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I am a 66 year old, solo, female RVer. I carry and don't talk about it. I also put a big pair of boots outside my door, keep a rolling pin handy and I have a good watch dog. These and other things make up my arsenal. Thank you for this video!
Awesome tips
If you havent yet; bear spray is a good choice as well.
A police officer told me to keep hornet spray, has a long range and stings lol
Great advice and smart keeping your self safe
Never never never . i hate guns.
Two wolves and a lamb vote on what to eat for dinner... A well armed lamb is necessary to be safe and contest the votes! Think about this story....
Afterthought...let's not forget that it's not just "people" we could possibly need to protect ourselves from, there are also a multitude of animals in many of these remote places that we should also keep in mind. Great video, very informative and very funny at the same time, John you have a keeper there! Stay well get some sleep LOL
Great point!
Exactly!
Agreed.
But it is the two-legged type that walks upright, that is the most dangerous.
Exactly, I more worried about predators then I am people. I carry and have my CTC
Lol
Animals
Retired LEO and I always carry! Wife has her CHL and carries as well. I'm all for everyone who is mentally stable and properly trained to carry. All 4 of my kids have been raised around, taught to respect and learned to treat every gun as if it's loaded. The more kids are around firearms, the less they are to be curious in handling them when the parents aren't around.
The first think I did with my boys was take them to the range had them point and fire their toy guns ! Then they watched mom fire her gun and it made a huge impact and they NEVER touched my guns ! They are also adults now and have had gun safety training since 6 years of age and are both sharp shooters ! Knowledge is what we can give to our children ! Safe Travels ❤
Who determines who’s mentally stable? If I hate you or you offend me I can call up law inforcement and thanks to red flag laws, with arbitrary means of measuring instability, and no due process, now you have no gun and it’s a huge hassle to clear your name. Sorry to go off like a mentally unstable person 😆but that criteria pisses me off. Trump and Biden are both clearly on record supporting red flag laws.
@@adventurealley4151 all red flag laws as currently written are unconstitutional. The right to carry is the second amendment for a reason.
My grandpa was a LEO and he taught me that the “don’t bring a knife to a gunfight” saying is dangerous. Sometimes the knife is a quicker, deadlier weapon than a guy with a gun, particularly if it’s in a holster. Just always be humble about the threat.
Nice reply Brother, also a retired LEO. Good-by tension Hello pension
It doesn’t matter if your in a good part of town or bad, crime can happen anywhere
USCCA has a great app for showing you where and how your home CCW is honored.
Yep. Was going to post that until I read down a little.
Love their app just think it’s pricey
Worth the $ price for CCW!
Thanks for the info. We have talked about this very subject in several videos. As a current LEO it’s an important topic that can land you in expensive legal trouble very quickly.
Thanks for sharing!
Stay out of the State of New York if you carry
@@tarrantcountykid and NJ.
@@tarrantcountykid And DC, CA, WA to just add a few more… we were surprised to learn that our home state TN honors WA ccp… but.. WA doesn’t honor our’s!
When my first wife and I were dating, she cried the first time she saw my guns. But she decided if she had to live with them when we got married she needed to make friends with them. I took her to an indoor range to shoot and gave her some of the basics. I then enrolled her in a basic firearms class that was offered by that range. She came home from the class feeling EMPOWERED (and shooting more accurately than me!) The state I live in no longer requires a permit to carry concealed or open though the permit is still available (for reciprocity purposes). I have mixed feelings on "permitless carry". I don't think you should have to have a permit to exercise a constitutional right, BUT, with no permit requirement there really is no incentive to get the proper training (most people won't unless it is absolutely required unfortunately). The most important part of training is the legalities of when using the firearm is genuinely self defense and when it is not. Marksmanship is also important. A firearm is useless unless you know when it is appropriate to use it and it's useless if you can't hit your target. It's also useless in the hands of someone who is not comfortable handling and firing it.
I live in Oklahoma.
I have personally introduced more than one lady to firearms. Always by their choice, of course. I can relate to your wife feeling empowered by her new found comfort as I have witnessed the same many times. Some felt more than empowered, if you get my drift! 😁
CHEERS! 🇱🇷
Great post! Thank you Tom
“Shall not be infringed”, unless mentally ill. IMHO. Thugs have no issue will acquiring and using. Be smart and be safe. Avoid confrontation at all times, but be prepared.
When "questioning the integrity of an election" is a sign of mental illness... I'd like to just stick with *"Shall not be infringed."*
The British labeled our founding fathers as mentally ill for wanting to make decisions for themselves.
Thank you very much for breaching this subject in a helpful, responsible and realistic manner! 👍
I have been carrying daily for most of my adult life and have actually been in a situation where I had to use my firearm to defend myself from a man who stabbed me during an attempted robbery. He gave me no warning or option to comply.
It is a sad fact that there is currently no way for the average citizen to legally carry a firearm in all 50 states, even in an RV. Be aware of the laws in each state and, if there is a chance that you will be in violation, AVOID THAT STATE!
*If you don't feel comfortable using a firearm, don't. Take measures to get yourself comfortable or avoid them altogether.
*If you choose to carry, only carry on your person. Never in a purse, bag or fanny pack.
*Never show someone your firearm until you are ready to shoot them.
*If you must shoot someone, keep shooting them until they run away or stop moving altogether.
