Ron, there's a difference between a "scratch" and a "scuff." They're not the same. I'll indicate scuffs in my Ebay ads, but if it has a "scratch," per se, I won't even list it.
Well done. Helpful video. Thank you. I love the fact that you really preach about making sure people know more than just a grade. Describe what the buyer is getting. The records I sell aren't really meant for the avid audiophiles but I have dealt with some. Description of what I see is the key. Being honest is the only way and thankfully that is working for me. Thanks again Ron.
You ever get a record home and it looks near mint and when you put it on it sounds like the sea then you get a record that looks shot and there is no noise at all.
not really when I see a record looks near-mint they play near mint when I get record looks beat up it plays and sounds like a piece of junk that's the norm
I have been a licensed and certified appraiser for 42 years. While my field isn't vinyl records, all appraising by anyone of condition of any item being appraised or graded is an OPINION, not an exact fact. In most fields, there isn't even an exact set of guidelines that clearly define when an item fits into a specific grading category. It usually comes down to the judgement of the grader. Honest and accurate graders like Ron are to be commended for the truthfulness of their evaluations. Disclosure of all defects observed is a critical key element to proper grading. I applaud Ron for being willing to do just that. That said, condition is just one of many factors that affect value or the price at which an item might sell in the open market. Often way too much importance is placed on condition. While sound quality is absolutely important to nearly all listeners, age, scarcity, artist popularity, music label,, and a host of other factors can affect price far more than just condition alone. In fact, sometimes just being able to own a specific record, even if not in pristine condition, is still enough to cause records to fetch very high prices in the marketplace. Just like flaws from use over time add value and authenticity to items like antiques, rare coins, vintage cars, old books, and even artwork, a record may still increase in value despite having some minor blemishes. Definitely consider condition, yes, but I feel far too many people place way too much importance on condition grading alone and fail to look at the total picture when shopping for vintage records. Condition is NOT everything!
Hello thanks for your thoughtful reply a lot good insight there When it comes to selling records on the Internet photographs don't tell the whole truth about the vinyl surface that has to be inspected under bright light and prices for records are Determined by Supply and demand if you have a record with a high demand it will fetch a higher price and the higher the quality the higher price. As well if you have a record with no demand regardless of its grade it still has little value. People that have been collecting records for many years seek out very rare items of very high quality they are very fussy And eBay policy requires truth in advertising As I discussed in the video thanks again for your watching and glad you enjoyed the video when buying records online many folks have Purchased over rated and graded items from online sellers and value sellers who are trustworthy
I feel like your grading holds a very unprecedentedly high standard. Especially in today's market, Japanese pressings in the US are hard to find, or ridiculously expensive. Vinyl is also hard to keep "without hairline scratches." The material itself is a very fragile surface, and small dust particles cause hairline scratches. I have a fairly high quality setup, and hairline scratches make no noise, or surface noise for me. Especially when played back. Im picky about my conditions too, but I feel like this is just anal at this point. Some people don't know how to grade records, which is understandable. I just feel like this grading scale should have a bit more leniency. Each record I've sold on discogs, has had a positive review and they say it looks very clean.
I wish my local record store was like you. I just spent $35 on an old Alice Coltrane today and it has those pops on SideB from a scratch. Plus surface noise. And I know if I tried to return it I'd have an argument on my hands.
I too incorporate an Exc grade between NM (which I hardly use) and VG+. I also don’t list anything under VG+, unless it’s rare. I grade the cover, lp and sleeve separately.
Hi Ron, could you give an example of the different types of surface noise there could be in second hand records? I would like to hear the difference between surface that overpowers the music and not
I always come back to your video when selling and grading records that excellent to mint, and your right a lot of brand new records still shrink wrapped, may already be scratched. I purchased a brand spanking new record in the beginning of this year from the UK, and I was surprised to find three hairline scratches on the record after I opened it. I still kept the record, but I let the seller know about it.
erick medeiros yes I purchased a new 2lp 45 rpm 50 dollar record comes with many hair lines I think it must be a new vinyl formulation its not as resilient as the older vinyl. and more care is needed at the pressing plants to insure quality Now for grading used records near mint could be 2 or 3 small very lite hair lines that you can only see under very bright light for ex+ around 5 per side but you can tell is the record neat mint ok or does it just miss near mint by a bit like you say we are now getting ex+ as new records and it will never be a near mint even new so some discretion is needed
Wade Kutella that is when their are marks around the spindle hole of the record on its label. Caused by the spindle from the turntable. So better aim is needed to avoid this. Accurate grading will note this blemish.
Great video! I wish more dealers would play their records through before giving them just a visual grade. I've even run into some where a visual grade couldn't pick up the scratches because the record was so dirty and they claimed it was unplayed. I'm glad I'm not the only picky one. I've had some bad experiences from discogs. Not too many from eBay but at least there is some protection there. I am curious. I figure you'd return a record if it was new and the pressing was bad ? And was noisy with clicks and or loud pops ?
yes i just returned a new records a couple a weeks back bad pressing would not track first song on both sides weird never had that problem before. now noisy with clicks and or loud pops ? I purchased the new pink folyd record new played it heard pop pop what the heck little pieces of paper off the inner sleeve stuck to the record after cleaning played fine. but lots a new records come with a very few lite hairlines per side they are not pristine but them a lot are
Hi Ron, I can't stress enough how much I enjoy your videos! Very workman-like ,yet enjoyable,EDUCATIONAL!! and fun! I would assume that you clean any preowned vinyl that you purchase but ( let me guess but I think I know the answer) do you also clean brand new ,sealed albums before you play them?( my guess is "yes",? natch).Be safe and good health to you sir!
Hello Michael yes I can't stress enough how much I enjoyed your comments thank you so much. Yes I always clean my pre own vinyl but lately I haven't been cleaning my new records because I usually do it in like batches and I haven't got around to it lately but it's on the list. I need to get some more inner Sleeves I wanna buy a large pack of quality Records inner sleeves thanks for your most welcome comments and thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the videos
Thanks for that. Very helpful. However I still find the problematic area where there are visible lines - then you have to play it. And many sellers, particularly those who have 1000+ listings are simply not going to play it. Even the large used record stores are not going to play it and its considered acceptable in that venue for it to be somewhat of a dice throw for the buyer. But the Ebay seller has a bit of a quandary on their hands because of the unique nature of that marketplace (i.e. feedback- which is a stringent, walk on thin ice standard that I suggest no commercial corporation could survive). You want to give good service, yet the nature of the marketplace is not going to allow you to do it and remain profitable - not if you want to do more than casual selling and not if you want to work for more than minimum wage - when you factor in photos, description, packing, etc. And supposedly a buyer is looking for the non-casual seller.
yep your right, selling about anything you collect on ebay is a lot of work, like you say " when you factor in photos, description, packing, etc.": it takes a lot of time to do all that stuff, and do it properly. Then if you don't have that really rare item in NM condition you are not making much money. BUT for most folks like me who live in a smaller town where else can you sell your records? So when I no longer want to keep a record or I buy a upgraded record for my collection, I do have an outlet for the items I no longer need, which is great, and you don't have to take someone's opinion of what it's value is (when you trade records at a record shop) you can check on ebay and see what the market place values your item at.
