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Love your content! I always learn something new about my favorite era in history. Congratulations on the Knights of the Cross project! That's really exciting!
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There is circumstances that indicate elenor of aquatain may have had an affair with both the prince of anitoch and the count of anjou , father of her second husband. Given the circumstances of the affair of the tour de ne in the 1300s . Adultery was not impossible
There are yet other reasons why medieval women were not adulterous. It is a pretty major reason and I found it sad and lacking that you didn't even touch on it frankly. I have seen it estimated in multiple places that a third or upwards of a third of all Medieval women died during pregnancy, childbirth, or shortly thereafter due to infections and the lack of washing hands. It was, back then, called "Childbirth Fever" in present day it is called Puerperal infection. In 2015 11.8 MILLION women contracted a puerperal infection of those 17,900 died from it. Giving birth was inherently dangerous and still is! You didn't even mention that fact. I hope that if you are going to write a script that you start exploring subjects from a slightly broader perspective. Women, having always been equal to men in terms of intelligence, were VERY well aware of the risks and dangers of childbirth, whether noble or common in Medieval times! It was doubtful there was much adultery at all, as it ended with being socially ostracized at best. At worst it was going to end in death!
@DeSPoTNemanjaS The first sentence is very true, but what's the second sentence supposed to mean? What is being discussed is personal beliefs and personal morality, not church teachings. I simply said that, because of this, I don't "see"many of the noble women behaving like this. As for the men . . . they were notorious for it.
And we all know there was never anyone whose piety was later misrepresented. Also, for anyone living in reality, check out the restrictive list of why these great noble women would/could not have an extramarital affair. Ha! These conditions are exactly the type of restrictions to make affairs even more forbidden, therefore more tempting. Or we can just pretend folks were just more pure and innocent back then than we are today. Ignorance is bliss!
Modern people struggle to see the medieval world through their eyes, its cultures and norms. Its no surprise as the majority of persons now are not religious and are highly promiscuous. Piety is not something that many people would aspire to unfortunately.
Ah yes the Vikings, the darlings of airhead surface level tv producers, they and the Spartans are so overused and the stories full of so much nonsense that just knowing that a series or movie includes them you can easily expect BS without knowing anything else.
@DeSPoTNemanjaS Maybe but of those times they are pretty much the only thing that has made it into popular culture, accompanied with the same mix of BS, half truths and ridiculous flourish.
I greatly appreciate how this channel consistently dispels the distorted perceptions and myths of medieval life, and provides a more accurate historical version of the same.
L. J. Perreira and completely loathing everyone that isn’t of her faith and nationality. Not even after they save her life, her kid’s life and the kingdom of her husband.
Google User which is fake as shows aim to make Vikings look great as if they saved the day all the time which is historically fake. Anglo Saxon wins hinged on themselves not fake Viking helper characters.
"She was at one point imprisoned in a tower by her husband, the king of England, Henry II, but not because she was unfaithful, but because she formented rebellion against him." This made me smile - surely formenting rebellion was the very definition of "unfaithful" in the medieval world!
Nope! She wasn't necessarily guilty of a capital crime...unless he wants to also charge his heirs...if she "merely" supported their rebellion. A queen committing adultery actually is treason of itself.
I think that people also underestimate how much of an influence the size and closeness of a community has on people. Communities were small by today's standards. You were not usually alone and you knew everyone. Everyone knew you. You did not travel all that often (if you could afford to travel at all). You or your family may have some tangible connection to everyone (blood, marriage, friendship, buyer/seller, etc). Villages, especially smaller ones, don't have a whole lot of rooms for secrets.
1. I love how objective this channel is on the midivil period. 2. I'm so excited to see your new show its going to be amazing to see a historically accurate story on the middle ages, I'm ready to see what you've created.
12:12 DUDE Congrats! That sounds great! Really looking forward to it. I've been following you from before your book came out way back when you totally decimated "Extra Credits" in their ahistorical hogwash. Nicely done!
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The dude who made "Vikings" has been very vocal about how he doesn't like the Christian side in his show and wanted to make the Vikings look like badasses. To that end, the show is filled with anti-Christian scenes and characters.