And by all means, once the threat is over stop shooting. Never chase
down the assailant, never shoot if in retreat. Some stinking comme DA
might have you convicted
@@mark98070 Yep, that too! There are some overzealous DAs out there, to be certain.
Though not yet an RVer, I've watched a bunch of your videos. This one is the best. Thanks for having the courage to address this controversial issue. FWIW, I share your perspective completely.
I’ve never had another RVer or camper ask me if I carry. If they ever do, I would never tell them I do or don’t. I would consider that kind of question a red flag and probably relocate as soon as possible.
We get it. I would never ask a stranger that question. Our security situation is not typical due to our media presence. We only camp with our Friends now (people we know)
I carry and I’m proud of it. I gotta protect my family and my home!! 💯
Amen Neenah
You go lady!!! I do too, and I’m so happy to learn of other women who do!
There is a TV showed titled "I Survived". About half of the stories are about women and men who get assaulted or abducted. In almost every case a firearm would have stopped a lot of suffering and often death. A gun is a tool for survival, much like a fire extinguisher, a first aid kit and proper clothing. Be prepared! Great video.
Training starts way before you go to the range. Safety and being comfortable with the gun and how it works.
Have to be comfortable with any self defense you use.
John i agree with you 100%. We have law shield and we call before we travel to see what is allowed in each state. An actual attorney is who calls you back. Totally worth it.
The only time John shouldnt carry a gun is when Mercedes calls him a Yankee lol.
Most cases you can’t tell they are carrying. So nothing to be afraid of.
Where is he from?
😂
@@imout671 Boston
There is very little I am willing to lay down my life for: strangers feelings is not one of them.
"There is very little I am willing to lay down my life for" -That's the new American way.
My husband and I took 2 , 4 day sessions of concealed carry and gun safety classes Best thing I ever did I’m not afraid of my guns or afraid to use it The world is a scarey place I have the right to protect myself
Mercedes your description of first time firing weapons is hilarious.
My husband and I both carry for safety. We also both hunt for food.
Amen! Us both too!
when I gave up hunting I gave up my weapons, until 2 years ago was robed x2 police did nothing even with plate #'s I went got a 9mm for protection moved to safer area. With open border reports mass dumps of people in Houston. So glad I got it. my roommate also has membership to a range to keep safety on handling them
The subject of this video is the reason my truck/fifth wheel will NEVER touch California, New York, or New Jersey.
Don’t forget DC lol
This is a great topic - i am from a "blue state" however when our children were of age (as did a lot of folks in this area at the time did) - we had them go threw the hunter safety courses that were offered to them - neither of them hunt - just thought they should learn about fire arm safety - since it is so prevalent . to me this has nothing to do with politics - just common sense, there is nothing to lose by learning, you handled the subject eloquently .
I drive a semi over the road and I know a lot of truckers carry. I always assumed rvers would too.
They do 🇺🇸
@@RVOddCouple I don’t blame them I hope someone who doesn’t maybe like guns sees this and realizes it really is the best tool to have to protect yourself. It’s highly unlikely they ever need to use it but I’ve spent all my childhood in and out of baby jail and it continued into my mid twenties, So drawing off that experience and now my ten years driving all over the country for a living I think the majority of people are good people even the ones we briefly encounter and seem like total jerks . But I’ve met and sometimes even celled with people that don’t have any empathy and are just wired in a way that they don’t see hurting someone for something they want being wrong. And they are out here among us. And if one sees your expense rv and decides you have a lot of money you’ll be happy you have something to protect yourself with.
I regret I have only one “like” to give. Great job!
The example of the person that didn’t want a gun because being afraid it would be used against her. There is training for that.
“Firearms Retention “ training is awesome. They will also teach you how to disarm someone.
Great video! I agree everyone should carry! I have my conceiled carry as well. One has to be ready and keep safe. There are many young women and senior women traveling alone, having a fire arm could save your life. Yes it's important to have several modes of protection. But knowing firing a gun at a perpetrator will do what bear spray can not! Stop them dead in their tracks! Another thing having an emergency locator if you go to any remote area with no phone signal. Very important!
Former Deputy (17 years) before that I managed a high end Gun Dept., even as a Deputy I had a FFL for eight years. I am in agreement with Mercedes....not everyone should own or are capable of owning a firearm. Mercedes hits a home run again with "reciprocity" with States honoring each other's Firearm & Carry privileges.John made me chuckle about scoping out your area.....in a restaurant to this day I still have to sit with a wall behind me LOL. John when going through Illinois your firearm can not be in reach.
Suggestions:
When handgun shopping.......go revolver: at 2AM half asleep, no safety to fumble with, unlike a semi auto pistol a revolver will not jam. Stay reasonable in size: a .357 will go through several neighboring trailers before stopping. Buy the handgun that best fits your hand.....benefit of a revolver. There is actually a .38 Lady Smith for women, small grip.
The best security gun for trailer parks is a .410 shotgun: you won't "probably" kill your neighbor with a round going through 3 or 4 trailer walls. PLUS the "racking sound" will deter most criminal types.
Besides learning how to use it: practice, practice, practice!
Next get a "umbrella" insurance policy. "Ole John Criminal" who probably didn't do a good thing in his life will turn into "Saint John" by his family who will try to sue you. My policy is One Million Dollars for $180.00 annually.