Thanks for these tips, I'm helping my Grandfather sell his 45s online and I am just scouting eBay for prices etc. but correctly grading them is something i'm keen on doing as well of course. Would you say that "grading" the state of the cover sleeve is just as important to a buyer? and does not having the original cover lower the price much? in most cases they are complete and NM but I noticed some I am wanting to sell for him have no cover for example. thanks
everything matters to collectors everything must be in near mint condition to command top price you are on the right track scouting eBay for prices etc. .that's the best advice I have as well The ones that have no outer sleeve you will need to purchase a generic one to sell it and also for shipping ww.sleevecityusa.com/7-inch-die-cut-white-jacket-for-45s-p/3jac7in.htm
You can buy used vinyl that looks mint but can have fine dirt in the grooves. I prefer to sell CDs because you can grade by looking at them. U can only grade vinyl by playing it.
Very nice video, you did a great job explaining vinyl grading from Mint to Excellent, but it really didn't help me much. I completely understand and get vinyl grading from the Mint to Excellent standpoint. It get's tricky however when you go down to the VG+ VG G+ G levels. you may not buy or sell those records but a lot of other people do. I sell records on eBay, and I'm currently trying to list a first pressing of King Crimson's classic debut, but I'm at a standstill with the grading on this paticular record. There's a little bit of light surface scratches but the record sounds really really good.
Erick Medeiros hello the grade is an opinion at best just try to explain what the defects are and how the record plays thats what folks want to know, thanks for watching
Good video. I DJ so many of my records are worn but in playable condition (mostly the ones that i use to play in clubs and shows all the time). It kind of reminds me of comic books in which once the comic book is open, it losses its value. You also have to account if the record is warped or not.
Great video Ron. I personally like the way you grade your records. I would definitely feel comfortable purchasing albums off you, at least it would be as graded or better and not the other way. There is a lot of poorly graded records on EBay for sure. I'm just getting back into it and loving it! Oh by the way, I'd buy your box of unsellable any day!
+audiefied Thanks Bro if you look down in the comments Dr. Dead Wax has all ready purchased them I also have given a lot a non sellable records to my Kids friends
Hi Ron, I know youmake a lot of on line purchases do I was wondering who youmight recommend to purchase a copy of " Share the land" by the Guess Who, Amazon only has 3rd party sellers and I'm looking for new or mint! Thanks alan
My parents gave me their record collection to sell. I sold allot of the pristine ones on eBay in the beginning. But then again I had allot with scratches that you would call junk. That I didn't want to sell. A collectable shop in town told me that heavily scratched records are still worth allot to some people. Then I sold a heavily scratched howling wolf record for $150 I think if the record is real common they will expect nothing less than pristine but the more rare the more acceptable defects are. Heck you could have the album without a record and still sell that if someone needs it. I've sold 50 records on the bay and have only had one problem but I am constantly refining my methods for 110% satisfaction
You are right, after reading this i have now started selling a few records I call ex condition and tell folks DISC: OK now for those folks that don't need a near mint pristine playing surface I have a few records that I bought out of Japan that were over graded by the seller, and instead of sending them back I am selling them at below cost. THE LP IS in EXCELLENT to EX- CONDITION, there are some, minor, lite hairlines, that you can only see under very bright, direct light, that 99% do not sound, Disc plays NEAR MINT, may have the odd dust crackle, in normal lighting LP looks near mint! A really nice record that would make a wonderful play copy! I usually sell them for around 10 bucks or maybe they bid it up a little more but hey its better than laying up against the wall thanks for you help Bro you Rock!!
last comment - what about warps? I don't know the terms, but I've seen warps over the entire record diameter (like a pringle) and others just near the outer edge. Does it ruin a grade if it does not cause the needle to jump?
any kind of a warp for me is junk I don't sell those records. its a deal breaker for most buyers but if you have a very very small warp where the arm goes up and down so very slightly this could be sellable just be careful if you try to sell warped records many consider these records junk just like a scratched record or one that skips
I have a large collection I bought of Opera records usually they are 2-4 records in a box. Most seem like near mint condition but you never know for sure. It would take me forever to listen to them all the way thru so I could rate the condition. I plan to sell these on ebay. What should I do?
Jeff Schotland watch this video you don't have to listen to them all just inspect them under direct bright light. if they are dusty you may also want to clean them
Ron Beaudry What I was really worried about is surface noise from being played on a cheap turntable and not so much scratches that you can actually see.
well if they look near mint "they look new under bright direct light" then they were not played enough to wear off any of the new, and should play new. At this point any noise will come from static and or dust
I encounter marks sometimes that would not be described as scratches nor scuffs - In a particular case for example, a record has what looks like a line of dashes along the groove path - (looks like the dashed line on a road) . Any suggestions for what to call that? there are no audible effects. Thanks
its best to describe all defects as you see them other wise buyer has an out for item not as described thats why I sell really nice records with minor defects but some times for records that play great but look not so good tell you customer that for folks that don't need perfect looking records something like that good luck and thanks for watching
May I ask your opinion? A copy of Yes 90125 recently sold on Ebay for over $100. It was a promo and the seller put this in the listing information - "THE RECORD HAS 'MASTERDISK' STAMP IN THE TRAIL-OFF VINYL (DEAD WAX) AREA, WHICH IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED A PROOF OF AUTHENTICITY OF THE FIRST PRESSING." Is that a true statement as far as you know? thanks
well I am far from an expert but I have never seen that "masterdisk" stamped on anything before I have a number of Japanese promos at this time for sale on ebay and I will do some more research when I get home, But If someone is willing to pay 100 bucks for a 90125 promo I guess they know what they are buying. Records do have different Catalog Numbers on the cover and record label this is how to tell a first edition but a first press is different again, you could always check popsike.com or other online sites with specific information. generally a promo is from the first pressing of a Catalog Number if you have a first edition promo it stands to reason it is almost a very first press and that is why its so rare
When would you call a record VG+ or VG? There seem to be buyers who are willing to buy those grades - perhaps because they want a good playable copy and don't want to put wear on their better copy? For instance, I see titles like Dark Side of the Moon, the Wall, Houses, etc. even selling at good+. Or perhaps they don't know what good+ means.
