Peter, I speak for all of us. I know you released this video today and it was awesome as usual. Now.......post the next one as soon as humanly possible lmao. We’re waiting patiently.
You are a wizard sir. I am no where near the amount of experience to fully appreciate and comprehend all that you do but I am indeed grateful that you do it and share with the rest of the world.
Peter, my Dad called that tool a flapper, He made one for deburing so i could help him make his racing frames 46 years ago as 12year old ....As a tool maker just love your detail. Tim
I see videos of folks putting in center holes and ripping material off. In my training a long time ago we would face the end and then use a dummy center hole against a live center and rough turn out part and then put in the real center. It is surprising how far a component can move when you remove the stressed material from it. You do beautiful work. I enjoy your attention to detail.
As usual, awesome video. I chase tenths 10 hrs a day, then come home and watch machining videos. I either love this stuff...or I have a serious problem.
Excellent engineering/design on that fixture! I do a lot of onesy's and twosy's that require complex fixtures for the 4th/5th. I can easily spend more time on fixtures and setup than running the actual part. Love your content and your style, keep the vids coming!
With these kind of mill cycles you can have the radial depth of cut (.018" in this case) correct but there is other settings that pertain to what you might call the first pass. In the pocketing cycle there are what they call open borders. In the case of the example in this video that would be the OD where the material is being cut away. What I did wrong was you would have a standoff amount for the open border. Ideally the same as the radius of the endmill you were using. This would make the first pass the correct depth. Than you might have a lead in move of say .050". This would give clearance on your rapid plunge moves away from the stock. With this Esprit software it caries over the last settings you had when you previously used that cycle. What happened was those settings were for a .500" diameter endmill I used before. So the stand off was only .250 instead of .3125 And the lead in move was enough not to have a collision with the stock. So (I know this is a long explanation) with those settings the radial depth of the first pass was .080". To deep at the feed and speed for the .625 endmill. But see because there were no collisions in the simulation and I didn't pay enough attention to that first pass radial depth in the real world it broke the tool. On my grinder there is a Graph being displayed during the simulation that shows the volume of material being ground away in relation to feed. This would be very handy to have the same kind of display on a machining software. So if there is a big spike in the graph you can (On the grinder) click with the mouse cursor on the Spike and it moves the simulation to that position. That way you can see the problem area and correct it. You see in a normal simulation on a cam software there is no indication of load. As long as you are feeding it assumes everything is OK. Wow that was a long explanation. Hope that make some scene.
Edge Precision thank you for the detail Peter. I don’t see why software couldn’t calculate (+ or - some) load with horsepower rating and material designation. Time to kick those Esprit guys for an update!!
We enjoy these videos from Peter, generally do not comment (thought to say hello) as we have not much to contribute. It is always amazing the ability of this Mazak machine. What the machine can and he shares really shows these two viewers what the machine can and does do but for us it is all with a good programmer behind it of course. You do great, we never comment but watch all of your videos so we just want you to know this Peter, thank you. Lance & Patrick. You had few ouch shots in this video, hope the camera enclosure has more days ahead for itself. 13:50 is for this parts finisher person.
Thanks you guys. Yes the camera case and Noga mag base survived and still function (with a few scars and dents) with a little rework. Lost the actuation knob off the noga in the chip conveyor. I will have to make a new one.
For volume of material, and depth of cut calculations the Blue Swarf tooling software does a great job. Mainly I use it to get the resonance of the machine and milling tool that allows you to make thin walls with really high depth of cuts. Typically used for wing rib machining. It's also very helpful to select a cutting speed and feed that will eliminate chatter.
Aligning those parts to re-bore them must have taken some time. Thanks for sharing this kind of information, you usually only get to learn these things by making the mistakes yourself.
Actually the fixture I made in a earlier video works very good. I was able to just mount the parts and rebore them without to much difficultly. It did take about a day to do it though. Rerunning the tool about two to three times on each part.
If this parts you are working on are not getting mankind to successfully settle on Mars, I really cannot imagine what deserves so much preparation. This is like preparing a chess mastermove and wait for the end result. This is really a treat. Amazing to say the least. I think I could sit the whole day at that Mazak looking and making questions until you got annoyed :-)
What do you do with your fixtures and templates you make for different parts you’ve done? Do you just have a giant storage area of previous fixtures and things?
Thank you for the reply. I really enjoy your channel and it’s strange to say a CNC metal working channel is now one of my favorites keep up the great content
I have always wondered, from watching your previous videos, what is the advertised repeatability, compared to what you can actually achieve on this thing?
