the Trailblazers were still in position to draft him and C) Randy Johnson still finds his way onto the Mariners.
I'm going to say it despite hating everything Kurtzman has done since:
Fringe was better than the X-Files. The mystery box actually worked. And Kurtzman's tinfoil hat paranoia actually works when writing a series set in a universe where every tinfoil hat theory is true.
Plus, John Noble was an absolute genius. Anna was the perfect foil for his insanity. And they didn't do the stupid, "skeptic/believer" trick for years even when it was clear they were in tinfoil world.
Doctor Wollenseuss _Once more unto the breach, dear friends, though we fill it up with our Fringe-fan dead_
. -William Shakespeare, Richard III (pretty sure I got that right)
Srsly tho, Noble chewing the scenery = fried gold
Despite Kurtzman and Abrams being on board, this video really piqued my interest for Fringe, I knew of its existence for the longest time but only assumed it was some cop show.
One of my favourite sci-fy shows ever. Loved the gorey mysteries and the overall plot. Sure it has its flaws but Walter, Peter, Olivia and all the Observers you can spot along the way hold a special place in my heart.
I wish the pair would team up and do original things instead of trashing all over Star Trek. Fringe was actually a fun show.
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It began as one.
The early episodes were so dull I gave up on it, and so missed the delightfully bonkers later seasons.
After seeing all the little memes in the edits of this video and all the references and low key opinions thrown in, I am now convinced Cody is literally exactly the same person as me with the same interests, sense of humor, pop culture taste and pretty much everything else media related.
Jesus Fringe sounds like a fever dream. I was getting anxious just listening to Cody describe that clusterfuck of a plot. How do these shows get greenlighted but My Name Is Earl gets cancelled with a cliffhanger??
It's a great show?
Just watch it please. Cody done this gem of a show dirty. Its great.
It makes sense. Just watch the show.
My boi dropping my name is earl out here
I loved Fringe. It started really slow and I almost quit, but it got more and more insane as it went on.
Cody: *makes another 40k reference*
Me: you are a good man thank you
Not only 40k reference but allso TTS reference.
@@kubakornijenko1927 He's done this before?
@@Darkfawfulx no. I'm just glad that he did a TTS reference.
@@kubakornijenko1927 I caught it aswell. I'm just not used to his references.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
The "Space" clip from Red Alert still gets me...
Cody: “...steampunk or GRIM DARK.”
[proceeds to show exterminatus]
Me: In the name of the Emperor!
Kody watch "If the Emperor had Text to Speach" NICE!!
Why has Cody not admitted that he hates Furries yet? The coward.
"THEY CAN'T EVEN WRITE!"
*EVEN GODS MAY DIE*
For All Mankind really improved as it went
I, for one, am glad such a relatively experimentally-wacky show like _Fringe_ existed to fill the monotony of television at the time.
Doctors who usually scratch’s that itch for me
I still desire an Alternate History Scenario where Goergy Malenkov or Lavrentiy Beria won the post Stalin power struggle as opposed to Nikita Khrushchev. Like so Cody see's this.
What’s the difference between Nikita and Malenkov?
watch "The Death of Stalin" you know the movie, its pretty funny, and i think it kind of shows the character of both those guys and what they intended to do after Stalin.
turns out after Stalin's death Beria basically switched sides, and planned on releasing all the prisoners and stopping deportation, including many un-stalin like reforms.
this is stark contrast to what the terrible things he did under stalin. so it seems in order to secure his own power he would have tried to enact some kind of reform, and somehow purge the rest of the people who oppose him, or something...
i don't know how he would have done that, because almost everyone HATED him, so i am not sure if he would even have the support to gain power like that.
as for Georgy Malenkov, he was initially the temporary leader of the USSR after stalin, but then kruschev quickly deposed him soon after. if he stayed, well he had a more conservative mindset, and still believed in many stalinist ideals, so probably LESS reform than under kruschev.
@@livethefuture2492 it’s OTL tho
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Malenkov was less weird.
Summing up Fringe makes it sound dumb, but it's genuinely an extremely fun show for the first two seasons especially - it's like a 2000s version of the X-Files but zanier.
