We had a real screw up on TV up here in Canada. Instead of a music video ,they played five minutes of an adult movie. Fortunately ,it was at one thirty in the morning. This happened over thirty years ago.
I found out that by watching the scrambled Playboy channel on an older TV by switching those levers on the back, u could get in the full channel, but only in Black n white. Lol I kept that TV for years until the Playboy channel was off the air. Lol as a 14 year old this was gold!
I was there, 4 years old at the first showing that day. They let everyone that was at the first showing come back that evening to see it again for free. It is quite strange to me to see a piece of history that I was a part of being presented by someone else on UA-cam. Good old Sweetwater, on the edge of National City and Chula Vista CA. They had a great arcade next door to the theater!
@shanester1832 LOL! I am not sure. The early 80s were wild in Southern California. I remember the day, but since I was so young, and 40+ years back, it is not super clear. There were multiple stories by the different news stations in town about this, and on one of the stories, you can see my mom and I leaving the theater. I remember people were extremely angry. We were given enough passes that my brothers, parents and myself all got to see the movie that same night. They packed the theater to standing room to the point the fire department showed up but instead of shutting it down, they stood and watched it from the back! The 80s were definitely their own weird era!
@thetabletopsupershow3670 bad event, cool story. I was around in the 80s but don't have many fleshed out memories. It was less neon and Lamborghinis and more particle board walls and bad haircuts. Everything was definitely much more lax and cool. I bet that manager had somebody's kneecaps taken care of.
Former projectionist here. This would've been a system before my time where they switched reels manually using cues, the cigarette burns in the corner. That would be an unnecessary gamble to hope a reel gets there in time. No way. How we did it was assemble all the reels together, splicing & taping the film. You preview the night before to catch problems then it's smooth sailing.
That's something I was always interested in was running a projector and splicing/editing film. I had an animation project in mind and wanted it to be as organic and old fashioned as possible, but with very minimal computer involved
@tperson8347 I don't know what's standard anymore. I guess they still use film because the entire system around distribution has been built and digital would be too easy to pirate. Film is pretty unforgiving. Fingerprint here, dust there, it touched the roller wrong now there's a vertical scratch. It's all pretty straightforward. It would probably be some level of ordeal to get your sequences printed on film like that.
I haven’t seen film in ages. Most are Cinema Package which includes the movie file along with subtitles, audio tracks, it’s encrypted hard drives or sent over secure internet connections directly to the theater's server.
@@ThatJunkman man, that just feels kinda soulless. The 1st time I saw digital was a showing of some classic from the 80s 10+ years ago. I thought we were getting the theater experience then I saw some DVD player loading info projected in the corner and felt ripped off. On the other hand, no scratches, consistent quality, fewer areas for errors to occur.
First time a few of my friends and I saw Pulp Fiction, we got there late and missed a portion of the beginning, so we stayed until the next viewing to catch up where we picked up.
I was across town that day for the opening of Jedi at La Jolla village Theater I left school early and purchased tickets for two of my high school teachers their wives and five of my friends
My favorite is going to cheap movie theaters that lacked surround sound and they'd play a surround sound movie and some of the characters on half the screen had no voice if they'd move to the left or right depending on what channel speakers weren't there. LOL. I saw Star Trek 6 in the cheap theater and since Kik is never still, he'd start a sentence, walk across the screen and go silent. LOL. Ships might occasionally lose sound, along with only half a music track not heard. I remember watching it years later thinking 'where are all the funny moments where Kirk sut up mid sentence?'
@tperson8347 I saw them all in the wrong order, lol. I saw the first one then 4, then 2, then 5 and 6, then finally 3, then after Generations I didn't follow the movies anymore. The first one with the Next Generation crew, it didn't feel like the show always did. I don't know. The Next Generation show had the feel like they enjoyed doing the show till like the last season where it felt a lil dry, but the Next Generation movies always felt to me like the cast was doing it like a job. The acting felt a little flat. The Borg was overdone for me too. But I don't hate or bash it. I know die-hard fans enjoy them, but for me Picard seasons 1 and 3 are perfectly fine as Next Generation closures. Overall the cast themselves got the closure they wanted. Picard season 2, that's a Patrick Stewart ego gone too wild. Too much Picard overacting drama acting and recycled story and all. Stewart's acting is just right without depressing retired old man scene crap, which is pretty much what annoys me the most with all three seasons. Picard as he always was, was never ready to retire or moan of being old....Star Trek shouldn't be Golden Girls in space.
