🥇 SG 550 (Swiss Army Rifle) to 500yds: Practical Accuracy [Stgw 90 - PE 90]

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    The SG550 (Stgw 90 / FASS 90 / PE 90) is a symbol of the modern Swiss marksman and a societal icon in Switzerland. This rifle has been extensively deployed in all facets of the Swiss military, but is also an extremely popular iron-sight competition rifle, often compared to the American M16A2.
    While the SG550 has a reputation to being fantastically accurate and reliable, due to the cost of these rifles, not much testing has been seen in North America. In this video we also interviewed Mike from Bloke on the Range and Brodie, Swiss Army Infantry Officer on the culture and employment of the SG550 in a military and civilian competition environment.
    How does the 20inches of rifling do on the course? Would the diopter sights help to hinder the performance on a slow-fire KD range?
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  • @9HoleReviews
    @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +206

    If you liked this video, make sure you check out the Forgotten Weapons take on the SG550 here: ua-cam.com/video/vz8YiMPZSZA/v-deo.html

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 2 роки тому

      Could you look into getting your hands on a MPT-76 and a KCR-762 for a range review? They're used by Turkish forces. Would be interested to see that.

    • @0bserver416
      @0bserver416 2 роки тому

      Lexus of AK!

    • @bronxkal9275
      @bronxkal9275 2 роки тому +2

      I just came trough from there

    • @Itsme_glen
      @Itsme_glen 2 роки тому +3

      When is the 50 metre interval targets happening instead of yards? Would work better since the rifle sights use metres.

    • @sking3492
      @sking3492 2 роки тому

      Damn you Henry!! I am soooo jealous of both you and Ian, having the '' tedious '' chore of evaluating weapons all day.... Lol. But seriously, both you and Ian are not only knowledgeable, but easy to listen too and watch your vids. Keep it up 👍👍
      p. s from an ex grunt😜😜

  • @Inazuma68
    @Inazuma68 Рік тому +437

    Cheers from Switzerland. Considering, the rifle was built almost 40 years ago makes me feel a bit proud….

    • @neebell5056
      @neebell5056 Рік тому

      Why would you be proud? Did you built it? Weird shit to be proud of something you didn’t created or achieved yourself.

    • @ferdinandschrott6973
      @ferdinandschrott6973 Рік тому +4

      The basic AR-15 was designed in the mid fifties

    • @seanhdka
      @seanhdka Рік тому +17

      @@ferdinandschrott6973 this is more of an ak style weapon really, so i don't know what you're on about.

    • @redshark7494
      @redshark7494 Рік тому +3

      @@seanhdka How was it said once? the SG550 is the luxery AK, or if the AK was aquart this is what it would be

    • @bachmannmanuel1562
      @bachmannmanuel1562 Рік тому +19

      ja sägs ;-)

  • @ABowlofPho
    @ABowlofPho 2 роки тому +663

    Great video, Henry. Glad to see that one of my loaners has the honor of taking the top spot on the PA scoreboard haha. Loved the commentary afterwards too.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +83

      Thank you Steven!!!!

    • @Robert53area
      @Robert53area 2 роки тому +8

      I love Swiss rifles, how can I get one of these SG, they are not as easy to find where I am.

    • @hopewilliams6705
      @hopewilliams6705 2 роки тому +5

      That's awesome thanks for helping out an amazing channel

    • @beardly0121
      @beardly0121 2 роки тому +1

      I love these rifles. I'm very jealous of you lol.

    • @Don_Valentino
      @Don_Valentino 2 роки тому

      the world is bit more yatta! thanks to this kind sir
      \(^▽^)/

  • @hakimcameldriver
    @hakimcameldriver 2 роки тому +459

    I had a US made Sig556, the trigger was like squeezing a balloon full of non neutonian fluid. Spongy, sloppy, no wall then a gritty break.. the Swiss trigger was like oiled glass.. smooth take up, good wall, clean crisp break.

    • @VorteX_SH
      @VorteX_SH 2 роки тому

      I am never gonna experience it unless I move to USA which is tough to say the least (ಥ_ʖಥ)

    • @hateferlife
      @hateferlife 2 роки тому +34

      I too have a US 556. After I got good on that trigger, having ‘mastered’ the USGI M4 trigger, it’s probably the most accurate {covers SA M1A’s ears} semiauto rifle I’ve got.

    • @moistjohn
      @moistjohn 2 роки тому +12

      I think if sig inc imported them from their brother company sig ag today, they would do a better job, especially if they were just 922r building them.

    • @brianlynch994
      @brianlynch994 2 роки тому +7

      I also have a 556. I love it.

    • @ronrobertson59
      @ronrobertson59 2 роки тому +2

      I agree about the Sig 5.56. I have three AR builds I put together from US GI parts and all three have a much better trigger. My son in law has S&W AR with a great trigger out of the box.

  • @BrassFacts
    @BrassFacts 2 роки тому +360

    damn. I feel guilty about missing at 500y (or even 400) now with full optics setups.
    Good job man

    • @hateferlife
      @hateferlife 2 роки тому +40

      I has theory, you’re not making a correction for Hop’s sarcasm warping the space/time continuum.

    • @ryanpeck3377
      @ryanpeck3377 2 роки тому

      You’re bad and should feel bad 😉

    • @Khan.WrathOf
      @Khan.WrathOf 2 роки тому +47

      Henry has eyesight suitable for peregrine falcon duty. It's ridiculous.

    • @TheNiftyReptile
      @TheNiftyReptile 2 роки тому +4

      What is this, a crossover episode?

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 2 роки тому +17

      I was the designated marksman in our group. I shot 198 to 199 out of 200 at 300m routinely with my H&K G3.... I'm not kidding you when I say that Henry is a phenomenally good shot.

