Kagan Raises Bribery Hypothetical When Questioning Jack Smith's Lawyer On Presidential Immunity
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Justice Elena Kagan questions Special Counsel Jack Smith's attorney Michael Dreeben in yesterday's oral arguments for Trump v. United States.
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Kagan, talking about bribes, does she mean the President can be convicted of Bribery for his family receiving millions of dollars after the president does favors for the parties giving money to his family?
You know!?
If so, the Clintons are in deep shiz.
What's interesting about that is that he was actually the vice president when he did that (unless it's also happened more recently, too), so that would open up a whole new question about the vice president's immunity.
Trump's family.
@@KevinSmith-gu7fb interesting that as VP he snuck documents out he was never authorized to take. A clear case of espionage and treason. The fact he held on to them so many years makes it a much greater crime than what Trump is being prosecuted for.
Is she talking about Biden and Ukraine?
You aren’t paying attention.
Yes!
This is all about Trump........OMG
By the time Joe leaves office, let's just say his late age will finally consume him and the lights will be out. All the DEMS will point to that man's cold body and blame him for everything that went wrong. Imagine...blaming the guy pushing daisies. However, likely a good thing since tit-for-tat is not a path our Country needs to head down, regardless of how they unjustly tried to crucify Trump in several courts around the U.S. Will Hillary be the target of the next round of political retribution? Kamala, Chuck, Adam, Nancy? Spin the wheel.
This isn’t about Trump. It’s much bigger than that.
Sounds like the bribery discussion revolves around the former VP…just saying
So Joe ought to be next in line to prosecute?
So he should be because the immunity clause doesn’t cover this as it’s certainly not part of presidential duties, I think the judge is dropping him a hint while setting up for a future precedent. If I was a democrat I’d be very worried where this is going.
All you’d need is a shred of evidence! You were better at manufacturing it under Bush Jr., and HE sucked at it.
@@peterbuckley3877joey bribes was the VP when he took the bribes and the quid pro quo with the Ukraine gas company on behalf of his son Hunter for private use to pay bills etc.
and Barry was in on it he knew exactly what was happening .
Someone was also murdered in his pond during private time as a civilian
YES
He's been deemed unfit to stand trial, lol.
So how does the Supreme Court view the department of justice conniving to put the former president, who is also the front runner, in jail to keep him from being reelected
Why would a DA take this case and allow themselves to seem so ignorant pushing this garbage? At least the SC is making him look sufficiently idiotic
I think some of them don't really want to do it. I kind of get that impression about Jack Smith and Alvin Bragg. I think they're being strong-armed somehow by the admin.
I agree he sounds stupid on all fronts
Use of official use of power for private gain, dude you’re not talking about the former guy at 1600, you’re talking about current residents.
Smith's lawyer is helping Trumps case, Dreeben seemed to be stuck on "hypotheticals" while Kagen was looking at specifics. Interpreting law and inserting what is not said as "assumed" is dangerous.
What about the VP
Involved in bribery? 😮
That Judge throwing in “hypotheticals”, you can see through her reasoning what’s behind them. 👎🏻
I begining to think hes arguing about biden
No his not arguing on Biden.
Congress have never found evidence Biden taking a bribe although GOPs falsely tried to create fake and false information.
Trump family received bribery payment from Saudia Arabia for not investigating the American Journalist who was decapitated and murdered.
That's a bribe.
How??? Joe has done nothing
@@kinghomiejuice1217 remember the laptop from hell? its actually real....
@@kinghomiejuice1217 money trail from Ukraine and China? but remember, he is too senile to put before a jurry as per DC special investigators on smaller issues like taking top secret documents as a senator or VP...
This has Nothing to do with President Biden!
The Hypotheticals were flying thick and fast the past couple of days. Lib-Dems LOVE posing them but otherwise won't deal with them at all.
Hypotheticals is ALL Gorsuch and Alito added to the arguments! You're listening only to what supports your narrative. You must be so proud of your Trump University law degree.
@@janetkriegl6720 Your day to be cranky Janet? Shouldn't you be helping out at some college protest?
@@janetkriegl6720There are drugs for pms....I mean TDS.
Bribery, joe better beware how they rule.
That is exactly what I was thinking. This is describing Biden…not Trump!
I don’t see how they don’t send this case back to a lower court. It’s really dangerous if they commit to a ruling that can affect the future presidents .
@@squid148Biden is next if they are able to "prove" Trump.
@@charlesloomis2224 me too, just waiting for that ace congressional committee to deliver the goods. Go Comer and co.!!
Your so Touched this is Nothing about Biden!