Well here is the problem with different standards one persons EX may be another persons VG+ and so on As I said in the video it doesn't matter what you call the grade you still have to list every defect to be safe when you sell records that are not near mint. If the record has 100 lite hair lines then you need to explain that in your listing. How does it play, noisy lots of clicks pops, dust crackles, does it play as quiet as a NM record. some peoples turntables are noisy some play less noisy. . This whole idea of a grade be it EX or VG meaning something you can say I know what the record is going to look like is wrong. its all someones opinion. if you say the record is what ever grade and say it has a few lite hair lines then when the buyer gets it and he claims it has many scratches well he then gets his money back. just describe the condition as accurately as possible that's why I don't sell any thing that is not very close to NM grade. its not worth the risk and hassle to me and I wish to be know as a seller that sell nice records period. but I know what you mean some very rare records that sell for big bucks in NM condition someone may still be willing to buy a copy that has some defects for considerably less money.
Ron Beaudry in terms of playing it safe, one option I have experimented with is offering free returns. That way, if the buyer is unhappy with the record they know they can send it back without a loss and less likely to be upset.
SuperJV4x of course you have to have a return policy and even if you don't if the buyer makes a claim that the item is not as described they get their money back anyway point is you don't want returns as a seller and buyers don't want drama from sellers just follow my advice and describe as best as you can you will have no problems records that sell are the hard to find ones in near mint condition, super mega rare records in EX condition (who has these type records?) audiophile type records in near mint condition and sealed records. just the run of the mill records in average condition are a dime a dozen and people go to thrift stores and flea markets garage sales for that type product. There are millions of records on ebay and folks on ebay are cheap looking for the best deal and they buy price. Unless you have some records in high demand and no supply its hard to get big money for records. good luck Ron
As long as the 'imperfections' do not effect play you can grade it as EX. The problem is Mint / Near Mint unplayed records can sound terrible and those that look VG, lots of scratches, even feelable ones, can sound great. If over $10 a seller should play the disc before selling.
No a first pressing is a pressing from the first Stampers used lot of times it will be 1 a and 1 b the first Stamper with side a and the first Stamper with side B records pressed during the same time period May have 3A 4B 7A 5B anything that was from the original pressing year would being original pressing the very first records made as a first pressings that's one reason that promos are collectible because they are always from the first pressing but the first issue original issues they usually all sound very close these pressings will always sound better than records made later
I find it hard to believe you can find a used record without a hairline scratch when your talking 20 or 30 year old records. I buy many records and don't mind a little click or pop . That to me is the beauty of vinyl . Other wise I would just stick to CDs witch by the way I don't play.
well i find them all the time Japanese vinyl is more resilient. I get Japan 40 year old records that are pristine, not a lot mind you but i still get some like that many others only have 2 or 3 tiny hairlines that you can only see under very bright direct light these i call near mint but hay new records and the vinyl they use today they come sealed with some small hairlines really hard to get pristine new vinyl.today thank for your much valued comments
I purchased a Bob Dylan Greatest Hits first press from 1967 on EBay without a single paper scuff,scratch or spindle mark.The album cover was pristine and it also included the original Milton Glaser poster also in like new shape.Believe it or not a lot of people take very good care of their albums, got it for 25 dollars and the seller description was accurate. Near mint albums are surely out there
I have a concern about visually grading records - I've looked at records in bright light and the vinyl is clean. Then play it and there is significant surface noise. Do you have any insights on that? Problem is, I have so many records to sell, I can't play them all to check. But there is a fear that someone is going to leave negative feedback as in the case I described. Some people will even leave negative fbdk with a free return policy. Any advice appreciated.
checking for hairline scratches under the bright light is key. however yes I have got records that looked near mint but had a lot of surface noise from embedded dirt. this is usually from wet cleaning done improperly and now the dirt is deep in the Groove. I have a few videos about cleaning records you might want to check them out. I use the spin clean and the record doctor V thanks for watching glad you're enjoying the videos
What would you rate a record with say 2 hairline scuffs on each side but one of those scuffs ran almost from the outside all the way to the label? its totally inaudible and has no other markings. It an album from 1982 by the way,
well maybe more like EX if the record looks nm in normal light and only has 2 hairline scratches so fine they do not sound but one is long well maybe ex+ its the scuff that through me off usually a scuff is a rub of some kind and has multiple lines running the same direction still ex the whole idea is you just identify all the defects for EX+ I just usually say has a few lite hairlines that you can only see under very bright direct light that do not sound record still plays Near Mint
heres the deal the rating is arbitrary what I want to know when I purchase a record is what defects are on the record to contribute to said grade thanks for your most welcome comments cheers Ron
not sure if I've ever seen a record that was mint in my 27 yrs of dealing with vinyl though I'm sure it exists. I've bought brand new albums (years ago) and after opening and playing them they skipped. Some light skips can be fixed by gently pressing down on the needle and cutting through the skip but it still leaves an audible pop, it won't skip anymore but will still make a noise which can be annoying to some people for obvious reasons. Anything that has audible crackles or pops but plays ok I'd sell as fair for 99 cents as-is online and 50 cents privately. Some people will buy the record no matter what it sounds like if they're just after the album art-I used to frequent vinyl stores in Greenwich Village that would up the price of a crappy record if the album cover was by a famous artist because they knew it would sell regardless of how many skips were on the record.
what you're calling I a mint record I would call that pristine and I have seen quite a few of them. I purchased my records from Japan that's where I buy most of my records for resale most of them that I sell are what you would call a near-mint not pristine but have just a very very few minor hairlines as I described in the video. I was asked how I grade records this is how I do it your mileage may vary thank you for watching the video
You really do not know if a record is mint condition unless you play every single second of it. It can look mint, but if it has even one pop, it is not mint. I think excellent condition is safe to say. In the end, grading records is subjective.
near mint records are going to have a couple of little static noises very light things every record does there's no record plays perfect that's why they are near mint not perfect mint
I buy used, scratched up, non-playing CDs for literally pennies on the dollar and use a headlight restoration kit to bring them back to life and resell them... I can't make money off fools like that with records.
