As a KIRI Engine developer, I would say this is a very objective video. Good work! This video inspired us to make our App provide higher quality and make it more affordable in the future. And I believe with the technology growing, 3d scanning with phones will elevate to another level.
Wow, thanks! I look forward to seeing what you guys... and others... do with all this. It's amazing how much gets packed into our phones. I think we all sometimes get blinded by the awesome stuff and forget the limitations. Still, it's all very cool. And thanks so much for watching and commenting!
How about finishing the phiz? I spent almost $800cdn buying this hot garbage, during the pandemic, for you guys to drop support almost immediately after releasing it. I would never, and will never, trust anything from Kiri. After the Phiz joke I'm very surprised your company didn't change its name or disappear. The phone tower that originally came didn't work, battery came unplugged because the glue they use couldn't glue toilet paper, so they sent me a second tower. To show everyone how much of a joke Kiri really is they shipped it to me double boxed. Outside box addressed to me. Second box addressed, and had full postage, to some other person. Sorry to pull a full rant on this awesome video but I want people to see how much Kiri actually (doesn't) stand behind their products. Especially pulling this crap during the pandemic! I had to scrape my pennies together just to be able to purchase this paper weight. End rant.
@@iamtherealevil Hi there! I'm so sorry to hear about this reply. The time with Phiz 3D Scanner was truly unforgettable even to us. We didn't want to change to a new company because we wanted to remember the good and bad things from the old days so it wouldn't happen again.
@@xingyechrishu6382 they should have been refunded. They don't do anything even remotely to what was displayed in the promotional videos. I spent so much time trying to make it work! I even went as far as building it a 3 sided box to block out everything behind the turntable. I was using a Blackberry Priv and it wouldn't work. So I bought a higher end Motorola One Hyper and still got nothing usable. I was blown away by the promotional videos. So disappointed in the actual product.
from my experience KIRI is also really good for doing things like scanning inside an object as well. i have personally used it to 3D scan the interior of a car along with the frame and it is good enough to reliably make mount points for engine swaps. It is the only one that works much at all for this kind of application.
Years ago tried some photogrammetry software that didn't work out so good. Thinking Maker World AI might be my next option. Thank you for testing these out.
Great video, Eric! Really enjoyed watching this shoulder-to-shoulder comparison. 3D scanning has involved so much in the past few years. Although many phone apps can do 3D scanning, they don't always use the same 3D scanning methods. There's more than one way to make a smartphone do 3D scanning, there are photogrammetry (traditional but still gives the best mesh if done right), LiDAR (fast, but mesh is not so detailed), FaceID (Meh, not a great choice), NeuS (The tech that KIRI Engine and MakerWorld use, I believe) and the recent 3D Gaussian Splatting (Cool but can't generate mesh). But unfortunately, 3D scanning has always been a niche topic that not many people are aware of the pros and cons and the impact of different 3D scanning methods; it's so nice to see a great video on UA-cam that toggles the differences between each 3D scanner app.
Thanks! Yeah, I've always wanted to do this but until now it's been a pain, costly, and never seemed to work. That, and like you said, all the different ways that make no sense! Thanks for the comment!
McMaster university, I guess...so, Canada was good for something.. Did you move back to Xi-land? You said most of the team is in PRC, so maybe you stayed in CDN?
Excellent video! I have a BL A1 Mini myself and didn't even know BL MakerWorld had an AI scanner like this. I'm stoked. I love this channel, and I'll be here to watch it blow up with subs in due time, brother. The best of luck to this channel.
It's not as easy as I thought it would be. That's for sure. With all the modern technology we have, there's really no reason we don't have good, free programs that we can make scans with jpg files. (That are accurate and measurable/modifiable in CAD programs like Solidworks, AutoCAD and other CAD programs). I haven't really found anything like that yet though and have had to always make parts from scratch.
As a sculptor and new to 3D printing I’ve checked out what’s available for mobile apps and everyone wants us to subscribe for monthly fees. As much as I sculpt it’s far more cost effective to just buy a 3D scanner. Sucks but true.
I have been trying to find an affordable, easy to use, scanning app, for personal use, for years now. Things have come a long way since I first started looking. There is still room for improvement, but some of these are worth the investment, for me. Thanks for this review. It was very useful. Cheers,
Thank you for testing all these apps for us. I think this whole experience would benefit a lot from printing with a resin printer. The layer lines are so apparent that it's hard to discern what app got the sharpest details. Thank you for your research.
RESIN! Yes, I really want to get into Resin... but not really... but YES I do! UGH! So many things to go along with Resin, I haven't made the jump yet. One day! Thanks!
Thank you for the detailed and thorough review. I have a boring object to scan: a battery cover for a remote control. As you can imagine it is almost flat, with some round shape and a notch that locks the battery cover into the remote itself. What would be the best way to scan it? in your review you didn't specify android, iphone or ipad? did you check across these too?
What about Scaniverse? I have a friend who uses it and from pics he showed me, it seems ok. Never used it myself to be honest as the Android option has apparently only became available recently. Thanks for the interesting video.
I dont do a lot of 3D scanning but when I do I just take the photos and upload to Meshroom on my laptop, I have learned that very busy objects just don't look well in a scan or a 3D print, my best success was some brake/clutch levers I scanned and printed out in Nylon CF for a friend. If anyone wishes to comment that this is dangerous, don't bother! the levers were tested and well, we couldn't break them.