  • @SwissFusilier
    @SwissFusilier 2 роки тому +718

    Thanks to Henry and Josh for having me. It was a great honour and a pleasure to be involved in the making of this great video. I had a great time sharing some of my stories and insights about this little pike.
    I hope I can make it over to the states in near future and meet you guys in person.
    BTW if any of my ramblings were to incoherent and/or anyone has a question, please don`t hesitate to ask me.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +62

      ☝️Brodie from the interview

    • @doejohn8674
      @doejohn8674 2 роки тому +8

      @@9HoleReviews Which twist rate did your 550 have when you shot the course? 1:7 or 1:10? Just curious ;)

    • @LeonardoFSI
      @LeonardoFSI 2 роки тому +12

      @@doejohn8674 1:7 it's said at some point early in the video and can be see in the practical test notes at the very end of the video.

    • @viggenguy4411
      @viggenguy4411 2 роки тому +11

      If you are planning to get to Desert Brutality again this year, I have a newly-rebuilt PE57 you're welcome to use if you want!

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +17

      @@doejohn8674 these new imports are 1:7, the older PE90 are 1:10

  • @christianpatton9364
    @christianpatton9364 2 роки тому +220

    That was an epic run with an iron sighted rifle in 5.56. Quality marksmanship and rifle.

    • @alainpedrielli4839
      @alainpedrielli4839 2 роки тому +3

      the sig 550 is in 5,6 because the ammunition of the swiss army is 5,6 non 5,56

    • @MrMalicious5
      @MrMalicious5 2 роки тому +13

      @@alainpedrielli4839 It's 5.56...

    • @patricklang4458
      @patricklang4458 2 роки тому +6

      @@MrMalicious5 in the swiss army we use ruag 5.6 'GP 90' but chambering in 5.56 is fine as well as you could see

    • @Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte
      @Peter-der-gute-vegane-Hirte 2 роки тому

      @@alainpedrielli4839 5,6 = 5,56

    • @DoppioMalto-qb9ql
      @DoppioMalto-qb9ql Рік тому

      FASS uses:
      RUAG and NATO 5,56×45
      Ramington .223
      FMJ and JHP (illegal)
      By the way it can use bullets from the main 21 size rifles (sar 21, scar FN, M 16, etc) but these cannot use RUAG 5.56×45 shells LOL

  • @subtitles1492
    @subtitles1492 Рік тому +47

    we used to call it „Gummi-Gewehr“ (Rubber Rifle) due to all the plastic parts. After learning on the old and heavy SIG Stgw 57, the Stgw 90 was so much easier to carry around, more precise and easier to maintain.
    thanks for the video!🇨🇭

  • @matthayward7889
    @matthayward7889 2 роки тому +296

    A tribute to Henry’s skill, and the accuracy of the rifle is that it looked like he was barely trying.

    • @andr3i68
      @andr3i68 Рік тому +8

      This rifle was tailored for Henry! Great rifle and great rifleman! Notice that he stacked the last shots on top of each other!

    • @dieserkanalexistiertnichtm2204
      @dieserkanalexistiertnichtm2204 11 місяців тому +4

      A guy in my section in the army hit a 74 out of 85 points on the shooting test at 300m. He shot a gun the first time that day.

  • @vidright
    @vidright 2 роки тому +41

    NO missing shot with iron sights. Congrats SIG (and Mr. Chan!)

    • @stefankrebs7593
      @stefankrebs7593 2 роки тому +3

      This prooves that the SG550 is a very precise weapon. We🇨🇭 are trained in shooting

    • @vidright
      @vidright 2 роки тому +1

      @@stefankrebs7593 Das sehe ich genau so. Das 550 ist zwar teuer in der Produktion aber auch sehr präzise. Wir hatten noch das G3 während meiner Zeit in der Bundeswehr. Die Ausführungen mit Polygonlauf schossen auch sehr präzise, aber an das 550er kamen sie wohl nicht heran.

  • @MikeB128
    @MikeB128 2 роки тому +93

    That TAZ 90 looks great. Thanks for the shoutout, and glad you're enjoying it!

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +40

      Guys, just be careful when you wear these, you could end up getting ladies pregnant.

    • @tiztiziani434
      @tiztiziani434 Рік тому +3

      @@9HoleReviews be carefull wearing these. They are the original fatigues and thus illegal to wear. Wait 2 years, then we'll get issued our new uniform.

  • @RAHAAON
    @RAHAAON 2 роки тому +86

    A few corrections:
    1. You don't BUY your service rifle, you pay for semi locking it, not for the rifle.
    2. Dust cover was torn a lot depending on the force (I'm from infantry).
    3. The officers MAY let you sometimes custom non essential parts when you're in the field. They NEVER allow any custom parts during the show off ceremonies (unless you're smart for some parts, like discreet pistol grip or SIG official telescopic stock).

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 Рік тому +10

      3) technically nothing is allowed besides mainstream material distributed... it is just about not getting caught with some modifications

    • @alessandrohuber4407
      @alessandrohuber4407 10 місяців тому +1

      Nowadays almost everyone has tape over the grip, cords on the magazines and when at the range the diopter for the PE90 screwed on the 300m sight hole. Even saw a few grenadiers with adjustable bipods. When I served a lot of people were using non-issue stuff, anything from larger shoulder pads for the pack to belt pouch for the 07 pocket knife. Almost every OF and UOF wore different boots too. Before 2010 you didn't have to pay to keep your service rifle.

    • @RAHAAON
      @RAHAAON 10 місяців тому

      Dude, every time a rank went up to me to tell me, that it's out of mil ordonnance, I was like so? I just have skills to put behind some sane modifications and gear, that's it. You don't need a pimped gun if you're in artillery...@@Vins9393

    • @doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097
      @doyouwanttogivemelekiss3097 5 місяців тому

      0:25 stock should be folded usually when carrying

    • @RAHAAON
      @RAHAAON 5 місяців тому

      @@Vins9393 it’s not about “not getting caught”, it’s about the commander and his tolerance towards the gear freedom and if it’s rationally used.