I remember going to the midnight premiere of Episode 3 with my brother and near the end of the film the movie kept cutting to a computer screen-saver. I'm guessing it was a digital projection and, since it was around 1-2 AM by this point, the person running the projector probably kept falling asleep. Or, since it seemed to keep happening at key points in the film, I'm assuming some disgruntled employee was just trying to ruin the experience for everyone. The worst timing was during Anakin and Obi-Wan's fight and one moment we see Obi-Wan mention something about the high ground, then it cut to a screensaver for a few seconds (by this time people were getting very vocally angry about the situation), then it cuts back to the film and Anakin is on the ground with all his limbs chopped off. This probably contributed to the fact that I had a very, very low opinion of Episode 3 and didn't even attempt to watch it again until it was released on DVD.
I think you've resolved an old question I had about ROTJ. I've got an old film review book from the early 1990s which referred to riots when the film was first screened somewhere. They however suggested people were rioting because they thought part of the actual film was missing regarding Luke's Jedi training.
The film broke when I was watching Return Of The Jedi at the theater. Right when Leia met Wicket. Fortunately this was during my third or so viewing of the film, so I didn't miss anything.
This brings to mind another movie similar to the circumstances to, "Star Wars, Return of the Jedi". "Die Hard 2" where John McClane is fighting terrorists at the airport in Washington, DC. That film reel was done at least 12 hours before the film was to be released. I remember that well. And, I was there when some of the technical people, who were exhausted, who checked into the hotel in West Hollywood California, were all like one big relief of, WHEW!!! WE made it". Since that time, I am not surprised if a movie reel, or scenes, are missing from a film at a premiere.
Saw Captain America in 2011 and it went out when he jumped in to the back of the Hydra truck in the big rescue scene. Had to get my money back and go watch it again.
The worst thing i've ever seen was the Fellowship of the Ring print breaking during the movie. Right when the Ringwraiths show up. Stopped the film hot cement splice, twenty minutes later start from where we left off missing that few seconds but no problems. You don't have that problem with digital.
I Remember in 1983 VHS Bootleg reports of Film Piracy of stolen 35mm Reels that were stolen! If memory serves British Columbia in Canada had a Video Piracy record of Releasing Illegal films on Home Video.
I would have cried as a kid. Now i would have been pissed. Well now it would be Disney starwars so i wouldn't give a F. Probably be happy i didn't have see my beloved SW get destroyed more.
A similar thing happened to me when I went to see the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. About 30 or 45 minutes into the movie it switched to another reel of previews and commercials for the theater. I'm thankful that when I went to see Return Of The Jedi back in 83 and the movie was complete and they had the characters of Star Wars there as a meet and greet for the movie. And I remember I actually thought the person playing Luke Skywalker really looked like Mark Hamil and Chewbacca was so big I remembered him putting me on his shoulders and carrying me into the movie and all the other kids were jealous and pissed off that Chewbacca picked me up and did that but I thought it was the best day of my child life 😂
I didn't know young ladies were cosplaying as Imperial officers back in 1983. Couldn't have been easy to buy a costume like than back then, unless it was custom made.
God, I wish I went to her school back then. I would've been about the same age and she could have had a costuming buddy. Certainly weren't any girls at my school into Star Wars, or scifi or anything else that was "nerdy" at the time.
I was three when I saw this in theatre. I would have been heart broken 😂 They had Han Solo in carbonite in the lobby. It was awesome 😎 one of my favourite memories ever!
I hope you mention what footage this reel 4 contained. Okay. If it’s 20 minutes per reel, then this may begin around 80 minutes into the movie. I’m going to guess it’s in the second half of the movie, when they’re venturing into Endor and Luke confronts Vader with that corridor walk.
@@visionaryventures12 this could be replicated to flare up PTSD for the survivors of the incident. You'd need to track down a bootleg of ROTJ and look for the exact spots where the subtle flashing indicators in the corner show up. It wouldn't be 20 minutes on the dot but something close to that. It was clearly a jarring and obvious jump that the crowd was immediately aware of.