Always try to use local computing if possible. A good PC setup (not a super expensive rig but one normal people can afford) should be able to handle the work load. Cloud computing leads to subscription grifting.
As a 3D artist I was actually interested in scanning before I thought of printing. My first attempt was with the Microsoft Kinect. It was pretty horrible.
LOL. Yeah, I tried it as well and total fail. I know a number of people online have it working, but after a few hours of searching, finding drivers and stuff, I gave up. Thanks!
Thanks so much! I've looked at the Lizard and others, but for most of us they're all just a little too much to justify occasional use. Hence, this video. (It was really for me to find out, but I thought I'd share.... don't tell anybody). 😋
They also need a powerful computer since they don't do web based rendering. Sent the Ferret back some time ago when it came out...just didn't work. Now they got the Otter and the Raptor...still waiting for more reviews and might get one 2.nd hand some day. Maybe we get infrared scanning integrated into phones some day....the Lidar option in the iphone 12+ upwards from a still just for playing around....works with Polycam and realityscan. You left out LumaAI.
@@heavyweather Hey! Thanks for the info. I just looked at LumaAI again to make sure and they seem to be mostly focused on advertising, Blender, and that type of stuff. It may be possible to export for 3D printing, I'm not sure. I'll add it to the list, though. Thanks!
Love the video, I wanna get into this tech but found it hard to nail the actual process. Would you consider a super in depth guide to using your top 3, or even just your overall fave? Makerworld seemed promising, but any footage I give it comes out awful, even with very basic geometry.
Thanks! Yes, I'm actually looking at doing that, but I don't want to revisit it too soon. There are a number of other apps I'm wanting to try out as well. I've had good luck with MakerWorld, so maybe try different camera settings, more shots, that type of thing. Thanks again!
Very good video, and I learn a lot, but the lullaby chimes behind my gosh:))) you have a very decent flow for you to not put this song behind ;))) cheers
Qlone: You have a pattern that registers where the camera is in 3D space, you rotate the camera, not the object! As for scale: The software doesn't know if you are walking around a ship in dry dock or viewing bacteria under a microscope. Rescaling things is a fundimental of 3D.
Correct on both accounts. I probably should have made the paper concept clearer, but it was annoying it didn't work and their response was to "get an iPhone." Also, I just wish the scale could be closer to 1:1, that's why I liked the 'idea' of Qlone. And yes, I should have commented it's just 1's and 0's, so scale isn't a major factor, just kind of annoying to have to get it right after the fact. Thanks for watching and keeping me on track!
I tried a number of ways that didn't make the video, even after contacting the company. I'm waiting for an update and hopefully it'll fix the Android version... or at least, my Galaxy S24+. I really want it to work since I think that mat could be a game changer. And that's why I included it even though I didn't get it to work. Thanks for watching!
Nice thing is the heavy use of the Apple spatial volume building from their AR Kit is working behind the scenes. It not only uses regular photogrammetry, it also combines that with LiDAR, motion sensors, and GPS to dial in the geometry as it captures more. And it’s all calculated on device as well.
Great video. Would have been interested to see the same experiment with a resin printer. (Also, your background music sounds like a cell phone ringing for 9 minutes straight. On behalf of those of us nutbags with misophonia... Have mercy, bro.)
I would love to do this on resin, maybe one day. And yes, I've already made notes about music. Wish I could retroactively fix it... sorry for that! Thanks!
I tried the MakerWorld AI Scanner. It gave me very good results, however, it does not capture the surface image texture. The model is without color, which is fine for 3D printing, but not for photoscanning objects for rendering. For that, I've had pretty good results from MagiScan. I figured out a technique for improving models from MagiScan in Blender using the image texture as a displacement map, first subdividing, then displacing, and decimating to reduce the face count. It adds a lot of detail to the original scan. This can't be done with MakerWorld AI Scanner because it doesn't create a UV map.
Thanks for the video, I’ve been thinking about exploring scanning. Can’t help but think the details would be more apparent and even with a resin print?
i had the same thought, but I only have FDM. Still, if you start with a "poor" or low quality scan, unless you're REALLY into Blender or something, it's going to come out the same no matter what. Although... maybe I could use this as an excuse for resin....??? 🤔😜
I've been looking into scanning apps with photos that can be taken with any camera... and the finished scans have to be functionally identical and working parts when they're finished (CAD measurable and modifiable)... but I just haven't had any luck.
When it comes to photogrammetry, I also had very good experiences with “3DF Zephyr FREE”. However, this is not a mobile app but it is 100% free. No matter whether 1 scan or 100,000 scans. Up to 50 images per object, the higher the resolution, the better the result. The program has also mapped the finest structure in the leather (and also flaws) from the dashboard and incorporated it into the mesh.
Thank you for this video, I have been needing an alternative to Magiscan for a while. Quick question, how do you cut off the bottom (excess scanned areas) of the model? That's my biggest issue with Magiscan, is that it scans the whole plane that I put my model on.
Easiest way is the slicer. Make sure it's standing straight up and use the Cut tool to slice it off, or you'll have to rotate the slicer and try to guess as to what's level. If your slicer lets you drop it below the build plate, you can slice it that way and just use the Cut tool right on the build plate. You'll probably end up with holes, ie... non-watertight, so be sure to run a repair. Most slicers fix that now. Good luck!