  • @fredericjaquet3729
    @fredericjaquet3729 2 роки тому +69

    So happy to watch a video about the assault rifle I used during my mandatory service in the infantry ! By the way, happy to see you wearing a genuine swiss BDU 😊👍🏻
    Watched 7 minutes but I have to go to work, I'll watch the end when coming back. Happy independence day guys !

    • @828enigma6
      @828enigma6 2 роки тому +2

      Thank you for remembering our nation's birth day.

  • @Softload3r
    @Softload3r 2 роки тому +15

    04:32 "Schweizer Qualität" you said and pronounced that really well, I'm impressed! haha Nice shooting too!

  • @Lomi311
    @Lomi311 2 роки тому +19

    I’ve always thought of the 550 as the coolest .556 rifle. Obviously, cool guns are always the best guns. ; )

  • @thearchibaldtuttle
    @thearchibaldtuttle Рік тому +2

    Hippity Hoppity this comment section is Swiss property! Had the StGw57 first and got equiped in the 90s with the StGw90 (SG550). What a difference in weight and ease to handle!! Stayed pretty much on target with every shot. The mandatory shooting program was a breeze and always done with close to maximum points in very short time. The StGw57 required you to wait until the vision blur was gone. Always got my card but it was harder to achieve the same points.

  • @nikolasbodmer6001
    @nikolasbodmer6001 2 роки тому +30

    The awsome thing is, im in the swiss army and you are wearing my bace patch. I love the STGW 90 the only problem is the weight. the accuracy is amazing with iron sights. All of us are trained to shoot at 300m, however we have soliders named KDO's which are like Designated marksman which have the same rifle but with a scope on it, there range is 600m.
    Nice Vid
    🙂

    • @huhnesser
      @huhnesser Рік тому +2

      Birmensdorf esch es lebe gsi

    • @stefankrebs7593
      @stefankrebs7593 Рік тому

      The only problem is the weight!? Try the SIG 510 /Stgw 57 then.. ;-)

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 Рік тому

      If they would have given me a scope ... 300m with an iron scope, when you get 30 and you go for your last shooting yearly test (i finished repetition courses in 2018)... my eyes get worse and worse 😂 hope not to get too many 0 in my scoreboard

  • @farmerbrown84
    @farmerbrown84 2 роки тому +110

    Interesting discussion. I have the 550 (PE90, 551 and 553) although at the moment I'm shooting a StGw-57/03 in competition. I also lost of bit of confidence in my PE90, since although it shot pretty well, it seemed to throw the odd shot on me that I could never explain or understand. I also blamed my eyesight, so I went for the 57/03 which allows a diopter on both ends of the rifle, rather than the front post on the PE90.
    Once, I took my PE-90 to a nearby testing range and got them to test it in a machine rest at 300m. After the test results came back, the tester told me to take the rifle, paint it blue and throw it in the nearest lake :-) (well, that's what I think he said - I'm naturalized Swiss). The blue paint was to ensure I never found it again. I didn't think the 300m group was that bad, but they have high standards.
    I have to say that the 551 SB is my favorite of the family. Mine has an ACOG on it, a 14.3" barrel, and it's just awesome out to 600m with the GP-90 ammo. There is also a long barreled version (-LB) with 17.8" barrel.

    • @fredEVOIX
      @fredEVOIX 2 роки тому +6

      a 75y old regular shooter of my family faced the same thing he started shooting late in his life with the 90 (did the army as medic shot very little in his youth) and switched to the 57 later because he also felt his shot were thrown here and there, just did his mastery a few weeks ago and he's doing pretty consistant 10s big respect to him and another colleague who does the same with the sig pistol instead, fun fact I shot the 57 then 90 before army as young shooter but then...was the last regiment with the 57 in Switzerland...great to shoot not so great to carry around >< I hate the floppy handle

    • @farmerbrown84
      @farmerbrown84 2 роки тому +12

      @@fredEVOIX I shot the 57 last Wednesday at practice. I thought I put 14 rounds in the magazine. I fired 4 sighters and pushed the match button to start the scored series.
      I then fired 1 x 9 and 8 x 10 for 89/90. I pulled the trigger on the final shot and the rifle went ">click

    • @jager6863
      @jager6863 2 роки тому +4

      The bipod attached to the handguard, the handguards themselves, in combination with the non-free floated barrel, allow any pressure to influence the impact of a shot. The AR-15 has the same issues and that is why the National Match guys in the past used a "Float Tube" under their handguards and a front sling swivel that is attached to it. If they didn't have that, the pressure from the shooting slings literally bends the barrel and influences the point of impact. Note that the US National Matches now allow a fixed $2,000 - 4.5x24mm Nightforce optic, with the Parallax set to 200 yards to be used in competition, as a lot of the old guys simply have issues with iron sights and their old eyes. If they were serious about our matches reflecting reality, they would have allowed only 4x ACOGs, but instead, they have a purpose built "Gamer Optic" for their National Match Game.

    • @mcantu197
      @mcantu197 2 роки тому +1

      What did the tester consider would have been a 'good' group?

    • @crono331
      @crono331 2 роки тому

      I think now a front diopter is allowed. Seen a few at my schiessverein. Last FS a lady beside me scored a 70 points with a pe90 so equipped. My son shot 58 points, at 12 years old and with only 4 training session

  • @lorenzi.2387
    @lorenzi.2387 2 роки тому +70

    Great work, greetings from Switzerland from a former Panzergrenadier that loves his 550. I use an m4 14.5’ for dynamic shooting, the weight difference is quite big and it’s way less front heavy. But I think in the end training makes the big difference. I believe there’s a big bias in reagards on what you were trained on. Regarding the diopter. Setting one open sight to up to 100m and for night shooting with the tritium inserts, I only used it for night shooting. Position 2 which could be used from 0-300m if zeroed at 36m with the army issue 556 ammo. 2 for 200m point shooting. red 3 white 4 theres was a screw which should removed for combat, theres a storage for the screw in the butt stock if unfolded. It was supposed taken out for combat shooting which then offered a bigger peek through. Leave in the screw for 300m precision shooting it only need adjustment to the aiming points, it shot about a feet higher. 3 for 300 point shooting. So there are many ways to use the same diopter. But many people bever read the manual which is handed out to every soldier with the rifle. Regarding the muzzle break the cone behind it offers an ideal seal for surpressors, can’t recal who manufactured them. The bajonet lug was also used for the grenade launcher.For more info feel free to drop me a message