Accuracy of things has a lot to do with how you go about doing things. Or to state it another way if you don’t pay attention to what your doing it doesn’t matter how accurate the machine is. That being said this machines repeatability is as at least as good as its resolution. (The encoders resolve to less than its minimum movement) But repeatability is different than absolute accuracy. To give you a idea. When running a boring head as in this video. I can change the boring heads setting .0002” on the diameter and see the difference in the cut. Now the machine moved away (as in this video) moved back. Bored and just took .0002” and no more out of the bore. The rotary axi resolve to .0001 degree.
@@EdgePrecision dang, pretty decent then. I have a background of around a decade in mostly large manual machining and some cnc lathe stuff, more low production numbers type thing, thats why I was wondering about the repeatability. I kinda figured the resolution was going to be right down there, being of a high quality brand name, but the repeatability on such a large amount of travel I would have thought to be a little bit off. But i guess it helps it probably has a closed loop encoder system ( I think thats what you call it) Thanks for the reply
This is an awesome series Peter. I use FeatureCAM and I'm pretty sure it gives the MMR when simulating, but I know it shows the HP used during sim and max HP of operation and I figure it gets that by calculating it with the MMR and material hardness, I use it all the time and really like that does that. I was wondering why you often prefer to use the hand deburring grinder rather than program a chamfer mill op? faster?
My CNC tool&cutter grinder shows a graph/load of the volume material being removed. At the bottom as the simulation is happening. This is very use full in letting me know if the feed or cut is to large. This graph on the grinder can be clicked (with the mouse cursor) on where there is a spike and the stimulation moves to shows the exact place the grinding wheels are at that spike. This type of thing would be very use full in milling and turning. in this case I would have seen a spike where I broke the endmill and corrected the program.
Have you checked out Sandvik's Prime turning tools? There's a bit of a learning curve with dialing in the slower feeds on the lead ins and lead outs. In Fusion they call it "back cutting". Pretty high MRR's. Make sure your part won't be pulled out of the chuck. But really nice for chip control.
I love how with cnc machining you can design anything, throw a big chunk of metal in a machine, and out comes the finished part with no operator needed. Every designer/engineer should be forced to watch this series.
No I haven’t tried GWShultz. I will have to look into that. I don’t use the Guhring endmills for general things. Just more demanding stuff. They cost about 30% more than other brands.
What is the reasoning behind making the pins diamond shaped? It is just so it goes together easier? Or is there another reason? Great video as always mate.
Pete I really like your videos, but can you tell us your cutting data? Like other UA-cam channels? I'm struggling with chip breaking and I only have the catalog data but is not working well I don't know why
Amazing stuff. Beautiful fixture. I was thinking that that there was quite amount of deburring on it. I would have went the extra effort of putting a chamfer tool for most of those edges. Particularly that back deburring at 13:36 . Looked like a little more than just a break edge. The tool you did the holes with, could work there would it not? Either way, great work. :)
Thanks Gredangeo. This amount of deburring only took about 15 minutes. For one part/fixture it would take longer than that to program and set up the tools to do it. Also with the machine you cant get everywhere and still would be left with some hand work anyway. So for me it just isn't worth it. It would look nifty on the video. I think that why you see it on many UA-cam videos. But in industry it really isn't done that much. It is more cost effective to have a deburr person/department do it than to tie up valuable machine time doing it at the machine. Because remember everything leaves a burr. So even the chamfering tool needs to be deburred before you ship the part.
Good stuff.... am i being selfish when i say i want waaayyyy more content from you? Lol.... you do good stuff my friend... i wish my integrex was this big... i run a 200ivst...
Do you program solely in Esprit? In school I learned Mastercam, and in my current shop I hardly do any programming but all this crazy millturn stuff is exciting me and I want to learn more. Thanks for the awesome videos!
@@EdgePrecision Hi Peter, I'm just about to purchase it, i've just invested in our own mills due to the complete lack of decent job shops in the UK. i've spent months researching and working with demo's and free trials etc, it been a toss up to either add nx cam to my seat of NX or go with Hypermill. It isnt perfect, the company is full of the usual idiots that really have no concept of real life BUT it is the most logical and by a country mile better at collision detection. you can literally tell it anything is a fixture, part and most importantly you can tell it what the spindle is, machine sheetmtal, guards, coolant pipes and even you camers if you model it and add it in. once you have told it how close you are willing to allow one object to come to another object it will never let it crash. obviously you can set levels of protection, you're excellent at your job so it would suit you well, not for the baby steps in cnc machining like i need but i imagine for like the endmill collision in the video, if you know its one of those dodgy processes, just turn on the max collision detection for that part of the cycle and it would of shown that. and not allow the contact You are fantastic to learn from and a pleasure to watch, DO NOT TRY AND BE MORE YOUTUBY OR A SOCIALMEDIAITE! What are you on instagram? Many thanks for your content.
