If it’s the same as the regular SCAR 17S, this will shoot both .308 & 7.62 Nato. I run both cartridges through my standard SCAR 17S all the time with no issues
@@lucasdenis8378 There is the mk17 and/or scar-h which is the military designation for the scar that’s chambered in 7.62x51, and the scar 17s which is just the civilian designation for the scar that is chambered in 7.62x51. Its the same rifle, essentially, with the military version being select fire and with some different parts, etc.
@@lucasdenis8378 Lucas, the military SCAR17 is a selective fire rifle (ie can shoot full auto), while the SCAR17S is the civilian version, which can shoot only semi-auto (ie one shot per trigger pull). Apart from that they are identical.
The old ones are not compatible as they are a different design. The good news is that only one is required and it can be either one on either side. Keeping in mind that they don't reciprocate so you don't have to worry about getting hit, you can decide how you want to configure it.
When will someone do a review and field strip the gun? I want to see how the NRCH works. I’ve seen every video on the new scar and they are all the same.
Not that different actually, the CHs are riding on a CH slide instead of the carrier. That's the only extra piece. Basically the CH slide has a hook, that is either hooked onto the receiver (nrch) OR hooked onto the carrier (when charging or forward assist). Letting go of the CH when charging will make the CH slide unlock from the carrier and onto the receiver by momentum. So a side note, the claim by FN of lower carrier mass is true. But only by a little, mainly from the slots for the CH slide logs to ride or pushing upon when charging. And the width reduced from having a CH slide warping around the front slotted portion. Hope this helps a little, you can always reference their manual.
When I first heard about NRCH SCAR, I thought they might have used a longer piston, and shortened the carrier significantly while while using a CH slide. But my initial hypothesis was wrong, I guess messing with the action too much can result in significant reengineering and reevaluation of the platform. ($$$$$) So it make sense they used a solution with least amount of change and maximized the chance of keeping the reliability.
3:40 Here's a general question for experienced shooters and military types. I've never been in action ( I was in Comms - behind the lines, as it were, in the Navy) but one thing has often bothered me watching many of these videos. They depict such rifles with lights on them, and the user entering, say, a dark building, after the target, with his gun light on and pointing where his rifle points. What is the purpose of this? Surely all you're doing is showing the target exactly where YOU are, and not where HE/SHE is? By the time you've found the target with the light he/she has got you nailed! Thanks.
@@chltmdwp I get that, but that ONLY applies IF the other person knows where you are! The chances of him shining on you first time out (if you are the defender) is minimal. The instant he switches his light on, you know where he is, while he still has to find out where you are. This gives you a huge advantage. When you are assaulting, then it's slightly different, provided you have a good idea where the defender actually is. Is this not why Spec Ops operatives usually toss a flashbang in first to disorient the defenders somewhat? I'm not putting myself up as an expert, I'm just trying to use logic and to understand better. Thanks for your comment.
So a lot of confusion here on terminology. The Scar 17s and the Scar Mk17 are the exact same Battle rifle with the same bolts except the mk17 allows full auto when requested. Everything else is the same. As for rounds, NO. .308 and 7.62x51 NATO are not the same round. They are extremely similar in size but have difference in pressure in the cartridge. Can you fire .308 in a Scar17S without damaging the Bolt? Yes. Whenever you see a Gun say “multi caliber” it doesn’t mean you can shoot 5.56 and 7.62, it means you can shoot a military round or it’s civilian equivalent. That’s because the bolt assembly can handle the higher pressure of the civilian variant. So Yes, you can shoot .308 no problem in a Scar17S or a Scar Mk17. By the way, you cannot shoot .223 in Guns that shoot only 5.56. If you do, you may crack the bolt. Unless you replace the BCG or you make sure the rifle says “multi caliber” Examples would be Daniel Defense Mk18 will shoot .223 or 5.56. Lastly, the gas block actually isn’t used for any suppressor. FN will void your warranty if you use one and adjust your gas block. FN states the gas block is actually used to better handle in inclimate weather. Bonus: it’s not an AR, it’s a FN Scar. AR doesn’t stand for Assault Rifle and if that’s what was meant, the Scar 17s and Scar Mk17 is a battle rifle. Assault Rifle: Shoots round like .223, 5.56, 300 Blackout Battle Rifle: Semi-Auto to Auto rifle that shoots machine gun rounds such as .308 or 7.62x51, etc. Machine Gun: belt fed rounds with full auto mode Sub-machine gun: automatic rifle that shoots pistol or handgun rounds like 9mm, .45, etc.