I have had great luck with openscan! It's a little different than the types reviewed here, but I use it on a weekly basis for scanning small things that would otherwise be super time-consuming to model.
EM3d was not mentioned and its the best 3d scanning app by far because it uses the IR camera in the FRONT of the iphone which is much better for small objects. And only costs $6 to export to OBJ or STL. The rear LIDAR is good for large objects, not so much for small ones.
Thanks for letting us know! I know that the Lidar and IR is an area the iPhone is ahead of Android, so hopefully this is a good alternative for you iOS users. Thanks again!
Viable? Well, yeah, but some of them do pretty good at this point. Don't forget that I intentionally used the DEFAULT settings in every one to judge them equally, as well as the FREE option. All the Pro levels claim to get better resolution, etc. I plan to do shorts on the Free ones and max out the quality as much as possible. I'm with you, though, I really hoped I'd get a lot better results. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for this info. I just requested a refund on the Android version of Qlone, since it seems that is an abandoned project for them, such a shame. Could you tell us which phone you were using in your tests?
Oops! I thought I mentioned it... I started with a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra, but then had to start over with a new phone, the Galaxy S24+. Results were identical between the two phones, though.
Good question! I had the same thought, but I can only assume it's advertising for their brand. Or it could be that this is a "testing" ground for a later, more advanced Pay version.
They do a lot of community building projects to entice people to move to their platform and I can say as a person in that platform, dear lord does it make a difference and make things easier to the point of I don't even consider buying filament from other sources any longer. Their tight integrations within their MakerWorld for built in print profiles for each printer and RFID tags for each filament means I can see a model, click and print it with 100% success rate every time, every filament (from them). I've literally never had a failed print yet in my first 200~ prints. I chalk this up to staying inside of that ecosystem. It's close to why Apple products work well together and they have so many "free" services. It makes you want to stay in that platform for the combined benefits of ease of use/convenience.
Super video. Very useful and much appreciated, but I think you may have broken MakerWorld :-) Today I see "Image to 3D Model App is Temporarily Suspended" though your link looks like it still works.
HA! Yeah, I saw that the Pic to 3D generator was down, but I didn't notice any scanner issues. I haven't gotten any emails, but maybe they'll scale everything up and get better. Maybe? Thanks for watching!
I would love to scan a 1/32 model of a RF-4B Phantom jet , enlarging it to 1/12 or 1/8 scale. Then add canards to the front making a mold for an R/C scale model of a YRF-4E, 62-12200. Seems the original plane has been condemned to storage at WPAFB , well it went in for new paint about 12 years ago, was moved to storage after I offered to get some brushes from the shed and come help paint it , yep next day it's status changed ..truth. now one person at the base was kind enough to send me some photos ....but during those 12 years this retiree, got old, it happens if your lucky .take care .
Wow! That would be an awesome project. If you could scan it, I would definitely recommend a more robust 3D scanner. If you only have pics, you might be able to use a Pic to 3D converter like MakerWorld has, but I've found that NONE of them really work great... yet. Also, you're not old... just wiser! Keep it up and thanks for watching!
If you have to sign up for a monthly subscription you may as well save a lot of money and buy a dedicated scanner that will also do a much better job. The free apps looked like they did a decent enough scan for a lot of things. Maybe I wasn't paying attention but was there not any buy it once options? Were they actually all subscription or free?
RealityScan is FREE, and Magiscan does have a Lifetime option that I would rather spend on a dedicated scanner of $399. Qlone was the best by far at $19.99, but I couldn't use it on Android, which is why you may have missed it. Thanks!
Not that I saw, but I wasn't going "full in" on any of the apps. I presume most of those types of settings would be in the Pro (ie... Paid) versions. But, since it's all 1's and 0's, scaling doesn't seem to make a difference in quality, thankfully.
Iphone has a time-of-flight sensor. (my android to but the app does not use it) I use a Realsense from intel and actualy make real 3d scans :P (i think thats what most "cheap" 3d scanner's anyways )
Probably a dedicated scanner would be the way to go. I did look at Arloopa but it's more for Augmented Reality stuff, like for Real Estate. That may work? Good luck!
Yes! I was going to mention it in the video but it was already super long. I've been a PC tech in the past and use Windows, so I thought it would work. But after LOTS of different tutorials, drivers, and WAY too many hours, I just gave up. I know the multi-camera thing should give a much better scan, but it just didn't work for me. A lot of people have done it, though, so go for it! Thanks for watching!
Have you looked into gaussian splatting at all? That's where I'm heading in my 3D scanning adventure. As all these softwares as services are pretty bad.
I haven't heard of that, but I'm kind of like most people... why I did this video ;-) Just trying to see what's what. I'll definitely look into it. Thanks!
LOL. No, but I've been in computers for a while. Just a musician with LOTS of tech experience who really enjoys pretty much everything related, especially 3D Printing! Thanks!