REMEMBER: you aim to kill, not to incapacitate.
FOR those going to Alaska: Don't even begin to try to cross through Canada with a firearm. It will be seized at the border, possibly along with your vehicle, can end in arrest.
Google how to ship your firearms to yourself in Alaska.
Mercedes & John....great video! Love you guys,stay safe, God Bless!!
Great tips as usual Richard. Thank you 😊
Some good points but I totally disagree on the "racking sound". It may deter "most" criminals but if that criminal is one who is prepared, racking that shotgun will likely be the last thing you ever do as it will take up valuable time. ALWAYS keep one in the pipe! Also, never say you aimed to kill as that could seriously go against you in the courtroom. You fired to stop the threat.
@@drewpodnar4784 Good discussion.
The reason I said "you aim to kill, not to incapacitate" is that there are some who think you can shoot them in the arm or shoot the gun out of their hands to stop them. If you're not able to shoot to kill don't carry.
Any Officer will tell you the same thing. Three center mass. It's amazing how many rounds it can take to put someone down for good. One of my co-Officers was actually a FBI Sniper Instructor. They trained with their rifle which part of the head to aim for.
As far as not "racking a shell" a split second is all it takes to rack a shell. If time was that big of a factor and they're already prepared, they would have you before you can bring a long gun up to aim. Not having a shell in the chamber could be a safety factor for homes with children, plus it could also possibly keep you from being a victim by your own gun.
Your comment "go revolver: at 2AM half asleep, no safety to fumble with" really concerns me. How can a person justify aiming a weapon at another person if they themselves are half asleep? It could be your neighbour, your child or another innocent person and you would have trouble discerning when you are half asleep.
@@richardkoch8752 All good points, especially aiming for center of mass rather than to incapacitate. I would suggest terminology more in the line of "shoot to eliminate the threat" rather than "shoot to kill" It's the same physical action, but the mindset of stopping the threat vs. killing a person could be the difference between serving years or walking free in the aftermath. Just ask Kyle Rittenhouse!
Not everyone should own a gun. I know a handful of people who have a heightened sense of suspicion and are chronically anxious and I don't want them shooting me if they think I'm an intruder when I'm just bringing them their misdelivered mail. Years ago the guy in the house across the street shot his step-daughter when she came home late. Luckily he was a bad shot. It just shattered her femur. I think she healed up just fine after a month in the hospital.
Very good show! John we need more people like you! No one is going to protect you or your family but you! We have rights to defend ourselves! NRA has courses for everyone! If you don’t want guns fine that is your right! Don’t mess with my rights! I have CWP as well and will continue to have and my wife has my back as well!
Good Video. Glad to hear that many RVer's Carry. I've always wondered who next to me is ready. Guys I have USCCA and I am always on their UA-cam channel learning. Mercedes my wife also has her LTC and the more she goes and shoots at the Range the more comfortable she gets. Stay safe guys.
Amen! Judged by 12 , not carried by 6!
I learned that as a kid!
Also daddy taught me:
“If you outlaw guns, only the outlaws will have the guns.”
Thank you guys for discussing a serious topic & keeping it real in these times we are living in .
John you sound like me. Always carry and know your surroundings at all times.
When seconds count the Police are just minutes away.....you are your own first responder..........that is the reality
That may be true if you're in a campground but if you're boondocking alone the police aren't responding in quick time.
Our main line of defense for our RV is a very large can of bear repellent spray.
Extremely effective against animals/humans and is non-lethal.
Second line is a Taser, my point being shoot a round inside a campground you are nonstop only going to take out an attacker but probably one or two other RV’s as well.
Last line is a Taurus Judge which fires .410 birdshot which will not penetrate another Coach.
Safe travels, USMC Retired
Orlando, FL
As always-you guys bring the goods-EVERY VIDEO 👍
Your authenticity transparency faith and love are so apparent
Mercedes, I had the same experience with my husband going to the shooting range the first time. Walked in and so much noise and became overwhelmed. Just walked out and told my now husband then boyfriend to enjoy himself. Never been inside a building shooting. Was always a farm. Will never go back to an indoor shooting range.
Knowing that there are so many RVers carrying makes me feel a lot better about joining the RV community. What percentage would you guess have a firearm with them?
I always have one on me when I'm on the road.
I'm a weekend warrior not a full timer and I always carry.
Percentage (?) I personally think at least 80%+ (I’m a NRA instructor which helps with my thoughts here)
We have been RVing since ‘93 and there are a whole more doing so with the crime rates everywhere.
We have NRA stickers on the camper & truck, we get 👍s all the time!!!
I'm a Canadian and a licensed firearms owner. Our license is Federal not Provincial (AKA State}.
Non Restricted firearms (Rifle, Shotgun) can be driven from coast to coast as long as its stored properly.
Restricted firearms ( Ar's, Pistols) Require an Authorization to transport from the GOV't before it can leave your house. Plus it can only be used at a Range. No one but police carry in Canada
So great on one side, Camping and travelling Canada wide anywhere hassle free while carrying in you car, boat, camper whatever.
But Extremely regulated on the other side.
Make sure John interrupts her with his differing opinion during her entire video! Can't wait😜
Thank you for the tip
Yes!❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you guys for bringing up the subject. 100% agree with John!