@@calholli value is in the wallet of the beholder. I have two 17's. One is an SBR, and I'm waiting on my 20-inch barrel for the other one. Plug and play...Keeping it real with OE FN products; unlike Dodge; they just killed the hemi for a turbo charged 6 banger...bahhh. At least it's not electric.
I wonder if having a reciprocating charging handle was done purposely to aid in reliability. Also if this NRCH versions reliability is affected because of this change.
One less thing for the criers to cry about. They will never stop crying about the price though. If anyone is looking for the FN 13-inch barrel, Optics Planet still has 5 left as of this writing. $1149.07
I knew I can find some sour comment about the price, even there's only 20 comments as I'm typing. I'm not disappointed. It's a free market after all, the stabilized price will reflect how much it's truly worthy of. Is it expensive? Of course, but I enjoy it so much, such great performance in a iconic modern platform. Waiting on CZ Bren2 BR and Sig MCX Spear.
@Frank Deckard He just said that this simple conversion to a non-reciprocating charging handle is over $2k.. that's just insulting and obscene. lol.. The HK416 is just as bad-- I've seen their uppers ALONE marked for $2400. smh. They are all copies of the AR18/AR180 rifle's gas system, yet they are extraordinarily expensive as if it's proprietary.. and still the Brn180 and WOLF uppers are so much cheaper, being virtually the same thing. other copies are the ACR, XCR, Bren2, 416, G36, BRN180, Scar 16, Sig 516, ect. ect. they all use the same gas system. Granted the Scar heavy is in 7.62, so there's a little premium there; but geezz.. There's just no justifying that much waste for something that is just like all the others.
@Frank Deckard There are several of them marked for $3600 on gunbroker (plus they have to pay $50 shipping and also a 12% tax). I'm sure you could sell it fairly easy; probably be easier on Arm'slist though.
I don’t know what is is about this channel I just dig the vibe here. Laid back, informal and fun reviews. Thanks!
You did the vibe? --- I thought it was Hammer Striker who did it...
huh, good to know.
Just picked mine up in all black. Its been a wishlist gun for awhile. Now that theyre NRCH I went ahead and bought one.
Just ordered one of these, so glad I waited!
Just one?
just bought a sig virtus pistol for my home Defense setup and one Of the features I liked is you can fold the brace and still shoot it.
If it’s the same as the regular SCAR 17S, this will shoot both .308 & 7.62 Nato. I run both cartridges through my standard SCAR 17S all the time with no issues
What’s the difference between a mk17 and mk17s
@@lucasdenis8378 do you mean a mk17 & a scar17s?
@@ChokolateSushi23 we’ll a scar mk17 and scar mk17s because I’ve seen both but I’m not sure what the actual difference is
@@lucasdenis8378 There is the mk17 and/or scar-h which is the military designation for the scar that’s chambered in 7.62x51, and the scar 17s which is just the civilian designation for the scar that is chambered in 7.62x51. Its the same rifle, essentially, with the military version being select fire and with some different parts, etc.
@@lucasdenis8378 Lucas, the military SCAR17 is a selective fire rifle (ie can shoot full auto), while the SCAR17S is the civilian version, which can shoot only semi-auto (ie one shot per trigger pull). Apart from that they are identical.
I am not a fan of the charging handle sticking out of both sides. Would the original one sided charging handle be compatible with the NRCH?
The old ones are not compatible as they are a different design. The good news is that only one is required and it can be either one on either side. Keeping in mind that they don't reciprocate so you don't have to worry about getting hit, you can decide how you want to configure it.
When will someone do a review and field strip the gun? I want to see how the NRCH works. I’ve seen every video on the new scar and they are all the same.
