The Coming of the Anti Arnold: Mike Mentzer 1976

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • From 1976, "Coverman Mike Mentzer on Contraction Control Training." A look at the article which first brought Mike Mentzer and his training ideas to the magazine audience. A very different approach from both his later writing and other magazine articles of the time. This video includes the Mentzer article, an article about Danny Padilla's training for comparison (or at least an article featuring Padilla's name and photos), and of course, the spectacular ADS from the magazine. With a cameo appearance by the Austrian Oak.
    Brought to you by Joint-Friendly Fitness a.co/d/gQwiFNB.
    Because if you're old enough to remember this magazine, you're old enough to take care of your joints;)

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  • @mikelevenson7271
    @mikelevenson7271 4 місяці тому +9

    I knew mike..he worked at the spartan gym in marlow hgts md when i joined in 74.. he had gotten out of the airforce and was resuming training for mr america.. he got me started and actually trained me on his new system.. at that time he was only doing 2 to 3 sets to failure, total body 3xtimes a week.. he grew so fast he had stretch marks on his forarms.. he was a beast..

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  4 місяці тому +2

      Great comment. Remember anything else from that time?

    • @mikelevenson7271
      @mikelevenson7271 4 місяці тому +7

      @@Joint-FriendlyFitness
      I have alot of good stories. As I gradually got to know him he discussed with me many times his workout theories and philosophies about life.. I saw him at a restaurant one day and he invited me over to his table.. I got what I would call a college level seminar on genetics, steriods and it's use in bodybuilding..He was highly intelligent and only about 22 at the time.. his theories were revolutionary and many of the guys at the gym thought he was half crazy.. I thought he was a genius

    • @ronaldmccutcheon1329
      @ronaldmccutcheon1329 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@mikelevenson7271
      Thank you, Mike! Big Mentzer fan since '81. There isn't a lot of information about Mike's early years. Please share more.

    • @mikelevenson7271
      @mikelevenson7271 3 місяці тому

      @@ronaldmccutcheon1329
      His routine at the time was a full-body each set till failure and beyond 3x timed a week.. of course i tried the same and it became apparent there was no way I could sustain it.. I would actually collapse when I got home, I actually became sick.. It was too much, being natty and not genetically gifted.. therefore I adjusted back to split routines and fared much better.. he also encouraged me not to take steriods as he only took them because he felt his genetic potential was such that he could compete at the top level..he was a really decent guy, no pretense. And of course as a kid I idolized him..

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  3 місяці тому

      That's an interesting observation. I'm planning pieces on his training articles 1977-1978, some of which branded "Fail-Safe," which preceded Heavy Duty.

  • @iancummings3150
    @iancummings3150 4 місяці тому +6

    This is awesome. Thank you. Sadly we were all held back and duped by muscle magazine’s bollocks.Thank God for the web.

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  4 місяці тому +2

      Keep watching. With 50 years hindsight the inconsistencies become obvious.

    • @ronaldmccutcheon1329
      @ronaldmccutcheon1329 3 місяці тому +1

      And yet, the average gym goers' physique was vastly superior in the 70s and 80s compared to today. Cell phones, junk food, and gimmicks rule gyms today.

  • @shawnm4189
    @shawnm4189 4 місяці тому +4

    Joe took credit for everything. I am surprised the interviewer did not ask him:
    "Mike, have you ever utilized the Weider Alternate Hand Jerking Off Principle?"
    🙄

  • @GTP2-zg9tn
    @GTP2-zg9tn 4 місяці тому +7

    Ah yes, I remember these Wacky Weider Muscle Builder magazine articles. And of course I use the BLAH, BLAH Weider principle for my massive Arms. And I use the BLAH, BLAH Weider principle for my amazing Leg development. And so on, he even shoe horned the B.S. Weider Principles into the Mentzer training methods. The best Weider Principle of all was MUSCLE CONFUSION!!!!

    • @ronaldmccutcheon1329
      @ronaldmccutcheon1329 3 місяці тому

      Weider even took credit for Pre Exhaust Training, which was invented by Robert Kennedy. I had the pleasure of speaking with the late Mr. Kennedy in 1990 and again in 1993.

  • @TigersStan
    @TigersStan 4 місяці тому +5

    Joe never missed an opportunity to self promote

  • @WithBACON
    @WithBACON 4 місяці тому +7

    Is it true that Mike Mentzer followed the Weider Chew & Swallow Principle while dieting for contests?

    • @shawnm4189
      @shawnm4189 4 місяці тому +2

      Well played! 😂

  • @ianwilson4841
    @ianwilson4841 3 місяці тому +1

    That was a great answer by Mike in regards ti biceps development. " I responded to 25 sets, and 5 sets, so why do more?" I myself only responded to high volume training, but your joints will pay the tab for it in your forties.

