Why I changed my mind about KYMCO
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Can't understand why some people in the USA would be hating on automatic scooters when they own and drive several automatic transmission cars. lol even cvt cars
Human Nature IMO it’s about the macho motorcycle mindset. I’ve owned scooters and 600 Suzuki’s. I’ve learned one thing about the sport of motorcycling, ride what you want and don’t be swayed by idiotic opinions. Younger guys have trouble being their own man and want to go with the flow of the group.
Think its due to Motorcycles in the US being toys in the public mindset. A scooter isn't "Fun" or attractive compared to a Fireblade or a Harley, so people refuse to see past the first impression and find the utility and comfort something like this brings.
@Greg Myers ....."I want to see more big scooters on the highway" ... and Honda, with their DCT offerings, (to a lesser extent for commercial trucks, the Allison) an "old fashioned" gear trans, not a CVT, that shifts itself is proving most manual transmissions are obsolete.
There's nothing better than an automatic scooter, especially in city traffic! I love my little Honda PCX150 ... I wouldn't tour on it but nothing beats it in the city.
I think they’re cool. Guy I know on a GoldWing forum got a 400 Burgman for his wife, he thought the CVT was neat. Made a video showing us the operation of it
Last guy in the world to realize KYMCO makes good bikes.
loud and ignorant. typical American - like their actual Pres.... ^^
It's the lack of importers & dealer networks which let them down. In some countries they just can't be bothered.
...every one can by "expert", you just need to buy GoPro...
@@konstantinrheker4671 I knew Kymco made good engines 10 years ago when I had my Maliguti with it's Kymco engine, so pllbbbbbbffffff...🤣
This guys funny ... He doesn't know about KYMCO's and SCOOTERS... But then again he's an american.... BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SCOOTERS AND MOTORCYCLES... AND KYMCO's USED TO MAKE PARTS FOR HONDA... KYMCO HAS AN AWESOME SCOOTER LINE....
I lived in Taiwan from 1998 till 2007 and KYMCO was considered to be one of the top brands in the scooter world. Also remember Taiwan was actually a part of Japan for nearly 50 years and had a lot of influence on their culture and business environment. A lot of this shows in their motorcycle/scooter manufacturing.
I bet they wish now they were still part of Japan, now Japan is one of the worlds top economies and allied to every Western power. Especially now, with the war drums getting louder by the day...
i drove 40.000km on a 50ccm Kymco YUP here in Germany, the Scooter felt apart but someone picked it up and made him back good for sale. They are freaking reliable!!!
Yes, people told me all they did was oil change while they owned the scooter. I thought they were certainly exaggerating. No bike or car will be like that. Not even my Toyota. However, you really need to own one to believe that. I owned Kymco before. It’s really amazing.
I didnt realize that about Taiwan and Japan. Fascinating
@@MrJeremywarner 1895 to 1945.
China took over when Japan lost the war.
So here’s my story. I bought a brand new Kymco in 2009. It was 50cc. I loved it. $6 in fuel per week, commuting 50 km everyday. I put 8400 kms in the first and only year I owned it. I found myself longing for a clutch, and gears. So I saved $900 and went through a motorcycle training course. Then I sold my trusty Kymco, which didn’t give me a lick of trouble ever, and acquired a Honda CM450. Then a Honda CB750. Then a Honda GL1100 Goldwing. Then a Kawasaki GTR1000 Concours. Then a Suzuki B-King1300. Then a Honda F6C Valkyrie, and finally a Suzuki DR650. I now have 46000 on the DR, and am thinking about maybe a new Goldwing, perhaps a Honda VFR1200... who knows what my next bike will be. All thanks to a little Taiwanese 50cc scooter.
You shouldnt sell it, it will be grand papi of your bikes
I love the looks and style of the B-King and still want one today. What was it like to ride and own? I currently ride a well-modified 1st gen FZ1 (160rwhp) and a KTM 950sm.
@@j.thomas7128 I miss that bike, but also I don’t. It just had so much power that I could never legally use. And the gears were super tall; you could make 160 kph in first gear. When I first bought it, the sales person suggested that I just leave it in third all the time, and treat it like an automatic 😂. Anyway, I didn’t fit comfortably on it, and threw a lot of money at it in moto gp style rear-sets and a Corbin seat, in an attempt to get comfy on it. Eventually I traded it in for a dual sport.