Strange, because several Vikings in the show, including the main character, show an interest in Christianity, several of the main characters are Christian, and there are plenty of examples of heroic Christian characters in the show.
@@tatumergo3931 That's true. The Natural Law basis of Christian morality was one big reason the Church was able to plant itself in every agrarian and familial-based culture throughout the world.
Alfred The Great was one of the best human beings in history. He gave Jesus a run for his money lol. I was so excited to see his portrayal in Vikings or Lost Kingdoms but... I should have realized Hollyweird doesn't do "Great human beings" even when GREAT is in the persons title lol. The British didn't hand "Great" to just anyone, its a testimony onto itself.
Ι mean even today people cheat less than we are told in movies and shows. It is that adulterous affairs -as moraly ambigoous as they really are to say the least- makes an interesting storytelling and fine neighbourhood gossip nowdays.
Well certainly. I think traditionalists are too harsh on people nowadays. Premarital affairs are and were common, but extramarital affairs have always been rare, for obvious reasons. Humans do typically not have the tendency to warrant or commit a betrayal of the extramarital sort.
There was an incident that it well recorded from the 14th century France known as the "Tour de Nesle Affair", in which, the daughters in law of the French King Phillip IV, were accused of adultery, punished with home arrest as a result.
The writing of the show seems to resemble one of those dirty romance novels with a shirtless nobleman on the cover. Kind of an exploitative form of titillating fiction for older woman,
History channel have some personal problem with Christians.. They're portrayals just doesn't look right. I.e. knightfall, vikings and 1 or 2 more shows.
Hi, I only swing by occasionally but conngrats on your writing gig. It is great to be able to something you are are passionate about, I hope it goes well.
There is one other weakness in the storyline about Alfred the Great's wife Ealswith having an affair in 'Vikings'. Her age. She was younger than Alfred, and at the time the Great Heathen Army started ravaging Mercia (the Kingdom of her birth) she would not have been more than about 10-12. Royal women having flings with 'sexy' Vikings are a common trope in that series, to be honest.
Hey man! I´m from Argentina, and really like your channel. An spanish author, Arturo Revete, wrote a novel called "Sidi". It tries to be a realistic take about El Cid, his story and his time.
Hola compatriota. Yo también soy un fan de este genio. No conocía a Arturo Reverte, pero estaría interesante leer su novela. Voy a ver si la consigo Espero verte en el próximo livestream del canal. Preparo el mate.
@@holyfreak8 Ahh mirá vos. De Alatriste solo conozco la peli, y en al recreación de la batalla de Rocroi, aunque corta, me pareció que hicieron algo que nunca nadie hizo en el cine: mostrar realmente la crudeza de un encuentro de piqueros, y avanzando en formación y no en carga desordenada. En fin, recomendaciones interesantes que tendré en cuenta.
Historically accurate-fancy that! If only the rest of the entertainment community was concerned with even being half accurate what an improvement that would be.
Interesting and often overlooked topic. I would love to hear your opinion on Ealhswith and Alfred in the "Last Kingdom" series. Alfred is portrayed as a piuos, rather sickly scolar-King who struggles to adjust as a military leader (with success) and Ealhswith as a pious and rightous woman, who is not very attractive and tries to make the marriage work. Likely not accurate to history, but closer to it than "Vikings".
Alfred was sickly throughout his life with some chronic illness. Please remember that while there is more information on the life of Alfred the Great than there is on any other Anglo-Saxon king, much of that information has to be taken with a grain of salt. We know very little for certain, and of his wife we know next to nothing.
Assuming every charge the participants of the Tour de Nesle affair faced was true, the whole situation shows the huge logistic hurdles the participants had to overcome to vainly try to keep things hidden, dozens had to be complicit which in the end is a huge liability and the consequences were quite grim specially for those of lower stations, adultery happened but if it was rampant this affair would had not been as shocking as it was back then; I think that in the mind of people that do not care about history (but consume this historical fiction) the pre-modern period is convuluted mess and things mix in a odd substance made of false stereotypes, half truths and caricature; true historical events like some lurid business in the Byzantine court, Tour de Nesle and much later stuff like the scandals of Henry VIII's court and among the nobility of the italian renaissance period are assumed to be the norm rather than exceptional cases.