Hey Junkman the manager of the theatre should have gone to the front of the crowd and said "don't get angry because anger Leeds to the dark side"he might have got beat up but he could always use the force 😮
This would really blow feces for sure. I can only imagine. I'm in total agreement, film is better. It's more alive, more organic. I'm honestly bored of HD TV. Plus look at alot of the pictures that are put out in ads and catalogs, they're so grainy. I've got 100 year old photographs on those steel plates that are much, much clearer than that. I still love that guy's fake mustache. It makes me giggle like a turkey. :) Thanks for the video
@@michaelharrington75 I would imagine simple human error. They spend all day putting reels into these octagon shaped metal shipping cans, one after another. Thousands of thankless successful jobs, one slip up and it's a national news story. It could've been due to the size of the can. They used empty reels to fill the empty space so it wouldn't rattle around. An empty went where 4 was supposed to go, meanwhile another theater got two reel 4s. Not that I was there or was responsible, but if I was, let it go people! I didn't intend to ruin people's precious experience.
The difference between then and now ??? Back then if people didn’t like things they shouted it out right at ya today if people don’t like things they write them in the comments 😇😇😇
I once bought a bunch of BETA Tapes at a yard sale. There was a couple and the guys wife was very "name your price and take them". I was hoping for commercials. The first one had a kids ball game. Dad, i assume, cheers on someone named Michael. I fast forward but didn't see any ads. Cool but nothing i was looking for. I put the next one in and there is a stripper on a pole. She was on the next 5 tapes as well with a large date telling me it was done November 27 1980 and that date was on all the remaining 5 tapes and so was the stripper. So im guessing some guy brought in a big ass beta camera to record a bachelor party or just a night out. I then understood why wifey wanted it sold so quickly lol
I went t see in 1982 Star Wars and Empire Strikes double bill at my local cinema. Star Wars as up to the bit just before Han, Luke etc went into the Death Star, the movie then jumped 20 minutes back and repeated that reel again, then jumped to the attack on the Death Star.. Many got they money back and were told a complete version would be shown later that week. I stayed as Empire would be my 4th time in seeing this movie at the cinema.
Star wars fans have been angry since the teddy bears in the 80's they need to grow up and accept its for children and that its not obligated to age with them.
We had that with a showing of Spider-man 2. Film broke after 2 minutes and started to unspool in the projectionists booth. The Projectionist had stepped out of his booth to go out for a smoke. Didn’t get to see the movie. At least we got a refund.
We had a real screw up on TV up here in Canada. Instead of a music video ,they played five minutes of an adult movie. Fortunately ,it was at one thirty in the morning. This happened over thirty years ago.
Oh Canada 🫡🇨🇦😂
@@Kingofthecastle79Didn't you mean, OH! OH! OH! CANADA!?
I found out that by watching the scrambled Playboy channel on an older TV by switching those levers on the back, u could get in the full channel, but only in Black n white. Lol
I kept that TV for years until the Playboy channel was off the air. Lol as a 14 year old this was gold!
Much Music was only 2-3 years old and was one of the first "premium" channels available in Canada at the time.
Ugh, toxic star wars fans!
I was there, 4 years old at the first showing that day. They let everyone that was at the first showing come back that evening to see it again for free. It is quite strange to me to see a piece of history that I was a part of being presented by someone else on UA-cam. Good old Sweetwater, on the edge of National City and Chula Vista CA. They had a great arcade next door to the theater!
@@thetabletopsupershow3670 You serious Clark?
Was the manager involved with the mob? He looks like a background character in Goodfellas.
@shanester1832 LOL! I am not sure. The early 80s were wild in Southern California. I remember the day, but since I was so young, and 40+ years back, it is not super clear. There were multiple stories by the different news stations in town about this, and on one of the stories, you can see my mom and I leaving the theater. I remember people were extremely angry.
We were given enough passes that my brothers, parents and myself all got to see the movie that same night. They packed the theater to standing room to the point the fire department showed up but instead of shutting it down, they stood and watched it from the back! The 80s were definitely their own weird era!
@thetabletopsupershow3670 bad event, cool story. I was around in the 80s but don't have many fleshed out memories. It was less neon and Lamborghinis and more particle board walls and bad haircuts. Everything was definitely much more lax and cool.