@@caryd67 Thank you. Tall gears and more power than i would ever need are things i can live with. Hearing that it has enough torque to ride third gear all day is welcoming. The FZ1 was setup originally as an upright track bike that i could still street, but over time, it's evolved into a tourer with top bag and panniers and Im getting too old to ride Hooligan on the SM. Thanks for your advice! I'm starting my search for a B-King!
@@j.thomas7128 one final thing I remember is the tires, specially the rear tire: it’s a pretty wide rim compared to the Hayabusa, and tire choices are quite limited for the B-King. I was contemplating switching out the rear rim for a ‘busa rim which would offer far more tire options, but never did. Anyway I wish you excellent luck in your search, I feel like it’s a pretty rare bike nowadays ✌🏻👋🏻🇨🇦
Kymco is actually a really good scooter.
I have a little one to go to my work, a Agility 50 CC, with a Blue plate in Holland here, it means your not alowed to go faster then only 25 km per hour,., mine goes up to 60 km per hour, but mostly I do 30 km per hour,; 40 km with one liter petrol., so also cheap to drive.,., every 4000 km I go to the scootershop for a checkup and oilchange etc., already 23.000 km on it, . just a nice little scooter.
Don't know how abnormally "good" it is, but Suzuki is surely in close cahoots with them when it comes to scooter production. Which in my opinion, customer service and
product availability has become everything but "good".
baba duke ;
It absolutlely is. Got a Myroad 700i and had a Suzuki Burgman 650 before. The Suzuki is more expensive but not as good as the Kymco. Especially after i changed the serial cludge to Dr Pulley's sports cludge (named HIT cludge). It's real fun to cruise along German countryside highways.
They make some great 4 wheelers
Nothing wrong with KYMCOS. I worked with a delivery company that had a fleet of KYMCOS! I rode the wheels off those machines!👍
Its actually a good scoot! did you know BMW Scooters C-series engines are manufactured by Kymco. awesome!
I'm shoping for a scooter now and thats what i hear from dealers.
I think when a lot of people hear 'Taiwan' or that something is made in Taiwan they think sweatshops and they think of all the stories about poor production quality they heard about Chinese products. If that's you, I'd urge you to do some research on the country (or region of China, if you're Chinese). Taiwan has the 22nd highest GDP in the world, ahead of Sweden and Belgium, with a relatively small population of only 25 million people. Their industry focuses on high tech, with big companies you might recognize like HTC, ASUS, MSI and countless others. If they're going to be good at anything, they're going to be good at scooters - everyone in Taiwan rides a scooter, they love them.
I live in taiwan product of taiwan is great..i used kymco i love it so far
Fool man..idiot
Steve Higgins
Taiwanese riders are being raped by those oligopoly manufacturers while Kymco being the leader.
This is the reason why most Taiwanese riders hate Kymco so much.
@@irnagtx2366 that is just not true. Kymco sold over 565,000 scooters in 2019 because they are a good brand and a reliable product. In a total scooter fleet of 16 million in Taiwan for 1 company to sell 565,000 in one year indicates that the Taiwanese people trust Kymco. If you got a bad bike or a bad dealer you should fix that problem, not run around all over the internet bad mouthing the Kymco company as a whole.
Taiwan is an island off the coast of China, where the democratic Chinese went after mao took over. It ain’t no damn region I’m China, dawg. You 💯 all 🧢
I appreciate your sudden enlightenment; but do some research before your next review of a 55 year old company that built almost all of Honda's motorcycle engines through the 1980's.
KYMCO- Kwang Yang Motor Company, makes some of the most reliable bikes in the world. Have some respect and at the very least do your homework before you post such a closed minded opinion on a product that everyone interested in a scooter in the USA should seriously consider!
I have nothing to say to that guy but to say that he is a total imbecile.
Some of KYMCO's bikes are re-branded Lifan products from Mainland China. To assume that every KYMCO is going to be good because they made Honda's stuff ignores this.
They're about 50/50 across their product line when referring to their scoots built in Taiwan (the good ones) versus their scoots built in their Chinese facilities (not so good).
I think this guy is just being honest. In the United States, We just do not think of Kymco and other Chinese or Thai motor companies as up to par.