Why did the Church and its saints focus more on the sin of Heresy, if Lust was such as epidemic as it's portrayed? Are we really going to say that monks who went without shoes to preach cared about money and power?
@@MaccaveliPL In noble houses, yes. But with peasants? I don't think we know too much about that. Who knows, maybe instead of arranging matrimonies from scratch, it could have happened that a woman liked a man, and the father of the woman only had to say yes or no. I give my consent, or not. And costumes in the middle ages varied a lot depending on the geography and the time period.
@@galenusv7831 we actually do. Marriages were arranged under the eye of families, lords and elders of village communities so the land can be managed properly.
In The Last Kingdom, Ealhswith was very pious and honored her religious beliefs very much. (And there were Vikings roaming around all over the place then.) In Knightfall, it perpetuated the idea that King Philip IV’s wife Joan was having an affair with Landry.
From what I have read physical love or adultery may not have happen but 'courtly love', looks stolen, poems written and small gesture's given was a thing. Therefore no religious or marital vows where broken. But there are many different forms of affair not all are physical.
He showed you a clip from "Vikings"? If I wanted to ask you a question about adultery in the Middle Ages, I would have showed you a clip from The Tudors (even though that's more Renaissance).
i've watched the entire series for entertainment purposes only. It IS good entertainment. Does anyone believe that Odin walked the Earth and Ragnar Lothbrook was his son? I know that I don't. The show IS moderately historical in that some of the characters are real, but they do look like mad bikers, at times!
The "courtly love" tradition was more of a literary genre than a reflection of actual romantic attachment. The whole premise of courtly love was that the lady was unattainable, and the lover suffered from unrequited emotions. If an aristocratic husband found out that his wife was engaging in inappropiate behavior and her servants did not report it, the servants and the wife would serious consequences.
Do they mean Judith the Kings daughter in law who gets with Althestan the Christian monk captured made slave who’s friends with Ragnar?? Or is this from a season of Vikings I haven’t seen yet??
How was a courtesan life in the middle ages? Did the Church incentive them at some way as some people claim nowdays? I saw in a video they citing this book: "medieval prostitution", Jacques Rossiaud. I don't know if it is reliable.
There, in the video, they say that a pope created the obligation of them to pay half their profits to the Church and that the Church financed public bath houses where they could offer their services.
It's not in the nature of women to carnally desire other men just because. Actually it is a litte bit, but not that much. It's way more prevalent and intense in the fallen nature of men to desire other women. The problem is that in today's world, they condition women (let's say artificially) to think they should be promiscuous and that's all "natural". When in reality they naturally want monogamous relationships. But the problem is that today they encourage women to have sex with a lot of men, and after that they are uber confused about what they want: their nature yearns for monogamy, but the ideas and vices the modern world instilled in them make them disoriented. The same happens with men, we are also made to be monogamous, but it's way more intense the desire of your flesh to be satisfied. A catholic believes that's because our nature is corrupted by original sin: we were good by nature because God made us and all that God made is good, but we have tendency to do bad things (because of original sin), that has to be corrected,. In summary we have our nature, but we also have our tendency to vices against our nature, that should be corrected, reorientated to our good original nature. And, as society and norms in the middle ages in Europe were catholic, then they would have believed what I have just said.
I like how people back project to time periods for example I read a article that people liked smaller breasts in Renaissance because they are in pictures. Maybe they showed those women because they didn't want a bunch of guys getting hot and bother.
I think they were more into bootys , yknow , small upper/ big lower rule, breastfeeding was the norm so it wasn't that exciting to see as they saw boobs all the time
You draw what you desire and your muses are those that are desired. Times have not changed in that regard But Raphael famously painted his lover. Near the end of her life she was painted with dimpling on her breast. This is now recognised as a sign of breast cancer. As such she is accepted as the earliest example of this type of cancer.
