@@murdermelon6103 lol i guess it just means we’re in the early stages of LiDar, 3d scanning and it’s uses. So 5 years ahead there could be so many new opportunities using 3D scanning
@@MikeShPr Lidar is heavily software driven, especially in applications like this. Likely the only difference between the lidar on iPhone 12-12s-13-13s-14 will be software. And Luckily, Apple is pretty good at continuing to improve software like this of underutilized hardware and what ever the 13 has, the 12 will then have it too.
I'm REALLY glad that I watched this because I was just about to buy an iPhone 12 Pro, just for this feature. I wanted to scan in for AR artwork and now I think I'll look at other options. Some of the other videos made it look so much more impressive.
Imagine crowdsourcing lidar scans to build a realistic game of the entire world. Like a mix between GTA 5 and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Drones will probably also be able to use this technology.
@@flip7194 Maybe they could use AI to understand what objects are and make them out of realistic materials that are destructible and realistic to interact with. In MSFS2020 they use AI to place trees and buildings where they should be.
Well shadows will also get scanned and we dont want that. We can add our own materials tho. But adding material to every single thing on earth? Nah not possible rn
I dont care about printing but using this as an alternative to taking photos just to capture memories sounds pretty exciting. Hopefully those 3d scans are not too heavy on storage.
The potential to capture memories also excites me. Imagine if the lidar and processor becomes so fast that it can capture live 3D videos and all the movements that are happening in real time
Thank you. I was thinking of buying the iPhone 12 pro because of the Lidar Sensor to use it for 3d Scan. Your test convinced me, the iPhone 12 mini is enough for me :-)
You can buy a LiDAR for a 35mm camera which cost $350 and sits in the flash shoe, it’s about the size of a matchbox, I don’t know how it compares to the iPhone. Would need post processing as I don’t think the camera would have the brains for it. Be interesting if camera makers run with LiDAR or is it too niche like FLAR?
Is there any point to maybe building a light box with an acrylic base on a "lazy susan" rotating the piece and lighting it from various angles as to produce a better scan?
Probably both. The lidar sensor resolution is pretty low. But software can compensate a lot with overlaying multiple images and utilizing the gyro sensor. It's actually already doing that but I believe this can be improved. What cannot be changed is the minimum distance, which is another reason why it's not able to scan smaller things though.
from first few second , I know it is still totally unsable for 3D printing. the mesh not accurate. missing detail. still a good news for 3D modeler Thanks for sharing
Thanks for the video, maybe you used it to scan people, I was thinking of buying an iPad Pro instead of a scanner for the price but what you get in the end with the help of the applications (meshing) can be useful to scan arms of people to customize prosthetics? I would really appreciate your answer.
if might work to people scanning. I would actually rather use the face-id sensor on the front, it seems more accurate: ua-cam.com/video/PJjWxTi2yDo/v-deo.html. Also consider either using a self-printed mirror adapter or this one, which I also ordered for myself: www.kickstarter.com/projects/scanmira/scanmira-a-better-way-to-3d-scan-with-your-iphone-ipad-pro?lang=de
Take this with a grain of salt. But I think buying a scanner will produce higher resolution scans but lower quality texture. IPhone is like the reverse higher quality textures but lower quality details.
@Konrad ZEN: It was the same app as shown in the video, but there is an experimental Mode inside App, which you can turn on. :-) DE: Das war die gleiche App wie im Video, aber im experimental Modus innerhalb der App. :-) Woher wusstest du, dass ich deutsch spreche?
Actually every iPhone since X has had a lidar scanner. That is for face unlock...in fact the front facing lidar camera is higher resolution than the rear camera which is more for rooms etc...
I regret buying my Pixel 6, I wish I bought the iPhone instead for its lidar scanner. Does anyone know a dedicated scanner that I can buy that will work with my Pixel 6?
iPhone 12 and iPad Pro have the back side LIDAR Sensor. Check out my newer video how to use the front facing sensor (face-Id) that is there since iPhone X. ua-cam.com/video/PJjWxTi2yDo/v-deo.html
While the lion and your car scans were not as high-quality as I could imagine a proper for the photogrammetric one would be even with the same iPhone, the rooms scale is actually pretty good for the quickness and getting the dimensions and textures correctly.
We bought 2 iPhone 12 Pro Max and they both have awful antenna receptions and to return them and go back to my iPhone 11 Pro Max way better for rural areas
I'm not an Apple Guy but I was sure hoping for more. The Real Problem is a platform where you can real time see errors in the scan so you can real time pain and repaint those errors until they are gone. You can't do that with photos since they are not real time. The expensive 3D scanners all have that ability so when you are done, you have a virtually error free surface w/o holes. The cost of these "expensive" scanners has already dropped an Order of Magnitude so the difference with a high end cell phone is closing quickly. maybe the iPhone 15 will achieve this?
