As much as I don't like the films' depiction of Denathor, I do like that they showed Boromir and Faramir sharing a much closer bond. I especially liked how Boromir immediately tries to give credit to Faramir for their victory; something which in the books Denathor would have readily accepted.
I think there are multiple reasons for why Denethor favors Boromir 1) Denethor's wife, Finduilas, never recovered from giving birth to Faramir and regrettably Denethor was reminded of that whenever he saw Faramir. 2) Boromir was the dutiful son, willing to do as his father asked while Faramir was more like his father and willing to push back when he thought Denethor was wrong. 3) Denethor was always suspicious of Gandalf and mistrusted Faramir's willingness to learn from the wizard. 4) When Denethor was still growing up included the period of time when Aragorn as Thorongil served under Ecthelion. His father's admiration of Thorongil made Denethor envious and when Faramir, who in many ways was like Aragorn came along, it was another strike against the younger son. Denethor was basically a good man but a very hard one and with some major character flaws.
I forget whether this line is actually in the book, but in the FoTR film when Boromir retorts to Legolas at the Council of Elrond, "Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king," it seems to me that these were the words of Denethor drilled into him from a young age, which he was parroting back.
You left out that in the last few years of his life, Denethor had been using the Palintir to look at Sauron. And that Sauron had infected him. Sauron likely saw Faramir as the more dangerous enemy and so pushed Denethor away from him.
Exactly. Denethor had been battling Sauron psychologically for years, which no man could hope to prevail. Unfortunately, this isn't shown at all in the films. Aragorn used the Palantir once and it messed with his mind. Denethor had been using it for years.
Not exactly a Denethor comment, but between these movies and the Elementary and Fringe TV series, John Noble is in serious running for the “worst screen dad” award. Which is really a shame, because I’ve heard he’s a really nice guy IRL.
It’s kinda funny how some of the best tv/movie villains are played by actors who are big teddy bears and how some heroes are played by massive @$$holes. 😁
I got the impression that Denethor was a narcissistic father. Boromir was the “golden child”. Faramir was the “scapegoat”. Nothing Faramir accomplished was ever going to be good enough for Denethor as how scapegoat children are treated by narcissistic parents.
The thing is that Denethor remembered Aragon from when he Aragon was a captain in Denethor's father Ecthelion's army. Denethor saw a real Numenorean and what he resented in Faramir was that Faramir reminded him of Westerness lost
Faramir: You wish now that our places had been exchanged - that I had died and Boromir had lived. Denethor: Yes. I wish that. Faramir: Since you were robbed of Boromir, I will do what I can in his stead. If I should return, think better of me, Father. Denethor: That will depend on the manner of your return.
I always had a suspicion that Denethor's treatment of Farmier had to do with the death of his mother. Since there seemed to be quite an age gap between Farmier and Boamir. Denethor must have greatly loved his wife if he blamed his younger son for her death. His unforgiveness towards Farmier led to his madness and ultimately to his death. With the threat of Mordor and Sauron gone by the end of Return of the King I'm sure Farmier became Aragorn's right hand man and a great Stewart.
In the books, Aragorn names Faramir Prince of Ithilien and one of the two commanders-in-chief of his armies. The other was a Gondorian soldier named Imrahil, who's not in the films but plays a significant role in the books. Also, something not shown in the films is Denathor's use of a Palantir, which contributed greatly to his madness. He'd been battling Sauron psychologically, while their armies clashed over a period of years. Denathor was very strong in the mind, but no man, not even Aragorn, could hope to win a psychological war against a Maiar.
Some real Tywin/Tyrion Lannister complications in that idea for sure. I like it. It doesn’t make Denethor suck any less, but at least it gives it some really complex relatability or understanding why he is the way he is.
@@gavelston3943 Did you just say an LOTR plot point is remiscent of GoT on an LOTR video? Who do you think that ripoff GRR got his plot points from? Lmao
It’s really unfortunate that we see so little of Boromir’s character while NOT under the influence of the ring. We’re told time and time again that he’s a great and valiant man and we get to see that side of him trying to shine through for the best, but I bet his character would’ve appeared and acted MUCH wiser if the ring didn’t have the overwhelming powers on Men that is has. I think, in a “normal” situation, Boromir would’ve been MUCH more level headed and similar to Faramir. Not that I think he’s be AS level as Faramir. There’s too much Denethor in Boromir for him to have been able to tame his intensity and passions completely and to be more or less constantly calm and appraising, like Faramir. It’s a shame because a lot of the Boromir we actually get to experience first hand in real time as the story unfolds is actually rather annoying, negative, pushy and hard headed. Sure, he may have had concerns about their paths even if the ring didn’t affect him - ALL of them had concerns. It was a dangerous journey - but I bet he would’ve been so much more of a team player and optimistic if the ring didn’t have its grip on him. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see his valiance and all of the hype that springs up around him whenever people talk about how great he was.