Can you go over what you meant by setting your boring bar for the big live center hole? I ,m not sure how to go by that. I would just program it with computer comp so I don't understand why set x offset again.
@@EdgePrecision Oh ok, I'm still not sure how you did it at the control, because we have a tool pre-setter on our lathe. I understand how you set your z offset with the dowel pin.But I'm not understanding how you bored some of the hole, then measured it then that's how you got your offset.
This is the traditional way to set a diameter offset on a lathe. Turn a diameter than measure it without moving the tool in X. than tell the machine's control to calculate the offset by entering the distance from centerline (Half the diameter you measured). The Mazak has a function on it's control they call it teach for this (but that's what it does). Now on the Mazatrol control it always displays the actual location of the tool on the display, So you can verify you did it correct, Some machines don't have that capability (Without first calling the offset in MDI) so on the first run of that tool you have to be careful. In fact in a EIA (G code) program on the Mazatrol you don't have to call the offsets for any tools. Just change to that tool and run it. Milling tools don't need a G43 unless its a full 5 axis movement than you do need a G43.4 command. you do also need cutter comp commands like normal.
I know this is a joke. But so you will know. I am rotating the C axis with the hand jog wheel while rotating the tool holder with the indicator by hand.
@@EdgePrecision Ah manual! I was also considering the possibility that the machine could sync the two. , but I did notice a small bit of following error :-)
On a piece that weighed 2,000 pounds you turned it down to 220 pounds. You had to start with a big piece because of an end flange. So, here's the obvious question: why didn't you weld a flange on and then machine everything? Big savings on time and materials. Isn't it true that, done properly, the metal around a weld will break before the weld, right? So, help me out here. Was it just the customer being a purist and wanting a one piece part? Thanks! Love your videos and your work philosophy!
@@EdgePrecision Thanks! In your opinion, do you think it likely that it failed because of faulty welding or is it that monolithic construction is always the strongest way to go? Thanks :)
@@artmckay6704 I saw the failed part. It didn’t really appear to break because of a bad weld but it did break right next to it. So if it had bad post heat treat or the machine work not running true and causing a cyclic stress maybe.
@@EdgePrecision thank you! There's just soooo much that goes into making parts and, as you and many others have pointed out in various wordings, in the millionths region, everything becomes rubber and moves like the dickens. It all looks like it would be fun, though! Thanks again! :)
@@EdgePrecision Thanks for the information, I'm looking for new tools for mold finishing. I knew Ghuring for their very good forest. as usual very good video. from a French miller
@@Kri100fer I'm not sure what you are referring to. Is it the bluing I sprayed in the bore to see where the bare cut it? this is not to mark the material for type of material. Also I never mark material I use with colors the supplier does that. I don't know what part of the world you are in but there may be different standards in the USA from other countries. But as I say I don't mark the material.
Both the bore and the OD of the mandrel have about a .005 feed per. rev. on the finish. What you are hearing is the interference between those feed lines. The camera seems to pick up that sound more than you hear it.
I have a question for that handheld deburring tool you have, how many watts does it have? I want to buy a cheap chinese one, not spend too much money on it.
The power supply says 30 watts. But this power supply can run many different motors. So I don't know if that's what the one I have draws. Its a constant torque motor. So even at say 2000 rpm it has a lot of power.
The case it self is OK. A few dents but OK. What got damaged was the closing mechanism's knob and rod got bent. I had to take it apart and straighten it. Than reream its hole so it would turn again. The Noga mag base also go damaged. It no longer has its handle. It got torn off. I have to actuate it by turning the magnet with my fingers in its noch that the handle normally turns. But it still works. I will have to make a new handle for it. the chamfering tool is one I ground on my grinder.
I have had the case where I didn't have center drill of the correct size. So I resorted to doing it that way. So now I just always do it on this machine because it can. Also I usually have tools already set up in the machine that can do it this way. When you want a 30 degree center chamfer on a existing hole or bore this is the easy way to do it.
For a fixture it takes more time to set up the tool and program than it takes to do it by hand. (This deburring took less than 15 minutes. I challenge you to program and set up the tool in that time). Also cutting chamfers on the machine can't get everywhere or into sharp corners or close to vertical walls. So you are left with doing hand work anyway. Too me it isn't worth it just for one part/fixture. Also every tool leaves a burr. So even chamfering mill leaves them.
@@EdgePrecision ah ok thanks for the explanation! That totally makes sense for one offs. I'm not a machinist, just an engineer who loves machining and knowing more about the manufacturing side 😊. Your videos are awesome, keep up the great work.
Una nueva sería aproximadamente $ 900,000.00 a 1,200,000.00. Dependiendo de las opciones. Compré esta máquina usada para no pagar tanto. Era aproximadamente la mitad de eso.