Amen Brother!!! Thank you Aaron👍
Dude... guys.. everyone knows that true RV security comes from watching Home Alone.. irons, glue, trip wires, marbles and swinging paint cans!!
😂😆😜 Love you Guys!
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Thanks for not being afraid
Our security measures are my (3) baseball ⚾ bats because I sleep by the door of our RV...... If you get passed me to the bedroom 😂 My husband has the guns!!✌️Good luck!!
#davesandersstepdaughter
Good topic. Retired LE and I believe it’s it’s better to have it and not need than to need it and not have it.
Thank you for your Service Tom 🇺🇸
I love you guys ! You are SO AUTHENTIC, rare these days. You are so very honest and open. refreshing. Also you 2 are SOOO different, it works but can be VERY intertaining.
Entertaining. I CAN spell
John is a hoot! Mercedes is your rock John. State to state the laws change if you are carrying or holding a firearm weapon, and live rounds. You really have to check out every travel route you take. This is beyond having the lockup of a weapon. State to state rules are so conflicting. I think weapons should be locked down, regardless of a concealed carry permit! And I agree with John that you should have the right to protect yourself with a weapon. I have not fired mine in over 50 years! But I believe we need to have those weapons locked and checked in our home or RV. And I agree with John to carry insurance to legally carry a weapon throughout your travels. Be safe my friends.
Given the brash, quick to get upset, I can tell which of these two shouldn't be carrying a fire arm.
😂🤣
I personally believe it's actually Both.
If you are asking Random people if they have firearms like John said he did.
It's just an Excuse to puff up his chest and Bragg that he owns some!
I see these types of firearm owners All the time Unfortunately 🤔😖🥴
Each state has a reciprocate with other states. USCCA has a great map of reciprocating states and what's allowed. If you your LTC/ CHL license on your home state, then this map will tell you what states you'll be allowed to carry in and which states have restrictions as well as which states require you to notify a police officer in the event of a traffic stop. Regardless, everyone who carries should be well versed, trained, and be
comfortable about having a firearm in their possession.
John You almost killed me 😳
I'm sitting here in Idaho drinking coffee watching videos.
And when you said you asked Other Random People in the Rv park if they had firearms.
I choked on my coffee and my wife thought I was going to die!!
What would ever possess you to even ask or share the fact that you have them with Strangers??🤔😖
That to me is like saying I have firearms in my Rv and by the way I'm the only one that you have to deal with while stealing them because my wife and children do not know how to shoot them.
Sorry 😞 But it's really confusing and scary to me for Anyone to do such a thing 🤔😟😭
Is there a reason you have 2 separate firearm insurance policies? Is there something that Law Shield covers that USCCA doesn’t (or vice versa)?
No, we purchased both as to compare them for our Members. We think Law Shield is the best value. It’s a lot less expensive. USCCA has a bunch of additional benefits but we never really had time to utilize them all. We do love USCCA app
@@RVOddCouple While all good, conscientious law-abiding firearm owners are well intentioned, having a comprehensive understanding of self defense laws across jurisdictions can be daunting. That coupled with politically motivated prosecuting district attorneys, confused juries and even Judges uneven handling of pre-trial and jury instructions can make the outcome of a trial questionable. And it goes on - consider the competency of your legal counsel (and motivation based on fee structure), what third-party witnesses thought they saw and their biases, your character, what we say at the scene of the crime when giving LEO our statement, losing defensive rights based on weapon used, licensing, etc.
USCCA drops you like a hot potato if you are in the wrong. Prepaid legal services should cover either way.
Always carry. Pump shotgun is a great tool and can go into some states that pistols can not. A bat, see what happens if you lose it in a struggle. AGREE!
Hello J & M. I have a CPL and don’t go anywhere unarmed unless we’re flying. Excellent advice and information. Thank you 🙏
Hey Gary :) Always welcome our Friend
Haha! Husbands should never "train" their wives on ANYTHING! It was true in the swing dancing community I belonged to.
So very true in our Home!
Careful carrying on native reservations! On most reservations it is strictly illegal unless you are on a tribe approved hunt. Remember, you adhere to TRIBAL LAW while there!
As an NRA instructor, I tell women all the time that women learn better from other women!
To be safe .place solor motion lights around camp so u can see well outside.have a loud hand held air horn.to scare them off.and super bright spot light to shine at em.i live in utah.and over the years camping once in awhile .i have someone messing with me..oh and chain up your toys .keep your camp things close to rv..keep on camping have fun
Everytime I leave the house.. Sunglasses, Gun, keys, purse! 🇺🇸
One thing a lot of people do NOT know is that in many states a bludgeon is more illegal than a firearm or blade ( knives ). A baseball bat, brass knuckles, black jack, and the like can be illegal to have in your possession, if it appears to be used as a weapon. And don't forget that those weapons require close contact. Something like 35 years ago, the city of Kennesaw, Ga. passed an ordinance that every homeowner must possess a firearm. Overnight their crime rate dropped drastically. I do not recall the numbers. And the law stands today. Great video, more people DO need to talk about this. I am a proponent that everyone should be trained by a professional as they do it all the time and are less likely to miss some nuance that the new shooter is doing wrong. Everyone can easily fall into some bad practices, so matter how experienced you are, let the pros train newbies.