  • @samuelreynaud361
    @samuelreynaud361 2 роки тому +3

    I love the smile on his face when he speaks about the Stgw90. It's a lovely rifle, had a blast with mine :)

  • @alexsis1778
    @alexsis1778 2 роки тому +17

    Maybe its just me but would have loved to see a rifle that just made a perfect score on the regular course at least attempt some of the longer range targets. I know 5.56 isn't really intended to be engaging targets beyond 500 yards, especially with iron sights, and starts to have ballistic issues but clearly the rifle is capable of at least making an attempt.

  • @bmagada
    @bmagada 2 роки тому +5

    The overall quality of the videos you guys produce has increased in massive steps. Always happy to see the notification....when youtube doesn't spaz out.

  • @nagarenius
    @nagarenius Рік тому +10

    I really hope you are getting your hands on a STGW 57 or SG 510, with the 7,5mm x 55mm (GP11) ammo, the best gun i shot.
    The STGW 90 or SG550 is also very accurate, but the STGW 57 got a little more punch to it, loved it. :D
    Very good video greets from Switzerland. :D

  • @paulkube3901
    @paulkube3901 2 роки тому +5

    Congrats on the clean shoot Henry! Wonderful production. Great combination of technical, practical and facts, with enough levity sprinkled in to keep it rolling.
    Thanks for your professionalism across the board.

  • @MANTIS_DnB
    @MANTIS_DnB Рік тому +32

    There is a thing that all the Swiss Guys who did the army tell about our Riffle.
    You can shoot full center in a "thune" (which is the name of our 5CHF piece of money) at 300m.
    This rifle is very accurate.
    We have a thing here called "Young shooter". Basically when you turn16, you can start "Young Shooter" in your city or village.
    It was crazy to see after few minutes of training anyone could shoot a target at 300m without any problem.
    Most of the shots were very close to each others.

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 Рік тому +2

      Yeah but the large majority joins the army with no rifle experience as i did. And even being in a mountain infantry batallion as a specialist ... i learnt nothing 😂 and just hope i will pass my last mandatory shooting test this year and give my fass90 back

    • @thomasdubuis3844
      @thomasdubuis3844 5 місяців тому

      14 not 16

    • @Stefan-im2bx
      @Stefan-im2bx 3 місяці тому

      Ab 10 Jahren darf bei uns geschossen werden.

  • @b.b.b81
    @b.b.b81 6 місяців тому +1

    Ich bin Schweizer und finde Euren Beitrag sehr lobenswert 🙂

  • @TheStephenTapp
    @TheStephenTapp 2 роки тому +27

    As a pest control marksman with my day job (and night time thermal and IR) shooting predominately involving air arms to comply with noise restrictions and "TIGHT" urban safety considerations of projectile fall, I so value the technical content you offer as a team. Thank you so very much for your content, I learn every time you post.

  • @Nutinwrkz
    @Nutinwrkz 2 роки тому +2

    Consistently the best gun content on UA-cam. Flat out.

  • @EricTheBody
    @EricTheBody 2 роки тому +25

    That’s a nice, clean, honest rifle. Great run!

  • @dprout3392
    @dprout3392 Рік тому +2

    Worth mentioning that training in the Swiss army is aiming at targets 300 meters (984 feet) away.

  • @matthewpahl7516
    @matthewpahl7516 2 роки тому +16

    An elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

  • @rolfspuler1056
    @rolfspuler1056 2 місяці тому

    Have one of those at home. We were the first recruits in the early 90ties that got this rifle in the Swiss Army. It's a great. Love it.

  • @billyraydavis3400
    @billyraydavis3400 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent rifle excellent markmanship thank you for all the hard work on the videos

  • @biit1260
    @biit1260 Рік тому +2

    I served in the Swiss Army as a weapons mechanic, but I was never a gun nut. What I really appreciated was the light weight. Who likes to carry a heavy weapon around on long marches. 😁

  • @FlyWithMe_666
    @FlyWithMe_666 2 роки тому +88

    The iron sights look like the HK G3’s. Having used such sights in the 90s for many years in the Military before the G36 was rolled out, I think this is a very good way to learn shooting. If you master these sights, transition to red dot or other advanced optics is a breeze.

    • @andreinarangel6227
      @andreinarangel6227 2 роки тому +1

      Rotating diopter drum (aka the "HK" sights). Frankly I've always liked them better than any other iron sight.

    • @stefankrebs7593
      @stefankrebs7593 2 роки тому

      They are NOT G3 sights, just plain "Drum sights". The have the advantage to be very easily adjusted for ranges and are common for iron sight marksmanship.

    • @vidright
      @vidright 2 роки тому +4

      @@stefankrebs7593 Es kann schon sein, dass die 550er Trommelkimme feiner justiert werden kann als diejenige des G3, aber prinzipiell ist es das gleiche System.

    • @Daniel-cw3gz
      @Daniel-cw3gz Рік тому

      the g36 is trash!