@@my3DPrintLab Ahh, okay, I was looking at your shirt which says 'Expert ENCE', where I thought ENCE was a certification for computer forensics experts. But maybe there's an ENCE abbreviation I'm not familiar with! :)
I wish I wasn't so old now -- I'm 63 and a retired certified millwright. I'm also not very computer literate. I can do email and copy n paste --- LOL. I looked into 3D scanning years ago before I even dreamed of buying a printer. It was obvious to me at the time that scanning was THE issue. If they can't build a scanner that sends code to a printer ACCURATELY then it's all a waste of time, at least for someone like me who is computer challenged. I have trouble even using the paint program and still don't know how to use it very well. Why would I want to use 3D printing ? I can build almost anything I need on my milling machine or my lathe. The problem is that if the item is complex then 3D scanning n printing is THE answer as it's to complicated for a home machinist. The other issue. 3D printing involves plastic. I want to make an item out of wax but there are NO wax printers out there. Why wax ? Answer: Because if I have a wax mold I can cast the item in metal. I also do aluminum casting. I'm still working on the porosity issue. But at the end of the day I want the final product in metal. By the way, great video.
Thanks for watching! Lots of things to unpack here! ;-) First, You're not old! Keep going and have fun! Next, I don't think any scanner actually sends it to the printer. You always have to do some editing and stuff, but it's definitely getting easier. As far as Why? Check out some of my other videos. It's fun, I fix a LOT of stuff around the house, and well, it's fun! For wax stuff, 3D printing is PERFECT for making molds. Of course, you have to design it first, or find it online, but it's a great way to go. Candles, silicon, wax... you name it. Just use the right filament for the heat requirements. I do a lot of woodworking and love using my lathe as well, but 3D printing has fixed a LOT more things around the house. I mean, the bed and table and stuff I've made are great, but not spending $10 or $50 bucks here and there on stuff that breaks, and making it to my personal taste, is pretty awesome. Like the rings I did in a video that go around my ceiling lights. Designed in about 5 minutes, printed all in an hour or so, and they look like I bought them. It's a new skill, yes, but I obviously love it. Thanks again! (sorry for rambling!!!)
Resin 3d printers can print wax models for lost wax casting. No different than carving wax. That's how almost all custom jewelry is made these days. Nobody hand carves wax anymore.
As a KIRI Engine developer, I would say this is a very objective video. Good work! This video inspired us to make our App provide higher quality and make it more affordable in the future. And I believe with the technology growing, 3d scanning with phones will elevate to another level.
Wow, thanks! I look forward to seeing what you guys... and others... do with all this. It's amazing how much gets packed into our phones. I think we all sometimes get blinded by the awesome stuff and forget the limitations. Still, it's all very cool. And thanks so much for watching and commenting!
How about finishing the phiz? I spent almost $800cdn buying this hot garbage, during the pandemic, for you guys to drop support almost immediately after releasing it. I would never, and will never, trust anything from Kiri. After the Phiz joke I'm very surprised your company didn't change its name or disappear. The phone tower that originally came didn't work, battery came unplugged because the glue they use couldn't glue toilet paper, so they sent me a second tower. To show everyone how much of a joke Kiri really is they shipped it to me double boxed. Outside box addressed to me. Second box addressed, and had full postage, to some other person.
Sorry to pull a full rant on this awesome video but I want people to see how much Kiri actually (doesn't) stand behind their products. Especially pulling this crap during the pandemic! I had to scrape my pennies together just to be able to purchase this paper weight. End rant.
@@iamtherealevil Hi there! I'm so sorry to hear about this reply. The time with Phiz 3D Scanner was truly unforgettable even to us. We didn't want to change to a new company because we wanted to remember the good and bad things from the old days so it wouldn't happen again.
@@iamtherealevilthrew mine in the trash…. I feel your pain
@@xingyechrishu6382 they should have been refunded. They don't do anything even remotely to what was displayed in the promotional videos. I spent so much time trying to make it work! I even went as far as building it a 3 sided box to block out everything behind the turntable. I was using a Blackberry Priv and it wouldn't work. So I bought a higher end Motorola One Hyper and still got nothing usable. I was blown away by the promotional videos. So disappointed in the actual product.
I almost skipped this video because of the "You'll be shocked" tag line. But it was really well done. Thank you for doing such good work.
from my experience KIRI is also really good for doing things like scanning inside an object as well. i have personally used it to 3D scan the interior of a car along with the frame and it is good enough to reliably make mount points for engine swaps. It is the only one that works much at all for this kind of application.
Thanks for the tips!
Years ago tried some photogrammetry software that didn't work out so good. Thinking Maker World AI might be my next option. Thank you for testing these out.
Scanning still seems to be, not quiet ready but this is a great overview of what is out there. Thanks for the research. Keep up the great content.
Stumbled across this video on UA-cam - excellent review and full of easy to understand info with great presentation. I'm now a subscriber!
Awesome, thank you!
Great video, Eric! Really enjoyed watching this shoulder-to-shoulder comparison. 3D scanning has involved so much in the past few years. Although many phone apps can do 3D scanning, they don't always use the same 3D scanning methods. There's more than one way to make a smartphone do 3D scanning, there are photogrammetry (traditional but still gives the best mesh if done right), LiDAR (fast, but mesh is not so detailed), FaceID (Meh, not a great choice), NeuS (The tech that KIRI Engine and MakerWorld use, I believe) and the recent 3D Gaussian Splatting (Cool but can't generate mesh). But unfortunately, 3D scanning has always been a niche topic that not many people are aware of the pros and cons and the impact of different 3D scanning methods; it's so nice to see a great video on UA-cam that toggles the differences between each 3D scanner app.