I bet that manager had somebody's kneecaps taken care of.
Former projectionist here. This would've been a system before my time where they switched reels manually using cues, the cigarette burns in the corner. That would be an unnecessary gamble to hope a reel gets there in time. No way.
How we did it was assemble all the reels together, splicing & taping the film. You preview the night before to catch problems then it's smooth sailing.
That's something I was always interested in was running a projector and splicing/editing film.
I had an animation project in mind and wanted it to be as organic and old fashioned as possible, but with very minimal computer involved
@tperson8347 I don't know what's standard anymore. I guess they still use film because the entire system around distribution has been built and digital would be too easy to pirate.
Film is pretty unforgiving. Fingerprint here, dust there, it touched the roller wrong now there's a vertical scratch. It's all pretty straightforward.
It would probably be some level of ordeal to get your sequences printed on film like that.
I haven’t seen film in ages. Most are Cinema Package which includes the movie file along with subtitles, audio tracks, it’s encrypted hard drives or sent over secure internet connections directly to the theater's server.
@@ThatJunkman man, that just feels kinda soulless. The 1st time I saw digital was a showing of some classic from the 80s 10+ years ago. I thought we were getting the theater experience then I saw some DVD player loading info projected in the corner and felt ripped off.
On the other hand, no scratches, consistent quality, fewer areas for errors to occur.
@@shanester1832 junkman should have you on the show, id like to hear about this stuff
When I saw the movie "Idle Hands" the reels were in the wrong order. No one seemed to notice. :)
Good movie
First time a few of my friends and I saw Pulp Fiction, we got there late and missed a portion of the beginning, so we stayed until the next viewing to catch up where we picked up.
Wait! Willie Nelson will be at the State Fair? Awesome!
Ironic that you talked about this, because I found the news report and put it in my folder of original trilogy special features.
Those were the days...
I would love to have those kind of worries instead of real life issues smh
I saw it first showing but the storybook came out days before the movie - with all the spoilers! All the kids at school got the book including me.
George Lucas was probably still nitpicking and editing with reel four😂
True :)
I was across town that day for the opening of Jedi at La Jolla village Theater I left school early and purchased tickets for two of my high school teachers their wives and five of my friends
LOL @ 2:12 "It's amateurish and not...and unprofessional!" All the while his fake mustache is falling off his face.
My favorite is going to cheap movie theaters that lacked surround sound and they'd play a surround sound movie and some of the characters on half the screen had no voice if they'd move to the left or right depending on what channel speakers weren't there. LOL. I saw Star Trek 6 in the cheap theater and since Kik is never still, he'd start a sentence, walk across the screen and go silent. LOL. Ships might occasionally lose sound, along with only half a music track not heard. I remember watching it years later thinking 'where are all the funny moments where Kirk sut up mid sentence?'
@@BioFactory1
Star Trek 6 is my favorite.
I saw the 5th one at the drive-in when I was a little kid.
@tperson8347 I saw them all in the wrong order, lol. I saw the first one then 4, then 2, then 5 and 6, then finally 3, then after Generations I didn't follow the movies anymore. The first one with the Next Generation crew, it didn't feel like the show always did. I don't know. The Next Generation show had the feel like they enjoyed doing the show till like the last season where it felt a lil dry, but the Next Generation movies always felt to me like the cast was doing it like a job. The acting felt a little flat. The Borg was overdone for me too. But I don't hate or bash it. I know die-hard fans enjoy them, but for me Picard seasons 1 and 3 are perfectly fine as Next Generation closures. Overall the cast themselves got the closure they wanted. Picard season 2, that's a Patrick Stewart ego gone too wild. Too much Picard overacting drama acting and recycled story and all. Stewart's acting is just right without depressing retired old man scene crap, which is pretty much what annoys me the most with all three seasons. Picard as he always was, was never ready to retire or moan of being old....Star Trek shouldn't be Golden Girls in space.
You Sir are correct.. “it could have been worse”.