    • @ScullCandy56
      @ScullCandy56 Рік тому

      @bmusar bro what the fuck are you talking about? get some help and stop using drugs lol

  • @spectre1725
    @spectre1725 Рік тому +2

    I spend quite some time with that rifle. Wouldn't take another one to war. I'm pretty sure I still could take it a part and together in a short time :D
    The whole time. We are talking abound thousands of shot. I only remember one fail and I believe that it was the ammunition and not the rifle. Simply did a small manipulation to get the faulty bullet out and went right back to shoot again with the next bullet.
    I also loved the feature in the pistol handel which was hollow and you could open it from the bottom. Inside you always had a pair of strings which you would put on the rifle strap and you also would put in there an empty clip. Our Ammunition was handed out on clips. These clips did hold 10 bullets each. We used the empty clip to push all 10 bullets into the mag at the same time. 2x times and you had a full mag again. Very quick compared to loading single bullets.
    I was the other lucky guy that got an optic :) depending on your specialisation as infantry soldier one in the group and your squadleader would have that optic on.

  • @servicerifle16
    @servicerifle16 2 роки тому +5

    Love to see you revisit the Steyr AUG with interviews of Austrian, Australian or Irish soldiers that used it.

    • @greg5095
      @greg5095 Рік тому +1

      I'd like to see one of the newer Lithgow arms aug

  • @williamwallace7656
    @williamwallace7656 Рік тому

    1993 I got this fantastic gun in the army services, thousend of shots later, it still works perfect.
    Great army tool.
    Greets from Switzerland.
    Pat

  • @nikitaananjevas1614
    @nikitaananjevas1614 2 роки тому +27

    Rifle is incredible. But our ammo is also very good. Awesome shooting by you, guys!

    • @Stefan-im2bx
      @Stefan-im2bx 3 місяці тому

      Hast du das mitbekommen, haben die unsere Munition verwendet? Oder Nato Munition

    • @nikitaananjevas1614
      @nikitaananjevas1614 3 місяці тому

      @@Stefan-im2bx They used Lithuanian made (GGG ammo factory - Giraitės Ginkluotės Gamykla) 55gr FMJ munition for commercial use. Combat munition by GGG 5,56 NATO ball is heavier (62 gr) and I am not sure if it's eligible for civilian market. GGG installed new machinery back in early 2000s for entire production and quality control.

  • @johnwurfel2862
    @johnwurfel2862 2 роки тому +2

    Shoots a perfect course record with iron sights.
    Henry: Smiles in Swiss.

  • @marie-noellebaechler1433
    @marie-noellebaechler1433 2 роки тому +10

    Thank you for this fascinating video.
    It's very nice to see that the export version of the PE90 is the only rifle with wich you were able to achieve a perfect. score!
    Just a few more points:
    - the use of 20 rounds magazines is intentional. It helps soldiers keeping a lower silouette on the ground.
    - it is now possible to find aftermarket free floating handguards (Brugger & Thomet)
    - the PE 90 is the self loading version of an ordonnance rifle. Of course, full match versions of AR-15 can be a lot more accurate and have a much longer range (especially. In 6.5 grendel). But the comparison is not fair (a match rifle does not have the same requirements than an ordnance rifle).

  • @kanonierable
    @kanonierable Рік тому +1

    The best of US gun culture meets the finest in Swiss military hardware - a match made in heaven!

  • @noah-vk7zc
    @noah-vk7zc 2 роки тому +66

    We had a few 14 year olds in our "jungschützen" (youth shooter program financed by the swiss army) that shot 10s and 9s (~4-8") groups at 300m all day long. The rifles we got from the army were definetly not 1moa rifles anymore but they still did their job if you did yours.
    A freshly barreld PE/Stgw90 in the right hands will shoot 2-4" groups at 300m very very consistently. It might not be a 0.5moa ultra high grade olympic competition rifle but its plenty accurate while still beeing pretty reliable and durable.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen 2 роки тому +1

      To everybody's complete lack or surprise a West European country with a decently high GPD per capita has a service rifle that is plenty good at shooting bogies dead at normal combat ranges :P

    • @SwissBloke
      @SwissBloke 2 роки тому +6

      Well the GP90 datasheet shows 21mm @100m and 63 @300m so that's actually sub-MOA. And you can get SWISS P Target that are 17mm @300m

    • @SwissBloke
      @SwissBloke 2 роки тому +5

      @Random Pickle out-of-factory they're 3.5k, used about 1.5k tops

    • @billsmith3118
      @billsmith3118 2 роки тому +2

      @@SwissBloke i looked for ages and the only ones i found for 1.5k were worn out and looked rather abused. i would say a range of 2000 - 2300 is more realistic, but new black 550-1 can be bought from la gardere for around 2600 when they have stock.

    • @SwissBloke
      @SwissBloke 2 роки тому

      @@billsmith3118 I've found multiples that were nice at that price point; some even came with diopter and were gauged.
      I wouldn't trust Lagardère on that, they're crooks

  • @MrWeirdoh
    @MrWeirdoh 2 роки тому +2

    As a german fan, thank you for aknowledging the Schweizer Qualität

  • @petesheppard1709
    @petesheppard1709 2 роки тому +11

    I just watched the run, and that is the FIRST clean run (that I recall anyway). A great rifle and shooter, and the conditions were perfect!

  • @markusschellenberg4684
    @markusschellenberg4684 Рік тому +2

    The Swiss army, when they decided in the 1980es to replace the SIG 510 (also Stgw 57) aimed to do better, although the Stgw 57, had a bigger calibre (7,5 *55mm) and was reputed to be very accurate. And yes, they did a great job!

  • @removollenweider5613
    @removollenweider5613 Рік тому +3

    Nice Guy!! Schweizer Qualität. Grüsse aus Neuhausem am Rheinfall…

  • @cadian122
    @cadian122 2 роки тому +1

    Not surprised for me.. One of the top 3 greatest assault rifles ever made..

  • @mustdriveslower
    @mustdriveslower 2 роки тому +12

    Very surprised at this outstanding run using triple G ammo. I have used a lot of GGG in 7.62 and found them to be not up to competition use. The brass is good for reloading despite the inconvenience of the crimped primers, though. Amazing result on 5.56! Well shot Henry.

  • @FLSheepdog
    @FLSheepdog 2 роки тому +2

    Love seeing European shooters give their take. It was interesting to see the similarities to design philosophy and shooting style from my cousins in Norway who are in similar environs.