Thanks! Yeah, I've always wanted to do this but until now it's been a pain, costly, and never seemed to work. That, and like you said, all the different ways that make no sense! Thanks for the comment!
McMaster university, I guess...so, Canada was good for something.. Did you move back to Xi-land? You said most of the team is in PRC, so maybe you stayed in CDN?
Excellent video! I have a BL A1 Mini myself and didn't even know BL MakerWorld had an AI scanner like this. I'm stoked. I love this channel, and I'll be here to watch it blow up with subs in due time, brother. The best of luck to this channel.
This is something I've wanted to get into for a while now. Thanks for giving a good overview on price and quality.
It's not as easy as I thought it would be. That's for sure. With all the modern technology we have, there's really no reason we don't have good, free programs that we can make scans with jpg files. (That are accurate and measurable/modifiable in CAD programs like Solidworks, AutoCAD and other CAD programs). I haven't really found anything like that yet though and have had to always make parts from scratch.
Thank you so much. I haven't taken the leap yet on the purchase of a 3d scanner. Leaning toward a Bambu printer. Thanks again.
As a sculptor and new to 3D printing I’ve checked out what’s available for mobile apps and everyone wants us to subscribe for monthly fees. As much as I sculpt it’s far more cost effective to just buy a 3D scanner. Sucks but true.
Thank you for a very informative and balanced review. As a relative newbie to 3d printing your video really helps
I have been trying to find an affordable, easy to use, scanning app, for personal use, for years now.
Things have come a long way since I first started looking. There is still room for improvement, but some of these are worth the investment, for me.
Thanks for this review. It was very useful.
Cheers,
Thank you for reviewing the apps, makes it much easier to find good options
Thank you for testing all these apps for us. I think this whole experience would benefit a lot from printing with a resin printer. The layer lines are so apparent that it's hard to discern what app got the sharpest details. Thank you for your research.
RESIN! Yes, I really want to get into Resin... but not really... but YES I do! UGH! So many things to go along with Resin, I haven't made the jump yet. One day! Thanks!
@@my3DPrintLab You already haver a nice printer. I'd just increase the resolution instead. Or try a .025 nozzle.
Great job. I love your straight to the point approach. Sadly, you have given me another learning curve. LOL. Makerworld here I come!
Thank you for the detailed and thorough review. I have a boring object to scan: a battery cover for a remote control. As you can imagine it is almost flat, with some round shape and a notch that locks the battery cover into the remote itself. What would be the best way to scan it? in your review you didn't specify android, iphone or ipad? did you check across these too?
Great video! Nice to see an option that doesn't require iPhone's use of LIDAR and that will work on Android.
I used a kinect to take a scan of my wife, cleaned it up, printed and painted it. Now she hates it lmao.
I did the same thing! I turned it into a sculpture that sits in the kitchen now. By mixing it up a little bit she has come to really love it.
I knew it would happen 😂😂😂
Appreciated the quick run-through, definitely going to try your first pick.
Thanks, used the advice here to make a discontinued part for my S2000 based on the mirrorred 3MF scan from the good part on the other side.
Great video, thanks, you earned my subscription! I didn't think I'd ever be able to get into scanning, but now I'm going to try it!
Glad I could help! Let us know what you decide to use and what you think about it.
Well you have a new subscriber. Well done sir. Thanks for sharing very objective info on currently available 3D scanners.
Awesome, thank you!
What about Scaniverse? I have a friend who uses it and from pics he showed me, it seems ok. Never used it myself to be honest as the Android option has apparently only became available recently. Thanks for the interesting video.
I love the "😐sorry I don't"
Thanks for this, it has been a while. I had given up on using scanning apps
you just saved me tons of research. Absolutely subbed.
I’m just learning about scanning and this was very helpful. Thanks.
Thanks so much! Glad to help!
Kind of despicable IMO how they use their payment schemes. I like the days where you could just buy an app and it's yours. Smh.
"You will own nothing and you will be happy" ringing more and more true these days, except maybe the happiness part...
In fairness most of these are using their own servers to process in the background
Great video man. Did you try variable layer height in Bambu Studio?
I dont do a lot of 3D scanning but when I do I just take the photos and upload to Meshroom on my laptop, I have learned that very busy objects just don't look well in a scan or a 3D print, my best success was some brake/clutch levers I scanned and printed out in Nylon CF for a friend.
If anyone wishes to comment that this is dangerous, don't bother! the levers were tested and well, we couldn't break them.
That's so dang.... HA! I honestly didn't know Meshroom could do that. Sounds interesting. Thanks!
I actually thought you were talking about a car for a second lol, you mean bikes right?
It's not surprising the print size varies, without calibration the software has no idea of the size of the object.
Always try to use local computing if possible. A good PC setup (not a super expensive rig but one normal people can afford) should be able to handle the work load. Cloud computing leads to subscription grifting.
Thank you very much for the info. I don't know diddly about 3d printing. Appreciate the help.
Very good overview. Good work. I waould like to see the same for scanning self, wife,kids. That would be amazing
That would be interesting. I don't know if an app would work since we all move WAY too much. But you can still try! Have fun! Thanks!
As a 3D artist I was actually interested in scanning before I thought of printing. My first attempt was with the Microsoft Kinect. It was pretty horrible.
LOL. Yeah, I tried it as well and total fail. I know a number of people online have it working, but after a few hours of searching, finding drivers and stuff, I gave up. Thanks!