I will get back to you with the exact model. It’s a klarus but I can’t remember the model. It has 3000 max lumens of brightness and a rechargeable power. It will also do different programs. One is a strobe light. If you shine that at someone they can’t look at it. They will have to back off or close their eyes or turn away.
@@EdgePrecision Yeah, I'm kind of a flashlight nut. I EDC an Emisar D4 which will do about 3000 lumens on turbo but I have an AstroLux S43s coming which I'm hoping won't overheat quite so quickly at full output. FWIW, I also recently got my hands on a Cree CXB3590 LED that'll do 17000 lumens at about 110watts. :D My C8F claims 3000 lumens and looks to be about the same size as your Klarus but I suspect it's closer to 2000 because of the driver.
Wouldn't you pic your chip load first then figure your math out for the number of flutes feed rate and rpm based on the cutter material and the material being cut? I mean basic geometry would show you what your depth of cut would be on 2 circles coming to gather. The graph is only to let you k how if you are going to crash the machine or tools. This wasn't a crash this was just bad math. Dont get me wrong shit happens we all know a decimal in the wrong place or forgotten can completely destroy a 100k machine
It's still amazing to me that a machine of that size can be so accurate.
Usually the bigger they are the more accurate, (more mass/rigidity)
@@sytherpka do you know what's the deal with epoxy granite bases?. Are they really that good?
How satisfying was it to put the fixtures pieces together and get that amazing fit? I'm in awe of your skill! Thanks for the great video.
This type of thing is always a concern. So when you slide it together and everything fits it is satisfying. Thanks!
@@EdgePrecision True Machine Porn
Very nice work Peter! Love you stuff. Building fixtures and set-ups like that are loads of fun.
Peter, I speak for all of us. I know you released this video today and it was awesome as usual.
Now.......post the next one as soon as humanly possible lmao.
We’re waiting patiently.
Worked in Machine shops for the last 19 years and these videos make me feel like a newbie. I can't get enough
You are a wizard sir. I am no where near the amount of experience to fully appreciate and comprehend all that you do but I am indeed grateful that you do it and share with the rest of the world.
Peter, my Dad called that tool a flapper, He made one for deburing so i could help him make his racing frames 46 years ago as 12year old ....As a tool maker just love your detail. Tim
Thanks Tim. It's a pretty common way to deburr in the shop. I just showed it in case someone hasn't seen it.
Thank YOU for bringing us along on this wonderfully detailed journey!
I see videos of folks putting in center holes and ripping material off. In my training a long time ago we would face the end and then use a dummy center hole against a live center and rough turn out part and then put in the real center. It is surprising how far a component can move when you remove the stressed material from it. You do beautiful work. I enjoy your attention to detail.
Thanks Don!
Peter you are amazing with machining jigs and fixtures for holding parts to machine . A real pleasure to watch!!
As usual, awesome video. I chase tenths 10 hrs a day, then come home and watch machining videos. I either love this stuff...or I have a serious problem.
SAME hahaha 😅 they should start an alcoholic anonymous for machinists Machinsts anonymous lol
Actually can see what is happening thru the coolant spray without much trouble since you are explaining the operation. Always interesting !
Really terrific, creative machining as always. Your videos are always fun to watch Peter!
Fine craftsmanship sir
.....Good job. I am myself a machine operator, mechanical engineer and toolmaker. I love this work. I'm from Germany, best regards from germany
i learn so much every time.
its invaluable that you share your work with us
Thank you
Excellent engineering/design on that fixture! I do a lot of onesy's and twosy's that require complex fixtures for the 4th/5th. I can easily spend more time on fixtures and setup than running the actual part. Love your content and your style, keep the vids coming!
I’m definitely enjoying the series
Hey Peter gotta love your skills, you make it look so easy. Beautiful work.
Yes! Another one. I think the “one a week” upload scheme is great. I find myself watching videos multiple times this way.
Beautiful work as usual.
So what doc did it try to take when it broke the end mill? That was a pretty long loc on that diameter anyway.
With these kind of mill cycles you can have the radial depth of cut (.018" in this case) correct but there is other settings that pertain to what you might call the first pass. In the pocketing cycle there are what they call open borders. In the case of the example in this video that would be the OD where the material is being cut away. What I did wrong was you would have a standoff amount for the open border. Ideally the same as the radius of the endmill you were using. This would make the first pass the correct depth. Than you might have a lead in move of say .050". This would give clearance on your rapid plunge moves away from the stock. With this Esprit software it caries over the last settings you had when you previously used that cycle. What happened was those settings were for a .500" diameter endmill I used before. So the stand off was only .250 instead of .3125 And the lead in move was enough not to have a collision with the stock. So (I know this is a long explanation) with those settings the radial depth of the first pass was .080". To deep at the feed and speed for the .625 endmill. But see because there were no collisions in the simulation and I didn't pay enough attention to that first pass radial depth in the real world it broke the tool. On my grinder there is a Graph being displayed during the simulation that shows the volume of material being ground away in relation to feed. This would be very handy to have the same kind of display on a machining software. So if there is a big spike in the graph you can (On the grinder) click with the mouse cursor on the Spike and it moves the simulation to that position. That way you can see the problem area and correct it. You see in a normal simulation on a cam software there is no indication of load. As long as you are feeding it assumes everything is OK. Wow that was a long explanation. Hope that make some scene.