  • @janickfah1170
    @janickfah1170 Рік тому +1

    Im from Swiss, this Rifle is Love for Sharp Shooters like you. Great Shooting.❤

  • @CaptShocker
    @CaptShocker 2 роки тому +13

    I honestly wasn't aware that there were no "clean" runs prior to this. And to clean on a 223..... Nice job 👌

    • @sorashirogami1729
      @sorashirogami1729 2 роки тому +2

      Not even the sniper variant of this gun got a clean run.

  • @Flozonfl04
    @Flozonfl04 3 місяці тому

    At 16:30 he got the point that most experts overlook. The Rifle is great, but it's the ammo combined with it that gives it the edge. The GP90 Round was made for the StGw90 and in combination they achieve the accuracy the rifle is known for. If you like rabbit holes go research GP89, there is a lot more to discover ;)

  • @Aldarris
    @Aldarris 2 роки тому +13

    the 550 was my favorite weapon in cs 1.6 aesthetically so I am quite pleased to see this.

  • @240pixel
    @240pixel 2 роки тому +9

    B&T APC223 would be another cool Swiss rifle to see. I wish those were more common

  • @GammaRayTrae
    @GammaRayTrae 2 роки тому +40

    Man I’ve always wanted one of these guns. Love the look of it and I’m shocked you got a clean run with iron sights with it. Ready to see the MCX get a run

    • @samuelreynaud361
      @samuelreynaud361 2 роки тому +2

      Here in switzerland you can buy one everywhere for cheap. Hope you get your hands on one. It's a blast !

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 2 роки тому +2

      @@samuelreynaud361 there is a key word tho good sir "in Switzerland" we WIIISH here in the US to have your guys arms and ammo really cheap haha hello from Oklahoma!!

  • @Nagel256
    @Nagel256 Рік тому

    i start to like my service Rifle more now after seeing this video
    Greetings from Switzerland

  • @tarantulathree-one8013
    @tarantulathree-one8013 2 роки тому +5

    This is one of the rifles that proves that an Infantry rifle doesn't have to be free floated to be accurate.

    • @000Mazno000
      @000Mazno000 2 роки тому +2

      A lack of free-float only affects accuracy if you're putting load on the handguard (as it can cause the barrel to shift.) The same rifle, with and without free float, should shoot pretty much the same MoA as long as you're not pressed against a barrier or leaning into a bipod.

    • @tarantulathree-one8013
      @tarantulathree-one8013 2 роки тому +1

      @@000Mazno000 Yeah. We've tested an slick mk12 clone against a slick scar16, with only irons. Difference was negligible within 500 meters. Between 5 trigger pullers too, all of them Bravo40 qualified. I was spotting and was impressed. Ammo used was 75 grain bthp magtech. Shooting from lower elevation to higher in a flattened valley so barely any left and right wind call.
      People call me crazy when I say if you're not running a peq and bipod, there is no distinction between an free float and non free float with a quality barrel, especially if you're just resting the rifle on a ruck or an assault pack.

    • @tarantulathree-one8013
      @tarantulathree-one8013 2 роки тому

      @kevin pierson Agreed, with enough training and optic is just for spotting and speed.

  • @Dalesarty
    @Dalesarty 2 роки тому

    Great run, interviews and shout out to Mike. Awesome support of the community 👍👍.

  • @SuperMeatMachine
    @SuperMeatMachine 2 роки тому +7

    This episode is Othias length and damn well worth the watch

  • @tullo5564
    @tullo5564 2 роки тому +7

    This gun outperformed the expensive SCAR-L along with M4 and even M16,wow

    • @surfingtothestars
      @surfingtothestars 2 роки тому +2

      it also costs more than a SCAR lol

    • @burgundycommander7589
      @burgundycommander7589 2 роки тому +1

      @@surfingtothestars what does the cost have anything to do with this?

    • @SkinnySuge69
      @SkinnySuge69 2 роки тому +2

      When the original commenter mentioned "the expensive" before listing rifles?

  • @jussimakarussi
    @jussimakarussi 2 роки тому +16

    Using 3 different chronographs I've measured the GGG 55gr 223Rem to be leaving my 13.5" AR barrel at 910m/s (3000fps) and 62gr at 870m/s (2870fps). Basically it's 5.56 without the moisture sealing.
    I feel like the European market is just scared to market something as 5.56 due to the military relation.

    • @farmerbrown84
      @farmerbrown84 2 роки тому +1

      Yes, in some countries, that's true.

    • @MellowFellowOfYellow
      @MellowFellowOfYellow 2 роки тому +2

      It’s because CIP doesn’t differentiate them while SAAMI does.

    • @erwannq
      @erwannq 2 роки тому +1

      Definitely great ammo. I'm glad you can get it in the US. The fact that it comes in a metallic ammo case when you buy a thousand is a very nice bonus.

    • @jussimakarussi
      @jussimakarussi 2 роки тому +1

      @@erwannq This is something unique for the US, in Finland you can buy them in cardboard boxes containing 24×50rds.

    • @jussimakarussi
      @jussimakarussi 2 роки тому

      @@MellowFellowOfYellow This makes sense

  • @sapico72
    @sapico72 Рік тому +5

    It took Pascal quite a while to realize that his rifle was not secured until 29:46. That would have gotten him into a lot of trouble, i.p. being an officer! And yes, I was in the swiss army too.

  • @bruiser0159
    @bruiser0159 2 роки тому +4

    This is definitely a Bucket List Firearm I need for My Collection..👌🏼

  • @billj5645
    @billj5645 2 роки тому +7

    The hits on target seemed to show 3MOA or better. Even a very accurate rifle usually cannot do better than 2-3MOA with ball ammo. So the key in this rifle had to be the sights- the rifle started with a good zero and when you dialed in more elevation the windage stayed very good, plus the elevation settings seemed to be very close to the trajectory of that ammo. And the shooter has to do his part too which is not to be dismissed lightly because he's using field expedient positions and rest and using a somewhat unfamiliar rifle. So all the factors come together and you have a good run.