Not that different actually, the CHs are riding on a CH slide instead of the carrier. That's the only extra piece.
Basically the CH slide has a hook, that is either hooked onto the receiver (nrch) OR hooked onto the carrier (when charging or forward assist).
Letting go of the CH when charging will make the CH slide unlock from the carrier and onto the receiver by momentum.
So a side note, the claim by FN of lower carrier mass is true. But only by a little, mainly from the slots for the CH slide logs to ride or pushing upon when charging. And the width reduced from having a CH slide warping around the front slotted portion.
Hope this helps a little, you can always reference their manual.
When I first heard about NRCH SCAR, I thought they might have used a longer piston, and shortened the carrier significantly while while using a CH slide.
But my initial hypothesis was wrong, I guess messing with the action too much can result in significant reengineering and reevaluation of the platform. ($$$$$)
So it make sense they used a solution with least amount of change and maximized the chance of keeping the reliability.
@@JohnZ556 Thanks, I’m the guy that gets the gun home and field strips it. I just like seeing how it works compared to my old scar 17.
Mac did one a few days ago
3:40 Here's a general question for experienced shooters and military types. I've never been in action ( I was in Comms - behind the lines, as it were, in the Navy) but one thing has often bothered me watching many of these videos. They depict such rifles with lights on them, and the user entering, say, a dark building, after the target, with his gun light on and pointing where his rifle points. What is the purpose of this? Surely all you're doing is showing the target exactly where YOU are, and not where HE/SHE is? By the time you've found the target with the light he/she has got you nailed! Thanks.
Have you ever been flashed by flashlights? They are bright and make your head turn away instinctively.
@@chltmdwp I get that, but that ONLY applies IF the other person knows where you are! The chances of him shining on you first time out (if you are the defender) is minimal. The instant he switches his light on, you know where he is, while he still has to find out where you are. This gives you a huge advantage. When you are assaulting, then it's slightly different, provided you have a good idea where the defender actually is. Is this not why Spec Ops operatives usually toss a flashbang in first to disorient the defenders somewhat? I'm not putting myself up as an expert, I'm just trying to use logic and to understand better. Thanks for your comment.
So a lot of confusion here on terminology. The Scar 17s and the Scar Mk17 are the exact same Battle rifle with the same bolts except the mk17 allows full auto when requested. Everything else is the same.
As for rounds, NO. .308 and 7.62x51 NATO are not the same round. They are extremely similar in size but have difference in pressure in the cartridge.
Can you fire .308 in a Scar17S without damaging the Bolt? Yes. Whenever you see a Gun say “multi caliber” it doesn’t mean you can shoot 5.56 and 7.62, it means you can shoot a military round or it’s civilian equivalent. That’s because the bolt assembly can handle the higher pressure of the civilian variant.
So Yes, you can shoot .308 no problem in a Scar17S or a Scar Mk17.
By the way, you cannot shoot .223 in Guns that shoot only 5.56. If you do, you may crack the bolt. Unless you replace the BCG or you make sure the rifle says “multi caliber”
Examples would be Daniel Defense Mk18 will shoot .223 or 5.56.
Lastly, the gas block actually isn’t used for any suppressor. FN will void your warranty if you use one and adjust your gas block. FN states the gas block is actually used to better handle in inclimate weather.
Bonus: it’s not an AR, it’s a FN Scar. AR doesn’t stand for Assault Rifle and if that’s what was meant, the Scar 17s and Scar Mk17 is a battle rifle.
Assault Rifle: Shoots round like .223, 5.56, 300 Blackout
Battle Rifle: Semi-Auto to Auto rifle that shoots machine gun rounds such as .308 or 7.62x51, etc.
Machine Gun: belt fed rounds with full auto mode
Sub-machine gun: automatic rifle that shoots pistol or handgun rounds like 9mm, .45, etc.
Finally, we got the thing everyone wants for the thing most of dont own or wont own because "reasons" Nice vid and great armsfire.