It's a big ol' gold nugget, Peter. When something needs a long explanation, don't even hesitate.
Edge Precision thank you for the detail Peter. I don’t see why software couldn’t calculate (+ or - some) load with horsepower rating and material designation. Time to kick those Esprit guys for an update!!
Edge Precision and bcbloc02. You guys are the two most interesting machining related channel on UA-cam..
@@Cyrano99X There are a few more actually , but to me mr.Peter is on the Edge .
Looking forward to the next instalment. Keep up the good work
Amazing machine and workmanship! Love to see this stuff.
Nice video. I love producing parts that have a good fit. Very satisfying when complete.
Glad the case wasn't terminally injured in the making of this film😜(she looks quite robust for her size). That fit-up was silk. Cheers,ed.
beautiful !
Brilliant work
Hey Peter, great content.
You make some crazy ass parts man .
We enjoy these videos from Peter, generally do not comment (thought to say hello) as we have not much to contribute. It is always amazing the ability of this Mazak machine. What the machine can and he shares really shows these two viewers what the machine can and does do but for us it is all with a good programmer behind it of course. You do great, we never comment but watch all of your videos so we just want you to know this Peter, thank you. Lance & Patrick. You had few ouch shots in this video, hope the camera enclosure has more days ahead for itself. 13:50 is for this parts finisher person.
Thanks you guys. Yes the camera case and Noga mag base survived and still function (with a few scars and dents) with a little rework. Lost the actuation knob off the noga in the chip conveyor. I will have to make a new one.
Well engineered setups as always. Thanks
For volume of material, and depth of cut calculations the Blue Swarf tooling software does a great job. Mainly I use it to get the resonance of the machine and milling tool that allows you to make thin walls with really high depth of cuts. Typically used for wing rib machining. It's also very helpful to select a cutting speed and feed that will eliminate chatter.
It’s finally here!
Excellent as always.
At 16.00, that is precision unmatched.
Good job 👍 Thanks for the great video?
Like 600! Phenomenal detail! Thanks for the video.
What a complicated part! Nice man
Aligning those parts to re-bore them must have taken some time. Thanks for sharing this kind of information, you usually only get to learn these things by making the mistakes yourself.
Actually the fixture I made in a earlier video works very good. I was able to just mount the parts and rebore them without to much difficultly. It did take about a day to do it though. Rerunning the tool about two to three times on each part.
If this parts you are working on are not getting mankind to successfully settle on Mars, I really cannot imagine what deserves so much preparation. This is like preparing a chess mastermove and wait for the end result. This is really a treat. Amazing to say the least. I think I could sit the whole day at that Mazak looking and making questions until you got annoyed :-)
you have amazing skills. thanks.
What do you do with your fixtures and templates you make for different parts you’ve done? Do you just have a giant storage area of previous fixtures and things?
I have them. They don’t take as much space as you think.
Thank you for the reply. I really enjoy your channel and it’s strange to say a CNC metal working channel is now one of my favorites keep up the great content
I have always wondered, from watching your previous videos, what is the advertised repeatability, compared to what you can actually achieve on this thing?
Accuracy of things has a lot to do with how you go about doing things. Or to state it another way if you don’t pay attention to what your doing it doesn’t matter how accurate the machine is. That being said this machines repeatability is as at least as good as its resolution. (The encoders resolve to less than its minimum movement) But repeatability is different than absolute accuracy. To give you a idea. When running a boring head as in this video. I can change the boring heads setting .0002” on the diameter and see the difference in the cut. Now the machine moved away (as in this video) moved back. Bored and just took .0002” and no more out of the bore. The rotary axi resolve to .0001 degree.
@@EdgePrecision dang, pretty decent then. I have a background of around a decade in mostly large manual machining and some cnc lathe stuff, more low production numbers type thing, thats why I was wondering about the repeatability. I kinda figured the resolution was going to be right down there, being of a high quality brand name, but the repeatability on such a large amount of travel I would have thought to be a little bit off. But i guess it helps it probably has a closed loop encoder system ( I think thats what you call it)
Thanks for the reply
,,, yes, it is just amazing when you move so much and come back to get maybe 2 tenths !
Great videos! I run and program a similar machine. Mazak integrex i-200st. They are great machines!