Gained a sub!
Thanks :-)
I have a CR-scan lizard but really like how easy the phone based one’s seem
Thanks so much! I've looked at the Lizard and others, but for most of us they're all just a little too much to justify occasional use. Hence, this video. (It was really for me to find out, but I thought I'd share.... don't tell anybody). 😋
They also need a powerful computer since they don't do web based rendering. Sent the Ferret back some time ago when it came out...just didn't work.
Now they got the Otter and the Raptor...still waiting for more reviews and might get one 2.nd hand some day.
Maybe we get infrared scanning integrated into phones some day....the Lidar option in the iphone 12+ upwards from a still just for playing around....works with Polycam and realityscan.
You left out LumaAI.
@@heavyweather Hey! Thanks for the info. I just looked at LumaAI again to make sure and they seem to be mostly focused on advertising, Blender, and that type of stuff. It may be possible to export for 3D printing, I'm not sure. I'll add it to the list, though. Thanks!
Love the video, I wanna get into this tech but found it hard to nail the actual process. Would you consider a super in depth guide to using your top 3, or even just your overall fave? Makerworld seemed promising, but any footage I give it comes out awful, even with very basic geometry.
Thanks! Yes, I'm actually looking at doing that, but I don't want to revisit it too soon. There are a number of other apps I'm wanting to try out as well. I've had good luck with MakerWorld, so maybe try different camera settings, more shots, that type of thing. Thanks again!
Very good video, and I learn a lot, but the lullaby chimes behind my gosh:))) you have a very decent flow for you to not put this song behind ;))) cheers
Kinda creepy.
I appreciate the time you put into this, but you should’ve used something with a little sharper detail.
Thanks for the nice words! Yeah, I may have missed it on this one. I'm a work in progress, but I'm getting there. ;-)
Very good/interesting. Thanks for this 👍🏴🙂
Qlone: You have a pattern that registers where the camera is in 3D space, you rotate the camera, not the object!
As for scale: The software doesn't know if you are walking around a ship in dry dock or viewing bacteria under a microscope. Rescaling things is a fundimental of 3D.
Correct on both accounts. I probably should have made the paper concept clearer, but it was annoying it didn't work and their response was to "get an iPhone." Also, I just wish the scale could be closer to 1:1, that's why I liked the 'idea' of Qlone. And yes, I should have commented it's just 1's and 0's, so scale isn't a major factor, just kind of annoying to have to get it right after the fact. Thanks for watching and keeping me on track!
Great vid man, exactly all that i was wondering about, saved me a lot of trying out!
With the Qlone, you should move your object but move the camera around it, because they need the background for reference!
I tried a number of ways that didn't make the video, even after contacting the company. I'm waiting for an update and hopefully it'll fix the Android version... or at least, my Galaxy S24+. I really want it to work since I think that mat could be a game changer. And that's why I included it even though I didn't get it to work. Thanks for watching!
If you’re in the iPhone world… Reality Composer from Apple is free and seems to scan well.
YES! Thanks so much, I was hoping someone would comment with iOS specific experience. Good to know!
Nice thing is the heavy use of the Apple spatial volume building from their AR Kit is working behind the scenes. It not only uses regular photogrammetry, it also combines that with LiDAR, motion sensors, and GPS to dial in the geometry as it captures more. And it’s all calculated on device as well.
i've noticed that sometimes you need to switch between inches and mm values in slicer to view actual size of models.
Incredible video, thanks!
Great video. Would have been interested to see the same experiment with a resin printer.
(Also, your background music sounds like a cell phone ringing for 9 minutes straight. On behalf of those of us nutbags with misophonia... Have mercy, bro.)
I would love to do this on resin, maybe one day. And yes, I've already made notes about music. Wish I could retroactively fix it... sorry for that! Thanks!
I tried the MakerWorld AI Scanner. It gave me very good results, however, it does not capture the surface image texture. The model is without color, which is fine for 3D printing, but not for photoscanning objects for rendering. For that, I've had pretty good results from MagiScan. I figured out a technique for improving models from MagiScan in Blender using the image texture as a displacement map, first subdividing, then displacing, and decimating to reduce the face count. It adds a lot of detail to the original scan. This can't be done with MakerWorld AI Scanner because it doesn't create a UV map.
That is SO cool! I've never really gotten into Blender, but now I want to try this. One day.... ;-)
Thanks for the video, I’ve been thinking about exploring scanning. Can’t help but think the details would be more apparent and even with a resin print?
i had the same thought, but I only have FDM. Still, if you start with a "poor" or low quality scan, unless you're REALLY into Blender or something, it's going to come out the same no matter what. Although... maybe I could use this as an excuse for resin....??? 🤔😜
Great video! I would be interested to hear your take on using Face ID to scan objects
I've been looking into scanning apps with photos that can be taken with any camera... and the finished scans have to be functionally identical and working parts when they're finished (CAD measurable and modifiable)... but I just haven't had any luck.
When it comes to photogrammetry, I also had very good experiences with “3DF Zephyr FREE”.
However, this is not a mobile app but it is 100% free. No matter whether 1 scan or 100,000 scans.
Up to 50 images per object, the higher the resolution, the better the result. The program has also mapped the finest structure in the leather (and also flaws) from the dashboard and incorporated it into the mesh.