"reasons" like logical value assessment getting in the way. lol.. It would be a great rifle for $850
@@calholli value is in the wallet of the beholder. I have two 17's. One is an SBR, and I'm waiting on my 20-inch barrel for the other one. Plug and play...Keeping it real with OE FN products; unlike Dodge; they just killed the hemi for a turbo charged 6 banger...bahhh. At least it's not electric.
@@John-zs2eo I got a scar 17s and a scar 20 for those purposes.
So the only change is the NRCH?
And details on the new part??
The Scar-17 is the closest analog to the classic battle rifle.
Ummm .... The SCAR17 IS the classic battle rifle! SOCOM says so, and bought them for Spec Ops. ;-)
Thanks for the video. Does this new model have a mil spec barrel and hard chromed bore it doesn't say it does on the FN website?
Cold hammer forged with chrome lining.
I wonder if having a reciprocating charging handle was done purposely to aid in reliability. Also if this NRCH versions reliability is affected because of this change.
It was done because it was part of the SOCOM requirements for the contract at the time.
7.62X51 and 308 are absolutely interchangeable on all modern rifles. The Internet is full of fuddlore about them not being interchangeable. They are
It's stamped on the upper "SCAR 17S Multi-Caliber"
Newer AR lowers are stamped the same way.
@@John-zs2eo If an AR-15 is stamped with "Multi-Caliber" then it is capable of firing both 5.56 and .223
What county are you in?
One less thing for the criers to cry about. They will never stop crying about the price though. If anyone is looking for the FN 13-inch barrel, Optics Planet still has 5 left as of this writing. $1149.07
Yeah but you have to get the sbr to legally use it or have it.
So did you findout if in fact it can shoot .308?
I did in mine
@@jjspendalot4597 it does shoot .308 safely ?
You live once. For all those saying it's expensive for what it is, they might be right. But oh well I bought mine. I can always sell it.
308 Winchester is fine I shoot it in my scar 20s all the time no problems
Looks like a newer style of gas block switch?
Is he in Spain? ;)
I knew I can find some sour comment about the price, even there's only 20 comments as I'm typing.
I'm not disappointed.
It's a free market after all, the stabilized price will reflect how much it's truly worthy of.
Is it expensive? Of course, but I enjoy it so much, such great performance in a iconic modern platform. Waiting on CZ Bren2 BR and Sig MCX Spear.
$3k at my local Scheels
Step in the right direction.
The action doesn't sound smooth and still $2k over priced.
These should be 600 bucks in a world that didn't have you know who in it.
Who
People don't realize that it likely only costs $600 to actually build these things. I'll never buy one because it's so unbelievably overpriced.
@Frank Deckard He just said that this simple conversion to a non-reciprocating charging handle is over $2k.. that's just insulting and obscene. lol.. The HK416 is just as bad-- I've seen their uppers ALONE marked for $2400. smh. They are all copies of the AR18/AR180 rifle's gas system, yet they are extraordinarily expensive as if it's proprietary.. and still the Brn180 and WOLF uppers are so much cheaper, being virtually the same thing. other copies are the ACR, XCR, Bren2, 416, G36, BRN180, Scar 16, Sig 516, ect. ect. they all use the same gas system. Granted the Scar heavy is in 7.62, so there's a little premium there; but geezz.. There's just no justifying that much waste for something that is just like all the others.
@Frank Deckard There are several of them marked for $3600 on gunbroker (plus they have to pay $50 shipping and also a 12% tax). I'm sure you could sell it fairly easy; probably be easier on Arm'slist though.
I totally agree with you! Way over priced! I'll never purchase one!! 👎
@Frank Deckard how much you selling it for? 16s or 17s? NRCH?
@@MRCORPUZ360 I have a 17s for sale. Comes with or without a Comp M5. $3200 if that is fair?
I don't know why.... I "hate" SCAR guys so much 🙃
prob cant afford one
@@altonkriel maybe you can't.
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Way OVER RATED RIFLE!! "FN" dragged there heals in changing the recipecating charging handle!! Way over priced!!
waaaaa hates BM watches BM youtube complains about bmw's - go cry in your sippy cup
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Poor people shouldn't be watching these videos 😅 I love my 17s 4600$ out the door add my 1.5x6 elcan 2,600$ the cherry on the cake.