I never liked how Denethor treated Faramir like he was worthless and nothing compared to Boromir. His poor treatment and disregard of poor Faramir is one of the reasons why I never liked Denethor at all.
It’s so tragic to because you see Boromir wishing his brother would be given credit. How he says “can he not give us a moment of peace.” So often we see how because a toxic parent only loves one kid, that kid also becomes toxic. But here we see something different and it’s so refreshing to see. It also makes Boromirs death all the more tragic. Faramir has lost his brother, probably one of the few that truly cared for him. Who’s he supposed to consult these feelings with, his father? He can’t do it with his men, they’re to busy fighting a war. I know it’s morbid to think about, but maybe that’s why he accepted the suicide mission from his father so willingly.
…2:32, I believe Denethor was driven to think that Gandalf wanted Aragon to usurp the throne by Saruman.. Love the channel, how it’s grown and (if it helps) wanted to let you know that you’re super crushing it..!
He favoured boromir over faramir as you said boromir was sword thinker and faramir was smarter who did all his studies and learned the lore of world and the palantir didn’t help denethor’s emotions as sauron screwed his mind as well as making him age prematurely
I think part of it also was that Faramir reminded him of himself when he was younger. Boromir had the love of the people that Denethor did not. Boromir is who he wished he was and so praised him on a pedestal.
I got the impression denethor's dislike of faramir stemmed from jealousy. It's made clear in the books that in faramir, some of the wisdom and grimness of the old kings lives on. A bit like Aragorn but more diluted. Denethor recognises the Numinorian traits apparent In faramir but instead of celebrating them he tries to push them down while simultaneously raising the traits of his brother. Who is brave and valiant, but lacks the wisdom, patience and understanding that faramir possesses. Denethor resents the line of kings while also secretly wishing he was one. So I believe it's a combination of resentment and jealousy towards the kingliness present in faramir
Compared to the books, the films really did dirty by Denathor, making him an inept, one-dimensional prick with no redeeming qualities. He had more than enough screen time that they could have explored his far more complicated relationship with Faramir. Heck, they don't even show his use of the Palantir, which he'd been using to conduct direct psychological warfare against Sauron. This went on for years, and it is a testament to Denathor's mental strength that he did not break much sooner. Heck, Aragorn used the Palantir once to openly declare himself to Sauron and that took its toll.
I think an obvious reason for Denethor preferring Boromir is that he was his first-born son and heir. For most men, the birth of your first son may be the single biggest moment of your life. And Boromir grew into a son that virtually any father would be extremely proud of so he never gave Denethor cause to turn away from what would have been his natural preference. I would also point out that Gandalf says that Denethor loves Boromir partly because they are very different. Where the father is a master of lore, Boromir is a man of action. I'm going to assume that Gandalf knows what he was talking about because he pretty much always did.
The line of inheritance. Denethor considers himself King. Need I say more from the author? Tolkien has always had a bit of his own thoughts now. Even more the years that he wrote this there was a very big change of the guard in English history.
David Wenham is still pretty awesome, but yeah, who doesn't love Sean Bean? Heck, when the films came out my Mum said she wished he'd been cast as Aragorn! 😆
It sucks that Faramir & Boramir weren't seen as a bad ass army of two? Brains & Bronze. It would have been better if the brothers were both apart of the fellowship.
No he isn't, Gandalf himself says it and even Tom says something about his power for example he cannot control the weather and he isn't the master of nazgul when he defeats the spirit of barrow-down.
@@oscurosignore8026 But Tom could not be dominated by anything. The One Ring had no affect on him. Gandalf refused to take the One Ring from Frodo because he feared how it might affect him. Gandalf couldn't control the One Ring. Would 't that make Tom more powerful? Just curious.