Omg thank you so much for this video! Thank GOD I found this video accidentally! I was planning to buy iphone 12 pro because of the LiDAR sensor! I am not a rich person and how lucky I am that I save my money from buying useless thing because of this video! A big big big thank you!!!!
I would gladly trade half the speed for double the resolution, at least for nearby objects. I doubt Apple is interested in making a 3d scanning phone, they just want a phone with good enough lidar to accurately place objects in AR space.
This is actually pretty disappointing. I'm an iPhone user in general, but upgraded specifically for the lidar sensor to use it for better scans than just using camera based iphone apps and it looks the software just isn't there to make anything great with it.
Of course, the whole point of this is so developers like me will be able to make apps for the Apple AR glasses on day one with no problems. That’s what is actually exciting.
I remember when Sony was doing 3d scanning back in the day and LG used tof for palmprints and control and Google used lidar for the same Samsung just used the camera but they had the 3d iris scanner..nice time see Apple come along.
This is going to be really neat in 5 years
What you mean?
@@HardKore5250 did u find out what he meant
@@murdermelon6103 lol i guess it just means we’re in the early stages of LiDar, 3d scanning and it’s uses. So 5 years ahead there could be so many new opportunities using 3D scanning
I know you wrote this comment a year ago, but it's getting pretty darned cool now
Murder Melon I don’t think he did.. he sound like a good fun guy though
Incredible. Will be useful for 3D artist.
Can you export holograms or import holograms to it from another device?
@@HardKore5250 yes
Its a start, it will get better
Scarily better.
lol
It will get better but with Apple politics only in new 13 and other iPhones 😏
@@MikeShPr Lidar is heavily software driven, especially in applications like this. Likely the only difference between the lidar on iPhone 12-12s-13-13s-14 will be software. And Luckily, Apple is pretty good at continuing to improve software like this of underutilized hardware and what ever the 13 has, the 12 will then have it too.
Thank you, Daniel. Very informative. It looks like I will hold off on updating my iPhone for at least one more year.
If you were to buy it for that reason, totally agree!
Make it a few more years.
Im not really looking for detail in a project that I'm working on and I didn't want to buy a scanner so thanks for the help!
I'm REALLY glad that I watched this because I was just about to buy an iPhone 12 Pro, just for this feature. I wanted to scan in for AR artwork and now I think I'll look at other options. Some of the other videos made it look so much more impressive.
Imagine crowdsourcing lidar scans to build a realistic game of the entire world. Like a mix between GTA 5 and Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020. Drones will probably also be able to use this technology.
With absolutely no interactive elements... lol
@@flip7194 Maybe they could use AI to understand what objects are and make them out of realistic materials that are destructible and realistic to interact with. In MSFS2020 they use AI to place trees and buildings where they should be.
Well shadows will also get scanned and we dont want that. We can add our own materials tho. But adding material to every single thing on earth? Nah not possible rn
The lion looks like he has been chasing parked cars LOL!
😂
This seems like a great way to simulate a few centuries of weathering. Your lion looks like it's been through a rock tumbler.
😂😂😂
I had to look up PLA, because of your shirt. Thanks for educating me!
I dont care about printing but using this as an alternative to taking photos just to capture memories sounds pretty exciting. Hopefully those 3d scans are not too heavy on storage.
The potential to capture memories also excites me. Imagine if the lidar and processor becomes so fast that it can capture live 3D videos and all the movements that are happening in real time
Thank you. I was thinking of buying the iPhone 12 pro because of the Lidar Sensor to use it for 3d Scan. Your test convinced me, the iPhone 12 mini is enough for me :-)
So has anything better app wise come out since video? I just upgraded and got 12 Pro Max and would like to scan object to print on my 3d printer.
Perfect video for me!! Final is the best!
Thanks!
I wonder if there is a LiDAR strong enough to get better clarity in detail on objects
I'd like to see the quality with a properly setup 3D scanning rig, i.e. a turntable and tripod mounted iphone vs. just handheld.
This is exactly the information that I was looking for. Great video!
Klasse Anleitung, danke dafür. Grüße nach Augsburg.
You can buy a LiDAR for a 35mm camera which cost $350 and sits in the flash shoe, it’s about the size of a matchbox, I don’t know how it compares to the iPhone. Would need post processing as I don’t think the camera would have the brains for it.
Be interesting if camera makers run with LiDAR or is it too niche like FLAR?
I really just want it to be able to scan sides of houses so i can use it to measure siding. Maybe roofs as well.
This video really helped me make decisions about the iPhone infrared camera! Thank you!
Is there any point to maybe building a light box with an acrylic base on a "lazy susan" rotating the piece and lighting it from various angles as to produce a better scan?
is iphone 13 pro or 14 pro alot better? and do u think u can 3d print lidar with iphone or it not good enough ?