I hate eBay now , there are so many chancers, more than before, people buying from Charity shops, boot sales or whatever and then saying the record is near mint (sic) ex or vg, when you get the record they are no more than fair/good. I have now taken back about 50% of my records in the last 3 months, I am seriously considering pulling out of eBay and buying from my local record shop where I can see the cover and record. I also find with eBay, is that a lot of pictures hide the absolute truth, e.g pictures of covers , but not the whole picture only part of it and then the record is sent with bumps on the edges covers. Over grading the vinyl is the major issue , I have had a lot of sellers refunding and not even wanting the record back as they have to pay for postage to have their junk back!
Wow, you're a true piece of shit!! You just do that to keep free records. It's people like you that are killing it for everyone. I understand if the record condition is totally off from what they stated, but if they state there's scratches, you should expect a record with scratches. If they state the record is in NM, you should still expect scratches, it's Ebay you clown! No one is a professional record appraiser there. It's just regular Joe's trying to make a few dollars to feed themselves and their families.
gradeing is a shame these days .. a guy send me the wrong record and askd how we split shipping back to him .. then i finaly got my buffalo springfield .again .. and it was clamed as very good .. i call that piss poor .. but yea dont want to lose even more money .. so i order another one some day ..
All people have to do is read my guidelines to grading records. It was written in 1996 and I specifically wrote for people who buy and sell on Ebay. You can find my guide at this website in both English and Japanese. www.lptown.com/html/goldmine.html
Personally id say a few tiny scratches is still Near Mint,but quite liberal with ratings Sealed/Not sealed but never has been touched = Mint Only tiny hairscratches,dont affect sound = NM A few deeper scratches,only affect sound in quiet parts = VG Anything below = Good Literal Garbage = Fair(what even is the point of a rating below Good,its literally worth only cents at this point) Considering Covers: No Flaws = Mint A few flaws,only noticable up close,dont break up cover = NM A few small flaws that break up the cover = VG Alot of noticable marks,but still a consistent piece of paper = Good "Did someone pee on this?" = Fair IMPORTANT:NEVER USE + OR - RATINGS,They DO NOTHING BUT MAKE THE RATING SCALE USELESS Id advice against only buying near mint,if its cheap nm,get it,but with rarities id advice getting VG so its still affordable
Opened vinyl records should never be graded as 'mint' ('M') anyway. ( as shouldn't ANY 78 record, obviously) However, 'Buyer protection' shouldn't be construed as 'seller punishment' either. Think before you buy! Why not ask sellers for extra photos and in direct sunlight? I would not plop down my hard earned money on an opened record, that was graded as 'M'. It's logically quite antithetical. In other words it is a no brainer to not expect to see a MINT record come out of an opened jacket even if it is graded as such. ..and for that matter, get over yourself, no need getting your panties in a wad because you expected something so fantastical to land in your hands! -been there done that. A collection made up of records unexamined by you in person doesn't deserve your 'pickiness' attitude! It's eBay for crying out loud, not Sotheby's!
first of all I was asked how do I grade records. so I explained how I do it. if you buy a record for me and I say it's near mint and you hold it up to a bright light and examine it you will see it's almost perfect and it will play near mint that's how I do It. agreed you will get a lot of poorly graded records from eBay but that's not how I do it.
Exactly, well said. It's Ebay, it's a bunch of regular Joe's trying to make a buck to feed themselves and their families, and this dork is trying to take a meal out of the mouth of a child or some poor hard working Joe, because he's a spoiled mama's boy who needs to listen to his records after working at his rich daddie's lawyer firm. I bet he's the type to leave negative feedback and start a claim to not pay.
It does not worth it. Reissues and dropping world economy killed vinyl record market. I can only sell record for half price, which I paid 10 years ago. Also stupid eBay hide your listings as well.
Yes those near meant and then there is pristine and I have seen some but only Japan records because of their JVC super vinyl is resilient and you can't find a scratch, hairline or blemish under bright light with only a few I've seen like that And I have sold them the description was Pristine and nobody complained they agreed Slight yeah for your average USA pressing there's always going to be something wrong like I said I now days you buy new records they come with scratches and hairlines on them in the shrink
You sir I find way over the edge here. 20 or 30 even 40 years old records you will not find a perfect even sealed that wont have a scratch . I would not deal with you as your prices would be way to high and then by your standards I would HAVE to return to you becouse the label wasn't clean . Wasted my time .
Most of my record collection I would say is near men that's the way I like and I get a lot of Records out of Japan of course Japan super vinyl is more resilient and it's easy to find near mint even pristine 30-40 year old records I did sell a lot of Records on eBay and I did sell some VG stuff But I described all the defects. if you remember in the video I did say brand new records it's hard to get near mint records nowdays because they come with a lot of hairline scratches brand new.
ok rookie where do you sell your records and buy your japanese original records because I have sold hundreds of records on ebay I live in a small town in georgia where do I go to get top dollar for rare records also I think you live in a country that no one on ebay will ship to lol
You must be an informed buyer,look at seller ratings ,study the photos of the item,look at what the seller has for sale,if records aren't what they mainly sale you might want to move on.I personally have great experiences with EBay, but I do my homework. Would appreciate a seller with your knowledge.
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Ron, there's a difference between a "scratch" and a "scuff." They're not the same. I'll indicate scuffs in my Ebay ads, but if it has a "scratch," per se, I won't even list it.
Well done. Helpful video. Thank you. I love the fact that you really preach about making sure people know more than just a grade. Describe what the buyer is getting. The records I sell aren't really meant for the avid audiophiles but I have dealt with some. Description of what I see is the key. Being honest is the only way and thankfully that is working for me. Thanks again Ron.
+Robert Savage you are welcome Robert, glad you are enjoying my channel
Robert Savage Exactly Right, Robert 👏 Well said!
You ever get a record home and it looks near mint and when you put it on it sounds like the sea then you get a record that looks shot and there is no noise at all.
not really when I see a record looks near-mint they play near mint when I get record looks beat up it plays and sounds like a piece of junk that's the norm
I have been a licensed and certified appraiser for 42 years. While my field isn't vinyl records, all appraising by anyone of condition of any item being appraised or graded is an OPINION, not an exact fact. In most fields, there isn't even an exact set of guidelines that clearly define when an item fits into a specific grading category. It usually comes down to the judgement of the grader. Honest and accurate graders like Ron are to be commended for the truthfulness of their evaluations. Disclosure of all defects observed is a critical key element to proper grading. I applaud Ron for being willing to do just that.