I like the Vikings tv show. I can look past some of its inaccuracies because it is a show. Do I really expect the creator to not take liberties? I agree on the clothing though. The clothing in season 1 looked kinda cheap. Way too much leather. However it's gotten better every season. Characters are wearing more textiles, the clothes are cut better, the colors are more vibrant. Now all that's left is to get Michael Hirst to get rid of those burgonets the Wessex soldiers wear.
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Love your content! I always learn something new about my favorite era in history. Congratulations on the Knights of the Cross project! That's really exciting!
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There is circumstances that indicate elenor of aquatain may have had an affair with both the prince of anitoch and the count of anjou , father of her second husband. Given the circumstances of the affair of the tour de ne in the 1300s . Adultery was not impossible
There are yet other reasons why medieval women were not adulterous. It is a pretty major reason and I found it sad and lacking that you didn't even touch on it frankly. I have seen it estimated in multiple places that a third or upwards of a third of all Medieval women died during pregnancy, childbirth, or shortly thereafter due to infections and the lack of washing hands. It was, back then, called "Childbirth Fever" in present day it is called Puerperal infection. In 2015 11.8 MILLION women contracted a puerperal infection of those 17,900 died from it. Giving birth was inherently dangerous and still is! You didn't even mention that fact. I hope that if you are going to write a script that you start exploring subjects from a slightly broader perspective. Women, having always been equal to men in terms of intelligence, were VERY well aware of the risks and dangers of childbirth, whether noble or common in Medieval times! It was doubtful there was much adultery at all, as it ended with being socially ostracized at best. At worst it was going to end in death!
It was the medieval noble women that were the greatest supporters of the Church. So I don't see this behavior being too widespread, or frequent.
@DeSPoTNemanjaS The first sentence is very true, but what's the second sentence supposed to mean? What is being discussed is personal beliefs and personal morality, not church teachings. I simply said that, because of this, I don't "see"many of the noble women behaving like this. As for the men . . . they were notorious for it.
@DeSPoTNemanjaS Oh! You mean like . . . you and me. Yeah, they were just sinful humans. Sucks, doesn't it? ;-)
And we all know there was never anyone whose piety was later misrepresented. Also, for anyone living in reality, check out the restrictive list of why these great noble women would/could not have an extramarital affair. Ha!
These conditions are exactly the type of restrictions to make affairs even more forbidden, therefore more tempting.
Or we can just pretend folks were just more pure and innocent back then than we are today.
Ignorance is bliss!
That doesn’t mean anything, nowadays religious girls are FREAKS!!!.
@@anthonyhargis6855 In the case of a christian, where do you think personal morality comes from, airhead? The Church.
Modern people struggle to see the medieval world through their eyes, its cultures and norms. Its no surprise as the majority of persons now are not religious and are highly promiscuous. Piety is not something that many people would aspire to unfortunately.
You can't expect people to be religious when religion is declining in West.
@@alexmag342 Where is Christianity declining?
What about the Bathorys? Or de Sad? Or even the Romanov ladies? Seems like they where getting it in!
@@stehfreejesseah7893 did you miss the medieval bit?
@@blugaledoh2669 everywhere. Most of Europe is irreligious or outright atheist. It’s sad
You’re right about Alfred but to the creators of Vikings he did two unforgivable crimes, he was a devout Catholic and he defeated the Norse
Cant wait to see how they're gonna massacre my boy over in assassins creed Valhalla
@@icecube1694 _"Look how they massacred my Lord"_
Ah yes the Vikings, the darlings of airhead surface level tv producers, they and the Spartans are so overused and the stories full of so much nonsense that just knowing that a series or movie includes them you can easily expect BS without knowing anything else.
I could t have said it better myself
@DeSPoTNemanjaS Maybe but of those times they are pretty much the only thing that has made it into popular culture, accompanied with the same mix of BS, half truths and ridiculous flourish.
I greatly appreciate how this channel consistently dispels the distorted perceptions and myths of medieval life, and provides a more accurate historical version of the same.
The show "The Last Kingdom" does a pretty good job of portraying Ealhswith as pious and completely supportive of her husband.
L. J. Perreira and completely loathing everyone that isn’t of her faith and nationality. Not even after they save her life, her kid’s life and the kingdom of her husband.