    • @thatsquidwardfeel5567
      @thatsquidwardfeel5567 2 роки тому +3

      The army acceptance standard is about 1.25 MOA (11cm diameter or less at 300m using GP90 and firing from a ransom rest) for the 550 and GP90 combination.
      Obviously not match grade, but very respectable for a general-issue service rifle.

  • @pitch71
    @pitch71 2 роки тому +7

    I was trained on the Stgw 57 and later an the Stgw 90. Loved both of them

  • @FreerideHellDriver
    @FreerideHellDriver 2 роки тому +5

    Hello from Switzerland, very nice shooting Gentlemen 👌

  • @modulo-engineering
    @modulo-engineering Рік тому

    Your video reminds me of my time in the military, when I shot not only the Stgw.90 but also the Stgw.57. 7.5×55mm ammunition. we even hit targets at 500-600 meters very well.. you should definitely try it out.. it's fun. greetings from switzerland.

  • @KaBar762
    @KaBar762 2 роки тому +16

    Great shooting, great rifle. Would love to have one of these rifles some day.
    That said, there is no reason that the M16A4 with the ACOG RCO couldn’t do the exact same thing.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +15

      And M4 and acog would be pushing projectiles much slower than the 550

    • @mrhounddog8271
      @mrhounddog8271 2 роки тому +18

      @@9HoleReviews I think he meant the full size rifle. The M16A4 is 20"

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +26

      @@mrhounddog8271 you’re right, I misread M4 :)

    • @joshuahuling303
      @joshuahuling303 2 роки тому +4

      A2 and later M16s have the dumbest barrel profile ever put on a service rifle holding them back and also a sub optimal twist rate to stabilize tracers.
      I'm not surprised this does better.

    • @9HoleReviews
      @9HoleReviews  2 роки тому +23

      @@joshuahuling303 this SG550 has the 1/7 twist just like the M16A2. The A2 barrel profile has no negative impact on accuracy

  • @Skymarshal57
    @Skymarshal57 Рік тому +2

    I like "Testament to the Schweizer Qualität" at minute 4:30h! "Nünzg" is 1990 referring to the year of official introduction to the army.

  • @BobSaint
    @BobSaint 2 роки тому +3

    It's unique, not only in Deutsch, but in Français too. You know, French and their numbers... 90 would be "four twenties ten". Swiss French are more precise and practical, of course.

  • @LordSargonvonAkkad
    @LordSargonvonAkkad Рік тому

    Funny fact, in the early 90s when they gave out the riffles to the soldiers, alot of them had allready rust on it, because they where bunkerd for quite a while ;), they start producing them in 1981, imagine that, so this riffle is over 40 years old, still in service here, and we still love it ;)

  • @boydseabiscuit2635
    @boydseabiscuit2635 2 роки тому +13

    still the best 5.56 rifle after so many years

    • @surfingtothestars
      @surfingtothestars 2 роки тому +2

      debatable but ok...

    • @surfingtothestars
      @surfingtothestars 2 роки тому

      @kevin pierson lots of 5.56 rifles out there. Don't get me wrong, I'll take a SG 550 to hell and back but there's lots of other options as well

  • @AllroundSwizzy
    @AllroundSwizzy Рік тому +5

    We had the pleasure to have a long range day where we shot at 600m ...so around 650y, with the optic & a tracer round every other round. You can see where the first shot goes and every other shot after that is almost a guaranteed hit. Never had it jam on me, never had any issues except for rubber parts getting old & worn down. Granted, we (i) clean it after every use.

  • @240pixel
    @240pixel 2 роки тому +10

    As Lithuanian I approve the ammo choice. I prefer the GGG GP21 NATO spec 62 Gr ammo over the 55 Gr 223 spec

    • @jacksonthompson7099
      @jacksonthompson7099 2 роки тому

      Wow i'm impressed you like that round more than the 55 grain! Here in the states the SS109 bullet is not a good target round and the 55 grain bullet is preferred due to more traditional construction and manufacturing process.

    • @240pixel
      @240pixel 2 роки тому

      @@jacksonthompson7099 Many European rifles are set up for SS109. Including my G36 clone. It will have malfunctions with 55gr and runs flawless with 62 gr.

  • @armd_n_rdy
    @armd_n_rdy 13 годин тому

    I loved using the STGW 90 during my duty days. Although not as accurate as the STGW 57 at 500+ meters, the loss of weight for standard engagement range was an all-round plus. Wouldn't trade it for any AR setup.

  • @thomasschneeberger7661
    @thomasschneeberger7661 2 роки тому +16

    It performed very well with the 55 grn bullet despite the barrell is intended for 63 grn bullets. Greetings from Switzerland

  • @mitchjames9350
    @mitchjames9350 2 роки тому

    I like how you also use metric measurements for those who don’t know imperial

  • @A8vscRrabbit
    @A8vscRrabbit 2 роки тому +5

    My father & i have had ours 10+ yrs. Only 1 malfunction in that time. A bad reload. My fault. I have thousands and thousands of rounds through mine although my father has rarely shot his.... great rifles, just heavy.

  • @gundalfgunner
    @gundalfgunner Рік тому +2

    06:06 You wear my patch :) MILF PROTECTORS inf DD Bat 141 🙌🏻

  • @giomoscioni9949
    @giomoscioni9949 Рік тому +12

    Back in 1991 when I did my Military Service in Switzerland in an elite troop (Panzer Grenadier) we were the first ones to get the FASS90, an incredible rifle and extremely precise. We were told back in the day by our superiors who did the Swiss Raid Commando course that SIG developed the weapon taking the best of several parts from the (AK, M16, Galil, and others). Nevertheless, we were all amazed about its accuracy at long range. To be honest it was not hard to hit the mid-top torso on a 300m target (without scope) using the bipod. I miss my rifle number 6520.