That said, condition is just one of many factors that affect value or the price at which an item might sell in the open market. Often way too much importance is placed on condition. While sound quality is absolutely important to nearly all listeners, age, scarcity, artist popularity, music label,, and a host of other factors can affect price far more than just condition alone. In fact, sometimes just being able to own a specific record, even if not in pristine condition, is still enough to cause records to fetch very high prices in the marketplace.
Just like flaws from use over time add value and authenticity to items like antiques, rare coins, vintage cars, old books, and even artwork, a record may still increase in value despite having some minor blemishes. Definitely consider condition, yes, but I feel far too many people place way too much importance on condition grading alone and fail to look at the total picture when shopping for vintage records. Condition is NOT everything!
Hello thanks for your thoughtful reply a lot good insight there When it comes to selling records on the Internet photographs don't tell the whole truth about the vinyl surface that has to be inspected under bright light and prices for records are Determined by Supply and demand if you have a record with a high demand it will fetch a higher price and the higher the quality the higher price. As well if you have a record with no demand regardless of its grade it still has little value. People that have been collecting records for many years seek out very rare items of very high quality they are very fussy And eBay policy requires truth in advertising As I discussed in the video thanks again for your watching and glad you enjoyed the video when buying records online many folks have Purchased over rated and graded items from online sellers and value sellers who are trustworthy
I feel like your grading holds a very unprecedentedly high standard. Especially in today's market, Japanese pressings in the US are hard to find, or ridiculously expensive. Vinyl is also hard to keep "without hairline scratches." The material itself is a very fragile surface, and small dust particles cause hairline scratches. I have a fairly high quality setup, and hairline scratches make no noise, or surface noise for me. Especially when played back. Im picky about my conditions too, but I feel like this is just anal at this point. Some people don't know how to grade records, which is understandable. I just feel like this grading scale should have a bit more leniency. Each record I've sold on discogs, has had a positive review and they say it looks very clean.
A lot of those hairlines are from the different types of sleeves as well.
I wish my local record store was like you. I just spent $35 on an old Alice Coltrane today and it has those pops on SideB from a scratch. Plus surface noise. And I know if I tried to return it I'd have an argument on my hands.
I too incorporate an Exc grade between NM (which I hardly use) and VG+. I also don’t list anything under VG+, unless it’s rare. I grade the cover, lp and sleeve separately.
Hi Ron, could you give an example of the different types of surface noise there could be in second hand records? I would like to hear the difference between surface that overpowers the music and not
I always come back to your video when selling and grading records that excellent to mint, and your right a lot of brand new records still shrink wrapped, may already be scratched. I purchased a brand spanking new record in the beginning of this year from the UK, and I was surprised to find three hairline scratches on the record after I opened it. I still kept the record, but I let the seller know about it.
erick medeiros yes I purchased a new 2lp 45 rpm 50 dollar record comes with many hair lines I think it must be a new vinyl formulation its not as resilient as the older vinyl. and more care is needed at the pressing plants to insure quality
Now for grading used records near mint could be 2 or 3 small very lite hair lines that you can only see under very bright light for ex+ around 5 per side but you can tell is the record neat mint ok or does it just miss near mint by a bit like you say we are now getting ex+ as new records and it will never be a near mint even new so some discretion is needed
hi ron found this very interesting to watch thanx for the post
Can you even get mint vinyl when you buy new anymore? Pretty much all the stuff I've bought recently seems to be VG+ straight from the factory
What are spindle hole marks? I think that is what you called them...Thanks.
Wade Kutella that is when their are marks around the spindle hole of the record on its label. Caused by the spindle from the turntable. So better aim is needed to avoid this. Accurate grading will note this blemish.
Now THAT is a SERIOUS turntable! What did that COST???
Great video! I wish more dealers would play their records through before giving them just a visual grade. I've even run into some where a visual grade couldn't pick up the scratches because the record was so dirty and they claimed it was unplayed. I'm glad I'm not the only picky one. I've had some bad experiences from discogs. Not too many from eBay but at least there is some protection there.
I am curious. I figure you'd return a record if it was new and the pressing was bad ? And was noisy with clicks and or loud pops ?
yes i just returned a new records a couple a weeks back bad pressing would not track first song on both sides weird never had that problem before.
now noisy with clicks and or loud pops ? I purchased the new pink folyd record new played it heard pop pop what the heck little pieces of paper off the inner sleeve stuck to the record after cleaning played fine. but lots a new records come with a very few lite hairlines per side they are not pristine but them a lot are
Hi Ron, I can't stress enough how much I enjoy your videos! Very workman-like ,yet enjoyable,EDUCATIONAL!! and fun! I would assume that you clean any preowned vinyl that you purchase but ( let me guess but I think I know the answer) do you also clean brand new ,sealed albums before you play them?( my guess is "yes",? natch).Be safe and good health to you sir!
Hello Michael yes I can't stress enough how much I enjoyed your comments thank you so much.
Yes I always clean my pre own vinyl but lately I haven't been cleaning my new records because I usually do it in like batches and I haven't got around to it lately but it's on the list. I need to get some more inner Sleeves I wanna buy a large pack of quality Records inner sleeves thanks for your most welcome comments and thanks for watching glad you enjoyed the videos
Thanks for that. Very helpful. However I still find the problematic area where there are visible lines - then you have to play it. And many sellers, particularly those who have 1000+ listings are simply not going to play it. Even the large used record stores are not going to play it and its considered acceptable in that venue for it to be somewhat of a dice throw for the buyer. But the Ebay seller has a bit of a quandary on their hands because of the unique nature of that marketplace (i.e. feedback- which is a stringent, walk on thin ice standard that I suggest no commercial corporation could survive). You want to give good service, yet the nature of the marketplace is not going to allow you to do it and remain profitable - not if you want to do more than casual selling and not if you want to work for more than minimum wage - when you factor in photos, description, packing, etc. And supposedly a buyer is looking for the non-casual seller.
yep your right, selling about anything you collect on ebay is a lot of work, like you say
" when you factor in photos, description, packing, etc.":
it takes a lot of time to do all that stuff, and do it properly. Then if you don't have that really rare item in NM condition you are not making much money. BUT for most folks like me who live in a smaller town where else can you sell your records? So when I no longer want to keep a record or I buy a upgraded record for my collection, I do have an outlet for the items I no longer need, which is great, and you don't have to take someone's opinion of what it's value is (when you trade records at a record shop) you can check on ebay and see what the market place values your item at.