Very informative. But I am like Mercedes, I just don’t like guns. But, I would fight to the death for everyone’s right to carry one. I hate to think where we would be right now if we didn’t have the 2nd amendment! We would be locked in our homes like the poor Aussie’s! We don’t ever want to lose that right!
Amen Lynn❤️❤️❤️🙏
Great information for those persons who have wondered or had questions. Having the two of you together really helped. USCAA is a great organization also
Proper firearm training:
Finger off the trigger.
A firearm is ALWAYS loaded.
Never point a firearm at anything you do not intend to destroy.
Done.
I say it in a different order but the exact same rules. You must violate these rules to hurt someone. So never violate ever.
@@brianmoore4299 Well, I wasn't really listing them as a priority sequence. Merely, that firearm training isn't rocket science and anyone who can't operate a firearm is incapable of operating a toilet.
I just set up claymores around my travel trailer when I go to bed 😁
Thank you guys for doing a video on this. I’ve been waiting for this from multiple channels but you guys did a great job of explaining options and even the insurance piece. Appreciate the insight.
Read the fine print on any firearm related coverage. It usually will only cover you if it is considered a justifiable use of lethal force. If not, you're on your own.
Guns are a large part of the reason I’m looking to get a camper. My son shoots for a Scholastic Clay Target Program (shotgun) team. He also competes in other leagues and the places where these comps are held are often rural areas with nearby (or even at the venue) campgrounds. Camping there is better than finding an AirBNB or whatever 20 miles away. So, gun storage is one of the criteria I judge campers by. Walk in pantry? Nice place for a gun safe! Large closet? Same thing! I do carry a handgun of course, have my Michigan CPL (lots of reciprocity) and securing that is a concern as well. I agree that if you can carry you should carry. Having competition guns and lots of ammo for comps is another reason to carry… it’s expensive equipment! My son’s competition gun, bought used, still cost more than my first five cars combined! And ammo… it’s very expensive and hard to find these days! It is a crime target, all the more reason to be prepared just in case. Great video!
John, you have good points, but,… Mercedes is also absolutely right. There are some people that do not need access to a firearm. Mercedes I admire you for learning how to shoot. John you’re a good husband for hiring someone to train your wife… ( you didn’t let your ego get the best of you ). I think you guys covered the topic pretty well.
Since after two tours USMC in 67-68-69...I still always carry my 1911 45 Cal..
Thank you
Man oh man - I bet you guys have some serious discussions! Lol! Gun safety - you can not ever relax around children! Great tips! Thanks for covering this topic.
You should have seen what we edited out Jana 😂🤣😂
@@RVOddCouple LMAO!!!
Great video on a difficult subject in these times, the way my wife and I look at it is we lock our doors not to protect us but to protect them. You're right to take the training, practice, and educate yourself on all the aspects of CCW.
Mercedes is the voice of reason. John is the voice of .... reality? LOL. I align with you John. Good video.
Mercedes is the voice of (although somewhat converted, I think?) liberalism. Although I dearly care about, and love watching her & John's videos, it's not hard to see what side her political views sway too.
@@frankdank7507 She seems to be a lot like my wife more an independent. Wants to look at it from both sides. Extreme’s on both sides. Married to her for over 46 years.
Always carry copy of Firearm owners protection act and follow the instructions for each state .
omg mercedes!....i love how you rib john and he's such a good sport about it "he thinks he's an octopus" 🙂 a little humor for a serious topic.
I didn't read all the comments so someone else may have listed this, but "hand gun law(DOT)us" is a great resource for traveling armed... I like it because you can easily print any pertinent information for your upcoming travels(No, I don't work there)
Wow! I was just pondering on bringing my shotgun being a solo. So afraid to not bring it. More afraid of being taken from my dog and cat if I run into an officer who is nasty. I figure storing in my basement of Class A compartments. Bringing it in and keeping my ammo close by when stopped, but only loading when a situation arises. Only as last resort. My son lost the argument for a long barrel rifle. Got a short 510 Mossberg. Short. 3 slug. And a nice loud CH,CH. IF YOU'RE CRAZED ENOUGH TO NOT RETREAT...WELL. I'll pray I never use it.
Bring it Kathryn and hope you never have to use it 🙏👍
I would just keep inside in a handy place. Be discreet with it.
Heck yeah, keep hid, keep it ready to use. I assume you hypothetically have a weapon 😉 Never tell anyone about it. Safety first!!! your safety
Shot is more likely to hit and disable anything down-range without penetrating your walls and injuring bystanders than slugs...
@@KennethLongcrier Depends on the type of shot. Buckshot can actually penetrate walls better than 5.56 rifle rounds in some cases!
It’s all due to physics. Dense spheres tend to lose little kinetic energy passing through walls, while 5.56 rounds tend to start tumbling as soon as they hit anything, sapping a lot of their kinetic energy. Spheres can’t tumble like that unless deformed. I wouldn’t want to be hit by either on the other side of a thin RV wall but the buckshot could be worse in this regard. Ballistic gel tests have shown this to be possible.
The moral of the story is be VERY careful what is behind your target even (perhaps especially) when using a shotgun. Over-penetration is always a possibility.