Can’t say same for daughter
Google User which is fake as shows aim to make Vikings look great as if they saved the day all the time which is historically fake. Anglo Saxon wins hinged on themselves not fake Viking helper characters.
@@GoogleUserOne which is perfectly plausible. And what does that have to do with anything?
@@anglishbookcraft1516 Anglos and Danes sometimes fought as allies in this era. It's not as clear cut as you think it is.
"She was at one point imprisoned in a tower by her husband, the king of England, Henry II, but not because she was unfaithful, but because she formented rebellion against him."
This made me smile - surely formenting rebellion was the very definition of "unfaithful" in the medieval world!
Fair enough! What I meant was that she wasn't unfaithful carnally, but she was certainly unfaithful politically.
Nope! She wasn't necessarily guilty of a capital crime...unless he wants to also charge his heirs...if she "merely" supported their rebellion. A queen committing adultery actually is treason of itself.
"And just to cut to the chase, the answer is NO." I don't know why that tickled me so much lol.
Don't watch Vikings. I tried, and it wasn't a fun experience.
Thw first few seasons were fun, after Ragnar died it just became monotonous.
Underrated comment
Its an insult to Norse, Christians and Muslims alike in how it portrays them
@@ianlilley2577 It's a postmodern fantasy of what they want the middle ages to be like
@@storymaker299 a much better show is the last kingdom
I think that people also underestimate how much of an influence the size and closeness of a community has on people. Communities were small by today's standards. You were not usually alone and you knew everyone. Everyone knew you. You did not travel all that often (if you could afford to travel at all). You or your family may have some tangible connection to everyone (blood, marriage, friendship, buyer/seller, etc). Villages, especially smaller ones, don't have a whole lot of rooms for secrets.
And husbands took justice with their own hands, no matter how high ranking you were, there was a pope beaten to death by an angry husband
I always envision when new travelers came to one of these communities they brought with them their skills which may have been new to that community.
1. I love how objective this channel is on the midivil period. 2. I'm so excited to see your new show its going to be amazing to see a historically accurate story on the middle ages, I'm ready to see what you've created.
You are doing God's work with these videos.
It's because GOD WILLS IT!
Last Kingdom was more accurate with her, they depicted her as a pious woman, as she was one
@Michelle That's a clever way to give some leeway.
@Michelle Wasn't _Vikings_ also based on Icelandic myths rather than actual accounts of Ragnar?
@@1685Violin A lot of shows and movies are "based on" but then when you watch it, it ends up being 1% of the "based on", and 99% fiction.
Congrats for the project! Sounds amazing!😊
It's going to be great! Thanks for the support.
Love all of your videos but I especially love those videos that deal with the mindset of the people of the middle of ages, keep em coming!
This video is the perfect explanation why Anne Boleyn could not have had five affairs in the 16th century.
Anne Boleyn's crime was not giving birth to a male heir.
True @@RealCrusadesHistory
Hollywood?
Well, as they say...
NEVER LET THE TRUTH GET IN THE WAY OF A GOOD STORY!
Congrats on the project!
Thank you! Cheers!
12:12 DUDE Congrats! That sounds great! Really looking forward to it. I've been following you from before your book came out way back when you totally decimated "Extra Credits" in their ahistorical hogwash. Nicely done!
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Thou maiden belonging to thy streets
"Thou belongeth to thy streets"
Man I'm excited to see what comes of Knights of the cross!
What’s that?
The dude who made "Vikings" has been very vocal about how he doesn't like the Christian side in his show and wanted to make the Vikings look like badasses. To that end, the show is filled with anti-Christian scenes and characters.
Strange, because several Vikings in the show, including the main character, show an interest in Christianity, several of the main characters are Christian, and there are plenty of examples of heroic Christian characters in the show.
@@Natsymir the only brave christian in the show is the bishop who rejects God and dies crying the name of a viking thot
@@tatumergo3931 Yeah, it's pretty much ahistorical nonsense all around, and likely to lead modern viewers astray in a variety of ways.
@@tatumergo3931 That's true. The Natural Law basis of Christian morality was one big reason the Church was able to plant itself in every agrarian and familial-based culture throughout the world.