It sounds like they're talking about Biden and his administration
Absolutely
Plz explain
@derekdaniels7678 Influence peddling is bribery. 22 LLC shell companies. Banking transaction records linked to $25 million in deposits to family members, including his grandchildren. White House visitor logs proving that the foreign entity benefactors were in meetings with Joe. Dinners. Lunches. Text messages. Emails. Phone calls. Does that explain enough for you?
You have allegations that’s is Biden without receipts or physical evidence
It sounds like your comprehension level is woefully inadequate to be commenting. But carry on
Why do u think bribery was mentioned?
All about Joe
It was trump that was doing all the Bribing. The time has run out on your thought of Biden Bribing anyone back in 2008. That was over 10yrs ago
@@jkatlantic1No it’s about the Born Criminal djt
Um, bribery is SPECIFICALLY listed as an impeachable offense. How can these justices be allowed to remain if they don't even know this?
This guy and his I THINK doesn't actually mean it is!!!!
I’m hearing a lot of “I think” from this guy.
100%
If anyone has been following these arguments and put all his I thinks together they sound a lot like they would only prosecute Trump so don't worry about future Presidents. A lot like the NY case when real estate business owners were like wtf?
I love the hypotheticals. Some should be made into a movie.....oh, that's right, they have!!!!
Quid pro Joe will not be immune.
Two tier justice system is all the immunity Joe will ever need. Joe's untouchable just like Hillary, Pelosi, Obama and the rest of them!
Lolol, what the heck are you talking about? It was Trump who was impeached twice for a quid pro quo.
Guess we can indict him for that .
Oh that's right we did. J6th inserraction and fake electorals. Lolol
nothing found.
There’s a mountain of evidence and bank records but Dementia Joe and Obama own the FBI and the DOJ. Lower level bureaucrats know that their careers depend on prosecuting Republicans. Democrats who refuse to play ball with this very corrupt administration can also be prosecuted.
Great story line; super artwork; don't miss it
You mean like Biden shaking down Ukraine?
Donald Trump is one of America’s greatest heroes
@JulieAnn87 You probably think he called the "white nationalists" in Charlottesville 'fine people", too.
Hahahahahahaha
@@twiztid6977420 he did say that 🤷♀️ my father died in Vietnam, the war that the orange dude dodged because his little tootsies hurt 😵💫
@@JulieAnn87 that never happened, look it up
Germans believed Hitler was a great hero and some still believe today.
Yes, get the briber in chief Brib'em. Lock him up.
My favourite judge tbh. The most centrist one out of the whole pack.
nope.... Kagan did her best to toss a softball question..
... but... *WHIFFFFF*
Yeah, 👈🤔 he sounds like an
MSDNC, "expert"...
Fjb! got a pass?!
This validates #TRUMP, not guilty of bribery!
Trump has received foreign financial gain from Saudia Arabia paid the Trump to not investigate an American Journalist murder.
Does this include when being blackmailed by Schumer or Pelosi and you pay them off to stay silent when you vote their way?
Biden needs to be worried
he doesn’t know what day it is
FJB. when the shoe is on the other foot the left will go more insane than they are.
Alternate electors, not false electors. There is precedent for alternate electors.
Just like “alternative facts”? You guys are a little too comfy with lying nonstop. And w-a-a-y too comfy with rape and domestic terrorism.
I feel like these people don’t understand the constitution. You’re allowed to create electors.
It's the only constitutional way to dispute a fraudulent election.
Exactly they are not "fraudulent " electors they are alternative electors in the event that the election results are successfully challenged
Whatever law you create, the President oversees it.
Election integrity seems like an official function to me.
Sure look like Biden & Family might want to worry.
lol She is Talking about The Born Criminal donald trump and Nobody Else!!!
The female justice sounds manlier than the liberal lawyer 😂
so, if Congress passes and aid package and then Senate approves, then the Bill is signed and then they all get rich is that then a Rico case??? Wow, I should have went to law school I really think I can't tell a crook from a good guy any more! Can we just get them Black and White hats?? That was just easier in the good old days!
1. FJB
2. TRUMP2024
3. FJB
4. DEI = Didn't Earn It.
5. Persecution, not prosecution.
DEI = Didn't Earn It. U r a f n genius!
Brilliant!
There is a lot of circular reasoning emerging in these arguments.
Remember to vote this election
He,s trying to protecting his dem buddys
Biden is up next if they get Trump.
He is taking more on a personal level
Theres no such thing as office seeker vs office holder every sitting president who has only sat 1 term will take actions in the event he wants to get re elected for a second term such a dumb argument thankful for a strong supreme court
One of the Justices made that exact point.