@@briansd2772 nobody can dominates Tom but he can be destroyed, yes the one ring can't corrupts him, but Tom can't break the power of the ring that it has to the other beings. Other thing he can't control the weather (Tom says this in the last page of the chapter "in the house of Tom bombadil") when Sauron, Osse, The witch King, Saruman can do this. When the Hobbits are in tom's home, the feeling of time isn't the same of the World, but in Lothlorien the hobbits don't feel the flow of the time, so even Galadriel with her ring is more powerful than Tom. Maybe Tom is the more powerful because he had no ambitions and no desires, so for his personality, but in terms of raw power Sauron, Gandalf, Saruman and Galadriel are more powerful.
I understand what you are trying to say, and I think that you are not worng, however you circumframe an important point, which you however do not clearly name. Faramir is indeed more like to his father than Boromir is. And this likenes, this "air of Numenor" which both have, is their main point of conflict. I do not even think that Denethor only saw hope in strength and therefore prefered Boromir over Faramir, the latter of both does not love the sword for his brightness. Remember Denethor did not have real hope. The black thoughts entered his mind via the Palantir. Denethor saw strength and battle as the only way to perish honerably (before he fully cracked) And in this mindset Boromir was closer to him. He was like the Rohirrim. He valued strength and accordingly was his fathers hope on providing the honerable end. Faramir refused desperation until tje very end, where the black shadow (black breath) finaly reached through to him. All your reasons are valid and true. However I do not think that they are at the utter core of their conflicted relationship.
Two things strike me when watching: (1) The idea that Denethor favoured "brute strength" is pretty risible; he was probably the sharpest military and strategic mind in Middle Earth and (2) wtf are those Disney-eye uncanny valley monstrosities representing Faramir and Denethor (e.g. 4:18)?
What-if video idea for you to do: What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Denethor is a little stinky guy! How could he!? He so toxic and idc if he did " love him" he surely didn't show it whiched caused faramir to feel un loved. Great video!!!! Love it! Goo video after a terrible week
Is this why he would refuse to believe he was still alive when pippin would try and tell him after he was injured....and also maybe why he wanted to burn his body with him....kinda like If I die then I don't want a son who would rule so different form me ruling at all
If Boromir was the better warrior and could defend Gondor better than Faramir, in Denethor's eyes, why did Denethor send Boromir instead of Faramir on that very long dangerous journey to Rivendell?
In the books it was Boromir who made the decision to go, not Denethor. It also had nothing to do with the One Ring, but with a pair of prophetic dreams both brothers had had. Boromir only wanted to get advice from Elrond on what it meant. He had no idea that the Ring had been found. Also, he didn't know it was called Isildur's Bane until the Council of Elrond.
Faramir at 6 years old: "I dont think I like tomatoes very much"
Denethor: "Bring wood and oil."
Regarding the opening of this video, I fully accept the headcanon that Denethor's preference annoyed Boromir as much as it hurt Faramir.
It's a reasonable headcanon, since we're told he was protective of Faramir and regarded him highly.
As much as I don't like the films' depiction of Denathor, I do like that they showed Boromir and Faramir sharing a much closer bond. I especially liked how Boromir immediately tries to give credit to Faramir for their victory; something which in the books Denathor would have readily accepted.
It was portrayed as much in the movies at least, was my interpretation anyway.
I think there are multiple reasons for why Denethor favors Boromir
1) Denethor's wife, Finduilas, never recovered from giving birth to Faramir and regrettably Denethor was reminded of that whenever he saw Faramir.
2) Boromir was the dutiful son, willing to do as his father asked while Faramir was more like his father and willing to push back when he thought Denethor was wrong.
3) Denethor was always suspicious of Gandalf and mistrusted Faramir's willingness to learn from the wizard.
4) When Denethor was still growing up included the period of time when Aragorn as Thorongil served under Ecthelion. His father's admiration of Thorongil made Denethor envious and when Faramir, who in many ways was like Aragorn came along, it was another strike against the younger son.
Denethor was basically a good man but a very hard one and with some major character flaws.
Also, it was stated Aragorn looked a lot like denethor and Faramir also looked like Denethor. Maybe he always see Aragorn in him which he hates.
I forget whether this line is actually in the book, but in the FoTR film when Boromir retorts to Legolas at the Council of Elrond, "Gondor has no king. Gondor needs no king," it seems to me that these were the words of Denethor drilled into him from a young age, which he was parroting back.
You left out that in the last few years of his life, Denethor had been using the Palintir to look at Sauron. And that Sauron had infected him. Sauron likely saw Faramir as the more dangerous enemy and so pushed Denethor away from him.