YES!!!!!!!!! REAL CRUSADE PRODUCTION!!!!!!!!! PRAISE THE ALMIGHTY!!!!
Alfred The Great was one of the best human beings in history. He gave Jesus a run for his money lol. I was so excited to see his portrayal in Vikings or Lost Kingdoms but... I should have realized Hollyweird doesn't do "Great human beings" even when GREAT is in the persons title lol. The British didn't hand "Great" to just anyone, its a testimony onto itself.
Congratulations!!! You do great work !!!
Ι mean even today people cheat less than we are told in movies and shows. It is that adulterous affairs -as moraly ambigoous as they really are to say the least- makes an interesting storytelling and fine neighbourhood gossip nowdays.
Well certainly. I think traditionalists are too harsh on people nowadays. Premarital affairs are and were common, but extramarital affairs have always been rare, for obvious reasons. Humans do typically not have the tendency to warrant or commit a betrayal of the extramarital sort.
@@revanofkorriban1505 Depending on the country and survey, between 40 - 70% of married people are cheating. It's almost the norm, not the exception.
There was an incident that it well recorded from the 14th century France known as the "Tour de Nesle Affair", in which, the daughters in law of the French King Phillip IV, were accused of adultery, punished with home arrest as a result.
The writing of the show seems to resemble one of those dirty romance novels with a shirtless nobleman on the cover. Kind of an exploitative form of titillating fiction for older woman,
It was based on the Eddas....
Your misogyny and contempt for older people are on display, and they're pretty disgusting.
History channel have some personal problem with Christians.. They're portrayals just doesn't look right. I.e. knightfall, vikings and 1 or 2 more shows.
and with history
@@andoapata2216 Yeah.. They're history is more like "for entertainment purposes only"
@@mojomahojo8253 I guess we should be thankful they didn't have the sons of Ragnar inspired by ancient astronauts a la the annunaki ;)
Have you ever heard of Kingdom Come Deliverance? it's a pretty cool medieval RPG set in 1403 Bohemia.
That's an amazing game.
"God be with you Henry!"
Hi, I only swing by occasionally but conngrats on your writing gig. It is great to be able to something you are are passionate about, I hope it goes well.
There is one other weakness in the storyline about Alfred the Great's wife Ealswith having an affair in 'Vikings'. Her age. She was younger than Alfred, and at the time the Great Heathen Army started ravaging Mercia (the Kingdom of her birth) she would not have been more than about 10-12.
Royal women having flings with 'sexy' Vikings are a common trope in that series, to be honest.
Hey man! I´m from Argentina, and really like your channel. An spanish author, Arturo Revete, wrote a novel called "Sidi". It tries to be a realistic take about El Cid, his story and his time.
Hola compatriota. Yo también soy un fan de este genio.
No conocía a Arturo Reverte, pero estaría interesante leer su novela. Voy a ver si la consigo
Espero verte en el próximo livestream del canal. Preparo el mate.
@@galenusv7831 es el autor de las novelas de Alatriste. Este libro se llama "Sidi: un relato de frontera" se consigue a buen precio.
@@holyfreak8 Ahh mirá vos. De Alatriste solo conozco la peli, y en al recreación de la batalla de Rocroi, aunque corta, me pareció que hicieron algo que nunca nadie hizo en el cine: mostrar realmente la crudeza de un encuentro de piqueros, y avanzando en formación y no en carga desordenada. En fin, recomendaciones interesantes que tendré en cuenta.
@@galenusv7831 el problema de esa pelicula es que resume 4 libros y es una ensalada de argumentos.
Unlikely. He's also the author of the Alatriste series, and he portrays Spanish society in those books from his personal atheist and Communist POV.
"Cross between heavy metal and bikers" 😂 spot on!
Yep it's undeniable!
Thank you so much. This is so refreshing compared to all the other other junk out there.
Thank you for the video
Historically accurate-fancy that! If only the rest of the entertainment community was concerned with even being half accurate what an improvement that would be.
The most accurate crusade history in youtube....!!
Thanks for a great video!