So what is it actually that needs improvement? I mean the Li-dar sensor needs upgrade or it is just the software??
Probably both. The lidar sensor resolution is pretty low. But software can compensate a lot with overlaying multiple images and utilizing the gyro sensor. It's actually already doing that but I believe this can be improved. What cannot be changed is the minimum distance, which is another reason why it's not able to scan smaller things though.
Can you animate the scanned objects?
from first few second , I know it is still totally unsable for 3D printing. the mesh not accurate. missing detail.
still a good news for 3D modeler
Thanks for sharing
I worked for years in the 3D printing sphere and use blender a lot. And 3d printing is my hobby. I fully disagree with your statement.
Yes pointless exercise
good luck with your channel !
Thanks for the video, maybe you used it to scan people, I was thinking of buying an iPad Pro instead of a scanner for the price but what you get in the end with the help of the applications (meshing) can be useful to scan arms of people to customize prosthetics? I would really appreciate your answer.
if might work to people scanning. I would actually rather use the face-id sensor on the front, it seems more accurate: ua-cam.com/video/PJjWxTi2yDo/v-deo.html. Also consider either using a self-printed mirror adapter or this one, which I also ordered for myself: www.kickstarter.com/projects/scanmira/scanmira-a-better-way-to-3d-scan-with-your-iphone-ipad-pro?lang=de
No. A scanner would work much better and I’d say it’s worth the price
Take this with a grain of salt. But I think buying a scanner will produce higher resolution scans but lower quality texture. IPhone is like the reverse higher quality textures but lower quality details.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 10+ & Samsung Galaxy S20+/Ultra can also do this thanks to the ToF sensor
Yes, I made a video about the Note 10+ Sensor a year ago: ua-cam.com/video/tHE30PZ04Vo/v-deo.html
is it works also at iPhone 13pro/promax?
Yes!
Ghost hunting options? Thoughts?
Mechanical design Engineer ❤️.
So was I😉
Great!
I’ll be patient with Iphone 12, i’ll check next year 13 pro 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Maybe next year they’ll improve the lidar sensor. Depends on what usecases they focus on...
@@Crosslink3D yeah, i hope 🙏🙏🙏
On iPad Pro I had WAAAY better results with the same app, but it was in a beta mode I guess? Do you have such a Beta Mode on iPhone?
@Konrad ZEN: It was the same app as shown in the video, but there is an experimental Mode inside App, which you can turn on. :-)
DE: Das war die gleiche App wie im Video, aber im experimental Modus innerhalb der App. :-)
Woher wusstest du, dass ich deutsch spreche?
Just got an iPhone 12 Pro and was wondering about this. Thanks for the very informative video!
Maybe next generation they have 2 LiDAR scanners for better 3D scan.
Magic plan also uses the lidar scanner to map out rooms
How do you Get the detials?
awesome content, how was set the lidar with which min cm detail and with depth?
I use this but sometimes I can’t get it to scan this good and don’t understand why!
what is the name of the application to scan?
You should do a follow up video... there is new iPhone 12 3d scanner software.
🇦🇺🤜🏼🤛🏼🍀😎🤓
Actually every iPhone since X has had a lidar scanner. That is for face unlock...in fact the front facing lidar camera is higher resolution than the rear camera which is more for rooms etc...
Sony XZ1 has this technology years ago!! 3D scan people, food and objects then order them as a teddy or Glass 3D scan with lazer etched design!!
what is the name of this app?
Poly cam is another but my older scans will not reload so maybe skip polycam
I know many of you hate Apple and so do I; but man I fucking love their level of technology and software integration!
Wow！ Crazy ! It’s unbelievable
Is that possible to use iPhone Lidar with WebAR
I regret buying my Pixel 6, I wish I bought the iPhone instead for its lidar scanner. Does anyone know a dedicated scanner that I can buy that will work with my Pixel 6?
Musste gerade mal schauen, wo du wohl herkommst....bei dem Akzent...Danke für das Video!
:-D
Hi. Which program you recommend for make 3D file ( OBJ, or STL) from a PNG or SVG file, for 3D Printing? Thank you.
This is something I also want to know
When I do my hires scans the ends don’t merge or overlap very well and I have a lot of dimpling/concave areas. What am I doing wrong? Thanks
Thank you!!
is the 12pro the only iphone with 3d scanner?
iPhone 12 and iPad Pro have the back side LIDAR Sensor. Check out my newer video how to use the front facing sensor (face-Id) that is there since iPhone X. ua-cam.com/video/PJjWxTi2yDo/v-deo.html
Is there a way to get the file into blender?
Yes, just export it in obj format and you should be able to load that into blender!