Really like what you do,quite amazing.
This is an awesome series Peter. I use FeatureCAM and I'm pretty sure it gives the MMR when simulating, but I know it shows the HP used during sim and max HP of operation and I figure it gets that by calculating it with the MMR and material hardness, I use it all the time and really like that does that. I was wondering why you often prefer to use the hand deburring grinder rather than program a chamfer mill op? faster?
My CNC tool&cutter grinder shows a graph/load of the volume material being removed. At the bottom as the simulation is happening. This is very use full in letting me know if the feed or cut is to large. This graph on the grinder can be clicked (with the mouse cursor) on where there is a spike and the stimulation moves to shows the exact place the grinding wheels are at that spike. This type of thing would be very use full in milling and turning. in this case I would have seen a spike where I broke the endmill and corrected the program.
Nice Job!!
awesome video!!
Have you checked out Sandvik's Prime turning tools? There's a bit of a learning curve with dialing in the slower feeds on the lead ins and lead outs. In Fusion they call it "back cutting". Pretty high MRR's. Make sure your part won't be pulled out of the chuck. But really nice for chip control.
I have seen them in their catalogs. But I haven't used any yet.
At 14.00 surely it should be your last procedure on f55.. the stuff warps like crazy.
I love how with cnc machining you can design anything, throw a big chunk of metal in a machine, and out comes the finished part with no operator needed. Every designer/engineer should be forced to watch this series.
Hi Peter,
I love Ghuring end mills too. I like the GWShultz a little better, have you ever tried them?
Steve
No I haven’t tried GWShultz. I will have to look into that. I don’t use the Guhring endmills for general things. Just more demanding stuff. They cost about 30% more than other brands.
More ASAP please
Was that a Variable Helix End mill that broke? Sure cut nice when you had it dialed in. Thanks for sharing!
Yes its a Guhring Firex 5 flute endmill 5/8 Dia 2 1/4 cut length. In this video I am cutting a 2" cut depth with it.
Молодец! Как всегда всё чётко!
Спасибо!
thanks a lot big master..
Only perfect.
Hypnotic. As always, hypnotic.
What is the reasoning behind making the pins diamond shaped? It is just so it goes together easier? Or is there another reason? Great video as always mate.
The diamond pins allow a little breathing room on diameter variations of the hole locations.
What a cool job.
You may have mentioned it before but what is the name of the deburr grinder you use ?
It is a NSK Espert 500 go to this link. www.nsk-nakanishi.co.jp/industrial-eng/mgt/dw_pdf/espert500.pdf
Dear Peter, If it is not too much trouble, could you please put an indication of replay speed of videos?
I will keep that in mind. Thanks.
Could you tell me exactly what grinder you are using to deburr your part? I would like to purchase one
Go to this link. www.nsk-nakanishi.co.jp/industrial-eng/mgt/dw_pdf/espert500.pdf
Pete I really like your videos, but can you tell us your cutting data? Like other UA-cam channels? I'm struggling with chip breaking and I only have the catalog data but is not working well I don't know why
Thanks Ro Cuevas, I will keep that in mind for future videos.
...nemám slov, nádherná práce 👉 👍👍✊🙋
Thanks Josef!
Do u redraw the part in your cad cam software from a drawing or do you upload a 3D model and create your cam from that?
Up load a model from cad. Than program from that. Watch the previous video. In that video I show this in detail.
Amazing stuff. Beautiful fixture.
I was thinking that that there was quite amount of deburring on it. I would have went the extra effort of putting a chamfer tool for most of those edges. Particularly that back deburring at 13:36 . Looked like a little more than just a break edge. The tool you did the holes with, could work there would it not? Either way, great work. :)
Thanks Gredangeo. This amount of deburring only took about 15 minutes. For one part/fixture it would take longer than that to program and set up the tools to do it. Also with the machine you cant get everywhere and still would be left with some hand work anyway. So for me it just isn't worth it. It would look nifty on the video. I think that why you see it on many UA-cam videos. But in industry it really isn't done that much. It is more cost effective to have a deburr person/department do it than to tie up valuable machine time doing it at the machine. Because remember everything leaves a burr. So even the chamfering tool needs to be deburred before you ship the part.
Good stuff.... am i being selfish when i say i want waaayyyy more content from you? Lol.... you do good stuff my friend... i wish my integrex was this big... i run a 200ivst...
So cool
Do you program solely in Esprit? In school I learned Mastercam, and in my current shop I hardly do any programming but all this crazy millturn stuff is exciting me and I want to learn more. Thanks for the awesome videos!
Another great video. What was the size of that endmill that broke? You said speed was 1000 rpm, but I didn't catch the dia.