**Yeah...you're 'saying something' but that's not even close to 'entire picture' regarding Honda 'farming-out' SOME 'engine manufacturing' for Honda by 'Kymco'...like generators etc. UNDER HONDA'S DIRECT 'QUALITY CONTROL' requirements...and when that began 'slipping' and being 'covertly avoided' by the use of poor quality and assembly techniques...Honda brought 'home' it's motorcycle production where it belongs, IN JAPAN** **For instance, production of the 'GET-2' 50cc engine suffered from early failures by the use of a 'permanent-bearing' on one aspect of the bearing-journal...done to 'ease production and assembly costs' and that bearing failed miserably because of 'crud build-up and over-stress' and the impossibility of repairing it made many American buyers of the bikes and scooters produced mad as hell when they were told 'Replace the engine is the only answer' on engines with only several thousand miles on them! (this is normally enough miles to 'seat the engine well' on any Honda motorcycle, never mind 'wear it out!**' Honda 'learned their lessons' and brought bike production back to Japan where it belongs since 2008.
As a younger guy I love automatic scooters, two of my friends have the stereotypical manual 600cc motorcycles. I'm happy riding my auto 125.
First, you never check out your accessories after you start riding down the road. Not safe. Do it before you start riding, so you know what everything does (and if it actually works like it's intended to) Use your turn signals, so other drivers know your intentions. I don't understand why you give reviews about bikes when you ride worse than some beginners.
Ive toured and done 750 miles in one day on kymco scooter (xciting 500) Very reliable they make very good products.
Megascooter engines from Kymco are trusted by BMW in her own megascooters, and also as a range extender engine for the range extender electric vehicle version of the BMW i3 REX.
I live in Taiwan. Kymco is a legit company!
We've had a Kymco "People 150" in the family since 2007. Daughter used it for High School and College. Taught her boyfriend how to ride 2 wheels ( they're both Sportster riders now). Thing still runs and is waiting to start the next family member.
That's a beautiful generation tradition, if you wanna look it as that.
I'm hoping to get my first scooter(50cc)next year. I'd be the first rider in my family, as no one in my family rides motorcycles or scooters.
Kawasaki J300s are made by Kymco. Some Arctic Cat Atv models are actually made by Kymco. Kymco means quality. Their only downside is the name. Some might mistake it for Chinese crap. Big mistake. Kymco is Japanese quality at a cheaper price.
Kymco(Taiwan/China) and Japan are in cahoots. They just haven't officially revealed to the public ,they're sister companies as of yet.
This isn't a review. Can I suggest that you learn a little about the bikes you ride before passing judgement? You rarely seem to know what you're talking about.
+Scuba Steve Vlogs no way
Where does it say this is a review?
@@drnapalm7605
And what does the word "review" mean in your part of the world? Because YEAH,, his video's are not only reviews, they're also personal assessments.
He skims bible versus, however he definitely does REVIEW bikes.
*REVIEW: to examine or study again especially : to reexamine judicially. 3 : to look back on : take a retrospective view of review the past. 4a : to go over or examine critically or deliberately reviewed the results of the study.
I found out my Kawasaki 360 Praire ATV is built by Kymco and it's very good build guality. Very happy with it. Kymco also builds several engines for BMW motorcycles and others. Great company in my opinion.
I had a 08 xciting 500 and enjoyed it very much. super east maintenance, great handling, and all day comfort
Kymco is parly owned by Honda.
+3000 employes
+ 600,000 units produced per year.
It is realy professional.
I just got me a xtown 300i.
Super quality, super service by the dealer who is also rep for Honda and Indian, and the biggest mc dealer in Denmark.
I am happy I changed from motorbike to scooter for commuting.
I am 65y old and I prefere to call my scooter a "COMFORT BIKE"
Have a great day.
This is an actual review I was looking for, someone who has ridden across the country on big motorcycles and is now wanting to try it on a "scooter". Great review!
I have a 2012 kymco downtown 300i, I love it. Very reliable. Did extensive research, before purchasing.Happy with my decision
I bought it when it first came out in '11. $4600 OTD
@@M1Anut Still have mine, although I may try to sell it soon ☹️
I've rode several Kymco 4-wheelers & I was pretty impressed with quality, especially considering the price compared to similar Japanese big 4 bikes in the same class. They are more than competitively priced & generally better optioned & equipped than more established brands.
My wife owns a Kymco scooter and she really likes it. She can easily keep up with my bike on the interstate. They are not a new company, they were originally part of Honda but split from them in the early 1960's and started the Kwan Yang Motor COmpany, hence KYMCO. They not only continue to make engines for Honda, but other companies, including BMW! They make a couple of smaller bikes, similar to a Gromm or the Kawi 125, but are less expensive since they are manufactured in Taiwan. If you are into scooters, this would probably be a decent buy for you.