    • @Vins9393
      @Vins9393 Рік тому +1

      I give you mine then... 5415

  • @cnlbenmc
    @cnlbenmc 2 роки тому +2

    How to make a long stroke gas piston system accurate; have the Swiss build it.

  • @darklyripley6138
    @darklyripley6138 2 роки тому +5

    Hey guys, love the video! I was wondering if since you’ve started adding discussions at the end, if you could add time stamps in the description. That way we could see different parts of the conversation. This time stamp is talking about the history. This time stamp is about performance, ect.

  • @archpriest6
    @archpriest6 2 роки тому +1

    Henry: The old veteran's call that "plunging fire", I think.

  • @dtcb1
    @dtcb1 2 роки тому +5

    have been waiting to finally see a practical shooting of the sig550.
    it is the only rifle I've ever worked with and it's the only rifle I ever would want to work with.
    much appreciate to you and supporters.

  • @tubestyle
    @tubestyle Рік тому +1

    Nice video and also nice that you like our stgw90. Shot some rounds on it in the swiss military. About swiss and the stgw90 theres also every year a folk festival where young swiss people between a given age can shoot the stgw90 on 300m for some big prices. We call it Knabenschiessen, whitch means boys shooting. Also this was to faszinate the young guys for the recruitment. Also it was just for boys and since some years also for girls. Maybe interessting for a video ;-)

  • @bigmedicine8042
    @bigmedicine8042 2 роки тому +4

    Man. That's probably the best iron sighted service rifle shooting that I've seen.

  • @efoxneo
    @efoxneo 2 роки тому +2

    Absolutely spectacular. A beautiful rifle that is sadly banned in Canada (again).

    • @dwi2921
      @dwi2921 2 роки тому

      It's only down hill from here man.
      Canadian public has turned against us pretty throughly at this point. Not surprising really, we've (or at least my generation) have been force fed propaganda about how we are "better" and "more reasonable" than Americans for years.
      Everything about this screams that gun guys here in Canada are not seen as "real Canadians" at all, but rather "the other". We are supposed to be the "nice" ones with a "polite society" after all. Anything to maintain the image right?
      Nationalism blows...
      Still, I'd rather live in a pusedo- democracy like we have than not one at all. Sometimes the cookie doesn't crumble in your favor. It's not like we can't survive this. Hell the Matagi people kept their guns (granted it's mostly shotguns only) and culture in a place like Japan so we have no excuses here

  • @muffty1337
    @muffty1337 2 роки тому +3

    It's better than German rifles?! My shock level is over 9000. D:

  • @hansjorgmoser1371
    @hansjorgmoser1371 Рік тому +2

    Don't mess with Swiss Army 🙂. There are an awful lot of these around here (not to mention the older STGW 57). Impressive Video! Impressive shooter accuracy! Liked the video.

  • @santosrojo5070
    @santosrojo5070 2 роки тому +3

    After the 300 yard mark. I was intensely smiling. And loudly cheer at his final shot. All while in the comfort of my toilet seat 🤣🤣

  • @farva37
    @farva37 2 роки тому

    The superiority of the newsletter flexes on the plebs almost as hard as long sleeves and 550.

  • @kippamip
    @kippamip 2 роки тому +5

    Looks wise it kinda reminds me of an SLR. Fantastic run and looks like a nice rifle. Looks like it's gotta hit the speedway.
    Great content as always Henry and Josh. I'm presuming you might get the new US service rifle on the course soon as its doing the rounds and gun Jesus had a hold of it not so long ago. 🤔✌🏼🇬🇧

  • @linusreichert7707
    @linusreichert7707 2 роки тому +2

    Get a stgw 57 and a sig 510-4 pls :)

  • @TheZibi01
    @TheZibi01 2 роки тому +20

    Swiss Army Officer here. Cool review, thanks👍 One remark: at least in the Swiss Army version, the flash hider is not machined into it. It is removable. Fact is, the machining is so well made that you can hardly see it. It is also a fact which is not well known even in Switzerland.

    • @commanderlook2822
      @commanderlook2822 2 роки тому +4

      Wait what? Do you need a special tool to take it off? I just tried without success...
      Also is there any documentation (text or video) of that? I didn't find shit in the 53.096

    • @Slithermotion
      @Slithermotion 2 роки тому +5

      As a Swiss Army Sergeant the first thing you'll learn is to always question the knowledge of an officer, they have mastered confidence while being absolutely clueless.
      Plus from all of the milicia army they probably have the least experience with the stgw90 compared to soldier or non commisioned officers since they get a service pistol in exchange for their service rifle as their primary weapon.
      ua-cam.com/video/0IX0Gr7olLY/v-deo.html
      Dale uploaded a manufacturing video of the Stgw90 look at 5:15 and you will see that the flash suppressor is directly machined out of the steel blank together with the grenade adapter.
      And i've never seen a flash suppressor off, exchange. Not in Real life or in photos.

  • @sportschiesser1183
    @sportschiesser1183 Рік тому

    Another special swiss rifle is the StGw. 57, because ist a compleatly difrend reloadingsystem. and sorry for my bad written english and also a great video

  • @moisesgarcia1495
    @moisesgarcia1495 Рік тому +4

    The precision components and sheer quality of the gun mechanism of the sg550 Swiss clock precision put in a awesome rifle!

  • @Trident023
    @Trident023 2 роки тому +1

    A testimony to “Schweizer Qualität”

  • @darthtyranus378
    @darthtyranus378 2 роки тому +3

    this rifle takes everything we know about accuracy, throws it all out the window and just rocks. perhaps it's magic.

  •  2 роки тому

    Awesome shooting 🥰👌Edit: btw I did get to see their prototype rifle in 7.5 firing out of a single stack mag for competition use Sig AG is making right now when I visited the factory. That will be awesome.