Yes he can so get electors removed and then replaced.. jfk did that no crime
I think if Trump loses we the American people need to get some lawyers and go after Biden and Obama and Bush the Clintons pee wee Herman sounds like he’s trying to make some new rules
Trump 2024. 🇺🇸🗽🙌🏿👏🏼🤜🏼🇺🇸🤛🏼❤
Blden's minion: Don't you worry about the future precedent, justices, it's all Trump specific prosecution.
Bullseye.
If anyone has been following this that's exactly what he keeps implying, same as the NY AG, or Governor (I forget which) basically said it out loud. The Justices have basically told him what dangerous precedent he's trying to set.
FJB has been bribed many times over.
I've never heard so much dribble in my life time.
Anyone here watch rogan? Of course you do, i see a lot of common sense and critical thinking here, anyways. Remember when rogan had the guest who wanted to host rogans show for a week and rogan was like you have nothing to offer me that i cant get myself.. rogans got fck you money... i see trump as the same way.. anyone on the left would scream and shout that trump can be bribed blah blah blah, but i believe hes on the "fck you" financial level hence why he never took a paycheck as president.. didnt need it
Madam President before elections.
What’s wrong with Dribbles voice .
Presidents, including Biden run on if you vote for me, I will give you this?
The projection amongst some of these folks posting comments is truly astounding.
Is it as astounding as a senator being let the off hook for illegally taking classified documents (senators CANNOT declassify) to cash in on a book deal because he’s a “well meaning elderly man with poor memory” while his primary opponent is being railroaded, even though he at least has standing as the POTUS?
@@SJones11b Fact. Let's name names. Biden was investigated and no charges were brought, by a republican attorney, no less. Pence had classified records, . He was not charged. Donald Trump has 88 indictments. Can you imagine if you or I had 88 indictments? Government is not always pure and above egregious acts. What is your game plan if DJT is elected?
Please watch other news outlets, besides your favourite one. Really, I'm trying to reach across the aisle, as they say.
@@elizabethflynr7561 How is telling half the country to sit back and accept they’re preferred candidate being hauled in and out of court for frivolous BS while your guy is dragged from place to place by his wife/handler with absolutely no idea what the hell is going on “reaching across the aisle”?
She's making a case against Biden
So the executive order that has every agency going out and getting the vote, using federal dollars -that was illegal? 4:34 time link
And that order was signed 3yrs ago. Why was it not brought before the court and struck down already? It's blatantly unconstitutional.
Kagan, a Democrat, should have pondered her question a whole lot more because there is a political family which for half a century had no product to "sell" but influence...
Protect him from private lawsuit? Yea right they also sued him that too is currently in court .. this guy is a joke
Let's get Judge Judy or Judge Milan, to hear the trump court cases...! They are "NO NONSENSE", judges who would get it done. Not like these other judges who keep finding loop holes. let Do Process be your oath and guide. Or are we watching a "Truman Show ", moment
Is it me or does he sound like Steve ukel😅
He doesn't sound like him. He sounds like Dexter.
Listen up Joey Briben 😁
Yeah but,,The Court needs to identify the pro noun operative for " Jackson vs Gender ' in the OSHA motto ( Valor Knows No Jackson ), especially with an UN secure border, and a robe with no 1981 Hazmat running DA and Law Gaurdian Foster Care cash cows ICC through Laura Ingalls Little Red Heifers on Lagrange Prairie debute all on the premise of ' Albert ' ,,,he was invented by the director, wasn't part of Laura Wilder Ingalls Biography. I believe the competition was the Waltons and the " Brady Bunch vs Eight is Enough " got segued with Jerry Springer talk show, and daytime talk show Regis and Kathy Lee Gifford ratings at that time, 1978 - 1981 Hazmat Placard breach by the Brown and White Placard Playgrounds privatised PA.
LMAO. Jokers.
Rhat was Biden!
What about biden ??
Kagan going to side with conservatives on this!!!
They know they should because regardless of their disdain for Trump it would open up a can of worms that would go on forever.
help. They are being oppressed and having their property taken away by the Korean government for keeping the law of God. I have maintained my chastity and have not done anything that would offend my conscience.
Pray in Jesus name and get out of there. Our borders are wide open, unfortunately for us but very fortunate for you. Use wisdom.
Pray in Jesus name and get out of there. Our borders are wide open, unfortunately for us but very fortunate for you. Use wisdom.
@@erikakathleen509 People who hate disorder are indirectly helping me, but there is no one around me to help.
I like how they talk about the Article 2 powers that define Presidential acts, but where in the Constitution does it define the existence of the Office of Legal Counsel?