The Lion statue means you are from Bavaria (Bayern)
What 3D programs do you recommend for Mac users? Thanks!
Blender?
How do you 3D print it
While the lion and your car scans were not as high-quality as I could imagine a proper for the photogrammetric one would be even with the same iPhone, the rooms scale is actually pretty good for the quickness and getting the dimensions and textures correctly.
That is incredible. I am hoping iphone could plant this technology into next 13 model phone to benefit people who need it in a cheaper price.
Yeah this would be awesome!
Im afraid apple is making the lidar sensor a “pro” feature
you can get way way better results using smoothie-3d its free and just does a better job of converting a 2d image to a 3d model imo.
I couldnt find it in the app store, could you plz send a app store link? Thanks
We bought 2 iPhone 12 Pro Max and they both have awful antenna receptions and to return them and go back to my iPhone 11 Pro Max way better for rural areas
You forgot to blur the plates inside the phone display :p
Should be done now 😊
Thousands of people see your plates everyday while you’re driving.
Thanks bro for this video..much needed 👍🏻
Always welcome
Hey any video you taking from photo and make it into 3d?
He does. I came here from that video. ua-cam.com/video/45D0pFdqVgw/v-deo.html
3d print ?
Thanks..!! 👍✨
Thanks Daniel, really useful video :-)
My pleasure!
I'm not an Apple Guy but I was sure hoping for more. The Real Problem is a platform where you can real time see errors in the scan so you can real time pain and repaint those errors until they are gone. You can't do that with photos since they are not real time. The expensive 3D scanners all have that ability so when you are done, you have a virtually error free surface w/o holes. The cost of these "expensive" scanners has already dropped an Order of Magnitude so the difference with a high end cell phone is closing quickly. maybe the iPhone 15 will achieve this?
Thanks buddy that's me not buying an iPhone for this feature then
Wao Mr. Deniel with another superb video.
Glad you liked it!
How can I activate it ?
Omg thank you so much for this video! Thank GOD I found this video accidentally! I was planning to buy iphone 12 pro because of the LiDAR sensor! I am not a rich person and how lucky I am that I save my money from buying useless thing because of this video! A big big big thank you!!!!
You're welcome!!
3:27 thats so coool
Feels like the quality hasn't improved at all in 8 years when you could already use Autodesk iphone app to make 3d models. This is just lot faster.
Can you scan people with it?
Sure this is possible. I am releasing a comparison video soon for different scanners (front vs back camera)
So it does not work for scanning small objects like several 1-4 mm?
No, for that you have to use photos and a photogrammetry software like meshroom or photoscape
@@Crosslink3D Ok, thanks I'll check that software.
I would gladly trade half the speed for double the resolution, at least for nearby objects. I doubt Apple is interested in making a 3d scanning phone, they just want a phone with good enough lidar to accurately place objects in AR space.
Just use the TrueDepth camera instead.
This is actually pretty disappointing. I'm an iPhone user in general, but upgraded specifically for the lidar sensor to use it for better scans than just using camera based iphone apps and it looks the software just isn't there to make anything great with it.
I'm hoping it is a software fix, however Daniel did say the the LIDAR is usually for objects of roughly chair size (on the small end).
@@thewalabee1414 I guess the grid I have seen from lidar in some video is designed for a certain scale, so this can not be fixed with software?
Of course, the whole point of this is so developers like me will be able to make apps for the Apple AR glasses on day one with no problems. That’s what is actually exciting.
Tell me the app name please
3d Scanner App
very nice
Thanks
Es gibt echt UA-camr aus Aichach Friedberg krass
Na klar, warum auch nicht 😎
@@Crosslink3D Grüße aus Mering✌️
iPhone trailve pro?
Please android Galaxy A01
Looks fairly inaccurate. Hopefully, it gets upgraded next year to project more “dots”.
Erkenn ich da Friedberg? :)
Its really incredible how bad it works- i feel really fooled.
I think it works great 👍 like for portrait shots or generel autofocus is instant
I do these on my note 10 plus
Name of intro song plz
the lion look fresh from it mother womb
Still will use Trnio better than those lidar scanners
sony had this tech like so long ago
Is there an actual apple app for this or is it just 3rd party support
It's a 3rd party app. Apple does not have it's own 3D scanning app (yet)
I remember when Sony was doing 3d scanning back in the day and LG used tof for palmprints and control and Google used lidar for the same Samsung just used the camera but they had the 3d iris scanner..nice time see Apple come along.
Imagine if cross link replied
Here you go 😂
@@Crosslink3D oooo that was quick and I didn’t actually expect one 😂
This lion statue is the statue of my house in Moscow.
Nice :-) Does it also have the same flag pattern?
I think we are just in the beginning
Like mobile phone camera
TLDW: it's useless as 3D scanner
Ma è un app, ho come si attiva?!!?