Thanks for these tips, I'm helping my Grandfather sell his 45s online and I am just scouting eBay for prices etc. but correctly grading them is something i'm keen on doing as well of course. Would you say that "grading" the state of the cover sleeve is just as important to a buyer? and does not having the original cover lower the price much? in most cases they are complete and NM but I noticed some I am wanting to sell for him have no cover for example.
thanks
everything matters to collectors everything must be in near mint condition to command top price you are on the right track scouting eBay for prices etc.
.that's the best advice I have as well The ones that have no outer sleeve you will need to purchase a generic one to sell it and also for shipping ww.sleevecityusa.com/7-inch-die-cut-white-jacket-for-45s-p/3jac7in.htm
Thank you, much appreciated.
You can buy used vinyl that looks mint but can have fine dirt in the grooves. I prefer to sell CDs because you can grade by looking at them. U can only grade vinyl by playing it.
well explained and helpful, thanks!
Very nice video, you did a great job explaining vinyl grading from Mint to Excellent, but it really didn't help me much. I completely understand and get vinyl grading from the Mint to Excellent standpoint. It get's tricky however when you go down to the VG+ VG G+ G levels. you may not buy or sell those records but a lot of other people do. I sell records on eBay, and I'm currently trying to list a first pressing of King Crimson's classic debut, but I'm at a standstill with the grading on this paticular record. There's a little bit of light surface scratches but the record sounds really really good.
Erick Medeiros hello the grade is an opinion at best just try to explain what the defects are and how the record plays thats what folks want to know, thanks for watching
Good video. I DJ so many of my records are worn but in playable condition (mostly the ones that i use to play in clubs and shows all the time). It kind of reminds me of comic books in which once the comic book is open, it losses its value. You also have to account if the record is warped or not.
Other markings( grading ) on vinyl, what do they mean ? Example : pp1041--A1---p-33-a etc. Hard for me to see. I'm new at this. Thnks
make a new video about How to grade covers and sleeves please
You are a great man! I will buy records from you. All day long. Is there anyway i can get a list to order from you.
Great video Ron. I personally like the way you grade your records. I would definitely feel comfortable purchasing albums off you, at least it would be as graded or better and not the other way. There is a lot of poorly graded records on EBay for sure. I'm just getting back into it and loving it! Oh by the way, I'd buy your box of unsellable any day!
+audiefied Thanks Bro if you look down in the comments Dr. Dead Wax has all ready purchased them I also have given a lot a non sellable records to my Kids friends
Hi Ron, I know youmake a lot of on line purchases do I was wondering who youmight recommend to purchase a copy of " Share the land" by the Guess Who, Amazon only has 3rd party sellers and I'm looking for new or mint! Thanks alan
Alan LaFromboise Try Discogs?
My parents gave me their record collection to sell.
I sold allot of the pristine ones on eBay in the beginning. But then again I had allot with scratches that you would call junk. That I didn't want to sell.
A collectable shop in town told me that heavily scratched records are still worth allot to some people.
Then I sold a heavily scratched howling wolf record for $150
I think if the record is real common they will expect nothing less than pristine but the more rare the more acceptable defects are.
Heck you could have the album without a record and still sell that if someone needs it.
I've sold 50 records on the bay and have only had one problem but I am constantly refining my methods for 110% satisfaction
You are right, after reading this i have now started selling a few records I call ex condition and tell folks DISC: OK now for those folks that don't need a near mint pristine playing surface I have a few records that I bought out of Japan that were over graded by the seller, and instead of sending them back I am selling them at below cost.
THE LP IS in EXCELLENT to EX- CONDITION, there are some, minor, lite hairlines, that you can only see under very bright, direct light, that 99% do not sound,
Disc plays NEAR MINT, may have the odd dust crackle, in normal lighting LP looks near mint! A really nice record that would make a wonderful play copy!
I usually sell them for around 10 bucks or maybe they bid it up a little more but hey its better than laying up against the wall thanks for you help Bro you Rock!!
Nicely done. How much for the box of LPs off to the side you don't want to sell? :)
how about 1 dollar per record you pay the shipping
sold, shoot me your email address via PM and we can take it from there.
last comment - what about warps? I don't know the terms, but I've seen warps over the entire record diameter (like a pringle) and others just near the outer edge. Does it ruin a grade if it does not cause the needle to jump?
any kind of a warp for me is junk I don't sell those records.
its a deal breaker for most buyers but if you have a very very small warp where the arm goes up and down so very slightly this could be sellable just be careful if you try to sell warped records many consider these records junk just like a scratched record or one that skips
I have a large collection I bought of Opera records usually they are 2-4 records in a box. Most seem like near mint condition but you never know for sure. It would take me forever to listen to them all the way thru so I could rate the condition. I plan to sell these on ebay. What should I do?
Jeff Schotland watch this video you don't have to listen to them all just inspect them under direct bright light. if they are dusty you may also want to clean them
Ron Beaudry What I was really worried about is surface noise from being played on a cheap turntable and not so much scratches that you can actually see.
well if they look near mint "they look new under bright direct light" then they were not played enough to wear off any of the new, and should play new.
At this point any noise will come from static and or dust
I encounter marks sometimes that would not be described as scratches nor scuffs - In a particular case for example, a record has what looks like a line of dashes along the groove path - (looks like the dashed line on a road) . Any suggestions for what to call that? there are no audible effects. Thanks
its best to describe all defects as you see them other wise buyer has an out for item not as described thats why I sell really nice records with minor defects but some times for records that play great but look not so good tell you customer that for folks that don't need perfect looking records something like that
good luck and thanks for watching
J Blair I usually say it has minor scuffs from just pulling the record in and out of its sleeve. Not audible.
May I ask your opinion? A copy of Yes 90125 recently sold on Ebay for over $100. It was a promo and the seller put this in the listing information - "THE RECORD HAS 'MASTERDISK' STAMP IN THE TRAIL-OFF VINYL (DEAD WAX) AREA, WHICH IS GENERALLY CONSIDERED A PROOF OF AUTHENTICITY OF THE FIRST PRESSING."
Is that a true statement as far as you know? thanks
well I am far from an expert but I have never seen that "masterdisk" stamped on anything before I have a number of Japanese promos at this time for sale on ebay and I will do some more research when I get home, But If someone is willing to pay 100 bucks for a 90125 promo I guess they know what they are buying. Records do have different Catalog Numbers on the cover and record label this is how to tell a first edition but a first press is different again, you could always check popsike.com or other online sites with specific information. generally a promo is from the first pressing of a Catalog Number if you have a first edition promo it stands to reason it is almost a very first press and that is why its so rare
thanks - if you are interested, the ebay item # is 161147822814
When would you call a record VG+ or VG? There seem to be buyers who are willing to buy those grades - perhaps because they want a good playable copy and don't want to put wear on their better copy? For instance, I see titles like Dark Side of the Moon, the Wall, Houses, etc. even selling at good+. Or perhaps they don't know what good+ means.