You should have built in where you can get your firearm quick an also if a cop checks they cant find it also get some kind of spray to use
A few observations:
If you have kids, they are capable of going to the range to shoot and see the destructive power of guns at around the age of six. (start with .22LR and use double ear protection for them - foam plugs, plus muffs) - This will let them learn that they are a tool, much like your skill-saw, or your drill, and can kill or hurt someone if they are used incorrectly. (When they are not familiar with them, is when kids are more likely to be hurt - kids are naturally curious.)
As for stashing guns in various locations, that can be a recipe for disaster. (for several reasons) - A better plan could be to keep all the firearms locked up except the one you have on your person. (which stays within arms reach if you are not dressed or in bed)
That is right - you should keep one on your person when inside your home, as well as when you go out. There are MANY home invasions every year. A home can be hardened to make it a little harder to gain entry. Most RV's can be breached with a simple screwdriver within seconds. You likely will not have time to retrieve a firearm once a break-in begins.
I agree with the sentiment to be sure you are staying within the laws, and also to get training. One other thing that should be done, is to establish your mindset in advance...That is, decide before you get a gun, under what circumstances you are mentally and emotionally prepared to use it. - Most parents would use one instinctively to protect their children or spouse. However, would you use one if someone were stealing your BBQ grill outside your RV, or was stealing your car from the driveway?
As I got older (and wiser?), I decided that I would not use one to protect my common possessions...I think a persons life is worth way more than a $400 lawnmower they are stealing from my garage. - For me, it boils down to my home....Anyone that breaches my walls that is not invited will find out what gun I have on my person, and what training level I have with it. When outside my home, it really boils down to protection of my family, then myself, then others around me if I can help without jeopardizing the my family.
Last thing, I also have a permit, even though my state just approved permit-less carry. (The permit is so I can carry in the other states that recognize it) As for travel, I only go to states (or through states) that allow the population to defend themselves. States like California, New York, etc that restricts firearms have nothing that I have to see in person....I will be content to visit those states virtually. (Not because I am scared to go there, but because I refuse to spend any of my dollars in these freedom restricting states.)
Evil walks among us every day.....You must ALWAYS be prepared to defend your loved ones. A lot of folks do not carry at home, and think they will have time to run grab a gun if someone breaks in....
Wolves travel in packs. Imagine your mental anguish if you are at home (or in your RV, etc) unarmed and unprepared, and the wolves breach your door before you can get to your firearm...They rape your wife in front of you and slice her throat and then rape that, they pour Drano down your kids throat for kicks, and make you watch as their life begins to fade away painfully, then they pistol whip you and leave you knocked out, to let you live with those memories. (all for a lousy $350 worth of stolen items) ...This is not fiction - I know the poor soul that had this very thing happen to them. If he had a gun on his person, it may not have prevented this savagery, but then again, it just might have.
His wife did not like guns, and would not LET him keep one at home. (Men, your #1 job is to protect and provide for your family. It has been this way since the start of time. Do not let your wife forbid you to fulfill your #1 job)
- I want at least the CHANCE to change the outcome of something like the above.
Always be ready and have the means to say "Not my family, Not Me, Not Today"
Thank you for sharing your thoughts
I agree. I was raised shooting from an early age, and my old man was STRICT on safety! We went back east from Oregon, to Wisconsin for a family reunion staying at my grandpa's house. They put me and my cousin in my uncles old bedroom he would use to come home and go hunting. My cousin was a city boy from Chicago that knew nothing about firearms. He started rummaging through drawers snooping. I told him it wasn't his stuff, and to stop it. He then opened the closet and said "Check this out!" pulling out a 12 gauge pump shotgun. I was sitting on the bed and told him he should leave it alone. He cycled the action, spun around toward me, leveled it at my chest, and pulled the trigger! I lost my shit! We ended up outside, where I ended up with him on the ground and me on top going "Christmas Story" on his face!(see the movie) When I told my dad what happened he agreed he deserved a beating, and I did not get in trouble. What was scary was that my uncle told me he usually stored it with shells in the tube. I must have had an angel looking out that day.
@@twowheelsdown2002 Wow - glad the story turned out that way!
My pops took me shooting and set up reaction targets. (soda cans/bottles, various fruits, ets)
He had me shoot various long guns (he never owned a handgun for some reason ?) at the targets so I could see the destructive force they could cause....I never mis-handled guns after that...
@@44Mag Same here. Some melons from our garden. "This is your head or someone else's head if you lapse in safety for just one second". Booom....Splaaaatt! He made sure I knew what could happen.
Good thoughts.
We taught our 4 kids (2 girls & 2 boys) to shoot….
1). I took a clear water jug, showed my kids how strong it is with a sharp knife vs the kid’s skin.
2) We filled the jug with water explaining how much their body is filled with water.
3) we add red food coloring , connect that with they blood color
4) We went to an out door range, and they shot the jug…. Taught them a lot about gun safety and the damage a bullet can do to a body.
Mercedes... your 1st shooting story was hilarious!
I had a teacher in school who told the class that having a gun in the house was a good idea, but never keep it loaded and keep the bullets separately. That way if you hear a noise and grab the gun then get to the bullets, you're awake enough to make sure you don't shot you spouse who got up to go to the bathroom. My son teaches firearms handling for a local CCW class. Rule #1, never tell anyone if you carry or not.
Yes to you need some way to know you are awake and aware. I used to sleep with something loaded under my pillow until one day I woke up with it in my hand, having taken it out in my sleep. Never again.