Exactly. Denethor had been battling Sauron psychologically for years, which no man could hope to prevail. Unfortunately, this isn't shown at all in the films. Aragorn used the Palantir once and it messed with his mind. Denethor had been using it for years.
One thing we can say.
Boromir loved and respected his brother and protected his brother.
Boromir was a good brother...
Is* 😭
Not exactly a Denethor comment, but between these movies and the Elementary and Fringe TV series, John Noble is in serious running for the “worst screen dad” award. Which is really a shame, because I’ve heard he’s a really nice guy IRL.
It’s kinda funny how some of the best tv/movie villains are played by actors who are big teddy bears and how some heroes are played by massive @$$holes.
😁
@@patrickstewart3446 I am now imagining Tobey Maguire as green goblin.
He also reprises his neglectful father role in that devil made me do it horror movie
If you add Sleepy Hollow, he's in the running for "worst screen son" as well.
I got the impression that Denethor was a narcissistic father. Boromir was the “golden child”. Faramir was the “scapegoat”. Nothing Faramir accomplished was ever going to be good enough for Denethor as how scapegoat children are treated by narcissistic parents.
If Eowyn ever catches sight of how Faramir was neglected, then imagine who knows what might be of him.
The thing is that Denethor remembered Aragon from when he Aragon was a captain in Denethor's father Ecthelion's army. Denethor saw a real Numenorean and what he resented in Faramir was that Faramir reminded him of Westerness lost
Possibly.
It said the blood of numenor ran true in faramir and boromir though Dunedain was more like the men of middle earth
Faramir: You wish now that our places had been exchanged - that I had died and Boromir had lived.
Denethor: Yes. I wish that.
Faramir: Since you were robbed of Boromir, I will do what I can in his stead. If I should return, think better of me, Father.
Denethor: That will depend on the manner of your return.
Whenever I see Denethor I think, evil Walter Bishop.
Obviously this sad type of "fringe" joke went above everyones head. John noble is a great actor.
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I didn't catch it until your Comment.
I didn't watch the entire series only sporadic episodes.
Walter Bishop is evil Walter Bishop
I always had a suspicion that Denethor's treatment of Farmier had to do with the death of his mother. Since there seemed to be quite an age gap between Farmier and Boamir. Denethor must have greatly loved his wife if he blamed his younger son for her death. His unforgiveness towards Farmier led to his madness and ultimately to his death. With the threat of Mordor and Sauron gone by the end of Return of the King I'm sure Farmier became Aragorn's right hand man and a great Stewart.
Totally.
Him and imrahil would be be his right and left hands.
In the books, Aragorn names Faramir Prince of Ithilien and one of the two commanders-in-chief of his armies. The other was a Gondorian soldier named Imrahil, who's not in the films but plays a significant role in the books. Also, something not shown in the films is Denathor's use of a Palantir, which contributed greatly to his madness. He'd been battling Sauron psychologically, while their armies clashed over a period of years. Denathor was very strong in the mind, but no man, not even Aragorn, could hope to win a psychological war against a Maiar.
Some real Tywin/Tyrion Lannister complications in that idea for sure. I like it. It doesn’t make Denethor suck any less, but at least it gives it some really complex relatability or understanding why he is the way he is.
@@gavelston3943 Did you just say an LOTR plot point is remiscent of GoT on an LOTR video?
Who do you think that ripoff GRR got his plot points from? Lmao
@@efreshwater5 it was just a comparison… some people do better with examples. I’m well aware Tolkien is The Godfather here
It’s really unfortunate that we see so little of Boromir’s character while NOT under the influence of the ring. We’re told time and time again that he’s a great and valiant man and we get to see that side of him trying to shine through for the best, but I bet his character would’ve appeared and acted MUCH wiser if the ring didn’t have the overwhelming powers on Men that is has. I think, in a “normal” situation, Boromir would’ve been MUCH more level headed and similar to Faramir. Not that I think he’s be AS level as Faramir. There’s too much Denethor in Boromir for him to have been able to tame his intensity and passions completely and to be more or less constantly calm and appraising, like Faramir. It’s a shame because a lot of the Boromir we actually get to experience first hand in real time as the story unfolds is actually rather annoying, negative, pushy and hard headed. Sure, he may have had concerns about their paths even if the ring didn’t affect him - ALL of them had concerns. It was a dangerous journey - but I bet he would’ve been so much more of a team player and optimistic if the ring didn’t have its grip on him. It’s a shame we didn’t get to see his valiance and all of the hype that springs up around him whenever people talk about how great he was.