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Curtis Kennimer; huh?
Can you say what cc. It is that keeps up on the intereststate?
I learned to ride on a Kymco K-Pipe and over the years have graduated up to a Goldwing now. I still have my K-Pipe. Reliable and fun to ride, 90+ miles to the gallon. Kymco makes great stuff. And I recommend the K-Pipe for beginners. You'll outgrow it quick unless you're want something for around a small town or campus, but it made learning to ride and pass the exam so easy.
I have a Kymco people 50 and it goes 43 mph stock. Kymco has always made fantastic bikes.
kymco is not bad at all. Very well made and they last a long time. Here in Colombia they are really popular and take a beating really well
I had the same model here in Germany. If you change the CVT rollers for lighter sliders that thing is insane. Kymco makes the engines for the BMW 650 scooters.
I have a Kymco 160 cc and it goes anywhere. Drove down the highway like a boss. It's small, so I didn't like the highway experience, but it handled the speed purring like a kitten. gets about 70 miles to the gallon of gas, and I've been able to do all repairs. I would like a video on the front breaks though. It's also easy to get parts.
I bought myself a Kymco zing 125 last month and I was genuinly surprised it didn't suck.
Have had a Kymco ATV for 8 years,
Best one f the seven I have owned. Buying a new bigger one this Christmas.
In early 2008, KYMCO was chosen by BMW to supply the engines for their G450 X Enduro bike. The optional range extender in the BMW i3 is also supplied by Kymco. In late 2013, Kawasaki announced that their new J300 scooter is manufactured in partnership with Kymco. It is based on a Kymco Downtown 300i. © ctto
I like working on Kymco engines. Surprising quality for a scooter. Won’t be trading my Indian any time soon, but small engines are a joy to tinker with.
I loved my little 300cc Kymco ATV. Great engine.
Kymco and Sym are actually the largest scooter manufacturers in the world. Good quality products.
F there was a 15 Kymco 250 (i believe it was a 250) in the shop for some body repairs and the guy let me ride it being i do motorcycle repairs and custom paint and i tell ya that bike impressed me and how well it handles and cruises right along
Taiwan stuff is well built, my sym joyride 200 is a fantastic, had it 6years with nothing major failures to report.
I just bought a used 500 xciting Kymco. So far it’s pretty impressive. Road it home from the cycle shop, around 350 miles, and it rode great. Just hope I can get parts if it ever needs them.
I bought a Kymco Spade 150 used and have put around 2k miles on it in the past 9 months. It hasn't given me anything but reliable and fun riding. That being said, I totally agree with you on getting parts if and when needed. I like to buy consumables up front (like brake pads/shoes, gaskets for often serviced areas, ect...) and nobody aftermarket makes shoes yet. I've been waiting for months to get them along with a few other things from our local dealer and that is the only thing that would make me hesitant to buying another Kymco in the future. I hear it's easier to get parts for the scooters and quads though. I really hope Kymco USA can get their stuff together soon, because they make a great product but everything needs parts over time and makes a boat anchor if you can't repair it.
Bought my wife a kymco 500,she took the moto coarse on it. I bought a Suzuki, 800, wife would leave me all the time so I moved up to 1500, she still stayed with me but she cold go by a has station where I would have to stop. The kymco is safe, storage out the wazzoo. It's why we kept it instead of the motorcycle.
Kymco has been in business since 1954. Thay have made parts for Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki and BMW for years. I believe their scooters, motorcycyles, ATV's and side by side are just as high quality as their Japanese competitors, just a little different. The X-Road scooter is a 300I (276.cc) for five grand is a great deal. I'd like to have one.
I have a kymco agility 125 2015. It's a little runner. Got 13k on the clock. Regularly go on 100 mile round trip rides. Just runs beautifully
KYMCO is a portmanteau for Kwang Yang Motor Company.
I've been living in Taiwan for the past two years now... everybody and their grandmothers gets around on two wheels. Even dogs in Taiwan ride scooters!
When I arrived in Taipei, I picked up a 1995 Kymco Freeway 125 with 14,500km on the odometer (it only counts up to 99,999km). I rode all around Taiwan on it, and put 30,000km (18,641 miles) on it in two years. I had to replace plenty of things on it due to age, wear and tear, but it never once left me, my wife and dog stranded. We've even been over the Central Cross-Island Highway, which reaches a height of 3,200 meters (10,498 feet), six times.