I remember going to the midnight premiere of Episode 3 with my brother and near the end of the film the movie kept cutting to a computer screen-saver. I'm guessing it was a digital projection and, since it was around 1-2 AM by this point, the person running the projector probably kept falling asleep. Or, since it seemed to keep happening at key points in the film, I'm assuming some disgruntled employee was just trying to ruin the experience for everyone. The worst timing was during Anakin and Obi-Wan's fight and one moment we see Obi-Wan mention something about the high ground, then it cut to a screensaver for a few seconds (by this time people were getting very vocally angry about the situation), then it cuts back to the film and Anakin is on the ground with all his limbs chopped off.
This probably contributed to the fact that I had a very, very low opinion of Episode 3 and didn't even attempt to watch it again until it was released on DVD.
I think you've resolved an old question I had about ROTJ. I've got an old film review book from the early 1990s which referred to riots when the film was first screened somewhere. They however suggested people were rioting because they thought part of the actual film was missing regarding Luke's Jedi training.
Odd. Never heard that
The film broke when I was watching Return Of The Jedi at the theater. Right when Leia met Wicket. Fortunately this was during my third or so viewing of the film, so I didn't miss anything.
I was there ditched school to go see it
I could only imagine the chaos if this were to happen today. Cosplaying Zoomers would probably take hostages.
I freaking laughed out loud at the cut at the end!!! 😂
This brings to mind another movie similar to the circumstances to, "Star Wars, Return of the Jedi". "Die Hard 2" where John McClane is fighting terrorists at the airport in Washington, DC. That film reel was done at least 12 hours before the film was to be released. I remember that well. And, I was there when some of the technical people, who were exhausted, who checked into the hotel in West Hollywood California, were all like one big relief of, WHEW!!! WE made it".
Since that time, I am not surprised if a movie reel, or scenes, are missing from a film at a premiere.
Saw Captain America in 2011 and it went out when he jumped in to the back of the Hydra truck in the big rescue scene. Had to get my money back and go watch it again.
The worst thing i've ever seen was the Fellowship of the Ring print breaking during the movie. Right when the Ringwraiths show up. Stopped the film hot cement splice, twenty minutes later start from where we left off missing that few seconds but no problems. You don't have that problem with digital.
I Remember in 1983 VHS Bootleg reports of Film Piracy of stolen 35mm Reels that were stolen! If memory serves British Columbia in Canada had a Video Piracy record of Releasing Illegal films on Home Video.
Yes did a video on it
I would have cried as a kid. Now i would have been pissed. Well now it would be Disney starwars so i wouldn't give a F. Probably be happy i didn't have see my beloved SW get destroyed more.
😂😂it DIS.NEE work as the Scotts would say 😂
SWJW: Star Wars Justice Warrior
A similar thing happened to me when I went to see the first Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie. About 30 or 45 minutes into the movie it switched to another reel of previews and commercials for the theater. I'm thankful that when I went to see Return Of The Jedi back in 83 and the movie was complete and they had the characters of Star Wars there as a meet and greet for the movie. And I remember I actually thought the person playing Luke Skywalker really looked like Mark Hamil and Chewbacca was so big I remembered him putting me on his shoulders and carrying me into the movie and all the other kids were jealous and pissed off that Chewbacca picked me up and did that but I thought it was the best day of my child life 😂
And 34 years later, I was twice this mad because I saw a movie WITHOUT a missing chunk.
It was called "The Last Jedi".
@@jimjam51075
I'm SO glad I skipped seeing ROS in theaters.
I wish I had seen JOKER in theaters, I knew it was going to be good.
I didn't know young ladies were cosplaying as Imperial officers back in 1983. Couldn't have been easy to buy a costume like than back then, unless it was custom made.
I didn’t know any girls like that
God, I wish I went to her school back then. I would've been about the same age and she could have had a costuming buddy. Certainly weren't any girls at my school into Star Wars, or scifi or anything else that was "nerdy" at the time.
I was three when I saw this in theatre. I would have been heart broken 😂 They had Han Solo in carbonite in the lobby. It was awesome 😎 one of my favourite memories ever!
That's messed up, but having a movie get brought in under police escort is a bit much.
I kinda liked that, though.