I never liked how Denethor treated Faramir like he was worthless and nothing compared to Boromir. His poor treatment and disregard of poor Faramir is one of the reasons why I never liked Denethor at all.
It’s so tragic to because you see Boromir wishing his brother would be given credit. How he says “can he not give us a moment of peace.” So often we see how because a toxic parent only loves one kid, that kid also becomes toxic. But here we see something different and it’s so refreshing to see. It also makes Boromirs death all the more tragic. Faramir has lost his brother, probably one of the few that truly cared for him.
Who’s he supposed to consult these feelings with, his father? He can’t do it with his men, they’re to busy fighting a war. I know it’s morbid to think about, but maybe that’s why he accepted the suicide mission from his father so willingly.
In the movies, I wish Faramir's character would've been more like the book's version.
I agree. He was a lot wiser and more gentle in the books.
@@DeepikaGinger in my opinion the movies did a good job in portraying Faramir
@@thezord6686 Not in Two Towers
@@DeepikaGinger my comment includes the two towers. Screenrant even said the change was for the better for Faramir.
@@thezord6686 Well, everyone’s entitled to their own opinion. If you were able to appreciate his characterisation, then good for you.
This channel is incredible!
You should make a video in what if Faramir took the One Ring from Frodo?
To quote a very good friend of mine: "Denethor can go sit on a cactus"
Wise friend
Why didn't the line of stewards claim the kingship of Gondor? They already claim leadership.
Excellent video!
Faramir liked books and music and hung about with Mithrandir, studying lore. Denethor saw this as weakenss compared to Boromir.
…2:32, I believe Denethor was driven to think that Gandalf wanted Aragon to usurp the throne by Saruman..
Love the channel, how it’s grown and (if it helps) wanted to let you know that you’re super crushing it..!
He favoured boromir over faramir as you said boromir was sword thinker and faramir was smarter who did all his studies and learned the lore of world and the palantir didn’t help denethor’s emotions as sauron screwed his mind as well as making him age prematurely
Awesome video denethor is a sad character more than a evil man except to those tomatoes 🍅
Death of his wife, Faramir's friendship with Gandalf and death of Boromir are the main reasons for his intolerance i suppose.
I think part of it also was that Faramir reminded him of himself when he was younger. Boromir had the love of the people that Denethor did not. Boromir is who he wished he was and so praised him on a pedestal.
I got the impression denethor's dislike of faramir stemmed from jealousy. It's made clear in the books that in faramir, some of the wisdom and grimness of the old kings lives on. A bit like Aragorn but more diluted. Denethor recognises the Numinorian traits apparent In faramir but instead of celebrating them he tries to push them down while simultaneously raising the traits of his brother. Who is brave and valiant, but lacks the wisdom, patience and understanding that faramir possesses. Denethor resents the line of kings while also secretly wishing he was one. So I believe it's a combination of resentment and jealousy towards the kingliness present in faramir
Compared to the books, the films really did dirty by Denathor, making him an inept, one-dimensional prick with no redeeming qualities. He had more than enough screen time that they could have explored his far more complicated relationship with Faramir. Heck, they don't even show his use of the Palantir, which he'd been using to conduct direct psychological warfare against Sauron. This went on for years, and it is a testament to Denathor's mental strength that he did not break much sooner. Heck, Aragorn used the Palantir once to openly declare himself to Sauron and that took its toll.
I think an obvious reason for Denethor preferring Boromir is that he was his first-born son and heir. For most men, the birth of your first son may be the single biggest moment of your life. And Boromir grew into a son that virtually any father would be extremely proud of so he never gave Denethor cause to turn away from what would have been his natural preference.
I would also point out that Gandalf says that Denethor loves Boromir partly because they are very different. Where the father is a master of lore, Boromir is a man of action. I'm going to assume that Gandalf knows what he was talking about because he pretty much always did.
Wasnt it described in the appendices that faramir reminds him of Finduilas ? That’s why denethor couldn’t look at his second son?
The kinder, gentler Denethor freaked me out when I encountered him in the HoME. Never thought I'd be relieved when he started acting like a jerk. 🤣
That was a good answer but I also love Boromir the most.