Your Rule #1 Is Absolutely 💯% correct 👏
That's why I was like 😲😳🤯 when John said he was asking random people about having them and letting them know he had them 🤔😖
As a retired LEO your information is very good about carrying. Can't wait for Mercedes' topic next week.
Thank you for your Service Walter🇺🇸
Thanks LEO for your service!
Paid professional training is the only way. That being said I don’t believe in permits for a Constitutional Right. Plus if I owned a firearm the government would know I have it and it’s none of their business. Keep safe
I live in GA, and no government entity has any record of what firearms I may or may have.
This was true for Mercedes
If you have a CCW they can guess you have a weapon
Concealed carry is a great Idea! We have had one experience where I believe having protection made a difference. We check carry laws every where we go and take care to dot the I's and cross the T's. Discretion is a wise practice. I've carried for so long I feel naked without it. My wife used to be terrified of guns and now she has concealed carry. Having backup is a good thing!
John, I think we need to be consistent in our beliefs which means it's my choice whether I want to own a firearm or not. I have no problem with people choosing either way. As a side note some woman in Philly pulled a gun on the cashier in Chipolte the other day because she could not get her order but Philly being what it is she still hasn't been caught.
I was going to say the same thing but I think you got it covered. You hear about thugs killing each other every day but you rarely hear about Aunt B pulling out her Dirty Harry cause she couldn’t get her order.
Agreed
And she used it ILLEGALLY!!!
Amen. I also have multiple weapons and always carry . It’s a great equalizer. The best advice is to practice, practice, practice
I forgot to add , I have a kimber pepper blaster II. After being sprayed with this, all you want is relief from it, very effective!
Not effective on everyone and there is always the risk of blowing back on yourself.
I was at an RC flyin a couple weekends ago and I carry. Since I am CCW I have to keep it concealed, but since I was on private property I first asked the proprietors of the flyin if they had any issues, and their response was they feel much safer with a licensed and trained armed person than not, so I was allowed to take my cover shirt off and carry with it exposed. Not one person objected to it, in fact a few brought up conversations about firearms and shooting. I believe the majority of people do feel safer if they are with someone who is licensed and trained today.
Mercedes is right, some people just don't have the confidence to carry, and the Intestinal Fortitude needed to pull the trigger in defense. For them a non lethal device is better suited. This was actually a very well stated subject, and glad you did it even though you didn't want to.
On the flip side, those who are braggerts and are allowed to open carry in some states, and walk around with their big guns exposed can make some people leery about being around them. When I carry, only the grip is exposed, and being an LC9s, there isn't very much of it to expose, so it is easy to conceal.
As a founding member of the ODD SQUAD, I am hoping that you will hold a Newbie Week sometime, maybe next Spring when we can come out, practice parking, find out more about the best gadgets and must-haves for our Newbie RV's, which I most likely will have by then, and how about getting a local HUNTER"S SAFETY COURSE instructor out to introduce those interested to firearms? I took the Missouri course with my kids many years ago and we didn't shoot as part of the course, but I kept the book. The information is good for everybody, whether you decide to carry or not. My sister carries a BYRNA, I would also be interested in knowing more about that as an option, maybe that would be an option for some people.
Anyway, Mercedes and John, if you line up a NEWBIE week, I will sign up for the whole week, participate, AND help out however I can!
Great ideas and yes we plan on it 👍😀
I teach an NRA course “Refuse to be a victim” (the course is mostly the 95% head knowledge you need to stay safe, can be fun free too.)
I would love to teach it as well John!
@@RVOddCouple See my message here?
@@arbonneladyTN email us rv odd couple at gmail dot com
I retired from the Marine Corps 25 years ago. I fought in Vietnam, Granada, Panama, and Desert Shield / Storm and I can still put 10 /10 in the black at 500 meters with iron sights. But I still recommend let the pros train newbies.
I was considering a trip up to the New England states to see the fall colors.
Then I had a thought, I'd have to leave my weapon at home instead of risking
being arrested and jailed for simply having it in my possession. NJ, NY, CT, RI
MA, VT, have some of the most outrageous laws for simple possession
You should never post things on the internet that you know nothing about. Vermont has constitutional carry for all residents and visitors as long as they are adults. You can open carry or conceal carry without a license. Many of thestates that you mentioned have very liberal gun laws.
Vermont? Last i knew Vermont was constitutional carry. What are the laws that are so bad in VT in regards to possession?
Being from MA we have some of the worst laws ever.... the states to my north are a lot better.
Any person 16 or older (although federal law requires the age to be 18) who can legally possess a firearm is allowed to carry openly or concealed. There is no distinction between resident or non-resident, both are allowed to carry without a permit in Vermont. Therefore, the state does not issue permits.
Excellent talk on a very touchy subject. I am a very staunch 2A supporter but I also agree that ANYONE who possesses a firearm should be trained.....trained....trained!
I am also a strong supporter of "less than lethal" forms of defense. There are several very good pepper gas launchers (Life Lite, Byrna, etc.) available out there and in most cases they don't require any license to carry. Electric stun guns are also very effective but they are 'in close' defensive weapons where the gas launchers work up to 60 feet.
In any event, stay safe out there.
John, you totally won my respect. “It’s called a shell...” 😂 Great video!