Well here is the problem with different standards one persons EX may be another persons VG+ and so on As I said in the video it doesn't matter what you call the grade you still have to list every defect to be safe when you sell records that are not near mint. If the record has 100 lite hair lines then you need to explain that in your listing. How does it play, noisy lots of clicks pops, dust crackles, does it play as quiet as a NM record. some peoples turntables are noisy some play less noisy. .
This whole idea of a grade be it EX or VG meaning something you can say I know what the record is going to look like is wrong. its all someones opinion. if you say the record is what ever grade and say it has a few lite hair lines then when the buyer gets it and he claims it has many scratches well he then gets his money back. just describe the condition as accurately as possible that's why I don't sell any thing that is not very close to NM grade. its not worth the risk and hassle to me and I wish to be know as a seller that sell nice records period. but I know what you mean some very rare records that sell for big bucks in NM condition someone may still be willing to buy a copy that has some defects for considerably less money.
Ron Beaudry in terms of playing it safe, one option I have experimented with is offering free returns. That way, if the buyer is unhappy with the record they know they can send it back without a loss and less likely to be upset.
SuperJV4x of course you have to have a return policy and even if you don't if the buyer makes a claim that the item is not as described they get their money back anyway
point is you don't want returns as a seller and buyers don't want drama from sellers just follow my advice and describe as best as you can you will have no problems
records that sell are the hard to find ones in near mint condition, super mega rare records in EX condition (who has these type records?) audiophile type records in near mint condition and sealed records. just the run of the mill records in average condition are a dime a dozen and people go to thrift stores and flea markets garage sales for that type product.
There are millions of records on ebay and folks on ebay are cheap looking for the best deal and they buy price. Unless you have some records in high demand and no supply its hard to get big money for records. good luck Ron
Ron Beaudry ebay is a great place to sell records out of your collection that you no longer want if you have a product someone else wants.
As long as the 'imperfections' do not effect play you can grade it as EX. The problem is Mint / Near Mint unplayed records can sound terrible and those that look VG, lots of scratches, even feelable ones, can sound great. If over $10 a seller should play the disc before selling.
Captain Beyond hologram on display....nice.
thanks love that record
yep! that was a one off record there... love it!
NM means no visible mars, scratches, crackling audio. To Me that would be a VG+ with stated defects.
I was asked how I grade records this is how I do it. and from the vast majority of good sellers on eBay this is how they do it. your mileage may vary
does first pressing and original pressing mean the same thing?
No a first pressing is a pressing from the first Stampers used lot of times it will be 1 a and 1 b the first Stamper with side a and the first Stamper with side B records pressed during the same time period May have 3A 4B 7A 5B anything that was from the original pressing year would being original pressing the very first records made as a first pressings that's one reason that promos are collectible because they are always from the first pressing but the first issue original issues they usually all sound very close these pressings will always sound better than records made later
yes
I find it hard to believe you can find a used record without a hairline scratch when your talking 20 or 30 year old records. I buy many records and don't mind a little click or pop . That to me is the beauty of vinyl . Other wise I would just stick to CDs witch by the way I don't play.
well i find them all the time Japanese vinyl is more resilient. I get Japan 40 year old records that are pristine, not a lot mind you but i still get some like that many others only have 2 or 3 tiny hairlines that you can only see under very bright direct light these i call near mint but hay new records and the vinyl they use today they come sealed with some small hairlines really hard to get pristine new vinyl.today thank for your much valued comments
I purchased a Bob Dylan Greatest Hits first press from 1967 on EBay without a single paper scuff,scratch or spindle mark.The album cover was pristine and it also included the original Milton Glaser poster also in like new shape.Believe it or not a lot of people take very good care of their albums, got it for 25 dollars and the seller description was accurate. Near mint albums are surely out there
I have a concern about visually grading records - I've looked at records in bright light and the vinyl is clean. Then play it and there is significant surface noise. Do you have any insights on that? Problem is, I have so many records to sell, I can't play them all to check. But there is a fear that someone is going to leave negative feedback as in the case I described. Some people will even leave negative fbdk with a free return policy. Any advice appreciated.
checking for hairline scratches under the bright light is key. however yes I have got records that looked near mint but had a lot of surface noise from embedded dirt. this is usually from wet cleaning done improperly and now the dirt is deep in the Groove. I have a few videos about cleaning records you might want to check them out.
I use the spin clean and the record doctor V thanks for watching glad you're enjoying the videos
J Blair that's probably static noise your hearing more than anything.
What is the name of your Ebay store?
Sorry I'm not doing Ebay nowadays
What would you rate a record with say 2 hairline scuffs on each side but one of those scuffs ran almost from the outside all the way to the label? its totally inaudible and has no other markings. It an album from 1982 by the way,
well maybe more like EX if the record looks nm in normal light and only has 2 hairline scratches so fine they do not sound but one is long well maybe ex+ its the scuff that through me off usually a scuff is a rub of some kind and has multiple lines running the same direction still ex the whole idea is you just identify all the defects for EX+ I just usually say has a few lite hairlines that you can only see under very bright direct light that do not sound record still plays Near Mint
coolio, i bought a copy of Duran Duran's RIO album like this and it was rated EX.
heres the deal the rating is arbitrary what I want to know when I purchase a record is what defects are on the record to contribute to said grade thanks for your most welcome comments cheers Ron
not sure if I've ever seen a record that was mint in my 27 yrs of dealing with vinyl though I'm sure it exists. I've bought brand new albums (years ago) and after opening and playing them they skipped. Some light skips can be fixed by gently pressing down on the needle and cutting through the skip but it still leaves an audible pop, it won't skip anymore but will still make a noise which can be annoying to some people for obvious reasons. Anything that has audible crackles or pops but plays ok I'd sell as fair for 99 cents as-is online and 50 cents privately. Some people will buy the record no matter what it sounds like if they're just after the album art-I used to frequent vinyl stores in Greenwich Village that would up the price of a crappy record if the album cover was by a famous artist because they knew it would sell regardless of how many skips were on the record.
what you're calling I a mint record I would call that pristine and I have seen quite a few of them. I purchased my records from Japan that's where I buy most of my records for resale most of them that I sell are what you would call a near-mint not pristine but have just a very very few minor hairlines as I described in the video. I was asked how I grade records this is how I do it your mileage may vary thank you for watching the video
You really do not know if a record is mint condition unless you play every single second of it. It can look mint, but if it has even one pop, it is not mint. I think excellent condition is safe to say. In the end, grading records is subjective.
near mint records are going to have a couple of little static noises very light things every record does there's no record plays perfect that's why they are near mint not perfect mint
I'm so glad my CD collection is not going to be thoroughly graded.