[booweeoop!] 🚔 :)
It wasn’t a movie, it was Star Wars ;)
@ThatJunkman
Yes. :)
This one time at band camp…… wait wrong movie sorry 😂🎉😎🤪
Screaming could be heard coming from the cinema 😂😂😂😂 the fans reaction to Disney star wars 😂😂😂😂😂
Cry more
I hope you mention what footage this reel 4 contained. Okay. If it’s 20 minutes per reel, then this may begin around 80 minutes into the movie. I’m going to guess it’s in the second half of the movie, when they’re venturing into Endor and Luke confronts Vader with that corridor walk.
@@visionaryventures12 this could be replicated to flare up PTSD for the survivors of the incident.
You'd need to track down a bootleg of ROTJ and look for the exact spots where the subtle flashing indicators in the corner show up. It wouldn't be 20 minutes on the dot but something close to that. It was clearly a jarring and obvious jump that the crowd was immediately aware of.
Hey Junkman the manager of the theatre should have gone to the front of the crowd and said "don't get angry because anger Leeds to the dark side"he might have got beat up but he could always use the force 😮
True
But Paltine returned?
Hey Junkman, try to track down the young lady wearing the Imperial Officer uniform, now a woman around our age, seen in the video and interview her.
@@jediknightjairinaiki560
That'd be funny if she was still wearing the uniform. :)
She’s got to be close to 60 now. Maybe a Sw fan still I hope
This would really blow feces for sure.
I can only imagine.
I'm in total agreement, film is better. It's more alive, more organic.
I'm honestly bored of HD TV.
Plus look at alot of the pictures that are put out in ads and catalogs, they're so grainy.
I've got 100 year old photographs on those steel plates that are much, much clearer than that.
I still love that guy's fake mustache. It makes me giggle like a turkey. :)
Thanks for the video
Why would 7 of 8 reels be delivered without reel 4?
Cause they sent 2 of Reel 2
@@michaelharrington75 I would imagine simple human error. They spend all day putting reels into these octagon shaped metal shipping cans, one after another. Thousands of thankless successful jobs, one slip up and it's a national news story.
It could've been due to the size of the can. They used empty reels to fill the empty space so it wouldn't rattle around. An empty went where 4 was supposed to go, meanwhile another theater got two reel 4s.
Not that I was there or was responsible, but if I was, let it go people! I didn't intend to ruin people's precious experience.
@@ThatJunkman Human error. Lord knows I've made my share of them.
So what you're telling me is, Star Wars fans have always been angry? 🤔
2:13 nice Unprofessional And fake mustache amateurish.
The difference between then and now ??? Back then if people didn’t like things they shouted it out right at ya today if people don’t like things they write them in the comments 😇😇😇
I once bought a bunch of BETA Tapes at a yard sale. There was a couple and the guys wife was very "name your price and take them". I was hoping for commercials. The first one had a kids ball game. Dad, i assume, cheers on someone named Michael. I fast forward but didn't see any ads. Cool but nothing i was looking for. I put the next one in and there is a stripper on a pole. She was on the next 5 tapes as well with a large date telling me it was done November 27 1980 and that date was on all the remaining 5 tapes and so was the stripper. So im guessing some guy brought in a big ass beta camera to record a bachelor party or just a night out. I then understood why wifey wanted it sold so quickly lol
I went t see in 1982 Star Wars and Empire Strikes double bill at my local cinema. Star Wars as up to the bit just before Han, Luke etc went into the Death Star, the movie then jumped 20 minutes back and repeated that reel again, then jumped to the attack on the Death Star.. Many got they money back and were told a complete version would be shown later that week. I stayed as Empire would be my 4th time in seeing this movie at the cinema.
All this for ROTJ, but it's understandable.
It was Kathleen Kennedy's fault...
Ugh i just dont get these geeks .....i mean it wasnt like its star trek dam people// bracing for impact shields up😂
Star wars fans have been angry since the teddy bears in the 80's they need to grow up and accept its for children and that its not obligated to age with them.
Duh. Adult maga star wars fans are rhe worst
Lots of incel SWJW here. Star Wars Justice Warriors are sad
I was at a showing of Braveheart when the reel broke.
It would kinda be funny if it occured during the up lifting speach. :)
We had that with a showing of Spider-man 2. Film broke after 2 minutes and started to unspool in the projectionists booth. The Projectionist had stepped out of his booth to go out for a smoke. Didn’t get to see the movie. At least we got a refund.
Yeah. I think it turned into 3 hours and it was a school night.