It was a .625 endmill with a 2.25 cut 5 flute.
hypermill does what you want Peter.
Do you use Hypermill? Their web site has very little information. No demo videos that I could find. just a short description.
@@EdgePrecision Hi Peter, I'm just about to purchase it, i've just invested in our own mills due to the complete lack of decent job shops in the UK.
i've spent months researching and working with demo's and free trials etc, it been a toss up to either add nx cam to my seat of NX or go with Hypermill.
It isnt perfect, the company is full of the usual idiots that really have no concept of real life BUT it is the most logical and by a country mile better at collision detection.
you can literally tell it anything is a fixture, part and most importantly you can tell it what the spindle is, machine sheetmtal, guards, coolant pipes and even you camers if you model it and add it in.
once you have told it how close you are willing to allow one object to come to another object it will never let it crash.
obviously you can set levels of protection, you're excellent at your job so it would suit you well, not for the baby steps in cnc machining like i need but i imagine for like the endmill collision in the video, if you know its one of those dodgy processes, just turn on the max collision detection for that part of the cycle and it would of shown that. and not allow the contact
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Can you go over what you meant by setting your boring bar for the big live center hole? I ,m not sure how to go by that. I would just program it with computer comp so I don't understand why set x offset again.
I was just touching of for setting the offsets in the control before running the tool. It was a new tool I didn't have the offsets set yet.
@@EdgePrecision Oh ok, I'm still not sure how you did it at the control, because we have a tool pre-setter on our lathe. I understand how you set your z offset with the dowel pin.But I'm not understanding how you bored some of the hole, then measured it then that's how you got your offset.
This is the traditional way to set a diameter offset on a lathe. Turn a diameter than measure it without moving the tool in X. than tell the machine's control to calculate the offset by entering the distance from centerline (Half the diameter you measured). The Mazak has a function on it's control they call it teach for this (but that's what it does). Now on the Mazatrol control it always displays the actual location of the tool on the display, So you can verify you did it correct, Some machines don't have that capability (Without first calling the offset in MDI) so on the first run of that tool you have to be careful. In fact in a EIA (G code) program on the Mazatrol you don't have to call the offsets for any tools. Just change to that tool and run it. Milling tools don't need a G43 unless its a full 5 axis movement than you do need a G43.4 command. you do also need cutter comp commands like normal.
@@EdgePrecision thank you for clearing that up, just learned something new.
Haha, that's cool @6:58 how the indicator tip has enough grip to rotate the piece in the chuck.
I know this is a joke. But so you will know. I am rotating the C axis with the hand jog wheel while rotating the tool holder with the indicator by hand.
@@EdgePrecision Ah manual! I was also considering the possibility that the machine could sync the two. , but I did notice a small bit of following error :-)
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On a piece that weighed 2,000 pounds you turned it down to 220 pounds. You had to start with a big piece because of an end flange.
So, here's the obvious question: why didn't you weld a flange on and then machine everything? Big savings on time and materials.
Isn't it true that, done properly, the metal around a weld will break before the weld, right?
So, help me out here. Was it just the customer being a purist and wanting a one piece part?
Thanks!
Love your videos and your work philosophy!
They did the first ones that way. They had a failure. So in order not to chance that again. They opted for one piece construction.
@@EdgePrecision Thanks!
In your opinion, do you think it likely that it failed because of faulty welding or is it that monolithic construction is always the strongest way to go?
Thanks :)
@@artmckay6704 I saw the failed part. It didn’t really appear to break because of a bad weld but it did break right next to it. So if it had bad post heat treat or the machine work not running true and causing a cyclic stress maybe.
@@EdgePrecision thank you! There's just soooo much that goes into making parts and, as you and many others have pointed out in various wordings, in the millionths region, everything becomes rubber and moves like the dickens.
It all looks like it would be fun, though!
Thanks again! :)
In 4:58 what is this for endmill?
Guhring .625 5 flute firex 2.25 cut.
@@EdgePrecision
Thanks for the information, I'm looking for new tools for mold finishing. I knew Ghuring for their very good forest.
as usual very good video. from a French miller
@@Kri100fer I'm not sure what you are referring to. Is it the bluing I sprayed in the bore to see where the bare cut it? this is not to mark the material for type of material. Also I never mark material I use with colors the supplier does that. I don't know what part of the world you are in but there may be different standards in the USA from other countries. But as I say I don't mark the material.
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13.31 what is the model of the deburing tool, looks awesome
Go to this link. www.nsk-nakanishi.co.jp/industrial-eng/mgt/dw_pdf/espert500.pdf
I like the way the test fit sounded, some grooves on the arbor ?
Both the bore and the OD of the mandrel have about a .005 feed per. rev. on the finish. What you are hearing is the interference between those feed lines. The camera seems to pick up that sound more than you hear it.