On one occasion, we were riding through Taroko Gorge, which starts at sea level and runs 54 miles to the He Huan Shan area, which is over 10,000 feet. All the dudes riding cruisers or sports bikes gave me a thumbs up as they rode past me and my wife, who was holding our medium-sized dog in her lap. Even with passengers, a big camping backpack and two trunks stuffed with food, the Kymco Freeway held its own on that busy, narrow, winding road. When we got to the gas station, we definitely got more looks than the guys with expensive bikes... which goes to show you, it's not WHAT you ride, it's HOW you ride.
I finally had to give up Little Kymie this week. Age, riding fast and up one too many steep mountain roads finally took its toll. She was blowing plumes of blue smoke and burning up a quart of motor oil every five days, and I didn't feel like spending money at the mechanic when it could be better put towards a new bike.
After test riding a 150cc Sym, PGO Hotshot, and Kymco G5, I bought the Kymco for its superior handling and acceleration.
As always 'all the gear, all the time!'
Kmyco is number choice in Europe when it comes to scooter
Kymco quality isn’t bad. Nothing wrong with being made in Taiwan. The Grom is made in Thailand. The problem is finding parts and people to work on them when they do break.
Just a note, please don't take offense, but Thailand and Taiwan are very different places. There comparason should not be part of this conversation, we are talking about Taiwan and Taiwanese manufacturing quality. Rice isn't rice!
Jonathan Keese my point is that even “Japanese bikes” aren’t necessarily made in Japan
Jonathan Keese Kymco also makes parts for Honda so you COULD say that Hondas are made in Taiwan too. At least partially
A lot of taiwanese scooters use gy6 engines, not hard to find parts for. A lot of them are gy6 bikes and use the same chassis.
@@afn-bd2ro It actually depends on your area. In western states like Cali, there's a lot of parts you could find there(hey even in Seattle Wa. I found a couple of shops when I was touring) but unfortunately on the east or southern states, not so much. Went to visit my mom in Dallas and found none...nada.
I had a Kymco in Switzerland many years ago and it was ok or decent.
This guy always jumps on a bike for a in depth review and never knows anything about the bike. ' Don't know how many cylinders, don't know what that button is for, don't know the horsepower'. The funny thing is, he gets away with it and I always dig the video's... 😅
I started riding on a kymco super 9 50cc bout 20 years ago, great starter bike imo.
I had a Kymco in my early 20s. I loved it. You’re talking to someone who is literally AFRAID of motorcycles and bikes. I’m afraid to be on them, around them just no. But I bought the Kymco from my dad’s friend and rode it around the neighborhood until the tires got bad. I was making 8$ at the time and couldn’t afford to fix it. So my dad sold it. But I’m looking in to getting another to drive back and forth to work and school. I really did enjoy mine
I’ve been riding a kymco people 250cc for two years and absolutely love it.
thanks for the vid. Can the seat be customized enough to let a short rider / inseam ride the bike and flat foot at traffic lights?
I had a Yamaha 400cc Majesty and it was a great scooter! Lot's of power, storage space and protection from the elements. I only sold it because I didn't have time to ride anymore. There is a stigma in this country against scooters which is too bad.
I had a Majesty put 13k on it I should have never sold it now there over 8k new
Yeah. I'm surprised nobody in the comments made note of the guy in the Acura at the beginning, ribbing our host about his "moped."
The moment I saw you riding without gloves was the moment I realized exactly why you have never heard of Kymco... Because you don't do research.
I recently had my eye on a 700i just like that, but it sold before my indecisiveness wore off. Kymco no longer makes anything larger than a 400, so snag them while you can guys.
Billy Bailey kymco Ak550? It's a beast!
KYMCO still makes larger displacement bikes, they are just not exported to the USA.
Can't get kymco in Ireland which is a balls. I'm getting an Ak500 even if I have to drive it back from Taiwan!
taiwan quality is good really totally different if compare to china
I have a PGO 150cc scooter made in Taiwan, it has been an incredible reliable and quick little scooter. It has 26000 miles on it and still runs well with no issues. I would not hesitate to buy any scooters from Taiwan.