The Maker AI scan works way, way better than Polycam, especially those who have a rotating base. Thank you so much!
Thank you for this video, I have been needing an alternative to Magiscan for a while. Quick question, how do you cut off the bottom (excess scanned areas) of the model? That's my biggest issue with Magiscan, is that it scans the whole plane that I put my model on.
Easiest way is the slicer. Make sure it's standing straight up and use the Cut tool to slice it off, or you'll have to rotate the slicer and try to guess as to what's level. If your slicer lets you drop it below the build plate, you can slice it that way and just use the Cut tool right on the build plate. You'll probably end up with holes, ie... non-watertight, so be sure to run a repair. Most slicers fix that now. Good luck!
Great video! Really informative. Ditch the music.
Thanks for this. This was really helpful.
I need to scan the fender of a car, drop it into a 3D cad program, then design parts to fit that surface. Do you have any recommendations?
very informative, thanks for your work
For that small features you could use openscan.
I have had great luck with openscan! It's a little different than the types reviewed here, but I use it on a weekly basis for scanning small things that would otherwise be super time-consuming to model.
How do you also scan inside the object to get the internal lip inside with these Android apps?
Any idea for a replacement to windows 3d builder for converting glb to stl? They've shut it down and replaced it with a simple viewer.
Thank you for all the insight!
Very informative and helpfull video👍
excellent video, thanks for the work
Thanks for the video. Saved me some time
EM3d was not mentioned and its the best 3d scanning app by far because it uses the IR camera in the FRONT of the iphone which is much better for small objects. And only costs $6 to export to OBJ or STL. The rear LIDAR is good for large objects, not so much for small ones.
Thanks for letting us know! I know that the Lidar and IR is an area the iPhone is ahead of Android, so hopefully this is a good alternative for you iOS users. Thanks again!
Good review!
Thanks for the reviews and confirming that for the hobbyist, there isn’t yet a real viable option for scanning. Sad.
Viable? Well, yeah, but some of them do pretty good at this point. Don't forget that I intentionally used the DEFAULT settings in every one to judge them equally, as well as the FREE option. All the Pro levels claim to get better resolution, etc. I plan to do shorts on the Free ones and max out the quality as much as possible. I'm with you, though, I really hoped I'd get a lot better results. Thanks for watching!
nice, very detailed!
*the video, not necessarily the 3d printed object :)
I want to scan a PS5 controller to make a stand for it. What app would you recommend for that?
Thank you for this info. I just requested a refund on the Android version of Qlone, since it seems that is an abandoned project for them, such a shame.
Could you tell us which phone you were using in your tests?
Oops! I thought I mentioned it... I started with a Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra, but then had to start over with a new phone, the Galaxy S24+. Results were identical between the two phones, though.
Great video! Thank You‼️👍😊
Great info ! Thanks!
thank you for sharing and educating.
Great information. Thank you!
Thanks, informative video!
I see MakerWorld AI is owned by Bambu Labs. What is the business incentive for offering this service for free?
Good question! I had the same thought, but I can only assume it's advertising for their brand. Or it could be that this is a "testing" ground for a later, more advanced Pay version.
They do a lot of community building projects to entice people to move to their platform and I can say as a person in that platform, dear lord does it make a difference and make things easier to the point of I don't even consider buying filament from other sources any longer. Their tight integrations within their MakerWorld for built in print profiles for each printer and RFID tags for each filament means I can see a model, click and print it with 100% success rate every time, every filament (from them). I've literally never had a failed print yet in my first 200~ prints. I chalk this up to staying inside of that ecosystem. It's close to why Apple products work well together and they have so many "free" services. It makes you want to stay in that platform for the combined benefits of ease of use/convenience.
Super video. Very useful and much appreciated, but I think you may have broken MakerWorld :-) Today I see "Image to 3D Model App is Temporarily Suspended" though your link looks like it still works.
HA! Yeah, I saw that the Pic to 3D generator was down, but I didn't notice any scanner issues. I haven't gotten any emails, but maybe they'll scale everything up and get better. Maybe? Thanks for watching!
i wold lower the layer hight to get better result
I would love to scan a 1/32 model of a RF-4B Phantom jet , enlarging it to 1/12 or 1/8 scale. Then add canards to the front making a mold for an R/C scale model of a YRF-4E, 62-12200. Seems the original plane has been condemned to storage at WPAFB , well it went in for new paint about 12 years ago, was moved to storage after I offered to get some brushes from the shed and come help paint it , yep next day it's status changed ..truth. now one person at the base was kind enough to send me some photos ....but during those 12 years this retiree, got old, it happens if your lucky .take care .
Wow! That would be an awesome project. If you could scan it, I would definitely recommend a more robust 3D scanner. If you only have pics, you might be able to use a Pic to 3D converter like MakerWorld has, but I've found that NONE of them really work great... yet. Also, you're not old... just wiser! Keep it up and thanks for watching!
Thanks!
If you have to sign up for a monthly subscription you may as well save a lot of money and buy a dedicated scanner that will also do a much better job. The free apps looked like they did a decent enough scan for a lot of things.
Maybe I wasn't paying attention but was there not any buy it once options? Were they actually all subscription or free?
RealityScan is FREE, and Magiscan does have a Lifetime option that I would rather spend on a dedicated scanner of $399. Qlone was the best by far at $19.99, but I couldn't use it on Android, which is why you may have missed it. Thanks!