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  3 місяці тому +2

      if anyone was actually doing 25 sets, of which I'm becoming less and less convinced. That is=what Weider was publishing from the 60s on, but the magazines from the 50s had much more moderate routines.

    • @ianwilson4841
      @ianwilson4841 3 місяці тому +1

      I saw Steve Michalik do his ' 70 set' superset routine. Half way through it looked like an aerobics class with dumbbells. All that was missing wS the leotards

    • @ronaldmccutcheon1329
      @ronaldmccutcheon1329 3 місяці тому

      Amen! from a 60 year old with terrible joints and 4 muscle tears.

  • @arnoldprathap
    @arnoldprathap 4 місяці тому +1

    Yet on another brilliant video

  • @stevenspilly
    @stevenspilly 4 місяці тому +2

    When i forst started training in my teens (late 80s/early 90s), I kept burning out from using too much volume. Then I came across a HIT program in one of the magazines, think it was Flex. Heres what it was from memory:
    Full body workout, 3 days p/w, mon, wed, fri.
    Form: 4 second negative, 1 second pause, 2 second positive to failure. 2 min rest between sets. EDIT: 2 min rest between sets but move immediately to the 1st set of the next body part after completing the 2nd / final set. With the exception of Squats where 2 min rest.
    Workout:
    BB Squats - 2x 20 reps
    Widegrip Chinups - 2x 6-12 reps
    Flat bench - 2x 6-12
    Military BB Press - 2x 6-12 reps
    BB Curls - 2x 6-12 reps
    Dips - 2x 6-12 reps (weighted if necessary)
    Standing calf raises - 2x 15-20 reps
    Ab work: crunches or leg raises
    Soon as i switched to this program i got super sore and my progress exploded. But i kept being tempted to do more and if i increased to 3x sets i would soon hit the wall again. But i will say my imtensity was extremely high, i would go to legitimate failure.
    Workout took about 40 minutes. To this day i think its the best workout for nattys.
    Wish i could find the article. I must have read it a thousand times.

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  4 місяці тому +1

      That's exactly the kind of memory I appreciate.

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Joint-FriendlyFitness would you have any idea on how I could find the article in question? Are there digital archives of muscle & fitness and flex magazines? The irony is I don't think I'd be fit enough to even do this routine these days but I'd love to work up to it, be a nice challenge. But really I'd just love to find the article for nostalgic reasons!

    • @ronaldmccutcheon1329
      @ronaldmccutcheon1329 3 місяці тому

      ​@@stevenspilly
      I have 600-700 mags, but they only go back to 1979.

    • @stevenspilly
      @stevenspilly 3 місяці тому

      @ronaldmccutcheon1329 wow! I read the article in question in 1991 if my memory serves me correctly. But I live in Australia, and we were often behind by the time the mags arrived, so could have been published in 1989-1990.

  • @ryanpricelifts
    @ryanpricelifts 4 місяці тому +1

    A 535 lb/242 kg squat for a triple is impressive.
    I really enjoyed this my friend, keep it up!

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  4 місяці тому +1

      Plan to. BTW yes it's impressive, but keep in mind, there are some shall we say credibility issues with this kind of magazine.

  • @colonalklink14
    @colonalklink14 4 місяці тому +1

    Apparently high volume works.
    Steve Michalik did up to 100 sets per body part two or three days a week.
    He was big. Granted he was taking copious amounts of steroids.
    Even Surge Nubret did more than twice the amount of volume that Arnold Schwarzenegger did in his advanced training routine.
    I think for a young natural athlete the volume should be about 1/3 of Arnold Schwarzenegger's *basic training* routine.

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  4 місяці тому +3

      Thanks for the comment. What in this video prompted it? On steroids anything works. I seriously question any conclusions we came up with from the magazines, including the number of sets these guys allegedly did.

    • @colonalklink14
      @colonalklink14 4 місяці тому +2

      @@Joint-FriendlyFitness Just the typical Joe Weider bull crap.

    • @Joint-FriendlyFitness
      @Joint-FriendlyFitness  4 місяці тому +2

      Oh I agree with that

  • @MP-pz9oe
    @MP-pz9oe 3 місяці тому

    Arnold won and Mentzer bit the dust.

    • @Lonewolf__666
      @Lonewolf__666 3 місяці тому +3

      Arnold cheated and the Best walked away.

    • @Lonewolf__666
      @Lonewolf__666 3 місяці тому +1

      @Mantastic-ho3vm Your right, and your Fantastic, Mantastic.