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Exactly. And if she is still confused about how ammunition works in a firearm and Exactly how the firearm operates she still needs a lot of firearm Education. 👍
I have many and None of them are designed to throw the empty case At You while operating them!! 😲
"ASP"( active self protection ) channel....very good.....hot sauce is good..
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Yes, yes, yes!!!
I am a senior citizen from Arizona, an open carry state. I carry and always have, have my concealed carry, and have NEVER camped without at least one firearm. Never needed it except for rattlesnakes and a rabid fox, but I am a firm believer in having one. I do agree you need training, need range time, AND if you are not comfortable carrying one, DO NOT carry. Worse thing you can do is misuse it, have it taken away from you, or worse, injure someone accidentally.
Most of those I camp with carry. We don’t carry openly in an established campground, but carry open if remote boondocking
We hear you but we rather take our chances on having a German Shepherd for safety measures.
best, Best, BEST! For God-fearing Christians who believe their Lord has a plan for them, John and Mercedes are ironically and hypocritically sooooo so fearful... as if they don't really "trust in the Lord" and that the Lord will have their back. That's one of the problems with belief and faith: you can tout it, preach it, override it or forget it however, whenever you like. They will smile and cheer "God rules!", but their actions and talk reveal their true feeling that ""Fear rules!" The irony that they're oblivious to is that promoting guns in more hands increases their probability of being a victim of gun violence... hahaha... increasing their justification for owning and carrying guns. Onward Christian SOLDIERS, indeed!
Sorry for the tirade on your kind comment. German Shepherds are the BEST! It's just that the hypocrisy of Bible-quoting-toting, God-has-a-plan-for-us Christians drives me NUTS!, and it's why this country is the laughingstock of the world.
Guns are just fun. Not just a weapon or a tool. It's a great hobby and skill to develop. I've got a nice range right off my back porch and have shot competitively for years.
Your RV is a Home, you have every right to defend that home regardless of the State your visiting. There are local laws, and there are Constitutional Rights, get to memorize them (Your Rights) and understand the difference between a Police Officer and a Sheriff's Deputy.
Regarding the firearm you choose for your primary defense weapon, keep in mind the ammunition you use and know it's ability to penetrate walls, once that projectile penetrates your walls and keeps on going, the odds are now against you. Shotgun slugs and buck shot will punch through almost anything, Use "Frangible" ammunition within the confines of your RV.
Great points! Thank you
Your RV is absolutely considered a vehicle in the eyes of the law and all the laws regarding this apply. You can't just say its your home and bypass all the gun-vehicle laws that exist...
Hi guys, I love love love you for doing this video.....I am a retired LEO I am still very proactive, I am a tactical hand gunner and used to teach those classes, I worked with TRU which is a (Tactical Response Unit) I am 70years of age and am a died in the wool sheep dog....great points were made by both of you on this video most people are afraid of the BANG when the gun goes off that seems to be their biggest fear.....most gun battles will happen within ten to four feet of you if you have to deploy your weapon.....hand guns are used to fight you way to your long gun.......one of the things they taught us in the academy was the phrase " My life was in eminent danger" !! This is a phrase you need to use if you are asked by any LEO why did you use your weapon? If you choose to carry a weapon you need to be resigned to the fact that you may have to use it and not to threaten or to wound someone ......so you need to discuss this with your family, priest, or your supreme being before making this decision, it is a heavy burden that you will have to carry if you decide to be an armed citizen......and you are right practice practice practice......I also have multiple hand guns shot guns and long rifles.... and I stay proficient with all of them. When we are in the RV I am only a few steps away from something for protection....I carry LE rounds in my shot gun as well as LE slugs nothing says get the heck out of here than racking a round in your shot gun if someones at your door of the RV and you suspect they are there to do you harm....I worked almost twenty years with Sheriff Joe Arpio in Arizona as an MCSO deputy, three years with Glendale PD doing various things even EOD five years in DC/ VA area as a contractor for DoD then three years reserve in a small Kansas town on the Oklahoma/Kansas border.....I can still shoot almost perfect scores on the range I am currently a member of a group called ZERT which are all retired LEO and Military along with civilians so once a month training on the range as well as medical training and comms training I have a Ham license as well as a GMRS license its all great fun with a purpose......Please more videos about this subject I started out training my daughter at a young age on gun safety etc..... she is now working with Homeland Security and thinks she can shoot better than her old dad LOL any way stay safe, more videos and God Bless you both.........Dave
Thank you for your Service and for taking the time to share your experience David.🇺🇸
Being a hunter i carry a Deer rifle a shot gun an i have a ccw from Missouri. So does my wife have a ccw.
Besides the video being very informative, it was funny. John tried to tell Mercedes what to do, and Mercedes refused to listen.
The right to bear arms - agree. Spoken like a true Yankee!
LOL Ted
Such an important topic! If you're going to carry...
- Do so legally
- Keep your firearms out of little hands
- Get trained and stay that way
- Research the rules and regs for every state you'll travel
- Understand "reciprocity" is only the beginning, there are many nuances ("duty to inform", mag capacity, etc)
- Seriously consider carry "insurance"
- Have the ability to properly store firearms and ammo for every state
Thanks for all you do and stay safe. 🙏
The 2nd amendment over rides state rules IN My humble opinion