Kymco makes the engine that goes into BMW'S scooters. Lord bless you. Be safe. VAUGHN
My Kymco GT200i took over 50k kilometers of daily commuting, fun runs from southern Quebec into Vermont/upstate NY/New Hampshire, Saturday rides about Quebec, and one or two ventures onto gravel. Blew out a belt when I neglected the service interval. Ate a stator about 40km in. Survived until I decided to move up to a BV 350 and--after a winter in hibernation--wouldn't start up when I checked it before posting the Craigslist ad. Gave it to the first guy to call for "free to pick up".
For all I know, the guy rezzed it and it's tootling around somewhere still.
I am glad that kymco is coming to India with Electric and maxi scooters, thank God I l be able to make few more reviews.
Kymco scooters rock!! Well made, convenient, fun, cheap to buy and run. They make scooters for many bike makers including Peugeot Scooters in E.U. "nations".👍
i used to have a Kymco Gran dink 50cc scooter. I loved driving it, it was stable and usable. (not fast by any means... because scooter laws in NL kinda suck).
but the thing i like most that i wish my Piaggio Mp3 500 had from it: the mirrors. the mirrors on the Gran dink were located in a great place and offered so much visibility compared to what i have now. (and yes i drive the Mp3 500 because i have yet to get my motorcycle license (working on that atm though, had to wait till i was 24 to get to be able to drive on everything at once, this was available with a car license because laws)).
I’ve worked some in Taiwan and seen tens of thousands of Kymco products on the road. From my experience, the typical Taiwanese worker is well paid, diligent, and does quality work. Probably equal to Japanese build quality, if not quite the same design standards. If something by Kymco struck my fancy, I’d have no issue buying it.
KYMCO designs most of their scooters for wester markets in Italy, so I question your statement on design standards, as for model names, they are almost the worst.
@Jonnielights The model names are really dumb but at least the badges are easily removed so you don't have to look at them.
@@jakeryan9469 My 2009 Grandvista 250 would never have made it to my driveway if Kymco had not changed the name of the Grand Dink for the US market.
I had a 2012 Kymco Agility 50. That thing LASTED for 3 years and almost 30k miles before having a major mechanical failure. (the sprocket split)
and i have a 2004 kymco 50 dink classic , that i still drive without any major issues in all these years
In the UK,’bike’ riders don’t wave to scooter riders ! Even though the foot forward riding position is really comfortable ( in my opinion )
Kymco succesfully sells his scoots in Europe since the early 90's. Their overall quality is pretty same at Japanese Level and they sells like bread. Btw this particolar model, MyRoad 700, has been the biggest bust for Kymco ever, at least here in Italy. Is fucking humungous, with un balanced design and very heavy. Maybe you should try the late AK550 or the Xciting S 400. I've just purchased my second 300cc scooter by Kymco and they offer now 5 years warranty. If you are on a budget, with Kymco you don't go wrong.
Many bikers are ignorant about scooters.
KYMCO is on the Internet, FYI. 🤣
Kymco, 5th largest scooter manufacturer in the world. They make some really top notch machines. If you get the chance and want a value for money model with unbelivable handling try the xciting 400i or s. 42 degrees lean angle if you are brave enough
Kymco is top of the line!! I had their agility 125 scooter for over 10 years. Not one single problem never. Changed the oil every 5k miles thats it and I got it for under $2k new. It also cruzed at 65mph and I beat my friend on his zuma 125 every time. Forget honda, yamaha get a kymco.
Had a Burgman 400, Burgman 650 Executive and now a Honda Silverwing. I also have a VFR800. But for comfort and practicality the maxi-scooters rule.
I'm wanting to buy a maxi scooter for mostly city ..some highway. Of course something very little maintenance. What would you recommend ?
@@Johnwillbegone @John Depends on how tall you are, how much highway etc. The Burgmans are great, 400 is plenty in town and for some highway. The 650 is a great long distance highway ride. If you want sportier a Kymco or BMW 650 is good (Kymco makes the drivetrains for BMW). Silverwing's are all over 10 years old now. You can find a low mileage one for cheap I'll bet. Supposed to change drivebelts on all of these around 16,000 miles but I've never heard of anyone having a failure. Honda PCX150 is capable of doing a couple of highway exits but that's it.
Quick tip - Tour the controls and buttons BEFORE starting the ride. Please? :-)
Former owner of a kymco scooter back in the late 90s, the dink 180. It had a 2 stroke engine and was very reliable, up to the point it was stolen from my front yard. Imagine 20+ yrs later what they can build now. Don't trash Eastern companies, they work hard and produce cheap reliable machines, not dependent on certain myths to sustain sales like (cough-cough) HD.