Bribery is part and parcel of being a politician lol. Kagan must be play acting here because surely she knows there is no precedent for prosecuting a president for bribery though every man and his dog know it's part of normal negotiations in most of the gov't.
Bribing people is the Born Criminal trump and Nobody Else! Statue of limitations run out on Biden that was in 2008 it’s been over 7yrs
I'm slow of thought some days but is not these lawyers in the Department of Justice under the perview of the President subject to the Congress?
😇💙💙🙏🇺🇲🌏
Obvious which way she is leaning
Jeeze this guy keeps saying the same thing...if the president is prosecuted...take their word for it.
Her words should be used to throw Biden in jail.
Biden is Clear of any charges time has run out 2008 to 2017 is 7yrs this is all about The Born Criminal trump
Listen to Kagan. She does not view the Constitution as limiting government but she views it as “it says whatever we want it to.”
Rambling hyperbole
The justice are ignorant.and dancing around. The real question.they should be arrested.
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Rotflmao
Trump ought to be emphasizing that ordinary American citizens will be treated by the courts as he is being treated. One mistake on your taxes and you have voted the wrong way…
This lawyers answers are great: Obama, Pelosi, Schumer, Schiff, FBI leadership and CIA’s Brennan could all criminally prosecuted.
Potentially…
Bias
I wish they would ask about Quid Pro Quo with Ukraine prosecutor
She talk'n bout Biden??😮
No she’s talking about The Born Criminal trump! The time run out on Biden that was back in 2008 limitations have Run out on that in 2017
These lawyers speak a different language than us. It's called legalese. There's no point in listening to this 'bullshitese".
Plenty of obvious ways to go after Biden or HRC.
The limitations have run out on Biden that was back in 2008 to 2017 is over 7yrs! This is all about the Born Criminal trump
Woa quid pro quo is what politicians seek all the time....
Biden’s better watch out!!!!!
Biden time has Run out after 7yrs and that was back in 2008 time run out 2017 !
We need to pray for our country an growerment if fromer president trumps become president again
Stumpy Trumpy
Trump directing troops!!!😰😰😱😱😱
It’s not what you think. From personal experience. Trump was way better than Obama.
Bush was the best.
Bush is an underrated boss. When he threw that first pitch at the Yankees game after 9/11 man that was something else everyone was United maybe we need another 9/11 which is probably gonna happen cause Biden lets anyone in the country then everyone will be united against Biden and democrats and the Democratic Party will finally die
The Born Criminal trump tried to! This is all about Trump. The statue of limitations run out on Biden 2008 to 2017 Biden is Free and Clear of any charges
immunity in directing the military, what if he gives a unlawful order, like killing innocent people, just where is the line on that? because that is a war crime. and now you say he has immunity for war crimes?
What is wrong with you? Can only imagine who you have been listening to.
This exact question was brought up by a Justice a few days ago because of an Obama air strike. The current attorney arguing on the Government's side said the President has immunity for that. His entire argument always comes to his own opinion that Trump wasn't acting as a President, but was acting as a Candidate.
@@p.lyskawa2651 air strike vs storm strike, now which wasn't acting like a president,
Bingo this is all about the Born Criminal trump! Because the Time run out on Biden 2008 to 2017 is over 7yrs
The idoit we have in there right now can’t make Rational decision
The Born Criminal we had in there before is going to Prison for Life!
Ok back Donald J Trump not ok work vote 2024
???
Try that again, please. This time in understandable English.
Just throwing words together you sound like Karinge Jean Pierre or, God forbid, joke biden.
I can't listen to this bs anymore
Vote Trump.
Never gonna Happen he’ll be serving Life in prison Period
I'm glad she brought this up, Presidents do not have immunity they have to follow law too
😅😂🤣🥲😅😂 The Born Criminal will be Serving Life in Prison! The Limitation of time run out on Biden 2008 to 2017 is 7yrs there talking about Trump
Stick to the topics of Trump's indictments? What he did that was not a presidential act .
Stop with the world salad.
I’m sure you’ll be fine with your boy Biden being prosecuted for taking classified documents home as a Senator, then.
Did the Senate convict him of anything? If not, then it is by definition an official act.
Talking about Biden listen closely
Is this the 1st time you've listened to Supreme Court cases? Hypotheticals are the most common things asked by the Justices because the decision precedent for the future. This isn't a trial.
When was Trump bribed?
President Trump is Being true !!!
Sounds as if she's fishing for ways to cover Biden & Co. in future actions.
She's basically telling him that he's inadvertently opening the door for Biden to be charged if he's unable to be reinstalled.
That was in 2008 to 2017 the limitation of time is run out of Biden 7yrs 2017 was the last chance! This is about the Born Criminal trump
Witch Hunt.