+thebrosmartin people don't want scratched cd's either they will skip worse than and record
CDs have suffered the same consequences as a badly scratched up record they won't play correctly either
I buy used, scratched up, non-playing CDs for literally pennies on the dollar and use a headlight restoration kit to bring them back to life and resell them... I can't make money off fools like that with records.
What's your eBay account name because I would like to buy some records.
rockenroni
Thank you.
very good :) ....
Um dust in the micro grooves causes noise. Not a perfect medium.
Nothing's perfect records just sound better and when they're clean there's no noise
I hate eBay now , there are so many chancers, more than before, people buying from Charity shops, boot sales or whatever and then saying the record is near mint (sic) ex or vg, when you get the record they are no more than fair/good.
I have now taken back about 50% of my records in the last 3 months, I am seriously considering pulling out of eBay and buying from my local record shop where I can see the cover and record.
I also find with eBay, is that a lot of pictures hide the absolute truth, e.g pictures of covers , but not the whole picture only part of it and then the record is sent with bumps on the edges covers.
Over grading the vinyl is the major issue , I have had a lot of sellers refunding and not even wanting the record back as they have to pay for postage to have their junk back!
Wow, you're a true piece of shit!! You just do that to keep free records. It's people like you that are killing it for everyone. I understand if the record condition is totally off from what they stated, but if they state there's scratches, you should expect a record with scratches. If they state the record is in NM, you should still expect scratches, it's Ebay you clown! No one is a professional record appraiser there. It's just regular Joe's trying to make a few dollars to feed themselves and their families.
gradeing is a shame these days .. a guy send me the wrong record and askd how we split shipping back to him .. then i finaly got my buffalo springfield .again .. and it was clamed as very good .. i call that piss poor .. but yea dont want to lose even more money .. so i order another one some day ..
i with you would sell them for less instead of just not selling it
What is your ebay user name Ron. You can pm it to me if you want. Thanks.
rockenroni of course thanks for asking
All people have to do is read my guidelines to grading records. It was written in 1996 and I specifically wrote for people who buy and sell on Ebay. You can find my guide at this website in both English and Japanese.
www.lptown.com/html/goldmine.html
Breakfast In America?
Correct you are sir
Personally id say a few tiny scratches is still Near Mint,but quite liberal with ratings
Sealed/Not sealed but never has been touched = Mint
Only tiny hairscratches,dont affect sound = NM
A few deeper scratches,only affect sound in quiet parts = VG
Anything below = Good
Literal Garbage = Fair(what even is the point of a rating below Good,its literally worth only cents at this point)
Considering Covers:
No Flaws = Mint
A few flaws,only noticable up close,dont break up cover = NM
A few small flaws that break up the cover = VG
Alot of noticable marks,but still a consistent piece of paper = Good
"Did someone pee on this?" = Fair
IMPORTANT:NEVER USE + OR - RATINGS,They DO NOTHING BUT MAKE THE RATING SCALE USELESS
Id advice against only buying near mint,if its cheap nm,get it,but with rarities id advice getting VG so its still affordable
Record get scratch easily I hate that 😁👍😎
seymour
Opened vinyl records should never be graded as 'mint' ('M') anyway. ( as shouldn't ANY 78 record, obviously)
However, 'Buyer protection' shouldn't be construed as 'seller punishment' either. Think before you buy! Why not ask sellers for extra photos and in direct sunlight?
I would not plop down my hard earned money on an opened record, that was graded as 'M'. It's logically quite antithetical. In other words it is a no brainer to not expect to see a MINT record come out of an opened jacket even if it is graded as such. ..and for that matter, get over yourself, no need getting your panties in a wad because you expected something so fantastical to land in your hands! -been there done that. A collection made up of records unexamined by you in person doesn't deserve your 'pickiness' attitude! It's eBay for crying out loud, not Sotheby's!
first of all I was asked how do I grade records.
so I explained how I do it.
if you buy a record for me and I say it's near mint and you hold it up to a bright light and examine it you will see it's almost perfect and it will play near mint that's how I do It. agreed you will get a lot of poorly graded records from eBay but that's not how I do it.
Exactly, well said. It's Ebay, it's a bunch of regular Joe's trying to make a buck to feed themselves and their families, and this dork is trying to take a meal out of the mouth of a child or some poor hard working Joe, because he's a spoiled mama's boy who needs to listen to his records after working at his rich daddie's lawyer firm. I bet he's the type to leave negative feedback and start a claim to not pay.
It does not worth it. Reissues and dropping world economy killed vinyl record market. I can only sell record for half price, which I paid 10 years ago. Also stupid eBay hide your listings as well.
no such thing as mint mate
Yes those near meant and then there is pristine and I have seen some but only Japan records because of their JVC super vinyl is resilient and you can't find a scratch, hairline or blemish under bright light with only a few I've seen like that And I have sold them the description was Pristine and nobody complained they agreed Slight yeah for your average USA pressing there's always going to be something wrong like I said I now days you buy new records they come with scratches and hairlines on them in the shrink
You sir I find way over the edge here. 20 or 30 even 40 years old records you will not find a perfect even sealed that wont have a scratch . I would not deal with you as your prices would be way to high and then by your standards I would HAVE to return to you becouse the label wasn't clean . Wasted my time .
Most of my record collection I would say is near men that's the way I like and I get a lot of Records out of Japan of course Japan super vinyl is more resilient and it's easy to find near mint even pristine 30-40 year old records I did sell a lot of Records on eBay and I did sell some VG stuff But I described all the defects.
if you remember in the video I did say brand new records it's hard to get near mint records nowdays because they come with a lot of hairline scratches brand new.
Seling on ebay is a bad idea ebay is the fly market on line
ok rookie where do you sell your records and buy your japanese original records
because I have sold hundreds of records on ebay I live in a small town in georgia where do I go to get top dollar for rare records also I think you live in a country that no one on ebay will ship to lol
You must be an informed buyer,look at seller ratings ,study the photos of the item,look at what the seller has for sale,if records aren't what they mainly sale you might want to move on.I personally have great experiences with EBay, but I do my homework. Would appreciate a seller with your knowledge.