Kymco i believe used to produce alot of suzuki parts amd there atv arent as bad as people think
I've got a 2007 KYMCO 125 and it's been a very reliable scooter. I ride it around East TN and it had never let me down. I use 93 octane gas and I change the oil every three months. I definitely would buy another one.
My old 600cc Honda Silverwing touring scooter had a very similar power band set up. Took 8 seconds to get to 60 MPH. But out on the Interstate accelerating from 65 MPH from behind a slow Semi to 90 MPH was effortless. And STILL had power to spare at 90! KYMCO builds A1 quality stuff. The repair history proves that. They had like 2 models in their history that were a bit glitchy, but *overall* they are VERY reliable. I don't own one, I don't sell them, and I am not paid by anyone to say that! LOL Just an honest observation from my last 5 years reading about, watching on YT, and talking to owners at the scooter rally's about KYMCO.
COYOTE ADVENTURES have the 2009 silver wing, great scoot. (Don't ride it much anymore, as my vstar 1100 is more funner) ;)
I can’t stand when people call scooters mopeds. They couldn’t be more different. Also makes it hard for me to find Moped parts and videos because scooter stuff comes up instead. Lol
Craig Campbell When i was more interested in scooter I wanted the size of the tires to indicate moped, but there is no motorcycling church to impose canon
Martin D I don’t understand your comment. It doesn’t make any sense but so you know moped stands for motor/pedal. To be considered a moped it must have pedals like a bicycle. A scooter by definition is simply a motorcycle with a step through frame.
Craig Campbell Thank you for your elucidation Brother Campbell.
Martin D you’re welcome.
They call scooters "mopads" here in South Arkansas. They also call beenie caps a "toboggan" here
From my research they make all BMW bikes that are under 800cc...same factory same equipment to build this and bmw...not bad imo
Why would you think Kymco is low quality? Taiwan is not China. And these days a lot of Chinese stuff is actually good quality, if you pay the cost for better materials and quality control. It's the the cheap budget junk that stinks. You get what you pay for.
Taiwan is China, the Republic of China ( they are the good guys). The People's Republic of China ( Communists, mortal enemies of free people).
Soldier, I give u 10 points. 10 outa 10. Ho of M’sia.
@@saxonsoldier67 the peoples republic of china is not communist
@@KamuiProductsInc Technically, you are correct. The PRC is only governed by Communists. Mao is so proud of the distinction.
@@saxonsoldier67 the government is far closer to the center than the left
They are very authoritarian though
Interesting from the point of view of "I don't know!"
We have been programed to think that anybody on a scooter is a wuss. I rented one in the Bahama's and it got up and went. To get you from one place to another ... what does it matter, as long as it does it.
Kymco, makes for Honda,Kawasaki,BMW and Ducati. i have a Kymco S8 150cc and at 15k KM, but my group mates, is a Kymco 125 ang a 2010 and until now he still riding it, also Kymco scooters are the only scooter we use to wade in the floods. for short, Kymco is very durable.
Just saw this video in my suggested feed. I know this video is pretty old and I haven't read through all the comments. So here's some additional info. Kymco made the engines for the BMW maxi scooters: C600 Sport, C600 GT, C650 Sport, and C650 GT. I happen to own a 2016 C650 Sport. I bought it used in 2020. It's been a great bike. No issues with the engine/trans. Lots of storage options, features, and is very comfortable one or two up. I'm actually looking to maybe adding another maxi scooter into my stable; either a used C650, new C400 GT, or a Kymco AK550. And I have a 04 ZX-10R and a 22 S1000RR to give some idea of my perspective.
I own and Kimco 250 Grand Vista. Beautiful bike. 11 years old,never had a problem with it in 17,000 miles .
Kymco stands for Kwang Yang Motor Company and yes, they did produce motorcycle parts for several big Japanese motorcycle companies for years. I’ve heard the reliability is good but have no firsthand experience.
i got a used kymco super 8 50cc 2t and it goes 45 mph with me on it (my weight 135lbs ish)
i was run off the road and fliped bike and all it still runs fine nuthing but cosmetic damage ( cracked plastic sides butesd lights and what not ) they are worth the money if you need transport to and from or for fun
Great video thanks. I also heard the name the first time here in Singapore, but the dealer seems very kind and thorough in his explanations and already telling me about "ride trips" they're having to Malaysia and so on.