Awesome! Congratulations on having a dream come to fruition! I will watch, can't wait.
Interesting and often overlooked topic. I would love to hear your opinion on Ealhswith and Alfred in the "Last Kingdom" series. Alfred is portrayed as a piuos, rather sickly scolar-King who struggles to adjust as a military leader (with success) and Ealhswith as a pious and rightous woman, who is not very attractive and tries to make the marriage work. Likely not accurate to history, but closer to it than "Vikings".
Alfred was sickly throughout his life with some chronic illness. Please remember that while there is more information on the life of Alfred the Great than there is on any other Anglo-Saxon king, much of that information has to be taken with a grain of salt. We know very little for certain, and of his wife we know next to nothing.
Assuming every charge the participants of the Tour de Nesle affair faced was true, the whole situation shows the huge logistic hurdles the participants had to overcome to vainly try to keep things hidden, dozens had to be complicit which in the end is a huge liability and the consequences were quite grim specially for those of lower stations, adultery happened but if it was rampant this affair would had not been as shocking as it was back then; I think that in the mind of people that do not care about history (but consume this historical fiction) the pre-modern period is convuluted mess and things mix in a odd substance made of false stereotypes, half truths and caricature; true historical events like some lurid business in the Byzantine court, Tour de Nesle and much later stuff like the scandals of Henry VIII's court and among the nobility of the italian renaissance period are assumed to be the norm rather than exceptional cases.
Why did the Church and its saints focus more on the sin of Heresy, if Lust was such as epidemic as it's portrayed? Are we really going to say that monks who went without shoes to preach cared about money and power?
Congratulations I think that is awesome I will certainly most definitely watch it
A woman living in her age I think it would be impossible.
Well not impossible, though very rare
@@zaidhernandez4601 No sorry just can't see it.
@@giauscaesar8047 it did happen though just not often
How common were arranged marriages in medieval society?
Almost exclusively.
@@MaccaveliPL In noble houses, yes. But with peasants? I don't think we know too much about that.
Who knows, maybe instead of arranging matrimonies from scratch, it could have happened that a woman liked a man, and the father of the woman only had to say yes or no. I give my consent, or not.
And costumes in the middle ages varied a lot depending on the geography and the time period.
@@galenusv7831 we actually do. Marriages were arranged under the eye of families, lords and elders of village communities so the land can be managed properly.
It's the rule if you had much property. Not just nobles but a wealthy tradesman. If you were poor, though, it was choice.
In The Last Kingdom, Ealhswith was very pious and honored her religious beliefs very much. (And there were Vikings roaming around all over the place then.) In Knightfall, it perpetuated the idea that King Philip IV’s wife Joan was having an affair with Landry.
Thank you!
Thanks for the info. You have really good arguments on the issue. Modern men should know about this.
From what I have read physical love or adultery may not have happen but 'courtly love', looks stolen, poems written and small gesture's given was a thing.
Therefore no religious or marital vows where broken. But there are many different forms of affair not all are physical.
Our ideas about this come primarily from poetry from the period. It's possible a lot of this really was just a product of a particular artistic style.
So agree about the Viking show. Ridiculous.
That’s awesome congrats!
What about prostitution? Was there prostitution in Europe during Middle Ages?
It is everywhere at nearly every time period. Though not always looked up upon it always was there.
He showed you a clip from "Vikings"? If I wanted to ask you a question about adultery in the Middle Ages, I would have showed you a clip from The Tudors (even though that's more Renaissance).
Very uncommon. In late fifteenth century Castile there is one example though; Juana of Avis, wife of Henry the fourth.
I'm pretty sure very few modern people have ever heard of Alfred. That makes him an easy target for script writers.
I've never seen any part of Vikings. I've heard it's a good fantasy show, but utterly ahistorical.
i've watched the entire series for entertainment purposes only. It IS good entertainment. Does anyone believe that Odin walked the Earth and Ragnar Lothbrook was his son? I know that I don't. The show IS moderately historical in that some of the characters are real, but they do look like mad bikers, at times!