I really REALLY want to like Man in the High Castle, it had really really great set design that sold the world, and a lot of tense moments, and enough interesting ideas and storylines to string you along through the "boring" parts. I even thought the twist that our timeline exists was really cool... But even if you liked the show for a while, the final season REALLY falls apart, even though it set up something really cool conceptually. The end doesn't solve anything and leaves a lot of loose threads.
Man in the High Castle is true pain. Juliana is absolutely the WORST main character ever created. She is truly awful in every way possible. Also hoped that Joe was gonna be a good guy but turned out to be a dang ol' "Notsee".
Last thing: Tagomi is a sigma male.
I love fringe. Haven't watched it for like 3 years, I should rewatch it again
The last thing i remember was Peter disappearing. Not sure if i stopped watching there or just forgot the rest, but now i want to rewatch. I remember screaming when the dude’s jawbone falls off in Ep 1.
I love it too
I enjoyed Fringe.
FRINGE doesn’t get nearly the love it deserves, it’s a big reason I got into alternate history. Those early Red Universe episodes were like shucking fine oysters, just gems left and right like the East Texas smallpox epidemic or the White House being rebuilt after 9/11.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on Dude in the Huge Castle and Juliana specifically. As a big fan of AltHist and Saint PDK I saw the novel I loved disfigured and desecrated, all I heard season after season was “yeah it’s p good, alternate history finally making it big time” and I wondered if Juliana was supposed to be the secret villain of the show.
I'd love to see a show based on the novel _1632,_ where a town in West Virginia is taken back in time to Germany during the thirty years war.
It is a beautiful Amurika' power fantasy.
Wait, are you serious ?
I'd rather not, there are better stories to adap- on second thought, yeah go ahead, I don't want TV and Hollyweird execs to lay a finger on any althistory universe I'm actually invested in.
I would like more a show about the actual 30 years war, such huge conflict and yet it remains forgotten by most people.
@@nicholasleclerc1583 um... yeah
@@bjorntheviking6039 Is this series disliked by the alt history community or something? I thoroughly enjoyed it.
You can tell when a show has an impact if Cody is able to remember anything about the characters or plots
Doesn’t necessarily mean they’re good, but impactful
Red Alert still has the best alt history story
SPAYCE!
And the best theme song.
Your intellect is as weak as your dollar
@@Watchmanskey Most dollars burn
Something odd I noticed: At 24:40 when the guards are holding back John's wife, they're wearing Strichtarn, a camouflage pattern developed in East Germany in the 1960s.
It’s an alternate 1960s
Isn’t The Boys technically alternate history, since it matches up one to one with our world up until (for the sake of no spoilers) the twentieth century, at which point superheroes become a thing? Cause if so, I’d love to see you analyze it
Sounds like Watchmen
@@TheDaks27 Watchmen but with a lot more *super*heroes
@@TheDaks27 they’re both similar in many ways, but The Boys differs in a few major ways:
-it’s live action adaption is way better
-it comments more on modern America and corporate entanglement in politics
-since it’s a show, it has more time to explore its many characters
By that logic, every superhero series is alternate history. Seriously, the only thing that significantly changes on The Boys is where 9/11 happened as well as homosexuality not being accepted mainstream.
In the comics the airplanes of 9/11 were all taken down by U.S. Aviation except one because The Sevens had to make a stunt and save the plane themselves but it goes terribly wrong and instead crashes into the Brooklyn bridge
Fringe is a show about the mistakes made by a scientist on LSD, which the show itself was a mistake made by a production team that was on LSD.
I like Harry Turtledove.
That Worldwar series about "what if aliens attacked during WW2?" was awesome.
Oh god, is Alternatehistoryhub becoming knowledgehub? Can't wait for the endless shitposting
We all know the best Alternate History story is My Little Pony: Equestria Girls
No!
It's adventure time
Clearly their artstyle could get a little rework, I mean come on! Humans with 70% legs?
Althistoryhub is a little pony liberal
@@randomgamer2955 Damn dude you killed him.
no it's akira
First season of Man in the High Castle was actually not bad, but the alternate universe portal in a coal mine killed it for me
I’ve been watching The Man in the High Castle recently, and I have to say, it makes for a GREAT comedy! The plot and characters just try to take themselves so seriously that you just can’t believe them, which makes it hilarious. And they have to remind you every 10 goddamn minutes that the Nazis and Japanese won the war. Can’t wait to watch more!