It also seemed very comfortable at the shop, and hardly shakes when the passenger gets on.
I might just buy it although it's $20,000 in Singapore currently, in Singapore dollars.
Thanks man!
Don't be discouraged by all the "negative Nellie's out there . You're review was fine . I never thought you tried to pass yourself off as a Kymco expert. If you can glean something useful out of the negative comments and apply it to future videos so be ii, otherwise don't worry about their negativity .
Im still at 6:15 but that scooter has like a thing that wont let the scooter go full speed,Mine is 250cc It says i can go at 160 Km/h But i only reached 140km/h if i remove it it will reach max speed
Shaun,
Is it in the same park as Suzuki burgman?
A lot of the small displacement japanese bikes are actually made in Taiwan now. My Honda CB500F for example.
Hey bro... have you tried the brand SYM? If you ever get your hands on a SYM cruisym and do abit of review on it… that would be awesome..
That's another Excellent Brand from Taiwan !!
Had a like 200i for a couple of years and absolutely faultless.
Normal person: why is there a sticky note on the window? Me: waiting for the sticky note to fly in his face.
No gloves, boots or any protection, how do you expect people to take your opinion seriously ?
Hummm,
My husband is considering a Kymco and I want a Burgman
Kymco makes a good scooter but I have to go with the burgman of i had to choose. I had a 400 for a little over a year and might be picking up a 650 next week. If recommend a 400 of you're looking for something that can occasionally go on the freeway but mostly use it for around town commuting. My only gripe with the kymco is that is was barely not as comfortable as the burgman. Still a great little motor bike though
@@troyjones4271 I have 2 400 Burgmans.Made for Girls but it is a GREAT scooter! You will LOVE it!!!!!!!!!!!
I believe the only one more luxurious than a Burgman is the BMW 650.
@@amramjose .......Built by the Kwan Yang Motor Company=KYMCO, only the boxer engines are still built in Germany .
@@dwightdodd3734 Made for girls? Why? I guess you wouldn't think much of the Burgman 200 scooter. I'm 53, 5 foot 3, 115 lbs and all male but.. I can't handle a 400. You think I'm less than a girl? I guess I can't complain.. you own two of those girl bikes, I'm in good company.
KYMCO is a world class scooter manufacturer. I have the 300 and it runs like a champ. Taiwan manufacturing is light years ahead of mainland China, no comparison. Taiwan is the main producer of computer chips in the world. Excellent high-tech companies in Taiwan. Kymco has been making part for Honda and BMW for years. The engines for the BMW GS310, and C650s are made by Kymco.
No ones listening, they’re just waiting for the post it to fly off
finally someone who gets my videos
Well i guess i thought the same as well but did my research we have a kymco dealer in my. Town many people own them and their quality machines
You said that the Burgman you rode before this bike had a bit more punch to it at the start. Which Burgman was that? The one that comes to my mind is the 650 Exec, being it's at the top of Suzuki's scooter class but falls not that much under this bike's engine displacement.
I'd been looking for a better quality scooter than the Sym's (cough!!) Lance (cough!!!) Cabo 125 (puke!) I began riding before my upgrade to CB500F. Price was the deciding factor - at the time , the Burgman 400 was about $8,500.00 (with taxes, lic. fees, etc, maybe $10k) as apposed to my Honda which was a little over $6,300.00 (with taxes, lic. fees around $9k+) so I chose the more affordable of the two. The Burgman was a better sales product because of all the perks and features, highlighting the storage space it had by default as well as the freeway capability it possessed. A youtube guy was traveling interstate on his with a couple of added features. The CB500F is simply a commuter bike with less than moderate pick up on the lower end (and will definitely keep up and compete with traffic) rather than a sport bike. I think that's probably the reason it was left on the show room floor from early 2016 to mid 2017 when I purchased it, minus a grand or so from the sticker. It's done me just fine, perfect for my needs up til now. May trade the Honda for the Burgman 400 (or the 650 Exec if money is right)
Looks good... what's the price range
That's right, the Kymco brand as well as the Sym brand both made in Taiwan are the very best scooters you can get. It's no longer all about Honda for scooters. Unfortunately the Chinese engineered and built bikes continue to need more refinement. Not so with the Kymco as well as Sym built scooters.