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The "courtly love" tradition was more of a literary genre than a reflection of actual romantic attachment. The whole premise of courtly love was that the lady was unattainable, and the lover suffered from unrequited emotions. If an aristocratic husband found out that his wife was engaging in inappropiate behavior and her servants did not report it, the servants and the wife would serious consequences.
Yeah well the alien guy from the History Channel says that......
Do they mean Judith the Kings daughter in law who gets with Althestan the Christian monk captured made slave who’s friends with Ragnar??
Or is this from a season of Vikings I haven’t seen yet??
That was my question??
You never watched Vikings? You are loosing nothing, this show is ridiculous.
Could you please explain an illegitimate son to Richard1? It's news to this student of the middle ages.
His name was Philip of Cognac.
The women were attracted to the men with the biggest clubs...
What about the Pagans?
That would probably depend on the tribe. There wasn’t just one group of pagans they had different religions and beliefs.
The Vikings - about as relevant as professional wrestling...
Can you convince them to have a lute cover of Knights of the Cross as the opening theme?
Yes please. And we also need a cameo from our hero.
History’s Knightfall 1st episode starts with France’s queen having an affair with a Templar 🙈
Which is absurd.
How was a courtesan life in the middle ages? Did the Church incentive them at some way as some people claim nowdays? I saw in a video they citing this book: "medieval prostitution", Jacques Rossiaud. I don't know if it is reliable.
There, in the video, they say that a pope created the obligation of them to pay half their profits to the Church and that the Church financed public bath houses where they could offer their services.
Human nature hasn't changed since God put us here.
But society and norms have.
I think it has.
It certainly has
rapid evolution is a thing
And you know that how? Were you around when God put us here?
It's not in the nature of women to carnally desire other men just because. Actually it is a litte bit, but not that much. It's way more prevalent and intense in the fallen nature of men to desire other women.
The problem is that in today's world, they condition women (let's say artificially) to think they should be promiscuous and that's all "natural". When in reality they naturally want monogamous relationships. But the problem is that today they encourage women to have sex with a lot of men, and after that they are uber confused about what they want: their nature yearns for monogamy, but the ideas and vices the modern world instilled in them make them disoriented.
The same happens with men, we are also made to be monogamous, but it's way more intense the desire of your flesh to be satisfied. A catholic believes that's because our nature is corrupted by original sin: we were good by nature because God made us and all that God made is good, but we have tendency to do bad things (because of original sin), that has to be corrected,.
In summary we have our nature, but we also have our tendency to vices against our nature, that should be corrected, reorientated to our good original nature.
And, as society and norms in the middle ages in Europe were catholic, then they would have believed what I have just said.
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viking is so bad i can’t watch more than 1.111 minutes
I like how people back project to time periods for example I read a article that people liked smaller breasts in Renaissance because they are in pictures. Maybe they showed those women because they didn't want a bunch of guys getting hot and bother.
I think they were more into bootys , yknow , small upper/ big lower rule, breastfeeding was the norm so it wasn't that exciting to see as they saw boobs all the time
They liked perky boobs in a time before modern bras. Perky boobs in those circumstances were generally small.
You draw what you desire and your muses are those that are desired. Times have not changed in that regard
But Raphael famously painted his lover. Near the end of her life she was painted with dimpling on her breast. This is now recognised as a sign of breast cancer. As such she is accepted as the earliest example of this type of cancer.
If you watch Braveheart then you have a pretty good idea why Edward II’s wife cheated on him
Braveheart itself is a unhistorical movie
@The Canadian Crusader Hello my Maple Syrup-Eating friend!
Yeah, except that we know from history that she was about 7 years old at the time of William Wallace's rebellion. *slight* problem there.
I loved vikings ...but the show is not based in history but the poetic eddas/ the viking sagas....( fantasy stories from the middle ages)
I like the Vikings tv show. I can look past some of its inaccuracies because it is a show. Do I really expect the creator to not take liberties? I agree on the clothing though. The clothing in season 1 looked kinda cheap. Way too much leather. However it's gotten better every season. Characters are wearing more textiles, the clothes are cut better, the colors are more vibrant. Now all that's left is to get Michael Hirst to get rid of those burgonets the Wessex soldiers wear.
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