Edge Precision why not a mirror finish ;) thanks for another excellent video
I have a question for that handheld deburring tool you have, how many watts does it have? I want to buy a cheap chinese one, not spend too much money on it.
The power supply says 30 watts. But this power supply can run many different motors. So I don't know if that's what the one I have draws. Its a constant torque motor. So even at say 2000 rpm it has a lot of power.
thats the GOPRO case you made got crashed? need to make another? what brand is your backside chamfer tool?
8.40min dude...
The case it self is OK. A few dents but OK. What got damaged was the closing mechanism's knob and rod got bent. I had to take it apart and straighten it. Than reream its hole so it would turn again. The Noga mag base also go damaged. It no longer has its handle. It got torn off. I have to actuate it by turning the magnet with my fingers in its noch that the handle normally turns. But it still works. I will have to make a new handle for it. the chamfering tool is one I ground on my grinder.
oh if it was damaged there would have been case version #2
Peter, I was wondering what size (Model) Mazak Integrex that you have?
Its a e650H with a 120" between centers length and 80 tools Capto 8 milling tool taper.
How did you get to the thinking to use the end mill at 30 degrees to do you centres?
I have had the case where I didn't have center drill of the correct size. So I resorted to doing it that way. So now I just always do it on this machine because it can. Also I usually have tools already set up in the machine that can do it this way. When you want a 30 degree center chamfer on a existing hole or bore this is the easy way to do it.
Very pleasant voice, perhaps an apologetic tone.
Nice fit up at the end. Too bad about the camera taking a hit and that 5/8 end mill broke like I break 1/8 end mills, yikes!
Thanks Bill.
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Its a Abom t-shirt. I don't know if he has any more of this style. You would have to check with him.
Why do you manually deburr and break the edge as opposed to running a chamfer tool on the machine?
For a fixture it takes more time to set up the tool and program than it takes to do it by hand. (This deburring took less than 15 minutes. I challenge you to program and set up the tool in that time). Also cutting chamfers on the machine can't get everywhere or into sharp corners or close to vertical walls. So you are left with doing hand work anyway. Too me it isn't worth it just for one part/fixture. Also every tool leaves a burr. So even chamfering mill leaves them.
@@EdgePrecision ah ok thanks for the explanation! That totally makes sense for one offs. I'm not a machinist, just an engineer who loves machining and knowing more about the manufacturing side 😊. Your videos are awesome, keep up the great work.
Cuánto será el costo de una máquina así?
Una nueva sería aproximadamente $ 900,000.00 a 1,200,000.00. Dependiendo de las opciones. Compré esta máquina usada para no pagar tanto. Era aproximadamente la mitad de eso.
That duplex always distorts . I have had many a drama with duplex distortion. There must be a lot of stress in it or something.
~16:00 Damn, that's nice!
Figures that "dremel" would be made by NSK. Mind sharing what burr that was?
Also, what flashlight is that on the table around 16:10? It kind of looks like a C8F with better styling.
I will get back to you with the exact model. It’s a klarus but I can’t remember the model. It has 3000 max lumens of brightness and a rechargeable power. It will also do different programs. One is a strobe light. If you shine that at someone they can’t look at it. They will have to back off or close their eyes or turn away.
@@EdgePrecision Yeah, I'm kind of a flashlight nut. I EDC an Emisar D4 which will do about 3000 lumens on turbo but I have an AstroLux S43s coming which I'm hoping won't overheat quite so quickly at full output. FWIW, I also recently got my hands on a Cree CXB3590 LED that'll do 17000 lumens at about 110watts. :D My C8F claims 3000 lumens and looks to be about the same size as your Klarus but I suspect it's closer to 2000 because of the driver.
Its A Klarus XT11X X22UF11366
It's too bad the SFF PC in the control isn't powerful enough to run machine simulation software...
Excellent can make a video tohow setup this mazak machine step by setp ?
Thanks I will keep that in mind.
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Yes Indeed. Or are you talking about the Abom shirt?
Yes that was the first thing I noticed.
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Wouldn't you pic your chip load first then figure your math out for the number of flutes feed rate and rpm based on the cutter material and the material being cut? I mean basic geometry would show you what your depth of cut would be on 2 circles coming to gather. The graph is only to let you k how if you are going to crash the machine or tools. This wasn't a crash this was just bad math. Dont get me wrong shit happens we all know a decimal in the wrong place or forgotten can completely destroy a 100k machine
Found a response to someone that makes since those carries will get you some times
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how much price cutters,... pizdec!
If you are speaking about the Guhring endmill I broke in this video I think there around $140.00 each. I would have to check to get a exact price.
@@EdgePrecision We work at the plant on CNC machines we have a salary of $ 200 per month . See histograma gonzo_str .