Why do you prefer boromir over faramir?
I love this channel it's great.
The line of inheritance. Denethor considers himself King. Need I say more from the author? Tolkien has always had a bit of his own thoughts now. Even more the years that he wrote this there was a very big change of the guard in English history.
Because his son was Sean bean anyone would prefer that
David Wenham is still pretty awesome, but yeah, who doesn't love Sean Bean? Heck, when the films came out my Mum said she wished he'd been cast as Aragorn! 😆
It sucks that Faramir & Boramir weren't seen as a bad ass army of two? Brains & Bronze. It would have been better if the brothers were both apart of the fellowship.
Was Tom Bombadil the most powerful entity in Middle Earth?
No he isn't, Gandalf himself says it and even Tom says something about his power for example he cannot control the weather and he isn't the master of nazgul when he defeats the spirit of barrow-down.
@@oscurosignore8026 But Tom could not be dominated by anything. The One Ring had no affect on him. Gandalf refused to take the One Ring from Frodo because he feared how it might affect him. Gandalf couldn't control the One Ring. Would 't that make Tom more powerful? Just curious.
@@briansd2772 nobody can dominates Tom but he can be destroyed, yes the one ring can't corrupts him, but Tom can't break the power of the ring that it has to the other beings.
Other thing he can't control the weather (Tom says this in the last page of the chapter "in the house of Tom bombadil") when Sauron, Osse, The witch King, Saruman can do this.
When the Hobbits are in tom's home, the feeling of time isn't the same of the World, but in Lothlorien the hobbits don't feel the flow of the time, so even Galadriel with her ring is more powerful than Tom.
Maybe Tom is the more powerful because he had no ambitions and no desires, so for his personality, but in terms of raw power Sauron, Gandalf, Saruman and Galadriel are more powerful.
I understand what you are trying to say, and I think that you are not worng, however you circumframe an important point, which you however do not clearly name. Faramir is indeed more like to his father than Boromir is. And this likenes, this "air of Numenor" which both have, is their main point of conflict.
I do not even think that Denethor only saw hope in strength and therefore prefered Boromir over Faramir, the latter of both does not love the sword for his brightness. Remember Denethor did not have real hope. The black thoughts entered his mind via the Palantir.
Denethor saw strength and battle as the only way to perish honerably (before he fully cracked)
And in this mindset Boromir was closer to him. He was like the Rohirrim. He valued strength and accordingly was his fathers hope on providing the honerable end.
Faramir refused desperation until tje very end, where the black shadow (black breath) finaly reached through to him.
All your reasons are valid and true. However I do not think that they are at the utter core of their conflicted relationship.
cool vid Jake enjoyed it
Thanks! :)
Two things strike me when watching: (1) The idea that Denethor favoured "brute strength" is pretty risible; he was probably the sharpest military and strategic mind in Middle Earth and (2) wtf are those Disney-eye uncanny valley monstrosities representing Faramir and Denethor (e.g. 4:18)?
What-if video idea for you to do:
What if Gandalf never fell at the Bridge of Khazad-dum and continued with the fellowship to Lothlorien and on forward?
Even for me it is for jealousy, because Faramir his like Denethor when Boromir obeys the orders of the father.
The true reason is because Faramir never had a chance to prove his worth
Hey guys, are most of your videos re-uploads from History of the Ages? Do you identify which ones are and which knew are new somewhere?
I like this video length
Denethor is a little stinky guy! How could he!? He so toxic and idc if he did " love him" he surely didn't show it whiched caused faramir to feel un loved. Great video!!!! Love it! Goo video after a terrible week
Is this why he would refuse to believe he was still alive when pippin would try and tell him after he was injured....and also maybe why he wanted to burn his body with him....kinda like If I die then I don't want a son who would rule so different form me ruling at all
Parents bruh 😢
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If Boromir was the better warrior and could defend Gondor better than Faramir, in Denethor's eyes, why did Denethor send Boromir instead of Faramir on that very long dangerous journey to Rivendell?
In the books it was Boromir who made the decision to go, not Denethor. It also had nothing to do with the One Ring, but with a pair of prophetic dreams both brothers had had. Boromir only wanted to get advice from Elrond on what it meant. He had no idea that the Ring had been found. Also, he didn't know it was called Isildur's Bane until the Council of Elrond.
He liked him cause he was most like him.
Because Boromir was the one who would not fail him, duh.
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