The background music drives me nuts!
Great info. Thank you
3D What file formats does Ai scanner support? It did not support MP4.
VERY-INTERESTING :)
THANK YOU FOR SHARING :)
THANK YOU FROM ISRAEL :)
Cool! Thanks for watching!
Awesome content
There were no options to choose an approximate “/mm or xyz size?
Not that I saw, but I wasn't going "full in" on any of the apps. I presume most of those types of settings would be in the Pro (ie... Paid) versions. But, since it's all 1's and 0's, scaling doesn't seem to make a difference in quality, thankfully.
Iphone has a time-of-flight sensor. (my android to but the app does not use it)
I use a Realsense from intel and actualy make real 3d scans :P (i think thats what most "cheap" 3d scanner's anyways )
You should really be vowing the models without texture before printing so that you have a better idea of the geometry you're actually working with.
I need to make a head scan for helmets any help
Sorry not clear if you are using a Lidar equipped phone or not ?
Nope, no Lidar. Only iPhone at this time has that (I think). I'm on a Samsung Galaxy S24+ with multiple cameras on it, so that helps some.
I'm looking to convert my car into a car camper. Do you know of any apps that could allow me to scan the interior of my car to layout designs?
Probably a dedicated scanner would be the way to go. I did look at Arloopa but it's more for Augmented Reality stuff, like for Real Estate. That may work? Good luck!
Another person on here said Kiri actually works well for that, they use it for scanning engine bays etc.
Have you tried scanning using an XBox Kinect?
Yes! I was going to mention it in the video but it was already super long. I've been a PC tech in the past and use Windows, so I thought it would work. But after LOTS of different tutorials, drivers, and WAY too many hours, I just gave up. I know the multi-camera thing should give a much better scan, but it just didn't work for me. A lot of people have done it, though, so go for it! Thanks for watching!
Have you looked into gaussian splatting at all? That's where I'm heading in my 3D scanning adventure. As all these softwares as services are pretty bad.
I haven't heard of that, but I'm kind of like most people... why I did this video ;-) Just trying to see what's what. I'll definitely look into it. Thanks!
Just a guess, but, are you a computer forensics expert by any chance?
LOL. No, but I've been in computers for a while. Just a musician with LOTS of tech experience who really enjoys pretty much everything related, especially 3D Printing! Thanks!
@@my3DPrintLab Ahh, okay, I was looking at your shirt which says 'Expert ENCE', where I thought ENCE was a certification for computer forensics experts. But maybe there's an ENCE abbreviation I'm not familiar with! :)
Excelent video. Just wish you drop the annoying background music.
That lifetime license price is now than I paid for my revo scanner...
so why does the MakerWorld AI Scanner app link to bamboo labs? just a coincidence i'm sure.
MakerWorld is owned by Bambu Lab. No coincidence.
I wish I wasn't so old now -- I'm 63 and a retired certified millwright.
I'm also not very computer literate. I can do email and copy n paste --- LOL.
I looked into 3D scanning years ago before I even dreamed of buying a printer. It was obvious to me at the time that scanning was THE issue. If they can't build a scanner that sends code to a printer ACCURATELY then it's all a waste of time, at least for someone like me who is computer challenged. I have trouble even using the paint program and still don't know how to use it very well.
Why would I want to use 3D printing ?
I can build almost anything I need on my milling machine or my lathe.
The problem is that if the item is complex then 3D scanning n printing is THE answer as it's to complicated for a home machinist.
The other issue.
3D printing involves plastic. I want to make an item out of wax but there are NO wax printers out there.
Why wax ?
Answer: Because if I have a wax mold I can cast the item in metal. I also do aluminum casting. I'm still working on the porosity issue. But at the end of the day I want the final product in metal.
By the way, great video.
Thanks for watching! Lots of things to unpack here! ;-)
First, You're not old! Keep going and have fun!
Next, I don't think any scanner actually sends it to the printer. You always have to do some editing and stuff, but it's definitely getting easier.
As far as Why? Check out some of my other videos. It's fun, I fix a LOT of stuff around the house, and well, it's fun!
For wax stuff, 3D printing is PERFECT for making molds. Of course, you have to design it first, or find it online, but it's a great way to go. Candles, silicon, wax... you name it. Just use the right filament for the heat requirements.
I do a lot of woodworking and love using my lathe as well, but 3D printing has fixed a LOT more things around the house. I mean, the bed and table and stuff I've made are great, but not spending $10 or $50 bucks here and there on stuff that breaks, and making it to my personal taste, is pretty awesome. Like the rings I did in a video that go around my ceiling lights. Designed in about 5 minutes, printed all in an hour or so, and they look like I bought them.
It's a new skill, yes, but I obviously love it. Thanks again! (sorry for rambling!!!)
There are filaments available developed for "lost wax casting".
@@my3DPrintLab Thank you for the reply -- it's not rambling, it's sharing info. Thx.
@@faramineuzefotos2975 I didn't know that. Thanks for the reply.
Resin 3d printers can print wax models for lost wax casting. No different than carving wax. That's how almost all custom jewelry is made these days. Nobody hand carves wax anymore.
Can't see paying monthly for any program.
I know people that have iphones, but theres no way they could be considered a friend
I’m sure they feel the same about you.
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